Will You Survive... The Podcast
Immerse yourself in the world of cinema as we embark on a journey to equip you with the skills to tackle any disaster head-on. Through the lens of thrilling tales, particularly those of the zombie apocalypse, we'll unravel the secrets of preparedness. Join us as we explore the silver screen to empower you for the challenges that lie ahead.
Will You Survive... The Podcast
Tarp = Map? Survival Word Association Challenge
Dive into the minds of our survival podcast hosts as they abandon their usual movie reviews for a hilarious word association challenge that reveals just how differently we all think about survival concepts.
The premise seems simple enough: one host thinks of a survival-related word while the others try to guess it, receiving numerical ratings for each guess. But what unfolds is a fascinating exploration of how our brains make connections—sometimes logical, sometimes bewildering—between survival concepts and equipment.
When "map" becomes the target word, confusion reaches epic proportions. Despite hints about forests, trees, and wood, the logical progression (wood becomes paper becomes map) remains elusive to our frustrated guessers. This moment perfectly encapsulates how survival thinking requires connecting dots in unexpected ways. Other targets like "shelter," "heat," "two-way radio," and "antibiotics" create similar challenges, with each revealing something about our hosts' unique approaches to survival logic.
Beyond the laughs, this episode offers genuine insight into how survival experts categorize and prioritize equipment and concepts. The highest ratings consistently go to fundamental survival elements—the things you'd actually need first in a crisis—while specialized equipment often receives lower scores unless directly related to the target word.
Whether you're a survival enthusiast looking to test your own knowledge or simply enjoy listening to three friends descend into increasingly desperate guessing strategies, this episode delivers both entertainment and subtle education. Give it a listen, then ask yourself: would your mind have made the connections needed to survive this game?
Hello survivors, and welcome to another episode of Will you Survive, the Podcast. Today I wanted to switch it up, guys. I feel like I'm the host who does games the most and I said screw it, let's not watch a movie. That was totally intentional and not at all, because I kept forgetting to pick a movie and send it to you guys. That would be irresponsible and I'm not like that. Joining me for this game that I will announce later are my two co-hosts, alex and TJ.
Speaker 2:I'm Alex.
Speaker 3:I am TJ.
Speaker 2:He is TJ. You put the emphasis on the wrong syllable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he really did. He like Christopher Walken. Did you know what Christopher Walken does?
Speaker 3:he emphasizes every wrong word you know I can't do a Christopher Walken.
Speaker 1:I don't know how I can't do it either it's crazy he puts it all in the wrong it's wrong it's kind of weird.
Speaker 2:I just got a weird speech impediment.
Speaker 3:I can't do it either, but he's. It's crazy. He puts it all in the wrong.
Speaker 4:It's wrong the way he does it, it's all wrong I don't know, it's kind of weird.
Speaker 3:It's kind of weird. I just got a weird speech impediment when I try to do his voice.
Speaker 2:I don't know who you're talking to.
Speaker 3:Shout out Christopher Walken, you're talking to me all wrong, instead of being the.
Speaker 1:None of us have a good Christopher Walken. He's a tough one. You know, I think we should stop trying, Christopher. So this game, I am stealing this premise. It's been all over TikTok, but there's one particular podcast that I should have done my research and figured out their name. Who is those two funny guys? You know those two funny guys on TikTok Bobby Lee. You know them?
Speaker 3:No, not those guys. Is it the black and black one, or is it the slightly Mexican white one?
Speaker 2:That one. He said the black and black one.
Speaker 3:What the fuck is that one called?
Speaker 1:Yeah, he always says crazy shit. You know who I'm talking about, right?
Speaker 3:Yeah, there's the one video where he was talking about how his daughter Frankie Frankie, frankie and oh, I don't know the other guy's name.
Speaker 1:Frankie says crazy shit, but the podcast, if TJ finds it yeah. Mostly stealing the premise from them. Oh no, I've also seen another group. I've seen it all over TikTok.
Speaker 3:I'm realizing I've seen a lot of different TikToks. If everybody's doing it, it's a completely original idea and if anybody has a fucking issue with it, they could take it up with me absolutely.
Speaker 1:uh, tj will fight you and then make out with you. So the premise of this game is that I will have a word picked in my head and you will say a whatever word comes to your mind, and your goal is to guess the word that is in my head. With every guess that you make, I will give that word a rating from one to a hundred, and one meaning you're very far from the answer and a hundred meaning that is the answer. So, for instance, let's say the word is ocean and you say water, I might say 90. And then let's say you say I don't know chlorine. Well then I'm going to say probably like two. So it's more based off of my subjective judgment of how I, how I'm associating things.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Um, but that's part of the fun and that's part of you guys to try and figure out what the hell I'm thinking, so do we understand it's going to be tough. Yeah, I think I get it. Um so, basically I worry for you, Alex, because TJ and I share a brain cell sometimes.
Speaker 2:You guys share.
Speaker 1:I'll try to say you guys share a brain cell between you two and they're both fighting for third place, yeah, well, so I'm thinking of yeah, that's exactly what's happening, by the way, alex. So how do we want to do this, guys? Do we want to make this competitive or do we want to just kind of do this collaboratively?
Speaker 4:I don't know how I feel like if we?
Speaker 3:I don't know, did you already have words picked out?
Speaker 1:So, yes, I have words picked out. I have a bunch of different categories. I doubt we're going to get to all of them, but so let's start with one when we'll do each of you separately the Basement.
Speaker 3:Yard.
Speaker 1:Podcast, those guys.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they've done this. It took me so long because my whole podcast is full of true crime and just to uh.
Speaker 2:Just to uh circle back to one of the commenters. Nerdy vet says worst game ever due to laziness lol what do you mean?
Speaker 3:yo minus one point to that guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what the fuck that guy. Whoever that guy is. Now I waited to say this, but just FYI, do you know that chlorine is highly associated with ocean water? How?
Speaker 3:Salt. How is that chlorine Sodium?
Speaker 2:chloride, sodium chloride.
Speaker 1:Oh well, see, you have to know that I'm dumb, so you're gonna have to figure that out I get it.
