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Will You Survive... The Podcast
Immerse yourself in the world of cinema as we embark on a journey to equip you with the skills to tackle any disaster head-on. Through the lens of thrilling tales, particularly those of the zombie apocalypse, we'll unravel the secrets of preparedness. Join us as we explore the silver screen to empower you for the challenges that lie ahead.
Will You Survive... The Podcast
Will You Survive "Weapons": Witchcraft, Missing Kids, And Mayhem
A smile you can’t trust. A request for a simple bowl of water. And a town that looks away as windows go dark. We dig into Weapons with clear eyes and sharp questions, unpacking why a strong performance and clever structure still falter when the villain steps into the light too soon. Our take is candid and unflinching: suspense thrives on restraint, and this story shows how timing can elevate dread or deflate it.
We break down the film’s chaptered perspectives and how they enrich the mystery, then debate a provocative reading: the “aunt” as a parasitic presence hiding in plain sight. From classroom lessons on parasites to eerily convenient backstory gaps, the clues are there if you’re watching closely. We also push into the film’s moral core—addiction, consent, and control. The teacher’s messy coping, Alex’s forced caretaking, and that horrifying dinner scene mirror the dynamics of households where power and dependency twist love into obedience. Consent as a rule of possession echoes folklore and modern horror alike, adding a chilling layer of logic to the supernatural.
We don’t just critique; we imagine how the film could soar. Picture a found-footage approach: Ring cams stitching the midnight exodus, bodycams capturing what human eyes deny, a scavenger’s lens catching the rituals no one should see. That format would match the “true story” feel and heighten realism without losing heart. And then there’s recovery: after control breaks, the kids and parents don’t bounce back—they rebuild, like waking from a coma. It’s a rare choice that respects trauma and keeps the fear alive once the credits roll.
Expect smart takes, specific scenes, production trivia, and a grounded final verdict: a solid eight with room to haunt even deeper. If you care about how horror works—pacing, point of view, and the ethics of fear—you’ll feel right at home here. Listen, subscribe, and tell us where you stand on the reveal: did it undercut the scare, or did it sharpen the stakes? Your turn.
Hello, survivors, and welcome to another episode of Will You Survive the Podcast. I am your host, Eric, and I'm joined here by my two co-hosts, Alex. That's me and TJ. Hi. You know, I feel like we haven't done an actual proper introduction for an episode. I know, I blame TJ.
SPEAKER_00:In a good while. I don't know. It's all TJ's fault.
SPEAKER_01:Definitely not my fault.
SPEAKER_00:Because you speedrun Minecraft.
SPEAKER_03:I'm not speeding running Minecraft. I literally see the screen moving. Like I see the lighting changing. I can see that you're not speedrunning Minecraft right now. Okay, but you're playing Minecraft?
SPEAKER_01:No. Minus five points for lying. I'm not lying. Share your screen. Why would I share my screen?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Exactly.
SPEAKER_01:Well, you're just gonna see my desktop?
SPEAKER_03:Anyway, so we're talking today about the movie Weapons, uh, which I think right before my intro was probably a spoiler alert, but I'll say it again anyway. Spoiler alert. If you haven't seen this movie, it just came out this year. I'm dating the episode, the year of our lore 2025. It's not.
SPEAKER_01:Shut up. I read 12th first.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, I want to hear it. It's cold season. Okay, Mr. Europe. It is it's cold season. They do do that. It's cold season in the year of 2025. I see you playing Minecraft. You've been. I'm playing Minecraft. I'm lost. It's pre-recorded. It's pre-recorded. I'm like, shut up. It's pre-recorded. Also, what the hell were you trying to build there? This is it's pre-recorded. I literally see your skin. No, I'm just minus five points again for lying. You've lost this episode. I you know what? You're watching a video that of someone who happens to use the same skin, the same skin that you use.
SPEAKER_01:What what skin? This skin?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, exactly. So the movie Weapons, guys. Yep. So I kept hearing that this was like the greatest horror movie of the year.
SPEAKER_01:Wouldn't say that.
SPEAKER_03:And I I wouldn't say that either. I thought it was good. Um, but I kind of feel the same way about this as I did about Sinners, where everybody was like, Sinners is the greatest movie that's come out this year. I think it was a good movie. It was a great movie. I don't know about that. I mean, it's a lot of movies.
SPEAKER_01:I feel like there's been a lot of movies.
SPEAKER_03:Exactly. Well, I feel like there's been a lot of horror movies that are like they're they're really good, but then they get kind of silly at the end. Yeah and it kind of kills it for me. And that was the thing with sinners and with uh with weapons, in my opinion.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Spoiler for the What was the silly part?
SPEAKER_03:For weapons? Yeah. Uh the like 20-minute running scene where she was running through every backyard, and then uh then you see like 20 kids chasing her behind. It was a little silly at the end there. I think I think it was I it was funny. It was a it was a good part of I don't think it was a bad part of the movie, but I think it was, you know, it was a little silly.
SPEAKER_01:It was funny, though. I I I enjoyed the funniness of it, where the fucking kids are just jumping like she's running through people's houses, jumping through windows.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03:Well, also like once I figured out what was happening in the movie, like it was when she was in the principal's house and she snapped the stick, and I went, Oh, it's a Vivitch. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Alright. And then that kind of was like, okay, well, that's the movie.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, no, I caught on to it pretty quick.
SPEAKER_03:Um I I liked it when I didn't I think I liked the movie more when I didn't know what was happening. I think they kind of revealed the antagonist a little too early.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, sorta. I I feel like if they did more of that like creepy shit with her, because she like popped up in people's dreams and like was in the woods with that crackhead. Like if they did more of that, you know, and then like near the ending, we figure it out, you know. I feel like they could have a lot of people. That's what I mean.
SPEAKER_03:Like like more like signs.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, like you barely see, you know.
SPEAKER_03:I I think they revealed her, they made her not scary because they revealed her so early. They they revealed her in the house in daylight with with the principal, which it that was a cool scene because it's like, oh, okay, I now I get the whole movie, but like that that killed it. Now you know the entire plot.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:You you know she's a witch who's controlling these kids with with the stick that she has, or with like with this magic that she has. So like it it it kind of just gave away the whole movie in one fell swoop, in my opinion, when you found out what she was doing. I think I I agree with TJ. I think they could have kind of played it off where it's like there's still like all this mysterious stuff happening, we don't know what's happening, and then towards the very end, you're like, Oh, now I get it, it's her, she's doing this. Because they could have shown her, but not shown that she was the antagonist.
SPEAKER_01:You know, because we didn't really find out about his aunt until like way later in the movie, you know? And then it was just like, Oh, which big bad. Okay, got it.
SPEAKER_03:Which I do like the way that the movie was broken up. I I love uh I saw it originally in books where you the each chapter would be from a different character's perspective. I thought that I think the not the Percy Jackson books, but the the Heroes of Olympus books um did that, where each chapter was from the point of view of a different character, and the story would continue, and then sometimes it would be like, So this is happening with this one character, so now let's go back a bit. This is what was happening during that time, but with this character.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And so you would kind of get two parts of the it was the same timeline, the same time, but you're getting two different perspectives, and you kind of get to piece those together.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:I liked how this movie did that, where it showed the different perspectives, like what was happening with these people during this time. I like that. I thought that was really interesting, but again, I just think they kind of killed it by by revealing the antagonist too early.
SPEAKER_00:Now, do you think that you would have been affected more positively or more negatively to find out that they did shit like this? Maybrook News, Maybrook Missing.com.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, they were trying to make it like, oh, this is a true story.
