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This is Wisconsin Sports On the Go with Trage, your home for everything. Wisconsin sports, now your host, trage. All that new intro just goes hard. I don't know what it is, but that trumpet in there, that goes hard there. That was fantastic. The new intro for the show here. Welcome in to Wisconsin Sports on the go with Tra trage. I'm your host, trage it is. It's a wednesday night, it's a wednesday night and it's well. The badgers lost, so we got to get into that tonight. Here. We got lots to do. I got badger talk to get to wisconsin women's basketball. I believe they got the win tonight against michigan there, but they're in the news for a not so good reason, so we're going to get into that tonight. I want to get to a little bit of Brewers. We got some Packers to get to. We got lots to get to tonight. Here on the show tonight, aaron's with me. Aaron, how we doing it's Wednesday. How we doing on this Wednesday dude.
Speaker 3:Chaotic week so far, I'm not gonna lie to you just chaos. Um, I'm trying to thrive under those, those conditions, but know we're taking it one day at a time. You know, just like football team right, just like the Packers they'd say you know we're trying to go 1-0. That's what I feel like every day of this week, but it's all right, could be worse. Not trying to sound like a Debbie Downer, it's just been a little too much. But yeah, I a break in the action.
Speaker 1:That's what we try to give everybody out there. We want to give people a source of sanity, right, get away from the bad stuff and get to some sports talk. That's what we want. That's what we want when we come on here is just to settle everybody down after that Badger game. Settle everybody down after what's going on in the world, settle everybody down like that's what we want to do. So that's what we want to do, so that's what we're going to do here. Uh, like we always say, you guys can find us across social media facebook, youtube, twitch, twitter, tiktok on twitter, twitch and tiktok find us there at wisco sports on the go and if you want to find us on facebook, on youtube that's wisconsin sports on the go with trade, and pretty soon here, starting february 12th, you can find us on 92.3 wosq. We're're going to start on Wednesdays there, 7 to 8. We're going to have a show on there, starting up here pretty soon. It's going to affect the live schedule. We won't be live on Wednesdays because we'll be on the radio. So we'll have that show for you on Wednesdays there on the radio instead of across the live platforms, not affecting the Sunday and Friday, just the middle of the week for now.
Speaker 1:But with that, aaron, let's get to it. Let's get into it. Today here I had one about Jackson Churio, because I was watching an MLB network. They were doing the top I believe it was the top right fielders or whatever they listed Jackson Churio as at that time and I just I wanted to talk about his adjustments that he made last year, because these numbers, aaron, are mind boggling for a 20 year old to go through this kind of stretch right. So through the first 54 games of the season, jackson Churrio was batting 209. His on-base percentage was 251. Slugging percentage 337. He had a WRC plus of 63, and his strikeout percentage was 27.2. Okay, that was through.2. Okay, that was through the first 54 games. Now let's look at the last 94,. Three, oh six. Batting average three 62 on base percentage is slugging went up to five, 25. His WRC plus went up to one 43. That was actually third best among current left fielders since June 8th at the time there, and his strikeout percentage dropped to 18.3. That's nuts. That's a 20-year-old through 54 games to be able to make those adjustments, those adjustments to.
Speaker 1:At one point, I mean, there was people talking about hey. I was one of them. I said, hey, maybe it's time we send them back down to AAA. Just let them get it figured out. Let them get it figured out, then bring them back up. You know, don't try to force it at the big league level. Pat Murphy, he was the opposite. Right, he's like let's let it go, he's got it, he's just got to settle down. And and it was a lot on the guys in the clubhouse too, right, freddy Peralta and William Contreras. Willie Adamas was huge. Right, that's what sucks to see Willie go is. Willie Adamas was huge in that too Getting him to the ballpark, getting him confident, keeping him up right, keeping him confident, keep him up the whole time there. And you saw the numbers just increase.
Speaker 1:This was a guy who just, I mean, took the punches right off the bat and then turned it around and when Christian Yelich went down, became the Brewers' most consistent you-wanted-that-guy-at-the-plate kind of guy. That's what he was. When Christian Yelich went down, it was like who's going to replace that production? Right, this was around that time where, in that first stint, when Yelich went down, where everybody was like, oh goodness, right, yelich went down, where everybody was like, oh goodness, right, yelich is bad in 300. How are we going to replace that? How are you going to replace that? Right now?
Speaker 1:Insert Jackson Churio. And he just took off. He saw that opening, he saw that gap and I was like this is my opportunity to step up. Help my guys, help my guys, I'll help the. You know the crowd, get the crowd riled up. That's what he did. Jackson Churio became that dude for the Brewers. I don't know, aaron, I just looked at those numbers. I'm like this is absolutely nuts, the way that this guy was able to produce at the plate for the Brewers, especially after that slow start. Some young guys are going to. You know, jackson Holiday. Look what he did. I mean, he kind of had the slow start and it just kept getting worse and it kept getting worse and it kept getting worse. Jackson Turio it got worse but then it got a whole lot better. He stuck to it, didn't give up, kept giving her every day, showed up early to the ballpark, got to work in and it showed. And I just love to see stats like that out of a young guy.
Speaker 3:No, absolutely. I mean sky's the limit, right, we're talking about, you know you bring up Jackson Holiday. You bring up Jackson Turio. Like these guys are like larger than life already, just like they're. They're, you know what they're supposed to be, right. And we, we're talking about cheerio here. Like the kid has like all the potential in the world, like had a grid season, you know, had a good season by any means, but, um, you expect them to just build on this. You know, maybe not right this next season, maybe stay around the same, but the sky, like I said, is the limit.
Speaker 3:You know he, he, he's one of those guys you can almost label like he could be a five-tool guy. I mean with the speed that he has. You know he has some pop in the bat. It's not like he's just a contact hitter. I mean he ends up with 21 home runs. You know there last year, so you know, legged out 29 doubles. Like you know everything you like to see, 29 doubles. Like you know everything you like to see. Like he he's a very promising player.
Speaker 3:It's just one of those things where it's like you know, as I don't see how he doesn't, you know, become a consistent player in the mlb. If you can do it this early now. I I you know going into second years is a little tough, only because now they have tape on you, like you know a lot, considerably more tape than they did last year. But you know, good players will make adjustments to that and I think he's a good player. So you know he might go through stretches where it's like, oh, here we go.
Speaker 3:But I mean he's so young, in the process Like the guy's wet behind the ears, for lack of a better term, and it's like, yeah, I mean you've got to love what he provides already. And and if he can just continue on this path, even through the ups and downs and and hey, baseball, you, you fail seven out of 10 times. You're, you're a hall of famer. I mean you know, if you can bat 300, that's the goal right. So like that's, that's the golden standard. So I I like a lot. I think I don't see why he doesn't continue on this trajectory going forward.