Speaker 2:I'm getting it because I feel like you would actually maybe figure out that I would not know that I was trying to to think when you you gave a good example, because this is based on and you said your subjective knowledge of the subject, because it was like wait, but as I'm sitting here thinking, you said chlorine is a two, so I'm trying to decipher what you mean by that. I'm like, oh, you have no idea that chlorine is derived from the ocean.
Speaker 1:So I'm gonna throw you guys off with stuff like that, because these are all survival themed and, as we know, out of the three of us, I know the least about survival. Okay, so this is going to be awesome for you guys. Somebody says, I immediately think of 21 pilots okay, no, well, I, I was thinking pools and I was like I'm trying to get you away from I get that towards ocean.
Speaker 2:I get that now. Now I'm, I'm, I'm jiving, I'm following, wait, what is the word? I'm vibing? Is that right? I'm with it.
Speaker 1:I'm hip, did I use it? Is that right Vibing? Yeah, sure, that's a vibe.
Speaker 2:All right, that's a vibe.
Speaker 1:Are we ready?
Speaker 2:Got a vibe All righty, all right, so.
Speaker 1:So we'll start with doing it individually, and then we'll see how long each one takes. And then maybe we'll start just doing them together. Alex, you're first, let's see. So. This first category is basic needs Basic needs.
Speaker 2:Yes so.
Speaker 1:I have it in my mind.
Speaker 2:Okay, this is kind of a not quite 20 questions, right? Like do I just make a guess or do I ask questions?
Speaker 1:You just make a guess.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right.
Speaker 1:Basic needs the knowledge that you're going to get is my response to your answer.
Speaker 4:Okay.
Speaker 2:That's how you determine where you're going after that. Fire um 30, um uh water, 30 basic needs, um okay, uh bug out bag oh well 30 I'll say like 25, okay, okay, okay I gotta push you in the right direction I'm gonna go I'm gonna just say everything is 30 I know I'm like uh, trees, trees yeah no, oh 30 um charcoal, what?
Speaker 1:uh 10 and this is gonna be very specific, right, like you said, like ocean um, yeah, it's specific enough okay, um like, if you give me an answer within the category, I'll accept that is to say emergency rations, too specific I would just kind of put that under food, I think okay, so.
Speaker 2:So this is I'm going for subcategories yeah, if you hit something within like.
Speaker 1:So the main category is basic needs. If you hit something within your answer, I'll give it to you so I got water, fire, uh, fire water, bug out bag. Well I mean, I'll give you a much higher rating actually what about food? Didn't you say oh, you said fire fire water oh I would associate it more like 47 um when you know the answer, I think this will make a lot more sense. Okay, I hope uh you're welcome to help tj, although right now he is your competitor, but I'm trying to think like.
Speaker 3:I don't want to help him, okay, no, he doesn't. He doesn't deserve help. I think I already know what it is Really.
Speaker 1:Are you giving a hint right now?
Speaker 2:What about a canister? Canister, yeah, container 15.
Speaker 1:Okay, that's a basic need.
Speaker 3:To carry. If you don't got Tupperware, I don't have fire for water.
Speaker 4:Zombie apocalypse.
Speaker 3:What are you going to do If?
Speaker 1:you don't got Tupperware for all your canned goods. What about air, air, water? I want to say 30, but I wouldn't really associate. I would say like 10. Camp, 90. 10. Really, associate.
Speaker 2:I would say like 10 camp, uh, 90, 10, oh god, 94 shelter. There you go, okay, okay took you that fucking long.
Speaker 3:I had it the whole time all right, let's see what you get?
Speaker 1:did you put stuff on top of your head to mimic shelter, or was that just shelter? Or was that just you doing it?
Speaker 2:You got to love Nerdy Vet.
Speaker 3:Basically your number one fan. Official said camping and I'm like shelter.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, that was like Nerdy Vet says welcome to the show where the points don't matter yeah, the points.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, I'm hosting, so you got a good point. Don't matter, we'll see. I that that didn't take that long, so I think we could maybe do this, but we'll see. I don't know. It depends on who you ask, that's true.
Speaker 3:TJ editing is like this is oh my God, how would it have just been. Like food, water, shelter.
Speaker 1:Well, now I'm going to give you a trickier one, all right, all right.
Speaker 3:I have it 30.
Speaker 1:Food, food.
Speaker 3:Wait, reverse it. Food, wait, reverse it. No, wait, so Chicken nuggets 47.
Speaker 1:47?
Speaker 3:What the fuck that's such a random number. You're halfway there.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to leave room. I'm halfway there actually. Maybe I should have given it lower. I would have thought about it that way vehicle 18. He rolls his eyes with every answer I give filter uh three, how the fuck is chicken nuggets 47. I feel like that's gonna really throw you off yeah, no, it's okay well can I help?
Speaker 2:I'm just gonna go, you can?
Speaker 4:I'm not going to okay it's, it's they're all so unnecessary, they're all survival related.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, and you guessed chicken nugget.
Speaker 1:We're under basic needs.
Speaker 3:It's under basic needs. I need those. Okay Okay, someone's not surviving.
Speaker 1:So food 60. Fire 90. No Campfire 92.
Speaker 3:Rocket stove 88. Charcoal 60. Uh 88.
Speaker 1:Charcoal Uh 60.
Speaker 3:Fire starter 70.
Speaker 1:Smoke Uh 62. I don't remember where I placed things when I give answers.
Speaker 3:You put fire at 90. But I'm also giving answers, kind of fast Heat.
Speaker 1:There you go. That was it. Heat I was considering giving. That was it Heat. I was considering giving a hint, but then I was like that might be cheating.
Speaker 2:That is cheating. I didn't get a hint, yeah, because I didn't give you a hint.
Speaker 1:Alright, well, I will say I think TJ got it faster, so I'm going to give him the point for that round, because points do matter actually. Ha you got bamboozled?
Speaker 2:I think that's garbage.
Speaker 1:We'll see if I remember them.
Speaker 2:Garbage.
Speaker 1:My handy-dandy notepad or sticky note. Boom TJ Alex.
Speaker 2:Alex gets one.
