Will You Survive REMIX: The Official WYS Zombie pt 2

You know that moment in a zombie movie where the infected person “turns” and the story stops caring about what it feels like inside their head? We go the opposite direction and design a parasite zombie where the scariest phase happens before the body looks undead. Our monster doesn’t just bite. It hunts for the adrenal glands, manipulates stress hormones like adrenaline and cortisol, and pushes the host into a fight-or-flight spiral that can turn violent while they’re still aware enough to remember it.

From there we get uncomfortably practical: how would transmission work if the goal is pure spread? We debate eggs in the mouth, contamination from scratches, and a truly gross barf vector that makes close contact a nightmare. We also nerd out on “realistic zombie blood” and what it would look like as oxygen drops and circulation fails, plus how the parasite could shift stages from fast rage to slow husk reanimation.

Then we pull the thread that collapses civilization: incubation period. If symptoms take days or weeks, quarantine becomes a fantasy, travel keeps happening, and infection outruns every rule you try to enforce. We even put a rough R0 on it, and we explore a darker biology angle where immune function falls apart through lymph nodes and bone marrow, meaning “anything” can finish you off once the parasite has control.

Finally, we look for weaknesses that make survival possible without breaking the rules, from heat and dehydration to the lore-friendly curveball of pumpkin seeds and cucurbitacin. If you like zombie science, parasite horror, and worldbuilding with consequences, hit play. Subscribe, share this with a friend who loves outbreak stories, and leave a review telling us what weakness you’d add.

Transcript

Immunity Without Adrenal Glands

SPEAKER_02 0:22

WYS.

SPEAKER_04 0:23

Can anybody anybody uh the parasite? Can anybody be alive without an adrenal gland? No. No?

SPEAKER_06 0:29

I mean, I don't think they would eat it. I think they would like latch in like leeches.

SPEAKER_04 0:33

Well, that's what I'm wondering. Like, what if it's like those without an adrenal gland? The if they if you happen to not have it.

SPEAKER_05 0:40

You can't live without an adrenal gland without a lifelong hormone replacement. So it puts its own hormones.

SPEAKER_04 0:47

Those are the only people who are immune. Because as soon as the parasite goes for the adrenal gland, can't find it, and it's like, I'm out of here.

SPEAKER_06 0:54

So what if it makes its own like hormones when it's in there? I'm thinking I'm thinking it goes for adrenal gland, latches, and then pumps the adrenaline to certain parts of your brain to cause like fight or flight, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:08

See, because that could also cause part of the the problem in the in the human. Imagine having nothing but adrenaline pumping 24-7.

SPEAKER_04 1:15

Oh, you'd go mad. Right? You'd go and your body would be exhausted.

SPEAKER_06 1:19

Yeah, all the time. You're just fight or flight, and you're fucking you're murkin' people. You don't want to, but it's just what you gotta do, and then you crash, and then you get bone worms.

SPEAKER_04 1:29

So so it's like the rage virus essentially in the beginning.

SPEAKER_06 1:32

Essentially, also it causes you to go into a full rage. So and I think I think I like this.

SPEAKER_05 1:38

I like this because you're not technically a zombie when you do the worst of the worst. Yeah. But then when you crash out, you're thinking about everything you just did.

SPEAKER_04 1:47

Yeah, and then you and then it kills you, and then it reanimates your into like a husk.

SPEAKER_05 1:52

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 1:52

Where now it's so slow it can barely really move.

SPEAKER_05 1:55

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 1:56

But it is alive, it's it's undead, it's moving, but it's more it's super slow and like a husk.

SPEAKER_05 2:03

What movie, what movie was this? We did um I hated the ending because they left you wondering what the hell. It was like two years later, the guy, the zombie who was you know healed, uh, was running for office. The cure. Was it called the cure?

SPEAKER_06 2:18

The cure.

SPEAKER_04 2:18

Yes, yes, that was it. Where they were just walking through a field and we're like, where the fuck are they going?

SPEAKER_05 2:23

There's precedent.

SPEAKER_06 2:24

Yeah. There's precedent. Imagine imagine the fucking thing, like once once the initial shit takes over, imagine it just like runs up to you. Like, you know, they're still in their like human-ish form. They run up, they grab your face, and they just barf in your mouth.

SPEAKER_04 2:41

Oh, oh yeah, that could be a way of spreading it. There's like multiple waves of infection.

SPEAKER_06 2:46

And blood, I would assume. And blood, yeah, I'm sure I'm sure. But I feel like blood would be less, you know.

SPEAKER_04 2:52

So I would imagine, so I imagine like any zombie blood should be like dark black because it's it's not oxygenated. Well, unless unless this is making your lungs work.

SPEAKER_06 3:03

Um, I guess initially it would have to be that's what I'm saying, is it it makes your like it pumps like once you crash, then it takes over your body, it's pumping your heart, pumping your lungs, right? You're not there anymore. So it's keeping blood flowing, but as it's like slowing down, that's when they're slowing down. Blood's pooling in the legs.