Speaker 1:I agree. I agree 100%, john. I see in the comments there we'll get to the Badgers. I don't want to jump around here too much around the Brewers right now. We'll get to the Badgers with that question there. But yeah, I agree, I loved looking at that stat because it shows a guy with a boatload of potential, but a guy who's not going to just quit, a guy who's not going to let it get him get rattled. Right, young guys, they get rattled. It kind of goes downhill fast. This was a guy. He didn't get rattled, he just stuck with it, stuck with the process and pat murphy stuck with him. The guy stuck with him. They stayed in his corner and it proved and it showed right there. Um, so I saw that hung Sung Kim got signed. Did you see that? I did. Who got him the Tampa?
Speaker 3:Bay Rays for like 29 mil. Yeah, yeah, exactly that.
Speaker 1:Where are the Brewers? Where are the Brewers on that deal? I don't get it. I really don't. That's a contract that screams Milwaukee Brewers. We have a little bit of money to spend. We're talking about replacing somebody in the infield, right? Somebody from second base over. We got to replace a position there, hong Sun Kim. He's right there, right there for the taking that contract. You could afford it every single day and twice on Sunday, and yet we just stay pat, right? Oh well, we'll make it work. Right, we'll make. What are you going to do now? Right? I mean something like Hung Sung Kim's gone, okay, so now what do we do? Go back to the drawing board, right? Oh well, yohan Mankata's still out there. You never know what you're going to get out of Yohan Mankata. Yes, I vouch for him.
Speaker 1:I didn't think Hong Sung Kim would sign for a deal that small. To be honest with you, I thought he'd make a little bit more money. This deal was nothing. This was, I mean, the Dodgers. Yes, they're ruining baseball. I've heard a lot of people asking that question Are the Dodgers ruining baseball? Yes, they are. They're ruining baseball. That is no doubt. I don't know, unless you're a Dodgers fan, how you do not believe that the Dodgers Yankees, those teams are ruining baseball. I don't like this is just getting ridiculous at that point, but it's just really ridiculous. And there's Dustin in the comments there. It's just not league minimum. Yeah, if if Hong Sun Kim was going for league minimum we would have signed them up, we would have loaded them up to the back half of the roster.
Speaker 1:I a video today. Somebody posted it. It was of Logan Morrison, because I saw Trevor Bauer goes. There's only about 20 hitters in the league that could hit me right now. 20 hitters in all baseball. That's what Trevor Bauer said. He's him and Shoei Otani is the best pitcher in baseball. And then Trevor Bauer's number two. That's what he said.
Speaker 1:And I was like, and then I saw it was I can't remember who posted, oh, it's grant grant bills. He's fantastic wisconsin guy grant bills. There he goes. Sal frelick would have put you in the mountain dew deck and I just laughed. And then I saw that's when I saw another person posted and they posted a video. It was, uh, trevor bauer's pitching and logan morrison. I don't know if you remember logan, but he took Trevor Bauer deep and I forgot that Logan Morrison played for the Brewers for a year. That was actually the last stop he had in the bigs, but he played for the Brewers for a year.
Speaker 1:That was at the same time that Justin Smoke also came to the Brewers and that was our first base combo Logan Morrison and Justin Smoke. That tells you how cheap we are. There you go. We had Logan Morrison and Justin smoke going back to back there at first base and then we gave up on those two and went some you know elsewhere with the first base duties there. But yes, I mean, it's, that contract was peanuts. And again, where are the brewers? Where outside of the Nestor Cortez trade. Devin Williams, basically right. Cortez trade. Devin williams, basically right, leaving.
Speaker 3:And we got nester cortez outside of that, what we haven't done, anything like I mean, if you consider just bringing reese on the. I mean that was more so his option, like he exercised, he just accepted his option.
Speaker 1:Like, if if you're a brewer fan or maybe in brewers management, did you want reese back? Like, honestly, after last season and now you're cheap, you're a cheap organization do you want to spend eight million or 18 million on reese hoskins? I I don't know if they wanted to, so like it was an option that I don't even know. If the brewers wanted I don't even know if they wanted him back. Me personally, I wanted him back because I think he's going to have a huge season next season. I think if there's a guy with drive, it's going to be him. I, if you're banking on woodruff coming back and Yelich getting healthy and all this other stuff and that's gonna fix it all. I just don't think the Brewers have enough ump to get over top. They have enough guys to get to the playoffs. I still think they're the best team in the NL Central. Like, don't get me wrong, I think they're the best team in the NL Central. The Cubs have done a lot to get better. They got Kyle Tucker. I think they've done a lot to get better. I think the Pirates are going to be a little bit better. I don't think they're going to be great. The Reds I think they're going to be a little bit better. They're not going to be great. The Cardinals, they're like a fire sale down there. You don't even know what they're doing right now. But the Cubs, I think they've done a little bit to get better, but I still think the Steelers it's like we talk about with all these good teams, right, all these teams that get to the playoffs. You can get there. But what the heck's the point of winning the NL Central 14 times over again if you get to the first round of the playoffs and you get dumped in a wild card against the number six seed? What the heck's the point when you lose to the Mets in your home stadium, when the Diamondbacks come to town and you get completely just kiboshed and you leave 16 guys in scoring position. What is the point? At some point you got to get over that hump. You have to do something to take yourself to the next level, otherwise you're just the Oakland A's, you're basically the White Sox. What are you doing? You're making the playoffs. Great, you made a little bit more money that year because you made the playoffs. You got the fans excited for a little bit. But if you can't get over that hump, what's the point, right? So Dustin said there I need the, need a vet in the clubhouse with Willie. God, I agree, I agree, and that's where I thought hung some Kim would be that kind of vet. He'd be that vet to come in. He's not old yet, but he would have been that vet to come in there, kind of settle down. I think Reese is going to be a big, big aspect in that too, along with Christian Yelich coming back there. I think he's also going to be one of them guys for you there. So I would agree there.
Speaker 1:We do have one across text in line too. Sounds like the NFC North. Yeah, yeah, it sounds like the NFC North this year. You get into the playoffs, you get to the wildcard round, you get dumped right. Zedaria Smith has got an NFC North title ring made up. Did you see that? You see that picture across Twitter there, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Zedaria oh man, oh man, I just laugh.
