Will You Survive... The Podcast
Immerse yourself in the world of cinema as we embark on a journey to equip you with the skills to tackle any disaster head-on. Through the lens of thrilling tales, particularly those of the zombie apocalypse, we'll unravel the secrets of preparedness. Join us as we explore the silver screen to empower you for the challenges that lie ahead.
Will You Survive... The Podcast
Will You Survive The Conjuring: The Devil Made Me Do It: Exorcisms, The Occultist, and Demonic Defenses
Exploring America's first case where demonic possession was used as a murder defense, we dive into the true story behind The Conjuring 3 and extract survival lessons that apply to any life-threatening situation.
• Teamwork and trust form the foundation of survival in crisis situations
• Staying calm under pressure helps maintain clear thinking when facing threats
• Knowledge is power - researching potential dangers before entering new environments
• Faith provides strength when confronting seemingly impossible challenges
• Courage means facing fears instead of running from them, even when terrified
• Multiple survival strategies from the Warren cases apply to everyday dangerous encounters
• Understanding your environment and being prepared increases survival chances dramatically
• Communication between team members is crucial when facing threats together
If you enjoyed this episode, make sure to check out our previous Conjuring movie breakdowns and let us know which survival horror film you'd like us to analyze next!
uh, minus one point for TJ. Hello, survivors, and welcome to another episode of Will you Survive, the Podcast. I guess, I kind of forgot the whole thing. I almost said the podcast, but TJ for talking through it, minus one point.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Alex, thank you for being quiet, plus one point.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:This is a podcast where we normally watch a movie.
Speaker 2:Is it?
Speaker 1:Usually about zombies or survival of some sort, and then we talk about said survival that we've talked about. There are no zombies in this one, minus one for talking again Crazy.
Speaker 2:This is a podcast Minus one point for talking. Again, crazy. Uh, this is a podcast minus one point for talking what the fuck am I?
Speaker 1:gonna do pantomime to the goddamn audience you can shut the fuck up while I'm talking. No, that's that.
Speaker 2:That was kind of the reason out with minus one point immediately bitch, I'm gonna be off the road this episode.
Speaker 1:We watched the Conjuring 3, the Devil Made Me Do it, and I'm joined here by my two co-hosts who also watched said movie. Alex, that's me wow. Nice introduction plus one point and TJ suck my big fat black cock wow, that's bringing race into it, minus one thank you for the tiny dinies.
Speaker 2:Josh, that's bringing race into it.
Speaker 1:Minus one, thank you for the tiny dinies, josh, that's two tiny dinies. I think I've lost him, see. What I don't think he's remembering is that the last episode we made a handshake deal and said handshake deal also had to do with the outcome of this episode.
Speaker 3:Oh. And he lost that handshake deal.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so this episode is a little predetermined well, no, I could pull up the thing right now. Me losing is not a part of the deal yeah, I think it was no, it's. If he brings it up, then he doesn't win the next episode. It's not if he doesn't bring it up. Tj loses the next episode.
Speaker 3:Previously on Will you Survive the Podcast.
Speaker 1:I think he's going to go more religious or not more religious, more survival on this one.
Speaker 2:Okay, if he does go religious, I win the next episode you host. Okay, handshake deal, okay, deal, okayshake deal, okay, deal, okay, handshake deal 3, 2, 1 Deal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but in order for him to not win this episode, he has to win this episode, so Well it's either guaranteed or it's not.
Speaker 2:That's what the fucking thing was.
Speaker 1:Well, we're seeing it play out right now, aren't we? So the Conjuring 3? Oh, yeah, also, oh, but I already introduced you guys, never mind, um, yeah, yeah, during three dog shit movie.
Speaker 2:Worst of the conjurings, that's my wow, okay.
Speaker 1:Well, that's fucking boring right away the little start of it was great boring the rest of the way really I don't think I'd be quite that harsh on it, but I, I also won't lie, it was not my favorite.
Speaker 3:No, I think Conjuring 2 was my favorite.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think the first one set a great tone. The second one like I don't know how to describe it it got more like Hollywood than the second one.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And then the third one was kind of just the same thing as the second one.
Speaker 3:So for anybody who might be living under a rock who hasn't seen this movie, you want me to read them out. The storyline Sure. Do that A chilling story of terror, murder and unknown evil that shocked even experienced real life paranormal investigators, ed and Lorraine Warren. One of the most sensational cases from their files. It starts with a fight for the soul of a young boy, then takes them beyond anything they've ever seen before to mark the first time in US history that a murder suspect would claim demonic possession as a defense.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow, plus one, alex. That was great. Great reading, woo. So this is actually based on a true case. If I know the details correctly, which I might not, he was ultimately charged with manslaughter right.
Speaker 2:Right. Convicted of manslaughter. Convicted of manslaughter yeah, like the end of the movie says.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's pretty good in my opinion.
Speaker 3:Yeah To go from. He got five years.
Speaker 1:What were they charging him with? Second degree murder?
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, pretty good, they didn't try to give him the death penalty pretty good to go down from that to, uh, to manslaughter. Now, from what I, from what I, I did some reading. I didn't actually read the ending, like the what happened. I did some reading on my own, um, from what I was reading, he, uh, there were reports that when he killed the was it a landlord. Yeah, yeah, when he killed the was it a landlord.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, when he killed the landlord, they described him as in a trance-like state and I think that really helped when it came to claiming demonic possession, that everyone was like it didn't look like him.
Speaker 3:It helped in the media. The judge ultimately ruled that it couldn't be used as a defense because it can't be scientifically proven. There's no expert who could take the stand and say, yes, he was. So he ended up um throwing out the defense, but clearly it still worked in the court of public opinion. Because I don't know, um I don't know if the prosecutors sought first degree manslaughter after he tried the defense and lost, or if that was just the the route that uh, like they tried the new wave of uh prosecution where they throw everything at the wall and see what sticks. So I don't know how it actually went down on the pleading papers if they tried him for murder, first degree, second degree, first degree manslaughter, uh, involuntary manslaughter, all all of the different things.
Speaker 1:Just see what what they can convict them of what? What stuck?
Speaker 3:So I don't know if that's the case, but that's kind of what it gives me the vibes, because the prosecution was trying to go for everything, it seemed.
Speaker 1:Any thoughts on that TJ.
Speaker 2:I mean, I did a little bit of reading on this case and it's, I feel, like I could have just went for the insanity plea if he was in a trance light state. You know, I think so. I instead of you know the devil made me do it, which is the kind of headline of this. Um, also shout out to uh arn johnson he's still alive. He's the same age as uh alex 57 damn.
Speaker 3:No, I'm not. 5700, yeah, 750, oh yeah 750.
Speaker 2:Oh, dicks, a timeless game. Rest in peace to his baby girl, because she died. They were together until 2021. She passed away.
Speaker 1:Oh, his girlfriend, yeah, his shoddy Okay. When you said that I thought you meant his daughter.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I think he has a daughter. Let's look it up.
Speaker 3:You said his baby girl, yeah, baby girl. So I looked it up while you guys were talking and, yes, the prosecution did charge him with murder, but they were only able to convict him of first degree manslaughter. So it did work in the court of public opinion getting him, uh, getting him sympathy with the jurors, and I think it did help in ways to get his story out there that he wasn't aware of what was going on and it also didn't, um, didn't hurt that him and, uh, his landlord, which was, um, actually alan bono, I think, was his real name.
Speaker 3:It was a different name um they, they were actually friends. It described them as being very close so it was really shocking and disturbing, absolutely killed him because, like everything that you saw in the movie which anybody who didn't see the movie it had some really creepy undertones, like the landlord was being overly grabby on Arnie Johnson's fiance, debbie, and that's kind of how they were playing it out, but in reality it was that's how they always were. They were always very goofy goofy together.
Speaker 1:They were always clowning around and so it was very weird for him to respond the way he did even in the in the movie it wasn't necessarily what the guy was doing because the guy was drunk, he was drunk off of his ass. But when arnie was losing his mind and was like going when he was being haunted for that first time and going crazy, um, his girlfriend was like dancing with the landlord. Like she wasn't like oh my god, get off me at first because she was like annoyed at first, but then she's like oh my god, that. It was kind of like that, like oh my God, my drunk uncle, kind of vibe Exactly.
Speaker 1:Like oh my God, this guy, he's funny. Like he's funny, he's just, he had too much, he doesn't mean any harm.