SPEAKER_00:Sounded like a yeah, they wanted to like I think the one who did that the best was The Fourth Kind, starring Mia Jovovich. Uh they made that out to be a true story, and man, that creeped me the F out.
SPEAKER_03:The fourth kind was it or the Sixth Sense?
SPEAKER_00:What no, the fourth kind was like uh Alien Invasion.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, so it was that one, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:But it was it was creepy. They kind of they made it more like demonic than alien. It was also like you couldn't tell if it was it was interdimensional being rather than just like extraterrestrial, because it was insane, like there was craziness going on, and they had this person, this actor who's on IMDB who played the person that was supposed to be the real person and then Mila Jovovich played that Mila Djovovic played her as the actor, portraying her, so it was like it was breaking all kinds of walls to the audience. So this was their attempt to do that, right?
SPEAKER_01:This movie would have benefited from like the found footage like format, like Blair Witch type shit. So like what is it? No, that's a good point. You would see everything, like all the kids running away through like the doorbell cameras, like we did in the movie, but then like we would see like the search for them through like you know, like through through the people's cameras in their homes, you know.
SPEAKER_00:What if they would have done that? Like, I love the idea. You you just brought that in my head, uh, using the idea of the police finding all of the ring door cameras, compiling them all together, and like because that that police officer went into the into the house and was taken over by her, if you will, possessed body cam. You see the body cam.
SPEAKER_01:That would be fucking sick.
SPEAKER_00:But then you see him attack the girl.
SPEAKER_03:Right.
SPEAKER_00:That would be cool. That would be sick. I also thought, like, what if it was uh what if it was Home Dew the crackhead walking around with a video camera, right? Because he was like, he was a scavenger, he had all kinds of old shit, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So I think that could have been he just has like a GoPro on his head or something.
SPEAKER_00:I think you just came up with it.
SPEAKER_01:No, that's they were gonna lean into the fact that this is like real, you know, what's more real than found footage, you know? And I thought that when I was watching it. I'm like, this would be cool if it was found footage.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, real quick, let's talk. Uh you brought up police. If I was that cop, yep, and I said, Do you have anything that is gonna poke prod or stab me, and you say no, and I reach in and get stabbed by a needle, I'm clocking you. I do not blame the clock the cop at all. Yeah, he did.
SPEAKER_00:He did exactly that. He knocked him up.
SPEAKER_01:You looked at his hand and he was like, Fucking clock clocked him, he was shaking for a second and then he just went fuck, punched him in the face. I would have done the same shit, high key, because like, yeah, how you gonna give me syphilis, dog? How you gonna give me needle?
SPEAKER_03:I I I I okay, so like I know as a cop you can't do that, and like you can get in so much trouble, potentially lose your job over that.
SPEAKER_00:But the humanity of it, right?
SPEAKER_03:But I feel like as a judge, if you're looking at that, you gotta be like, dude, you said you didn't have anything that would stab him, and then you he got stabbed by a needle that he has no idea what's on that needle. I don't blame him for knocking your ass out. Yeah, like you deserve that.
SPEAKER_01:And speaking of like needles and drugs and shit, the uh directory. The movie, he uh there's basically like an undertone of like of the like this movie is about drugs and alcohol, you know? It's about addiction and it's about like living addiction. Like how the like with the kid and the aunt, like you know, that kind of dynamic, you know, kind of but I don't know. What uh I don't really see it, but I like see it.
SPEAKER_00:There's a lot either. There's a lot that they had put into this. Um so if you don't mind, host weapons 2025. When all but one child from the same class mysteriously vanish on the same night at exactly the same time, the community is left questioning who or what is behind their disappearance. So, in this concept, uh, I love how they hide in plain sight that the teacher and the one student, the fingers are gonna point to the teacher, of course. And I gotta say, I was so annoyed with the teacher until I talked to myself watching her and saying, dude, this is a trauma response. Everything she's doing is irrational, yes, but nothing that you do in a trauma response is rational. What was the irrational going like insisting to go talk to the kid when she's been told many times, don't leave him alone, stop doing that. But she knew something was up and she couldn't let it go.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I also agree, I I understand where like it sucked because she got painted as the the witch, the predator. Yeah, and she's like, No, I'm a victim just as much as this kid. Like, he's my only chance of any sort of normalcy or answers. Right. He's the only one that could understand what I'm going through right now, but because she's the adult, she was seen as the predator. Right. She was also the only person to notice that he was acting different, you know? Yeah, yeah. What what I loved, I loved the I forget his name, the older dude who went to confront her and then ended up saving her. Josh Brolin.
SPEAKER_00:Uh yeah, Josh Rowland. Um I I watched his own.
SPEAKER_03:I loved his character. I loved his character where he Archer. He did not like her. He was the like one of the main ones accusing her. And then when but when she got attacked, he was like, no, like that I'm not gonna let you get attacked. Like, like that's not what I just want answers. I'm not, I don't want you to get hurt. I I thought that kind of character was very cool to see where he I mean I pretty much said it, but like he's like, I don't want to see you get hurt, I just want to know where my child is. Yep. And I felt like you might have the answers, but then after seeing her get attacked by that crazed per uh principal, then he's like, Well, clearly you're a victim here too. Yep, clearly you don't know what the fuck is going on because that is crazy.
SPEAKER_00:Mind you, you guys do realize the uh the chameleon, the chameleon in this movie, the principal.
SPEAKER_03:Who is that?
SPEAKER_00:That was Wong from Doctor Strange.
SPEAKER_01:Benedict Wong is his name.
SPEAKER_03:Oh crazy. You know, I recognized him, but I didn't know from what.
SPEAKER_01:No, I I knew that.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, he was also in The Martian. We watched that. The scene.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, oh, I know who he was.
SPEAKER_00:He was Bruce.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. So, oh, okay, but that scene where he killed his husband. Fucking brutal.
SPEAKER_01:Dude, I could have done without the throw up though. I feel like that was a little too cheesy. I feel like I feel like the black vomit was a little too cheesy.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I I know what you mean. I don't I don't blame you for that. The head bashing that and then you hear that he's still alive while it's happening. Yep. Oh my god, that was that was horrible.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that was really graphic. I I like the um like her ritual, you know. Yeah, I thought that was kind of that was very creative. Very creative. Um, the way he just kind of froze up, you know. I was like, oh fuck.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, let me tell you something though. If somebody says, can I have a bowl of water? Get out of my hand and I go, well, okay, hang on, hang on. Someone says, uh, can I have a bowl of water? And I say, a bowl? And they go, Yeah, you know, it's this weird thing. I don't even rationalize it anymore. I'm like, all right, I give you a bowl of water. Then you pull out shit and you cut your hand with this thorny stick. No, I'm taking away that bowl. I don't know what the fuck you're doing, but I'm not letting you continue that. They just stood around and watched her in their house do that. Like, absolutely not. The second you start cutting your hand on purpose and denying first aid and dripping blood uh and like rubbing your your blood all over the stick. No, I'm taking that bowl away from you. I'm not letting you continue that.
SPEAKER_01:You're that's clearly ritualistic shit that you're doing.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. I'm like absolutely not. I'm not letting you finish that. Well, I feel like that's I survived this because I don't let her do that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Like, what? Definitely. Um, but yeah, no, as soon as she asks for a bowl of water, I'm like, yo, this bitch is weird. She looks weird. I'm a very judgmental person. Um no. I mean get the fuck out of here.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, no, I'm not gonna lie. The because the principal had the right idea where he was like, This is inappropriate. You do not need to be here at my house. Yeah, like I will give you a glass of water at my doorstep. You do not need to come in.