Speaker 1:Boom, tj got one. All right, let's see. So the next category is gear and tools. Now I will say I got this list from chad gpt and then I asked it to randomly pick two and holy fuck it. Uh, it picked a really difficult one for one of you and then I was like I can't do that. This would be another like 21 questions where I would just get nothing but shit for the the items that I chose for you guys. So I had to adjust. But what was it, halbert? It was paracord. And I was like there's no way they're getting paracord.
Speaker 4:I would get paracord I would have got.
Speaker 1:No, because I barely know what paracord is so I would not be able to help
Speaker 3:you get to that various strings inside of a sheath of other fabric.
Speaker 1:Yeah, see, I could have Googled it and maybe figured it out, but I'm not confident.
Speaker 3:It's a very strong cord. You can use it for a lot of things. If you take it apart, you can use that shit for fishing line.
Speaker 4:It's very good to make it work for knives.
Speaker 3:You can use it for a bunch of stuff, anyways.
Speaker 2:Making nets hammocks, hangocks hanging.
Speaker 1:I'm learning a lot here, general consensus is yes, it's true, alex I have your word in my mind, okay and this one is we're no longer in basic needs. We're in gear and tools.
Speaker 2:And tools.
Speaker 1:Hatchet, uh, one Hammer Three.
Speaker 2:Just because I don't want to say one again. Backpack Twenty Um tarp.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, this one's going to take some thinking, but 42. I got it.
Speaker 3:I don't think you do. I got it.
Speaker 1:If you do, you should send it to me on Discord. I'll look on my phone, Okay.
Speaker 4:I know what it is.
Speaker 2:What is it?
Speaker 1:Paracord, paracord.
Speaker 4:I'm just kidding, Wow you got it.
Speaker 3:That's crazy, no Before. I actually solidify my little answer that I'm going to send to you. Yeah, okay, before I actually solidify my little answer that I'm going to, send to you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay, you could do that in your head. Quiet voice, quiet voice. Okay, I'm going to remember what, yeah. No, it's dino nuggets Under gears and tools.
Speaker 3:Yeah, tactical nugs.
Speaker 2:So Tarp got me the highest. What about, let's see if I go backwards here? What about knife?
Speaker 1:Yeah, five, okay, tent 24.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, so tarp is up there. 42. I feel like I might throw you off with that. Tent dropped. Hammock Five Okay, and it's gear and tools um nothing's higher so far than backpack or than no tarp, nothing's higher than tarp tj's guess is incorrect. I'm gonna say um, what about? It's a little too specific, I think. But what about plastic sheeting?
Speaker 1:50.
Speaker 2:Okay, a little bit higher.
Speaker 1:Your second guess is incorrect. What if I were to say water 35.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:How about clothes, seven Shelter when do I put that 40?
Speaker 2:40. Shelter tarp.
Speaker 1:so then what about?
Speaker 2:I'm doing you no favors here. What?
Speaker 1:about. It doesn't have to be. You know, your guesses don't have to be specific objects.
Speaker 2:If you're trying to get an idea of what it is, it could be more concepts and I can give you ratings on the concepts yeah and because I'm trying to connect where we got, we got tarp is the highest at 40 shelter. So I think I've got to maneuver around a little bit more and say, um, I'm trying to think of of things that I would have in a in a backpack.
Speaker 1:You should think less like that and more like me.
Speaker 2:Fuck, uh, okay, cell phone charger Two. I'm thinking like you. What the hell.
Speaker 1:In what world does TARP being 40 mean cell phone charger?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1:No, I do have a reasoning for putting it where I put it. Okay, and I think when you hear what it is, it might make sense. It also just might not.
Speaker 2:Okay, what about about? Um, let's go. I'm still trying to think of gear gear and tools um emergency blanket. Um, it's kind of like a tarp, but it's lighter at 38 okay, so um all your guesses are wrong, tj.
Speaker 1:Now I'm pissed off I died I'm angry um, how about? I did not think this would be this difficult this one's tough um no.
Speaker 2:So how shelter is it?
Speaker 1:uh uh, water collection uh, tj guessed the same thing, 23.
Speaker 2:Food storage 3. But shelter's only 40. How do I get up there? Okay, so what do I go past Tarp If I were to say forest Backpack was down low.
Speaker 1:Do you want me to give him the number? Forest?
Speaker 2:Wait, he doesn't get the point for this, no he won't get the point.
Speaker 1:Uh, it's a little bit of a leap. I'm gonna go with 40. Well, I'm gonna go with 50, 50 tarp forest.
Speaker 2:I'm so lost.
Speaker 1:Forest is 50, but tarp is only 40 when you guys get it, I I think it'll make sense shelter is only 42 josh it wasn't dead um, it's not.
Speaker 2:I gotta, I gotta, break out of this shelter.
Speaker 1:Thought here um hammock I think you already guessed that did I.
Speaker 2:What was that? The last round?
Speaker 1:I think you guessed hammock, because I specifically thought about using this item in a hammock and I was like 23, I think is what I said, or somewhere around there using the item.
Speaker 2:Okay, so what about it's? Gear and tools okay tourniquet uh two uh well, let me say first aid one.
Speaker 1:It's like, yeah, I'm gonna stick with it, but there's arguments for it shelter, first aid.
Speaker 3:He also said, it's not for a trap. I'll give you a hint shelter first aid my first thought was maybe like a groundfall trap.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not, it's not for trapping, it's not for food trapping, it's not for water trapping. Shelter, tarp and forest are camouflage 20. Jeez Forest Green.
Speaker 1:I don't know, 38.
Speaker 2:How do I get up Wood oh?
Speaker 1:okay, 60.
Speaker 2:Leaves 60.
Speaker 1:50.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:That's going the right. What about underbrush?
Speaker 1:48. Okay, you're going in the right direction.
Speaker 2:Fire starter.
Speaker 1:Back to like 23.
Speaker 2:There goes my guess Tree sap.
Speaker 1:I think 13. Well, no, I'd give it higher, I'd give it much higher than that, maybe like 42. 42.
