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The iconic survival tale Cast Away takes center stage as TJ, Alex, and Eric dissect Tom Hanks' four-year island adventure with unflinching honesty and plenty of laughs. What would you do if stranded alone with nothing but FedEx packages and a volleyball for company?

Our hosts immediately tackle the film's most controversial moment - Chuck's reluctance to open the washed-up packages. "There's no laws here," Alex declares, explaining why he'd rip them open immediately rather than preserving them for future delivery. This spirals into a fascinating analysis of survival priorities, with everyone agreeing Chuck waited far too long to make fire - a critical mistake when an early signal could have meant rescue.

The psychological aspects of isolation become the conversation's emotional core. Wilson, the blood-stained volleyball companion, represents what Eric calls "psychological anchors" - the lifelines that kept Chuck's sanity intact through four years of solitude. The hosts candidly wonder if they could withstand such extreme isolation without breaking down completely.

From Chuck's gruesome self-dentistry with an ice skate (which sends Eric fleeing from the discussion) to his resourceful tool-making and water collection systems, the hosts evaluate each survival decision with a blend of practical knowledge and humor. They share their own wilderness experience while planning a hypothetical camping trip to test their survival skills against nature's challenges - though perhaps with fewer coconuts falling dangerously close to their heads.

Whether you're a longtime fan of the film or discovering it for the first time, this episode offers fresh perspectives on what it truly takes to survive when stripped of everything except your will to live. Follow us on all social platforms at Will You Survive The Podcast and join the conversation about what you'd do to survive being Cast Away.

Introduction to Cast Away

Speaker 1

Hello survivors and welcome back to another episode of Will you Survive.

Speaker 2

The.

Speaker 1

Podcast, and today we are talking about the movie Cast Away.

Speaker 2

For a brief second. I thought you were waiting for us to finish your sentence.

Speaker 1

I am TJ. I am joined here by my two co-hosts. We've got alex that's me and we've got eric, that's me, eric's the bald one. Um, so yeah, guys, uh, cast away. It's a, it's a, it's a really good movie um eric had never seen it before I'd never seen it before, and you know, just in case you guys haven't seen it before. I'm gonna have have Alex read out the synopsis.

Speaker 3

All right, Forgive me here, because this one is just like the movie a lengthy description. Memphis-based FedEx operations executive Chuck Noland and grad student Kelly Frears have long dated and lived together and, despite each being the love of each other's life, have not gotten married because of their respective busy schedules, especially Chuck's, as he is more often on business trips than he is at home. That marital status changes when, on Christmas Day 1995, as Chuck is rushing off to catch yet another FedEx plane for a business trip, he gives Kelly a ring. That flight experiences technical difficulties and goes down somewhere in the South Pacific In a life raft.

Speaker 3

A relatively unharmed Chuck washes up on shore. What he will learn is a deserted island. He unaware what has happened to any of his fellow flight mates or the plane. However, several of the packages on board for delivery do wash up on shore with him, those packages which he initially treats with respect. Chuck realizes that his priority is survival, which primarily means food, water, shelter and fire and rescue. But survival is also an emotional sense. To fulfill that emotional need, he has an heirloom pocket watch with Kelly's photo that she gave him as a Christmas present and eventually, opening the FedEx packages, a Wilson volleyball on which he paints a face in which he names Wilson. As time progresses, chuck goes through a range of emotions, but if rescue is ever in the cards, he realizes that he has to find a way to get off the island, which is seemingly impossible.

Speaker 2

That was quite a description. Tell me about it. It straight up told the entire movie.

Speaker 1

Let's start this off with what do you think of the movie and would you have done anything differently? Oh, I've got notes. You've got notes, I've got notes.

Speaker 2

First thing I would like to say respect for packages immediately out the window. First of all, there's no laws here. I don't give a shit. Second of all, why collect the packages if you're not going to open them right away? There's so much there could. There could be so much useful stuff in there, and eventually he opened them, but right away. There is no part of me that's ever concerned with like well, they're going to want to deliver these. I'm stranded in the middle of the ocean on a deserted island. I don't care, I'm opening them. I think he waited too long. Also, he waited till he waited so long to make fire, and that's like a night one thing. But those are my notes. Those are my big notes right away, okay.

Speaker 3

I didn't. I didn't have those issues. I actually took his reservation of opening the packages as, i'm'm going to say, a belief that he was going to be rescued quickly. He was really holding onto a hope that this was not going to be a long stay. That was evidenced by the fact that he wrote help on the beach quickly. He was going around collecting the packages, exploring the island. Everything else he did was really quite well. I mean, he went, he surveilled the island, collected packages. While he did so and was looking for anything useful, made himself shelter with his raft. Um, I do think the the funny thing that I remember the very first time I saw this movie, the thumps. He he expressed my exact thought what the hell is that? So it was. It was comforting to find out.

Speaker 2

It was just coconuts falling on the ground, but it's like it was almost rhythmic dj also pointed out, when the coconut fell in front of him it was like a foot to his right.

Speaker 1

he was just a foot over one One oh yeah, he would have been freaking dead movie over Coconuts literally kill people.

Speaker 3

I mean, I think they definitely can.

Speaker 1

Yeah, one thing I would do is, instead of help on the sand, I would have wrote SOS. Eric was like maybe that would take more logs. I think not.

Speaker 2

I feel like it would take less. I don't think so. Yeah, I think it would take less.

Speaker 1

I don't think so yeah, I think it would take less um. I don't know it kind of seems like to each their own. But I mean, he had a plan to uh unalive himself. I I'd say that's pretty uh, accurate uh, except I wouldn't wait three years well, we don't know that.

Speaker 2

He waited three years to do it. He did that at some point.

Speaker 1

Well, no, within those three years um, when he was talking to wilson, when he, like, went to go test it, he said that was a year ago. Stop bringing it up.

Speaker 2

And it was cut to four years, so it was three years into it. Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 1

You're right, which he held on for a minute. Yeah, so here's the thing.

Speaker 2

I think how do I word this? I think, survival wise, the island was actually really nice, yep, and provided a lot and level wise, the island was actually really nice and provided a lot, and I think I think I could actually survive that. I think I could figure it out the way that, the same way that he did. However, I don't know if my psyche could survive four years stuck on an island.

Speaker 1

I think I would melt down. Yeah, he pretty much had like unlimited water so you didn't really have to worry about water like that. He was having a tough time opening those coconutsuts which, like, they're not that hard to open okay, there there are two types.