Speaker 3:I just laugh my thing with the whole Brewers, like, okay, because I equate them, like Cause, I equate them Like I think they're very similar to how the Orioles operate, like I just I look at those two franchises and it's, it's eerily similar. The thing is with both those teams, like if you're talking smaller market, like like Milwaukee there, why, if you're not going to go out with the free agent market, like we know, they're not going to be a massive player, right, they're not going to be the Yankees. Now the Mets have emerged as like a huge player, you know, obviously with the new ownership. But like when you think, because I don't think the Brewers have a bad farm system there, I just I don't know if it's like top five or top ten, you know looking there, but they have some guys down there and I know they hang on to them like crown jewels because they're not going to go out and get the big name players. But my thing is like, why not if? If you're, if you're kind of like licking the jar, right, you're, you're in the playoffs, you're, you're showing up, but then you get bounced. Showing up, get bounced, why not shoot some of these prospects out? Go get a guy at the trading deadline because you're not going to, you're not going to probably re-sign them.
Speaker 3:Like that's the thing, the brewers aren't going to spend the money to resign him and they're not going to go out in free agency and make a a massive move. I mean, maybe they make a lateral move and get a little bit better, but it's not like over. You're talking over the top and I mean, look at this Dodgers team. Like I don't even care about the Phillies or anybody else I mean the Mets to a certain extent but like you have to almost think, how do we get closer to the Dodgers? Because that is like I mean that's an all-star team. That is literally. And they just add and add and add and add Pitching. You know, lineup doesn't matter.
Speaker 3:So, like I said, if I'm the Brewers, I just don't get why. You know you have this window right now where the Cardinals are crappy, and that's what you like to see. If you're a Brewers fan, the Reds, I mean I like the fact they went and got Francona. I think that's a great move for that team, but they're still not. They don't have the pieces right now. So who knows? Like they're not, like the NL Central is one of the easier divisions right now, you know.
Speaker 3:So it's like why not just load it up, like, load your team up, try and compete with the big dogs, because you know you can probably overtake everybody for the division. We'll see how it shakes out, but I have confidence they can compete at the very least for the division. So why not roll the dice and kind of shoot some of these prospects out of your system to go get an established, whether it be a third baseman or whether it be a top-of-the-line starter, now, with Burns being out of there a couple years? Like you said, you don't know with Woodruff, you don't know with Yelich. Do you have enough? Do you have enough? And I would say no at this particular moment, unfortunately.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I would agree.
Speaker 1:And that's where we talked about Jefferson Cuero the other day, one of your top catching prospects in all baseball, topping your system there. What is your plan with William Contreras? Because if you're expecting him to stay long-term and you're going to sign him, which we hope, maybe they will right Spend the money If you're going to sign him up, jefferson Cuero's services not really needed. So find a trade package, right I mentioned the other day with the Phillies, right? The Phillies, jt Rilamuto is getting older. I don't know what their system looks like for prospects there, but Jefferson Cuero is probably a little bit better than what they got, especially because he's one of the top prospects in baseball. So you got to be looking around and say who's got pieces that we could use, maybe a third baseman, and what can we do with them there? So I'm looking at that there.
Speaker 1:Todd did have something in here. Todd said the Brewers pitching is very questionable. I would, that's yes, I would agree, because it's going to be very. It's going to hinge on what does Brandon Woodruff do? What does he look like when he comes back? You know, because right now we're banking on a lot of question marks. If you're the Brewers. Brandon Woodruff is he healthy when he comes back? Is he going to be ready to go? Tobias Myers we saw him. He was fantastic down the stretch. Are you going to get that again? Right? And then you think about the other guys that you got around. Freddie what's Freddie going to give you? Because we know Freddie's good for about a three-ish ERA there. Will it sit around that same mark?
Speaker 1:You look down the line there, nestor Cortez what is he going to bring to the Brewers? With the Yankees it was subpar at times. What are you going to get? Is he going to stay healthy? That's going to be a big question mark.
Speaker 1:The young guys, dl Hall what can you expect out of DL Hall? A lot of people hate him, some people like him. I don't know. Give you Aaron Ashby, you never know. I mean, you just have so many question marks up and down the rotation. I think the bullpen's fine, I like the bullpen. I like Trevor McGill. I'm your rebate is gonna come back out there. If he gives you what you had last year, I love it. Brian Hudson was a great find last year for the Brewers. Jared Koenig was great. Um, you look down the line there. You're gonna have Pions in there, you're gonna have Poguero. I think the bullpen is going to be fine.
Speaker 1:The rotation is where the question marks come in the Brewers. They find a way right. They always find a way At some point. I think finding a way is going to catch up to you. I think that's going to catch up to you. Jack Flaherty is still out there right now. I don't know what the market is for Jack Flaherty, but that's the top of the rotation kind of guy.
Speaker 1:That's a guy that can set you apart. You need guys that are going to set you apart because, if you think about it, you're not beating the Dodgers by loading your lineup up. Your lineup can do what they can do. You're not going to buy the bats to load up to be able to do that. What's going to be the missing piece? Right, the starting pitching. Can you limit what the Dodgers can do? I mean you're going to have young guys, right? I forgot Jacob Mizorowski too. He could be a potential guy to be in that rotation or in the bullpen. So it's going to be a hinge down. What can that starting rotation do for you? So I agree, todd, the pitching is very questionable. If you had to ask me, um.
Speaker 1:He also went on to say it is an easy division that makes the brewers look better than they actually are. That's a hundred percent. That's what we're saying. The Brewers are good enough right now to win the NL Central Beyond that. That's where our problem's coming right now.
Speaker 1:2018 was the best shot. That was the best shot. They took the Dodgers to game seven. Now it's like you get there, but you get the Braves. And then you had the Mets or the Diamondbacks. Then you had the Mets. You had the National Series in 2019, where the ball went through Trent Grisham's legs. Right, I mean, you just had year after year after year of division division. I mean it is wildcard rounds, divisional, it's just one and done, right, one and done. And it's like when are you going to get over that hump? So that's kind of oh yep.
Speaker 1:And Todd went on to say Gasser I forgot about Robert Gasser. When he comes back right and if he's, that's another question mark what does Robert Gasser bring you coming off of injury? There's so many guys. There's a lot of potential. I love the potential of the Brewers starting rotation. It's just a question of will that potential succeed? That's what we got to see there. And then we got the Red Shed Nice to see you in there.
Speaker 1:We haven't seen the Red Shed in here in a while. Fellas, here he goes, nice to see you in there. Red Shed, we got to get to a break. We're going to get to an ad break here. We're going to come back. Keep the questions coming in. I love your guys' questions so far and your comments there. Keep them flooding in here tonight, here on the show we're going. They sadly dropped the game there in Maryland. We got to get to that. Tonight we want to talk a little women's basketball, because there's a little bit of interesting stuff happening with the women's basketball team, so we want to get to that. We got some Packer talk to get to, so we got lots to get into. We will be right back after this quick.