Speaker 3:What do you think of this? Because I kind of thought in the while I was watching it you just gave a different perspective, which is very viable. What about? Arnie is seeing it in the way that he's being annoying and grabby and but reality was she was fine with it, like, not even like.
Speaker 2:Oh god my but she was just like, oh my god, it was, was that he was seeing like the company, because they showed us a couple things they should right.
Speaker 3:They showed us a couple of times where, even when ed saw something that wasn't was it ed? I'm sorry, it might have been lorraine. Um, they saw something that wasn't real.
Speaker 2:It was somebody else yeah, like lorraine was stabbing somebody in the wood. Oh, yeah it wasn't actually happening.
Speaker 3:And then that, but wasn't, didn't she almost attack ed, like she thought ed was the, the demon?
Speaker 1:in the house. Yeah, yeah, no, I think he almost attacked her.
Speaker 3:He almost did, and it was her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, was that at the end? When he's smashing with the freaking hammer.
Speaker 3:Not yet.
Speaker 1:Not yet when they possessed Right before that, when he found the totem in his house in the flower pot.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Right before then.
Speaker 1:It was the big fucker, yes, from the morgue before then it was the the big, the big fucker, yes, that was chasing him, yeah, chasing him. And then he went to kill it and right before he did, um, it was lorraine, and then he like snapped out of it. And that's when he knew like oh no, she has something here yeah, she, she got me good.
Speaker 2:Good yeah, I. Uh, that's what I was really like. Witchcraft freaks me out.
Speaker 1:I like witchcraft shit, and I don't blame me um how much do you know about it?
Speaker 2:I just thought of another movie that I would want to watch on here. How much do I know about what? Witchcraft project, yeah, witchcraft in general yeah I mean I know, you know some stuff here and there.
Speaker 1:I know a lot of stuff from like movies and some stuff from like other research, like so I want to be clear when we talk about witchcraft, I mean actual witchcraft, not these fucking california girls who are like I have a book that's life in wicca or life in wicca, and it's not that witchcraft yeah the real shit, the evil shit well, you know it's kind of similar to like voodoo and shit.
Speaker 2:You know it's like a lot of just like you know you don't like somebody, you curse them or you know you you do a spell to whatever the fuck you know and you'll like fill a jar with fucking eye of newt and shit you know which. Like all of those uh, all of those like ingredients are like actual things. They're not like a literal eye of newt, like it's something else, like a plant or something like I mean.
Speaker 1:I mean right Um. What do you know about witchcraft?
Speaker 3:Most of my knowledge comes from books, uh, books on the occult.
Speaker 2:Mustard seed. Mustard seed is big, is eye of newt.
Speaker 3:And um so I? I don't know anything about, about what we today call witchcraft. I know more of literature based upon the. Shall we call it the entity? It would be like the church of witchcraft, the occult um it's a lot of satan worship.
Speaker 2:It's a lot of yeah, I know about like the rituals right and shit. I listened to a lot of podcasts on those.
Speaker 1:I was pretty fascinated by the sal witch trials.
Speaker 3:I remember one time I'm a little devastated to know that they were wrong more than ever.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, you know, your wife is being a fucking asshole Witch. Well, there was something else.
Speaker 3:There was something else that really just blew my mind.
Speaker 1:It was a lot of fear.
Speaker 3:Connect two dots that I never thought of. A lot of women who were charged with being witches were maidens or matrons. They were single. A lot of women who were charged with being witches were maidens or matrons. They were single. A lot of maidens who were single had cats. Cats do wonders at eliminating rodents. Many of the women who survived the plagues did were accused of being witches because they were never stricken with ill like everybody else and it was just a simple fact that the freaking cats killed the rats and kept them away from their own that's like some civilizations and like um, you know, like there'll be a civilization who will like, did they?
Speaker 2:they wash their hands like, like let's say yeah they wash their hands and like shit like that, you know, for like religious purposes, like in. You know, I can't think of the word, I'm slightly intoxicated, but um, they do that right meanwhile, all these nasty ass.
Speaker 2:You know other people who don't do like you know, they don't wash their hands and do all that shit. So it's like they get sick and it's like, oh, the people who are washing their hands and shit don't. And they're like, oh, it's because they're fucking evil. You know, I'm saying I've I've.
Speaker 1:There's a lot of things in the Bible that I've realized I think I might have talked about this on the podcast where there's some things in the Bible where it's like, oh, these people were just like something not quite this exact thing, but something along those lines where it's like Jesus says to do this what seems like kind of like an odd thing to say, to do, but then, knowing modern science, you're like, yeah, obviously, wash your hands. That makes fucking sense. Like things like that. Where you're like, oh, no wonder they saw it as as like this, because at the time it was, but they would see it as like this uh kind of marvelous thing, like, oh, wow, how did he, how did he know that it's keeping us safe? Or I feel like I'm not getting my point across very well here.
Speaker 3:Well, simplistic things. You're very similar to what TJ is saying, if I'm understanding you right, like come inside, take off your unlatch your sandals, wash your feet. And it's like wow, you know these are marvelous things. Well yeah, except for you know you're outside traipsing around, you're stepping in poop, literally.
Speaker 1:You, you're stepping in poop, literally. You come back in your home. What's the smartest thing to do? Kick your shoes off, wash your feet and then walk around. Yeah, you know, we are like when, when, um god, I forget who it was, but basically I think maybe it was daniel I, I can't remember but basically god tells them, um, eat some bread and take a nap. And and they do, and then they felt better and you're like wow, it's biblical. If you're feeling, take a nap and eat some food.
Speaker 2:You'll be fine, crazy. So what you're telling me is I'm spitting scripture every time Madison tells me she's a headache.
Speaker 1:Yeah, every time you're like, have you drank water? Have you drank water, that's biblical.
Speaker 3:It's on Bible.
Speaker 2:Taking a nap.
Speaker 3:So one of the things I could bring up regarding this particular movie that does have to do with survival outside of just the spiritual realm is we see this in all three of these movies. So I put this together based on all three of the movies. It's teamwork and trust and that would work in any survival situation that you're stuck with somebody. I mean it works out very well that they're husband and wife, but let's face it, even husbands and wives don't communicate as well as this couple did Like they. They worked it out a little, a little too well. That might be the most Hollywood thing about this, this film.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, I actually find that more believable because, like the first movie, one of my beefs was that it felt like they weren't telling each other what they needed to, like Lorraine would would constantly not tell him things that she saw, and I'm like I feel like that's something you should share with the guy you're investigating with. That just seems like some important details. And I noticed the same thing in the second movie, this one. It did seem like they were real, uh, real connected, just everything they that they saw or heard together. And you know why? I think it's because a lot more happened to ed, yeah, then to lorraine, and he would tell her when, when things were were happening, or I guess things were more vivid this time. Like in the first movie, it wasn't. Lorraine got like she felt like three stories down, she got hurt, but she wasn't like possessed and and doing the actions yeah of the past.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, so this was a lot more physical and she couldn't just be like, oh, it was nothing, I don't want to talk about it, because he watched her do it yep, no, that's, that's good what about, um, I guess.
Speaker 3:I guess we would say uh, I want to play devil's advocate just a little bit on that point, which is I understand and I actually agree with you. But what if her mentality was saying don't tell him lest you make it come true? It's kind of like think of back to the future, think of back to the future you can't know you can't know the future because if you know the future, you're going to alter the outcome.
Speaker 3:So I can't tell you what happens, right, which destroys the whole premise for part two and part three. But you know, nonetheless it's, it's fun, but the idea behind it remains the same is I can't tell you the future because if I tell you it won't happen. Doctor Strange with Iron man in Marvel, it's always a common premise amongst time travel or seeing in the future.
Speaker 1:That's a good point, doctor Strange to say. If I tell you, what happens, it won't.
Speaker 3:So I don't know if that's her mentality, and I actually agree with you on this, but I think, like you're, you're going through this for the first time. You don't have a user's manual on your gift and maybe she's thinking dude, if I tell you what I saw, I'm either gonna make it happen or like what if I make it happen by telling you what happens, yeah, but to me when I, but when it comes to a religious, standpoint no, no, but when it comes to oh when it comes to a religious standpoint.
Speaker 1:My thought would be that that seems like confusion, and god's not the author of confusion in my mind. If you're dealing with something like this, you just need to be united and share all that info.
