#67: Autonomy, Autopoiesis & the Enactive Approach with philosopher Ezequiel Di Paolo
Love & Philosophy
After Andrea’s introduction, Mirko Prokop talks to Ezequiel Di Paolo about the enactive approach in cognitive science and its roots in Francisco Varela’s work on biological autonomy. They explore the ideas of autonomy and autopoiesis, the deeper meaning of enaction, how biological, sensorimotor and social dimensions of embodiment drive the ongoing, creative process that is human becoming, and what this implies about the meaning of love, authenticity, and the importance of staying true to your questions.
Ezequiel is a Research Professor at Ikerbasque, the Basque Science Foundation and member of the IAS-Research Centre for Life, Mind and Society at the University of the Basque Country as well as the Centre for Computational Neuroscience and Robotics at the University of Sussex. He is known for key developments of the enactive approach and has published numerous articles and books on this and related topics in cognitive science and philosophy. Most recently, together with Evan Thompson he has reedited the new, annotated edition of Francisco Varela’s book Principles of Biological Autonomy, first published in 1979.
00:00 Intro by Andrea
05:02 Varela’s Principles of Biological Autonomy: From First Encounter to New Edition
11:25 Autopoiesis and Autonomy
19:20 Enaction: Bringing Forth a World
26:38 The Co-Construction of Organism and Environment
33:46 Dimensions of Embodiment
38:35 Enactive Becoming
43:57 The Primordial Tension of Participatory Sense-Making
52:32 What’s Love Got to Do With It?
1:00:36 Authentic Becoming
1:04:40 Staying True to Your Questions
Links to mentioned work by Varela & Co:
Principles of Biological Autonomy (Varela, F., E. Di Paolo and E. Thompson (eds.), 1979/2025, MIT Press)
The Embodied Mind (Thompson, E. Varela, F., and Rosch, E. 1991/2018, MIT Press)
Organism: A Meshwork of Selfless Selves (Varela, F., 1991)
Patterns of Life: Intertwining Identity and Cognition (Varela, F., 1997)
Life after Kant: Natural Purposes and the autopoietic foundations of biological individuality (Weber, A. and Varela, F., 2002)
Autopoiesis, Adaptivity, Teleology, Agency (Di Paolo, E., 2005)
Participatory sense-making: An enactive approach to social cognition (De Jaegher, H., and Di Paolo, E., 2007)
Sensorimotor Life (Di Paolo, E., Buhrmann, T., Barandiaran, X., 2017, OUP)
Linguistic Bodies (Di Paolo, E., De Jaegher, H., and Cuffari, E., 2018, MIT Press)
Enactive Becoming (Di Paolo, E., 2021)
F/acts: Ways of Enactive Worldmaking (Di Paolo, E., 2023)
Mirko Prokop is currently a PhD stud
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#66 Harmonizing the Dao with analytic philosopher Eric Schwitzgebel
Love & Philosophy
This show is about harmonizing the Dao and embracing the world's weirdness at once. Our guest is Eric Schwitzgebel, an analytic philosopher and professor at the University of California Riverside. As they unfold the Dao and the world’s weirdness, Andrea and Eric explore everything from robot consciousness, the love darts of snails, triads, axiology, and the philosophy of opening. Eric shares his journey into classical Chinese philosophy, how we understands harmonizing with the Dao, some of his writings about consciousness, and the importance of appreciating the world's inherent weirdness. This conversation offers a delightful blend of profound ideas and joyous reflections, encouraging us to see weird as a way into new perspectives and perhaps even into love.
00:00 Introduction to Love and Philosophy
00:20 Meet Eric Schwitzgebel: Philosopher and Author
01:37 Exploring the Concept of Harmonizing the Dao
01:52 Journey into Classical Chinese Philosophy
03:59 The Tension Between Analytic and Chinese Philosophy
06:22 Understanding the Dao and Harmony
11:16 The Weird and Wonderful World of Zhuangzi
17:40 The Value of Diversity and Conflict
33:14 The Consciousness of Garden Snails
41:57 Exploring Relationality and Consciousness
43:50 The Consciousness of Plants and Robots
46:52 Philosophical Perspectives on Consciousness
55:38 The Philosophy of Opening vs. Closing
01:10:06 Ethics and Moral Behavior of Ethicists
01:17:43 Love, Marriage, and Harmonizing with the Dao
01:22:16 Final Thoughts and Farewell
The Book we discuss:
Writings we discuss:
Imagining Yourself in Another’s Shoes versus Extending Your Concern: Empirical & Ethical Differences
A Robot Lover's Sociological Argument for Robot Consciousness
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#65 Play & Meaningful Uncertainty: Active Inference and Intellectual Sweet Spots with Julian Kiverstein of Amsterdam UMC
Love & Philosophy
Julian Kiverstein is a senior professor at Amsterdam Medical. He's co-authored various papers about the importance of play as it relates to predictive processing, active learning, intimacy and embodied cognition.
Sometimes we get stuck in attractor states. Play is a form of disruption that may be able to help us get unstuck. Play seems to be far from algorithmic.
This conversation explores how playfulness is crucial for meaning and flourishing, and how building safe spaces for play (such as museums and parks) are crucial for healthy societies.
Active inference and predictive processing are discussed as tools that might help us better model and understand this ‘sweet spot’ towards finding ways to create spaces where we can explore uncertainty and risk without danger.
Drawing from his extensive work in phenomenology, embodied cognition, and predictive processing, Julian offers fresh perspectives on how play connects to mental health and wellbeing. Some key ideas from this episode:
• Play requires safety yet involves taking risks—a paradoxical relationship that enables personal growth
• Adults often lose the curious openness of childhood as we become fixated on seriousness and habitual patterns
• Love shares qualities with play as both involve transcendence beyond the self and openness to fresh experiences
• Active inference and predictive processing provide frameworks for understanding both mental illness and flourishing
• Breaking out of "attractor states" or fixed patterns requires disruption that playful activities can provide
• Creating safe spaces for play becomes essential for development, creativity, and meaning-making
00:00 The Role of Play in Well-being
01:50 Introduction to Love and Philosophy
02:45 Exploring Active Inference and Predictive Processing
05:24 The Importance of Play in Development
09:58 Julian's Journey into Mind Studies
12:11 Understanding Mental Illness through Predictive Processing
21:57 The Concept of Play and Its Cognitive Benefits
30:27 Intrinsic Motivation and the Value of Play
44:12 Play as a Disruptive Force in Mental Health
45:09 Understanding Mental Illness and Uncertainty
46:13 The Role of Play in Mental Health
47:38 Creating Safe Spaces for Emotional Regulation
49:05 Exploration vs. Exploitation in Learning
52:03 The Importance of Play in Adulthood
53:35 Art, Literature, and Emotional Engagement
56:55 The Need for Play in Academia
01:20:50 Balancing Exploration and Familiarity
01:23:37 Final Thoughts on Play and Well-being
Intimate Places: Playgrounds for self-exploration
Playfulness and the meaningful life with Mark Miller
More of Julian's papers
Stuart Brown and the Institute of Play
JK and Darius Active Inference Institute
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#64: Complimentary Science & the Lure of Convenience with philosopher of technology Sabina Leonelli and Fotis Tsiroukis
Love & Philosophy
Sabina Leonelli (hosted live here by Fotis Tsiroukis) is a philosopher of science and technology renowned for pioneering work in the philosophy of data & open science. As a professor at the Technical University ofMunich (TUM), she directs the Ethical Data Initiative and leads the PHIL_OS project, which develops empirically grounded frameworks for open science in under-resourced research environments. Her interdisciplinary approach bridges high theory with participatory, on-the-ground research—exemplified by her ethnographic collaborations with biologists and data scientists.