Speaker 3

Number one he got really freaking lucky with that. Uh, because you have the green coconuts and you have the brown coconuts, the brown coconuts don't drink the milk, it will actually dehydrate you. It works as a diuretic, but the um, the green coconut, the, the outer shell, is really fibrous, so it would be hard. You can make stuff. You can make fire. You can uh you can probably grate it into

Speaker 2

it is what he used, wasn't it? I don't think it's long enough to I, because I thought about that too, about could you use it for rope, but it none of it's long enough to really well, I don't know, but you can bind it together.

Speaker 3

Being that I am a dad of two young children and I have watched Moana about a billion times. They make nets from the fiber. The water is sweet inside.

Speaker 1

You can use the leaves to build fire.

Speaker 3

I'm quoting the song out of the movie.

Speaker 1

Nobody knows that, but anybody who watches. Yeah, I don't know that. You suck, dude, you suck. Don't take this away from my kids. Quoted Lilo and Stitch. See, it's more topical.

Speaker 3

Bro. We were watching Lilo and Stitch all week. I got my daughter into it on Wednesday.

Speaker 2

You know she's so funny, she started crying.

Speaker 3

I don't want to watch this. And like within three minutes, was sitting and is that an alien? Is this on earth? It's a cool movie? What? Why is he gray like? And then, all of a sudden, now today, tonight, we were like, hey, we're gonna watch another movie. And she was like we can watch lilo and stitch I uh, she's so funny.

Speaker 2

She came into my room and she was uh, she was asking me if I knew about, uh, lilo and her friend, and I was. I was like oh, stitch, and she was like yeah, and I was like you mean her friend, and I was like oh, stitch, and she was like yeah, and I was like you mean Experiment 626? And she was like yeah, how the?

Speaker 3

hell, do you know that?

Speaker 2

And she was like they said this weird word a lot. I was like Ohana, ohana means family and she's like yeah, it's a great movie.

Speaker 1

Gotta say say love this movie. I've been watching this movie since it came out. I remember being like six I'm shocked.

Speaker 2

I've never seen this movie before.

Speaker 3

There is something I got out of it something I got out of it new this time that I didn't quite get. I don't know if I got it the first time I watched it. I don't think so, because it seemed like it was new information to me. The pilots were talking to themselves. They were talking to each other about how off course they were. Now maybe I just missed the information, but they explained to you why he was never even remotely close to being found.

Speaker 1

Yeah, they were looking 200 miles away from where they were trying to go around the storm and that, well, you're right, right.

Survival Mistakes and Priorities

Speaker 3

And they had lost communication. They were not communicating with any tower anywhere or any other aircraft, and so nobody would know where they were when they went down. One of the other things that I thought was really kind of. It was very dramatic, very cool to see. A lot of interesting stuff happened there. But when that plane crashed and the wing starts going under, the turbine.

Speaker 2

It wouldn't have been running like that. I thought that was so cool.

Speaker 3

It wouldn't have been running like that.

Speaker 2

I thought it was so cool.

Speaker 3

It looked really awesome. That was a great scene.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's just a little bit of suspense. Is he going to get chopped up or something?

Speaker 3

Kind of War of the Worlds-esque. You know it was.

Speaker 2

The sound effects right there were so freaking good.

Speaker 3

It was a great scene as far as effects go. You gotta, you gotta give them credit for when the plane goes under and he's under with it, and then he opens up the? Uh the raft and it pulls him up and you see the plane going down the? Uh, the lights of things sparking still and arcing and going off and he's getting called up. Oh, that's, that's very interesting.

Speaker 1

I think Eric said that he didn't notice that when he was like inflating it and he was underwater, the thing that got snagged was all the supplies. Oh, it got snagged and pulled under like the orange thing that was full of like supplies and shit.

Speaker 3

That's what jacked him up. So he yeah, flares fires him up.

Speaker 1

So he, yeah, flares fire fighters, whatever the fuck dang. Yeah, if he, if that didn't happen, he would have been even more well off than he was. Um, you know which?

Speaker 3

makes sense that that's very life of pie, because the raft does come with all of that stuff attached to it, so he had to jettison that to get out of the plane. Yeah okay.

Speaker 1

And then, um, also, he had a sw Swiss Army knife on his keys that he had to give back to his girl. That would have been nice to have.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, before he got on the plane.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that.

Speaker 2

Yeah, what I thought so kind of skipping really quick towards the end when he gets back to civilization. I found it very funny and kind of eye-opening when he was walking around just grabbing all the simple conveniences of civilization. Like a lighter and a pocket knife and just all these things that he's like. I had to fight for my life to get these things.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, and they're fucking assholes too. What about?

Speaker 2

the flashlight. Yeah, the flashlight. There's a lot that I think it on so do we think once the the flashlight ran out of battery, do we think he could have found a way to get the glass out and use that to start a fire with the?

Speaker 1

definitely, most definitely. Yeah, because it's a curved piece of glass.

Speaker 2

So much easier than what he was trying to do, which he got it eventually, but that would be so easy to do.

Speaker 1

Yeah, this is a great opportunity to bring up the bow drill. So what he was doing was just he was using his hands.

Speaker 3

Right.

Speaker 1

And it was fucking his hands up. But there's a better way to do it. And he had the string from the skates. He could have used that and like a bendy piece of wood, like a stick or whatever, and he could have put it around, wrapped it and then use like a sawing motion with like a rock on top of the other stick that's doing the drilling, and just do that back and forth so it doesn't cook your hands.

Speaker 3

Now I wonder if we all agree with this. You already said it he waited far too long, far longer than necessary to make the fire, yeah yeah, um, now he did prioritize covering himself, it was. It was janky, it was just the raft kind of lifted up on a but even then, like why?

Speaker 2

why not get like a couple sticks with palm leaves attached to them to put over you? I mean in the raft like I don't know. I there's just I feel like he really didn't do anything, but we could chalk it up to just the shock of yeah, I also think that he was gonna get rescued.

Speaker 3

I think he he thought he was gonna get rescued, oh yeah definitely because he saw a boat out in the distance.

Speaker 1

So clearly boats go through there, I wonder how many he's seen over the cut if only he had his flares. Huh yeah, if he had his flares or even like if he just had his fire going you know, palm fronds like he was doing like when he got it lit.

Speaker 2

Exactly, fire should have been one of the first priorities for him. It drives me crazy that he waited to like what was.

Speaker 3

It was like night three before he decided to make a fire so here's a a good time to talk about something like this, uh, without the necessity of risking burning down the entire island, uh, what you could do in that situation right, but. But let's just say you know forest fires move quickly, but most of that was wet. So what you could do is you get a lot of wet wood, you build a hot, hot, hot fire and then you start throwing wet wood on it.