SPEAKER_00:It's the fucking husband's fault letting them and that's what I was gonna say is is all couples, all relationships, you need to back each other up at all times over any stranger walking up to your house. If your partner has a hinky feeling, you're not there, you're not talking to the person, you didn't have the conversation with this person in the office, and now this person is coming to your home inappropriate. There is no reason for you to come to my home. I missed it. And how did you know I lived here?
SPEAKER_03:That's what I was wondering. How the hell did she know where he lived? I would not be okay with that. Like, I don't know. If if I was with somebody who was like, I don't know, this isn't a good thing, like, you shouldn't be here, then I'd be like, Okay, well, look, I'll give you a glass of water. You said you're thirsty, I'll give you a glass of water, we'll call you an Uber, maybe. But other than that, I'm not coming in my house. This is this is inappropriate. You shouldn't be here to begin with. I don't know how you even know where I live. You shouldn't be here. I'm backing up my spouse.
SPEAKER_01:If they're uncomfortable, then I'm not inviting them in because he kind of was just like, okay, I guess she's coming in. I'd have been like, babe, no, no.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, like no, I I don't know. If my spouse is uncomfortable with somebody being at my doorstep, I'm not inviting them in. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Which I will tell you, I I say which without the pun intended, but uh in these in these type of uh situations, permission is absolutely necessary. There is uh in in voodoo, um, you have to believe in it in order for them to take hold of you. So there is a lot of speculation on it that if the person, I don't want to say, you know, simply doesn't believe in voodoo, but adamantly believes counter, I will not let you take me. They can't. Permission is necessary. This goes through every single if you consider Bible truth or lore, if you consider all the religions of the world, fact or fiction, whatever you want to say, all of them hold the same concept in possession. Uh permission is always sought.
SPEAKER_03:I mean, we saw that in the Third Conjuring.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Where he uh I think his name was Archie. Was it Arch Archie?
SPEAKER_00:Uh yeah. He he told the demon take me instead.
SPEAKER_03:And we then didn't realize the demon was just gonna take him too. Yeah. But have you seen uh yeah, talk to me?
SPEAKER_01:No, I want to see that. That's on my list. Yeah, I if I win this episode, one of the many. I might pick that actually, because it's very similar in the fact that like you grab the hand, and in order for like the possession to happen, you have to say, I let you in, you know. Okay. So that that kind of adds to your point.
SPEAKER_03:And then recently, okay, let's just talk about some other movies really quick. Have you guys heard about the what the what is it, the woman in black or the woman in the field or something like that?
SPEAKER_00:The woman in the yard?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, they were talking about the I saw I saw one trailer for it and I thought that looks eerie, but not enough for me to want to watch it. But then some friends were I I mean, I don't even know if I can say friends. Uh people in the Discord were talking about it, and and like not to be mean, I barely know the people though. I don't know if I can really consider them friends. Acquaintances, yeah. People in the Discord, they were talking about it and they were like smiling ear to ear.
SPEAKER_00:You can see it.
SPEAKER_03:They were like, this movie, uh, they were like, that movie was incredible. I'm like, holy shit. Okay, I'll watch it because it it caught my attention, it looked eerie.
SPEAKER_00:And without knowing what it is, um, I was told there's a major twist.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I don't know anything about it other than that that poster of that woman in black sitting in a chair in the middle of a field. Something about it is so fucking eerie. Yeah, it is it's kind of like I don't know, it sends shivers down my spine. I I I've heard it's incredible, so I kind of want to watch it.
SPEAKER_00:So there's just a little um uh what what do you call it? We call them fun facts. Uh I don't know if you know this, but the film is set in Pennsylvania. That makes sense. And in Pennsylvania, the only place you can buy liquor and wine is at state stores, and you cannot buy liquor, beer, or wine all in the same place. So that that liquor store was a goof that wouldn't have been there. Just a little fun fact.
SPEAKER_03:That's funny. Now I I did love I I thought the teacher's response to everything was very realistic. Yeah. Like the the uh like the going and buying two bottles of vodka, grabbing one, and then being like, maybe two. I I think maybe, yeah. Yeah, I think her all of her reactions were very rational, I think.
SPEAKER_00:I also think all of the parents' reactions were very rational when they found out about her history.
SPEAKER_03:Uh yeah, unfortunately. But like, okay, so here's the thing. I feel so conflicted about this because on the one hand, I do understand, yes, it's inappropriate, quote unquote. But at the same time, it's like, what is a teacher for if not to support the student? If the student doesn't have a ride home, right. I mean, I get it because unfortunately, there's really shitty people who will do awful things to children, and it's it's awful that you even have to consider that. Right. But it's like, what is a teacher for if not to be a mentor and a help? Well, and this is and that's what like good teachers get into teaching for.
SPEAKER_00:This is kind of a new thing, because in my old day, uh your coach used to drive you, right? My coach would drive me drive us around. We went to The uh Western the Footlocker Western Regionals with my coach. He was able to drive us. We went to um the Footlocker Nationals all the time with my coach. Uh also, even younger in this, in this grade level in elementary school, my soccer coach would drive me home if I didn't have a ride. Um, I had now I lived really close to my house, so I would walk. It was not uncommon for me to either ride my bike. I had a scooter, it was not the new fangled razor scooters, it was a cool scooter with bigger wheels. You could really do some damage to yourself on these things. And they did have handbrakes, but they didn't work for shit. It was so fun. You would just, if you would eat it, you would just slide on the concrete for days.
SPEAKER_03:So that sounds so much fun.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, it was a blast. Just don't fall, you know? It goes so fast, so or fall on grass, or fall on grass, right? Steer off the road. It works. So, with all of these, uh, one of the things that I wanted to bring up about this is you guys definitely know our audience should know who listen to the podcast regularly. This is the OG zombie. This is exactly where the lore comes from. The Haitian voodoo. Yeah. And it's it's incredible. What I really like, and now the nuance here was again, yeah. TJ's right. Once again, we're talking about the ending already, is how they said that many of them, like the parents were eating soup, you know, some, but somebody else was feeding them. Many of the kids had begun talking again because she was literally sucking the soul and the life out of them. They had to regain a lot.
SPEAKER_03:I I I did think that that was interesting because it it kind of gave the it told a lot in a very short amount of time. Right. To say that like this was this had long-lasting effects on them where they were they were affected by this where they were essentially zombies for a while and they were slowly learning how to be human again.
SPEAKER_02:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:And like that's that's kind of a scary thought because it also kind of makes me wonder how much of it is them trapped inside themselves and slowly being able to come back out, or how much of it is like they just aren't there anymore. I feel like it might be and are slowly becoming them again.
SPEAKER_01:From like get out, using get out. No. I have, but I don't remember what you're talking about. So when she like does her little ritual and then ting ting taps the teacup and he like falls back into like his subconscious type, you know, situation where she just like he's falling in this dark void and he can see the light coming from his eyes, but he can't do anything about it. I feel like it's that. Oh wow.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, yeah, yeah. That makes sense. Like, cause that that seems kind of similar to like this. Like at least that's like that's one option, you know, because like I said, it's either like they're trapped inside themselves and they they just are slowly coming back out, or like they are gone and they are slowly becoming human again. Kind of like starting as a baby, starting fresh, but you're already five or six or whatever.
