The extra-Ordinary Leader with Dolly Waddell
The extra-Ordinary Leader is a show that takes a collaborative approach to uncover what it means to be a leader in the 21st century.
Through a series of open and honest conversations with a selection of top business leaders and leadership coaches, Dolly Waddell takes us on a journey to unravel the complex world of leadership in the 21st century.
The extra-Ordinary Leader with Dolly Waddell
S4 09: Why extra-Ordinary Leaders Build the Conditions for Growth (Not Just Performance) with Sophie Bowen
In this episode of The extra-Ordinary Leader, I’m joined by Sophie Bowen, Head of Learning & Development at COOK Trading Ltd, a business widely recognised for its award-winning culture, human-centred leadership and long-term commercial success.
Sophie has spent 15 years inside COOK, embedding learning and development into the fabric of the business rather than treating it as a bolt-on or a ‘nice to have’. Together, we explore what extra-Ordinary leadership really looks like when growth, culture and profit are genuinely aligned.
We talk candidly about why learning fails when it sits on the sidelines, how values become meaningless when they’re written about people instead of with them, and why the most powerful leadership development often happens without classrooms, PowerPoint or big budgets.
This conversation is for leaders who want to build organisations where people don’t just perform, but thrive.
You’ll hear us explore leadership through context, reflection, constraint, culture and courage – and why the work always starts with the leader themselves.
Inside This Episode
- What extra-Ordinary leadership really means in complex, multi-site organisations
- Why leaders must create conditions for growth, not control outcomes
- The danger of treating learning and development as a KPI or add-on
- How COOK embeds learning directly into business strategy and culture
- Why values fail when they’re written top-down instead of co-created
- The power of constraint: why small budgets often drive better leadership development
- Why reflection matters more than content in leadership growth
- How Gen Z is reshaping productivity, motivation and expectations of leadership
- Why learning doesn’t need classrooms to be effective
- The leadership lesson hidden in a cricket ball
Guest:
Sophie Bowen – Head of Learning & Development, COOK Trading Ltd
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophie-bowen?originalSubdomain=uk
Referenced concepts & resources:
COOK Trading Ltd: https://www.cookfood.net
Ikigai (Japanese concept of purpose): https://positivepsychology.com/ikigai/
My book:
The extra-Ordinary Leader
https://www.dollywaddell.com/store/p/the-extra-ordinary-leader
If this episode resonates and you’re rethinking how leadership, learning and culture show up in your organisation, do reach out. I’d love to continue the conversation.