In this episode, host Fotis engages in a deep and wide-ranging conversation with Sabina Leonelli. They explore the intersections between philosophy, science, and society, discussing topics like complementary science, the role of qualitative and quantitative methods in research, the challenges of interdisciplinary work, and the ethical implications of AI and data-driven technologies. Sabina urges us to not fear inconvenience—embracing complexity and discomfort in intellectual and social pursuits. The conversation touches on the necessity of love, vulnerability & collective agency in navigating the modern world, offering profound insights into how we can rethink knowledge production, technology, and politics.
[00:00:00] Highlights & Introduction
[00:10:41] Interview Begins
[00:11:13] Sabina's Journey
[00:14:17] Fascination with Boundary-Disrespecting Thinkers
[00:16:20] Early Influences & Education
[00:19:21] Challenges of Interdisciplinary Work
[00:20:39] Mentors & Inspirations
[00:23:54] The Approach of Complementary Science
[00:28:37] Collaborating with Scientists as a Philosopher
[00:32:26] Philosophy of Data
[00:36:00] Questions Left Out of Biology
[00:37:40] Coming to terms with Social Epistemology
[00:40:05] Choices & Assumptions in Scientific Research
[00:40:05] Willingness to Engage with the Social Nature of Science
[00:44:05] Willingness to Use Different Methods
[00:48:05] Acknowledging the Role of Quantification
[00:50:27] Knowledge Hierarchies
[00:55:00] Mixed Methods for Global Issues
[00:57:00] Limits of AI: The Case of Medical Expertise
[00:58:52] AI as Complement to Expert Knowledge
[01:02:01] Cultural Obsession with Control & Convenience
[01:03:45] Social Media & Digital Divide
[01:07:20] Regaining Agency Through Politics
[01:12:30] Collective Action & Social Relationships
[01:15:00] Need for Political Engagement
[01:17:20] Contemporary Disillusionment
[01:19:40] Love as a Teacher
[01:22:20] Vulnerability & Human Experience
[01:25:50] Caring as Leverage for Engagement
Data Shadows (Art-Science Film Collaboration)
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#63 Shaping Habits Together: life's changes and challenges with cognitive scientist Mark Michael James
Love & Philosophy
Andrea in conversation with fellow cognitive scientist Mark Michael James, highlighting his journey from understanding patterns of being to shaping habits and realigning health. Mark shares his experiences from Ireland, his academic pursuits, and his present work at the Okinawa Institute of Science and Technology. This episode delves into synchronicity, embodied cognition, and the philosophies and practices of the arising 'school of way' of practice and philosophy which includes 'wayshaping' and 'waymaking' and pertains to a paper Mark has recently written with Mushfiqa Jamaluddin, Tom Froese, Aisha Belhadi, Anna Panagiotou, and Dave Snowden. It all ties back to practical applications in health, navigating complexity, and striving for a dynamic balance in life. Mark's personal stories and reflections make this a must-watch for anyone interested in cognitive science, philosophy, and the art of living well.
00:00 Introduction to Unexpected Contributions
00:35 Exploring the Concept of 'Craic'
00:56 Welcome to Love and Philosophy
01:02 Introducing Mark Michael James and His Work
02:23 Discussion on Synchronicity and Relevance Realization
06:47 Mark's Journey to Okinawa
12:39 Navigating Personal and Social Patterns
51:23 Health Challenges and Personal Stories
55:06 Sensory Irregularities and Scripts
56:21 Breaching Experiments and Sociological Insights
57:13 Cultural Patterns and the Irish Concept of 'The Crack'
01:03:26 Health, Habits, and Personal Transformation
01:08:05 Philosophical Reflections and Practical Applications
01:19:49 Wayshaping Framework and Multiscale Health
01:27:57 Personal Reflections and Future Directions
Wayshaping paper
Waymaking
Also, have a look at this book about Mindshaping by Michelle Maiese.
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#62: Living Philosophically and Thinking Wild with professor of technology Jessica Böhme
Love & Philosophy
Jessica Böhme is a sustainability scientist, transformation researcher, and founder of the Institute for Practical Eco Philosophy. Jessica shares her journey of exploring the connection between inner transformation and outer change, and how this quest has influenced her personal and professional life. Andrea and Jessica delve into the concept of living philosophically, the role of relational philosophies, and how they impact sustainability. They also discuss the challenges Jessica faced in academia, the significance of personal practices, and her innovative idea of 'philosophy gyms' aimed at integrating philosophy into everyday life for better ecological and business practices in the engineering world. Jessica also talks about her unique lifestyle choices, her artwork, and the broader implications of living a thoughtful, engaged life.
00:00 Introduction to Inner and Outer Change
00:29 Philosophy as a Way of Life
01:59 Welcome to Love and Philosophy
02:04 Introducing Jessica Böhme
02:37 Exploring Relational Philosophy
03:28 Philosophy Gyms and Ecological Love
04:21 The Knowledge-Action Gap
06:50 Jessica's Academic Journey
09:42 Inner Transformation and Sustainability
10:01 Mechanistic vs. Relational Worldview
12:34 Challenges in Sustainability Science
13:39 The Complexity of Relational Thinking
32:05 Philosophy as a Living Process
37:13 The Paradox of Science and Health
38:13 Personal and Planetary Health
39:43 Patterns in Health and Consumption
40:47 The Role of Awareness and Choice
42:28 Practical Eco Philosophy
44:04 Micro Habits and Daily Practices
48:34 Living Philosophically
59:44 The Concept of Wild
01:01:04 Art and Expression
01:04:51 Philosophy Gyms and Experiments
01:08:59 Final Thoughts and Farewell
Institute for Practical ekoPhilosophy
Pierre Hadot: Philosophy as a Way of Life
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#61: Burning to Give Light: the delicate balance of illness and insight with former Wall Streeter Tom Morgan
Love & Philosophy
The line between a psychotic break and success is not quite as clear as it once was, nor is the question of what medication, therapy, or practice is best, or in what amount. This conversation tries to unpack that liminal space with a man who knows it well and has been able to stay connected to the love in it.