Speaker 3:I think that's fair. I'm definitely going to have to put some background music in this fucking episode, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:This is fucking tough man.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, Do you want a?
Speaker 2:hint yeah.
Speaker 1:In our 21 questions episode you found it smart to hit different categories of gear and survival in broad strokes to try and eliminate some of the main things like first aid or shelter and things like that. I think that might help.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, I already did shelter, I did first aid. I got the highest response on forest. Um, no response on food or water, um nothing on fire, um, what are you? What are you going?
Speaker 3:smoke signal, uh gear and tools gear and tools tarp was the highest item of something I could think of yeah tree forest when the highest thing highest, you start thinking about what you could use that thing for instead of trying to get to something else, because it's not a tarp.
Speaker 2:So no, it's not a tarp, but that was that's the highest item that I can think of carrying. This is gear and tools and can't carry a forest, can't carry.
Speaker 1:Keep in mind associations or things that could be related, things that could be close to it or things that could just be leading you into the right direction. Let's see a saw. Uh, no, back down to like 10, well, maybe, maybe closer to like 30. I will say remember other tools were at like five and three but this is gear and tools.
Speaker 2:Forest is a 50.
Speaker 1:I think was forest, not 60?.
Speaker 2:No, no tree was 60. No tree was 60.
Speaker 1:No, fuck, is it close? You want to put it out there, boots 13. Fuck.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so.
Speaker 1:You guys are missing. Like a whole category that you guys are normally all over Hiking oh oh 57. Like a whole category that you guys are normally all over hiking oh oh 57 did I?
Speaker 2:did I not say shelter? You said shelter okay, shelter I think I gave that like communication uh, maybe like 38 okay, um, I already did first aid 97 buick le sabre um zero fuck I thought.
Speaker 3:I thought that was it. Hiking was fairly decent. Didn't reach somebody who has a 97 buick le sabre I'm driving.
Speaker 1:That was that tree was at 60 tree was at 60, so what can you use from a tree? I already asked about a saw god, I am so about a drill. I'm so hoping that when the answer is given, everybody's like oh, that makes sense, and that they're not all angry at me you said a drill, a drill like, like 12.
Speaker 2:Cabin 25. Okay, we're back down again. Tree is the highest. Wood got me nothing right. Wood was.
Speaker 1:No wood got you something.
Speaker 2:Wasn't that like 47 or something like that?
Speaker 1:That sounds about right.
Speaker 3:Well, I said hiking, and hiking got a high one too.
Speaker 1:If tree's 60, maybe I would give wood like 62. Oh, wood is a little more in the direction I don't know if you ever said wood, but I'll give it 62. If I said something else before, I was wrong.
Speaker 2:Wood is 62.
Speaker 3:An egg salad sandwich from the 7-Eleven Forest is 50, tree is 60,.
Speaker 2:Wood is 62.
Speaker 1:That's it. It's the egg salad sandwich from the 7-eleven on 57th street yes, um of course canopy uh 13 purple so it has nothing to do with the tree itself.
Speaker 2:Wood 62 I gotta keep going in that direction. This is I'm still way too far off.
Speaker 1:We're in concepts of a plan right now. Black Gear and tools.
Speaker 3:Would a black use this?
Speaker 2:Gear and tools.
Speaker 1:No, definitely not.
Speaker 2:And you say we would ordinarily be all over this category.
Speaker 1:You guys would normally have already hit this category. You guys haven't even hit the category and that's crazy to me.
Speaker 2:How? What category could we be missing? Food, water, shelter?
Speaker 1:we already said that's pretty low on the list, like 38, because you guys have done like first aid, you guys have done food stuff. You guys have done, uh, water purification stuff um heat. You've done first aid, you've done shelter I've done communication heat would be um typically under shelter.
Speaker 2:I don't know that there's another category after that there most certainly communication and there's one more that's your gear um defense. Uh, oh you 45 what about weapon?
Speaker 1:Defense 45. What about weapon?
Speaker 3:10. Fishing pole 15.
Speaker 2:Bow and arrow 15.
Speaker 1:Stealth One One.
Speaker 2:Okay, so hiking forest.
Speaker 1:One might be harsh, harsh, but it's low tree wood wood is a 62.
Speaker 2:It's not high enough.
Speaker 1:We're still way outside uh I feel like, at this point, do we want to start working as a team? I'm trying, yeah, yeah, I mean you have been, but Alex, Alex, Alex, Alex.
Speaker 3:Navigation. What do you use for navigation in your everyday life? What do you use to navigate?
Speaker 2:GPS.
Speaker 1:What is a GPS 96.
Speaker 2:Cell phone. What is a GPS A map? You go oh, jesus you guys were stuck on map so so wood for paper, yeah, oh, god, that's what?
Speaker 1:because you guys, when you hit tarp, I thought well, it's a big square I hate kind a map but, like really big that fucked me so hard I had to get you towards it.
Speaker 1:But then that's why I realized I threw you off with that. I kept saying I was like I probably threw you off with that. And then you said forest and I was like, oh, wood paper. Yes, let me get you closer to it. So I gave it 60 and then I gave tree 62, but you guys kept guessing tools and I kept putting the tools below 10 and you guys kept guessing tools that was the we were gonna get the right tool I'm like no, any tool.
Speaker 1:I would have put a higher than 10 if it was a tool. It's close in the vicinity.
Speaker 3:Josh, did that upset me so much? You already upset our number one fan.
Speaker 1:Look, my mind is beautiful and it's fine. And it works fine, you're an artist.
Speaker 3:Made of wood.
Speaker 2:For sure. Curious George just says why Let me put this tarp down.
Speaker 1:What was the problem? Which one was the problem? You tell me which one was the problem Besides tarp I admitted, tarp might have thrown you off, but I was trying to get you into a shape.
Speaker 2:Nerdy is on your side, he said. Maps are technically tools. Curious. George said yeah, maps are technically tools Maps aren't always square, though Curious George said yeah, maps are paper.
Speaker 1:In the 21 questions you guys were like first aid communication, navigation, water purification. Those were like your first four every time. And then we get here and you guys are like I've never walked around, I've never had to know where I'm going in the wild.
