Will You Survive "We Bury The Dead" pt 1

What do you call the dead who come back not to feast, but to finish what life wouldn’t let them complete? We dive into We Bury The Dead and unravel a story that swaps infection rules for ritual, jump scares for the slow press of guilt, and tidy answers for unnerving questions.

We start with the spark: an experimental U.S. blast off Tasmania that isn’t nuclear but still shatters a city and scrambles what returns. From there, we track Ava’s mission to find her missing husband, and how that search doubles as penance for an affair the film reveals in patient, telling details—the ring on a sink, a face on a badge, a line that lands harder once you think about it. Along the way, we wrestle with the creatures themselves. Are they zombies, ghouls, or something new? The film’s language of “aggravated” rather than “aggressive” sends us down a rabbit hole on behavior, unfinished business, and why some bodies lunge while others just… resume. If Dawn of the Dead critiqued consumption, this story stares at closure, or the lack of it, and dares us to sit with the ache.

Craft gets its due. We praise a visceral blast sequence that sells the wrongness in a single wave, while dinging the copy‑paste look of burning-city VFX. Sound becomes the stealth antagonist—teeth clacks and grinding that gnaw at your nerves and split our panel between admiration and absolute aversion. And yes, we talk performances. Daisy Ridley grounds Ava with a presence that never yanks us out of the frame, proving that “invisible acting” can be the strongest kind when a movie trades spectacle for slow-burn dread. The military thread teases cover‑ups without filing a report, the lore resists neat codex rules, and the ambiguity either invites you in or leaves you cold. We argue both sides, and that friction might be the point.

If you crave clean zombie math, you may bristle. If you’re open to a genre piece that retools the undead into mirrors for grief, guilt, and compulsion, you’ll find ideas worth chewing on—no pun intended. Hit play, then tell us: zombie, ghoul, or a new breed entirely? Subscribe, share with a horror‑loving friend, and drop your take in a review so we can feature it next week.

Transcript

Opening Banter And Set Up

SPEAKER_04 0:23

Hello, survivors, and welcome back to another episode of Will You Survive the Podcast. And I am totally not speedrunning Minecraft again. We've got our two co-hosts. We've got Alex.

SPEAKER_02 0:36

That's me.

First Impressions And Spoiler Flag

SPEAKER_04 0:37

We've got Erike. What is this spawn? I have no idea. Uh, and I am TJ. Uh, today we are talking about a very okay movie. I don't know how you guys felt about it. I felt like it was eh. Um we're talking about We Bear the Dead. So, spoiler alert, this came out last month in America. Uh, apparently it came out last year in uh Australia for our. Which where is that, you know?

SPEAKER_01 1:07

I got beef. I have so much beef. If I hear one more freaking Australian movie where they blame America for everything, I'm gonna lose it. Yeah, they really they kinda do. This is the second one. First it was Little Monsters, right? That was America's fault.

SPEAKER_04 1:26

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_01 1:27

And now it's this one? Oh, dumb America accidentally dropped a nuke, those fucking idiots. What? I'm gonna fight Australia.

SPEAKER_02 1:37

Whole country. But it wasn't Australia. It was Tasmania.

SPEAKER_01 1:43

No, but my problem is with the production company, not with the movie. I mean the people who keep making America. We are not Russia.

SPEAKER_04 1:50

They're both made up, you know.

SPEAKER_01 1:52

Yeah, also, what what the f like what is this? I think we said this recently on the live, but what what is what is Tasmania? They're trying to rip off the Looney Tunes or something.

SPEAKER_02 2:02

That's an island. I mean, uh how does anybody live there with all the Tasmanian devils?

SPEAKER_04 2:06

Yeah, they're running around, they're going, you know, however that motherfucker sounded. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:12

That was what I heard throughout this whole movie.

SPEAKER_04 2:15

Every time they talk? All I heard was what I heard is Daisy Ridley with an American accent, and it does not sound right.

SPEAKER_02 2:22

Well, she wasn't supposed to be. Remember that that soldier walks up to her and says, I can't believe they let any Yanks help out. If it was up to me, I would do a blanket ban.

SPEAKER_04 2:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:31

We're we're Yankees.

SPEAKER_04 2:33

Yeah, so how is that at all? She's supposed to be American. Do you guys get offended by the word Yankee? Because I don't know. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_02 2:40

Just the fact that she's supposed to be American.

SPEAKER_04 2:42

So she was supposed to have the Well, American guys, uh I think we should probably synopsis.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

Oh, well, then why didn't you say so?

SPEAKER_04 2:51

Because, you know, came out last month, nobody really knows.

SPEAKER_02 2:54

We bury the dead, 2025. After a catastrophic military disaster, the dead don't just rise, they hunt. The military insists they are harmless and slow moving, offering hope to grieving families. But when Ava enters a quarantine zone searching for her missing husband, she uncovers the horrifying truth. The undead are growing more violent, more relentless, and more dangerous with every passing hour.

SPEAKER_01 3:21

I'm not gonna lie. That's very short. I don't I don't think that synopsis is very accurate.

SPEAKER_04 3:26

You know, I think they I think they left us. Give your own synopsis.

SPEAKER_01 3:30

Oh, my own synops. Okay. Uh in this movie, girl cheats on well, what's this a little bit spoiler alert?

