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Stop Chasing Hashtags And Start Getting Clients — Maggie Langley on Focus, Distraction, and Building a Business That Fits Your Life

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Cut The Tie Podcast with Maggie Langley

What if success is not something you reach someday, but something you practice every day? In this episode of Cut The Tie, Thomas Helfrich sits down with Maggie Langley, founder and CEO of OfficeHound, to explore what it really means to build a business without burning out or losing yourself in the process.

From leaving a traditional career path to building a remote social media agency that serves clients around the world, Maggie shares how cutting ties with distraction, unrealistic expectations, and overcomplication allowed her to build a business that supports her life rather than consumes it. This conversation is especially relevant for solopreneurs and small business owners who feel overwhelmed by social media, technology, and the pressure to constantly “do more.”

About Maggie Langley

Maggie Langley is the CEO and founder of OfficeHound, a social media agency built to support business owners who want consistency and clarity without being consumed by online platforms. Originally from the UK, Maggie launched her business in London in 2009 before relocating to rural Iowa, proving that meaningful businesses can be built from anywhere.

With a background as an executive assistant, Maggie brings a systems-first mindset to social media, focusing on simplicity, affordability, and protecting business owners from distraction. She is also the creator of OfficeHound’s Social for Social Good initiative, which donates to overdose prevention efforts through client referrals.

In this episode, Thomas and Maggie discuss:

  • Why distraction is the real enemy of modern business owners
  • Cutting ties with careers that no longer fit your life
  • Why social media should support your business, not consume it
  • The danger of chasing vanity metrics instead of real relationships
  • Building a business that is sustainable, repeatable, and team-driven
  • How success is created through daily focus, not distant goals

Key Takeaways

  • Success is lived, not postponed
    Waiting for a future milestone creates dissatisfaction in the present.
  • Distraction quietly destroys momentum
    Focus is the most valuable asset a business owner has.
  • You do not need more content, just clearer messaging
    Repeating the right message beats chasing trends.
  • Vanity metrics do not build businesses
    Meetings and relationships matter more than views and likes.
  • Your business should fit your life, not the other way around
    Design systems that work without constant personal involvement.

Connect with Maggie Langley

💼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/officehounds/
🌐 Website: https://officehounds.com

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SPEAKER_00:

Welcome to the Cut the Tie Podcast. Hello, I am your host, Thomas Helprick, and I'm on a mission to help you cut the tie to whatever it is holding you back from success. And as you if you've been here before, and if you haven't been here before, you're about to hear it. You gotta define your own success and you gotta own it. Because once you do, you know what it is holding you back from it. Today I am joined by Maggie Langley. Maggie, how are you?

SPEAKER_03:

Very well. Thanks for having me on the podcast. I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00:

I'm excited to have you here. Uh clear, I tell people, you know, clearly, you know, Maggie does some content for us for instantly relevant. She's one of our esteemed partners in this.

SPEAKER_02:

Thank you.

SPEAKER_00:

Um and so I think it was really important to hear her story and her approach to maybe creating content. And uh because I thought it was interesting. You will too, audience. Maggie, start with who you are, where you are, and what it is you do.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. Um, my name's Maggie. I'm in uh I the CEO of Office Hound Social Media Agency. I am uh literally in the middle of nowhere, Iowa, in a one-horse town with a small population. I um started my business in um London back in 2009, or in the, you know, and then my British husband and I, we moved to rural Iowa. So um we, you know, that's the beauty of remote working is you can uh be hiding out in a relaxed, uh relaxed place and run into business.

SPEAKER_00:

What uh in your space, I always ask this question like, you know, there's a lot of, I mean, a lot of uh content plus technology, right? What is making you guys different? What why why should someone pick your company for the content creation?

SPEAKER_03:

Um well, I think that we've kind of come at um social content creation from a different place. Uh when I first started the business, it was back in 2009, and I started as a virtual assistant business, and I was teaching myself all sorts of things, website design, all these different services, and I was trying to be anything and everything to small business uh owners. And what became really clear was that um business owners were nervous about social media at that time and still are, they don't understand it. They they they always feel like they're on the back foot and they don't know, they can't keep up to date with the trends and what's happening and all of these things. And they, as we all know, as business owners, it's really hard to stay focused. And social media was designed to be distracting. And as someone who had worked previously as an executive assistant, I understood that distraction is the worst thing for any business owner and any business or any business person, anything you're trying to do, distraction is your enemy. And so, you know, I saw that there was a lot of purpose in that and in making it simple, making it affordable. What I also noticed as well is that uh a lot of times um people started out and they were applying like corporate level pricing. When social media services first started being sold and agents, people first started uh selling it as a service, they were looking at what corporate corporations were paying. And it's out of sync with what um business, like a lot of businesses need. So um we kind of went at it from that angle. Let's create a service. We listened to what people need and created the service. You know, initially we did some training and those kinds of things. And, you know, we created it kind of from the ground up from what people need versus looking at the market and looking at like what what a corporate client needs and trying to match that, price people out, make it so they can't stick with it. Um, and that that's I think that's one of our big differentiators.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Uh, and and you guys have you have a great approach. It's been very easy when we work with you, it's due. Uh, and I think that's important. There's a good customer service element, and I think you may, maybe don't realize you have as an advantage because you're in in the weeds with your own customer service. But uh, I like that.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah. I know, I know we're good by at that. Like it's by design, but everybody says that. Like, and I thought it was a little bit, everybody always says, oh, we're great customer service. But we have we have designed our process. So, like when you onboard with us, we keep, we try to make it nice and easy. Um, you know, we've we worked really hard at our system so that it feels pretty effortless to get started with us.

SPEAKER_00:

Great. How do you define success?

SPEAKER_03:

Um, I was thinking about this, and you know, the traditional um definition of success is um, you know, an accomplishment uh of an aim or a purpose. And so, but then you think, okay, well, we through throughout our lifetimes, we all accomplish tons of things, small, big, you know. So then it's like, what do you value? And for me, um you have like success isn't, you don't want to make success this thing out there in the future. Because that's uh that's your that is means that you're not enjoying your life now. Whereas if you zero in on like right now, like am I doing, am I behaving the way I feel good? Am I like doing the things I enjoy doing? Um, you know, am I proud of how I'm doing my life right now? That that is how you build up success. Like a successful life is is in the moments that kind of collect over over time. And if you're if you're so obsessed with, oh, I've got to reach this goal in the future, uh in your and you're and you're getting, you know, it's making you because you feel dissatisfied because of the distance between where you are and where you want to be, and you're always, you know, rushing toward the future and feeling dissatisfied. Well, then you're making people around you, your family, your friends, you're making every, you know, you're making people, you're not being your best self during that the time. And, you know, that's what your life is, is all those moments, how you spend your time. So you might as well enjoy the process.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, the analogy I often use with success, it's it is a sun you're walking towards, but you'll never get to. Um and the further you get off from that, the more shadows that are cast, the darker it gets.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

I think in your analogy, to extend it, it's you better enjoy what the sun provides and the growth and the and the things it sheds light on on your journey. Otherwise, you'll be you could just stare at it only and you'll be blinded in your game. So I guessing my analogy, I'm gonna use it.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah, that's a good, it's a good analogy.

SPEAKER_03:

I like that.

SPEAKER_00:

Maybe that should be worked into some of my content. Let's go with it.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely.

SPEAKER_00:

I've already had somebody on my team that took our content from ideas. Wait, we do, Maggie. That's right. My team, it's our team. It's a team. Uh all right. So in your own journey, right? Uh what's been the biggest kind of tie, so to speak, to achieve that success you just described for yourself?

SPEAKER_03:

Uh the biggest tie for me was um I had was working as a I I well, I cut the tie twice, two big times. The first time I was um, I had been an executive assistant and then I retrained as a teacher in England and in London, and I taught in inner city schools for a bit. And um it was a big process going through the training. It was a lot of work, you know, I I did it and I just realized it wasn't for me. And I think for young people, if you, you know, even if you've trained or if you've spent time doing something, you know, it it's a brave decision. But um, you know, if you if it's not right for you, you know, don't be afraid to leave and do something different. You know, don't just say, well, this is what I trained and I got to do it now, you know. And I was really glad that I left. Um, so I went back to being an executive assistant and um I got lucky because my HR department had given me a um subscription to a magazine for executive assistants. And that's when I first read about the idea of a virtual assistant. And I thought, oh my gosh, I could work from home. Um, I could support. I I in my head, I thought that I would be doing the same kind of work you do for like a corporation executive assistant. But um when I started my own business and you realize you're working with um smaller businesses and they don't know how to delegate, they don't have, you don't have the structure, you don't have the processes in place. It's a whole different uh world, you know, to to um you know, to try to support small businesses. And I so that was, but I I it that was my cutting the tie moment that I I as soon as I read that, I wanted to do it. And I they had um they were having some um restructuring at our place and they I had the they everyone thought I was gonna go for a job and I um instead of like I took the money and I was like, oh, I'm doing this now. So it was really exciting.