SPEAKER_04 3:25

The the blood would start to become unoxygenated. It should become like probably it does it become black, it becomes like when it loses viscous.

SPEAKER_05 3:33

When it loses oxygenation, it would become rancid, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 3:36

Yeah, it becomes like tarry and black and thick, coagulated. Yeah, so that's like that's what realistic zombie blood would be like. It wouldn't be like bright red burst like gushing out.

SPEAKER_06 3:47

And as the pair infection goes on, the worms change to a different color. They go from white to black.

SPEAKER_05 3:53

So it was called the cured. Just a correction, the cured, not the cure.

SPEAKER_06 3:58

The cured the cure, I'm pretty sure, is a band.

SPEAKER_05 4:01

But it it's also a movie about um a kid with AIDS.

SPEAKER_04 4:07

That's the one we were talking about. That's the one. The zombie infection.

SPEAKER_06 4:10

I also thought about this while while listening to the episode. I was thinking of uh World War Z. Um, can it so the I'm thinking about I was thinking about the movie, not the I don't know if it's different in the book. But you know how it's like, oh, if you're infected with something that's already deadly, it doesn't want to infect you? What if you just like rubbed AIDS blood all over yourself? Would they just think you have AIDS? You don't have to give yourself AIDS.

SPEAKER_04 4:35

Yeah, would it work like The Walking Dead where they smell it and you go, nah. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_06 4:40

What if what if you just kept like a pouch of AIDS blood on you at all times and you just pop it?

SPEAKER_04 4:44

You're one of me. You gotta be so careful that you don't have a cut on you though when you're gonna actually get AIDS. Oh I got AIDS. Yeah, you're like, fuck. Well now I got it. Yeah, that would be crazy. So I like the idea that it's such a rare case. The only immune people would be those without an adrenal gland who are on a hormone supplement for that. Because I would like I would like to think that the parasite goes in, immediately seeks out the adrenal gland. That's its first place. And if it can't find it, it's like bad host, and it just gets out.

SPEAKER_06 5:20

And it evacuates from every orifice.

SPEAKER_04 5:23

Yeah. And evacu so it's like it's still fucking weird and painful, and people might think you're infected, but you're never actually infected because the parasite gets in there, can't find the adrenal gland, and isn't the one. And dips out.

SPEAKER_05 5:37

Huh.

SPEAKER_04 5:38

It looks for the adrenal gland first. If it can't find it, fuck off.

SPEAKER_05 5:41

All right. This is trademark finding it, guys. Don't steal that fucking wheel.

SPEAKER_04 5:45

Immediately, it immediately starts pumping the adrenaline and then makes its way up to the brainstem to sever off. So, like you're good. So like you're fully conscious, you're fully in control, and ad adrenaline just starts pumping. You're like, holy shit, it's like you just got hit with an epi pen.

SPEAKER_01 6:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 6:01

And you're like, holy fuck, like I I what is happening to me? And then it makes its way up to your brainstem and severs off the rest of the control. And then you no longer have control of your body, and it starts controlling you with all the adrenaline.

SPEAKER_05 6:13

Now that's what you're doing. Not trademarked, it's copyrighted.

Eggs In Mouth And Under Nails

SPEAKER_06 6:16

Copyrighted, it's copyrighted. Um, also in the last episode, we you talked about scratches versus bites versus such. I I agree. Did will we just make it so that the fucking eggs are just in the mouth and in under the nails? That's where they burrow. Yeah, I don't think under the nails.

SPEAKER_05 6:34

No, no, no. But remember, we had a reason for under the nails. It makes sense.

SPEAKER_04 6:39

With virus, it made sense. But I don't know if it makes sense with the floor. Yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_06 6:42

That's what I was thinking. I don't know if it makes sense other like other than if we put but it I feel like if we want a warm out place.

SPEAKER_05 6:49

Hear me out to the There's a reason for it. There's a reason for it. When you're getting uh you gotta you gotta take out uh take out rationality. When you're getting bit, where are your hands gonna go?

SPEAKER_04 7:00

To the to the phase?

SPEAKER_05 7:01

To their mouth.

SPEAKER_04 7:02

Yeah, to stop their fate, right?

SPEAKER_05 7:04

It's going to transmit onto you.

SPEAKER_06 7:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:07

Well, but at that case, you're already getting bit.

unknown 7:09

Right.

SPEAKER_05 7:10

Also, but you're gonna have it on your hands.

SPEAKER_06 7:12

Oh, well, this is like be so prevalent is because when you're dead, you're like people are like, oh, your nails still grow. It doesn't, your meat shrinks, so your nails look long. Right. So that's what it would be hella prevalent.

SPEAKER_04 7:26

So, okay, but hear me out. So you're saying that so this kind of feels like Last of Us, where it's like video game logic, yeah, real life logic, everybody's infected immediately because the spores are everywhere. So this would be like if you even touch an infected, you're infected.