SPEAKER_02 3:37

Uh we already said spoiler alert.

SPEAKER_01 3:39

No, but I mean even more for the episode.

SPEAKER_02 3:41

Oh, got it.

SPEAKER_01 3:42

Uh girl makes a uh bad mess up, goes to find her husband to make amends, um, and then finds out that uh America sucks. Fuck Australia, and uh these dead people are coming back to life, and they got unfinished business, and uh some of them are aggressive, but some of them aren't. And it's weird, and I don't know what the hell these things are. That's my synopsis.

SPEAKER_04 4:10

You know what? Valid. Okay, so basically at the start of the movie, America drops this experimental bomb off the coast of Tasmania, eliminating the entire island's people by uh it's like an EMP type blast. So it kinda you know shut off their entire brain, you know, because there's electrical impulses in it. Um, and then a lot of people died, and then some of them came back after.

SPEAKER_02 4:33

That's that's pretty accurate right there.

SPEAKER_04 4:35

Uh did you guys hear any accent slip with Daisy Ridley though? Because I did. I heard it a couple times. I was like, this British.

SPEAKER_01 4:42

I am apparently so bad at hearing accents. She doesn't even like it.

SPEAKER_04 4:48

Was that what you meant? American Eric.

SPEAKER_02 4:52

That's what you meant. I was wondering why you were talking about her accent. I was like, no, it was okay. She's supposed to be American. But she's British, huh?

SPEAKER_04 5:01

She is, I think.

SPEAKER_02 5:03

I can't believe you would say such a why why would you say such an absurdly stupid thing?

SPEAKER_01 5:09

Yeah. She can't be part of a made-up line. Yeah, and I'm from fucking Morgan.

SPEAKER_02 5:12

Does she exactly? Like, since when did since when did uh Daisy Ridley become uh a Hogwarts student?

SPEAKER_04 5:21

I mean she was a magical space wizard in uh Star Wars.

Are They Zombies Or Something Else

SPEAKER_02 5:25

And it was it was identical to uh Harry Potter. Star Wars? That was what I heard. J.K. Rowling did not write a masterpiece, she wrote Star Wars with Sucky Lightsabers.

SPEAKER_03 5:36

Yeah. I don't think Harry fucked his sister. That is a big part of Star Wars.

SPEAKER_02 5:41

No, Luke didn't bang his sister.

SPEAKER_03 5:44

I don't think he didn't bang his sister. He kissed her, though. And the version I watched, he did. Freako. Sorry, what?

SPEAKER_02 5:50

He did kiss her.

SPEAKER_03 5:51

We should probably talk about the actual movie, though. So anyway, Star Wars episode two.

SPEAKER_04 5:57

So a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.

SPEAKER_01 6:04

So uh I you want to hear my reading of this movie? Yeah. Two out of ten.

SPEAKER_02 6:09

Ouch.

SPEAKER_01 6:09

You know what? 3.5 out of 10.

SPEAKER_02 6:12

No, come on!

SPEAKER_01 6:13

Okay, so here's the thing. Here's the thing. The acting, I didn't have a problem with. I thought it was great. The story, I thought it was great. The honestly, a lot of what people have a problem with this movie for, I didn't think it was a problem. I actually really like this movie. Uh, but it loses six points because the teeth shit. I hate teeth shit so much. And the whole crunching of the teeth and the grinding, I spent most of the movie in cringe position.

SPEAKER_02 6:38

I think that that it's a little harsh of a rating. However, I'm not going to invalidate it because they left a lot to be desired with the zombies. The zombies should have been more forceful. The zombies should have been I would have liked to have seen more of the zombies showing some kind of intelligence, being able to hunt them down, etc. That would have been awesome.

SPEAKER_01 7:00

But that's the thing. Like, I don't think that's why I don't think that synopsis is accurate, where it says that the the creatures were getting smart and hunting them down. I don't think that's what they were supposed to do.

SPEAKER_02 7:11

I know.

SPEAKER_01 7:12

Because they they didn't, like, in fact, a lot of them that we saw very explicitly did not hunt them down. Yeah. They just had something they needed to do. They weren't necessarily aggressive. So I don't know how accurate that synopsis is. It doesn't feel accurate to me.

SPEAKER_02 7:26

No.

SPEAKER_01 7:27

Um, and I don't I don't know. I don't think these things were necessarily aggressive. And that's why I'm like, I don't know how much I consider these. Only some were. But I don't know how much of these I how much I really consider these to be zombies.

SPEAKER_02 7:39

I consider them zombies. Does it no?

SPEAKER_04 7:41

Does it like cause for zombies to be zombies? Because you know, I wasn't here for the WIS zombie, you know, like the perfect zombie.

SPEAKER_02 7:50

Because you sucked, you didn't you didn't come out.

SPEAKER_01 7:52

I was spungle anyways, so um duh do zombies re require being able to transmit see that's what I was kind of thinking, like typically so like by a pure technicality, yes, they're zombies because they they come to life they're dead and then they come to life, but they're not coming alive from voodoo, which would be like the most uh uh canonic or something. OG So the I think the definition of what a zombie is is kind of loose. I don't know how much I consider these to be zombies because yes, they're they were dead and came alive, but they they they're they're one not attacking people, which is a pretty common trope of zombie.