In this episode of Love and Philosophy, Andrea engages in an in-depth conversation with Tom Morgan, exploring the complexities of love, philosophy, and personal transformation. They discuss the challenging balance between high-functioning careers and spiritual pursuits, the misconceptions around self-sacrifice and service, and the importance of community in navigating life transitions. Tom shares his personal journey from a high-stress finance career through an awakening experience, detailing his struggles with mental health, the role of psychiatric medication, and the lessons he's learned about integrating holistic and scientific perspectives. This episode delves into the nuanced intersections of mental health, personal growth, and the pursuit of meaning, offering invaluable insights for anyone on a similar path.
00:00 Introduction to Love and Philosophy
00:06 Exploring the Concept of Love
01:06 Introducing Tom Morgan
01:57 Tom's Journey from Finance to Philosophy
03:28 Balancing Wealth and Well-being
05:42 The Intersection of Science and Spirituality
08:28 Tom's Personal Awakening
13:54 Navigating the Hero's Journey
20:10 Challenges of Spiritual Integration
23:10 Holding the Tension Between Worlds
43:54 The Choice to Change
45:38 The Struggle with Identity and Career
47:07 Understanding Self-Sacrifice vs. Service
47:46 The Paradox of Complexity
51:01 The Role of Ketamine and Mental Health
58:56 Integrating Spiritual and Physical Health
01:06:45 The Importance of Community Support
01:09:58 Navigating High-Functioning Anxiety
01:17:23 Embracing Love and Contribution
01:22:50 The Future of Consciousness and Society
Professional Qalifications & Photo Ref (Wall Street, philosophy degree from Oxford, etc.)
Victor Frankl — 'What is to give light must endure burning.'
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#60: The Dao of Complexity with theoretical physicist Jean Boulton
Love & Philosophy
A heart-meets-mind discussion about complexity science and its suprising relation to Daoism, with physicist Jean Boulton. The conversation explores how stability and change are part of a reflexive interweaving of relationships, the importance of actions and behaviors in co-creating the future, and the role of compassion and love in fostering resilience. We also touch on the profound influence of spiritual practices such as Taoism and Buddhism on understanding complexity. The discussion emphasizes the necessity of integrating heart and mind, and how seemingly small, compassionate acts can create significant shifts. Whether you're interested in spiritual traditions, scientific perspectives, or personal development, this episode offers a rich tapestry of insights to inspire and guide you.
00:00 Introduction to Change and the Dao
00:33 The Interconnectedness of Actions and Behaviors
01:11 Embracing Complexity and Wider Perspectives
01:43 Guest Introduction: Jean's Background and Interests
01:50 Understanding Complexity in Science and Everyday Life
04:03 The Mechanistic Worldview vs. Complexity Science
06:29 Personal Journey: From Physics to Philosophy
08:09 The Influence of Family and Early Philosophical Interests
11:14 Process Complexity and the Dao
11:41 The Paradox of Stability and Change
13:31 The Role of Context and History in Shaping Patterns
14:11 Discovering Daoism and Its Connection to Complexity
15:47 The Nuances of Daoism in Understanding Complexity
19:21 The Importance of Actions, Intentions, and Purpose
26:13 The Role of Attention and Noticing in Complexity
27:55 Integrating Heart, Mind, and Body in Complexity Science
33:23 The Embodied Experience of Complexity
35:02 The Interdisciplinary Nature of Complexity
36:04 Meditation and Embodiment
37:19 Tibetan Yoga and Compassion
40:16 Childhood and Personal Growth
42:42 Societal Wounds and Addictions
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#59: Complexity Coding, Residuality Theory & the Hyperliminal: being flexible and rigid at once with architect Barry O'Reilly
Love & Philosophy
(Kaufmann Neworks are Boolean: see here if you want to know more, but you don't need to know anything about them to understand this episode)
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Embracing Uncertainty: Barry O'Reilly on Software Architecture and Philosophy
In this episode of Love and Philosophy, we sit down with Barry O'Reilly, a seasoned software architect with a deep background in pure mathematics and experience at top companies like Microsoft. He discusses his innovative concept, Residuality Theory, which introduces complexity theory into software development for the first time. Barry explains how traditional linear thinking in coding often leads to rigid and brittle constructs that fail to adapt to the constantly changing business environments. By embracing paradoxes and uncertainties using theories from philosophy and complexity sciences, Barry offers a new perspective on software architecture that combines the logical rigor of code with the adaptability required for real-world human systems. Join us for this thought-provoking conversation that bridges the gap between coding and philosophy, and learn how embracing uncertainty can lead to more resilient and flexible software solutions.
00:00 The Rigidity of Software vs. The Chaos of Business
00:46 The Philosophical Roots of Computer Science
01:28 The Architect's Paradox: Linear Thinking vs. Human Systems
02:20 Introducing Residue: Adapting to Change
03:16 The Relief of Embracing Uncertainty
04:16 Welcome to Love and Philosophy
11:34 Meet Barry O'Reilly: From Math to Software Architecture
16:02 The Journey to Complexity Theory
21:25 Handling Uncertainty in Software Projects
26:47 The Evolution of Software Engineering
31:42 The Birth of Residue and Ity Theory
38:17 The Need for a New Philosophical Approach
43:36 The Immaturity of Software Engineering
46:03 Personal Frustrations and Philosophical Pursuits
46:40 The Reflective Practitioner and Instinctive Problem Solving
47:13 Linear Thinking vs. Embracing Uncertainty
49:34 Philosophical Foundations in Software Engineering
01:05:03 Hyper Liminality and System Resilience
01:13:45 The Role of Play and Forgiveness in Software Development
01:19:16 Conclusion and Final Thoughts
Architect's Paradox: Uncertainty and the Philosophy of Software Architecture
Residues: Time, Change, and Uncertainty in Software Architecture.
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#58: Hill Making & Lessons for Living with WIRED co-founder Kevin Kelly
Love & Philosophy
Andrea sits down with Kevin Kelly, a true pioneer in the world of technology and futurism. Known for his foundational work with Whole Earth, Wired Magazine and definitive pieces like '1000 True Fans,' Kelly shares insights from his early fascination with science fiction to his groundbreaking contributions in understanding and shaping the digital age and technological ideas. They discuss the profound influence of science fiction on technological advancements, the humanizing impact of the internet, and the vital importance of travel and curiosity for finding meaning. Kelly explains the nuanced continuum between biology and technology, the concept of 'hill making' versus 'hill climbing' in innovation, and how love and community remain central to his work. As they delve into Kelly's latest book 'Excellent Advice for Living,' this conversation offers rich perspectives on maintaining creativity, embracing complexity, and fostering an optimistic outlook in an ever-evolving world.
00:00 Introduction and Early Influences
00:05 The Role of Science Fiction in Shaping Technology
01:58 Discovering the Internet as a New Frontier
04:30 Welcome to Love and Philosophy
04:36 Kevin Kelly's Background and Achievements
09:30 Early Encounters with Computers
14:28 The Humanizing Effect of the Internet
17:42 Meeting Stewart Brand and the Whole Earth Catalog
28:01 The Importance of Travel and Broader Perspectives
33:38 The Transformative Power of Travel
34:37 Embracing Unique Paths in Life
35:47 The Value of Time Over Money
40:16 The Birth of Artificial Life and Wired Magazine
46:34 The Paradox of Progress and Creativity
53:38 The Importance of Noticing and Small Steps
01:01:33 Hill Making vs. Hill Climbing
01:02:59 Final Thoughts on Love and Life
Whole Earth Catalogue and Whole Earth Review
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#57: Complexity Fatigue & the Third Entity with philosophers and neuroscientists Beck Todd, Shay Welch and Penijean Gracefire
Love & Philosophy
Participatory sense-making is a term coined by Hanne De Jaegher & Ezequiel Di Paolo. Both these philosophers will be featured in upcoming episodes.