Speaker 3

You know what you get, right steam you get dry wood, you get a lot of smoke white smoke, and if you can get white smoke in the air, you're gonna get going to look which the island that he's on is right next to Fiji.

Speaker 1

I looked it up.

Speaker 3

Did you really?

Speaker 1

Yeah, I looked at the island. I'd seen pictures of it. It's a real island.

Speaker 3

So if he would have started burning huge quantities of wet wood, you get large amounts of smoke in the air. So basically, smoke comes when the fire's not burning hot enough.

Speaker 2

You get less smoke when you get a hotter fire because it's burning more of the, Because the particles are going up in the air. But the hotter it is, the less particles are Right.

Speaker 3

So you can do this with all of that wet wood, and he had plenty of wood. It seemed like that island just replenished itself over and over again yeah, that's what I was saying, like the island was was very nice to him, dude I think you definitely had a whole house by fucking four years.

Speaker 2

Yeah, honestly, oh hell yeah with what I saw that he had. I he was living very minimalist, but I I think he took the cave as like natural shelter, so no need to build a house, you know yeah which I agree, I the cave was.

Speaker 1

I would have still pimped the cave out. Awesome, you know.

Speaker 2

I'd have pimped the cave out. Yeah, Fucking Elisa.

Speaker 1

I'd have tried to make torches that's not wet all this time.

Speaker 3

A cot.

Speaker 1

Yeah, something.

Speaker 3

A cot, I would have been sleeping off of the ground.

Speaker 2

But that's also a way he yeah, well, once he, once he started making the fire, then he had the crabs yeah, he was, I think really good yeah.

Speaker 3

So I do want to give a shout out because nerdy vet says uh, very accurate information. Black smoke means man-made stuff is on fire. White smoke is natural stuff is on fire. That's absolutely true. The white smoke means that there's water vapor right, it's water vapor, or steam, as it's uh, burning up, so it's typically organic materials, whereas black smoke often means it's petroleum, rubber, synthetic substances that are burning and it's containing soot and usually toxic chemicals that you don't want to breathe. Now, white smoke could also mean that you're putting out that black smoke or that fire of the materials.

Speaker 1

So it doesn't always mean that, but generally speaking, Speaking of unnatural things, one thing I did bring up for like the 20 minutes. Eric was with me while I was watching it. There's no trash on the beach. The only piece of trash we see float up is the fucking porta potty.

Speaker 1

Four years later, but there's definitely like a lot of trash on beaches. I watch a dude on a freaking YouTube and literally that's how he survives. He's like I'm going out three days, don't got nothing with me other than a knife, and he finds like bottles and freaking broken lighters and stuff that he can use to now start fire.

Speaker 3

I fully agree that generally that's what that means. But you can also make the argument that the reason why nobody found the island he was on is because no currents travel that way in in the ocean, there are areas, and I'd have to look up the name again. There are areas that are called it's a desert, so there's no current, there's no wildlife, there's no um, there's no plankton, no seaweed, so nothing's there.

Wilson and Mental Survival Anchors

Speaker 3

and if you go there with a no, no, well, he, he could be surrounded by something like that because there was a reason why he had such good, abundant life. Uh, there was an ecosystem surrounding that island, but perhaps there was no other than the waves crashing on the beach. There was no current leading things to him, and I'd also I'd also speculate that that was the case because of how hard it was for him once he got past the reef, uh, the outer shore break, once he got out past that it. It wasn't like the, and maybe they just didn't want to show us something like this, but it wasn't like he had, um, abundant help with the currents. Not for a while, because he wasn't like hauling balls, you know, he had that little sail up, which that's.

Speaker 3

That's good, that's what you need. But uh, it didn't show until the storm came up, the first storm, when I was actually happy to see that storm because that started bringing water. But to get back on the island, some of the things that I'd like to point out that he did was really good was prioritizing water. He learned how to store it. Learn is kind of a harsh way to say it, but he figured out rather quickly I have to store this right. Even though he had abundant coconuts, he started storing his water. Of course, I think we all agree that he waited way too long to start a fire.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, it was like four days he was sleeping out in the freaking, just cold yeah.

Speaker 3

Yeah, which is just bizarre because you sleep on the floor.

Speaker 2

typically after a few hours it's sucking body heat from you I would be so cold that's all I was thinking about, honestly this whole movie, is that I'm such a cold person.

Speaker 3

Naturally I I would not be able to and I only believe that from you, tj myself, are not going to be cold on this.

Speaker 1

I guarantee you, it was tropical fucking boiling, I guarantee you which is why I kind of give some play.

Speaker 3

You and I might have done the exact same thing, because we'd be burning in the sunlight all day long.

Speaker 1

Dig a little trench in the sand and lay in that and let it cool you off except if it was me and you, we'd be fine from the sun, really, and then eric, he'd be getting sunburned well, that's, true I I do not get sunburned no really no, I've.

Speaker 2

I've gotten a sunburn like once in my entire life but you're so pasty, I know he's so white.

Speaker 1

Okay, actually you want to see something crazy I noticed this earlier today look at how farmer tan I mean now it kind of looks the same, but look how white my arm is yeah.

Speaker 2

You can really tell it also on my neck and my my like forearms are way.

Speaker 1

He's showing you can't really see it, but they are darker than the fricking yeah.

Speaker 2

It's too blue, but it kind of looks like it's the shadow, but this is just straight up a different color than my chest.

Speaker 1

So shadow, but this is just straight up a different color than my chest. So, um, no, I see that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I wanted to bring up uh rip to the outdoor boys youtube channel. Uh, by the way, oh yeah, I meant to say that is uh, I don't mind being cold, I don't mind sleeping on the floor and I don't mind being hungry, but I only do one of those at once.

Speaker 1

Yep, and I think that's really good advice that was one of my favorite episodes yeah, so you, you know, take care of your shit like it's I would have done. I built a fire, or at least started trying immediately, you know somewhat. I needed somewhat of like shelter because, like they're not, if you still have hope that they're gonna find you dog, they're not gonna find you in dog. They're not going to find you in two hours. It's going to be a minute.

Speaker 3

But now, when he saw the boat that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2

Right away. I'm thinking I'm in survival mode. I'm opening up all those packages right away.

Speaker 1

There's no part of me that's like they'll be here in an hour. Do they find them? They're going to be.

Speaker 2

Where's Marge's package? I don't know Exactly. There's no laws here.

Speaker 1

What are we worried about? Just open them, the plane crash.

Speaker 3

It was open in the plane crash.

