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From Badger Men’s Portal to Packers' Draft Hopes and Brewers Rocky Start: Wisconsin Sports Roundup
how we doing everybody and welcome into wisconsin sports on the go with trage. I'm your host, trage, it is april. Goodness, it is april 2nd. I cannot believe it is already april. We got snow. We still have snow. I mean, we had snow just this last weekend falling. I was like what is going? We had rain, then ice and snow. We had it all in one day and then we have more snow coming this week. They're talking. It's just I can't handle it.
Speaker 1:Whatever at this point, and then it melts and we get more, and it melts and we get more. It's like when can it ever end? We didn't have snow for Christmas but we're going to have snow in April. So that's okay right there. But hey, baseball's back, I don't know Like it's. It's here like we're watching, but when we really watch it I don't know. We're hoping that they stayed down. They might be still in Arizona, we don't know at this point. So I mean, hey, we got last, gets you today. We want to talk about that. This Brewers, whatever we're watching right now, we want to talk about that. We Packers talk to get to Brian Gutekinds out there, out there at the owners meeting right now. So we want to talk about the Packers a little bit here today. We want to talk Badgers a little bit of bad news for some, maybe good news for others who didn't care, I don't know. So we got Badgers talk about today. We got lots to talk about.
Speaker 2:Aaron, how we doing it's Wednesday, it's April, how we doing on this Wednesday yeah, I mean, you know me man, I kind of live for the baseball season to start and an opening day to me is like I mean you can't beat it with a stick, so I'm happy about it. Like you said, I mean we'll definitely touch on the Brewers here at some point during the episode, which, unfortunately, is just the start they've had. But yeah, I'm doing well and, like I said, it's just I'm so glad baseball is back. There's already a lot of controversy, which I don't know if it's good or bad, but I guess people are talking about baseball, so I guess that's a good thing.
Speaker 1:Well, that's because they're like over March Madness already, because it's all chalk, everybody's ticked off because it's chalk and March Madness, I don't know. It's like there's a fine line. You know some people are like well, you want the best teams. Yeah, you want the best teams, but I don't always want the best teams. I don't. I don't want Duke. I got to be honest with you. I have rooted against Duke in every single game that they've played.
Speaker 1:I dislike Duke. I don't care if Duke's there. Everybody's like Duke's the greatest team down there. I don't care if they lose, I don't care, I would get over it. I don't need Duke to be there for me to feel good about myself. Florida I'm good with them. Auburn I like Bruce Pearl, I. Houston, I, there's nothing I hate about Houston. I, I, that is not a team that you can dislike.
Speaker 1:Calvin Sampson's fantastic LJ Cryer, I love him, uh, but Duke, I just I'm over that. I, I am. I gotta be honest with you. It is exhausting. It is the other night and I know like I'm not I. I hate to like be this guy. But I know Cooper Flagg's a great player. Like, don't get me wrong, he's a great player. He is, he's a great player. He's going to be an NBA talent.
Speaker 1:Like, don't get me wrong, I respect the talent, but the other night he did not win that game for them against Bama. He didn't win that game. Con Canupo had a great game, so did Proctor, but the headline that I had to read. I told my wife we're going to go to bed and I shut it off. There was like six minutes ago, you know, officiating was going one way and I was irritated. Right, it probably wasn't, but it was. You know, duke was winning. So I was irritated already and we're going to bed. I was like I guarantee you the headline's going to read Cooper Flagg leads Duke or in some way, shape or form, cooper Flagg and Duke get passed. Yep, he didn't even have that great of a game. I think he shot six for 16 on the game. He wasn't even leading the score. I think he was third or fourth on the team and he was the guy. He was the guy apparently. Let him pass him and have passed him, and I was like, okay, after that I was like I'm exhausted. I just get exhausted by that crap because you would think as much as espn and all these analysts from espn and that they, they love to just get after one guy, one guy and it's like but did john tonjay not play basketball? Because through?
Speaker 1:I know wisconsin lost in the second round of the tournament. I know badger fans are like oh, what are you talking about? John Tonje had 52 points through the two rounds of the NCAA tournament. He led all players going through two rounds. Imagine, if Wisconsin won, what he could have done going forward. Right, he was hot in that tournament. He had 52 points. He led all scorers going into that. Technically, what would have been the Sweet 16. Nobody's talking about that. Nobody cared. Wisconsin was Wisconsin. Wisconsin was Wisconsin all season long. It didn't matter.