Andrea Hiott hosts Rebecca Todd, Shay Welch, and Penijean Gracefire explore intricate themes of participatory sensemaking, the concept of the 'third entity,' and the impact of trauma and love on interpersonal relationships. The discussion delves into how the body acts as a data-gathering device, how sensory inputs shape our understanding of the world, and the importance of mutual sense-making in a highly complex and often overwhelming environment. Each speaker shares their unique perspectives and experiences, from cognitive neuroscience to ethical interactions, ultimately highlighting the significance of staying connected both with others and oneself. This conversation is intellectually stimulating and emotionally enriching, drawing on neuroscience, philosophy, and mental health to offer fresh insights into navigating the complexities of human interaction.
00:00 Introduction to the Body as a Data Gathering Device
00:57 The Futility of Communication and Social Media
02:35 Welcome to Love and Philosophy
02:52 Participatory Sense Making and Social Cognition
04:46 Meet the Three: Beck Todd, Shay Welch, and Penijean Gracefire
05:46 Rebecca Todd: Cognitive Neuroscience and Life Experience
08:13 Penijean Gracefire: Neurotechnology and Human Function
12:21 Shay Welch: Philosophy, Public Art, and Participatory Sensemaking
15:50 Exploring the Concept of the Body
23:09 The Role of EEG in Understanding the Brain
52:36 The Impact of Trauma on Sensemaking
53:25 Introduction to Anchors and Interactions
54:14 Effortful Sense Making Shaped by Love
55:16 Individual Differences in Sensory Systems
56:24 Neuromodulation and Sense Making
59:24 Visualization and Communication Challenges
01:03:07 Complexity Fatigue and Bandwidth
01:14:11 Neuromodulation Device Experiment
01:20:35 Participatory Sense Making with the More-than-Human World
01:29:34 Challenges of Virtual Interaction
01:36:48 The Futility and Hope of Communication
What is Participatory Sense-making and Why Should We Care?
Steve Paxton, originator of the practice of contact improvisation, himself says: “The reason it’s called contact improvisation is because there is a third entity that arises in the state – it is the state of agreement between the two of you that neither one is leading. It doesn’t become leaderless, the two of you are leading.” Source
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BONUS: A Quick Podcast about Podcast(s) with Andrea & Fotis
Love & Philosophy
Andrea and Fotis (a guest host of L&P) explore the intricate world of podcasting. Fotis, returning from a previous episode and getting ready to do his second podcast for L&P, asks Andrea about the podcast's growth. In this unplanned chat, the two talk a bit about what podcasts mean to them, Game B, the intersection of various disciplines, and the broader impact of podcasting as a medium. They discuss the research and connective side of podcasting and reflect on this new journey, sharing insights on authenticity, community-building, and the challenges of navigating complex topics. Tune in for a quick half-hour chat that delves into their motivations, the evolution of their podcast, and the significance of having meaningful, open-hearted conversations that come from a place of love, even when they are challenging.
01:13 Discussing Podcast Growth and Community
02:02 The Philosophy Behind Podcasting
05:25 Challenges and Responsibilities of Content Creation
07:30 Interconnectedness and Network Building
11:15 The Unique Nature of Podcasts
12:14 Exploring Diverse Podcast Communities
26:02 Future Directions and Personal Reflections
34:31 Concluding Thoughts and Next Steps
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#56: Radical Incompleteness & Windows of Ritournelle with poet philosopher Bayo Akomolafe
Love & Philosophy
Ritournelle is a concept created by Gilles Deleuze & Felix Guattari for A Thousand Plateaus (1987.) It's the main subject of 11th plateau 1837: Of the refrain. In this episode of 'Love and Philosophy,' host Andrea Hiott engages in a deep and thought-provoking conversation with philosopher, psychologist, and poet Bayo Akomolafe. They discuss the transformative power of love, the complexities beyond binary categorizations, and the idea of life as a process filled with relational tensions and incompleteness. The discussion covers Bayo's personal journey, including reflections on his father and his book 'These Wilds Beyond Our Fences.' They explore themes of care, disruption, and the radical incompleteness of reality, providing listeners with insights into how we can embrace the multiplicities of being human.
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00:00 Introduction to Categories and Relational Tensions
02:20 Welcome to Love and Philosophy
02:43 Introducing Bayo Akomolafe
03:19 Themes of the Podcast and Bayo's Background
05:36 Binaries and Relationality
09:11 Personal Reflections and Philosophical Insights
09:46 The Concept of Retournello and Repetition
10:56 Navigating Categories and Structures
12:22 The Story of Bayo's Daughter
14:17 Philosophical Reflections on Life and Death
23:05 The Role of Trauma and Healing
32:11 The Pandemic and Societal Reflections
36:42 Love as Radical Incompleteness
38:27 Conclusion and Farewell
host and philosopher Andrea Hiott
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#55: How Shall we Live? with anthropologist and lineologist Tim Ingold
Love & Philosophy
Life is not built by blocks but by lines woven together according to Tim Ingold, emeritus professor of anthropology at the University of Aberdeen and a leading thinker in anthropology and philosophy. Tim Ingold and Andrea Hiott explore key themes from Tim's influential works, such as 'Anthropology: Why It Matters' and 'Lines,' discussing how life is a continuous journey along interwoven threads and traces shaped by our every action. Building on Gibson, Deleuze, Hallowell, Merleau-Ponty, and others, Ingold's idea of 'wayfaring' as our fundamental mode of being challenges traditional distinctions between nature and culture, mind and body, and forces us out of block-mind and into traces and threads of life interwoven. This enriching dialogue touches on the importance of awareness, attention, and responsibility, offering insights into how these ideas can help us navigate toward a world where love and respect for life are central. Whether it's through storytelling, music, or everyday actions, learn how our paths shape our humanity and influence the futures we create. This episode is an opportunity to reflect on how we should live together in a world full of possibility, a world we love enough to take responsibility for together.
00:00 Introduction to Love and Philosophy
00:05 Introducing Tim Ingold and His Work
00:43 The Concept of Lines in Life
01:43 Wayfaring and Life as a Process
02:54 The Importance of Awareness and Responsibility
04:18 Tim Ingold's Influences and Philosophical Approach
10:28 Tim Ingold's Early Life and Inspirations
17:26 Fieldwork and Anthropology
25:16 Challenging Traditional Divisions in Science and Humanities
32:07 The Evolution of Tim Ingold's Thought
48:47 Revisiting Nature and Culture
51:48 Anthropology as a Conversation
54:46 The Anthropological Conversation
56:12 Subject and Object in Anthropology
57:58 The Middle Voice of the Verb
59:39 Crafting and Teaching
01:06:38 The Concept of Lines
01:13:24 Embodiment and Attention
01:27:42 The Future of Technology and Education
01:39:52 Hope for the Future
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Lines, the book
‘For we are made of lines. We are not only referring to lines of writing. Lines of writing conjugate with other lines, life lines, lines of luck or misfortune, lines productive of the variation of the line of writing itself, lines that are between the lines of writing.’