SPEAKER_00:So I think kind of the same way, but differently. I think like coming out of a coma. Sure. You know, it's very similar, like you're saying, but it you're not starting over like at birth, but a lot of ways you have to, right? Starting to speak again, to learn how to walk again, starting to walk again. Like all of those things after uh coming out of a coma are very common uh to go through. There's struggles.
SPEAKER_03:Now I wonder if any of them suddenly just knew how to play piano now. Yeah, that or speak Chinese.
SPEAKER_00:Brain brain trauma causes the craziest things, you know. We don't know anything about our own brains.
SPEAKER_03:It it is remarkable how little we know about both our ocean and our brains.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:I mean, brains are we've gone complicated, you know. We've gone further in space. It's just a bunch of fucking squiggles in your skull.
SPEAKER_03:That is what's wild to me. We know more about the moon and about our immediate space area than we do about our own ocean.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:That's wild. I feel like we should do a little more research on our ocean. You'd think.
SPEAKER_00:So here's a uh part in the movie that frustrated me, but at the same time, I felt added so much realism. She's running through the gas station store, the convenience store from Marcus, and the gas station attendant yells at her, Yeah, get out of my store. Yeah. And she yells, Fucking help me.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And I thought, like, it's it's so ridiculous, but at the same time, okay, let's let's go into 2025. That's so fucking realistic. Yeah. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my god, I that just made made me remember. There was a uh in like New York, there was this like young teenager, and uh fucking some dudes just like rolled up on him thinking that he was a part of a gang, and he started like running, and these motherfuckers had machetes, and he like ran into the fucking convenience store and he was like trying to fucking hide, and like convenience store dude just wasn't doing shit about it, and they dragged him out and murked him very fucked up.
SPEAKER_03:Um Yeah, it it's it's shitty because I mean you kind of think about it and it's like it it's either it's either one of two options, which I highly doubt it's the second, but it's either one, a minimum wage dude who does not want to fucking deal with this craziness, or two, the owner who's like, stop destroying my shit, get the fuck out of here.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:So I I just I don't know. I get I would like to think that you could run into a gas station and get help from the attendant, but at the same time, I'm like, I feel like that's the last place you're gonna get help.
SPEAKER_00:Okay, there is one thing about that scene that bothered me is Marcus was running after her full bore. Archer comes from the side and somehow tries to wrap him up and take him down to the ground, and they both go into the glass of the refrigerator. I'm like, dude, somebody's running that fast and you're running at the side. You just fucking shoulder check them, hip check them, do something like that. Yeah, and they're gonna fly into the glass because they don't he wasn't even there. You stay standing upright. I was like, why did you try to fucking wrap him up?
SPEAKER_03:I think that also kind of I think it adds a little realism where it's like, I didn't necessarily see Well, no, actually, Archer was police trained. No, he was a police before. Was he? I think they implied that he was he used to be an officer. Because when he spoke to the police chief, I think it was the chief or the lieutenant.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he did seem like he was on like a first name basis.
SPEAKER_03:He said Yeah, the guy the police chief or the lieutenant or whatever he was was like, Yeah, but you're not on this case.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_03:Like he was basically telling, like, you're not a cop anymore. Like, this is not your job anymore.
SPEAKER_00:I I could I could see your point, but I didn't take it that way. Well, but but what he said was uh because they don't report to you.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:He's like, Why didn't I know about that?
SPEAKER_03:But that that kind of implies something like I used to have some sort of position.
SPEAKER_00:I see your point.
SPEAKER_03:And he's like, Yeah, but they don't report to you.
SPEAKER_00:Like, did you also like them the nuance, the detail, how he was fucking up so bad at work?
SPEAKER_03:Like yes, I loved that where he's like, No, I fucked up. I fuck I ordered the wrong shit. That's my bad. Like two things the foreman's like, dude, you you But I also think it's like, dude, your kid just went missing.
SPEAKER_00:No, I get it.
SPEAKER_03:Like stopped working.
SPEAKER_00:That like that's the reality.
SPEAKER_03:Stop trying to do this right now.
SPEAKER_00:I I I If I may, it's like it's like somebody that I know, his uh his boss just had a baby at this point and was still trying to come into work and was fucking everything up. It was like, dude, go home.
SPEAKER_03:Just take your hands off shit and walk. I won't say who this was. Just take your hands off shit and let your general manager do what they gotta do.
SPEAKER_00:That's that you know, it's just it's a story I heard. It's apocryphal. It may or may not be true.
SPEAKER_03:But yeah, I I agree. Uh but I think that added a lot of realism because it's also like I'm a bit of a workaholic, and I think I understand where it's like if you're going through something, the last thing I want to do is just be at home all day.
SPEAKER_02:Right.
SPEAKER_03:If I'm going through something, I kind of want to just get to something familiar that I know I know how to do. Right. But I mean, that also runs the risk of now you're gonna be fucking up because you're not in your right mind.
SPEAKER_00:You're not because when you're at work, you're gonna be thinking about this thing at home. But you're trying to go away from home because all you're doing is thinking about this thing at home.
SPEAKER_03:You're trying to stop thinking about it. And I mean that's where I like that's where I think therapy is important because like you have to learn that you can't just run away from it, you gotta actually deal with it. And the way he was dealing with it was trying to solve it.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Um, which he actually did, so to his credit, and so solve it.
SPEAKER_00:And so did the little alcoholic teacher, man. She she bothered me so much until I I went through it in my head and was like, you know what? No, this is just a really good portrayal of a person going through an absolutely terrifying and horrible trauma response, and she's doing all the wrong things. You know, you you drinking is just gonna mask it, it's not gonna fix it. Yeah, you know, you're not gonna actually get away from it. The drinking and then how did you like and then like how did you like those nightmares? Oh, like hers, hers was good.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, I was with Archer who was watching it and he jumped. I I jumped like me.
SPEAKER_00:That one gave me a good, a good startle. That one and the other one that gave me the startle was uh I didn't really startle when she came at Archer in his dream uh because he didn't respond, right? He like jumped up and was like, What the fuck?
SPEAKER_03:You know, I wasn't like that one that's the one that fucking startled me because I was not ready for it. I was like, I was mid-talking to them about something. Like I was watching it, but they I was in the Discord call with them. I was like, I was in the middle of talking, I was like, Oh yeah, and then it's like, oh fuck! Jeez, sorry, something scary just happened, and then I went back to say what I was saying, but like it fucking startled me.
SPEAKER_00:You know, the one that actually got me to jump pretty good was when Alex opened the door. And also, by the way, just so you guys know, watching this movie at like 2 a.m. by myself and hearing this creepy fucking lady keep saying Alex over and over again was just like it was so disturbing. But it was it was a she's talking to me, guys. She knows I'm she was talking to me, and I was like, good luck getting my hair. It doesn't even have to be how would that work?
SPEAKER_01:It I think it just has to be like something that you know they did something from them, yeah. Something from them. That's why you think those uh names are the art, the art pieces, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:They all drew their own names and stuff. So it was something that they put, you know, it was of themselves, the essence of them, if you will. So that kind of made sense. I didn't get it at first. I was like, I honestly kind of thought Alex was gonna be a bad guy because I understood the position he was in. Just going along with it, but it was they kept emphasizing uh Matthew bullying him. And so I thought, oh shit, did this kid like start out doing this willfully? Like, like really willfully.
SPEAKER_03:The only reason I didn't think that is because he was still feeding them all.
SPEAKER_00:But we didn't know that at the time.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I guess so. But I mean, he never gave me that vibe. He he gave me the vibe of like a sweet kid who's being bullied, and that sucks. But he never gave me the vibe of a kid who uh would do anything like malicious.