Speaker 2:TJ's better be that hard. I don't know if it will be that sucks.
Speaker 1:I didn't think that one would be hard.
Speaker 2:Let's see.
Speaker 1:Okay, TJ.
Speaker 2:This is going to be so easy, tj. Turn your brain off, just guess.
Speaker 1:I have yours in mind, and it's not paracord Food. That'd been so funny, though. Paracord Um 15. Water 15.
Speaker 3:Navigation.
Speaker 1:Uh, 30. It's not navigation. It's not navigation. Navigation 30.
Speaker 3:It's not navigation 1976.
Speaker 2:VW bus.
Speaker 1:What'd you say?
Speaker 2:1976 VW bus.
Speaker 3:That's it. I'm gonna go with Eric's Mind, circle, circle.
Speaker 1:I could really throw you off, but I won't too square what, what this feels like he's trying to get into your head. This feels like the test I took. What?
Speaker 3:shape is it? Eric is?
Speaker 1:it a square for talented and gifted? No, but it's. You gotta be fair you.
Speaker 2:You actually said you picked Tarp because it's a square like a map.
Speaker 1:Okay, well, that's fair. So he's fucking with you. I mean 35?.
Speaker 3:Oval 27?
Speaker 1:Trapezoid, what 10?
Speaker 3:The Decahedron.
Speaker 1:Zero. What are we doing here? I feel like I broke you guys with map. I can't do this anymore, I love map I broke you guys on the third one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that fucking broke my brain. You had warning, you knew about chlorine.
Speaker 1:Okay, you knew this is what was happening it's true, equals map you could use a tarp to make a map on it, could you not? I will be fair.
Speaker 2:You kept it relatively low. I couldn't get past it. To figure it out.
Speaker 1:I didn't say it was 70 or something.
Speaker 2:I got it, that would have really fucked you up.
Speaker 3:Yeah, metal.
Speaker 1:What was your word again? Metal, oh 60. Oh, um 60. Nice, uh 40. No Lower 20.
Speaker 4:Hmm.
Speaker 1:Weapon 10. Tool oh wait, hang on, hang on, I'll give it a 35. Tool 30.
Speaker 3:Trap 27.
Speaker 1:I don't want to throw you off hunting five.
Speaker 3:What was metal again?
Speaker 1:I think I said 60. I would revise it to 50, but it it doesn't, it's not really going to make that much of a difference well, metal's made of carbon, and so is everything else, so just so you know there's some really good ones on the chat here.
Speaker 3:I don't think you can see what's the category again of the thing Gear and tools Fabric.
Speaker 1:What was your word again?
Speaker 3:Fabric.
Speaker 2:No, I forgot your word oh 18.
Speaker 3:Shoes Five Pants.
Speaker 1:Six. Well, oh wait, wait, let me give it 20, 20. Cargo Like cargo pants, it's cargo.
Speaker 3:Cargo in general Cargo, how does that factor into the?
Speaker 1:word 40. I feel confident with that Storage Uh. 26. Drugs 19. Jansport backpack. I feel like these answers are not giving you anything. I'm going to go 33.
Speaker 3:It's giving me things. It's giving me things. I said water. What was water Water?
Speaker 1:I think I said 15 for food and water, cube, cube, uh. 10, gloves, 11, shelter ah, this is uh, it's so similar to others. 40 environment uh, oh man, these are Environment no 21. I guess it was as hard as Hot, nah. 18. Cold, 18. Gray, what 24. I was trying to guess the color. Um, so specific color is it see?
Speaker 3:because you can't even ask questions, it's just fucking word. Association eyes one. What was the highest? I can't even remember what the highest one I got.
Speaker 1:I don't remember the highest one you got, do you remember?
Speaker 2:No, I don't.
Speaker 1:I think the highest one you got might have been it wasn't Shelter, I think it was Metal.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Metal was 60.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, okay, okay, okay, but.
Speaker 1:I revised it to 50, but that's still the highest Hard you said hard yeah.
Speaker 3:Ah 57., it's a fucking brick.
Speaker 1:Ding ding ding Gear and tools. You know your defense brick. This might just come down to knowledge, but I'm gonna give it a 12. I'm pretty sure Flint's a rock, not a metal. So Well, it's more if this tool slash gear has flint in it Magnesium. I'm going to say 12 as well, for the same exact reason.
Speaker 3:I said fire.
Speaker 1:I don't remember. If you did say fire, I would say I think I said 15. Well, I would put it at 15.
Speaker 2:You did for fire and water and food.
Speaker 3:I helped you, Alex. Where's my help at? I'm going to need some help.
Speaker 4:Because I said water, I broke my goddamn brain dude.
Speaker 3:And Josh said canteen, and then you were like four. And, and he's like, so it's not canteen thank you very much.
Speaker 2:So you did. You did the categories right food, water, shelter yeah, communication, is that an official guess communication?
Speaker 3:communication 70 antenna 75 so satellite phone 82 try two-way radio two-way radio ding, ding, ding. I'll give you that was just radio oh, fucking, that was one of the ones on the 20 questions.
Speaker 4:You fuck, yeah, well, I that was one I'm saying you guys, the one that we like really couldn't fucking get.
Speaker 1:I thought you were gonna get it, because you you said navigation and I was like oh, he's gonna say communication next, and then you just abandoned that completely and just started guessing other stuff oh no, not me.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, okay, I was looking at you, but I met him. Okay, I will admit something, okay, but hear me out it took me so long to jump in to help you, tj, because I seriously was fucking zoning out on this stupid minecraft, minecraft dude I was sitting here. I was so fucking zoned in on it and then all of a sudden, you're like Where's my help?
Speaker 4:I was doing the same thing while you were fucking guessing.
Speaker 3:I will say I did get that faster than he got his no.
Speaker 1:I don't know, that was pretty equal, no, it took you 18 minutes Let me look where the clap marks are.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, Definitely faster.
Speaker 2:Lies.
Speaker 1:Okay. Well, I think we only need like one more right From each of us, and I think that should be enough.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:This next one, let's do, hmm Do we want to do?