— Gilles Deleuze and Félix Guattari, A Thousand Plateaus
A great interview with Tim Ingold by Juan Loaiza for ENSO.
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#54: Project Love: What We Make & How it Makes Us with service designer Clive Grinyer
Love & Philosophy
"If a thing loves, it is infinite" William Blake:
In this episode of Love and Philosophy, Andrea engages with Clive Grinyer, a renowned industrial and service designer and the director of Project Love. The discussion centers around how design can be a catalyst for fostering love, empathy, and compassion in society, and how this is a form of collective cognition. They explore various innovative projects, including a conversational bench, a heat map app, and a secular gravestone for natural beauty spots. The conversation delves into the philosophy behind design and how it influences our daily interactions and emotions. Grinyer shares insights from his extensive experience and highlights the transformative impact of design thinking in both personal and societal contexts.
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00:00 Introduction: The Power of Design
01:17 Welcome to Love and Philosophy
01:43 Introducing Clive Grinyer and Project Love
06:19 Exploring Love Through Design
07:17 Defining Love and Design
21:39 Innovative Projects and Concepts
28:59 Community and Societal Impact
35:47 The Social Impact of Design
35:51 Designing for Sustainability and Economic Viability
36:01 The Complexity and Perception of Design
36:19 The Role of AI in Design
36:59 Technology and Human Experience
37:19 Design in Everyday Life
38:16 The Evolution of Technology Design
39:22 Emotional Design and User Experience
40:25 Project Love: Designing for Compassion
01:02:00 Empathy in Design
01:04:39 Future Directions and Community Building
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About Clive:
"Clive Grinyer is an internationally renowned designer who has led global design teams at Samsung, Cisco, Orange and Barclays, worked at design consultancy IDEO, and was co-founder of the design company Tangerine. Starting as a product designer he has moved across digital, customer experience and service design and was Director of Design for the UK Design Council. As Head of Service Design at the Royal College of Art, he pioneered design as a tool for social impact, shaping how we respond to the environmental crisis and develop life services including financial and healthcare. He is an advisor and delivers executive training to companies including Bosch, the Dorchester Collection of hotels, and the Bank of England. Clive was a trustee of the Royal Society of Arts, Chair of the Design Business Association Effectiveness awards and visiting professor at the Glasgow School of Art. He is currently based in London."
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#53: Another Needful Freedom: Truth in Tension with Mike Brock, ex-tech-exec, reluctant Cassandra
Love & Philosophy
'Needful Freedom' comes from the work of philosopher Hans Jonas and though this podcast is not about Jonas, Andrea and Mike discuss this term towards understanding the skill of the future.
Mike's bio: "Ex-tech exec, now a reluctant Cassandra. Penning dispatches from democracy's peril at notesfromthecircus.com. Unmasking the unholy alliance of Silicon Valley and aspiring despots. 2+2=4, even when power insists otherwise."
Cognitive Revolution: Mike Brock on Love, Truth, and the Future of Democracy:
In this deep and thought-provoking episode, Mike Brock, an ex-tech executive and renowned writer, dives into the essence of human flourishing, liberal philosophy, and the crises we face today. With a powerful call for a cognitive revolution, Brock explores the balance between freedom and obligation, the pitfalls of technology, and the importance of love and shared understanding in navigating uncertainty. This conversation spans from historical insights to current events, offering a nuanced perspective on what it means to stay human in a rapidly changing world.
The Manifesto of the Cognitive Revolution
The Matrix as an Example
Phenomenon of Life by Hans Jonas (Di Paolo)
00:00 Introduction to Human Flourishing and Liberalism
02:11 Welcome to Love and Philosophy
02:23 Introducing Mike Brock
03:16 The Cognitive Revolution and Love
05:31 The Role of Algorithms and Technology
06:41 The Grand Praxis and Emotional Honesty
32:44 Exploring Liberalism and Its Tensions
45:20 The Problem with Marxism and Liberalism
47:24 The Liberal Frontier and Welfare State
50:02 Debating Bias and Neutrality
01:14:35 The Crisis of Epistemic Fragmentation
01:18:39 The Role of Technology in Human Experience
01:30:18 The Fear of Asking Questions
01:30:54 Tech Oligarchs and Social Media Impact
01:33:44 The Cognitive Revolution
01:36:31 Praxis and Emotional Connection
01:37:40 The Role of a Prosecutor in Memetic Warfare
01:41:03 The Importance of Intellectual Honesty
01:41:46 The Intersection of Love and Philosophy
01:56:16 The Tension Between Creation and Chaos
01:57:16 The Legacy of Thinkers: Sagan and Hitchens
02:12:26 The Necessity of Intellectual Gatekeeping
02:14:31 The Importance of Understanding and Dialogue
02:15:37 Path Dependency and Shared Experiences
02:16:41 Frustrations with Social Justice Activism
02:17:48 The Role of Persuasion in Social Progress
02:21:32 AI Governance and Democratic Values
02:23:03 The Dangers of Algorithmic Thinking
02:31:06 Elon Musk and the Temptation of Efficiency
02:41:54 The Call for a Cognitive Revolution
02:53:25 Final Thoughts and Advice for Authentic Living
Clear Thinking vs. Curtis Yarvin
Sacrifice, Truth, and Why We Fight
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#52: We Are Not Machines! Agency & Science beyond Computationalism with Fotis and Yogi (Johannes Jaeger)
Love & Philosophy
#paradox of #love and #agency Yogi aka. Johannes Jaeger like to fashion himself as a natural philosopher. After having his own lab and being the director of an institute in Vienna he left academia for pursuing intellectual production independently. He is part of an science-art collective in Vienna called The Zone. His focus has been primarily focused on his book, Beyond the Age of #Machines, which he had been publishing incrementally in digital form. Fotis Tsiroukis is a cross-disciplinary researcher interested in the intersection between humanities, science and new media. Also a cyborg...
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In this episode of the Love & Philosophy Podcast, host Fotis engages in a deep and
thought-provoking conversation with Johannes "Yogi" Jaeger, a freelance scholar and biologist-turned-philosopher. Yogi critiques the dominant "machine worldview" that has shaped modernity, arguing that it has led human civilization to a dangerous "cliff edge". He advocates for a shift towards a process-oriented, relational metaphysics that emphasizes the interconnectedness of living systems and the limitations of computational models. Yogi also discusses the pitfalls of AI, the dangers of technological hubris, and the need for a new kind of science that reconnects us with reality. The conversation touches on themes of agency, the limitations of a computationalist worldview and the importance of tough love in guiding humanity towards a more sustainable and meaningful future.