SPEAKER_02 8:34

Well, not all of them were attacking people.

SPEAKER_01 8:36

But that's the thing, like in a zombie movie they want to infect, or like they want to eat. This wasn't the case with these ones. And so I just think that I don't know what these are. I I would consider them closer to being a ghoul than a zombie. Because I think ghoul is a little looser and has a little more leniency of what it is, you know?

SPEAKER_04 8:59

Yeah, but they were kind of also similar to like some other zombies where they like kind of like the the one in the woods where it's was burying the dead. Right, that was weird. Um was like you know, why? Why that? But like there's some zombies where they will keep doing like the thing they were doing.

SPEAKER_01 9:20

But I think that's the unfinished business thing that it was talking about. Yeah, which I actually really liked that. I thought that was really cool. Wait, but that's what I mean like that.

SPEAKER_04 9:28

Not all of them did that though. It's so exactly like these were so inconsistent in like what they were doing.

Teeth Motif And Body Horror Reactions

SPEAKER_01 9:33

But that's what I mean. Like, these weren't just like these they weren't just trying to hunt people down, they had something to do. And I think like the so the crazy guy, right? Where he was keeping them them chained up and he was keeping uh a record of like how aggressive they were getting, what the teeth level was, like all that stuff. I I think he had a point that he he said a specific word. He didn't say they were getting they would get more aggressive the longer that they were alive or or undead. He said that they got aggravated. So I don't know. So what does that mean? Well, I think it means that they're not necessarily aggressive, but although some of them were like I guess the yoga lady was. At least she seemed aggressive. She didn't really seem friendly.

SPEAKER_02 10:17

The yoga lady?

SPEAKER_01 10:18

Yeah. You remember where she was she was in like that I don't know. Remember when she walked into that courtyard area that had all the people on the yoga mats?

SPEAKER_02 10:28

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:29

Yeah, and then like the one came up to the window.

SPEAKER_04 10:31

Was she aggressive though, or did she just like walk up and she couldn't get through the glass, so I think she was kind of trying.

SPEAKER_02 10:39

So I'm I'm curious though, do they show us that zombie for absolutely no reason whatsoever, or were we supposed to link that zombie with the one that Home Dude was having the affair with?

SPEAKER_04 10:50

I don't I no so the one that he was having an affair with was the employee of the month that was on the wall. I remember that.

SPEAKER_01 11:01

Oh, that makes sense. Because well, they never showed the body, they just showed that she looked in the bathroom, and then uh apparently, like our guess is that she saw her in the bathroom.

SPEAKER_02 11:12

I I didn't get that though. I saw her go into the bathroom, she looked, and his wedding ring was on the bathroom sink. That was what I thought the significance of the bathroom was. He took his wedding ring off to do this thing.

SPEAKER_01 11:25

I thought she was like in the bathroom, maybe taking a shower when the bomb went off. Yeah, no, where was she?

SPEAKER_02 11:30

Unless she's married too. Maybe she took her wedding ring. But I I could have sworn she looked at his hand and saw that there was no wedding ring, and then she went into the bathroom and saw that it was in there. Like the significance being that he took his wedding ring off in another room that he was able to close the door and get down with this lady. But then the only thing she saw, so you said it was the picture uh employee of the month picture on the wall. I don't remember an employee of the month. I remember the didn't she also pick up a badge that had a woman's face on it? That was why I thought I just saw a quick glimpse of blonde hair on that badge, and I thought, oh, I wonder if it was that girl from downstairs.

SPEAKER_04 12:14

That was that was kind of like my connection attention to it. Um, but they did kind of you know hold on that employee of the month picture for a second.

SPEAKER_01 12:23

That makes sense.

SPEAKER_04 12:25

They showed the badge for like a long while.

Intelligence, Aggression, And “Aggravated” Undead

SPEAKER_01 12:27

So I was like, okay, there's but I thought the I thought the employee of the month was the yoga lady.

SPEAKER_02 12:32

That was what that was what I thought.

SPEAKER_01 12:33

I think the employee of the month was the yoga lady actually. Because that happened, the yoga lady happened right after it showed you the employee of the month. Yeah. I mean, yeah, they're not I I really think that the I really think that the the one he was having an affair with was in the bathroom. And that's why she when she walked out, she said uh uh she's pretty or she was pretty. I think I think she saw her in there. That would make sense.

SPEAKER_02 13:00

Maybe I didn't I didn't get that at all. I I thought it was from the badge that she looked at. But but anyway, um the other part that I wanted to bring up here, because while you say ghoul, uh ghoul is a very specific thing, and uh they're morphed in in in uh whenever I hear ghoul, I think of fallout. Only Fallout. Only Fallout changes that. Uh the one thing that ghouls have in common with zombies is they do consume flesh. That's one thing that they have in common. But they're um typically portrayed as uh closer to a spirit than a zombie.

SPEAKER_04 13:38

But why do they consume flesh? Okay, let's let's get into the morals of a zombie.

SPEAKER_02 13:43

Zombies have no no morals, they just consume. They're a human without a soul. What are they?

SPEAKER_04 13:50

That kind of sounds like capitalism to me.