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Speaker 1:Sweet gear indeed. You got to check them out there. We all got to get the swag, got to support us here on the show there. I did see an interesting fact. I saw it across twitter earlier today here from jordan uh lapnow is his name. There on twitter he said and this was the quote sparta, wisconsin. So sparta wisconsin boys basketball ended a 43 game losing streak against lacrosse central last night. So that was last night there. The previous win for sparta was all the way back in 2003.
Speaker 1:Wow, wow, I. I mean there's utter dominance of a team and then there's utter dominance of a team 43 straight games they dropped to lacrosse. I mean I just saw that stat. I was like wow, just wow. I did not know. I saw another one that in Minnesota you can play.
Speaker 1:Minnesota allows high school basketball players to participate in varsity basketball for six years, from 7th to 12th grade. I didn't know that. I did not know that. Around here you get in high school. You're in ninth grade, freshman year of high school. Ninth through 12th, that's your high school year. Seventh and eighth is more of a middle school, but in Minnesota it's allowed seventh through 12th there. So I saw the questions because somebody asked it and they said so, then try out as a freshman, jv and varsity teams. Or are there seventh and eighth graders on high school teams? And they said they can play on whatever team the coaches want, but no high school kids on eighth or seventh grade teams? I it's just weird, that's just odd to think about. What is it like in pennsylvania? Like, is it 9th through 12th?
Speaker 3:that's your high school yeah, that it's like just like yours, conventional, you know, night like they're you know what's going on in minnesota like, yeah, I can't say that that's probably not the, the, the overwhelming majority right and like, yeah, it was rare out here, you know, for a freshman to play on the.
Speaker 3:I mean you, we had guys like you know playing on on the varsity team as freshmen, but you know, that's like you're a stud, you're a studs. So like yeah, no, I, I, I didn't know that was a thing. I mean more, more power to the guy that can, can make it from the middle school, you know level, or middle school age. I should say to the, to the varsity high school team. That's, that's wild.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I would agree. Let's jump to the Badgers. I was going to wait, I was going to get to the women's, but I want to get to the Badgers here because we had a couple of comments on the Badgers here right away, so I want to get into that one. This is from, so we'll jump over to that game. Maryland over Wisconsin they're 76 to 68 was the final. There. The Badgers took a. They were down one going into half. John Blackwell, tonjay gotten to follow trouble there late in the half there About nine to go. Blackwell was out with two fouls there and then Tonjay went out about six and the Badgers struggled to find anything going into that half. Coming into second half there, that's when the floodgates opened for Maryland and the threes were falling and everything was getting crazy there. But I see the red shade in here and I want to get to his comments, worried about Blackwell. Nine assists to 15 turnovers in the last five games, total flip from his numbers during the winning streak.
Speaker 1:What helps the team more? Klesman regaining his form or Blackwell cleaning up his game? Wow, what helps the team more? Klesman's got to give me something. He's got to give me something. How many times are we going to draw an inbounds play for max klezman to fire up a three? That's what I mean. What hurt the badgers down the stretch there in that first half, without tanji, without blackwell? Good gandhi, where does chuck? It's max klezman chucking darts up at the rim and nothing's going. And it's like do something else. Like what are we drawing up here? Greg guard, call timeout, do something completely different than what's going on right now. It's just that end of the first half I thought was just terrible offensively for the badgers there.
Speaker 1:Um, I, I think blackwell is going to clean up his game. I think he's trying to do too much. I, I really do. I think blackwell at times tries to force the issue and he gets himself into problems. Right when I, when I watched the badgers tonight there and they were turning the basketball over, they were driving into double teams and they they realized on their penetration the double team was coming too late and when they realized it it was more of the oh crap moment than it was feeling the game. Right, you got to feel that. You got to feel. I always tell my boys, right, I coach young basketball. Right, but I always teach my boys dribble with a purpose, right, if you're going to dribble, if you're going to drive, if you're going to do everything, dribble with a purpose. When you go, you got to go right and when you go you got to have your path. You got to almost think ahead. What's going to happen right and that's where I think Blackwell is running into a lot of his problems is he's getting himself out of control and he's trying to do too much with the basketball.
Speaker 1:They're not working within the offense. I write down in my notes every single stinking game. It seems like get Crowell involved, get the big guys involved and it seems like they do at times and everything looks good. The offense starts to flow. We start utilizing the post. We're working through the post. They don't work through the post consistently. They don't work side to side, across both sides of the floor consistently. The ball sponge. It's like it sticks to the outer, it sticks to the perimeter at times, and when it sticks to the perimeter of the Badgers, they aren't that good of a team when it sticks to the perimeter. They are a good three-point shooting team when the ball works inside out, when they kick to shooters, when they find their shooters, when they stick that ball in the perimeter and they try to create shots. They're not as good of shot creators. I will tell you this now I love John Tonje. He's better on the catch and shoot. Everybody is, everybody is. Some guys can create shots. John Tonje can create shots, so can John Blackwell, max Klesman, when he's actually feeling it, can create shots. But they're better on the catch and shoot. And how do you utilize that? How do you get guys into rhythm in a game? Right, klezmit's a prime example. How do you get that guy into a rhythm? Catch and shoot, find him in an open shot. They don't do that consistently and that's where I think they get away from that kind of stuff. So that's a loaded up question there. What helps team more Klezmit regaining his form of Blackwell, cleaning up his game? I think it's gotta be a little bit of both. I think it does.
Speaker 1:In a game like it was tonight against Maryland, you needed Max Klezmit to find something when John Tonje and John Blackwell were out. When the Johns were out, you were like, okay, who's my scorer? Right, because you had Janicki on the floor, you had Gilmore, you had Crowell or Winter in there, you had McGee. Mcgee can score it. But you're like who is my main threat. Right, it's supposed to be Klezman and we've said it all along the Johns can score it going. Those are your two guys, but if they could find that third score, that third score that could do it consistently, this team would take it to another level. And that's Max Klezman. If he can find that consistency, this team takes it to another level there.
Speaker 1:John said turnovers and I agree First half turnovers were a problem. That's what we're talking about with the penetration, getting caught up in double teams there and everything in between. Ten turnovers for the Badgers and if you look back and you can look back at every loss for Wisconsin, it's ten-plus turnovers. Look at the game against Marquette ten-plus turnovers. This game, ten turnovers.