#computationalism
1. [00:00:00] Snippets
2. [00:02:10] Introduction (by Fotis)
3. [00:10:00] Yogi as a Natural Philosopher
4. [00:13:00] Critique of Modern Science
5. [00:14:30] Yogi’s Journey of Dissilusionment: from Molecular Biologist to Freelance
Theorist
6. [00:20:00] The Problem with the Academic System
7. [00:25:00] The Need for a New Metaphysics
8. [00:28:00] Getting Back in Touch with Reality
9. [00:32:00] Postmodernism & Metamodernism
10. [00:36:00] The Danger of Technological Hubris
11. [00:40:00] Complexity Science and the Pitfalls of the Computationalist Wordlview
12. [00:45:00] The Illusion of Total Control
13. [00:49:00] The Misuse of AI
14. [00:54:00] Preping for the Collapse of this Civilization
15. [00:57:00] AI "Agents" aren't Real Agents
16. [01:05:00] The Illusion of AI Sentience
17. [01:10:00] The Free Energy Principle and Reductionism
18. [01:20:00] The Importance of Relevance Realization
19. [01:25:00] The Role of Relationality and Connection
20. [01:30:00] Tough Love for Humanity
21. [01:35:00] Closing Thoughts
Yogi's Theory Paper on Dynamical
Metamodernism Primer
Bluesky:
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#51: Body Knowledge with philosophers Shay Welch and Elena Cuffari
Love & Philosophy
Elena Clare Cuffari is a Professor at Franklin and Marshall College. Shay Welch is a professor at Spelman College in Atlanta. In this episode, they discuss embodied cognition and participatory sensemaking in relation to marginalized body epistemologies. They share insights from a recent conference that brought together diverse perspectives on how embodied cognition intersects with issues of race, gender, and activism. Welch emphasizes that she never separates her scholarship from her personal life, seeing philosophy as inherently connected to her lived experience. Cuffari highlights the collaborative and interdisciplinary nature of her work with colleagues, which seeks to challenge traditional philosophical boundaries. They address the challenges of integrating marginalized voices into academic fields and the importance of recognizing the body's knowledge. The conversation also touches on the discomfort that arises in both academic and social contexts when established norms are challenged, and how this requires responsibility beyond blame.
00:00 Building a Community for Philosophical Dialogue
02:02 Introduction to Embodied Cognition and Participatory Sensemaking
02:22 Exploring Personal Philosophical Interests
04:11 Defining Embodied Cognition and Participatory Sensemaking
08:08 The Roots and Relevance of Embodied Cognition
15:14 Challenges in Academia and Marginalized Philosophies
28:51 The Concept of Normalcy in Philosophy and Society
37:17 Addressing Misunderstandings in Philosophy
39:34 Inclusivity and Change in Philosophy
43:18 Discomfort and Openness in Philosophical Inquiry
49:44 Marginalized Body Epistemologies
01:01:43 The Intersection of Philosophy and Personal Experience
01:05:57 Reflections on the Conference and Future Directions
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Shay Welch: https://spelman.academia.edu/shaywelch
Read Rebecca Todd's post about Shay
Elena Cuffari: https://www.elenaclarecuffari.com/
Women in embodied Cognition: https://women-4e.com/
Oxford Handbook of 4E Cognition
What is Feminist Phenomenology?
The Phenomenology of a Performative Knowledge System: https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-030-04936-2#bibliographic-information
Linguistic Bodies: https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262547864/linguistic-bodies/
The quote Shay reads is chapter 8 of this book:
https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/oppression-and-the-body-christine-caldwell/1126641713
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#50: Love and Liberation in Times of Crisis with philosopher Rupert Read (and Wittgenstein)
Love & Philosophy
In this episode, which was recorded in the autumn of 2024, Andrea Hiott talks with environmental philosopher and public intellectual Rupert Read. They delve into Read's realization that 'this civilization is finished,' his engagement with Wittgenstein's philosophy (especially the book he edited with Alice Crary), his subsequent involvement with Extinction Rebellion, how he has come to understand crisis as inflections of love, and the 'moving forward' work of the Climate Majority Project. The conversation explores themes of crisis, consciousness, intergenerational solidarity, and the liberating power of love and truth in the face of existential challenges. Read shares insights from his academic and activist career, emphasizing the importance of inner work, eco-spirituality, and the collective struggle for a better future.
00:00 A Shocking Revelation
00:20 Philosophy and Freedom
01:02 Wittgenstein's Wonderful Life
01:20 Embracing Difficult Emotions
02:29 Introduction to the Interview
02:33 Rupert Reed's Background
04:21 Philosophy as Therapy
05:06 Love as Action
07:51 Rupert Reed's Crisis
09:50 Philosophy and Personal Crisis
11:33 Wittgenstein's Liberatory Philosophy
23:28 Spiritual Practices and Eco-Spirituality
37:05 Climate Courage Campaign
39:16 The Importance of Truth
44:07 The Path to Truthfulness
44:55 The Revelation: Civilization is Finished
46:49 Engaging with Students and Public Reaction
47:54 Joining Extinction Rebellion
48:50 The Challenge of Facing Hard Realities
51:18 The Importance of Paradox and Love
55:21 The Role of Anxiety and Dreams
57:48 Extinction Rebellion's Evolution
01:01:49 The Climate Majority Project
01:10:51 Intergenerational Solidarity and Responsibility
01:17:24 Embracing Difficult Emotions
01:22:50 Final Thoughts and Invitation to Action
Links to what we discuss:
New Wittgenstein book with Alice Crary
Foucault
Rupert on Politics Live
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5oAr9q277g
https://dark-mountain.net/the-deluge/
https://www.parentsforafuture.org/
Thrutopia https://youtu.be/b1trbea-BkU?si=YlhO13yioc6jTekO
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#49: Empowerment in Robotics: Solo Brainstorm & AI Bonus Conversation with Dari Trendafilov
Love & Philosophy
Decoding the Empowerment Measurement in AI and Robotics with Dari Trendafilov. Dari has a PhD in Computing Science from the University of Glasgow, UK. His research interests are situated at the intersection of Artificial Intelligence, Robotics and Human–Computer Interaction. He specialized in probabilistic information-theoretic modelling of complex systems and analysis of computational and interactive cognitive systems in the context of social and human–robot interaction. Towards his aim of establishing the fundamental information processing principles driving decision-making in living organisms, he has developed information-theoretic models and tools for the study of human sensorimotor dynamics, robotic and simulated systems, based on behavioural and physiological sensing and analysis.
In this episode, Andrea and Dari explore the concept of empowerment in the context of artificial intelligence and robotics. The discussion covers Claude Shannon's information theory, intrinsic and extrinsic motivations, and the application of these theories in human-computer interaction and swarm robotics. Dari shares insights from his research on swarm intelligence and the use of evolutionary algorithms for collective decision-making. The episode also touches on the broader implications of modeling intelligence and the dynamic interaction between agents and their environments.