SPEAKER_02 13:52

Well, that's that's exactly where that's exactly where George A. Romero was going when he made Dawn of the Dead and he used them all. It was a whole play on consumerism.

SPEAKER_04 14:05

Yeah, I feel like you've definitely said that before.

SPEAKER_02 14:07

Our listeners don't listen to every episode.

SPEAKER_04 14:09

Oh, they should, and they should be downloading every episode and they should be memorizing them all. Memorizing.

SPEAKER_01 14:16

That's crazy. Yeah, you should be able to quote every episode.

SPEAKER_02 14:18

You should be able to quote which episode I said George A.

SPEAKER_04 14:21

Romero made of the dead as a trope code comedy consumerism for at the 34-minute mark.

SPEAKER_02 14:30

Close, close. It was 32.

SPEAKER_04 14:32

Ah. Damn.

SPEAKER_02 14:34

No points for you.

SPEAKER_04 14:35

Well, I am the host, and I think that you should probably get no points.

SPEAKER_01 14:41

Yeah, I would never say that you don't deserve. I think you should get all the points.

SPEAKER_02 14:45

No, no, no, no. C.

SPEAKER_01 14:47

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 14:48

Oh, I'm sorry. Oh, we're getting my my I guess we're all doing other shit today, Eric. That was unprofessional. I don't know what happened.

SPEAKER_01 14:56

Are you you're playing Minecraft?

SPEAKER_04 14:58

What? No, I've what I would never be doing. I said this causing into episode, but I knew I was not doing that.

SPEAKER_01 15:04

I have to open this because it's constitutionally required.

SPEAKER_02 15:07

It is true. It is constitutionally required to have a uh beverage in your hand.

SPEAKER_04 15:12

And I spilled all over beverages there to my right.

SPEAKER_01 15:15

Because this bottle opener on my utility knife is not very good.

SPEAKER_04 15:22

You've you you use the bottle opener that comes on your utility knife? I've don't think I've ever done it.

SPEAKER_02 15:27

Do you not know how to I can open it?

SPEAKER_04 15:32

I can open it with a lighter, I can open it with a piece of paper, I can open it with look at this.

SPEAKER_01 15:36

Look at this. Look at how stupid.

SPEAKER_04 15:39

You're not you know what, Eric? I think this episode you've lost your Mexican. I think I think we're we're taking that from you. You can't have it.

SPEAKER_01 15:48

I've literally opened this with my keychain. I just thought that I would have to do it.

SPEAKER_04 15:52

Why don't you put it on the corner of your desk and slap it?

SPEAKER_01 15:55

Because I don't want to smell all the.

SPEAKER_03 15:58

Yeah, my desk is glass. Yeah. You can't even game art, bro. I don't want to. Oh, that's true.

SPEAKER_02 16:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:05

Come on, brother.

SPEAKER_01 16:07

I'm I'm good at video games, so I don't ever have to do that.

SPEAKER_04 16:11

Valid. Um, so far it's been a crazy Minecraft speedrun. I found a fucking mansion, uh, which are very rare. I did not go inside, I didn't want to die.

SPEAKER_02 16:20

Um That's good.

SPEAKER_04 16:23

Immediately, as soon as uh frickin' army dude showed up, I was like, Oh, he's gonna be on some weird shit. Did you get that feeling he was?

SPEAKER_01 16:33

Not immediately, but the second that he was like, I gotta talk he gotta get his official testimony, and then he was gone forever. I was like, Oh yeah, that's uh I thought he killed him.

SPEAKER_04 16:43

I did too.

SPEAKER_01 16:44

I thought he took him out back and said, Look at the flowers.

SPEAKER_02 16:46

I did too.

SPEAKER_04 16:47

But I thought she was gonna come across him or something, but she it didn't happen. And I was like, Where the hell is he?

Affair Clues And Visual Breadcrumbs

SPEAKER_02 16:52

So he would say Did he ever say what happened?

SPEAKER_01 16:56

Like what No The Friend that Irana.

SPEAKER_02 17:00

Well, no, they have a his name is Clay, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 17:02

They have a funny little dialogue way of doing it, which I thought was kind of clever. But they don't actually answer the question though, where he asks her, How did you get away from from Creepy Guy or whatever he said, and she goes, You first. Basically, like their way of saying we're not gonna retell what we just showed. But also then they don't tell us what how he got away. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_04 17:26

He's just gone. I'm like, okay, he probably got murdered, but he dead ass just like ran away and didn't like follow or nothing.

SPEAKER_01 17:34

Maybe I didn't pay attention, but why was he there? Did he just anticipate that she would be there so he went to see if she would show up?

SPEAKER_02 17:44

Yeah, that's where she said she was gonna go.

SPEAKER_01 17:46

But it didn't really seem like he had a lot of hope that she was gonna survive.

SPEAKER_02 17:50

You think? I didn't get that.

SPEAKER_01 17:52

Like, well, why would why would he?

SPEAKER_02 17:54

The the only other thought that I had regarding why he would go if if he thought that she wasn't gonna survive is to find her husband for her.

SPEAKER_01 18:03

Well, so that's what I kind of wonder. I I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 18:06

Because remember, until they got there, he didn't know the reason why she was looking for him. It was just my husband. That's the most logical thing.