Speaker 2:Just be a completely united front, uh, against this enemy, because its whole thing is going to be to try and and make you feel isolated and separate you yep, no, I completely agree with that so, um, I I have been over here having thoughts, just random thoughts that I need to bring out to the universe uh, so if you're, if your survival shelter's in the woods, right, yep, you know, apocalyptic situation. Uh, you want to ward off people? I'm, I'm saying, wow, you know, I would do. I was just get like a scavenge animal jaws and shit and just make the witchiest looking shit, just just that I can just hang them from trees and shit and the rational motherfuckers would turn away or even the superstitious ones, that was my first, rational, yeah, yeah, yeah, rational and superstitious, they're gone that was my first thought.
Speaker 2:My second thought is where's this bitch getting all the jaws from to make her?
Speaker 3:shit, right, right um. I think they were goat, but I, I, I don't know for sure I couldn't, I couldn't tell um.
Speaker 2:And then third thought, which was related to the back to the future thing. I like the time travel better in like marvel than I do in back to the future. I like the fact that it splits off into another timelines instead of fucking I like that shit.
Speaker 1:How dare you? Who's to say that Back to the Future doesn't?
Speaker 3:Well, it's like. Well, they talked about it, for sure, they did split a timeline and he actually went back in time to a different timeline. When he went back in part two, he went back to 1985. It was completely different. His dad was dead. Biff was in charge of the whole city, he owned the whole town, basically and he lived with lorraine in a high-rise casino in the penthouse suite.
Speaker 2:See, it was related because there's a motherfucker named lorraine in black.
Speaker 3:To the future, I know, right brought it, brought it full circle confirm these two movies in the same universe so uh, next thing I could bring up if we're done. If we're done with that point, yo, wouldn't that be a crazy, like you know, fucking in the future.
Speaker 2:We invent time travel, and then there's a case like, hey, I had to kill the motherfucker Because if I didn't, the future is going to be fucked up. Do you think that would slide? I feel like you know?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think you'd have to have some real solid proof.
Speaker 3:Wasn't that that was in deadpool, wasn't it? I think that was in deadpool. He went back and he saw adolf hitler as a baby and he was like, oh god, why is this?
Speaker 1:so hard?
Speaker 2:oh wait, I do remember that, yeah I thought you were talking about how cable went back in uh to in time to kill russell yeah, that's what I thought he was talking about at first, but I forgot about that scene.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, no, I wasn't that like an ending credit scene, like it was like flashing through a bunch.
Speaker 3:I think so I'm not stole his.
Speaker 2:I don't remember yeah he took the, the little watch, or whatever yeah, that's why his girl's alive in the the third one, because it is canon alternate universe I mean it is now. They're in the marvel, like mean.
Speaker 3:I mean anyways anyway, that's true, the devil made me do it okay, so another like strategic, another strategic Bible. Was that me? Yeah what the hell? How hold on, let me. Oh, that's why, because it wouldn't let me change that what happened. My phone went off and I couldn't figure out how I had to actually rookie, rookie, rookie.
Speaker 2:My shit's, my shit's off minus one point tj so is it just?
Speaker 3:every time I insult him alex your beard's stupid.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's what it was.
Speaker 2:I just felt like doing it, oh alex, you look like an expired milk day. You know how it gets the layer white around it so it kind of dulls the color.
Speaker 1:I'll be specific Expired. Milk Duds. Alex, I'll give you plus one. That's also a good band name the Expired Milk Duds.
Speaker 3:Expired Milk Duds.
Speaker 1:There's a band called I think it's called the Chats Just a group of Australian dudes who make like their entire album sounds like music that would be on Skate 3.
Speaker 2:I listen to a band called Divorce Culture.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know that one song FM, I think it's by them.
Speaker 2:I really like that song and it's actually really good. I got I gotta listen to music. Dude, you think I'm not cultured. I'm cultured, okay.
Speaker 3:So go on, alex so there's another element of survival that can be brought out of these films, and I think we might have mentioned this before, but it's important in all survival situations stay calm under pressure. I thought you're gonna say stay alive don't let yourself panic you gotta keep breathing you know it's letting yourself hyperventilate is like one of the the worst things you could do when you're in a high pressure situation yeah so you gotta make sure you stay calm, keep breathing deep breaths and, uh, keep your faculties about you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, that's kind of that's a good one in all situations, yeah, even work situations. There's just I work in a pretty, I would say, a pretty high stress environment most of the time Maybe not most of the time, but a good chunk of time. There there's just a lot that could go wrong at any moment and there's, you know, we could do as much as we can to minimize those risks, but they're always there. Um, so yeah, I mean there's nothing good comes out of panicking, absolutely nothing. It's way better to just be calm and it's, you know, easier said than done. But I don't know, there's a piece that comes with it when you're like it'll work out I just gotta easier to deal with adrenaline when you're panicking than when you're calm.
Speaker 1:You ever been full of adrenaline but you're calm oh yeah, you're like fucking you can feel your heart beating and your like hands are shaking it almost makes me feel crazy because I'm like, I feel like my I'm I'm making my body react in a non-natural way, like my body wants to go a million miles a minute.
Speaker 2:Just calm down, bro, you're tweaking.
Speaker 1:But it's crazy because I'm like sometimes I feel like that's just me on the normal, you know, like my brain's going a million miles a minute and I'm trying to keep my body from not doing that, so sometimes it doesn't feel too different.
Speaker 3:So I get a different kind of feeling and one of my favorite memories of childhood comes from playing roller hockey and we had this other group of kids who this was not organized in any way, shape or form, this other group of kids who played on a team. They saw us playing and they were, you know, talking shit because we were a ragtag bunch. It was like it was Mighty Ducks before Mighty Ducks came out and we were just. We were just kids with no pads, no, nothing. Some of us were on rollerblades, some of us weren't, we were just doing what we did and they wanted to play against us and, uh, I mean, we whipped their ass.
Speaker 3:But the funny part came when, just like you're talking about high pressure, you know we can't let them win, right, you can't be walking around getting talked shit on about these, these fucking punks. And I got my opportunity. They came down hard on a uh, on a breakaway. I'm the goaltender, shot the puck and, just like you guys are talking, I knew it was adrenaline, my heart was racing but I was breathing, I was concentrating and I saw myself, before I did it, catch that puck and I sure as fuck did like it was. I saw it happen before it happened. So when I hear people say, visualize it, right, right, visualize it happening, picture yourself doing it. I understand that. You know they tell baseball players that Picture yourself hitting the ball, picture yourself catching the ball. I understand that completely.
Speaker 1:It's like I had to read this stupid fucking book in high school. I think it was either high school or early college. I hated this book. I thought it was so stupid. I still think it's stupid, but it stuck with me for a while, which makes me hate it more and it was called like, um, like superheroes, or like becoming a superhero, or unlocking your superhero, something like that. It was basically a book about flow states and a very scientific thing. It's basically just adrenaline that's controlled, and but they talked about it in this book as, like they talked about in this very fantastical, like superhero type of way. They would talk about like, uh, the skater who jumped the great wall of china, yep, and the surfer who rode the highest wave, recorded on on on record, like things like that. Um, and they would make it like this super fantastical, like magic type thing and it's like they just had a shit ton of adrenaline and they're professionals, they know what they're doing, yep, I mean that. That's really what it is.
Speaker 2:I don't think I can get cracked up on adrenaline and be like I'm gonna ride this fucking wave now I feel like that's, I think it's, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean yeah, if you don't know what you're doing, just shoots up some adrenaline, I'm gonna do a fucking kickflip over this ball of fire. Yeah, they make it sound like it's like if you enter this flow state, you could do anything. You're, you're just invisible and I'm like no, you also have to know what you're doing, just fucking have to know your limitations so the guy who jumped the great wall of china, that wasn't his first time on a skateboard or his first time jumping something I, I like that, I like that that explanation?
Speaker 3:um, only because it perfectly explains what happens when you go wrong, when you have adrenaline like that. I don't know if you've ever had this happen to you, but I used to skateboard and there were days that I couldn't miss a trick. I'm going to land on my feet on my board every single time. It just seems so easy. And then there was this one particular day and I couldn't do the most basic tricks and I should have given up your board and your feet just would not.
Speaker 1:They would not connect.