Speaker 1:You can't go on the road with an inconsistent shooting night where you're shooting 37% and turn the basketball over 10 times. You can't. You can't do it and you can't miss six free throws along with that. You just can't. Those are your can'ts. That you can't do on the road there. You can't allow so many offensive rebounds. Maryland had too many offensive rebounds in this game nine, and that was in that first half. There the Badgers would get stops and it would be an offensive rebound, a kick out to a three and it would be a can. And it was just like you were asking for it. You were asking for Maryland to hang around. You had opportunities. The Badgers had a lot of opportunities in that first half to extend that lead further than what it was, and they just left it hang. They just left it hang. They left it hang. They left the door open and Maryland was able to capitalize there. Red Shed went on to um red shit.
Speaker 1:When I take my take, klezman isn't going under screens like blackwell. We can win without klezman on offense, but we need him on d. We can't win with sloppy blackwell. Yeah, well, yes, yes, I would say yes, right, you can, you can, we've, they've won without klezman on offense. I will agree with that. But in a game like this, where blackwell and tanji are both in foul trouble, you can't win without klezman on offense. You need him to be somewhat of a threat. That's where I think wisconsin's going to run into. Issues is if they don't utilize the post. If crowl becomes a non-factor in a game and you just rely on john blackwell and john tanji, john tanji goes away.
Speaker 1:I don't know know if anybody else is noticing this right now, but it seems like in some of these games here, john Tonje just goes away. I don't know where he goes, I don't know what happens, but I'm going to put it on Greg Gard to find ways to get shooters open, because you can tell me, because this is going to be the guaranteed story that you'll get right. There is that. Well, they changed up the defensive scheme so John Tonje was covered up. All right, make the adjustment and change up the offensive scheme to get John Tonje open.
Speaker 1:He's your best shooter. He's your best shooter. I love John Blackwell, but I think Tonje's a better shooter from the outside. John Blackwell can get it I'm not saying he can't, but John Tonjay is better shooter from the outside. But you can have John Tonjay just completely go away in games. Yeah, he gets.
Speaker 1:I mean, look at the last game out there. He got hot right at the beginning and then he went through like a 12 minute spurt where he didn't even shoot the basketball. Where does he go? Right? And we're gonna get the story. Well, the defense turned it up on him. They were, they were closing him off. You got to find a way to get that son of a gun open. Then you got to find he is your star and when your star is getting covered up, you're gonna struggle, right, you're gonna struggle. And that's where I'm saying I would agree the red shit. I would agree with you that Klezment can just be a defender and a passer when the offense is working, when everybody else is out there and everything's churning and everything's great, right.
Speaker 1:But on a game, a day like today, when they were calling crappy fouls because I can go through all them fouls that they called and they were a lot of crap fouls that they were calling on the Badgers, I will agree, I heard a lot of crap fouls that they were calling on the Badgers, I will agree. I heard a lot of people complaining about it. I will agree, there was some crappy calls the one on Gilmore, the shooting foul they called. The one where Blackwell was driving and they called it on the ground and it was a shooting foul. Clearly, I mean they call a lot of crappy fouls, I will agree.
Speaker 1:But on a day like today when those two get into foul trouble, you need Klezman, he needs to step up, he needs to be the guy, and he wasn't and that's where you ran into your problems. He took a lot of shots, one for eight from the field and he's one for six from downtown, and a lot of those shots were late in that first half and he just couldn't find the rim. He couldn't find it. And it's not the fact that his shots are short or long, it's the fact that his shots are left or right. He's not there, he's not feeling it, his shot is something, something's wrong, something's wrong inside that shot. Right now I don't know what it is, but something's wrong in that shot.
Speaker 1:He missed two free throws early on in the game too. I mean, you look, he missed a layup point blank. He drove the lane, did everything right, got to the rim and he missed the layup. I mean, you look, take away, there was a missed layup by Klezmit later on in the game with like three to go. You take the John Tonje layup that he had at the rim and he missed it there late in the game. That's four points. Final score is 76-7. That would have been 76-72 right there. You missed six free throws. Blackwell missed two of them and then you watch Crowell missed one. Glesman missed those two early ones. There's your difference in your game. So normal this was.
Speaker 1:The Badgers had everything possibly that they could do wrong on the offensive end went wrong in this game for them. It all went wrong All at one time. I came out of this game I was like, yeah, maryland, they're a good team, they're a good team. I did not come out of this game thinking that Maryland is better than Wisconsin and I would love to argue with Maryland fans that would tell me that Maryland is better than Wisconsin. I will go through it again with you. They're not better than Wisconsin. They beat Wisconsin. I'll give you that. They beat Wisconsin. It was one of those kinds of games, right, but Wisconsin played their worst offensive game in this game.
Speaker 1:Layups, simple layups, free throws, the little things, the little things that Wisconsin has excelled at all season long, went wrong in this game. And once again, turnovers hurt. Turnovers hurt there. And then, yeah, kamari missed the bunny. He had that little bunny shot that he missed. There, too, kamari had a couple shots where he was going up and I mean unusual play from Kamari McGee in this.
Speaker 1:Well, that's what I'm saying. Like, wisconsin just played. This wasn't Wisconsin basketball, and this is where I'm going to go to that. The scary times, right, the scary times with Wisconsin basketball. This is where I get worried because consistently throughout the years, wisconsin gets to about end of January, february, right at the beginning of February, and everything is going just fine for the Badgers and there's 16 wins and they're going great. And then all of a sudden they just hit a wall and they can't get over the hump and they start dropping games left and right. Nobody knows what's happening right. Last year Nebraska Nebraska just like hurt the Badgers. I don't know what happened in Nebraska, but they hurt the Badgers. After that it went on a downhill tailspin. It's like what the heck?
Speaker 1:My biggest question, coming off of this game? Because you're not going back to the Kohl Center to play in your next matchup, you're going to Northwestern. You got to go back on the road to Northwestern and Northwestern's a good ball club. They're a good team. It's another hostile environment. My biggest question is do you answer the bell when you go to Northwestern? How do you respond to a game like this where you struggled mightily? John Tonje had 23 points. He had a decent night right and Steven Kral had 10 points. I believe Blackwell had 10 points. Outside of that, it was a struggling night and defensively that was going to be one of my points too. There I see the Red Shed said that Maryland shot 50% from three. That was going to be one of my points there.
Speaker 1:The Badgers their rotations are slow. They are slow to get out on shooters. They get caught ball watching a lot. They get caught ball watching, they overhelp. The other day against Nebraska, there was really good help. There was really good help side this rotationally helping and then getting out onto shooters.
Speaker 1:It was terrible. There was a lot of. Maryland had a lot of wide open shots and partially I mean the one late. The killer was when it was a 54 to 50 game and I believe Rice was the one who hit that three in transition. That was your killer and that was a missed layup. A missed layup right at the rim. Maryland was able to get out and run and be able to put it through the rim and that's your killers in basketball games.