Speaker 2

Yeah, there's literally no part of me at all that would not open those packages immediately. Yeah, I would. Also, I'm not going to lie. If I land on an island, I am looking for a cave. I would be looking pretty soon after making a fire. I'll tell you this.

Speaker 3

I wouldn't be looking for a cave right off the bat. You want to make sure that there's no wild boar on the island. They will kill a man.

Speaker 1

I know They'll kill me. I could take at least four.

Speaker 3

Four. Come on now, you could take one for sure.

Speaker 2

I four. Come on now, you can take one for sure. Take at least two and a half. It might gore you, but in this situation I I would be looking for, uh, a cave it was very barren I would be in like immediately, except like crabs immediate survival mode.

Speaker 1

You know like scavenge everything, fucking. You know like when dude's body washed up, I'm taking his clothes, not just his shoes, I'm taking everything off that man.

Speaker 2

That fabric is useful.

Speaker 1

He didn't even use his shoes because he was like, oh, they're too small he did, he cut the soul, he cut the toe off oh, I didn't realize that I mean, eventually they probably wore the fuck out because he was barefoot by the but yeah, no, I'm going in all everything that's all useful stuff, yep, I'll bury him.

Speaker 2

Still, he's getting buried naked though yeah, I would take the clothes, I mean just to cut up the pants or and like cut up the stuff to use it for other things if needed. Now you know, real, real, dark, real quick, real dark, real quick.

Speaker 1

You guys have both said and I agree make some fishing line and then use parts of him to catch fish oh, oh, my God, it's true.

Speaker 3

It's so gross, but it's true. It's so gross, but like you gotta do what you gotta do, bro, you know, and frankly speaking, I think the point was made too, because wasn't there crabs on the?

Speaker 1

body. Josh, thanks for the it's corn.

Speaker 2

I don't think so.

Speaker 1

And the hurt me there wasn't.

Speaker 3

I don't think so. I thought there was crabs nearby the body when he went and got it.

Speaker 1

Because that's what they would eat. Coconut crabs ate. Amelia Earhart, that is a theory. That's one of the theories, yeah.

Speaker 2

Coconut crabs are insane. No crab needs to be that big.

Speaker 1

Isn't that disgusting? That is horrifying. He really thought he could just eat a crab, just raw, though.

Speaker 3

Wasn't that nuts yeah.

Speaker 2

But that's why I was like, when he caught it, I was like make a fire. And then he like pulled the arm apart and was watching all the goo and I'm like make a fire.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's such an easy solution, it's right there and then, to bring up that end bit again, when he got back they gave the dude who was trapped on an island crab fucking seafood, when that's all he was eating.

Speaker 3

It was very interesting to me sushi and crab.

Speaker 1

That's what they gave this man yep what was you know?

Speaker 2

give me a hamburger his service.

Speaker 3

Yeah, for real, those were all his favorite foods before this event. It would have been nice to have been like hey, what, what do you want to eat? Man, you've had've had what. What have you been eating on that island? Crab fish. Yeah, what do you want to eat? We're going to get you anything you want, because I'm with you guys. I'd be like fucking barbecue ribs, beef ribs, a hamburger.

Speaker 2

I will say there's got to be a very massive difference between crabs caught on an island, cooked on a fire, versus steamed alaskan king crab king crab like good with butter sauce. I think that's very different. It might be, but I, but I understand what you mean like I don't want to eat that I what I would want. I'm like I would be like iron man coming out of the cave. I want a good, old-fashioned american cheeseburger. Yeah, that's what I want yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3

Yeah. Yeah, no, definitely so what do you think about his, his tool making? I mean, he used those ice skates.

Speaker 1

Those saved his life, dude. Yeah, if he didn't get those, he was cooked.

Speaker 3

Now, as far as saving his life, how important do you think that that was for him to knock his own tooth out?

Speaker 1

I that was pretty nuts right oh it's either like it fucking rots out his face, or he knocks it out and maybe it gets infected. I would rather just knock it out. You know that's okay, I couldn't I I would rather just keep gargling salt water like you got right, because you saw he had abundant salt water all around I think, I think I have some sort of maybe not a phobia, but I have something with with teeth, because I hate it so much.

Speaker 2

Okay, you want a teeth story. I got a teeth story. No, don't, I'm not kidding, I will stop listening.

Speaker 1

So when I was a kid, I had cavities in my teeth.

Speaker 2

I genuinely did.

Speaker 1

And they put, like the silver caps on them right, it makes me want to faint, and it was my whole bottom row and my whole top row on both sides, and some of them fell out normally because they were on my baby teeth, but there were some of them that were kind of just stuck in there and they were small enough that they could fit into a tab of a Coke can. Like one of these, you know, and I put it in there. Nope, I don't like that and I just went and ripped it out did. I had to do that a couple times you guess what man?

Speaker 1

I got that tooth fairy money.

Speaker 2

You are wrong I'm not a bitch when it comes to pain, really I, I can't, I, I'm not for those who can't see eric took off his headphones and refused to listen to how I ripped my tooth out when I was a kid. Stop the pain doesn't bother me. It's not the pain, it's the teeth.

Speaker 1

I get it. It's like rubbing styrofoam together or like nails on a chalkboard type feeling.

Speaker 3

it's worse than that in my opinion, that's a great example, because that's how I felt when I heard the ice skate touch his tooth.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, dude, it just sent shit all over my spine.

Speaker 2

I couldn't watch that scene. It made me want to faint.

Speaker 1

Oh shit, but like dude, you got to do what you got to do.

Speaker 3

That is true. I couldn't do it that that is true. I couldn't do it. I wouldn't be able to do it. I think uh nerdy says in the chat and I think he's right the abscess would have eventually caused him, uh, caused his, his demise yeah, I couldn't do it, so you it's either that or you know I would rather not die a fucking jaw rotting out I'm not kidding.

Speaker 2

this movie just made me realize I just need to book a dentist appointment because I can never do this, ever, ever so guys.

Speaker 1

So I told Eric this Alex, did you know that there's a company called Do Castaway, that you can pay them and they will drop you off on an island to do castaway Shit? We've got to do castaway dude.

Speaker 2

Do they give you a volleyball?

Speaker 1

they do not, but we can bring our own volleyball that's bullshit.

Speaker 2

Do they sprinkle fedex packages around?

Speaker 1

I mean you guys can get uh soccer balls, because that's more your people's thing. I'll get a uh basketball. Geez, look at this guy that's funny.

Speaker 3

Spalding, that's good, that's good spalding wait a minute. They would all be spalding, wouldn't they? That's funny, aren't soccer balls also spalding. I think a minute they would all be Spalding wouldn't they?