Speaker 3:I was the set of stairs. I would grind this railing every single day that we were down there. It's it's the school right behind my parents house and we would go down to the lower lot, and I would, everybody would do it. We would grind the uh, the curb lot and I would, everybody would do it. We would grind the curb because it was a really tall curb. So you could ride up, grind the curb, everything and then you ride, you grind the railing down to the lower level and it's only like six steps.
Speaker 3:You know you could jump it easy. We used to jump it barefoot, you know but I just kept falling, missing the board, landing on it sideways, kicking it out from from under me, every kind of mistake you can possibly make with it. And then, one odd time, I'm standing still. We're not, I'm not rolling, I'm standing still and I try to just do a kickflip and I landed it. But when I landed it I landed wrong and so I shot the board out from under me and fell on the ground. And I remember looking at my friend and I was like damn dude, I haven't fallen on my ass in a long time. This is weird. Then we're goofing off, talking, whatever, whatever. Oh, let's do this.
Speaker 3:And it was this nice driveway that you can use as a ramp. Ollie, over the fire hydrant, tried to do it, caught my back truck on the top bolt of the fire hydrant. I supermaned, landed on my chin, folded over, and I remember my friends thinking that I was dead because I was looking. I was knocked out cold is what it was but my eyes were open and they freaked out, though they thought I was dead because I was staring up at the sky, not moving. Not, they were waving their hands in front of me and I'm not responding, and I heard them say go get his mom, go get his mom. And I woke up and I was like what happened.
Speaker 2:They told me what happened. He was doing all of that on this.
Speaker 3:Listen to this guy.
Speaker 1:Oh wow, the first ever skateboard.
Speaker 3:Look at this guy In the 1950s. Yeah, yeah, 1950s.
Speaker 2:Wow, that actually looks pretty dope 1994, you dicks and then, once he grew up a little bit, he got one of these. You can see it right, ass fucking phone.
Speaker 1:Oh, there it is. What in the world is that?
Speaker 3:oh my god, that was in the 80s dude. Yeah, with all the plastic bumpers all over it. Yeah, I had that on the bottom. It was like a, it was like a.
Speaker 1:The first one he showed was like this it literally looked like a piece of wood with wheels bolted onto it um. The second one he showed was like this red board with a skull on it.
Speaker 2:Josh said it was a flat piece of wood when he was first started skating you dicks okay let's just call it a snowboard.
Speaker 1:So I'm snowboarded too um, but yeah, yeah, I know what you mean. There's not in a less physical way. Uh, sometimes, when there's some days where my guitar playing is flawless, I'm soloing like I've never soloed before. All my chords come out so clean and fresh, my finger picking sounds so full and rich, and it's all perfectly balanced. I'm not hitting the high end too high or too much, I'm not hitting the low end too hard, it's all perfectly flawless.
Speaker 1:Then there's other days where I pick up the guitar and I go to play something I've played a billion times and I just cannot fucking do it, and I'll make the stupidest mistakes over and, over and over and over, and there's certain days where I'm just like it's just not a guitar day, I'm just I'm gonna put it down it just reminds me of the uh disney pixar movie fucking soul like everybody doing their thing and then they go into like the flow state and yeah kind of everything goes black, but it's just you vibing yeah like I could lock in on rainbow six siege.
Speaker 2:If I wanted to, I've done fucking 30.
Speaker 3:Something kills a game you know, that's a good point too. That's it. That's a good example too. Very rare I've had those. I've had those on call of duty, modern warfare, where I just I couldn't miss a shot. I could not miss.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm thinking of a specific time when tj fucking went into a flow state against me recently. Oh shit, we were playing modern warfare. We were on the stupid map rust and this guy I I'm not gonna. I was kicking his ass for most of the game. Then there was this one moment where he was at the top of the map and he just knew exactly where I was going to spawn like 15 times in a row we were doing fucking sniper.
Speaker 2:I couldn't fucking move. I would spawn dive, fire, spawn dive.
Speaker 3:Fire Spawn dive.
Speaker 1:He knew exactly what he just entered, this flow state where he knew exactly where I was spawning.
Speaker 1:He knew the spawn points and he was manipulating them too. He knew exactly where to stand to get me to spawn somewhere else and I there was nothing I could do about it. It took me so long to break out of that cycle and I've definitely felt that, especially on siege. I felt that where, all of a sudden, I hear everything, I hear the guy stepping outside the window and I'll, perfectly, I'll shoot through the window and on the kill cam. It looks like I'm hacking, but I'm like I don't know how to explain that. I heard your footsteps and it's just like.
Speaker 1:It's like I could see you on the other side I know exactly where you are yeah and there's just some days where it's like that and other days where, man, I can't hear a guy who's standing right in front of me exactly so what? The. So, going back to this movie, uh, what do you know about like specifically like witchcraft and summoning demons, kind of thing?
Speaker 3:what do I know about that?
Speaker 1:is there anything accurate to this where, like a witch, could summon a demon to go after other people?
Speaker 3:oh yeah, absolutely. Uh, we have it. Actually, those are some of some of of the oldest roots of voodoo of zombies, which was summoning a corpse to go after people. It would do your will, basically because, theoretically, legally speaking, if a corpse killed somebody- what are they going to do?
Speaker 1:arrest it?
Speaker 3:Who's charged right? There are some roots of voodoo. Well, it's voodoo mixed with Catholicism, mixed with paganism that creates Santeria, which has a lot of that. There are things like the voodoo doll, love potions. Love potions are really creepy because it's like a long-term intoxication that would make you feel a certain way, like if you've ever been emotional when you're drunk. Imagine that long-term and you can't snap out of it, and so things like that, which I can't prove it. This is like the Arnie Johnson case. I can't prove it, but a lot of it has to do with demonic control and demonic influence and witchcraft, I think, has a lot of its roots in it. You could go all the way back. You referenced the Bible, all the way back, the sorcerers of Pharaoh, who were able to do the same trick as Moses when he threw his staff down and turned it into a serpent. They were like what's the big deal with that? And they threw their staffs down and they turned into serpents. So sorcery goes back as old as prostitution.
Speaker 1:I remember recently going through that book again and I remember I was telling Rosie about it. I was like man, pharaoh sucked man. There were so many times where I'm like what more do you fucking want? The amount of times that Pharaoh would be like all right, all right, all right, you win, you win, fine, you and God win, go ahead. And then immediately after was like actually, I don't think I've learned my lesson yet. Change my mind. And and then most would be like okay, this is gonna happen. And he was like I don't think you're telling the truth. And then once again, it would happen. And then pharaoh's like all right, all right, you guys win. And that happened like eight times. It's crazy like you would think after like one or two times, pharaoh would be like you, probably the real shit.
Speaker 3:Which I would like to bring up. The next point here All three of these movies show the same and all survival movies, Everything related to survival. This is a key point Knowledge is power.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:The Warrens use their own expertise and they rely on each other's expertise to work out their deal. But in any situation, understanding your environment and being prepared that's one of the things that we always say regarding survival is being prepared. So if you're going to go somewhere, you're going somewhere new. In our case, let's say we're not going to go demon hunting or fighting or anything like that, we're going camping. The smartest thing to do is research the area that you're going to so that you understand it. You know what's out there, what are the predators, what are the prey, what are the tracks? Uh, what is? What's the scat? How can I recognize? Those are the smart things to do when you're going to go out into something else's environment yeah, learn what their habitat is research your shit, be prepared I like that, I like
Speaker 1:that I do like that was good I think you should do that when you know that's just a bear or a fucking deer or what? Yeah, well, I mean, if you're mixing up bear poop and deer poop, yeah, I think you're lost.
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, you see a fucking log versus like some pebbles, and you're like oh, that log belongs to a jackalope.
Speaker 1:You see a giant fucking stinky pile and you're like I'm probably fine.
Speaker 3:A giant stinky pile with fur and teeth in it. I'm fine.
Speaker 1:That doesn't seem like a predator's at all. No. I think, that's a good rule for if you're going anywhere, even if you're going to a different state or a different, especially, I would say, a different country, look up common laws that you should know about.
Speaker 3:That's good too.
Speaker 1:That's a good point, because the thing is, just because you don't know about a law doesn't mean that you're not going to be held to that law. So you got to know the law of the land that you're going to not going to be held.