Speaker 1:Right there, that was it. That was when I was like was like yeah, it's over, that's it. Badgers don't have enough. They don't have enough in the tank. They're not knocking out enough shots. The offense doesn't look like it's in rhythm, it just looks rough tonight. It's just this. This was a game where we all have to take a breath. We all have to relax. It wasn't the badgers night, everything that could go wrong. Turnovers three I mean nine for 27 from downtown. In this one they shot 15 for 21 from the free throw line, 22 for 59 from the floor. Everything that could go wrong went wrong for Wisconsin. The offense wasn't there. Defensively they struggled once again.
Speaker 1:And when you have a combo a bad offense, bad defense you don't get your free throws, you're going to lose basketball games, especially on the road, especially on the road, and it's in a place in Maryland where they haven't lost at all this season. You're going to lose basketball games. And when your two best players go out in the first half one with nine minutes to go and the other with about six minutes to go and you don't have guys step up, that's going to happen. I mean there was a lot of Kamari McGee on an inbounds pass, throws it into the guy's arms, gets it tossed, throws it into the guy's arms and then gets called for a foul On an inbounds pass. He's the one inbounding it. I mean just the silly mistakes, the mistakes that can't happen happened. So you just hope that you move on. You learn from this here and that's what you're going to get from it there.
Speaker 1:I didn't miss one. Um, I, the red shed, said I'm more concerned about the defense. Offensive slumps happen and I tap in black wall and under three screens that led to nine points. That's what we can't see. In March, I agree. After the first time going under a screen with Gillespie, I don't understand why you went underneath of it so many times. I don't. I don't.
Speaker 1:The Badgers, they don't learn from that. That's the problem. This is a year-after-year problem where we talk about going under screens on good shooters. They weren't looking to drive, they were looking to can it? This team in Maryland? Like I said, I came off this game. This is a good team in Maryland. I don't think they're a great team. I don't. I think the Badgers are a better team. I really do Watching it. Yes, maryland won, but if you give me that game nine times out of ten, I think the Badgers win it seven. I do. I think they win it seven times out of ten. I really do. I just. This is everything that could go wrong with wisconsin basketball right here, and it's just. Will it become a trend? Will it become a trend? That's what we want to avoid. So I mean, aaron, was there anything that you saw coming off this game that sticks out to you? I mean um that we didn't cover?
Speaker 3:not not a ton that we didn't already cover. I, I thought, you know, because I finally got to watch a game there for the first time in weeks for Wisconsin, I thought Nolan Winter was kind of getting bullied a good bit, like he just kind of looked like timid at the very least, like he just didn't, I don't know, he was kind of a, you know, a basket case to a certain degree, you know, in the post and stuff like that. I mean, I think your point on Max Klesman, that guy doesn't I'm not going to say he's garbage, I don't want to go that far. Yeah, no, he's shaky at best some nights, you know what I mean. This was a night where it was like he's just, it's like deer in headlights to me he's just kind of dribbling all over the place, he's just jacking up the shot. He just doesn't look like comfortable whatsoever and I think that's I think more so than anything for him. It's mental. I really do. I just watching him. He doesn't have that Like. Even when Tanjay has. You know, I've watched him in spurts. Where he doesn't have it, he looks like he, he, he looks like he knows he still has it. Where Klezman's like uh, I have it. You know he's like asking him, so he almost needs like reassurance, do I have it? You know, so that those are a couple things.
Speaker 3:I mean, like you said, big, big takeaways. I mean maryland started out this game not shooting well at all and then all of a sudden they just couldn't miss right. It was like wow, I just it was one of those. I mean that's gonna happen. Sometimes it's just like the start of this game, the trajectory of this game. I was like you know Wisconsin will probably pull this out and you know it might not be a pretty win but they'll pull it out.
Speaker 3:And then, like I said, I don't know Maryland, just they were banging everything from outside Like it. Just, I don't know, you're going to have nights like that. You know both ways. Like Wisconsin will have a night like that, the opposition will have a night like that. But yeah, I mean I just the offensive boards for for Maryland. Some of those were just in crucial, like moments where you could just continue to pile on momentum. I thought, and yeah, it was. I mean, like you said, all the things that could have went wrong and and it unfortunately did. But you know, maybe this is a huge wake up call to say, all right, boys like, let's get it together. I mean, you're not going to have solid shooting every night, but some of the things we need to fix, and we need to fix it before it turns into a trend, like you had said there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, I would agree, and we got to hit one more ad break here, but I wanted to hear. So I hope the red shed's still in here. I have a question. I have a question and I want to have an answer on the backside of this break here. I know we were talking about Max Klesman there and what our thoughts were on Max Klesman. Is it time that the Badgers think about maybe a guy like Kamari McGee coming into that starting spot and trying to take some of that pressure off of Max Klesman there? So hopefully the red shed is still in here. I want to hear his opinion on that one and I want to get our opinions on that one coming off the ad break. So we'll be right here after a quick ad break.
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Speaker 1:buy, sell, get out of that clunker. It's a new year, it's a new you. That's what you got to do, right, peggy Sue, down at century 21. I asked that question because we've watched a consistent struggle offensively for Max Klesman and I agree, defensively he has been better, he's been good defensively. And I look at him and I say to myself offensively he's not giving you much right. That's confidence-wise, whatever it is. I look at a guy like Kamari McGee. He's been great, fantastic. I don't even know what else I mean.
Speaker 1:Kamari McGee. He struggled tonight here against Maryland. There he had a struggling night two for eight from the field, one for three from downtown. But if we want to look season stats, kamari McGee is that guy. He has been that guy off the bench for the Badgers. Now why? I think it works for Wisconsin. What do we got here? He's got our plus minus with. So I'm guessing this is with Klezman on the floor. The Badgers were minus six with Kamari. They were minus 17 there on the game. Okay, just one game. You know tonight, if you're okay, kamari, they were minus 17 there on the game.
Speaker 3:Okay, just one game.
Speaker 1:Tonight. If you're we got to base it off the hole then because I don't. If we're basing stats off tonight, the only guy who deserves to play is John Tonje and maybe Steven Crowell, but that's about it. We can't just base off tonight. I want to go as completely as a whole as we can here. Kamari McGee gives you a spark defensively. That's what we're talking about. Like the red shirt said earlier, right Going with screens and everything, kamari McGee gives you a spark defensively. That I believe Max Klesman does currently too. What I mean is, I think Max Klesman still gives you the spark off the bench that you're looking for. He can come into games, he can play good defense, he can get after guys, he can still knock down shots.