SPEAKER_00:Oh man, he made me like I didn't believe it, but then the sweetest kids sometimes are the ones who just snap. And I was like, oh shit, what's gonna happen? Is is this lady gonna turn around? Like, I was going the exact opposite direction, thinking like, oh, the parents seem so nice and wholesome and wonderful up front, but is there something dark and sinister behind the scenes? And this aunt comes along and is like, Oh, your parents are doing this and this, and I'm gonna stop them from hurting you, and then start like I was this was how fast my brain went when they were like hypnotized at the table. And he was like, Dad, dad. And I was like really bothered by her, but I was like, Oh shit, how is Matthew gonna tie into this? Because they had already shown you two examples of him being bullied by Matthew. I'm like, I wonder if this fucking lady's gonna be like, get me somebody, you know, who do you not like? You know, are you having trouble in school? She comes as like a hero because all abusers do that. Yeah, they come as like the hero and solve your problem, but then he was absolutely innocent in this. She just terrorized him and was like, Don't talk about me.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, he had to just go along with it because he cared about his parents.
SPEAKER_01:Did you notice that she is possibly not even fucking related to him?
SPEAKER_03:I didn't gather that.
SPEAKER_01:So basically dad, as he's talking to uh his son in the car, right? He's like, Oh, yeah, I remember haven't seen her in like 15 years, right? And then he's talking to his wife, you know, we haven't seen her in like so long or whatever. Um, and then what does she say to the kid? Oh, I haven't seen you since you were just a little baby or whatever. Oh, he's not 15. Yeah, no. Um, and then there's also like Whoa, I didn't catch that. Um there's hints about like what she really is, like throughout the movie. I just remember all this right now, like it's been like a week, but I did a bunch of stuff, like I watched a bunch of videos on it. But um the what they were learning in school, like when she showed up, they were learning about parasites. What the principal and his husband were watching, it was a thing about the antice parasites right? The cordyceps. So I think she was literally just a parasite, like she implants memories or something into your like brain to make you think that she's supposed to be there, you know?
SPEAKER_00:That is an interesting take. I didn't catch that. You got me on. I didn't even catch how they hadn't seen him in 15 years, and this boy is like eight.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah. No, I mean, yeah, I mean, maybe even younger than that. That that yeah, that alone right there is enough for me to 100% believe that. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_01:And like relatable on his part. You remember being in a kid, and then they're like your parents are like, Hey, look who it is, and the fucking just a random person. Hey, kid, remember when I was holding you as a baby when you didn't have memories? You remember good times?
SPEAKER_03:It's like even to this day, man. I swear, still to this day, I'll randomly meet family members who are like, Oh my gosh, I haven't seen you since you were like three. Do you remember me? No. No, why would how would I remember? Do you have memories at three years old? How would I remember? Bitch, I remember eating memory.
SPEAKER_01:Get out of here.
SPEAKER_03:My first memory was when I was like four, brushing my teeth in a shower. That's my first memory.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, no, I I became sentient playing Sonic the Hedgehog. I became sentient. Yeah, no, like I gained sentient. How old were you? I I like maybe three or four. I don't know. I don't really remember. But that's like my first memory, is just sitting, and like I wasn't even fucking playing it. And I think there I remember it was like I was being like babysat and I was just like sitting watching the screen, like watching Sonic do his little toe tap because he was just standing there. Like I don't know.
SPEAKER_03:So do you think there's do you think there was anything like I don't know how to word this, because maybe maybe this is just a bad thought, but do you think there was anything like exhilarating or exciting about the whole situation to Alex that he was a little more willing to go along with? Uh because like ultimately he was going along with it because his parents were at stake. But there was like this, like the way that she would just be like, oh, today we're gonna do this, and then this weird shit would happen, exactly like she said, like, where she's like, Oh, they're gonna come inspect the house tomorrow, so we gotta send the kids out. And then he's standing there with her on the porch while she sends the kids out. Like, do you think there was anything in it where it's like this is fucking creepy, but kinda cool?
SPEAKER_00:I mean, I I I I think it's absolutely horrific. And I I gotta say, I kind of liked the I don't know how to say this right, but I kind of liked how they made the link between all of them that weird run.
SPEAKER_03:Mm-hmm. The Naruto run? Naruto. It was Naruto run. It was like T pose. It was like a T-pose run.
SPEAKER_00:It was kind of strange though. It was a strange running pose. It was a huge and for how fast they ran. I mean, you need your arms to run that fast.
SPEAKER_03:It's a very iconic, like I think it'll become a very iconic part of this movie. It's a very uh what's the right word I'm looking for? Like that was a huge marketing point of this movie was that T Pose run. That it was all over every trailer, every poster. Like, that's what I knew this movie as was the kids T-Pose running.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Now very um I see uh I see an expanded universe, uh what do you call it? A teaser that um Zach Krager is hinting at an Aunt Gladys prequel to show her origins. That would be cool. Would you be interested in that?
SPEAKER_01:I'd be down because I feel like they kind of hint at her being like older than you think she is. Uh-huh. Like the reason that because like okay, so like when she's up in her room and he like comes across her and she's like throwing up in the bowl. You remember that? Right. I think that's because uh the life force of uh his parents wasn't enough to like keep her alive, and that's why she needed all those kids, you know, kind of witchy shit, she's trying to stay young.
SPEAKER_00:It's like they were too old.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So I I think that's why but like I wanna maybe she was in like the witch trials or some shit, you know, like it'd be cool.
SPEAKER_00:No, I kind of I kind of get that because it was like at first I'm thinking like, oh, this is cancer or something like that, but no, there this could just be that she's you know 300 years old and living off of the the vitality and life of other people.
SPEAKER_03:I I'm just saying if I see an old woman walk in looking like the Joker into my school, I don't trust you. Yeah, I don't care if you're the sweetest old woman, I don't trust you. If you walk out the house looking like the Joker and that doesn't bother you, I don't trust you.
SPEAKER_00:And her smile was very much like mine. Oh yeah. It wasn't it wasn't it wasn't uh what is the word comforting? It wasn't easing.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, when she the second she walked into that into the principal's office, I I don't trust you. I don't care anything that you say. I'm sorry. It it's that's a no for me.
SPEAKER_00:So we covered the thing on this podcast. What we didn't cover uh are more of uh John Carpenter's films. Now we did talk about in that film that that was a part of John Carpenter's apocalypse trilogy. We never went on to any of the others, which was uh the thing, uh Prince of Darkness, and when what is it? Madness. Um I can't remember the third movie. You don't you didn't I thought we we brought this up in the in the episode. He did an apocalypse trilogy, and one of them was um Prince of Darkness. And one of the things that Aunt Gladys really portrayed well was in that movie there was a scene where a person was being possessed by the devil, and she did that exact creepy smile that Aunt Gladys did, where there's nothing warm about that kind of smile, there's nothing easing, comforting, or disarming. You know, you see that and you can't help but wonder you're on guard. Yeah, how did the people watching this, like for instance, Marcus's husband, how did he not put up his guard? You know, as they say, it's the survival instincts of a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, well, I think that's like that's that's an example of like too good of a of a heart where you're like, oh, I'm gonna assume always the best. Exactly. No instincts to just be like, I don't care who you are, that's not it was normal.
SPEAKER_00:A TikTok video this week I saw of a woman feeding a bear by hand.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my god, I seen that too. Did you? Yeah, it's it's like she has there's like two fucking bears and she's on the porch.
SPEAKER_00:That's that's what they said was this is uh the the survival instincts of a pigeon. Literally.