Speaker 1

That's funny. Aren't soccer balls also, spalding? I think they make. I think Wilson also makes basketballs and soccer balls and I think Spalding. Jose, jose I'm going to look up Spalding.

Speaker 2

No, no, no, no, no, mi amigo Spalding this no, no, no, no, mi amigo.

Speaker 1

Spalding oh yeah, they make volleyball, soccer balls.

Speaker 3

So what do you think about his I'm going to call it mental stamina?

Speaker 1

It took him about a week before he started talking to a ball.

Speaker 2

I don't blame him.

Speaker 3

Was it only a week it was like not that long, because it was when he was making a fire and the.

Speaker 1

He was like three, like three or four days he was like sleeping with no fire and then, like it was that next day it was like a week before he like cut himself and then grabbed the ball and then threw it I have made the face it was like a week.

Speaker 2

That reaction when he made the fire, that is the reaction of any male. I agree.

Speaker 3

Who makes a fire? I completely agree 100.

Speaker 2

I was like I feel that on a primal level, that is exactly how I would react.

Speaker 3

I'd be doing all that too there's another reaction that he did that I completely understood and I think every male would understand it?

Speaker 2

Is it when he cut his hand?

Speaker 3

No, oh, I got that one. I think it was when he was planning his escape, planning leaving and counting the rope. We just don't have enough. We're going to have to find more rope.

Speaker 1

I know where there's 30 feet of extra rope. I know.

Speaker 3

I'm not going to go up there. I'm not going to go up there, I'm not gonna go up there. And then he goes up there. Cuts to him up there already which, because I think every guy has been in that situation where no, I'm not going to do this. I'm not gonna do it and you know you have to, you know. You know there's no other option.

Speaker 1

You're going to do it so then you gotta, you gotta do it, or else you're just cooked.

Speaker 2

No, I think I think the one I really understood, like when he was trying to make the fire and his hand slipped and he cut it open on the on the stick and he fucking lost it yeah I get that.

Speaker 1

He was he was fucking himself up in them early days. He, he sliced his leg open. He busted his tooth out.

Speaker 2

After the coral stabbing into his leg. And then he gets back and he's trying to make a fire and he cuts his hand open. That frustration, oh, I felt that where I'm at work and I'm already irritated about how much I have left to do. And then I cut my hand on a door and I'm like work, and I'm already irritated about how much I have left to do. And then I cut my hand on a door and I'm like, oh okay.

Speaker 2

And then I keep going and I jam, I slam my finger into something and I'm like I'm gonna fucking lose it. I was cleaning the tops of crates and they have these bolts that stick out and I was like cutting up my cuticles. All over time I'd hit it. I was just at one point I straight up slammed my fist frustrated I slammed my fist on the top of the crate and I'm like I'm gonna fucking lose my mind right now if I cut my finger one more time yeah, so there were a couple of things.

Speaker 3

I think he used a couple of things as anchors. One was the locket, one was was Wilson Um? One was counting the days. He actually started marking all of the days on the cave wall, remember.

Speaker 2

Yeah, you kind of going off of that. Something that I found really interesting is that I am a. I am the type of person to. This might make me sound crazy, but I'm the type of person to kind of talk to myself at times. Um, not this might make me sound crazy, but I'm the type of person to kind of talk to myself at times, not in like a crazy way, but in like a thinking out loud kind of way. I hope not a crazy way, but I don't. I think it would be really easy to fall into silence on the island and I think that's how Wilson kind of helped was to make him talk, talk, um.

Speaker 2

but I found it interesting when he was like doing math and counting and keeping that kind of civilized part of his brain active and working right, um, by like counting how many sticks he was going to need, how much rope he was going to need.

Speaker 3

Doing all that math in his head, he was talking to himself and also wilson working it all out, and so I definitely think that was a big part of it. The the other thing don't worry about it, because anybody who's actually crazy doesn't know that they're crazy. What wait? Who said that? Shut?

Speaker 1

up fucking. Uh, I did think it was very, um very smart of him. There's that little piece of light that crept through into the cave ah, yeah he, he used to mark out months, so if the light's over here, that means it's january.

Speaker 3

If it's over here, that's september I did not yeah wow yeah, it went all the way up the cave wall this way, then around and back down the other way.

Speaker 1

That's very smart. He was a fucking smart dude, I think also at the beginning he was.

Speaker 3

It showed his like he had awards for like shit, like that something to do with sailing, I think yeah so, dude, he was smart, he had, he had knowledge no, for real dude was smart, but the thing that uh one of our our uh tiktok friends in the chat had said he hadn't done a day's work, you know, meaning he wasn't an outdoorsy kind of guy, right, he probably had no calluses on his hands when he went on that island.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 3

Which I definitely think. I'm waiting for my kids to be older, because one of the things that I want to start doing with them is going out camping. Oh, back in the day, what we did was backpacking. You get like emergency rations, that's it Fishing rod, small amounts of things. Right, as little as you can, because you got to carry it all, and of course, I would have to carry it all, and then they would carry their little backpacks and you basically just wear what you wear.

Speaker 2

With their fruit snacks.

Speaker 3

With their fruit snacks. You know little things right. You wear what you wear and you have to do everything right. Because we do have bears. So you have to hang your food up in a tree away from any branches so that no bears can actually get it. You have the food downwind of you and you have to be aware that the wind can change on you so you don't want to wind up being upwind where the bear is gonna not be able to get the food and then walk into and find you um found food.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I think, I think we literally need to like all go camping with like minimal shit, like we get small fishing rod, a pharaoh rod, a sleeping bag, a tent, a knife.

Speaker 2

Guys, we live in 2025. Nah, dog.

Speaker 1

I want to go out to the middle of the woods and let's see what we could do within like four days. No definitely.

Speaker 3

I always brought emergency rations, like those crappy, you know those chalky lemon bar things. I always brought those because it's the last thing you're actually going to want to eat.

Speaker 3

You would rather and I think most people who've ever eaten that kind of crap or mres right you have the uh, the beef mac and cheese, which is probably the only edible one, and everything else is just disgusting. So most people that I knew with the mres or the emergency rations would rather be hungry than eat that crap, especially because the lemon bars make you so damn thirsty and you don't want to be drinking all your water just because you're thirsty. So I'd rather be hungry than thirsty or eating garbage. So you carry it with you just to make sure that you don't go absolutely hungry, but it really does give you the incentive to what do they call it? Put on your try-hard pants.

Speaker 2

I actually would find it very fun for us to all get out to the forest and kind of like TJ said, just to see what we could do Also just a GoPro with like 20 batteries.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it'd be kind of cool.