SPEAKER_05 7:47

No, no, no, I'm not thinking that. I'm thinking you're thinking their mouth is like full of these things, right?

SPEAKER_04 7:52

So if they're coming at me, I'm like grabbing the forehead, pushing the chest, like trying to stay away from the mouth, obviously. The only reason I would ever put my hand near their mouth is if I'm already actively being but then I'm already infected by the return.

SPEAKER_05 8:08

So now under your fingernails, under your you, the infected, under your fingernails would be I see what you're saying.

Survival Problems With Contaminated Water

SPEAKER_04 8:17

Okay. So in the process of being infected, you would likely get it on your fingernails and what okay. And then also, like TJ said, we have the barf ability on ours. So that just makes it everywhere. It makes it even worse. Yeah. Okay. Man, so if you come in contact with apocalypse, you'd have to be so weird.

SPEAKER_06 8:38

Water and like fucking animals, too. You can't even hunt, you'd have to like forage for for like food.

SPEAKER_05 8:45

So we're gonna have to do another episode on survival survival equipment. We gotta talk about actual you know what? Here's what we gotta do.

SPEAKER_04 8:54

Life straws guaranteed to filter out our zombie parasite.

SPEAKER_05 8:58

We gotta go through the life straws, the chloration tablets, the uh would life straws filter out parasitic eggs?

SPEAKER_04 9:07

Yes, interesting.

SPEAKER_05 9:08

Anything over a certain size, we could go over that kind of stuff.

SPEAKER_04 9:11

Interesting.

SPEAKER_05 9:12

This would be helpful. So parasite.

Naming The Parasite And Infection Rate

SPEAKER_04 9:16

Yeah, I like this zombie. This is a scary kind of zombie, I think, because one infection is very high, and the whole goal of it is infection, unlike some where it's like, you know, just kills the host, and infection kind of seems like a byproduct of it. The whole intention of a parasite is to keep spreading. So in order for it to stay alive. So the spreading is scary. The the idea of like worms and eggs in the mouth, pretty nasty. I don't like that. Um yeah, the the idea that it it infects you and you have to kind of live out your first actions, which are gonna be the worst. But that's likely when you're gonna, you know, eat your family and whatnot. And that's what you have to live with as your last memories before it it does kill you after we said one to three days. That's gotta suck. To live with what you've done for three days before it it kills you. That's pretty horrifying. Uh, I think we made a awful zombie.

SPEAKER_06 10:15

And I think that the scientific name for our disease shall be osophagus terribra. And that's bone eater. I like it.

SPEAKER_05 10:27

Well, just uh to carry it out, the parasitic zombie that we've described would have a plausible R0 the infection rate of moderately 1.5 to 4. Billion? No, what that means is for every one person infected, they infect up to four other people.

SPEAKER_04 10:48

Oh, yeah, 1.5 to see that seems logical to me. That's a bad virus.

SPEAKER_05 10:54

That's bad.

SPEAKER_04 10:54

So uh a thought that I just had. Um, oh shit, I lost it. TJ, what were you you what were you just saying? Uh about the science. The name of yeah, oh, bone eat. Oh, bones. Don't bones make your white blood cells? Yes. And your red blood cells, they make your blood, right? Yeah, man. Bones make your blood? Yeah. What if like, hmm, does that play a factor into it? It starts to make infected blood.

SPEAKER_06 11:18

Oh. What if you're they burrow into your bones? Isn't it your lymph nodes that make the white blood cells? That might be right. But your bones make your red blood cells, right? Oh, ew. Ew. So they fucking stop.

SPEAKER_04 11:38

Ew. Oh, that wait. What if that's a way to gauge stage of infection? Yeah. That'd be kind of like people are like open your mouth. They're like, let me see your lymph nodes. And they're like, your lymph nodes are swelling. You're like, I just have a cough, I swear. They're like, I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_06 11:53

Yep. I'm just feeling a little sick.

SPEAKER_04 11:54

You're like, yeah, that's what they all say before they burst.

SPEAKER_06 11:59

Is that normal?

SPEAKER_04 12:01

And then you're dead. I am a worm. That dance has never been less popular.

SPEAKER_06 12:10

Our fucking parasite just makes you want to do the worm.

SPEAKER_04 12:14

Our virus or our parasite single-handedly killed the worm. If you do the worm, people kill you.

SPEAKER_06 12:21

They don't think you're infected, but they're like the new stage of our parasite, people just inchworm their way on the ground. Like into the city. Yeah, that's the husk. That's the husk.

SPEAKER_05 12:34

Okay, so bone marrow is the primary reason, uh, the primary cause of the creation of red and white blood cells. Okay. Lymph nodes do create white blood cells, but according to this, more specific, only certain types, which seems to be the types that have antibodies.

SPEAKER_04 12:53

So, like for like strip and stuff like that. Things that are gonna give you like sore throats and whatnot.