SPEAKER_00:

I love that. The um the the idea behind uh you know leaving what you intended you really ties to some deeper things because it's you know it's it's cutting the tie to someone's expectations of you, the judgment of friends and family and relatives and things like that. That's a hard one. And I I don't dismiss that one lightly. It's probably probably only overshadowed by you know getting out of a relationship, you know, marriage or something like that, that'd be a big one, or loss. That would be another one that you'd have to kind of accept. But that's a big one because your your schooling, your college, or trade or whatever you do, or you know, that's who I'm supposed to be, right? With all these years and time, you don't realize you have a choice. Yeah. And you and oftentimes it might be the wrong choice to go some other way.

unknown:

It's true.

SPEAKER_00:

Maybe they're bright, but you know, it's definitely uh you don't want to be left in your uh on your deathbed going, I wish I would have.

SPEAKER_02:

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, there's some things that you might want to leave off that. Like, I wish I would have done a lot more cocaine. Like, no, no, no. I never got cocaine. I can't really speak to that. But my point being is that's probably bad. Uh along the way up, there there's uh maybe actually elaborate on that. So I'm assuming you had to go through some of that to do this, but you know, you know, in your own business today, well, how are you continually helping yourself cut ties or holding you back?

SPEAKER_03:

Well, um, for me, I like to say that um I'm a recovering procrastinator. Like um, so for me, like that's been a, you know, and even when I first started working as an executive assistant, I mean, my mom, when I that was the first job I had out of college when I moved to London, like or I'm I'm um moved straight to London out of college. And my mom was laughing because I'm I'm I'm quite I was naturally kind of disorganized, but that's I had to teach myself that and got really good at it. Um, but it's easier to organize other people than yourself. So that that is a that is a for me, that's a continual ongoing process of cutting the tie of distraction. You know, I think it's why I care so much about doing social media because I mean, literally there are people that designed it to make it distracting. So that is, I mean, that is the purpose of social media is to distract you from what you're supposed to be doing so that you're scrolling on your phone so they can sell ads. So, you know, in that sense, like I I kind of care about it quite a lot to try to protect people from that you shouldn't be doing it yourself. You should be giving it to someone else to to do. So um, yeah, so I guess so that's that that that's my continual cutting the tie is trying to get continually trying to get better at staying focus. It's back to the success thing. For me, it's you know, did I have a day where I stayed focused? You know, I didn't get out of, I didn't get behind in something. And then like my husband and I work from home together, you know, I didn't get you know stressed and stroppy with him because he um, you know, because I I I'd made it, I'd gotten a little out behind on my to-do list or something, you know. So I think it's just a continual process, that one.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, and and you know, uh distraction is it's everywhere. It's funny because so my company instantly relevant, right? The the whole idea is, you know, I tell people I'm only on social media about an hour a week. So I send my own number to a lot of people because if you want you to hold me, it's text. Uh but that they're like, How do you do that? Like, like, that's exactly what we do because we know that you don't want to be there. That's what we focus on Gen Xers and boomers because they don't want to be on social media. Every one of them with a certain level of money would be like, I would not even probably have a phone.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

If I like there's some are like, well, I have kids, so the phone and texting's gonna always be there. I like to follow some stuff, but I don't think I ever really want to post everything. Yeah, no. You ask somebody that like put 10 million in the bank account, it's gonna give you about$500,000 a year. How do you feel about social media now? They're like, Yeah, I'd get rid of it. I don't need a job. Anyway, sorry. I'll it is my podcast. I do that sometimes. Uh keep going with me a little bit on this. Uh okay. The uh maybe the the you you've hinted out a few things, but what would be the single uh advice you'd give to a listener, uh and a specific listener being let's say a solopreneur just starting out trying to figure out the social media content game?