Speaker 1:That's right law. So you got another law of the land that you're going to and I think that's. I think, as americans, that's often uh, maybe overlooked might be the word, because in europe they travel between countries so often because every country is the size of their foot and in america, basically our version of that is traveling amongst the states, but we have the giant federal law that goes across all the states. But we have the giant federal law that goes across all the states. So you know, there's the common things that we all know.
Speaker 2:There's random little laws in other states but most of those are like misdemeanors in any walk on a wednesday afternoon with a salmon in your right hand without holding a bible or else you'll get 25 years in state penitentiary.
Speaker 3:Don't spit gum on the sidewalk.
Speaker 1:That's not very valid.
Speaker 3:It's still on the books in Massachusetts, I think we should, I'm going to take Eric to the gum wall.
Speaker 2:You ever been to the gum wall in Seattle?
Speaker 1:No, I never have. I'm going to take him to the gum wall.
Speaker 2:It's going to be magnificently disgusting and he's going to be mesmerized. We're going to take a selfie.
Speaker 1:And the people who say that they fucking lick the wall.
Speaker 2:Oh God, I would lick the wall for like a million dollars.
Speaker 3:I understand that premise there.
Speaker 2:Just for free. You're a fucking freak.
Speaker 1:It's the same thing with the Liberty Bell, though that's so gross. I would never lick the Liberty Bell, but here's the logic.
Speaker 3:There is logic to it. It's out in the sun, day and night. Do you know? The best disinfector in the world is the sun. It's in an alley, so if it gets no sun, or does it get?
Speaker 2:I feel like it gets less than a full day's sun. I'm not sure.
Speaker 3:No, it doesn't it doesn't need a full day because an hour of sun is.
Speaker 1:It works wonders no amount of sun on a gum wall would make me feel okay with no, no I.
Speaker 3:I'm not disagreeing with you, I would never do it. But I understand tj's premise. I would do something utterly disgusting for and I'm not saying me, but what tj's saying is I will do something utterly disgusting for a million dollars.
Speaker 1:The logic is there me, I, I don't, I don't think a million dollars is worth it I think for a million dollars I could do it, because I could logically just get my mind I would lick the liberty bell for a million dollars twenty dollars is twenty, I would. I would lick the liberty bell for a hundred thousand dollars yeah, I I the liberty bell would actually, I would take significantly less to do I was even gonna say like 10 000 skeleton of our first president I would not do that for health?
Speaker 3:reasons you are is the pocket freaking rancid? I know right, I need to have a pocket. I cleaned out my pocket lint.
Speaker 2:Well, I got the 20 I don't have to start, we would have had a deal To disinfect it.
Speaker 3:You want to hear my next idea.
Speaker 1:Sure.
Speaker 3:Survival related Okay, right, we've brought this up in other movies Faith and belief, whether it's faith in yourself, faith in your cause, faith in your God. You need faith if you're being challenged to your mortality.
Speaker 1:I would agree. I mean, I would say that I'm sure you agree that humans are made to serve something, so I agree with that. Actually, I don't think I want to bring that up.
Speaker 3:Well, so we saw this. We covered the life of Pi last week and we kind of saw that faith being a key for him, and it wasn't even necessarily faith in a god. This guy, I wouldn't say worshipped multiple gods, but he studied multiple gods and at the time that he was going through his ordeal being shipwrecked and floating in the ocean he hadn't really made a decision or made peace with God, if you will. But he still had to have faith in something and I think we all came to the same agreement that his faith was in this story. He created a survival tactic and it happened to work for him.
Speaker 2:He kept a quote-unquote tiger alive also I don't think we brought it up he'd be he was multiple religions.
Speaker 3:To end the movie too, he was yeah, I don't think we said it at the end, but it was. It was never cleared up right. He never went against, he never followed through with his dad's belief. You have to believe one thing or you can't believe everything, because you might as well believe nothing which I still do, kind of believe that but that belief, his faith in that movie, their faith in this movie, both in god and in each other, was their source of strength yeah and that's ended.
Speaker 3:You know, ultimately, at the end, that's what saved him uh saved her.
Speaker 2:Another key factor that we haven't really discussed is that uh ed was hurt in this one um this was the the first movie where he got fucking kill bill punched in the heart and he was like oh, yeah, oh yeah, he did, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, the demon almost killed him on the first exorcism.
Speaker 1:That's right now. Oh my gosh, drink, drink something. How much do we know about Ed Warren? Did that actually happen? Did he have a heart attack during?
Speaker 2:I mean, if you look at Ed Warren in real life, bro was kind of chunky.
Speaker 3:Yeah he was. They made him look really good in the movies. They cast a very good looking actor for him.
Speaker 2:He was a chunky monkey, the chick who plays Lorraine. She's hotter than the actual lorraine, but like she fits the vibe she does.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she has a good vibe.
Speaker 1:Good vibe, but like but did ed actually have a heart attack?
Speaker 3:don't look like ed uh, I don't know if he had one during uh, so I looked it up.
Speaker 1:No, he did not, and okay, so that part was all, so it dramat, so it dramatized the event to make it.
Speaker 3:He had heartburn. Now I do know that.
Speaker 1:Lorraine, he had heartburn after dinner, before the exorcism yeah, and then the movie is like it was a heart attack. Yeah, okay, hold on.
Speaker 3:Let me say this though, just because just be aware, aware anybody. If you're not subject to heartburn normally and you have heartburn, you might want to get checked out because it does present. Heart attacks do present as heartburn or indigestion. They can be confused one for the other did I?
Speaker 1:did I talk about my indigestion story on this podcast before the time? I woke you up in the middle of the night because I thought I was having a heart attack. You remember that?
Speaker 1:it was back in jackson I do yeah, I, I must have been like 19 or something. I remember knocking on alex's door and I was like I know this sounds stupid, but I feel like I'm having a heart attack, because it was like the middle of the night, it was like 2 am and my chest was so was I asleep, you guys were asleep huh, my chest was so constricted.
Speaker 1:You guys were asleep, my chest was so constricted I felt like I couldn't breathe and it was just hurting so bad. And my fingertips were numb but on both hands and it was hurting so bad, and so I was trying to just like, oh, you know, maybe you know, I'm just having like a stomach problem. Try turning this way. Turning that way, nothing was helping. After After a little bit, I started getting worried. So I went and woke Alex up and I was like I know this sounds so stupid because I there's no way this is what it is, but it feels like I'm having a heart attack.
Speaker 2:And that was when you told me you were like well, you're a better man than me, I would have just thugged it out Fucking died.
Speaker 3:No, I walk in my room by myself.
Speaker 1:I'm like, I'm like, no bro.
Speaker 2:It's fine, don't be a pussy, die at 19 of a heart attack. Fucking mom walks in on my, so I walks in.
Speaker 1:I'm like, so I um, but that's when alex was like well, is your left arm numb? And I was like no, but my fingertips are numb. And that's when you were like, oh, it's indigestion probably. Uh, you're like just give it like 15 minutes and and see what happens. And uh, yeah, I mean, it's a good thing, it wasn't a heart attack I didn't tell you to drink baking soda or apple cider vinegar. I think you might've said that, but I was like he was like no, I'm going to do that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was like it's a it's a quick way to know Cause, if you have a indigestion, if you know the difference between the two. If you have heartburn, you could take a teaspoon of baking soda and water and it will cool it. I mean, your burps are going to be hot but it's going to stop burning. If you have indigestion, take a glass of water with a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar. If you have really bad heartburn, two tablespoons or indigestion, rather, two tablespoons of apple cider vinegar and a full glass of water. So eight and two tablespoons. Chug that down. It will burn at first, but believe me, the relief you'll get afterwards will be remarkable yeah, that was an intense pain, also heart attacks.
Speaker 2:I've heard it's like your fucking arm like starts hurting your jaw, your your left arm.
Speaker 3:Now, of course, if someone has that rare condition where all of your organs are inverted, it would be your right arm. So if you know you have that condition, please be aware.
Speaker 1:That's crazy. I didn't even know that was a thing it is. That's super interesting.
Speaker 3:So you know, please get regular physicals, get checkups, go to your doctor.
Speaker 1:Don't be like me but it's not.
Speaker 3:It's not because your doctor is a cure-all. Uh, you need to establish a rapport with a doctor that you can talk to, that you tell them what's going on, because it is a practice. They don't know you, you know you what's normal what is?
Speaker 1:that's also the thing. Like there, there are certain consistencies amongst all bodies, but everybody's body reacts differently to everything, so it's hard to say like y'all ever get that fucking random sharp ass pain right in the center of your fucking chest.