SPEAKER_05 12:57

This is like, okay, so you have you've had have have we all had chicken pox?

SPEAKER_04 13:02

No. I don't know if I have, but I have the enjoy shingles, motherfucker.

SPEAKER_05 13:06

So I've had I've had chicken pox, and I have the antibodies for it. So when I come in contact with somebody with chicken pox, my lymph nodes will create the antibodies that I already have to fight off that infection.

SPEAKER_02 13:22

But just general white blood cells to fight general infection.

SPEAKER_05 13:32

Right. There's no antibodies coming out.

SPEAKER_04 13:35

So is this like an AIDS thing where it's not AIDS that kills you, but it kills your immune system? Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 13:40

So like Oh God, you guys just made this so much worse.

Bone Marrow And Immune System Collapse

SPEAKER_04 13:44

It attacks your lymph nodes so that you basically what kills you, it it just depends. It could be anything. So it takes over your body, uh, pumps your adrenal gland, kills the connection to the rest of your nervous system, so you're stuck in your brain. Um, you can't really feel anything, but you see and hear and uh and acknowledge everything happening, and then it attacks your your immune system to make it so that, and then you go and infect everything, and so that pretty much anything after that can kill you. And that's what kills you, and then it reanimates your body as a hot.

SPEAKER_06 14:20

What's the incubation period? What's the what's how fast do you turn? I think it would be parasites. I feel like it would take a couple days at least.

SPEAKER_04 14:29

Well, so that becomes the question of like dormant versus active, like, and is there a difference? Is it like it could be anywhere from a day to a month, or is it like, oh, it's always three minutes, or is it like World War Z where it's like as it mutates, it gets faster?

SPEAKER_06 14:47

I think I think realistic terms it would take like a couple days, maybe a couple weeks, um, to like actually grow. But I feel like if we're going like unrealistic, it would be kind of sick if the worms just kind of burst into everything at hyper speed.

SPEAKER_04 15:06

So I think so. I would say that initial infection, like let's say you get bit, right?

SPEAKER_06 15:13

You and you're like, oh fuck, I got bit, you don't know.

SPEAKER_04 15:17

Yeah, those are mostly eggs. Yeah. So they still need time to hatch, and then they then they go bury bury into your bones, and that's when you start to feel what if it's like it's not I don't know how painful that would be if like a microscopic worm were to burrow through your bones. I can't I what if it's just like you're just really sore, right? Like I don't know what the science is of that, but let's say, like, for instance, you're just really sore and you're like, God, my bones kind of ache. And that's like the first symptom. And then once the worms are developed, that's when they hit your adrenal gland. Yeah. So it could be maybe a couple days of just like, God, I'm just so sore. Like everything hurts. And so, like, that's the painful part of it, and it gets progressively worse until it takes over your adrenal gland and then cuts your nervous system.

SPEAKER_06 16:05

Yeah, so I'm I'm thinking are you are you researching my bullshit?

Incubation Periods And How Fast You Turn

SPEAKER_05 16:10

Well, yeah, so they're they're not technically parasites, but like the brain-eating amoeba that you were talking about, uh Naglaria flow fowlery. Fowlery, I foul. That has a incubation period of one to nine days. Um many of the parasites that are considered really aggressive, causing fatalities or severe uh consequences, have long incubation periods of usually two to four, one to three, uh four to nine weeks, up to thirty days of one particular type. So they're not really fast.

SPEAKER_06 16:59

Okay. So I'm thinking it it's like an evolved type thing, and it just takes a couple days, maybe a day. You know?

SPEAKER_02 17:07

Because like parasites don't depending on like GiRDF.

SPEAKER_06 17:11

If it's just uh early infected person and it it just gets some like eggs in you, that's gonna take some time. But if there's like you know, the barf mechanic that we've got exactly worms directly into your body.

SPEAKER_04 17:25

Exactly.

SPEAKER_06 17:26

Worms, eggs, everything.

SPEAKER_04 17:28

Yeah, I would think that depending on how you're infected, like if it's if it's a bite, it's within a few days. If it's a scratch, it might take a week. Yeah, it might take away. If it's if it's the barf, it's gonna be pretty immediate.

SPEAKER_06 17:41

Yeah, it immediately swims up into your uh your brain.

SPEAKER_05 17:44

Ophial corticeps have an incubation period of 16 to 24 days.

SPEAKER_04 17:50

What's the incubation period of giardia in dogs? I think it's like up is it like a couple days to two weeks, I think. I think it's like 10 days, 10 to 14 days is the like you're clear after that. Or is it eight to ten?

SPEAKER_05 18:04

Five to sixteen days.

SPEAKER_04 18:05

Okay, I was just wrong every way.

SPEAKER_05 18:07

Showing symptoms around one to two week mark.

SPEAKER_04 18:11

So maybe that's the like so maybe we base it off of that, that like after a week, uh you you might not even know you were infected for a week, and then you're like, God, my bones kinda ache.