SPEAKER_03:It's like yeah, look, I'm a huge animal lover, but with that comes a knowledge of what animals can do and how unpredictable animals can be.
SPEAKER_00:And and it's also you can't feed bears because they're naturally lazy, they're gonna.
SPEAKER_03:Keep coming back.
SPEAKER_00:Yep.
SPEAKER_03:Don't do that. Like honestly, don't feed any animal that you don't want to keep coming back.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:The same with like cats. If you feed a cat, it's gonna keep coming back.
SPEAKER_00:You know that's why they don't care up in Alaska. They have spots where you can actually go and see the bears because it's at the dump. It's at the landfill.
SPEAKER_03:There they got food.
SPEAKER_00:And they go and they eat there, and you can stand there on the railing and throw them food because the bears will always come back to that spot and get food. So they're not gonna come to you. You know what I mean? You're gonna be back at your cabin somewhere. They're not gonna follow you there. They're gonna go back to the dump.
SPEAKER_03:You know, that's similar to why they say uh um, they say don't feed feral cats, leave out milk.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, that's what I say.
SPEAKER_03:Because they they drink it, it fills them up a little bit, but then they'll keep hunting in your area. So they'll stick around your area, but they're not gonna rely on you for food. Yeah. So they they like their little treat. They get they get the sugar out of the milk, they they like the taste, they enjoy it, but they still have to hunt. So they still help you by hunting rats and stuff in your area.
SPEAKER_00:The suggestion is don't put out um milk, cow's milk, put out pet milk.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:It's better for them.
SPEAKER_01:Um, not gonna lie, though, if like a bear or evaporated milk is all like sweet and nice to me, you know, just like walks up on me one day and it's like trying to, you know, get some pets. I might risk it for the biscuit. Like, because like who's who who's gonna say, you know, who's gonna say I pet a bear, you know? Just pretend you're Russian, and then I think just naturally the bear will be. You brought up Alaska and Bears. And isn't there did have you ever heard of that dude who was like, I guess, friendly with bears or something up in Alaska? Yep, and he like recorded his death.
SPEAKER_00:Yep.
SPEAKER_01:And apparently a friend of his or somebody. Somebody has the recording, but like will never like release it.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I'm glad. There's no reason to.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, no, it's like it's fucked up, but like you're a little curious, except as maybe a a warning not to do that.
SPEAKER_00:I mean his death is a warning. Uh you don't you don't need to watch him get mauled by a grizzly, you know what's gonna happen.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Don't a lot of oh and a lot of oh my fucking god, you know? Like I don't know if it was a lot. Dogs happen pretty quick.
SPEAKER_03:Dogs alone can be incredibly deadly and dangerous. Like as somebody who works with dogs and who has been in the pet industry for eight plus years, it it can be very dangerous. Certain dogs can be very unpredictable. I mean unpredictable. I put in quotes because it's if you read body language, there's very few dogs that are actually do something unpredictable. Yep, and then there's most of the time there are signs.
SPEAKER_01:Rage syndrome and shit.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, there's very few, like there's only one video I've ever seen on Instagram, which uh I felt validated because there's this one account that I follow that uh I wish I remembered his name, but he he watches these videos and then he gives his commentary on it. And I remember watching this video before I even saw his commentary on it. I watched this video of a Rottweiler, um uh uh the woman's in her car, and the Rottweiler has his paws up on the window and her window's down and she's petting the Rottweiler, and the the dog seems fine. All the body language seems normal. Out of nowhere, dog bites her. And it's one of those situations where I I rewatched it like five or six times, and I'm like, I don't see any signs that this dog is about to bite her. His mouth is open, no hackles, no lip biting, no bat, no ears going back, no whale eyes, nothing. Yeah, no signs that this dog is about to do anything, and he bit her. I'm like, I'm it's just so shocking because normally you could find some signs. And so I heard this guy's commentary, and he was like, This is the one video I've ever seen where I genuinely don't blame the person because I would have done the exact same thing. He's like, actually, I wouldn't have because I wouldn't have been petting a stray dog. But at the same time, it's like there was no signs that this dog was about to do that. And so, all that to say, like, it's not to say that an animal can't be unpredictable, but part of an animal is that they are animals. Right. You know, it you they don't speak English, you can't really communicate with them like that. Don't go petting bears and feeding bears and shit. Don't uh don't try to you're not uh Snow White. Yeah, don't it's this is not a Disney movie. Animals are real and they are dangerous. Dogs can kill people. Don't fuck with something that weighs 30 times what a dog weighs and has the bite force way more than any dog.
SPEAKER_00:I mean, everybody has to have heard that that clip of the woman calling 911 because her friend was getting mauled by her chimpanzee.
SPEAKER_01:Dude, oh my god, that's horrible. If anybody ever like if I'm at somebody's house and like, you wanna my my fucking pet chimpanzee? No. Goodbye. Nope. No, because as soon as they see me here, they're gonna be like, damn, she really hates me now. I guess I gotta kill the thing that's taking all of her attention, which is me.
SPEAKER_00:It's you know it's insane, you know, and and and the way that they are so they seem and appear so loving, but the strength behind them, you gotta respect these animals, man.
SPEAKER_03:That's what we say in in training and and in rescues is that's a lot of dog. That's to be and essentially saying, like, that dog is powerful, right? Don't fuck with that dog. You're gonna get overpowered. There was the I remember there was this there was a shepherd that I was just walking to a kennel, and he he got a little reactive and he started pulling and he made me dirt surf for a little bit. My feet had no traction. I was just going with him for a second before I was able to to get my strength and and reel him in. And once I got him in the kennel, I I I I told it was my mentor, I told her I was like, that that's a lot of dog. Yeah, that guy can overpower me. I I don't I can't work with him. I because he already had some aggressive tendencies. I was like, if he decided to get aggressive with me, I can't stop him. Yep. And I I think it's important with animals, especially when you work with animals, you have to know your limitations. You don't want to be working with a dog who can overpower you easily and has aggression issues. You you don't want to find yourself on the other end of a of an aggressive dog.
SPEAKER_00:So here's just a uh here's just a funny moment from my watching this movie. Gladys tells Alex she's sitting at the table with him, and she had them stab their face with the forks.
SPEAKER_03:Oh yeah, that was awful.
SPEAKER_00:And she tells him, after she stops them, she tells them, tells Alex, I can make your parents hurt themselves. I can make them hurt each other, I can make them eat each other if I want to. Do I want to, Alex? And I shit you not, guys. I'm sitting there looking at the the movie on the couch, and I'm nodding my head no.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, I don't want you to say no.
SPEAKER_00:No, you don't you don't want to. I was like that. This this movie was very captivating to me. Um it's funny that you say that it was a little uh less than. Um, I thought it was very well done. I do think that they missed some opportunity with TJ's point. They could have gone hard with the true story aspect with the found footage.
SPEAKER_03:Well, I just think the the only thing is I think they just revealed the antagonist too early. I think they could have left a little more suspense, maybe not as much as signs, although I think signs did it flawlessly. I but I think they just they revealed her within the first hour of the movie.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:And it's like, well, at that point, then like I have another hour of this movie where I already know who the bad guy is and what their whole deal is. So like all the suspense, which is most of horror, yeah, is is already gone. Yeah, and that was my only complaint with the new.
SPEAKER_01:Now that I'm thinking about it, I kind of do see the the whole you know allegory for addiction and like alcoholism and living with somebody like that.
SPEAKER_03:How?