Speaker 2:It feels like you're about to die well, always I, I get it, I've gotten it every once in a while, I'll just be like oh you know I mean I've got.
Speaker 3:I've gotten that because I I wear contacts that are night and day wear, so I sleep in them. And I've gotten that because I wear contacts that are night and day wear, so I sleep in them, and I've gotten that kind of headache right in the middle of the night when clearly my eyes aren't getting enough oxygen, and it just pierces my temple and I'm like, oh God, I'll get up nauseous and I'll yank my contacts out.
Speaker 1:I get altitude sickness now. I never got it. I've been flying since I was six. Never got it until the summer of 2020. I I don't know what it is now, but um, flying sucks for me now I don't get car sick, I don't get, I, I get seasick a little bit, but somebody else was driving.
Speaker 2:I get car sick. I don't get car sick oh, I heard a lot. I hear a lot of people say that it's just because when you're operating a motor vehicle, it's kind of like an extension of yourself, so you kind of know what it's doing.
Speaker 3:You feel it, you feel everything.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you're with somebody and you're in the passenger seat.
Speaker 1:You're expecting to feel what you're feeling. Yep, that's the difference.
Speaker 2:It's kind of like it's a part of you and you're like you know if I'm turning right.
Speaker 1:My body's preparing to turn right. I already know that I'm turning right.
Speaker 2:My body's told me 15 seconds before I'm gonna turn right you drive with somebody who you know doesn't know how to stop slower at fucking intersections you ever drive with a motherfucker who, like, waits to the last moment to press the brake.
Speaker 1:Yes, I know, I, literally I have someone in mind. You're fucking like waits to the last moment to press the brake. Yes, I know, I, literally I have someone gonna press the brake yourself.
Speaker 2:You're fucking like where's the fucking? My cousin elijah, oh no, oh my god, he sucks.
Speaker 1:I I love him to death. He fucking sucks with that his wife will agree, because we've but we've talked about this. Her and I have talked that he fucking waits till the last second to break. Every time, and every time I'm sitting in his passenger seat, I'm fucking slamming fake brakes every time I always say that's someone who trusts their brakes way too much yeah, I'm like the day your brakes aren't quite as good as you remember them being.
Speaker 2:You're gonna fucking slam this dude in the back, you get a fucking leak in your brake line. There's a slightly less pressure.
Speaker 1:You're cooked so I I break so much and I break so early because I'm like, if my brakes start to fail, I want to know right away so I can swerve. Yeah, uh, yeah.
Speaker 3:So the thing that I'll tell you on the opposite side is me when I am sitting passenger or backseat. This is the backseat is what really trips people out backseat makes me say I could sit in the back, read a book. Nope, I could. I. I don't need to look around, I don't. And I've had. I've been told by so many people. How do you do that? Now I just tell people iron stomach, dude, and I really do. I really do have an iron stomach.
Speaker 2:I get heartburn and, uh, I suffer heartburn all the time, but it's that's the most yeah, I mean, I rarely get sick not to eat, so I don't fucking get heartburn, but I do.
Speaker 3:No, I get heartburn from everything, bro. I get heartburn from water. Yeah, yeah, I don't have any of that, somebody but.
Speaker 2:I can't read in a car. So I got two things. Somebody who I hate fucking being in the car with is my stepfather, because he keeps his hand at the top of the wheel just one.
Speaker 1:so if he goes over a bump it just kind of moves with it so after you hit, you just fucking wobble like that yeah I've done um I today in one of the work vans, one of the big work vans, there was a part of the road that was real fucked up and when I hit it the whole van just went and I was like, yeah, it's fine and I drive a uh I drive a lincoln town car, so one of those big beefy cars it's not gonna pull me off the road I drive exactly like that tj.
Speaker 3:I mean, the car is super smooth, so like hitting potholes or anything like that. It it doesn't make me swerve like that, at least I don't think I don't have passengers with me that often but I don't think.
Speaker 2:And then josh said weird fact did you know ketchup was actually invented to cure indigestion?
Speaker 3:that's interesting I did not know that.
Speaker 2:Can we fact check that, pull that up?
Speaker 3:all right, let's check, let's check. Uh, jamie, pull that up, jamie pull that up.
Speaker 1:oh wow, fact, check that. Pull that up. All right, let's check. Let's check, jamie, pull that up. Jamie pull that up. Oh wow, that's ketchup being shoved into a bottle with blueberries.
Speaker 2:That's interesting, jamie can you pull up a picture of a puffin doing a backflip into a vat of spaghetti?
Speaker 3:Yes, ketchup was once marketed as a cure for indigestion. In the 1830s, an ohio physician named dr john cook bennett promoted tomato-based ketchup as a medicinal tonic. He claimed it could treat ailments like indigestion, diarrhea, even jaundice. He even sold it in the form of tomato pills and cornflakes, of course, stop people from masturbating of course, modern medicine eventually debunked these claims, and ketchup transitioned from a supposed remedy to the beloved condiment we know today.
Speaker 2:Cornflakes are the stuff, eww.
Speaker 3:Okay, this makes me mad. I wonder if anybody else has this visceral reaction. Quite the journey for a humble sauce, don't you think?
Speaker 1:Sauce.
Speaker 3:Do you think ketchup is a sauce? I mean, that bothers me, that really gives me a visceral reaction.
Speaker 2:It's more of an aioli, it's a puree, you know yeah.
Speaker 3:I wouldn't call it a sauce, an aioli, it's a puree, because like at McDonald's, if they ask you what sauce you want.
Speaker 1:If you say ketchup, I feel like they're going to be like what?
Speaker 3:You know, but that makes me mad, that you just said that. But if you add ketchup to, if you add ketchup to molasses and brown sugar, you have barbecue sauce.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that makes it a sauce, but it's still a condiment. It's still a condiment, isn't it like ketchup mustard and some other shit to make fry sauce?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't think ketchup on its own is a sauce. It's a condiment. It's still a condiment. I wouldn't call mustard a sauce. Yeah, I wouldn't call mayo a sauce.
Speaker 3:So like oh mayo.
Speaker 1:They're condiments.
Speaker 3:Imagining mayo as a sauce just doesn't sound right.
Speaker 1:Mayo as a sauce that just sounds so wrong. I like mayo, but as a sauce I don't know.
Speaker 2:Imagine you go to the cookout of a white family and say, yeah, I'm about to throw these ribs into the smoker, rub some mayo on it 12 hours ago, let it sit, it's just fucking just spacey white ribs. Oh, that'll give you a little kick in your mouth.
Speaker 1:Oh, I put some salt on there, can you taste it?
Speaker 3:You know, if you like ribs and you ever make it down here, I will smoke you my famous ribs. It's a dry rub and they're long smoked. So five hour, maybe six hour cook time.
Speaker 2:Low heat, low and slow. I prefer wet rub. You are a good old wet rub.
Speaker 3:No, no, try it first Dry rub if you're struggling.
Speaker 1:I've tried a dry rub, but I also prefer a wet rub.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the friction of the dry rub really.
Speaker 3:You don't wet. Rub the ribs, guys.
Speaker 1:I just feel like I'm starting to fire. I was not. I don't think we were talking about ribs.
Speaker 3:Guys. Final comment on the Conjuring 3, if I may host Sure, I think in again. This applies to all survival, which is facing fears. If you're faced with something that you are absolutely afraid of, but you are also facing your mortality, I think the option of tucking tail and run is kind of taken away from you. You have to face it. For instance, I mean, we've talked about this I think the worst case scenario is you're confronted with a grizzly bear. Bottom line is you know you can't run from it. Right, you know you can't climb it, you can't out-climb it, you can't out-jump it, you can't out-swim it, you can't out-run it.
Speaker 3:We've got to do something with it. So we try to do the sensible thing.
Speaker 1:You've got. We try to do the sensible thing and research the proper techniques. What to do if you're confronted with a bear?
Speaker 3:before you go out there. Exactly, it doesn't prefer a dry rub or a wet rub. Probably a wet rub. You don't want to make it mad.
Speaker 2:So what you do is you run up to the bear, you jump on it, you give it all you wrap your legs around its neck, you twist and jerk, you kind of do a serpentine motion while you're wiggling right, you pop its neck. It's back really hurts because it hasn't slept on an actual mattress right. So once it back cracks.