SPEAKER_05 18:21

Here's why that could be good in a horror novel, in a horror movie. Uh think of it like this you have a 30-day incubation period of this thing, meaning it's so hard to contain. It's inside of you, and you you kiss your your wife, your you may or may not be transferring eggs that way.

SPEAKER_04 18:43

Right. Quarantining this would be impossible.

SPEAKER_05 18:46

It would be impossible. You would never know.

SPEAKER_04 18:48

Yeah, it's way too long of an incubation period for quarantine. We had a tough time with COVID, and it was two weeks.

SPEAKER_05 18:53

With an R naught of four, and it's Yeah, there's no way everybody's in bed. And it's a 30-day incubation period. So, in the example that you guys were giving of that game that you were trying to get certain places, this would be the ideal people are traveling even to Iceland because there's no symptoms, and then all of a sudden they're there and bam.

Weaknesses Like Heat Freezing Pumpkin Seeds

SPEAKER_04 19:13

We gotta give it some weakness. So we only we gave it the weakness that no adrenal glands.

SPEAKER_06 19:18

If you don't have an adrenal gland, but that's so can you look up how a buff for them. Uh as they're burrowing through your bones, they kind of like mimic your bone, you know. So if you go to cut if you go to like cut off their arm or something, it's like really hard to do. It like that yeah armor plates your shit, you know, on the inside.

SPEAKER_04 19:40

Oh, that would suck. Someone goes to cut off their arm and it stops at the bone.

SPEAKER_06 19:43

I feel like so what what kills parasites in like real life?

SPEAKER_04 19:50

Um, it's normally it's medicine, it's anti uh anti parasitic. What what are they called? Um that's what they're calling. Are they antiparasitic? There's like like for dogs for GRD, it's panicker is the uh that that's like the brand name. Um like they're they have certain like dewormers and whatnot that are usually used for parasites. It is extremely rare for people to have no adrenal glands. What's the what's like the number? What's the percentage? Is it like the black population in Russia?

SPEAKER_05 20:23

No. Yeah. Because it is so rare, no population prevalence estimate exists. Well well. Um listening. So it is not common.

SPEAKER_06 20:32

I'm using AI to uh give me some answers here. Heat. Most parasites in their eggs are destroyed by heat cooking meat to a internal temperature of 71 degrees Celsius or 100 degrees 160 degrees Fahrenheit for at least a minute is the most effective way to kill them. Freezing for that parasites in fish, like those in the sushi, flash freezing, negative C, negative 20 C or negative four Fahrenheit for seven days, or negative thirty-five C for 15 hours.

SPEAKER_04 21:06

Negative four Fahrenheit is doable.

SPEAKER_05 21:09

You can so basically like northern Alaska No no, you would have to chill your internal temperature to that for seven days.

SPEAKER_04 21:19

Well, no, what I'm saying is that the parasite might die up there.

SPEAKER_05 21:23

Yeah, so that's outside of your body.

SPEAKER_04 21:26

Well, if it infects somebody and they're not able to infect, but that's such a hm. Yeah. I don't know, you because the transmission is so good with this that like it's because it's like a uh it could be a month incubation period, nobody knows who's infected, and so actually quarantining anybody is almost impossible to do. It's virtually impossible to do. And then and then Alex is right, it would have you would have to chill everybody's internal temperature to negative four, everybody would die. So pumpkin seed.

SPEAKER_06 22:00

Seeds contain coucour betasin, which can paralyze certain worms, making them easier to flush out of your system.

SPEAKER_04 22:10

What if that's the curious pumpkin? Just eat a pumpkin seed and you're fine. But it nobody knows because who the fuck would figure that out?

SPEAKER_06 22:18

I feel like in our little our book there's some dude. I think it's it's on some like bone temple type shit.

SPEAKER_02 22:29

Just loves pumpkin seeds.

SPEAKER_06 22:30

He's he's just he he he buries them in a pumpkin patch instead of a bone temple.

SPEAKER_04 22:38

Yeah, yeah. No, I'm here for that. I know exactly I hear what you're saying. Yeah. And then eventually and everybody's like, what's the fucking weird guy with the with the pumpkin patch?

SPEAKER_06 22:49

Why why is he wearing a pumpkin on his head?

SPEAKER_04 22:53

Yeah, and why is he always eating pumpkin seeds? Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 22:57

If I don't st if I don't keep eating these pumpkin seeds, they're gonna wake up.

SPEAKER_04 23:03

Like oh like um uh somebody somebody gets bit and and he just shoves like a handful of pumpkin seeds in their mouth. Chew these, chew 'em quick! Chew them, chew them. Closes his mouth, like forces them to chew it.

SPEAKER_06 23:17

Did you at least bake them? No, didn't have time.