00:00 Welcome to Love and Philosophy
00:11 Understanding Empowerment and Information Theory
01:41 Empowerment in Artificial Intelligence
04:43 Robotics and Human Interaction
06:56 Exploring the Concept of Empowerment
19:29 Swarm Robotics and Collective Intelligence
33:59 Intrinsic vs Extrinsic Motivation
40:36 Modeling Nature Through Robotics
42:38 The Journey to Empowerment Research
43:28 Challenges in Human-Computer Interaction
44:04 Interdisciplinary Approaches to Usability
44:50 Usability Engineering and Market Demands
45:30 Formal Models and Theories in HCI
47:20 Understanding Empowerment in HCI
51:01 The Role of Affordances
52:33 Introduction to Empowerment
53:07 Empowerment in Practice
53:33 Empowerment as a Measure
01:00:56 Applications and Implications of Empowerment
01:08:11 Swarm Robotics and Collective Intelligence
01:14:16 Modeling Intelligence and Future Directions
Empowerment papers
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1201.6583
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2003.08158
https://arxiv.org/pdf/2203.03355
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1710.05101
https://arxiv.org/pdf/1509.08731
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2801531/
Empowerment Paper
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#48: In Defense of the Human Being with Thomas Fuchs
Love & Philosophy
Exploring Human Embodiment and Conviviality with Thomas Fuchs, the Karl Jaspers Professor of Philosophy and Psychiatry, Heidelberg University, Germany
Join Andrea for an insightful conversation with Thomas Fuchs, a philosopher and psychiatrist at Universität Heidelberg, as they delve into his book, 'In Defense of the Human Being.' Explore the profound questions about our distinctiveness from machines, the concept of 'conviviality,' and the essence of human embodiment. They discuss the oscillation between self-aggrandizement and self-contempt and how intersubjectivity and embodied experiences are central to understanding what it means to be human. Discover how modern technology impacts our self-perception and the importance of regaining a balanced relationship with our body and others. This episode is a deep dive into the notions of self-awareness, bodily presence, and the interrelation of life, mind, and technology.
00:00 Introduction: Are We Distinct from Machines?
01:32 Welcome to Love and Philosophy
01:36 Introducing Thomas Fuchs and His Work
02:15 Conviviality and Intersubjectivity
03:51 The Theory of Mind and Human Experience
07:56 The Defense of the Human Being
08:51 The Impact of Technology and Transhumanism
18:18 Embodiment and the Human Condition
24:23 The Illusion of Mind-Body Separation
40:29 The Role of Intersubjectivity
57:53 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections
In Defense of the Human Body
Thomas Fuchs, Karl Jaspers Professor of Philosophy and Psychiatry, Heidelberg University, Germany
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#47: Love Beyond Subject and Object with therapist & neuroscientist Mark Solms
Love & Philosophy
Mark Solms | Part 2 | Can love bring us beyond traditional divides?
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Mark Solms is a professor in the Department of Neuropsychology at the University of Cape Town: "My early research focused on the brain mechanisms of sleep and dreaming led to an interest in consciousness, which is currently my major focus. My emphasis is on brainstem mechanisms of consciousness and the foundational role of affect, emotional affect in particular. This work has included applications to various neuropsychiatric disorders, such as anosognosia and confabulatory amnesia, and, more recently, depression and addiction."
In this episode, Andrea and Mark discuss the intricate dimensions of love and consciousness. Solms and Hiott explore the various elements that constitute love, including romantic love, attachment, and care. Solms highlights the complexities of human emotions and how they integrate into love and relationships. Solms also discusses the concepts of narcissism, object love, and how the integration of different emotional drives forms advanced states of mind. The conversation touches on the importance of subjectivity in neuroscience, the development of self-awareness, and Freud's contribution to understanding human nature. The episode provides a nuanced look at how feelings are fundamental to conscious experience and the obligation of science to incorporate subjectivity into its worldview.
00:00 Understanding Consciousness and Self-Awareness
00:55 The Complexity of Love and Relationships
02:47 Introduction to the Podcast and Guest
04:48 Exploring the Concept of Love
05:40 The Components of Romantic Love
08:20 Attachment and Care in Relationships
11:56 Balancing Emotions in Love
17:18 The Role of Feelings in Human Nature
29:05 Exploring the Nature of Love in Mammals
30:33 Philosophical Love: The Quest for Knowledge
31:25 Lust and Its Complex Relationship with Love
32:42 Freud's Concept of Narcissism
35:22 Integrating Lust and Attachment
43:36 The Evolution of Consciousness
51:28 Freud's Scientific Project and Subjectivity
57:05 Balancing Objective and Subjective Realities
01:00:08 Concluding Thoughts on Love and Consciousness
Mark Solms
Hidden Spring
Love and Its Place in Nature
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#46: Rhythms of Nature & Love: Hegel's Concept of Life with philosopher Karen Ng
Love & Philosophy
Logic, Self-consciousness, and the continuity of mind and life: This episode is with Karen Ng, author of Hegel's Concept of Life, and an Associate Professor of Philosophy at Vanderbilt University. Andrea and Karen discuss Hegel's concept of life, self-consciousness, and the problem of contradiction, emphasizing how life and love are fundamental to understanding his ideas. The episode moves through Kant's influence on Hegel, internal and external purposiveness, and how these philosophical concepts relate to our modern understanding of the mind, nature, and meaning. Karen shares her journey and insights on making Hegel’s complex ideas accessible and relevant to contemporary issues.
Philosopher Karen Ng
Hegel's Concept of Life
00:00 Hegel's Contradictory Philosophy
00:31 The Concept of Life and Self-Consciousness
02:48 Karen Ng's Insights on Hegel
09:48 Understanding Hegel's Rationalism
17:57 Kant's Influence and the Copernican Turn
25:11 Mechanism vs. Teleology in Philosophy
29:57 Internal vs. External Purposiveness
37:08 Life as Process and Meaning
40:34 Hegel's Radical Thought on Intelligibility and Life
41:44 The Connection Between Life and Meaning
42:25 Hegel's Perspective on Self-Consciousness and Life
44:14 The Role of Logic and Life in Hegel's Philosophy
49:46 Hegel's Critique of Cartesian Dualism
51:31 The Speculative Identity Thesis and Cognition
53:36 Modern Philosophical Challenges and Hegel's Relevance
54:26 Hegel's Influence and Contemporary Philosophers
01:01:28 The Journey of Writing a Book on Hegel
01:09:05 Hegel's Concept of Love and Life
01:14:46 Concluding Thoughts on Hegel's Philosophy
Karen Ng at Vanderbilt University
“True union, or love proper, exists only between living beings who are alike in power and thus in one another’s eyes living beings from every point of view; in no respect is either dead for the other.”
“… love is a sensing of something living …”
These Hegel quotes that Karen mentions are from the fragment on love, published in Early Theological Writings, trans. T.M. Knox, UPenn Press, 1975. The passages are on pages 304 and 305. And the German can be found in volume 1 of the Suhrkamp edition of Hegel’s Werke.