Speaker 2

Fucking film it, because I feel like we would very quickly. I am pretty actually confident that we would very quickly get the necessities figured out, the essentials, and then at that point it's like what do we build, what do we do?

Speaker 1

also no tent, let's build a giant fire, let's fuck around.

Speaker 3

Yeah, no tent no tent, just sleeping bag you know, I don't even think I would do a sleeping bag, I think I would do a hammock.

Speaker 2

I think, yeah, bring in a tarp and then we could create like a kind of teepee or like a kind of long teepee kind of house thing and then use the tarp to cover it for protection from rain.

Speaker 3

But that's it. Yeah, otherwise I would. I would prefer a hammock. I want to be off the ground but even then we can.

Speaker 2

Um, I mean, I've seen you can get sticks and mud and leaves to create a sort of roof that'll protect you from rain yeah, you can.

Speaker 1

I mean there's what he should have done. He should have gotten the palm leaves, and he should have gotten like I don't know a lot of his fucking, just dirt, wet sand, whatever the fuck. Paste it all that shit.

Speaker 2

A lot of his buildings were very minimalistic, um, but like I said, I think he was really relying on the cave oh yeah, ultimate shelter which is why I me personally I would have gone the route of burning right, Fire, fire, fire.

Psychological Aspects of Isolation

Speaker 3

I would have been burning all the wet stuff that I could, making as much smoke, as much visible noise. If you will Right, Look over here. Look over here, Because shipping captains, when you're going over, one thing that you're not used to seeing is fire out in the middle of the ocean yeah you see smoke, it's gonna draw attention. What's? Over there um, nothing's supposed to be over there. We need to see that's a fire you know 100 fires don't break out in the middle of the ocean.

Speaker 2

It's a ship, it's a an island, and I think he would have been found if he would have just went fucking crazy, you know even if he, if he just had a fire on that first time that that boat came by at night, if he just had a fire, then he could have definitely signaled them okay, okay, josh, all right, you must acknowledge the josh and the josh says I'm in on this camping trip that, that a four people would be great well, nerdy vet says too.

Speaker 3

I say a bunch of us do the camping. Do you think that you got with?

Speaker 1

the uh the chick at the end. I hope so, I hope so I think that's what they're building up towards because, if you noticed, because she was so in him in uh in russia she was her husband was cheating on her right.

Speaker 3

Yep.

Speaker 1

And then at their little farm they had it was like his name and her name, and then when it was the end, one of the names were cut out, so I think bitch is single shit. Like hey, you saved my life girl.

Speaker 2

Okay, hold on. Here's a way she was talking to him.

Speaker 3

Nerdy added something which is really cool here. Nerdyvet says I say a bunch of us do the camping with a $60 budget and we make a bug out bag.

Speaker 2

Ooh, that'd be interesting, That'd be very fun.

Speaker 1

Real question If we turned Wilson around, do you think there's a little hole cutting it?

Speaker 2

What are you saying right now? Damn, not at first, dude.

Speaker 3

Not at first, but tell me. Not at first, but do you think?

Speaker 1

That thing was flat later. Do you think that if we?

Speaker 3

turn.

Speaker 1

Wilson around there's a hole, maybe like an inch maybe two wide I don't know. He seemed a little distraught. Yo, he had a volleyball at the end, bro, he misses it.

Speaker 3

Wilson was deflated towards the end.

Speaker 2

I would like to. I hear what you're saying, I'm understanding, I'm picking up what you're putting down. I'm going to say God, I hope not, because that feels, I imagine would feel very painful.

Speaker 3

He flips it around and calls it Kelly.

Speaker 1

Yeah, whilst looking at the picture that he drew on the wall.

Speaker 2

Right With that hairstyle on Wilson. That kind of looked like really weird Michael.

Speaker 1

Jackson.

Speaker 3

It was so bad, that was so funny.

Speaker 1

She's much prettier in real life. Why'd you even draw her? You got a picture right there.

Speaker 2

I know I'm like he has a picture right there, but I mean, I guess, to fill time you know, sometimes someone gets lonely.

Speaker 3

Yeah, that's why.

Speaker 1

He literally had a volleyball in his front seat at the end bro, I definitely think he was doing whatever he needed.

Speaker 3

And see, I think that's probably the hardest part to acknowledge is you have to know? I think it was old school Clint Eastwood who was quoted as saying a man's got to know his limitations.

Speaker 1

No, that wasn't Clint Eastwood, that was the Duke. A man's got to do what a man's got to do.

Speaker 3

That was the Duke A man's gotta do. That was the day a man's gotta know his limitations right. So you gotta know when your mind is about to snap and you gotta do whatever you have to do. And I think this guy was a good depiction of that when, when he was pushing himself too far, if you will, he did whatever was necessary to make himself level again, if that makes sense yeah, I think I know what you mean.

Speaker 2

I like you. I think you called them anchors earlier. I think that's a good word for it. There was wilson was definitely one of them. Um, I think I probably also would have taken maybe about a week to start talking to the football. I don't know, I would like to think, maybe a little bit longer no.

Speaker 3

I would have been talking right away.

Speaker 1

This could have gone way darker out. He could have just started talking to the dead body.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I'm very glad that the dead body did what was done with it. Can we bring up a past?

Speaker 3

episode.

Speaker 1

That was the Night Eats the World. I thought you were going to bring up warm bodies.

Speaker 3

No, that was the Night Eats the World Fucking French people. That girl broke in, he blasted her, but in his mind she was alive. Until he went back in the room and saw like oh no, none of this happened.

Speaker 2

So how does that relate, though? What do you?

Speaker 3

So if Chuck would have gone and started talking to the body like oh yeah, okay, he would imagine him alive, imagine like I feel like that would have been a yeah, fucking crazier movie.

Speaker 2

It would have been a much darker tone, I think let's get a.

Speaker 1

Let's get a psychological thriller fucking Castaway with Tom Hanks as he is now.

Speaker 3

Older Tom Hanks. Chuck Nolan gets stuck again, that'd be hilarious.

Speaker 2

Oh my God, castaway 2.

Speaker 1

That'd be so messed up, that'd be a crazy movie.

Speaker 3

You guys both agree. I think I agree with you too, Castaway 2 would have been crazy.

Speaker 1

I understood Chuck's reasoning for not opening the packages right away.

Speaker 3

The crazy movie. You guys both agree. I think I agree with you too. I understood. I understood chuck's reasoning for not opening the packages right away. But I think I agree with with you guys in the more logical thing to do. You're in this situation. I'm opening up packages. The second I get them.