SPEAKER_04 23:22

Raw pumpkin seeds. You know, I kinda like that. I kinda like that lore. Would that work? Our our parasite just so happens to be susceptible to pumpkin seeds.

SPEAKER_02 23:33

To uh, what is it?

SPEAKER_06 23:35

What did it say it was? To cucur Kucur Couser Patasin? Batasin? I don't know. How do you say this, Google?

SPEAKER_02 23:48

Is that a like a specific parasite? Well, it says certain parasites can uh get paralyzed by it. That's interesting. And then your body has the chance to flush them out. That could be really interesting. What do you think, Alex?

SPEAKER_05 24:03

Well, what I'm looking up are what could be some of the possible weaknesses to this thing.

SPEAKER_02 24:10

Are there just none?

SPEAKER_05 24:11

And no, there are quite a few, which is really interesting because because of what this thing is and it relies on the adrenal glands, right? Um, without the adrenal glands, the host can't regulate bread blood pressure, maintain blood sugar, can't balance electrolytes, and it would go into adrenal crisis. Now we know that the the parasite would control all of these things to keep itself active, right?

SPEAKER_06 24:37

But it would sever the brain. I looked up a video on how to say the word I'm talking about. Hold on.

SPEAKER_00 24:44

We are looking at how to say this word and more names from science and the world of band. So make sure to stay tuned to the channel, become part of that community, two different ways of pronouncing this word. Cookabitastan is probably the most common pronunciation. Cookabitastan. Although we don't say it all so well. Cookabitastin.

SPEAKER_06 25:09

Why is it a 37 minute video, dog? You can just say it.

Anxiety Phase Before Full Adrenaline Rage

SPEAKER_04 25:16

I like how he had to yeah, he had to give out the whole like bro 20 seconds like if you like this video, follow my YouTube channel for more than that.

SPEAKER_05 25:29

Um so heat, dehydration, low blood sugar.

SPEAKER_04 25:33

So I think the idea was that it's not that it stops pumping adrenaline, it's that it No, no, it takes over. It takes over and it's it's in infecting its own chemical into the adrenaline, and it's just pumping adrenaline, not enough to kill you, but enough that you're like teaching your body to into like certain spots.

SPEAKER_05 25:53

I thought I thought we agreed that it would eventually kill you. Oh, yeah. You wouldn't sleep, you wouldn't be acting normal.

SPEAKER_04 26:00

Well, I think uh so hang on, maybe at first when it infects the adrenal gland, it's so subtle. It's not doing large bursts, but it is infecting the the plant that's coming out.

SPEAKER_05 26:12

During the incubation period, it's not doing anything because it first has to gain control.

SPEAKER_04 26:16

Yeah. So what if it takes over the adrenal gland, right? But you don't even realize it's done that because it's not like it just takes over and it's like pump pump pump pump pump. Because the adrenal gland's always working, right? Yeah, it's it's not always pumping. Like you said, it controls a lot of other things too, right? So what if it's you just have like anxiety? You have like maybe, maybe it's infecting it, and and it's like maybe that's where like hallucinations and like anxiety start to play in, where you're like panic attacks and shit, and you're all the way. You start to question everything around you, and then when it's ready to fully commit, that's when it just it just pumps adrenaline, and that's when you go into your rage before you before you croak. Well, I think that's our zombie, guys. Yeah, this is a horrifying zombie. I want to see a movie about this.

SPEAKER_05 27:05

Let's make one.

SPEAKER_06 27:06

Uh yeah, once we get the we'll be like Mark A Platform. You gotta fund that just like you fund everything else.

SPEAKER_05 27:11

Uh train to Washington, then a bus, then wait for a day, then take another bus, then take another train.

SPEAKER_04 27:17

I thought you were I thought you were talking of that's our working title.

SPEAKER_06 27:21

Yeah. Train to Washington. Two trains and three buses to Washington.

SPEAKER_05 27:26

And then you wait a day.

Picking A Winner And Next Zombie Watches

SPEAKER_06 27:28

And then you wait a day. And then you take a small plane. That's the sequel. Plane to Spokane is the Okay. Well uh Okay, cool. Uh so guys, uh I I gotta choose a winner. I think we're all I think we're all winners this episode, truly. I think we've come up with some great ideas. We all three host next episode. No, we're not to that point yet. This is no. I think I think I I I I think I think I think I want to watch a zombie movie, so whoever whoever has the best idea for a zombie movie next time. Or it can be an idea for anything, I don't really care.

SPEAKER_04 28:25

But you know, yeah, the movie I the movie I have is called The Tunnel. It's an Australian movie. I don't know shit about it. I couldn't tell you anything about it.

SPEAKER_05 28:35

I don't even have an idea.

SPEAKER_04 28:37

Come on, Alex, I want you to win this fun. Uh Alex says let's rewatch Resident Evil.

SPEAKER_05 28:44

Well, I did say that last week.

SPEAKER_06 28:46

Because we didn't do Resident Evil with We can't we we we can't burn through all our remixes, we gotta spread them out. That's true. There's gotta be something here.