SPEAKER_04 18:14

Yeah, and then throughout the movie they kind of sprinkle in like, oh, they're in love, oh, they're having troubles with their baby stuff, and oh, she cheated apparently. Which like, fuck you.

SPEAKER_02 18:26

Yep. That was that was the moment when she said that, and she said uh when she said why they were where they were, he was down in Tasmania for this whole uh convention thing because she had stepped out and they weren't even on talking conditions, which was explained, so that that made sense, but then it was all the more clear when he did not come back. Yeah, and she was just like yelling at him, which I hate to be the petty one, not really. I like being petty. Uh I thought that was the greatest F you that guy could have given her.

SPEAKER_04 19:06

To be honest, not coming back.

SPEAKER_02 19:07

Not coming back. I got I got nothing left to say. I'm done.

SPEAKER_04 19:12

Yeah, we'll talk about it when I get back.

SPEAKER_02 19:14

We'll talk about it when I get back. I never coming back. So, what I wanted to ask you guys is what did you think of their uh their blast graphics? Was that was that cool to anybody else?

SPEAKER_04 19:25

Oh, I thought that the the blast was cool. Um I thought the burning city was bad.

SPEAKER_02 19:31

That yeah, though that the uh fires were all like perfect columns, and the smoke all looked exactly the same.

SPEAKER_01 19:38

Like I know what a fire looks like.

SPEAKER_02 19:40

Yeah, yeah. You you I mean, from a distance you barely see the fire, all you see is the smoke. But yeah, I I liked the blast a lot. The what was it? Um the city, I forget the city that that they had to go through that was on fire. And what did you think about that half zombie when they like ran away and that thing was just crawling on the floor?

SPEAKER_04 20:03

Oh, creepy. I I like that because it it showed that they're still able to be alive.

SPEAKER_02 20:11

Yeah, they just it's it's not a simple death. Um that reminded me of the the zombie in the walking dead when they came when Rick met that that very first zombie out on the the lawn when he was riding out of the hospital in The Walking Dead, and gets to that first one, and it's like reaching for him and crawling for him, and it's obviously dead, and he doesn't know what the heck is going on.

SPEAKER_04 20:42

He's like, Oh, that's what's happening, you know.

SPEAKER_02 20:46

Exactly. Exactly.

SPEAKER_04 20:47

You gotta see to believe. So write that down, write that down. Dude, quote me on that.

SPEAKER_02 20:53

I don't know what you guys are talking about.

SPEAKER_01 20:55

Well, I that it's just like a a joke. It's a fun job joke. Write that down, write that down. I always remember uh old Eric. Minus one point. I know.

SPEAKER_04 21:04

I explaining a pun job joke to him was rough right now. Minus one point for being old.

SPEAKER_02 21:09

Jesus. That's that's ageist. Okay. I'm gonna get you cancelled.

SPEAKER_01 21:14

Yeah, my generation hates old people, so yeah, you do.

SPEAKER_02 21:17

I ain't even old. Fuckers.

SPEAKER_01 21:19

You're from like the twenties.

SPEAKER_02 21:21

Oh, nice.

SPEAKER_04 21:22

Maddie Maddie wanted me to remind you that you're old based on that story that you posted the other day. She said you'll know.

SPEAKER_02 21:30

What story?

SPEAKER_04 21:30

Oh, is she talking about me?

SPEAKER_02 21:32

I don't post stories. I have no idea what she's talking about, but like She's talking about she's talking about Aeris.

SPEAKER_01 21:38

She's calling me old because that that thing I told you where I posted that picture of me that I thought was funny, and then everybody got genuinely concerned.

SPEAKER_02 21:45

Yeah, I don't post stories.

SPEAKER_01 21:46

I should that was hilarious.

SPEAKER_04 21:49

Dude, I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm throwing, okay? I'm throwing.

SPEAKER_01 21:52

TJ almost ended his speedrun completely by himself.

SPEAKER_04 21:57

Listen, I did I did a portal way better last time.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

Yeah, this is rough. I got in the right. You just got rid of all your lava.

SPEAKER_04 22:04

No, it's fine. I got it.

SPEAKER_01 22:07

I don't think you got it. You're still missing one.

SPEAKER_04 22:09

I know, I know. I'm missing two actually.

SPEAKER_01 22:11

No, you're just missing one. You don't need the corner one.

SPEAKER_04 22:14

Well, yeah, no, I need this one.

SPEAKER_01 22:15

Oh, the bottom. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:18

That is better than I anticipated. Well, what else do you guys want to talk about in this episode?

SPEAKER_04 22:26

Listen, um, I'm contributing all to this conversation, and I feel like you guys aren't, you know.

SPEAKER_01 22:31

So are you actually like pranking me or what are you talking about? Okay.

SPEAKER_04 22:40

I think you you should really just try harder this episode, you know, like you've been slacking off. You know, like not watching movies. You didn't watch the movie until today.

SPEAKER_01 22:49

I literally I yeah, but I watched it before we recorded.

SPEAKER_04 22:51

Alright, we're in the nether. Um what have we not taught Oh, what do you guys think about the f freaking like their plan on like cleaning up after the bomb? Do you think that's the like a realistic type you know situation?