Speaker 1

I'm using everything at my disposal like exactly cardboard and the fucking bubble wrap which he did use.

Speaker 2

He used the bubble wrap to like address his leg wound and whatever yeah, but which I I kind of like that I I don't think I would have used bubble wrap, but that's, that's interesting now I will tell you something that I I did not fully understand, and now I get it.

Speaker 3

Um, did you know that cauterizing a wound is not necessarily the right thing to do? Even if you're bleeding quite a bit, you can cause infection by doing it.

Speaker 2

Well, you got to clean it first right, and then you cauterize it.

Speaker 3

He couldn't clean it. So, you got to let it bleed, so it pusses and removes the infection.

Speaker 2

Because I mean, that's kind of the thing with cauterizing is that if you seal it and it has all that bacteria in it, you've just sealed it all in the wound.

Speaker 1

Right. So yeah, you do have to clean it first and then you cauterize it as much as it would hurt. You got to just go in the ocean right there and just fucking scrub it.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I mean, he did try, didn't he Like he got?

Speaker 1

salt water on it, but I don't know that he he clearly didn't die of an infection, Right. So you know he did something, right.

Speaker 2

That was something I was thinking about Between the tooth, the hand and the leg. I can't believe he didn't die of infection at some point.

Speaker 3

See if it was me, a Gen X raising man, who rubbed some dirt on it.

Speaker 2

I'm not going to lie. I've had some bad cuts on some really nasty things at work. I've had some nasty water get uh, splashed up in my eyes and my mouth and whatnot, and fluids that I don't I like to imagine. I don't know what it is and just keep on moving we're gonna pretend they're not dog fluids, it's just. I don't know what it is just dirt, just dirt, just dirt uh and I've yet to like get any crazy illness or infection or whatnot.

Speaker 2

I sliced my thumb so good on one of our drain grates.

Speaker 3

Floor drain.

Speaker 2

Yeah, an outdoor yard drain, grate. It's where all the poop, vomit and pee goes over it when it goes into the drain. I sliced my fingers so good on that and I washed that shit so much. And when you guys were I think a previous episode we were talking about I was like if I had a deep wound, I just put a bunch of alcohol on it. And you guys were like, oh you, I think you underestimate how much that would hurt. And I was like the alternative is lose your hand so I'm like I was spraying my hand out is that gash?

Speaker 1

I think he could have used uh charcoal from the fire to that's.

Speaker 3

That's a good point too shoving that guy just looked it up and said it is used for it is in wounds, sometimes because it interesting. It helps with bacteria or whatever it absorbs the bacteria and, yeah, it prevents your body from absorbing it. It is more absorbent than your body, so it goes to the charcoal I wonder if that would give him like a tattoo, that's it.

Speaker 3

I mean, like after it heals you make a really good point, though, with all the wood that he would be burning if we were out in a in a woods scenario like this. We're near a stream. Uh, I'm already of the opinion. We've talked about this on the podcast.

Speaker 3

You don't take water out of a stream without boiling it, filtering it, filtering it and boiling it, and the reason why is because you don't know what's upstream, unless you get to the mouth of the spring. If you find the mouth of the spring, you can drink directly out of that and it'll be perfectly safe. But anything else that you don't know where the source is, you don't want to do that now, is it true that you should drink at like, um, like.

Speaker 2

Not when I say waterfall, don't think huge, but like little drop-offs in the river. Is that the best spot to get the water?

Speaker 3

it's the most convenient spot, but it's in anywhere that there's an upstream. You're gonna have the same situation. You want to filter and boil and if we were in this situation out in the woods like that, we'd be burning wood. You'd have plenty of charcoal you have. What you would want to do is deprived oxygen setting. You make small amounts of of little twigs. Stuff like that fill into like think like an altoids container that are just a fucking punch.

Speaker 1

A couple of holes in it a coke. Can something like that fill into like think like an altoids container? That are just a fucking punch a couple of holes in it, a coke can something like that?

Speaker 3

just a couple of holes in it. Set it right in the fire, let it burn for hour and a half. You pull that out, you get the uh, the charcoal out. You crumble it all up. That's your filter. You can put that, wrap that in a cloth, put it at the bottom of a two liter bottle and pour all the water in. Let it filter right on out.

Speaker 1

It'll be nice and clean and if you had no fire you could drink that in his case, I would be collecting all the water off of, like the runoff from the mountain whenever it rained that that like it was pouring into the cave and such you know.

Speaker 3

But didn't he use leaves? Didn't he like drink out of leaves?

Speaker 1

yeah and coconuts yeah, but I would definitely have like a very intricate water collection system if I was.

Speaker 3

I agree, I agree. It would have, and I don't know he must have because they didn't bring coconuts.

Speaker 1

Right and he just like poked holes in them.

Speaker 2

I think he was just meat in there.

Speaker 3

I think how did he get the meat cups.

Speaker 1

Oh, because he had fully sealed coconuts that just had a hole on top. How do you get the meat out of there? I feel like that would start to ferment and get gross.

The Return to Civilization

Speaker 3

It would, and he definitely would have had to get the meat out. I mean, I could sit there. He had nothing but time on his hands. Right, you get a nice solid stick, get it inside and start grinding up the meat and pulling it out and eating it. And you're just taking your time to pull it out and then you take it, go down to the ocean and wash it out with the salt water as much as you can, and then fresh water rinse and you're ready to go yeah that's I mean you're just talking about.

Speaker 3

He had four years, nothing but time that?

Speaker 2

that's kind of the thing I think about. Is he? He had nothing else to do except survive, which is why I think it's crazy that he waited as long as he did to make a fire. But yeah, he had nothing but time on his hands, like that's why I think it'd be interesting for all of us to get out into the woods and just start doing shit, because I think I think we would get the essentials out of the way pretty quickly, and then at that point it's just we got all this time. What are we going to do?

Speaker 3

So that moves on to the next point that I'd like to make. That I think is really important in a survival situation like this is another psychological anchor is developing a routine. You've got to create a routine for yourself because you can't just sit, you can't just that's like I don't know if you know this, this uh rumor, but polar bears run themselves to the point of absolute zero energy left. If they don't catch food, they dig a hole in the snow, lay in it and die. And I think if you're in this kind of a situation, you have that risk that you're just going to lay down and accept your fate. Now, I don't think that's. I don't take that lightly and I don't say that easily that you're just going to literally lie down but you're giving up If you don't develop a routine for yourself and give yourself checklists, items to do, chores.