SPEAKER_05 28:58

There was something I've been watching I've been watching on um what the hell is that called?

SPEAKER_06 29:06

What if we what if we do a series?

SPEAKER_04 29:11

Oh, there's a new movie called Undertone that just came out. An audio movie as an audiophile kind of guy.

SPEAKER_06 29:22

There was a series I see earlier. I think I have it on my phone. Okay. Um it is called It's a mini series. Uh happiness. It is a Korean What's it on? Zombie thing.

SPEAKER_04 30:01

Oh wait, I've seen that. I've seen uh parts of that. It's on Netflix. Yeah. I know what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_06 30:11

Yeah, no, I uh I I randomly found earlier and then I also found another Korean uh movie called The Sadness.

SPEAKER_04 30:19

So I just randomly found two I looked up happiness and Google was like, happiness is an enduring state of well-being combining joy, contentment. I'm like, okay, not what I meant.

SPEAKER_06 30:31

Are you not feeling happy? Listen to this logic song. It's called 1-800. Yeah. I'm an alone, I'm in the mind time. I'm a link of my mind. Who can relay? Woo!

SPEAKER_04 30:50

You know that song? I've been a call banger song.

SPEAKER_06 30:53

I've been taking my time.

SPEAKER_04 30:56

People kind of meme it nowadays, but it is actually like a really good song. Uh Logic, he's a rapper. He said, uh uh, he said most of his raps when he writes them, it's just like he's just writing. You know, he doesn't really think too much about it. Like, you know, he's like thinking about it, obviously, but like he's just writing bars, and sometimes it's like that shit sounds good as fuck. But this one was like he was like, it took him a long time to write this verse because he wanted it to be really meaningful. And it's really cool how the song is broken out. Um, it's about um unaliving yourself. Um, and it starts the choruses, um uh I've been on the low, I've been taking my time, I feel like I'm out of my mind. If you like my life ain't mine, who can relate? Um, I just want to die. Uh I don't want to be alive. And then the second verse is from the hotline person's point of view. So now the point of view is from somebody speaking to somebody who called the the suicide hotline and is saying uh at the the choruses I want you to be alive, I want you to be alive, you don't gotta die today. And then the third verse and the third chorus is the person who called the hotline realizing you're right, I don't want to die, I don't want to die today, I want to be alive, and so it's like a it's a really cool progression lyrically, but it does kind of get memed on a little bit nowadays.

SPEAKER_06 32:29

I'm a no no no Who can relate? Who can relate? Woo! Who wants to kill themselves?

SPEAKER_03 32:39

Yeah, it it is wild when he sung that at the Grammys.

SPEAKER_06 32:43

Who can relate me? Woo!

SPEAKER_03 32:45

And it's like, oh no, I just want to die. Yeah, oh no. It was like that C uh Planet of the Gapes meme. Oh no, oh no. Love that guy.

SPEAKER_06 33:05

I love I love I love those movies.

SPEAKER_02 33:09

Happiness looks good. I did see that.

SPEAKER_06 33:11

Caesar's weaker.

SPEAKER_02 33:12

I haven't watched it.

SPEAKER_06 33:13

Coba Wicker. Love that. I forget that uh what's his name? James Franco was in the first one. Oh yeah. Planet of the Apes. It's a jump scare every time I watch it. I'm like, oh Franco. Where have you been? Anyways, uh, Alex, you win this episode. Uh what the fuck? Me and Eric have beef. Uh he uh you know what? I'm just out you're the winner because just because that's it. Me and Eric don't have beef. Me and Eric. Yeah, I was I was locked in with Eric this entire time. We were we were coming up with all the fucking ideas.

SPEAKER_02 33:58

Yeah, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_06 34:00

Yeah. I just feel like Alex should win. You know, I feel bad for him.

SPEAKER_04 34:06

All right, well, he he really wanted it to be a violent. He provided all the research. Well, he didn't fight it um too hard. But I like he provided all the research, and I will say I I do think the the counter arguments are are necessary in this stream.

SPEAKER_06 34:25

I am I am truly glad that we did come up with a completely different and more detailed zombie than the last one.

SPEAKER_04 34:34

Yeah. This one's scary.

SPEAKER_06 34:36

This one is very scary, especially the barf.

SPEAKER_04 34:40

That's gross.

SPEAKER_06 34:41

And the lymph nodes popping.

SPEAKER_04 34:43

Yeah, that's a that's a nice little detail there.

SPEAKER_06 34:45

And the kissing your wife and child and not realizing you're transmitting eggs into their body until 30 days later when you all go adrenaline freak.

SPEAKER_05 34:54

And Desta says, I'll donate money to see you guys bring this to life.

Funding The Movie Socials Practical Effects

SPEAKER_06 34:59

Please. TJ needs money. Three million?

SPEAKER_05 35:06

Three million, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 35:06

Yeah, three million. You can send it directly to me. I'll promise you.