Military Characters And Missing Explanations

SPEAKER_02 23:08

No, because you're not going into the area that was bombed for decades.

SPEAKER_04 23:13

True, but they said it's not nuclear. It wasn't radiation. It was just a nuclear. It was yeah, it was like a super strong EMP.

SPEAKER_02 23:22

So that's bizarre, because I don't know. I don't know. We'll have to just we'll just we'll have to give it to them to make it make sense because EMPs don't have the bomb.

unknown 23:34

Right?

SPEAKER_01 23:34

That's it was an experimental experimental like US weapon, but it wasn't nuclear, that was the point. Like these aren't these aren't like radioactive monsters or anything like that. That's why I'm like, I don't know what the freak these things are.

SPEAKER_04 23:49

Yeah, I don't like you know, radiation zombies are a thing. And they've been shown before, but this they're not radiation. So it's they're just they got EMP.

SPEAKER_02 23:59

Wait, which one are you talking about from um radiation zombies?

SPEAKER_04 24:04

Um I mean you kind of you're putting me on the spot here, but I definitely it's definitely happened. Kind of fallout.

SPEAKER_02 24:11

The one that I think of when you say ghouls and they're when you say radiation, but it's I think of uh Return of the Living Dead.

SPEAKER_04 24:20

Ah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:21

That's the one where it was they incinerated it, the body, and the fumes go up in the air, and then the clouds come and and rain it down, and then it just starts turning all of the recently deceased back into zombies. So that one was infinite. You could never end it.

SPEAKER_01 24:37

I just looked over at a chat that Josh put in here on July 12th, 2025, that says Say Alex's first mode of transportation was a woolly mammoth.

SPEAKER_02 24:47

Jesus.

SPEAKER_01 24:48

And I feel like it's still relevant.

SPEAKER_02 24:50

Shut up.

SPEAKER_01 24:51

What was your woolly mammoth name?

SPEAKER_02 24:53

Steve.

SPEAKER_01 24:59

Um, the teeth.

SPEAKER_04 25:08

Hell yeah, you we didn't even get into like the teeth.

SPEAKER_01 25:10

I I've said it before on this podcast, I will say it again. I hate teeth stuff. Teeth stuff weirds me out. I don't like people clapping their teeth too hard. I don't like people talking about getting teeth cold, stuff like that. It weirds me out. This movie, oh my god. The the crunching of the teeth. Yeah, I spent so much that's why I honestly rate this movie so low, it's a personal thing. But it it hurt. It it physically pained me to watch parts of this movie.

SPEAKER_02 25:41

Well, let me ask you guys uh about the acting.

SPEAKER_01 25:44

I didn't mind it.

SPEAKER_02 25:45

I thought it was Do you think so? Some people think that uh Dizzy Ridley did the best and like widely praised her performance and said it was the strongest performance since the Star Wars. Now, the Star Wars fans aren't gonna really care about that. That's not gonna do much for them because nobody nobody who's a big diehard fan of Star Wars really cared about her performance that much. But I think that was more due to writing. But you thought the you thought the performance was good?

SPEAKER_04 26:14

I like it. That was okay. I wouldn't say it's I mean, yeah, I think it's better than her in Star Wars. She's kind of dead in Star Wars.

SPEAKER_01 26:23

I don't think that so the way that I think about it is like if there's ever a point where I'm actively thinking like, oh yeah, she's acting. I I never had that in in this movie. Like there was no point where her acting was mediocre enough to take me out of the movie.

SPEAKER_02 26:39

I get I yep, that was exactly the the phrase that I would have came. You never came out of the movie.

SPEAKER_01 26:44

I believed that she was who she was in this movie the whole time. Yep. So I think it was good acting. Yeah, I like to play it too.

SPEAKER_04 26:52

I do kind of do that with like I said that with uh Iron Lung. I was like, I didn't see him as Markiplier, you know, while I was watching it. So I think that's like somewhat decent.

SPEAKER_01 27:02

Yeah, that's a big uh to me, that's a big seller on like acting. Like I don't you don't need to be the greatest actor. I just shouldn't be thinking halfway through the movie, like, oh, you're acting.

Ambiguity, Allegory, And Grief

SPEAKER_02 27:14

Yeah, yeah, I get you. Now, what about uh there are people who think that this movie, specifically the zombies, are meant to serve as an allegory to grief and suffering and um as we've already we've already kind of said like unfinished business. Um what do they call that? Emotionally mature people, I think, call it closure. I don't know what that is. I've never dealt with that shit. Stupid. You never closed it? It's stupid. That's stupid stuff.

SPEAKER_01 27:47

You've never done a closing shift, it shows if you feel a certain way.

SPEAKER_02 27:51

Uh close if you have if you have feelings, push them down, move on.

SPEAKER_01 27:58

That is not the official advice of WYS, by the way. That is the official advice.

SPEAKER_04 28:04

Uh thing for WYS because it is not men's health month, so fuck you guys.

SPEAKER_02 28:09

Yeah, push it down. Carry on. Keep going.

SPEAKER_01 28:14

When is men's mental health month?

SPEAKER_02 28:16

Nobody cares about men.

SPEAKER_01 28:19

I think. That's convenient.