Speaker 3

If you will, you have to give yourself things to do and it has to be relevant, important stuff towards your survival to keep you going, and you have to do it right. You have to keep making fire every day. You can't let that fire go out. You have to keep you going and you have to do it right. You have to keep making fire every day. You can't let that fire go out. You have to keep filling it up. You got to keep going and collecting more wood. You have to keep collecting water. You have to keep getting your food. So it's getting those. Developing those routines is gonna ensure your survival for longer. Wow, is that the island?

Speaker 1

That is, do cast away, that's a company that sends you 150 euros a night. That's 170 dollars per night. 170 times 3 if we were to stay 3 nights, that's 510 dollars For all 3 of us. 510 dollars times 3, that's 1500 dollars. Y'all got 1500 dollars. Let's go do cast Away real quick.

Speaker 3

Let's go real quick. Let's go to Indonesia, cause that's. Let's go do Castaway real quick.

Speaker 1

Let's go to Indonesia, because that's where that one is.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's not even including the plane flight.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2

Isolation level high. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

Speaker 3

I think there's some good spots between here and Washington.

Speaker 1

I'm pretty sure there's plenty of islands in Washington also.

Speaker 2

I was imagining I thought you were talking about islands and I was like I think there's a lot of land in between.

Speaker 3

What I would say about going all the way up to Washington. I will admit I am completely ignorant of the wildlife and the terrain.

Speaker 1

We've got deer, we've got bears, you guys have grizzlies, huh.

Speaker 2

They got grizzlies.

Speaker 1

yeah, We've got rabbits and shit.

Speaker 3

It's pretty much it.

Speaker 1

It's just those three animals.

Speaker 3

Do you have black bears and grizzlies? I? Think we only have Let me look, I think it would be primarily grizzlies. I think the black are isolated to California and maybe lower Oregon.

Speaker 2

I'm glad we have black bears.

Speaker 3

Lazy fucks Black and grizzly bears.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it could be far worse.

Speaker 3

You have both Shit.

Speaker 1

Eh not that bad.

Speaker 3

Just remember if you can't cover a grizzly with your thumb, you're too close.

Speaker 1

I can take on at least three.

Speaker 2

Play dead with a grizzly. Be loud with a black bear.

Speaker 1

You guys have wild chicken up there uh, I fucking never seen one, do we I?

Speaker 3

don't know, that's what I'm. I'm reading here on the chat nerdy says so squirrels, but I think squirrels are everywhere in the union, grouse. Okay, the one that I learned from um, from luke, of the outdoor boys, is, uh, ptarmigan yeah, which that looked like a tasty little bird, man.

Speaker 1

He made that up.

Speaker 3

Little 22.

Outro and Future Plans

Speaker 1

We're, we're, we're everybody listening, you can tell we're getting tired, so I think it's time yeah. We are really just talking about random shit For for the announcement of the winner, before I announce who the winner is. Boys, what's your next movie?

Speaker 2

man, you know what I don't like? The way that you choose the winner.

Speaker 3

I'm not picking a movie I'm definitely going to be picking a zombie movie. I was looking over a whole bunch on amazon prime and my problem was I couldn't decide which one I think I want to make you guys watch. Uh, I think it's just called zombie apocalypse it's the one that has ving rames in it. It is like it is really, really good for being a really bad movie, but it's like they were just. They were just dollars short of it being an extremely good movie.

Speaker 3

So you get to see what the difference in budget does to a movie. But Ving Rhames really carries the cast.

Speaker 1

Okay, yeah.

Speaker 3

Alex, would you like to?

Speaker 1

give our socials.

Speaker 3

Yes, everybody, make sure you go check us out on our socials on tiktok, instagram, facebook, youtube, rumble I always forget about rumble. We do have a rumble. I don't know what's on it. Haven't done anything to it. Sorry about that, but everything is under. Will you survive the podcast? Just give us a search. You can find us on x by searching at alex and eric. Sorry, tj, that was made a long time ago and we haven't restarted it. It's okay. Please, when you go to our socials, help us out. Go check out the profiles, look at the videos, like, follow, share. Do all of that good stuff. Help us reach the masses. You don't want to miss out on this information. It could save your life. If you're out stuck on a deserted island somewhere, you'll be like, hey wait, I remember I listened to that podcast. Will you survive the podcast?

Speaker 2

and we'll be there with you yeah, when you're on the island, you can just put on our episodes because you have them downloaded on your phone, obviously, clearly, and then you'll be able to listen to all of our episodes while you're stranded on a desert island.

Speaker 3

That's what I meant.

Speaker 1

Eric, who do you think won?

Speaker 2

I feel pretty confident. I think I won Alex. Who do you think?

Speaker 1

won.

Speaker 3

Clearly I won. I read that long-ass storyline. I tried keeping you guys on point the whole time true. I was trying to keep us off point and I read those socials like a master.

Speaker 1

Eric winner speech.

Speaker 3

Oh, wow, wow the guy who defied you and wouldn't even he respects that oh you, son of a bit Josh.

Speaker 2

What did he say?

Speaker 3

I give three points to Eric for being a rebel.

Speaker 2

Let's go Wow, you kind of got, you kind of lost by a landslide, yeah, crazy.

Speaker 1

No, I didn't. Who wants to?

Speaker 2

see Eric sleeping. I appreciate the win. I won't let you down, coach.

Speaker 3

You've already let him down. They had us in the first half.

Speaker 2

TJ has pictures of me sleeping. That's not true. And yeah, I'm not 100% sure what we're going to do do next week, but I do have some stuff planned, so I just have to pick from something.

Speaker 3

But yes, thank you for the win, appreciate it so just so you know, nerdy, if you were in the constitution it would matter, but as it is, only I can be grateful for what you tried to do here.

Speaker 2

Nerdy says 10 to alex for knowing survival stuff yeah, and I should try, nerdy, I know survival stuff too.

Speaker 3

You don't know, dick. Thank you all for listening to today's episode.

Speaker 1

It has been a blast. It is very hot in this room. I'm in. I am sweating fucking balls. It is going to be 90 degrees tomorrow. That's hotter than where you guys are.

Speaker 2

We had like 100 recently.

Speaker 1

We did.

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Yeah, it was like 90 today.

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I just looked up the weather for y'all. It's going to be fucking like 80s, anyways 78 actually it's going to be so hot 78 tomorrow. Thank you, all for listening. This has been the Will you Survive podcast. It has. Make sure you do check us out on all of those socials and other listening platforms and make sure to rate us on spotify. It really does help. They will. Um and yeah, until next time. Stay alive and don't hit your tooth out with the ice skate and if you are stranded, make a fire. Thank you.

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