Speaker 3:Then it's going to thank you.
Speaker 2:It'll stand up and be like thank you, sir, Walk away. It'll give you $40.
Speaker 3:Will it say thank you, sir, in a British accent?
Speaker 2:It's like an Ed Edd n' Eddy when say thank you, so in a british accent it's like an ed, ed and eddie.
Speaker 3:When uh, ed, ed and eddie, oh my god, didn't uh have a rock in his shoe and he ate a whole fucking slide.
Speaker 1:We are not that young that's a 90s thing though, isn't it fuck?
Speaker 2:ed and eddie ed literally had a rock in his shoe and it made him go so ballistic that he ate a slide, a couch, a whole. I think he ate a house. I don't. I can't remember.
Speaker 3:The motherfucker was just tweaking but I still think it's a 90s thing it's not.
Speaker 2:I've watched rugrats too, and I've seen rocco's modern life and I've fucking well it might be a 90s thing, but hey, arnold every time like for for people our age tj.
Speaker 1:Everybody acts like the 90s were like 50 years before us and that we're like watching these ancient shit.
Speaker 2:I'm like dude, we grew up when this shit was still around 2005 january 4th 1999 90s, part two. It was literally like the same shit I had january 4th 1999 yeah, we had a vcr too I had a cd player up until fucking middle school I used to have one of these tiny little MP3 players.
Speaker 3:Nice.
Speaker 1:With like three buttons on it Yep and a headphone jack and it was one of my favorite things ever. There's still certain songs that I hear to this day.
Speaker 3:That remind you of it.
Speaker 1:That when I hear it, I'm expecting the next song to play, and I know exactly what song it should be Okay.
Speaker 3:That's funny that you said that. I have that exact same reaction from the cd, the actual cd. When I play this cd it has um modest mouse um float on float on the very next song. I'm expecting it to be um. Is it electric eel? Is that what it's called? Electric eel, electric? No, that's not right. I always confuse the name of the song. It's the.
Speaker 1:But I know exactly what you mean. My brain has been conditioned that after that song, this is what the next note is, because I listened to it in that order. There was no shuffle on that little MP3 player.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yep, so I would listen to those songs in the same order over and over and over Electric Feel.
Speaker 3:Electric Feel. Listen to those songs in the same order over and over and over electric feel, electric feel, mgmt.
Speaker 1:So my, my brain got so conditioned that, well, that's what the next song is supposed to be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't have an mp3 player, I got an ipod, I think. Sixth, grade or seventh grade I had an ipod nano, sixth generation. It was a square but it had a touch screen on it. Uh, that shit was heat. Um, I had, but yeah, I had a cd player up until like fucking hell, I had a goddamn walk man it was kind of crazy now it said that's beyond our years.
Speaker 1:We never had a walk.
Speaker 2:And then once I got a, uh, first like touch screen that's beyond us I've had flip phones, I had a sidekick, I had shit like that um, but once I had my first touch screen phone. I remember getting all my music from one of those fucking uh ring tone apps, but it would have literally the entire fucking song on it, so you could just download the whole mp3. So I had like a list like yeah, I'm just gonna use okay, so wait real quick.
Speaker 3:Do you guys remember limewire? Yeah, I know that was your thing, right, okay, but I know what I never really used, so I had like a list. Yeah, I'm just going to use a part of it, okay, so wait Real quick. Do you guys remember LimeWire?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know LimeWire, that was your thing right, I never used it, Okay, but I know what it is. I never really used it either, but I know Uncle Gil used it all the time.
Speaker 3:That's funny.
Speaker 1:There's another one.
Speaker 3:It's like Frost something. You guys off I and mostly you eric, because I think, uh, tj, you're older, right?
Speaker 2:I am turning 25 and two months, so you guys are both in that.
Speaker 3:In that group that would be called a uh, a zennial a zillennial.
Speaker 1:A zillennial, is that what?
Speaker 3:it is a zennial because, like we're, not the.
Speaker 2:I was alive when the towers fell I was too I remember my horrified one year old brain by less than a month.
Speaker 3:They hit the fucking pentagon mom.
Speaker 2:They hit the pentagon as my one year old self. It was crazy.
Speaker 1:I was literally two weeks old. I actually wasn't sentient until I was three, so that was like a really miraculous moment when you said that, yeah it was crazy, like I was full English. Those were your first words. Yeah, they hit the fucking pentagon, they hit the fucking Pentagon. They hit the goddamn Pentagon. Say mama, say mama.
Speaker 2:They hit the fucking Pentagon. What happened to the guy who made the first water-powered car?
Speaker 1:Say da-da-da, it was an inside job. Steel can't melt.
Speaker 3:Jet fuel can't melt steel beams. Damn. Where did the debt go? We still got to do that episode, guys.
Speaker 1:A 9-11 episode.
Speaker 3:Yeah, a conspiracy theory episode.
Speaker 2:Will you survive 9-11? We'll find out next time on. Will you Survive the Podcast?
Speaker 1:Well, that's a simple math, where we strap ourselves into a well that's a simple, where we strap ourselves into a that's a simple math. How many people were in the building? How many people died? Welcome?
Speaker 2:back to impractical jokers. Mer has to be in this building, oh my god.
Speaker 1:That is the type of fucking pray.
Speaker 3:That's the type of punishment they would always do to mer damn, I know, I remember that guy saying uh, in one of the last ones he says something like uh, that is the type of fucking punishment they would always do to Murr Damn. I know. I remember that guy saying in one of the last ones he says something like why has it always got to be me? He? Was so mad.
Speaker 1:They're like for Murr's punishment he's got to swim in these shark infested waters while we chum the waters with no shark cage. All right, go on Murr Yep, and you're like shit murr had to sit there when they had the.
Speaker 3:Oh no, no, no, I'm mixing it up. That one was jackass where, uh, they had one of the guys sitting on the sitting on the stool and they let a grizzly bear in and eat the fish out of his belt oh yeah, I I hate.
Speaker 1:Every time I watch them I'm just like this is the worst shit you could possibly do.
Speaker 3:Like this is I, I will admit it's not even entertaining to me.
Speaker 1:It's not even funny. It's just like what the fuck are you doing?
Speaker 3:I will admit there are. Uh, the reason why I don't like it is I laugh far less times than I'm just like oh, exactly like impractical jokers. I laugh the entire, every single time yeah, the family.
Speaker 2:I clip where they're like want to do jackass shit and they're like he's like my name is peter and this is roof, roof shopping cart all right go and he fucking flies off the roof, breaks his neck and he's like oh, oh, oh, is it bad, is it bad? They're all freaking out.
Speaker 3:Oh my god. Oh my god. Was that the same guy who jumped off the table onto the microwave? He was like this is microwave wrestling. Don't try this at home. And he jumps off and the microwave barely gives at all as he falls completely on it Just his back.
Speaker 2:He's like ah, no, the one that.
Speaker 1:I did think was funny was when they took golf carts and they just fucking sent them and they fucked themselves up with. Took golf carts and they just fucking sent them and they just they fucked themselves up with those golf carts. That was funny, because that's some shit. I would actually.
Speaker 2:There's the one uh clip from it where johnny knox fills on a big ass rocket full of smaller rockets on the inside to try to propel himself and one of them shoots like two inches, like out of, like the side of it, like next to him. He could have been, he could have been impaled bro.
Speaker 3:So there was something else that was like a side side project. Nobody, nobody big involved in it. We're not a side project. That's not the right thing to say. It's like uh, adjacent to impractical jokers. Uh, where it was? You know those big balls that you can ride in like you can run, oh, yeah, the hamster balls, the hamster balls and they had taken this guy on the top of a tall like a steamboat and threw him off.
Speaker 3:They launched him off of it into the water. Oh my god, it was only funny because, like you see the guy flying in here there's nothing you can do. This is going to hurt twice, dude. I don't know why. I thought, hey, it might work until the ball hit. Then he hits the bottom of the ball. I was like that had to be just as hard as concrete. Right there there was no padding, oh God.
Speaker 1:Every time I see those hamster balls. I can't remember who got hit, but it makes me think of unisonis and if you know, you know. But there was an episode where mark and ethan were running at each other in those balls and I can't remember who jumped. I think it was, I think it was ethan jumped and kicked mark straight in the balls either mark or or ethan. But it was just. It was just fucking perfect the way it happened and oh, it was so funny.