Speaker 2:items and resources, or environments and terrain? I think, judging by your knowledge on either of them, we might be better off with items and resources. What do you think, tj.
Speaker 1:Yeah probably that you guys are the type to be like magnesium and I'm like I don't know, fucking 12 and like magnesium is made in that environment.
Speaker 3:Well, no magnesium. You use this a fire starter fucker okay for radio.
Speaker 1:When you said magnesium, when you said flint, I'm like yeah I don't know if those are in that.
Speaker 2:I don't think so. No, it's not.
Speaker 3:No, I get why metal was high.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, I said 60, and then I was like I feel like it's mostly plastic so that might kind of mislead you, but there's definitely metal in there.
Speaker 3:It's probably rectangular.
Speaker 1:When you said square, I gave you the highest one because I was like go for rectangle Every time I was leading you toward the direction.
Speaker 3:You just abandoned that thought process, I don't know, for some reason. It's just your face dog, your face.
Speaker 1:Just, mr x, there's just something about your face okay, I'm gonna give a hard one so that we have tons of of footage. Uh, I'm gonna give a hard one for both of you. I think you guys get me now right, you guys understand my brain.
Speaker 2:No, there is no one who will believe that you and I did not coordinate that at all.
Speaker 1:That was so in sync.
Speaker 3:At least on our end.
Speaker 1:That was at the exact same time.
Speaker 3:Stupid dude.
Speaker 4:This episode is so funny.
Speaker 1:Fantastic so.
Speaker 3:Alex.
Speaker 1:I have your word.
Speaker 2:Okay, items and resources.
Speaker 1:Items and resources. Items and resources okay, food, uh 28 uh water 22 first aid uh 40 navigation uh 18 shelter 41.
Speaker 2:Okay, first aid and shelter have the highest. Food is third items and resources. Um shelter and first aid, I'm gonna go hard in with tourniquet tourniquet uh well, 44 and what about, say, tarp 39 items and resources there's food? Water is lower, food was not too low, but I'm not confident with my answers on this one. First aid and shelter were the highest. Tarp doesn't even reach the level oh 42 for shelter, 40 for first aid.
Speaker 1:I think I said 40 for shelter and 41 for first aid. Oh, 40 for shelter, 40 for first aid.
Speaker 2:I think I said 40 for shelter and 41 for first aid, oh 40 for shelter, 41 for first aid items and resources. Um is it? What about um? Is it a metal object? So 10.
Speaker 1:No, I'd say lower than five okay, fabric uh 40, 40, 40 um clothing 32 um, well, okay, you're not gonna fuck me hat.
Speaker 2:No, I'm not fucking with you like that all right, uh hat, I would put at 12. Okay.
Speaker 1:Again, this makes sense to me.
Speaker 2:What about? I think we lost TJ.
Speaker 1:Watching Minecraft Park oh.
Speaker 3:I'm not. I'm locked in.
Speaker 2:You're locked in.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:He's making one of those police boards where you put the yarn between different things.
Speaker 2:He's figuring it all out.
Speaker 3:I'm trying All right.
Speaker 2:So I liked first aid and shelter the best, but we still got to get higher and I think it was shelter. That was 41 right, or was that first aid?
Speaker 1:first aid was 41. First aid was 41, shelter was 40 yeah, and I think tourniquet was 44 and so we go to but bring that back up when we get the answer. Bring tourniquet back up, because I'm curious what about blood clotting gauze 34.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Then we go to what about a stretcher?
Speaker 1:It's such a tricky item, I'm going to go 27. Okay.
Speaker 2:Let me be more generic Bandages 55.
Speaker 1:55.
Speaker 2:Okay, but not just blood clotting gauze. All gauze is low right, there's like 20 something.
Speaker 1:I would put it around the same area. Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:All right, alcohol yeah.
Speaker 1:Alcohol 12.
Speaker 2:Okay, so it's not in the solvent. What about sutures or stitches?
Speaker 1:No, like 18.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, tourniquet bandages. We've got to get higher. We're not even above the 50s yet.
Speaker 1:No, bandage was 55.
Speaker 2:50 bandages. Oh yeah, you're not above the 50s yet. No bandage was 55, 50 band. Oh, yeah, you're not above the 50s, yeah and we're we're liking first aid better than anything else so far. Um, just so far. I know shelter was also up there, so if it could be something with dual use because I know fabric was up in the the range, it wasn't that high.
Speaker 1:Um, let me see, let me see uh that answer might be subjective or limited on knowledge, but I'm pretty confident with it what about like a compression bandage, a compression sleeve? Uh, I'd put it around like 27.
Speaker 2:Okay, what about Trying to go through all of the first aid and shelter items in my mind? Bandages was fairly high. How do I get up into the 90s? What about duct tape? That's it.
Speaker 1:It is duct tape. It's duct tape Fucking A who guessed?
Speaker 2:it.
Speaker 1:Nerdy vet, nerdy vet, I think fucking hey, who guessed it?
Speaker 4:nerdy vet nerdy vet.
Speaker 1:I think that point should go to nerdy vet does the sticky stuff make sense? Does anytime. You said something sticky. I tried to give it a higher I'm gonna be a hundred percent. I was not there when you guys would say when you guys would say, like clothing or something, I was like, well, you could duct tape it like. That's kind of where the things that were in like the 20s and 30s were all things that I was like.
Speaker 2:You could repair it with duct tape yeah, we're gonna you could kind of use duct tape as a. Uh, you could use duct tape as a yeah, I so.
Speaker 1:That's why, like it was a little tricky, okay, so tourniquet, I gave it 44. Could you make a tourniquet with duct tape? Yeah, if you did it tight enough.
Speaker 2:You could, but your problem with using duct tape as a tourniquet would be getting it off.
Speaker 3:The whole entire.
Speaker 2:Thing would be you do it so that you could get to a hospital or first aid quickly If you twist duct tape to make it into a cordage you could probably make a tourniquet with it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, for sure To use it as a tightener.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I wasn't sure with that one, but I was pretty sure you could. That's good to know.
Speaker 3:I was also sitting here generating AI with my. You survived the podcast till next time. Stay alive.