Speaker 1:But sometimes a role change bringing a guy off a bench versus starting a guy it changes the mental focus, right. Sometimes it gives a little bit more drive. You want to get back into the starting rotation, you want to be the guy. It gives you a little bit more drive. Maybe it messes with his psyche the opposite way. I don't know Right, but at this very moment, who would you rather have in your starting five to end the game?
Speaker 1:You need buckets, right, you're in a tight battle. You're in a tight battle with, let's just say, michigan State Right, and you need buckets from everybody. Michigan State right, and you need buckets from everybody. You're not beating Michigan State with just John Blackwell and John Tonje and that's it. You need other guys. Michigan State's been fantastic this year and a lot of people are going to say, well, they've only played the bottom half of the Big Ten. They've still been good. So I look at a team like Michigan State who gives you the best, which five gives you the best shot at beating a good team? That's where I look and it's like, okay, I want to say Klesman, and I think Klesman could be the guy. But when I want offense, kamari McGee's been more consistent.
Speaker 1:When I need the guy, when I need a shot late in the game, right now, who are you taking? Taking max klesman, who's shooting 28 on the year. From downtown, I believe he's shooting 28, if I'm not mistaken. Last time I looked 28 from three and I. I don't want to knock on the guy because I love max klesman, I love, I love the attitude he brings. He's a fantastic dude like I. I don't want to knock on the guy, but when I look at shooting to shooting, when I look at offense to offense, kamari McGee's numbers blow Max Klezma's numbers out of the water right now. They do Kamari McGee's shooting. What a whopping. 55% from three on the season right now. And he's shooting 53% from the floor, 84% from the free throw line. He's getting two rebounds a game and two assists per game. Kamari McGee blows Max Klesman out of the water right now.
Speaker 1:So when I think of a guy, when I, when I'm looking at this rotation right now and I'm like who deserves more minutes at this moment, what's the when? When do you start to get concerned over Max Klesman? What's the when? When do you start to get concerned over max klesman? When do you start to say what is going to be my best rotation in march? Let's say we're in march, right now, right, and we need to have our best five on the floor to get us buckets. Would you want kamari mcgee sitting on the bench in that moment or would you want max klesman on the bench? Which one? Who would you want? Right, if max klesman is feeling it? Sure, if they're playing Marquette? Sure, because against Marquette he goes off. So if we could play Marquette every single game, the guy would average 30 points a game. I don't know what it is, it's just when he plays Marquette he goes off. Right now, maybe you don't start him, but you got to figure it out fast.
Speaker 1:In a game of Max Clesman's on or off Right I always used to lean forward with the Badgers. He would shoot like one or two threes and you could tell if he was on or off. A lean forward was not a guy where it was like he was going to miss the first two and hit the next five. It wasn't. He missed the first two, he was done. That was the day. Max Czman's around that same mark right now. If he's feeling it, he's feeling it, but if he's off, oh man, he's off. And then what are you supposed to have a guy pepper in the rim late in the first half because nobody else out there will shoot the basketball. So it's like what are you? What are you asking for there? Um, I don't even know how to pronounce that word fallacyacy, fallacy.
Speaker 1:Classic fallacy here. We'll call it the Devin Hester fallacy. You'll have to elaborate that one for me. Red Shep, we're kind of I'll use the word illiterate, I'll say I'm illiterate here. I don't know what that means.
Speaker 3:Maybe all or nothing Like type of.
Speaker 1:Ah, there you go, there you go, there you go, there you go. He elaborated Specialists don't always do better with more exposure. Corner three McGee is not shutting down their best scorer. He goes in when their best scorer is on the bench. I don't know about it. I'm going to agree to disagree. I'm going to agree to disagree with that one there.
Speaker 1:I don't think Max Klesman's shutting down their best shooter. To be honest with you, I don't. I really don't, not at this point. I don't. I don't think McGee's a good defender. And if you're telling me that you think McGee's not a good defender, I think McGee's a good defender. I think he can defend Right now. If you're telling me that Max Klesman, the reason why we have him on the floor, is strictly for defense and he's a liability on the offensive end, what does that do for me? It just gives more guys to watch John Tonji and more guys to watch John Blackwell, if Klesman's a liability. So if corner three McGee is just going to, if he's going to be able to knock down shots for me, cut to the rim and do those little things and make layups, sure I'll take it. I will take it Because at this point Max Klezma is missing point blank.
Speaker 1:He's missing point blank If we think that more exposure for Max Klezma right now is helping him. It's not. I thought maybe getting him more shots would help. He shot a lot tonight here. How'd that go? So I'm not saying that you're wrong, that more exposure for McGee is going to be the greatest thing in the world. I'm not saying that you're wrong, that that's going to be the key. I'm not saying it's going to be the key to putting McGee in there over Klezman. But what I'm saying is, at this point, max Klesman is a liability for me on the offensive end and that just puts more eyes on the Johns. It puts more eyes that we can double off of him and shut down Crowell in the post, because Crowell is going to get double team with Klesman's guy coming down. Guys can just rotate over.
Speaker 1:All they got to do is respect Tonje and Blackwell right now. You still got to respect Klezman, but until he starts knocking down shots what I mean Maryland was like eh right, but when Tonje got the ball, they were right up on him. When Blackwell got the ball, they were right up on him. When Klezman gets the ball, it's like yeah, well, you want to do some dance out there. Do some dance. We're going to stop you from driving to the rim, but after that, I mean you want to try to shoot a step back three. Shoot a step back three. There's no worry.
Speaker 1:I'm more worried about Nolan Winter shooting threes right now than I am not as a Badger fan. I'm not saying I'm more worried Like if I'm a defender. I'm more worried about Nolan winter shooting threes at this point than I am about Max Glesman, and I think that's the problem. So I don't know, like you said, if McGee getting in there more is going to help or if it's going to be the key. But at this point I don't know what it hurts. I don't and actually honestly don't know what it hurts. I don't and actually honestly, I don't know if you're going to like this or not, but it gives Blackwell off the ball guard capabilities. Then it allows Blackwell to work off the ball. It allows McGee to bring the basketball down the floor, be your true point guard, and it allows Blackwell to work off ball and maybe get more shots off the ball, because the turnover problem that we're talking about right now.