SPEAKER_02 28:20

So they say only women, children, and dogs know what it's like to be loved unconditionally. Nobody gives a fuck about men.

SPEAKER_00 28:27

Dogs love men unconditionally.

SPEAKER_02 28:29

That is so damn true, dude. Dogs are so amazing.

SPEAKER_01 28:33

I would say that. Some are very conditional.

SPEAKER_04 28:36

Yours condition.

SPEAKER_01 28:38

Okay, so here's the thing. Uh a girl recently was telling me, like, oh, when when I cry, my dog comes and snuggles me. And I'm like, that must be so nice. If I ever cry, my dog does not give a flying fuck if I'm crying. He does not care. Not that I cry very much.

SPEAKER_04 28:54

Should they do that weird side-eye thing?

SPEAKER_01 28:57

He literally, he seriously, like, I'll be like fucking depressed, like sad, like just sitting on my bed, and he'll literally in the corner just go, like, what the fuck are you sighing about? What do you think I fails you? You eight-month puppy.

SPEAKER_02 29:17

So here Jackson is getting in on your guys' bullshit. He says in the chat, dang, in all your years, even before the Dino Age, you'd never ever disclosed. Closed. Closed. Oh, you're dead. Oh, oh. Lost. Wait, what? Oh. Oh! And that's when the That's it. I was gonna say. And I guess that has to be the end of the episode.

SPEAKER_01 29:44

A 30-minute episode? Hey. Yeah, but we're not doing the episode. No, no.

SPEAKER_04 29:49

We're not doing the 30-minute episode. We're gonna continue talking.

SPEAKER_01 29:52

Oh, oh, it's come on.

SPEAKER_02 29:54

Alright, TJ, here. I got another one for you. So do you agree? I think we've already already said this, but I'm gonna say it openly. Do we all agree that this was a subversion of the zombie genre trope?

SPEAKER_01 30:09

Yeah.

unknown 30:10

Something.

SPEAKER_02 30:11

I think it has to we have to agree because we all agree that these are arguably, we could argue whether these are zombies or not.

SPEAKER_04 30:21

They're not infected.

SPEAKER_02 30:23

They're not infected.

SPEAKER_04 30:24

I would say they must be infected with something, though, because why would they come back?

SPEAKER_01 30:29

That's kind of like I see okay. This is actually something I do like about the movie. Uh Alex kind of was telling me he has a little bit of a problem with this, but I like that they don't answer most of the questions that were presented.

SPEAKER_02 30:42

You guys know me. I always complain about that. I'm very simple-minded.

SPEAKER_01 30:46

I kind of like that because it's like we're seeing from the perspective of Ava. She wouldn't know, and she doesn't know. And so I think it's fair that we as the audience don't necessarily know. We know about as much as she knows.

Subverting The Zombie Genre

SPEAKER_02 31:01

So, what I would say about it is I don't like when Hollywood leaves me to my own fucking devices. I am not a well-rounded individual, and my mind is a dark place. So when I go and watch a freaking movie, especially a zombie movie, I want it to be entertaining. I want you to fill in all the gaps. I don't want you to make me think of what's going on. Remember, I told you when we watched or when I watched Wreck that I ended up going, or I'm sorry, swap that around. When I watched Shutter Island, uh it left me so mentally scarred, I had to go and watch Wreck for comfort.

SPEAKER_01 31:45

Because it's just simple?

SPEAKER_02 31:46

Because it's just simple. It's just there's no thinking involved. It just is. Shutter Island had me all over the place. And then, of course, the truth of the matter was so much worse than what I thought it was.

SPEAKER_04 31:58

Which and then you have like this one is a movie that I recommended while I wasn't even on the podcast, and I'm kind of sad we didn't do it together. I weren't there for that. No, I recommended it.

SPEAKER_01 32:11

There's so many movies that I feel like you are a part of. I know, right?

SPEAKER_04 32:14

There's so many great movies that y'all did before me.

SPEAKER_01 32:19

Uh we did all the greats.

SPEAKER_02 32:20

TJ. TJ. Don't cry.

SPEAKER_01 32:24

You can make us watch them again. Don't cry. You ever cry like heard somebody cry like that? Uh yes. There's a three-year-old who lives in my house. Is that how is that how they cry?

SPEAKER_04 32:39

Dude, when I was a kid, I used to cry to the point where I threw up.

SPEAKER_02 32:43

Yep. Yeah. I knew I knew people just like that. Me as a kid.

SPEAKER_01 32:48

So I never cried.

SPEAKER_02 32:50

I only ever cried because my brothers would beat the shit out of me. But that's I think that's why I got so good at running.

SPEAKER_01 32:57

I came out of the womb and I was silent.

SPEAKER_02 33:00

No, I I wasn't.

SPEAKER_04 33:02

I had fluid in my lungs.

SPEAKER_02 33:03

I'll tell you this. I was dead. I would I would consider myself looking back at myself, I would consider myself a crybaby, but for the fact that I realized I didn't get as much attention as I thought I should. But now as an adult looking back, I'm like, damn, dude, I was freaking spoiled. Everybody loved me and thought that I wasn't getting attention because I was the youngest boy in my family. So they all thought I was being overlooked and they all gave me attention. So I was like, damn. So I never really had any reason to cry when I look back at it. I was always taken care of. There was always someone there for me. I was always in someone's arms.