SPEAKER_03:

Um I I think that the biggest mistake that you can make would be to um spend all your time researching. Like uh, you know, I think that that's the trap that um that that people fall into when they start trying to do it themselves is they think, okay, well, I've got it, I've got to research and see what, you know, there's nothing wrong with look at what your competitors are doing. You can get some inspiration, you can get some ideas, but uh a lot of times what worked for what seems to have worked for somebody else might not work for you because you're small. And there's also a lot of kind of um, it's a it's again, it's that that same problem of uh we were talking about before about like sometimes like sometimes the advice that you might read is actually for bigger accounts than yours. And so you're gonna always feel disappointed because um, you know, you're when you start out small, you're not gonna like it, it percentage-wise, like if you get a little bit better, you know, you're gonna read about people saying, Oh, you're gonna get better reach if you do this tactic or that tactic. But when you don't have very many followers, I mean, the percent, like if you have like a million followers, the percentage difference matters to that person if they got a little slightly better, you know, percentage increase. But when you're when you don't have really any connections and you don't have any business relationships, those those tactics don't matter for you. So instead of spending your time reading these things, all these tactics and things and trying to emulate bigger accounts, start building relationships. Start like talking to people and getting to know people and try to think about how you can make people care about you and your business. And then, you know, you you got a better chance. But I I feel like that's the I think that's the most confusing thing for people when they're starting out. And and a lot of those people have giant ad budgets to get the ball rolling, you know, sometimes, or they or they they did things that you aren't able to do, maybe to get started. And or or they started at a time when Instagram was new and it was like all you had to do was put a hashtag on something, and some people would um, you know, would there there were different, it's like with TikTok when it first started, you know, you could put up a video and you'd get tons of views because they were forcing it to be shown because they were trying to get traction. So when in there's all sorts of things that you're if you're comparing yourself to someone else, you don't know what got them there. So just just you know, try, spend some time, experiment and don't sweat it and don't let it take up too much of your time.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, no question. Uh you know, and you and I are very aligned on this, where you know most solopreneurs can only handle a handful of clients. Uh, and the and if if you think, well, I need 20 to make it work, then you're just probably not charging enough. Like you just need to you need less and more. And so what I found with a lot of them, and to kind of continue that idea, is uh you don't need a lot of content, you just need to center around a single problem that you solve and go repeat. And you know, and you when you and I worked together, it's why because you you have the same philosophy, so you don't need a lot of content, you just it's got to be on point and don't come off the point. Yeah, one of the guys I follow all the time on on LinkedIn, his name is Dan Rosenblatt, I think, or I can't he does a it's 72 ministries, and I'm talking about it because he sings a lot of things about faith and things like and he did a post the other day about hey, listen, my last 10 posts did 30,000 views each, and he showed it and I email him like, don't ever do that. I go, you are on faith. I mean how faith that that makes people better in this. I go, that's why people follow you. I know you're trying to be helpful, but it it makes me go, what is he selling?

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Because whenever you see people showing their metrics of how good stuff is, they are selling you the system to make it happen. You can trick all that shit.

SPEAKER_02:

Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

We personally don't ever focus on vanity metrics.

SPEAKER_02:

Yep.

SPEAKER_00:

So don't do it. Just focus on the meetings and are you writing the right things to the right people? Because at some point they will find you, the right ones will find you. Um, we used to do vanity metrics, we've seen this too, where we get a half a million views and zero meetings. I'll get eight likes now and four meetings.

SPEAKER_03:

So yeah, yeah. Which one do you want? Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00:

And and again, that might not be your story, but anyway, so your story. I'll get off my platform.

SPEAKER_03:

Well, no, but it's but it's in a it, I think it is an important piece with social media is that um people do follow the wrong thing. I mean, you know, you you don't want to follow a trend that is designed for people who aren't your customers. So, you know, maybe you see that there's some video trend happening on, you know, Instagram. And so you, you know, you go out of your comfort zone and you try to do that. Even if you get views, it's if they're not the right people, there was no there it wasn't worth anything.

SPEAKER_00:

So then views came on your channel for something that didn't work, and then now you're not gonna care about the stuff that should work for those who would have viewed it.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And so it makes your channel even worse because that group really doesn't care about what you're doing. And now you're further from the mark.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And more likely to go repeat the stuff that doesn't actually have value.