Speaker 1:We were all up in this. Oh, cooper Flagg, we're all up in that. Sometimes we even forget Jani Broome's in there. Jani Broome's fantastic for Auburn, lj Cryer's fantastic for Houston. Down there, walter Clayton's doing magic with Florida right now. But yet we're like oh Duke, oh Cooper Flagg. I feel bad for Khan Kanupal and he's on the team and it's like Khan Kanupal gets, oh, he's in a shadow Because, oh well, he's on the team. Khan Kanupal's fantastic and that's, I know, a little rant there to start off the show, but I just it's driving me absolutely bonkers this past week Just driving me bonkers there. So that's just something I had to get off of the chest there to start the show here. But you know, off of March Madness now, off of March Madness.
Speaker 1:Back over to the baseball side of things. You were talking about some controversy. Well, we're going to get into the Brewers a little bit later on in the show here. But the controversy, a lot of it, started with the Yankees Because of this new torpedo bat. It's the newest thing. It's the newest thing. You know. They take a little bit of wood and they move it from the label and they move it back to the sweet spot. They want to give more wood where you're going to make contact with the ball. Essentially what it is and the rule for a bat. So I want to know what the rule was. Right, I had to see what the rule was for a bat, so I was checking it out. The bat shall be a smooth, round stick not more than 2.61 inches in diameter at the thickest part and not more than 42 inches in length. The bat shall be one piece of solid wood.
Speaker 1:Everything that I've heard and this sucks, because I really wanted it to be illegal Like that was my goal, it's this whole thing, everything that I've heard that this bat is legal and from what I've actually heard, you know I was like 2.61 inches. You know I was like, oh, most bats must be that they must be close to that diameter. No, like they're not. They're not usually close to that diameter. The yankees bat, the new one, the torpedo bat, not the yankees bat, it's actually, you know, around baseball now the twins have some.
Speaker 1:We saw the oreos we were talking about here before the show. The oreos are dabbling in them a little bit. There's a couple different. I think the guy from the rays had it. He was using it there. So I mean, there's people using these bats. It's not just the yankees and it's not all the yankees. That's the thing is everybody's like, oh, the yankees are using this new bat, so they hit nine home runs in that game against the brewers and it's like, no, only two guys, jess chisholm and volpe, are the only ones from the yankees using this bat. Aaron judge has not swung this bat yet. He uses his regular stick, and just I mean it's tank, so it's like you know what?
Speaker 1:what am I supposed to? You know, it's not. What does he do if he gets that his hands on that bat? I watch out, right, because that ball is just gonna fly there. But I mean, there's nothing illegal about this bat, it's a legal bat. So I mean, aaron, I mean, what are your thoughts? It's, it's an odd, it's an odd thing, it's an odd bat. And I, what are your thoughts on what's been going? I mean, this is the hot topic right now in baseball it?
Speaker 2:no, it absolutely is. And to get off on like the, the baseball season, like you said, like on a quote-unquote controversy is, it's interesting, right, because baseball's been plagued with controversies over the years. You know, you talk about the black socks, you talk about the steroid air, like you name it, like baseball's been through strikes, you know everything under the sun. But I mean, like you said, unfortunately I mean I'm a huge Yankee hater. To be honest with you About the only thing I can tolerate is Judge and their broadcast crew is like top notch in my opinion. But outside of that I just it's hard to tolerate them. But I mean I don't want to say tip my cap, but like they, this guy right that developed this bat or engineered like, helped engineer this bat, I mean they're doing something that's working for them. Especially, I've heard it a lot I think, honestly, this bat was probably designed by Volpe or for Volpe to begin with, just because that guy got jammed like every other at bat Guy was getting jammed on inside pitches, popping the ball straight up. So now, with this torpedo style, you're getting almost like a larger sweet spot, if you will, or just more opportunity to hit the ball on a part of the bat. That's not per se, like you know, going to pop you up, like it gives you a chance to kind of launch the ball more with this design.
Speaker 2:I mean, I, I, if it's legal, it's legal right, like you said, there's a guy on the twins dabbling in it, like I, like you also said, you know, I think the Orioles were using it in spring training I'm not sure if they have yet on in the regular season, but I mean anybody can use it then. That's the thing. It's not. It's not like. This is a.