Speaker 3:Is comedy all right.
Speaker 1:well, we kind of went off topic there, but I'm not gonna lie. We talked about most things about this movie we've talked about in the previous two movies. Yeah, when it comes to like religion and faith and dealing with demons, and this was- I tried to keep it survival related. Yeah, I mean this one's interesting Okay.
Speaker 3:Facing fears.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the it was actually like. At one of the first parts in the movie, the dude who eventually becomes possessed is talking to the little boy who is possessed and he's like you know, you're really brave and he's like I don't feel brave. But he's like oh, you know, just because you know, just because you're scared doesn't mean you're not brave you can still be scared and be brave yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, being brave.
Speaker 3:I just wanted to bring that point up continue what you were saying, eric.
Speaker 1:I like that point because that's something that I think people at least me. I don't know if everyone does, but I think there's times where we tend to going to the Bible. We tend to venerate the people that are in the Bible and forget how human they were, that they were just humans. That just because they did these great things in the name of god and they did them for god, doesn't mean that they weren't. You know, they didn't have the human emotion behind it, like being scared. It doesn't mean that you're not scared. It just means that you have trust in god that he's going to take care of it. That doesn't necessarily mean that the human, the adrenaline, the human fear isn't going to be there.
Speaker 1:It just means that you're not going to let that overtake you no exactly and like that's the main thing is that that's something I actually is some random thing. I I heard from uh, one of my mom's boyfriends, uh, a long time ago he was allergic to wasps but he had like three acres of land and there was a giant wasp nest and he had to take care of it. And I he was saying it to me in regards to spiders, which, sorry, fuck you, I'm still terrified of spiders and I still won't fuck with them. I don't like them. But he was basically saying, like you, can't let your fears stop you from doing what you have to do, and I've gotten better about that.
Speaker 1:Hold on. Nope, I've gotten better about that. We're like I won't let a spider stop me from doing what I have to do, like if it's in my way I I have no problem just moving past it, but it doesn't mean that I'm not gonna sit there for the rest of the day. Just like, yeah, like I just hate that.
Speaker 2:Yeah he's just a little man on my car. Oh, he's kind of cute I I do think jumping spiders are cuter than a normal spider still rough I don't love them, but he was like the biggest one I've seen, because normally the ones in washington they're like little like really small. It was like the size of my thumb, like this he's so chunky really quick before we end the episode.
Speaker 1:I saw an instagram reel and it was about a jumping spider.
Speaker 1:It was scientists wanted to see, um, they basically wanted to see what the a jumping spider's tracking looked like when it's tracking uh prey, and what they did, how they did.
Speaker 1:It fucked up, but so funny. They, I think they basically glued a magnet to the top of the of the jumping spider's head and then they took a little magnet pole and they grabbed the spider. And so the spider's just sitting there hanging from this magnet on its head like looking for something to grab, and they put a tennis ball underneath it and it would grab the tennis ball and then they'd put it in front of a screen and they'd show it a stimulus and the the spider would typically turn its body left and right to look at the stimulus. But because it couldn't, because it was held by the magnet, it would twist the the ball left and right, and so the way that the ball was moving would allow the scientist to track how a spider or how a jumping spider was was tracking its prey. It was really interesting. It was cool, but I thought the funniest part was that they glued a magnet to the top of the head so can you imagine the spider who is just a spider and then gets this thing glued to its head.
Speaker 1:Is now hanging from this thing that's attached to its head and then given a ball and is just staring at this thing that it does not understand.
Speaker 2:Moving back and forth, they shed like little head helmets, so eventually the magnet would fall off.
Speaker 1:I'm sure the scientists were conscious about it.
Speaker 2:Imagine yourself like tractor beamed up.
Speaker 1:Could you imagine aliens doing that? We would never stop talking about that if something happened.
Speaker 3:Mind you, I did see an article. I am not testifying to the validity of this article. There was an article that said a man in Texas was convicted and sentenced to 20 years in prison for kidnapping people, pretending that he was an alien and anal probing them.
Speaker 1:See, that honestly does not surprise me At the end of the day, game is game All right, that's wild. You really got to respect you know. Like Another minus one point for you on that one.
Speaker 2:But I think that was reasonable prime. You did the crime, you did the time. Lakers in five all right.
Speaker 1:Well, that was this episode. Um, it really kind of went off the rails right there at the end. Just, I should have stopped it always a second before and I that's my bad, I'm sorry. Uh, let's tally up the points tj with minus one, minus one minus one minus one minus one, uh. Tj has one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, minus seven points. Alex has one, two, three, four points, uh, so with minus seven to four, I think our winner here is alex.
Speaker 1:Yay, good job, alex as a reward want to read the socials I'll read the socials.
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Speaker 1:All right Winner speech.
Speaker 3:My winner speech is that I am grateful for this opportunity. I love talking about these survival topics and this was a little bit tougher, so I'm grateful for this opportunity. I love talking about these survival topics and this was a little bit tougher, so I'm grateful for the win, because it was tough to find survival technique in a spiritual movie like this, but working with the three together made it a possibility. So I'm contemplating and I think I have the movie, so that, uh, josh and any of our listeners can go follow along. They want to watch the movie with us. Uh, I think what we should cover is um well, I gotta re find my idea. Sorry, give a, give your lure. Loser speech TJ.
Speaker 2:If I shotgun this Mike's Hard Lemonade right fucking now, within 10 seconds, can I get the win?
Speaker 1:How much is left in it?
Speaker 2:It's full. If I down this bitch in less than 10 seconds.
Speaker 3:I'm opening it right now.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you what If Alex is willing to make that deal, I will honor it.
Speaker 3:You're going to go 10 seconds 15.
Speaker 2:Give me 15 seconds. It's carbonated. You said 10. It's carbonated.
Speaker 3:I was going to time this shit. What is the ounces of that bitch?
Speaker 2:How many ounces?
Speaker 3:12, 16.
Speaker 2:It's like the size of it's 16.
Speaker 3:It's a pint, pound a pint. That's over an ounce a second. Yeah, I'll make that deal.
Speaker 1:In 15 seconds, or 10? 15. Okay, all right.
Speaker 2:Ready, hold on. I got to turn my fan on. I need the.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:It's hot as fuck in here.
Speaker 1:I don't think we've ever done this on WIS.
Speaker 2:Audio immediately went trash on my shit, but it's fine. This is the end of the episode ready, so tell me when. All right, three two, one go damn you might do it.
Speaker 1:He's gonna do it.
Speaker 2:Four, three, oh wow oh, what did I do, wow, oh well you might not survive.
Speaker 1:That A deal is a deal. If TJ is alive by the start of the next episode, TJ All right. Well, sorry, Alex.
Speaker 2:That's okay.
Speaker 3:You made that deal.
Speaker 2:That was water. Oh, my eyes are watering.
Speaker 1:Your winner speech has retroactively been turned into a loser speech. That's okay. It doesn't make a turned into a loser speech.
Speaker 3:That's okay.
Speaker 1:It doesn't make a lot of sense now, but that's okay. The carbonation TJ. Do you have the willpower to do a winner speech?
Speaker 2:Thank you all for listening. It's been a pleasure, oh shit.
Speaker 3:Okay, just tell me this Was it worth it?
Speaker 1:He's like I don't even have a movie lined up.
Speaker 2:It was worth it.
Speaker 3:Oh fuck.
Speaker 1:He's going to be so drunk too, because he just downed it.
Speaker 2:Oh fuck.
Speaker 3:I don't know, he's got a lot of body mass.
Speaker 1:he might be okay maybe, but he was already drinking. Oh, anyways, all right. Well, with that, that was an interesting end to the episode, so next week look forward to tj hosting instead of alex. Uh, and with that guys, I could feel it coming.
Speaker 2:It's like a big ass bubble. It's going to emerge like a chest burster.
Speaker 3:I should have challenged you to down a 16 ouncer of Sprite.
Speaker 1:Oh, without burping, yeah, and then eat a banana. That's what it is.
Speaker 2:You eat a banana and then you chug Sprite. Eat a banana, then you chug it.
Speaker 1:Dude. Oh my God, that projectile vomit's crazy.
Speaker 3:I love that one.
Speaker 1:I'm fucking sweaty. Oh my tummy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, definitely don't eat a banana and then down Sprite.
Speaker 1:Yeah, stay alive.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I guess you.