SPEAKER_01:Oh like So look at little kid, what's his name? Main kid? Alex. Alex, right? So look at Alex. I was expecting you to look over at Alex. Um so look at Alex, right? I am looking. Okay. He you know what happens when like a kid lives with like an alcoholic parent, you know, like they're quiet, you know, they like shit like that. But then he also he has to like provide for the adults, you know? And he has to like go he goes shopping by himself, he has to clean up after them, you know. Like, do you you kind of see it? I kind of see it.
SPEAKER_00:No, I I get that. I get that the feeding them, cleaning up after them. He had to clean the whole house when the police were gonna come over, which I also think is something legit. An abuser would have the whole house cleaned up when guests are gonna come, they're gonna put on the appearance.
SPEAKER_03:So here's what I'm so here's my thought. It's not like I walk around my neighborhood often, like looking at people's windows and whatnot. But I have a dog, I take walks. You're telling me no one noticed that this house suddenly had newspaper covering every window, and nobody thought to be like, you know what? Yeah, in a nice neighborhood, you're telling me nobody was like I might just alert the authorities just to go check on them. Because that's not normal. And it's not illegal, but it's fucking weird.
SPEAKER_01:I would be a little suspicious. I mean, yeah, all of a sudden, like this nice family in this nice neighborhood starts fucking putting newspapers on the windows and just turns into a trap house. Like, yeah. Somebody's gotta say, I'd be like, none of the police stopped checking on them.
SPEAKER_03:Like I'd be like, what what is uh what's happening there, huh? Why why is that why is that going on? But I'm okay. I'm also trying to put myself in real life, if I ever saw that. If I was walking by a house and saw that all their windows had newspaper all over it.
SPEAKER_00:That it was nice one day, yeah, and very shortly after.
SPEAKER_03:Do I legitimately think like maybe I should call the police and just may like non non-emergency line, just call them and be like, hey welfare check. This is I I this might just be I might just be wrong. This might just be weird, but this is fucking weird. This doesn't seem right to me. Like I'm trying to think, would I actually do that or would I just walk by and be like, that's fucking weird, and not really think anything of it.
SPEAKER_01:And like the cops, right? Because Gladys goes to like fucking talk with them and says, Oh, I'm taking care of the parents. They didn't look into that. Yeah, to be like, Well, let me see them. Well, get let me see your fucking papers, you know. And like, you know, check in with the dad has to have a job.
SPEAKER_00:Right.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, that's a damn good point. Right. The mom and the dad, nobody's curious what's going on with them because they're not going to work.
SPEAKER_00:Claim that he had a stroke. She's the caretaker. What what documents support this? Because that has to be that has to be documented in court.
SPEAKER_03:Where's medical power of attorney?
SPEAKER_01:Right. Also, you're old as fuck. How are you taking care of two fucking adults?
SPEAKER_00:Right. So here's a little interesting point of fact for you, TJ. Did you know that Jordan Peel was very close to making this movie with his uh monkey paw studio? Really? I was very close.
SPEAKER_01:I feel like it could have turned out slightly good better.
SPEAKER_00:He was seven million dollars under the offer from New Line.
SPEAKER_01:I know he's fucking pissed too, because he just released or he just produced um what's that him that I'm pretty sure that movie fucking bombed. It was like a football movie. I didn't even hear about it. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_00:Check this out. I I don't if he's pissed, that might not be why. Because he made the offer, it was seven million dollars less, and he was ready to provide the amount of money through his contractual back end, but Universal was uneasy about the budget and walked away. And here's the really crooked part. I I don't know if crooked is the right word. I don't want to be that strong. We're gonna say controversial. Peel and Krieger share the same manager, and just recently Peel released his management. Oh, so you think he got mad that he got mad that he was representing both walk away. I mean, he should have walked away during this this bargaining. He should have said, I can't, I can't do that. I gotta I can't represent both. I gotta sub somebody in for you.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, that's kind of shitty. That sucks.
SPEAKER_00:But you know, I'm sure there's a story. The other story that I'm I'm reading on IMDB, uh, the principal and his husband's meal of seven hot dogs is a tribute to Trevor Moore from his skit Hot Dog Timmy on the TV show The Whitest Kids You Know. And I didn't know this part. Trevor Moore passed away and he was friends of Zach Krieger.
SPEAKER_01:Aw. And didn't he? I think I think he passed away from drugs. Oh, okay. So I that that's another reason why there's like the drug connection. Oh, speaking of drugs, you get stabbed in the face with three needles. What do you do?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, dude. Like I said, he got stabbed a second time. So mad, that was funny. At that point, I'm like, he that drugie is so lucky he didn't shoot him. Cause oh my twice.
SPEAKER_01:Twice as insane.
SPEAKER_03:I'd be so upset.
SPEAKER_01:Technically four times because it's three needles.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah. So but also, but at the same time, it's like, uh, I really I did feel for the for the druggie there because he he was being haunted for a little bit there.
SPEAKER_00:So okay, so something that I will say about this is that that was one of the scenes that I would classify as humorous because I was told, you know, reading reading up on this movie ahead of time that I was gonna laugh more than I was gonna jump. And one of the parts that I did kind of chuckle at was the crackhead keep getting up and coming after uh Archer.
SPEAKER_03:Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_00:And he kept throwing him around. I'm like, okay, come on. All right, fine, and then all of a sudden she comes up and just blasts. I was like, damn, but I was pretty upset that she put the gun down. Like I was so mad that like what why do you assume that there's no other threat near you?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I there was a couple times throughout that that scene in the house where I'm like, there are still bad guys in the house, and you know there are. Like, they didn't go up to help Alex until it was already over. I know. I'm like, the child that's upstairs, you didn't think to go help him.
SPEAKER_00:Which how did you not hear the the slamming of the doors and like banging on them, breaking them down?
SPEAKER_03:I guess it's good that they didn't because then they would have killed his parents and ultimately they survived in the end.
SPEAKER_01:Well, I think they're there was a little state that they're in because he he But you are you guys old enough to know or young enough?
SPEAKER_00:I don't know the right way to say that. Uh Matilda?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, we know Matilda. Well, I know Matilda.
SPEAKER_00:Uh was this a little Trudge Bull and Miss Honey? I know much darker, but because apparently Trudgable and Honey were related. Yeah. And so Alex went to go stay with his nice aunt. That's that's what I I that's what I got when the narrator said that he went to go live with his nice aunt. I was like, oh, that's fucking Miss Honey.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I mean, well, I wonder if the well here's kind of like an interesting thought experiment that there's no way to really know, but I wonder if the parents would gain back their their sense of self sooner than the children would. Or maybe the opposite. Or longer.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, maybe it'd be the opposite. I think it's just it matters how long they were under the like spell.
SPEAKER_03:That's what I was thinking. They were the first two, so they might take even longer to come back.
SPEAKER_00:And I wonder also if or if they even can. If the ultimate result is death. That's what I'm I'm kind of thinking. The ultimate result is death for all of them. Like maybe Gladys was able to keep herself alive as long like throughout the natural life of the of the person, and then when they died, she rapidly deteriorated.
SPEAKER_03:And that's why she constantly needed more.
SPEAKER_00:That's why she yeah, that and I think that's also why she got kids, because that gave her the most longevity. And getting that many kids must have given her quite the boost because there was also like I I got the vibe of vampirism, but I think it seemed to get stronger or like more healthy. She only went out at night, but I kind of thought that was possible because she was just so ugly.
SPEAKER_03:Well, she no, she went out during the day. She went to the school and then she went to the principal's house.