SPEAKER_04 33:44

What a spoiled little brat we got here.

SPEAKER_02 33:47

No, I'm I'm the middle child now. I I became the middle child at seven years old because then my parents had my sister. And when your family has a baby girl after three boys, let me tell you what. You are forgotten.

SPEAKER_04 34:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:01

I've always been the oldest, so literally got forgotten at second at second child.

SPEAKER_04 34:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:09

Not by me.

SPEAKER_01 34:11

No, because it took you a while to get the second child.

SPEAKER_02 34:13

Long time. Very long time. I wasn't gonna do it. I always told every single person I was in a serious relationship, I don't want kids.

SPEAKER_04 34:23

Yeah, Alex had his sex. I remember giving you a look for every time you said that.

SPEAKER_02 34:29

It's just a testament to my virility.

SPEAKER_04 34:32

Come came out as duck.

SPEAKER_02 34:33

Sorry, ladies. You can't have any of this. I'm taken.

SPEAKER_04 34:37

He's got that biblical ring.

Acting Performances And Believability

SPEAKER_02 34:38

I'm fucking baby batter, bro.

SPEAKER_04 34:45

Oh man, that was funny. That was good. Put it in his hand, just goes wa. You are not pregnant.

SPEAKER_03 34:55

Just put the kids in water and it hydrates them. Like one of those fucking dinosaurs, dude.

SPEAKER_02 35:01

Back to the movie. Oh my god, and you had to point out the dinosaur, too.

SPEAKER_01 35:07

Not going back to the movie. Hang on. So I heard somebody say, somebody was saying, um, you know those little dinosaurs, like those little capsules you put in water and you become a dinosaur? Yep. Somebody said, Why don't they do that with girls' tampon? And then you pull one out and it's a it's a dinosaur after it's used. It'd be fun. And this girl stitched it on Instagram and she was like, Look, I'm not saying it's a bad idea. In fact, I think it might be a multi-billion dollar idea. However, when I am in that state, if I pull out a T-Rex and I want a triceratops, I'm gonna fucking lose that, bro.

SPEAKER_04 35:46

That went completely a different way than I thought it would have gone. The one you want. Stupid ass mystery bundle tampon, dude.

SPEAKER_02 36:00

You're gonna be you leave it to you leave it to this guy right here, and yes, I'm doing that shit. I am playing mystery games.

SPEAKER_04 36:09

New new idea here. So you know like fruit roll-ups, right?

unknown 36:14

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 36:15

You know how you can like put the tattoo on your tongue? Yes, those, but with pads. No.

SPEAKER_03 36:21

No!

SPEAKER_04 36:26

I don't know if that's where we will. If you pull your pad off, you get a sick coochie tattoo for a couple days. That's crazy. Just to mark that you've had your period recently. Yeah, no. And then it'll, you know, they'll all like through the whole pack, it'll keep layering tattoos, right? So then it'll make like a puzzle, you know?

SPEAKER_02 36:48

It'll make one big giant 3D image.

SPEAKER_01 36:51

Yeah, like you. You're gonna look like Dwayne the Rock Johnson down there.

SPEAKER_04 36:56

It's like one of those holographic like pictures, you like look from the side and it looks different. Or it's like the eyes that follow you, the the power that is in it somewhere.

SPEAKER_02 37:08

Alright, so uh Jackson comments on the chat uh in regards to what we just said. I wanted a goddamn T-Rex, not a fucking Tyrannosaurus Rex. Get it right, they are different.

SPEAKER_01 37:19

Yes, but they aren't.

SPEAKER_02 37:21

I think I think that argue with them that they're not different. I think that would be me. Yeah, we're we're just freaking a bunch of guys talking about this right now, and we are already having fights. That would be funny.

SPEAKER_04 37:36

I think it's a good idea. I think that's a big shoes might be kind of heat. I don't think that one's a good idea. I think it's a good idea.

SPEAKER_02 37:44

I think it's a good idea because how often are they looking all the way down there?

SPEAKER_04 37:48

Also, mood ring butt plug.

SPEAKER_02 37:50

Are they mirroring?

SPEAKER_01 37:52

What? Mood ring Are you sad? No? Bend over.

SPEAKER_02 37:59

That's a pretty damn good idea.

EMP Logic And Genre Lineage

SPEAKER_04 38:02

You pull it out, it's fucking blue. It says I'm quite inquisitive today. I'll check again in a couple of minutes.

SPEAKER_02 38:12

Black, what is black again? What is black?

SPEAKER_04 38:14

Fucking dead.

SPEAKER_02 38:15

It's like deviant.

SPEAKER_04 38:17

Black is colon cancer. That's you don't want to pull black.

SPEAKER_02 38:23

This this mood ring doubles.

SPEAKER_01 38:25

Yeah, I was gonna say, I think we should market this mood ring differently if that's what it is. This is also a pharmaceutical ring.

SPEAKER_04 38:32

It's got layers.

SPEAKER_02 38:34

Oh my god. It's got layers.

SPEAKER_04 38:36

It's got layers.

SPEAKER_01 38:38

Like an onion.