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#45: Living Beyond the Blind Spot with Philosopher Evan Thompson
Love & Philosophy
Happy 2025 ❤️ everyone.
Philosopher Evan Thompson discusses 'The Blind Spot' which delves into the complexities of human perception, science, and the interconnectedness of nature. Together Andrea Hiott and Evan Thompson explore themes such as the impact of idealized scientific models on our understanding of reality, the importance of integrating arts and humanities with STEM disciplines, and the urgency of addressing ecological and meaning crises. The episode also touches on the historical context and influences behind Thompson's work, including his upbringing around pioneering thinkers like Lynn Margulis, Francisco Varela and Gregory Bateson. Evan wrote The Blind Spot with astrophysicist Adam Frank and theoretical physicist Marcelo Gleiser.
00:00 Understanding the Crisis: Human Impact on the Planet
02:25 Introduction to Love and Philosophy
02:46 Interview with Philosopher Evan Thompson
03:02 Exploring Evan Thompson's Background and Influences
04:36 Discussing 'The Blind Spot' and Its Themes
05:32 The Concept of Crisis and Its Philosophical Roots
06:18 The Parable of Temperature and Scientific Abstraction
21:40 The Bifurcation of Nature and Its Implications
35:19 Philosophical Practices and Cognitive Humility
41:06 Philosophers with a Scientific Background
41:35 The Crisis of Meaning in Science
42:26 Science Triumph and Denial
44:36 Educational Emphasis on STEM
45:36 Technology and Scientific Models
47:02 Atoms, Electrons, and Reality
50:07 Large Language Models and Understanding
56:53 The Evolution of Cognitive Science
01:00:24 The Influence of Heterodox Thinkers
01:14:31 The Importance of Love in Knowledge
01:17:17 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections
The Blind Spot
Evan Thompson
Einstein and Bergson
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#44: The Flow of Life: An Unusual Winter Walk with Karl Friston and his Free Energy Principle
Love & Philosophy
Karl Friston has ranked as 'the most influential brain scientist in the world' and been called a genius (as in the WIRED magazine piece), though many find his work mysterious. The melody of this unique conversation between Karl and Andrea, however, is the concept of 'flow' and how it relates to making the right choices within a constantly changing world. Andrea and Karl also explore Friston's significant contributions, including active inference and the free energy principle, discussing how these models might provide a first-principles account of sentient behavior. The conversation covers a wide range of topics, from the mathematics and neuroscience behind Friston's theories to practical implications in understanding human behavior and consciousness. It also touches on the theme of interconnectedness, emphasizing the importance of listening, empathy, and holding paradoxes to understand the patterns that connect various scales of life and cognition.
00:00 Introduction to Flow and Existence
02:42 Welcome to Love and Philosophy
02:53 Holiday Episode and One-Year Anniversary
03:59 Introducing Karl Friston and His Work
04:32 Understanding the Free Energy Principle
04:59 The Intersection of Math, Neuroscience, and Everyday Life
12:24 Karl Friston's Journey and Contributions
21:16 The Role of Psychiatry in Karl's Career
24:34 The Disconnection Hypothesis in Schizophrenia
29:53 The Evolution of Brain Imaging
36:17 The Importance of Brain Imaging Software
39:07 Statistical Parametric Mapping Explained
41:27 Functional Segregation and Integration
42:36 Dynamic Causal Modeling and Connectivity
43:00 Voxel-Based Morphometry (VBM)
44:18 The Paradigm Shift in Cognitive Neuroscience
49:43 The Free Energy Principle and Active Inference
50:34 Unconscious Inference and Bayesian Belief
58:53 Thermostats vs. Human Cognition
01:06:44 Affordances and the Free Energy Principle
01:20:02 Scale Invariance and the Free Energy Principle
01:22:23 Entropy and Energy in Thermodynamics
01:23:39 Understanding Sensory Entropy
01:25:47 Maximizing Variational Entropy
01:29:25 Fractals and Multiscale Patterns
01:35:02 Hierarchies in the Brain
01:46:40 Generative Models and Perspective
01:52:46 Social Neuroscience and Group Dynamics
01:57:40 The Importance of Listening and Empathy
02:00:46 Reflections and New Year Resolutions
History of the Future
Karl Friston Google Scholar
Active Inference Institute
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#67: Autonomy, Autopoiesis & the Enactive Approach with philosopher Ezequiel Di Paolo
1:12:51
#66 Harmonizing the Dao with analytic philosopher Eric Schwitzgebel
1:23:20
#65 Play & Meaningful Uncertainty: Active Inference and Intellectual Sweet Spots with Julian Kiverstein of Amsterdam UMC
1:23:00
#64: Complimentary Science & the Lure of Convenience with philosopher of technology Sabina Leonelli and Fotis Tsiroukis
1:25:56
#63 Shaping Habits Together: life's changes and challenges with cognitive scientist Mark Michael James
1:49:26
#62: Living Philosophically and Thinking Wild with professor of technology Jessica Böhme
1:08:59
#61: Burning to Give Light: the delicate balance of illness and insight with former Wall Streeter Tom Morgan
1:27:14
#60: The Dao of Complexity with theoretical physicist Jean Boulton
1:12:42
#59: Complexity Coding, Residuality Theory & the Hyperliminal: being flexible and rigid at once with architect Barry O'Reilly
1:22:19
#58: Hill Making & Lessons for Living with WIRED co-founder Kevin Kelly
1:03:46
#57: Complexity Fatigue & the Third Entity with philosophers and neuroscientists Beck Todd, Shay Welch and Penijean Gracefire
1:43:48
BONUS: A Quick Podcast about Podcast(s) with Andrea & Fotis
35:53
#56: Radical Incompleteness & Windows of Ritournelle with poet philosopher Bayo Akomolafe
39:35
#55: How Shall we Live? with anthropologist and lineologist Tim Ingold
1:39:32
#54: Project Love: What We Make & How it Makes Us with service designer Clive Grinyer
1:06:37
#53: Another Needful Freedom: Truth in Tension with Mike Brock, ex-tech-exec, reluctant Cassandra
2:56:24
#52: We Are Not Machines! Agency & Science beyond Computationalism with Fotis and Yogi (Johannes Jaeger)
1:35:54
#51: Body Knowledge with philosophers Shay Welch and Elena Cuffari
1:17:23
#50: Love and Liberation in Times of Crisis with philosopher Rupert Read (and Wittgenstein)
1:25:16
#49: Empowerment in Robotics: Solo Brainstorm & AI Bonus Conversation with Dari Trendafilov
1:15:10
#48: In Defense of the Human Being with Thomas Fuchs
1:04:40
#47: Love Beyond Subject and Object with therapist & neuroscientist Mark Solms
1:00:36
#46: Rhythms of Nature & Love: Hegel's Concept of Life with philosopher Karen Ng
1:15:26
#45: Living Beyond the Blind Spot with Philosopher Evan Thompson
1:19:54
#44: The Flow of Life: An Unusual Winter Walk with Karl Friston and his Free Energy Principle
2:01:56