SPEAKER_03:

Absolutely. Absolutely. But it's confusing because because we're kind of, you know, we're all thinking, oh, you know, bigger's better. I need to get my numbers up and all of these things. And it's like, you know, no, you like you said, you you need to have like you need to have content that when somebody is interested in you, like it's consistent and it's because, you know, and that's the other big mistake I see people make is they they worry that their content starts to feel a little boring to them. Like, you know, we've had people say, oh, we need to have it more, we need to freshen it up a bit. But it's like the truth is that you only sell a certain number of services or products. Those are your services and products. And so that means that you have to kind of you're marketing those services and products. So that's, you know, you're kind of saying the same thing in different ways, like, oh, like that's part of what that's part of what marketing is, is to make sure people understand what you do and who you are and what matters to you as a business.

SPEAKER_00:

You have to repeat it. It has to be, it can't be just the same thing over and over. Um different aspects of your business. So agreed with that. Um, in your in your own timeline, if you could go back to any point in it, when would you do that? What would you do differently?

SPEAKER_03:

If I could go back, I would have, I spent, I spent too long when I started, as I mentioned, when I started as a virtual assistant, I spent too long. I tried, I learned so many digital marketing skills. Like, you know, oh, I can do a lead lead page or lead um page for you. I can do, you know, I learned all these automation tools. I did all of these things and um and I tried to sell so many services. And um, I wish I'd ref I I just didn't have the sophistication to understand that, well, what kind of business do I want to run? I want to run a kind of business where I can make myself replaceable, not not like where everything relies on me. So that that means that like I can go on vacation and I have a team that can do things for me. And I'm not, you know, always in the center of that. And I wish I'd learned that. And the other thing I wish I'd uh done is um I spent so much time researching different. Different softwares and you know, things like you know, think CRMs and things to run your business because partially because I enjoy it, I find that fun, but also like I changed tools too many times earlier on because I kept thinking that there was gonna be like this perfect software. There is no perfect software. Like that, you know, there's you know, there's you have to compromise on some things. And I I wasted a lot of time doing that early in my business.

SPEAKER_00:

I think I've bought Go High Level and canceled it like six times. Um we finally have it. Like, no joke. I'm like, like, have you been here before? I'm like, stop. I know, I get it. I I never put the effort into it. Uh yeah, you you you whenever you're about to buy some tech, don't. That's right. Like make like to be fair, like you know, like it we recently moved to like a digital lead form, right? Uh and called score out. It took me a long time to get there. It took me a long time to realize I think that's actually what my what my top of funnel will be because I think it's much easier. It could be very, very effective in recommending and doing stuff because it was dynamic. I'm like, all right, I think I can leverage that tool, and I can also leverage it for other lead magnets. And and that took me a year, probably to get to the point to say actually, and it might be too long, but um back up five years ago, I would have bought it day one.

SPEAKER_03:

So yes, yes, I hear you.

SPEAKER_00:

Um sorry, tripped on something below my feet there for those listening. What's he talking about? I almost fell over out of my chair, to be fair.

SPEAKER_01:

Um at least better better you than me.

SPEAKER_00:

Like it almost happened. It would have been fun. Uh what is uh the like, you know, for for the let's go to that kind of solopreneur or the small business owner, what's the one book they need to read?

SPEAKER_03:

Um okay, I've got two books for for someone that's like newer to business, um, start with a gap in the gain um by uh Dr. Benjamin Hardy and um Dan Sullivan. Um and and then if you're when you're when you're when you got that concept, then read The Big Leap by Gay Hendricks.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. That's all again Sullivan. Uh 10x is easier than 2x. Um actually in his mastermind program, and then they said it is excellent. So and and the book is very good as well. If you know what don't know what that one is, it's basically focus everything on one thing and do your best to 10x it first. Don't try to do three things because you're best, you'll 2x it and you'll be working in your business forever. Um true. I like that. Um, what's uh what's kind of the worst business advice you've ever received?

SPEAKER_03:

Um, the worst business advice that I've ever received. Um I thought it was that you're gonna ask me the best business advice I've ever received.

SPEAKER_00:

Throw an angle in there occasionally.

SPEAKER_03:

So the worst business advice. Oh, um, it's not quite the worst business advice, but I I had something kind of funny happen to me. I had a uh mastermind group that I was in early in my business, and I was um I was a vert I was uh trying to like focus on a target market for my virtual assistant business. And a guy in my group, he they were really the group, the target market I was trying to sell to is really hard and it wasn't working. And he took that idea and tried to do it. And so I guess, I guess that um, you know, and I saw him doing it and I thought, well, good luck to you because that's kind of why I'm here, because it's not working. So I it wasn't it wasn't quite an answer to your question, but um, you know, sometimes uh I th I thought it was kind of funny.