SPEAKER_00:But wasn't that after she had already gotten the kids?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, it was.
SPEAKER_00:Because like when she first moved in.
SPEAKER_01:The dad mentions like she looks rough. Like she's not gonna last, you know, a month.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah. I bet she won't I w I bet she won't be here more than a month.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. So she was probably like real cooked when uh she showed up with her weird ass tree, which I she's like, carry this in for me.
SPEAKER_03:Oh yeah. No, I wouldn't allow someone to bring that tree in. Oh man. I don't know. You bring a bonsai, sure. You bring an aloe, sure. You bring that you bring a dead ash, I don't know. I don't know if I'm letting that in my house. I I think just from a pure decoration, also spiritual side, I'm okay. Maybe that one stays. But overall, I think I think a good movie, I would say eight out of ten. I I feel like some people would put it higher, but I think that's pretty fair.
SPEAKER_00:I'd give it an eight out of ten. I think it's fair.
SPEAKER_03:I think it was a I think it was a really good movie.
SPEAKER_00:And I would watch it again.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I would. I I I'd maybe give it some time, but I'd watch it again for sure. If somebody if somebody were to say like, hey, do you want to watch weapons with me? I'd be like, yeah, sure. Sure. Totally. All right. Well, uh, let me calculate the points. I have come up with uh a calculated total. Uh don't ask me for the numbers. Uh are we ready? Yep. Alex!
SPEAKER_00:Yeah! I knew it because, you know, I'm just the best.
SPEAKER_03:Well, one TJ was playing Minecraft this whole time.
SPEAKER_00:But also, um We're not gonna we're not gonna bring that part up. It's just that I'm the best.
SPEAKER_01:No, I did like your input in this movie. I'm I'm pretty sure it was uh because I was playing Minecraft. I think I had the best way more input with stuff, you know. I actually did research with the movie and you know all that. But you know, it's fair, it's fair.
SPEAKER_00:He did say with that, yeah, he did. He did he did warn you, but that's not why.
SPEAKER_01:But like hear me out. It was winner's speech, winner's speech, Alex.
SPEAKER_00:I am the absolute best, and no, I'm just kidding. I thank you all for making me the winner that I am, and appreciate your dedication to Will You Survive the Podcast. Want to remind you to check out our YouTube page where we're starting to grow and get more subscribers, and we have some new playlists where we're actually playing the podcast, the full podcast episode with all of the small clips, uh the shorts attached to it. And we also have a new playlist called From Scratch where I show you how you can use all of your dry and canned goods so that you can keep restocking them and keep them all fresh. So if SHTF, you can always have your stockpile ready to go, fresh and uh for the taking.
SPEAKER_03:SHTF. I had to I had to think about that one, but that's fine. I like that one. Um TJ, I will say before before your loser speech, I am impressed with how you were able to participate and play Minecraft at the same time. Um but loser speech?
SPEAKER_01:Um I I would say that, you know, it you did warn me uh that I would you know, but I feel I feel like they're there it's a you know a little unfairness, but like, you know, it's fine. I get it. I get it. Uh Alex can pick some old fucking movie, you know.
SPEAKER_00:Well I'm kinda thinking.
SPEAKER_01:Alex, do you see the screen?
SPEAKER_00:What?
SPEAKER_01:Look at look at the stream. Do you see it? Do you see the stream?
SPEAKER_00:You're a jerk. Okay, so there is this movie. It is also twenty twenty five. I'm kind of thinking, how does this sound? With death further strengthening their bond, step siblings Andy and Piper find themselves hastily placed into the foster care system following a tragic home accident. After all, Andy is not yet of legal age to apply for guardianship. He must wait three long months before they move into their new place. Until then, the troubled youth must behave himself as Laura, an empathetic foster mom coping with silent grief, offers to adopt them both into her secluded home in the woods. However, there is something off about the artificially benevolent guardian. Without a doubt, Laura wants something so bad she can taste it. The problem is, she must never bend the rules or break the circle, but just how far is she willing to go to bring her back? This is, I believe it was the uh the case of a mom who is trying to bring her daughter back from the dead, and she's gonna do some kind of a ritual to these is the movie called Bring Her Back Unsuspecting Kid. That's right.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, so that is made by the uh the same guys who made Talk to Me. Is it? Mm-hmm. I'm I'm pretty sure.
SPEAKER_00:Well, I guess because I don't want to steal Talk to Me. If you're gonna pick that movie, I want to leave that for you. But I think this should be our next movie.
SPEAKER_03:I heard that Talk to Me and Bring Her Back were both really good movies.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I would say that they're really good movies. Talk to me is really brutal. I have not seen Bring Her Back yet.
SPEAKER_00:All right, well, good.
SPEAKER_01:This is a I've heard Bring Her Back was like real fucked up. Funny story. It really fucks you up. Funny story. I've heard So it was me, Maddie, was it is it my sister? My sister and Clobert, Eric, right? So me and Maddie, you know, we go to the weed shop, pick up some edibles. Maddie's like, hey, let's eat them in the car, and then when we get to the movie theater, it'll hit, right? And we go to fucking talk to me. Oh no, no, no. And it starts hitting like maybe halfway through the movie, it starts hitting. And dude, like the amount of brutal this movie is plus high does not fucking work out. I was over here manual breathing, and then there's like a fucking kid hitting his face on like the fucking shit and wild.
SPEAKER_00:So when Matt walked out, we were like forgetting to breathe.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I was like, I have to breathe, you know? Oh shit. So me and Matt walked out.
SPEAKER_00:Was it because you were in you were in like so much suspense? Was it just like I did captivated?
SPEAKER_01:It was just too much.
SPEAKER_00:Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01:It was just too much for the high. It was crazy, and then we just walked out and left my sister and her cousin in there. Okay. Um but yeah, I rewatched.
SPEAKER_03:Either of those movies. Either of those movies I'd be very excited to watch.
SPEAKER_00:Well, should we try to do a uh a watch party?
SPEAKER_01:We can do a watch party, we just gotta you know make the like when are we doing it?
SPEAKER_03:If you guys want to do it, absolutely. I I genuinely don't know when I could I don't think I could commit to a time.
SPEAKER_00:Oh no. Okay.
SPEAKER_03:But if I'm available when you guys do it, I'll absolutely do it.
SPEAKER_00:Alright.
SPEAKER_03:I'm just I'm scheduling six days a week and working six days a week, so to be continued then. To be continued.
SPEAKER_00:With that, should we give them our socials?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, uh Alex, you know those.
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SPEAKER_03:If we were on your Spotify wrapped, you should 100% tell us, and we will shout you out because that would be super awesome. And please post it and tag us. That'd be super crazy and awesome.
SPEAKER_01:You know, we would 100% shout you out for that. Also, I I failed the speed run. I I got to the nether and I was getting blaze rods, and I fucking died. Oof.
SPEAKER_00:I'm gonna post some.
SPEAKER_01:And that's why you lost.
SPEAKER_00:I'll be posting some B-roll from uh when we went shooting.
SPEAKER_03:Ah, I wish I got to go.
SPEAKER_00:That was fun. That was a lot of fun to go.
SPEAKER_03:I love shooting guns.
SPEAKER_00:We went through a lot of ammo.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I bet. Alright, well, thank you, everybody, for listening. Uh, thank you, Alex and TJ, for joining me for this episode and for watching this movie. I hope you guys enjoyed this episode, and I hope you guys enjoyed this movie because it was a pretty damn good movie. Uh, and with that, we will talk to you guys in the next episode. Stay alive.