Speaker 1:That was pretty good, all right, last one, you guys get how my brain works now, no, okay, well, good luck then. I feel like I've made a lot of sense. The only one that seemed to upset people was map.
Speaker 3:Tarp, a square map, a square Map, a tarp. That was actually my brain.
Speaker 2:As I brick from Anchorman. I love lamp. I love map, tarp map.
Speaker 3:Forest map. I'm a simple man guys Wood make paste, make paper. I love lamp. I love map Tarp Map Forest.
Speaker 1:I'm a simple man, guys.
Speaker 3:Wood. Make paste, make paper.
Speaker 1:Map. I don't even know about the paste, I just went wood paper. Anyways, I'm a simple man. I have your word?
Speaker 2:What's your word? Yeah, paracord.
Speaker 3:Ding, ding ding. What's the?
Speaker 2:Items and resources.
Speaker 1:It's definitely going to take a while. If you get it within the first 10, I would lose my mind. That'd be incredible.
Speaker 3:Circle, 30. Triangle, 20. Square 22. Rectangle 35.
Speaker 1:Oblong circle otherwise an oval yeah, I was gonna say it's a complicated way of saying that 47 ovular circle.
Speaker 3:You said 47 yeah okay, I know the shape. I'm here. Here I got it. I'm locked in.
Speaker 1:He's like airplane, sun Moon, earth. I'll give you it. Those are all ones.
Speaker 2:Coconut.
Speaker 3:It's Fuck. I'm so Dude. What's the category?
Speaker 1:Items and resources. Items and resources. Items and resources. Okay, I broke them guys. Food. Uh, I'm gonna really fuck 57 egg 20.
Speaker 3:That'd be crazy if it was.
Speaker 2:I'd be so mad.
Speaker 3:Cooking pot 18.
Speaker 1:Water, oh, that's 60.
Speaker 3:Life straw 20.
Speaker 1:For the audio listeners, between everything he says is me heavily mulling over what I'm going to say with some head shakes, faces and uncertainty. Canteen Like right now, 43. Pan, that doesn't seem right. No, hang on, give me a second. Canteen, no 22. 22.
Speaker 2:Oh, that went down.
Speaker 3:That went the other way, no 22. That went down, that went the other way. Water was 47?. Yeah, that sounds right.
Speaker 2:And remember it's an oblong circle.
Speaker 1:You guys make the game more complicated.
Speaker 2:Out of the shapes that you guessed.
Speaker 1:You said a toilet, yeah. Eight Navigation Ten. You said a toilet, yeah, uh eight Navigation. Ten Trap, maybe I'll, maybe I'll give it 15, but Trap, trap, no five Fishing Wait, uh no, I'll leave trap where it was, fishing seven.
Speaker 3:Hunting Seven. Hunting Seven. Three-dimensional object Uh.
Speaker 1:Three-dimensional object. This is not gonna help you at all. 95.
Speaker 3:Okay, so we know it's not a two-dimensional drawing like we mentioned.
Speaker 4:Ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha ha. Okay, so we know it's not a two-dimensional drawing.
Speaker 1:Oh well, my GPS is 3D, so the map is 3D, though.
Speaker 3:It's Google Earth. The Earth is an oblong circle.
Speaker 1:We all know um milk milk never hurt, no 10, why is?
Speaker 3:milk 10. I feel like it should be zero in some way or form it. It's fucking related by 10%.
Speaker 1:You could, but I judge.
Speaker 3:Plastic.
Speaker 2:But that's only because if you went to go get the milk right now, you wouldn't come back.
Speaker 3:Plastic 52.
Speaker 2:Oh, going down it's a vibrator.
Speaker 1:Ding, ding, ding. You need it for survival.
Speaker 3:You can use it to boil water, I mean.
Speaker 1:I know what TJ needs. It's late guys, it's after hours. We're sorry.
Speaker 3:Can you give me a fucking hint?
Speaker 1:I did not give Alex a hint, and it's not nearly as long as it took him, so I'm going to hold off for a bit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, TJ.
Speaker 1:A couple more guesses and I'll give you a hint.
Speaker 2:Or you could just forfeit the point. Of course you could, but don't do that 12.
Speaker 3:Entertainment no two. It's not a TV that'd be hilarious, though it's not one of those old TVs. The ovular.
Speaker 2:TVs. You know, did you get a category yet? Food, water, shelter, first aid navigation communication.
Speaker 1:TV would be well.
Speaker 3:24 yeah, water was high, so was the we know the ship.
Speaker 1:Ish, I really thought you would have had it by now. Soap, or at least in the vicinity. So 38. Hygiene 37 I don't think it's shelter. 30, maybe like 20, actually communication 10, did you guess?
Speaker 2:fire, fire. I don't think it's Shelter 30? Or maybe like 20, actually Communication 10.
Speaker 3:Did you guess fire, fire, 10.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guessed fire, I'm pretty sure, I think I might have given a different rating earlier, but Water you already guessed that.
Speaker 3:I know, I just need to hear your answer again, didn't I?
Speaker 1:say like 60?, something like that? Or did I say 60? Something like that?
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, that's how you started going to cantina Forest equals map tarp equals map, tree equals map, wood equals map.
Speaker 3:Is what Josh said.
Speaker 2:What about a water?
Speaker 3:bladder, water bladder. I'm going to say the word storage, storage 44?, 44? Boiling storage 44 boiling uh 12 bacteria.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna go with 76 antibiotic ointment 98 what's the?
Speaker 3:is it the fucking name brand antibiotic?
Speaker 1:ointment neosporin it's not a name brand. I'll give you that it's more generic wallsporin or whatever the fuck Walgreens does.
Speaker 3:You know how they always just add a wall to shit.
Speaker 1:It's so stupid. No, go to the store. Can you pick me up? Some? You know how they always just add a wall to shit.
Speaker 3:It's so stupid. No, yeah, go to the store. Can you pick me up some Waltussin?
Speaker 2:No, it sounds disgusting the CVS brand. I hate that Our target is just up and up.
Speaker 3:If you want to sponsor me Walgreens, you can.
Speaker 1:That'd be great. Yeah, I'd shop at Walgreens.