Speaker 2:If this was patented by the yankees or something, I would have a huge problem with that where it's like they have a massive advantage over the, over the brewers, over the red socks, over whoever, um, but like you know, if, if this is what baseball is going to and it's in the legal parameters, I don't see a huge problem with it and I think baseball probably loves it if it does result in more home runs, because it's going to drive more eyeballs to the sport and, like we've seen, not to say like you said, judge, you know, hasn't used it, but like we've seen, a I just I look over baseball, you know, as a whole, and I'm like man, the ball is just.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it's because it's kind of warmer right now in a lot of these places than it normally is this time of year. It feels like, but man, it feels like the ball is flying out of just every ballpark. It's just so I don't have a problem with it, it's just I it looks strange and and like I hope other teams can capitalize on it, like the Yankees you, like the Yankees have with, because I mean, chisholm can hit home runs and Volpe hits some home runs, but it seems like it's just, I don't know, it's in excess right now.
Speaker 1:I would agree, and I did see I think Cody Bellinger has swung the bat, paul Goldschmidt, austin Wells. So some of the Yankees also using that torpedo bat in spring training, et cetera there. But I was looking. I just saw another thing about it. They said it was in an article by MLBcom. They said Giancarlo Stanton attributed his elbow injuries to bad adjustments made during the 2024 season, but declined to offer further specifics on that. Jason Dominguez, an outfielder for the Yankees, said that Stanton was one of the players using the bats. So using one of the torpedo bats so interesting. So, stanton, I was cause. That's what my big thing was. It's like everything has a flaw right. I'm like I want to know what, and I was asking all over Twitter and nobody could give me a stinking answer on it. But I was like I want to know what's the flaw right? What's the flaw of this bat? What's the flaw right? What's the flaw of this bat? There's gotta be something that I'm missing, because you can't just nothing's perfect. There's gotta be a flaw to this bat. Now I hear that Stanton had some elbow injuries. He like he you know struggled with in 2024 was attributed to bat adjustments. Did that have to do with torpedo bat. Will we see guys who are swinging a different style of bat, who aren't used to that style of bat? You know switching it up like that. Will we see guys who are swinging a different style of bat, who aren't used to that style of bat? You know switching it up like that. Will we see guys like that, you know, get injured? I, I don't know, maybe it's just a freak thing with you know, john carlos stan. He seems to get hurt in every which way. I don't pray for injury for anybody, but it seems like john carlos stan's always hurt. So like I don't know if that's the big thing, but I mean, I don't know it's. It's definitely an interesting thing. I don't hate it and, like I said, reese Hoskins I think I said, but either way, if I didn't, reese Hoskins did order a bat too, so Reese Hoskins has got one on the way to him. So it's like the Brewers are getting them now. It's not the Yankees didn't beat the Brewers because they're using torpedo bats. If you believe that the Yankees beat the Brewers because they're using torpedo bats, then you don't. I don't know what to say. Like it's not, they're using illegal bats to beat you. Now, if you want to.
Speaker 1:I think Aaron Judge should be ROID tested Like if you want to test him for anything. Eric Thames I got to tell you this, I don't care, maybe he's not using ROIDs, I pray was just suspended there for the Braves. I don't want to see guys get suspended, but Eric Thames went on that tear in 2017, 2018 there against the Reds, where he just hit home run night after night after night and he got drug tested. I mean, after every game. They were going for steroid tests after every single game.
Speaker 1:Where's Aaron Judges? Like, honestly, sometimes it's just like test these other guys. I don't understand. You get a guy like eric thames where he just comes in and he starts just raking and everybody's like, oh well, it's just well, how is he doing it right? But then you have a guy like eric judge. It's like, oh well, that's just, that's normal, that's normal. Let's just let this guy go.
Speaker 1:Sometimes, like I've said before, with otani and and some other stuff, the MLB kind of like hush, hush, look away. Where these other guys, like Pro Far there with the Braves, it's like he ain't nothing. He ain't nothing Like Pro Far ain't going to ruin the game if he's out, so like, whatever, we'll check him. But why would we go check Aaron Judge or Otani? I'm not saying that any of these guys do it. I just think that the MLB, nba, nfl, all those big corporations, they look in one direction. They don't look at the rest of them. They don't look at the rest of them, they don't look at LeBron, but they'll go look at this low-name guy because he ain't nothing. So it's like I don't know, maybe just drug test, maybe just drug test. Aaron Judge, I don't know. That's the Hurt Brewer fan. That's a Hurt Brewer fan right there.