SPEAKER_05 35:10

I mean, we could we could probably make a zombie verse for like 300,000.

SPEAKER_06 35:15

Yeah. Listen, I feel like that movies thrive when the budget is low. I feel like we could do this shit. You know what? We it wouldn't even take that much to make it convincing, like worms in the mouth. You know? We just get actual earthworms.

SPEAKER_05 35:35

Put actual earthworms in TJ's mouth and have them vomit them in Maddie's.

SPEAKER_04 35:39

No, we hire an actor and we're like, this is a job, man. This is Hollywood.

SPEAKER_05 35:44

An actor straight out of school.

SPEAKER_04 35:46

We're like, this is just Hollywood, dude. This is how it works.

SPEAKER_05 35:48

I want you to put it back on me.

SPEAKER_06 35:50

Uh before I forget, give us the socials, Alex.

SPEAKER_05 35:54

You can find us on all of our socials on TikTok, Instagram, Facebook.

SPEAKER_06 36:00

Really, we could.

SPEAKER_05 36:03

All of them at Will You Survive the Podcast, including YouTube. And you can also send us your emails. Send those to Will You Survive the Boys at Will You Survive The Podcast.com. That's T-H-E-B-O-Y-S at WillYou SurviveThePodcast.com. We'd love to hear your criticisms, critiques, any comments, anything you'd like to add, and we will shout you out on the podcast. Thank you once again.

SPEAKER_04 36:29

I have to be clear that what I was talking about was not about the ad read uh or the the socials read. I I was just making a funny.

SPEAKER_06 36:40

You're not funny.

SPEAKER_05 36:41

But we actually could. We actually could do all of the social reads in post. We really could.

SPEAKER_04 36:46

Yeah, I didn't mean I mean I meant like you asking the the new actor, okay, now barf on them. Like, can't we can't we do that in post?

SPEAKER_05 36:53

Can we do that in post? No.

SPEAKER_04 36:55

No. I I'm very much a uh uh practical practical effects, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 37:01

I I feel like it really would not be that hard to make convincing work. We could do it out of like silicone or something, just make them white, you know, and then have it just in the mouth dangling.

SPEAKER_05 37:14

I agree.

SPEAKER_04 37:16

What do they use to simulate throw up? It's like a mixture that you put in your mouth, right? And you like it.

SPEAKER_05 37:22

I'm pretty sure, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 37:23

No, but we would have to have it like projectile, you know, so we would have to make like a vomit cannon.

SPEAKER_02 37:30

Hmm. Like comes out, it's like a sidewalk.

SPEAKER_06 37:32

We would we would I think what what if because it's going like eating so like it starts in you know adrenal gland, which is in your head, right? It's in your brain. Um that's where it starts eating. It starts eating bones there first. So your jaw is so it unhinges, you know. So imagine just an unhinged jaw, right? So we could do a prosthetic of the jaw and then have like a hose run out.

SPEAKER_04 38:04

And then your adrenal glands are two small triangle-shaped glands on top of each kidney. Oh yeah, your pituitary gland is up in your head.

SPEAKER_06 38:12

Does the pituitary release a drop?

SPEAKER_05 38:14

Does it pituitary control them?

SPEAKER_04 38:16

Maybe. But the adrenal glands themselves are on the kidneys, are essential for life, regulating metabolism, blood pressure, immune uh system, and stress responses, comprised of an outer cortex and inner medulla. They provide vital hormones like cortisol, aldosterone, adrenaline, and sex hormones. Ugh, so you become less sexy with this parasite?

unknown 38:39

Fuck.

SPEAKER_05 38:40

It would never work on me. So what about the pituitary gland?

SPEAKER_04 38:44

I have too much sex hormones. It would never work on me. Let me see. Uh it does the pituitary gland. Pituitary pituitary gland affect the adrenal gland. Yes, the pituitary gland directly controls and affects the adrenal glands, primarily through the release of adrenal cortisotropic hormone, or known as ACTH. This connection is part of the Oh my god. Hypothalamic pituitary adrenal axis. Fuck science, dude. Where ACTH signals the adrenal cortex to produce essential hormones, including cortisol. So, yes.

SPEAKER_06 39:45

Uh I'm also reading that it also uh stimulates uterine contractions during labor. Uh imagine freaking kissing pregnant wife, right? Goes full zombie mode, shits out a baby, just it'll be the third time there's a zombie baby. Babies connected by worms.

SPEAKER_04 40:13

So now we have to get a woman actor to be pregnant so that we can have a zombie baby in a couple.

SPEAKER_06 40:19

We're keeping it going. Okay. Uh thank you all for listening to this episode of Will You Survive the Podcast. My name is TJ. That is Alex. That is Eric. This has been Will You Survive. And until next time.

SPEAKER_05 40:36

Remix!

SPEAKER_06 40:37

Will you survive remix? Stay alive.