Speaker 3:Fuck yeah, love Walgreens. I mean not, unless you pay us, then fuck Walgreens.
Speaker 2:So it'd be like an antiseptic cream.
Speaker 3:An antibiotic cream.
Speaker 1:Was 98.
Speaker 3:Was 98. So by that logic, the clear answer it's literally so clear it's literally so clear it's so clear.
Speaker 1:It's right there, you got a 98 antibiotics is that your guess antibiotics ding, ding, ding, ding ding. Okay, so a lot of that stuff. I didn't know if it qualified as antibiotics uh, I hate you.
Speaker 3:Virtually none of it water and that's what I'm gonna stab you next time I see you so you're getting stabbed oblong oval antibiotic pills.
Speaker 1:Okay, that are like an oblong oval, that's fine water because to take the pill. Most people don't dry swallow pills like you and me. But maybe I could have tailored that more towards you. But that's where I got water from. And then when you said, when you said, when you started saying the wounds like cut, I was like yeah, you could need antibiotics for that. And you were like gash, I'm like like sure. Then you said burn. I'm like oh, you most certainly need antibiotics for burns, yep, but then you started going down like burn cream and whatnot and I'm like I don't know if the cream itself is an antibiotic. I'm pretty sure you take antibiotics for that. And then aloe vera, I'm pretty sure is not.
Speaker 3:No aloe vera? I'm pretty sure is not. No, aloe vera is just to like soothe a fucking sunburn. No, I'll tell you.
Speaker 2:Well, but aloe vera does have antibiotic properties. So that's where I was, that's why I was like I don't want to give it below a 50, but I want to get you on the right track again. So same thing with antiseptic. That is an antibiotic.
Speaker 1:Okay, see, yeah, it's antiseptic a little bit of that was see, I, I, I knew it was an antiseptic but I couldn't. I couldn't remember if that meant antibiotic, like if it was along the same categories, antibacterial, different antibacterial.
Speaker 2:No, no, no, it's the same. That's, that's the same.
Speaker 1:Yeah, antibacterial antibiotic okay, because when he said bacteria too, I was like I don't know. So yeah, uh, what'd you guys think?
Speaker 3:fucking too hard oh, that is great. I love this episode.
Speaker 1:This is very funny I feel like I, I just like, gave it to you guys oh yeah, you just gave it to us, right?
Speaker 2:yeah, oh, yeah, you just gave it to us right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I've been watching Minecraft Parkour for the past hour and 42 minutes and dude has not missed a fucking jump. Dude, it's fucking crazy, that's the way I like it.
Speaker 1:Well, alex, is your brain too broken, or could you give our socials?
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Speaker 1:all right. Um well, I suppose I have to pick a winner now, which is tough Cause I stopped keeping track.
Speaker 2:That's me.
Speaker 1:I won, I'm not going to lie. That last one, the point definitely went to you, Alex, but I think the other ones, that last one you definitely took way longer than Alex, but I didn't know, I feel the other two. I am confident that Alex took longer. No, so it was, it was pretty I think the second one was neck and neck, but I do think TJ did it just slightly faster, or at least in fewer guesses. I disagree. Well, that sucks for you and it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 3:TJ is our winner today. Yay, you survived the podcast till next time.
Speaker 1:Stay alive but that's not the end of the episode. But that was beautiful. It's not the end of the episode um?
Speaker 3:I just alex, do you?
Speaker 2:have a loser speech. I think it's rigged. You motherfuckers did a handshake deal illegally.
Speaker 1:I am going to launch an investigation and find out how many of these votes came in overnight, and are those going to be all appointed by you and run by you and funded by you?
Speaker 2:Look, you don't worry about the process, okay, the process is the process, just the result and the results are going to? Is the process just the result, and the results are gonna make the people happy, okay, and when they don't, no, it will make the people happy.
Speaker 1:If they don't like it, they could just all right, so we have a fascist over here and tj your winner's speech. I didn't know. We had the fucking presidential election here. Tj sucks.
Speaker 3:TJ lost. I would like to. I would like to thank the academy and all of those who have done right by me Throughout the years. I'd like to thank my beautiful wife For loving and supporting me Through all these hard times and hardships. You know, we really pulled in on that last question. You know all my idea got there all the way. Really, alex was just holding me back that whole time. So you know, shout out to your number one fan official. He has been our number one fan official. He has. He has been our number one fan official. Um, he has, and he's the only number one fan official.
Speaker 1:So yeah, well, there is number one fan official too.
Speaker 2:Yeah it is true, it is true, that's true. And, and on my end, uh, in the loser's corner, I'm going to shout out uh, nerdy vet andGeorge, who were trying to help me out.
Speaker 1:NerdyVet should have got one of them. He did.
Speaker 3:I hereby give NerdyVet a season point. He's in the runnings now, wow.
Speaker 4:Fourth place Nerdy.
Speaker 3:That was a lie. You get nothing from me you don't deserve anything because I am josh I am the king of this podcast, other than eric, you know. He really pulled this oh, you're fucking.
Speaker 2:It's great you're worried about, you're worried about a fascist, but you got a king over there. Look, I am a good fascist you're also bald what does that have to do with it? If you're trying to keep the bloodline strong as kings do. You can't start out bald, you gotta get bald down the line.
Speaker 1:Once you've married enough cousins.
Speaker 2:Wrong.
Speaker 1:Hitler was not bald.
Speaker 2:Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Speaker 1:Hitler was not bald when I started.
Speaker 2:I had a whole lot of hair. Remember, I'm much older than you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, 257, and that is my winner's speech he is Nosferatu, um, and that is it's confirmed.
Speaker 2:Shout out Curious George. This game is like war there are no winners, unless you don't play.
Speaker 3:Well, even if you don't play, well, even if you don't play, you just kind of get bombed at randomly.
Speaker 1:So you know, yeah, with that, tj will be hosting the next episode. Alex lost and is salty about it. Neither of these two understand my brain, and that's okay, and until next time, stay alive.
Speaker 3:And if you are trapped in the woods and all you have is a tarp, do not try to read it as a map. It will not work. Thank you,