Speaker 1:But hey we got more to get to tonight here. We got Packers, we got Badgers. I don't know what we're going to get to. We're going to get to one of them on the back side of this break here, so we'll be right back here after this commercial break. Welcome back in to Wisconsin Sports on the go with Trage. I'm your host, trage. We're coming back.
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Speaker 1:So we went into the break we talked about torpedo bats. We're all up in torpedo bats and why we think that duke is exhausting. Because if you think duke's not exhausting, well, go to go, go away. Done with you, done with you there, done with you. But I want to talk about what the heck is happening in college basketball, because we kind of touched on it. Right, we're talking about March Madness and you know everything like that.
Speaker 1:But the Badgers had I don't know if you're going to call this troubling news, right, we're going to call it troubling news, kind of troubling news Daniel Freetag, the former four-star point guard coming into Wisconsin, the highest-ranked point guard that Greg Gard has had in his recruiting time there in Madison. He's hit the transfer portal and it kind of I don't know, it kind of came as a shock. I'm going to be honest with you because you know when, you know you looked at it with Chucky Hepburn when he was going to be there. You, you're like Free Tag's not going to start at point guard because Chucky's going to be there. Then Chucky decides, hey, I'm going to transfer out. Okay, that opens up the door for a little bit more of that, daniel Free Tag.
Speaker 1:But then it's like, okay, I look at the veterans in the room John Blackwell, kamari McGee, max Klesman, jack Janicki really stepped into his own. You had John Tonje come in and just light the world on fire, right? Nobody knew what John Tonje was going to be until he stepped on the floor in Madison. So you looked at all those guys and you're like, okay, where was Daniel Freetag going to play? Because he had a lot of veterans in front of him. He just kept sliding down the depth chart, sliding down the depth chart to the point where he really wasn't going to play.
Speaker 1:So, according to and I looked at a report, this was this was the report from Michael McCleary over there on Twitter as a quote from from Daniel Freetag after the NCAA tournament and he said he wanted to come back if Wisconsin wanted him back. That was interesting because it's like okay, so from the sounds of it, after the BYU game, we're looking at it like, all right, he wants to come back. But then he had a meeting with greg guard when he got back and now we've come to the conclusion of daniel free tag is currently leaving wisconsin did guard like and this is my question now, so this is gonna be my question is not really, it's an open-ended question, I guess because nobody has the answer right, maybe guard didn't believe that he would have a huge role? Right, because he Because he's like you know, from what we saw, what we understood he wasn't ready. He wasn't ready to go. He was a four-star recruit who had a ton of upside, but he wasn't ready to play at the college level.
Speaker 1:So Greg Gard wasn't even going to throw him out there. Right? Greg Gard learned underneath Bo Ryan. He coached with Bo Ryan. Bo Ryan didn't throw a freshman out there. Greg Gard learned underneath Bo Ryan. He coached with Bo Ryan. Bo Ryan didn't throw a freshman out there. Greg Gard has been a little more prone to throw a freshman out there, but he's not going to throw a guy out there if he's not ready.
Speaker 1:Greg Gard did not believe that he I don't think that he believed that he was ready. So my question then would be did Greg Gard believe that he was even ready to go next year? I don't think he had a guarantee. I think that was the thing. I think you know. He didn't guarantee him anything going into last season, but I don't think there was a guarantee even moving forward now.
Speaker 1:And I think that's where they kind of hit this little crossroad with each other. It was like you know, daniel, and this is how you imagine it. It's like you know, daniel, you have a lot of talent, you have a lot of upside, but I don't know what you are yet. I don't know if you've developed enough Now with enough work in the offseason, this next offseason here, leading into the fall, leading into the next season here, maybe, right, maybe, but I'm not guaranteeing anything. Well, daniel Freetag's sitting there and he's like well, why would I stay If you're not guaranteeing me anything? If I could just get buried on the depth chart again, why would I stay for that? So you want to hate on the guy, and it is a kind of weird one, because Daniel Freitag was kind of different, right, he was kind of.
Speaker 1:I still remember the meme that Daniel Freitag posted up on Twitter there where he's like the doctors told me not to post anything where I was on drugs or something like that. But he's like you know, guard, I miss you. Like Greg guard, I miss you. And like he was a big, like he loved Wisconsin. He loved Greg guard, he loved everything about it. But then I look at his you know, going away, whatever you would call it, what you would call it, his going away speech, or his text out to the public or whatever you want to call it there, I don't know what that you'd call it your. That's farewell, basically your farewell speech to Wisconsin fans there.