SPEAKER_00:

Like that guy probably took like he didn't you didn't get it, get it or thought he could do it better. You should go check on it today and be like, Well, he actually made it work.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah, he didn't make it work.

SPEAKER_00:

I find that funnier, that's the reason you were there, and that's uh you know yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

I guess I must have sounded convincing, I suppose. I don't know. I guess that's good good marketing, huh?

SPEAKER_00:

So so from from my perspective, I'm uh more of an abundance mindset, you know. Yeah, some aspects what you do is competitive to what we do. But at the same time, I'd rather hire partner, bring in people who really do it well, yeah, and and then and then leverage additional resources and people to do it. Because uh, one, it from a from a delivery standpoint, our value should exceed significantly what we bring you on to do. And if I'm only doing what you're doing, then great. Because we have other people who do LinkedIn stuff and like that, and they do a very focused thing. We're like, all right, that's you know, one box of what we do, that's fine. Um, but I think when you're out there, don't be afraid of competition. Uh embrace it because you know, things change, people come to you, you need peers, you need to, you know, you need to be tight in that group. And from from just a pure social marketing, uh, if you're commenting on their posts and stuff, you're you're you're stealing their ad budget. Put that out there. Good tactic. Um let me ask you if there was something though I should have asked today and I didn't.

SPEAKER_03:

Uh yes. Um, I like you should have asked me about our social for social good program. And I would like to um so and and how I would answer that would be um also I my my husband and I last last year um we did uh started podcast called the Addiction Recovery Place Podcast, which is for it's specific, it's a bit niche, it's specifically for addiction professionals, not for people that have addictions. So um, because he that was what his work was before he joined me in the business. Um and and uh after hearing about all this turmoil that's happening in the country with fentanyl um and things, we um we decided that we would um give back and we're donating um when we get referrals or we we make a donation of$50 a month to um uh a nonprofit that um helps people like with the the medication that uh reverses overdose. So if you if you hear, if you're watching this and you need help with your social media, mention, you know, just say the saw me on uh cut the tie and that you're you know, mention the social for social good and we'll make a donation. Um so and also if you make a referral for us, if you if you know if somebody's looking for someone that does social media, you make a referral, we'll also do that. And it's kind of a win-win because you know that you're literally helping save lives. I mean, I think it's 50 bucks can save two. I mean, it's two doses, so it can save two lives. And we do that, you know, over the course of a year, you know, that could be potentially 24 lives saved. So it's amazing.

SPEAKER_00:

It's I mean, if you don't believe it's a problem, go to San Francisco and go to uh Union Square and just walk around a little bit. You'll you'll see exactly what the problem is right there. Yeah, politics aside, people are hurting, and you know, and a lot of times it's obviously not their fault, but they can't do much about it.

SPEAKER_03:

That's right.

SPEAKER_00:

Um you get the point you're shitting in the street, it's over for you. I'm gonna tell you, it's gonna be hard to get out of that.

SPEAKER_03:

It's over. Yeah, yeah. Let's talk about your brand. Yeah, but you know, but but that's the thing though. These, you know, that's that's actually why we wanted to kind of champion the work of you know, of addiction professionals, because they they really do, you know, there's there's some amazing stories uh about people turning their lives around, you know, from um it's a it's amazing. People are amazing.

SPEAKER_00:

I love it. Thank you so much by the way. Uh who how should they get a hold of you and who do you want to get a hold of you?

SPEAKER_03:

Um, yes. So um you can get a hold of me at um I have an open profile on LinkedIn, so you can anyone can message me um on LinkedIn. It's just Maggie Langley. You look me up, it's um for Office Hounds. Um, you can also just get a hold of me on officehounds.com. Uh, pretty we're pretty easy to find. And um, yeah, anyone who's uh interested in getting some help with their social media marketing.

SPEAKER_00:

I love it. Thank you so much for taking a note there. Put that in the show notes. Uh, thank you for joining me today, Maggie.

SPEAKER_03:

All right. It's been really fun. Thank you for having me on.

SPEAKER_00:

It's my pleasure. And anybody who made it to this point in the show, thank you for listening and viewing and watching. And if you've been here before, you know uh, you know what you gotta do. You gotta get out there, find your success, own it, cut the tie to whatever's holding you back. And if this is your first time here, I do hope you come back and get out there, go cut a tie to something holding it back and be proud of it. Thanks for listening.