Speaker 1:You're putting a lot of pressure on a guy in Blackwell as a sophomore right now who's never really played outside of high school, played true point guard. He hasn't played true point guard at the college level until this season. You're putting a lot of pressure on that guy. Mcgee could take that pressure off by being the guard, being your true point guard, and letting Tonje and Blackwell be your off guard. Your your wings. Just let them be the wings. Those are two dynamic wings that you got there that can score it from three levels and can do it all. I wouldn't hate that. I wouldn't hate that at all. I think it brings a different dynamic in there. So I mean, we'll see.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying it's going to be the key, like I said, not saying it's going to be the key, but it's a thought. It's definitely a thought there and it's something that's crossed my mind before, because, klezmit, this has been we're what 21 games into the season. Now we asked at the 10 game mark if we should start to worry. We're like, nah, nah, he'll start to figure it out. When do you start to worry? When do you start to worry? When do you start to get to that point where you're like crap, crap, what are we going to do, right, what are we going to do there.
Speaker 1:So Badgers dropped this one to Maryland 76 to 68. There I mean, we're not going to lose. We're not going to lose our minds. Right, we're okay, badgers are okay. It's going to be a big test. Now they have Northwestern coming up next year. That's going to be a big test.
Speaker 1:How do the Badgers bounce back? I think that's going to be the true testament from past years to this year. What is the difference in resiliency of this team versus past years? Can they get over that hump? Get this next one here at Northwestern, because Northwestern, though the record doesn't show it, that's still a talented ball club. Bartonelli's still there, leigh's still there. They got good pieces Bartonelli. They have Barnheiser. They have good pieces across the board there. So this Northwestern game is going to be a tough one there.
Speaker 1:That'll be coming up. I believe that's on Saturday, saturday 1 o'clock game there on FS1. So we'll see that game is going to be coming up at the Welsh Ryan Center. So we'll get more to that game. On Friday here on the show we'll preview that game. Get more into it. We ran long today on the Badgers so we had lots to get into today, but we're not even going to get into it here today, but I want to leave a question with everybody. We're going to get out of here right after this.
Speaker 1:I want to leave a question with everybody and this is going to be our opening topic on Friday on the show. So my question is how close are the Green Bay Packers to the top teams in the league? How close are the Green Bay Packers to the top teams in the league? Now, this is what I'm going to ask. This is what I'm going to ask. This is going to be the criteria. Are they in the league? Now, this is what I'm going to ask. This is what I'm going to ask. This is going to be the criteria. Are they in the same city? Are they in the same county? Are they in the same state? Are they even on the continent? Where are they? We'll say country, we'll go country next, city, state. What did I say? City, county, state, country, country? Yeah, where are they in ranking wise right now compared to the rest of the league?
Speaker 1:I want to get more into the Packers on Friday here, because we got last get into right. Free agency is right around the corner there. We want to talk about trades. We want to talk about some of the Packers free agents who we'd bring back, who we're going to let go. The Reese's senior bowl is going on right now. Maybe we'll see some hear some rumblings out of there. Right, brian Gutekinds is talking with some of the Raiders executives there, so people are starting to get a little, a little anxious to see maybe Max Crosby or some of these other names coming across the board there. So, aaron, before we get out of here, is there anything else you got to say to wrap us up here for the night?
Speaker 3:I don't, I don't really think so. Um you know, a couple weeks I mean you know, week off of nfl will be weird I will say that, um you know, no college football, no nfl this weekend. But I'm not complaining, I mean, it's well, maybe it's the pro bowl right yeah, the pro bowl if you consider that the pro bowl games right the flag? Two-hand touch church league Dodgeball and whatever else. I don't even know it's something.
Speaker 1:It's odd. Who knows, somebody's going to be there. I think Caleb Williams is the starting quarterback for the NFC, because everybody else dropped out. I don't know. I have no idea what's happening.
Speaker 3:I'll ask you this real quick. I know we already ran late so we're already kind of screwed, but do you look at a guy at the end of his career? Do you look at Pro Bowls? As far as does that carry a lot of weight to you?
Speaker 1:Not anymore.
Speaker 2:That's where I'm at.
Speaker 3:It's weird Just the fact that I know Mahomes didn't have a great year, but to not have him in the how much significant is a Pro Bowl selection anymore?
Speaker 1:It doesn't mean as much to me anymore.
Speaker 1:No, they changed the game to this flag football bullhooking crap. What is the offensive line? I don't know. It's so odd to look back and see guys actually Jeff Saturday is coming onto the AFC side and snapping it to Peyton Manning one last time, like to see those videos of an actual football game. And now we're watching flag football and guys don't even want to go Right. I mean, look who would be your. They'd have to be in there, like Joe Burrows of the world and stuff like that. And they're like I'm not playing. Like this is just this is nothing. Why, like this is just this is nothing, why would I play?
Speaker 3:I think eventually they go away from it and do like. I don't know if it's like a consolation bracket, where it's I don't something different it has to. This is not the move I don't think for for this event. Whatever they want, it's not even a game anymore, it's just a bunch of random. I don't even know what it is.
Speaker 1:I think you could honestly get away with not having to fight football and just having a skill competition, and people would watch. I think the skill competition is cool. Like I don't hate the skill competition, it's like the NBA skill competition wasn't terrible, it's just when you get the all-star game it's absolutely like atrocious, like just terrible. Maybe for the MLB they should do a skills competition. That would be cool. Watch like your outfielders who can throw the furthest, who can just rip one, who's got the best accuracy from the center field fence or something wild. And then you've got pitchers out there who can put it through a pinhole. I mean just some weird things you can do with different pitchers, hitters, whatever. Just to see some of the talents. I think that would be cool. Hit a target, that would whatever. Just to see some of the talents.
Speaker 3:Like I think that'd be cool. Like no, I hit the target. Like that'd be cool. I absolutely love that. I just know that they're gonna be so scared of injury like because guys will like if you're talking, who can throw the far like. I love that idea in theory.
Speaker 3:I just trevor bauer, they throw that baby over top of the center field fence and I want to see who can throw it like furthest from the outfield to like just forever long, Like remember Yasiel Puig would throw it from like the wall, like one hopper from the wall, like from the war oh, joanna, cespedes that was.
Speaker 1:Joanna Cespedes had the gun and a half there of an arm. So, aaron, we got to get the hay out of here. We got to get the hay out of here. We ran long tonight. Here you can find us across social media Facebook, youtube, twitch, twitter, tiktok. You can find us on Twitter, twitch and TikTok Just search Wisconsin or Wisco Sports on the go, and on Facebook and YouTube find us there. Wisconsin Sports on the go with Trage and coming up on February 12th. You can find us on 92.3 WOSQ here in Central Wisconsin. You can find us on there on Wednesday nights from 7-8. There. We'll have our show on there. So with that, for Aaron and myself, this has been Wisconsin Sports on the go with Trage. Thank you all for tuning in. We'll catch you guys back here on Friday, but until then, see ya.