Speaker 1:And he didn't thank the coaches and Jack Chenecky. I thought that was weird. I thought that was extremely weird. He thanked every other guard except for Jack Chenecky. I just had it, so I have it up here. He said a special thank you to the guards who took me under their wing cameron hunter, john blackwell, john tonjay, max klezman, kamari mcgee but not jack. Jack chenicki he was a guard too, like he was there. I know he's young yet, but he was there and it's like no thank you to Jag, to Nicky, but there was no thank you. There was a thank you to the fans, there was a thank you to, you know, the players, like I said, his teammates. But no Greg Gard, no Joe Kravinoff, no Kirk Penny, nothing. I think they irritated him. They got to him. I think he was one of those guys who believed that he should play and he wasn't and he got upset and he's gone. So that's kind of the.
Speaker 1:The sad reality now of college basketball is that if you the thing and this is the greatest quote that I ever heard from Tom Izzo and I don't I love Tom Izzo and I hate Tom Izzo at the same time. It's a love-hate relationship between me and Tom Izzo. I respect him but at the same time he irritates the crap out of me Mostly because he's you know, he's a good coach, right, he's a good coach Coach is against Wisconsin. That's why, you know, irritates me. But Tom Izzo said anymore, because when they fail they can just leave. They don't have to experience failure anymore, they can just walk out the door. They don't have to experience developing. All these guys, wisconsin guys Frank Kaminsky, sam Deckard I know Deckard played a little bit early, but Ben Brust and Josh Gosser and all these Wisconsin greats over the years they took their time to get starting, to get time to play, to work their way up. They built through the years.
Speaker 1:Now it's like and I know it's different, it's a different landscape now in college basketball. The transfer portal is crazy, but now it's like your guys don't have to learn how to fail. Daniel Freetag doesn't have to fail and I know he just posted his practice highlight. He's such a doorknob this is. This is how much he's irritating.
Speaker 1:Now. He just put his freshman year practice highlights on twitter like that's, that's what he did now. So basically I think that was like one of them, like knife stab kind of things, where he's like here's my highlight tip because I didn't play, like that's basically what he's trying to show there. Um, so I was just like that's just stupid. But I mean that's, it's the, it's the hard.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you call it the hard reality of college basketball now, but it's I don't like it. I honestly don't like it because it's like your, your guys don't learn how to fail. They don't get kids college players. I know they're not kids anymore. I get that. I know they're not kids anymore. I get that. Whatever you want to call them, but they don't learn how to fail and that's life. Life is failure.
Speaker 1:Like you, look at Rick Pitino, like listening to him talk to the St John's guys and I don't have the whole quote up right now for when he was jacking them up in that locker room, I mean just, but I don't know if anybody's heard that speech there, but like that was the greatest speech I've ever heard a coach give. He got me fired up sitting there watching him on TikTok. I was like this dude can coach and I loved it. I was like I hope that Greg Gard can go in the locker room and jack these guys up, just like Rick Pitino can. I probably can't, but that speech was awesome and it said you guys have to learn how to fail.
Speaker 1:Failure is life, dude, you guys. And basically you know the quote goes on and whatever. But that's where I'm at with this whole thing is that these guys don't fail anymore. They just leave. They just oh, we lost. Oh, I'll see you later, right? That's the same reason why I can't remember Miami's coach. Um, uh, what the heck? Uh, miami's men's basketball coach, oh, larenaga, larenaga, that's his name there. I think something like that. Laranega, I think it is something like that, his old, their old coach down there. Shoot, yes, laranega, I think it is. But either way, aaron's going to find it for me.
Speaker 2:Yep, Jim Laranega.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's exactly why he left. Because he said in his speech when he was leaving he said after we went to the Final Four, I had eight guys tell me they're leaving. Eight guys, we just went to the final four, how much further do you like we didn't make it to the national championship? I'm sorry, but we just went to the final four and I have eight guys tell me, yeah, coach, we're out. So you lost, so you're done.
Speaker 1:Like you don't want to come back and try to run this baby back, like I don't know what it takes anymore, like if I, if I'm like a badger player from this season here we lose the BYU by two on the last second shot, I'm ticked, I want to go back, I want to go back to Madison, I want to start it back up with the boys and I want to go hit it. You know, I just I don't understand it anymore. I don't. I don't understand the mindset I get money Sure, I get the money aspect is there and that's the thing that ruins most of it, right, but at the same time, I don't know, there's got to be a pride aspect, right, like Carter Gilmore for the Badgers, he was a walk-on and he continued to be a walk-on because he's like this is where I want to be. I could go do this, I could go do that, but I want to continue to be a walk-on. He stayed as a walk-on. He's like I just want to play for the Badgers. Those guys don't come around anymore. Chucky Hepburn said oh, I want to be a Badger for life. Then he left for Louisville. That's what John Blackwell I want to believe.
Speaker 1:John Blackwell ain't going anywhere because he said he wants to stay a badger. He wants to be the greatest badger, one of the greatest badgers to ever do it, and I love that. I love that. He said that. I don't believe him, not today. I'll believe it when I see it, when he's on the court next season. I'll believe it. And I'm not calling him a liar. I don't want to call anybody a liar, but that to call anybody a liar, but that's college basketball. Now it's so hard to like sit here and say this guy is for sure going to be back on the court and that's the crappy part, right? So and that's kind of where I wanted to transition with this, because the transfer portal opened on march. I believe what I tell you march 24th there, aaron yes, something I'll give you, a concrete.
Speaker 2:I think you're right, though march 24 sounds right.
Speaker 1:I swear it was like March 24th or something March 24th.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, yes, march 24th, there you go.
Speaker 1:That's ridiculous. March Madness is still happening and I love this. Everybody hates the NIT and everybody hates they have this crown basketball tournament now I was watching it the other night there, nebraska and Arizona State there basketball tournament Now I'm watching. I was watching the other night there, nebraska and Arizona state, there, um, but everybody hates these tournaments because, oh, they're not the NCAA tournament. I love those tournaments. Those are a bunch of dudes who want to play. If you play in the NIT tournament, if you play in the CBI tournament, you play in the crown bag, whatever you call it, the crown basketball tournament, whatever they call it. Now, if you play in those, you just want to play ball. I love those guys. Those are the guys who just want to play ball. They don't care, they're seniors, they're just guys who just want to play a little bit more basketball before it's all done. I love those guys. So if you want to sit here and say, oh, it's just a crappy basketball tournament, you don't know basketball, shut up, that's terrible. I love watching those, because I watched that game the other night between Nebraska and Arizona State. You would have thought it was a regular season game for a title, because those dudes were just going at it. They were ticked and they would get ticked with a foul. It wasn't like they were joking around and laughing and everything. It didn't mean anything. They played like it meant something and I love that.
Speaker 1:But why is the transfer portal opening up when all this is happening, when all this is going on? Because the early window is, I believe it ends April 22nd, so it's like March 24th to April 22nd. There, I believe, is the window. So you have this window that opens up and you want to get in there early because you don't want to get forgotten about. So these players have to get in early. So you have all these guys jumping in. You have these coaches who are down. Like John Cale Perry said, he's got to prepare for a game, he's got to ask his guys if they want to stay or not, or if they're going to end up leaving, and then he's got to go recruit the transfer All in one day. That's wild. The transfer portal needs to be fixed. It needs to be fixed.
Speaker 1:We're going to talk a little bit more of this. After the break here. We're going to come back. We're going to talk a little bit more about this. We got a little bit more Badger Talk to get to. And then we want to jump to the Packers here a little bit today because we got lots to get to. We'll be right back here on Wisconsin Sports on the go with trage. I'm your host trades. We're coming back. It's wednesday, april 2nd. It's a fantastic wednesday here in the great state of wisconsin hey it's always fantastic when you can make it down to foreman's hardware.
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Speaker 2:And it's the truth.
Speaker 1:It is the truth and nobody can deny it at this point here. It's just the hardcore truth of college hoops. And that brings you to the point of what's the point of high school recruiting, right? Because that's a big question. I've been hearing it's like what the heck's the point of it? Why am I recruiting a high school kid like daniel free tag to come sit in madison? And then he gets there and it's like, oh well, I picked up these guys in the transfer portal and daniel free tag isn't as good as those guys. So why would I start daniel free tag? So I'm gonna sit him on my bench, I want to develop him. Well, he doesn't want to sit there and maybe he thinks that I'm better than that. And these coaches spied on me because they told me that, well, you can come here and play right. And well, I didn't play, so I'm going to get upset. So I'm going to leave. What the heck's the point of it, right? I think there still is a point, right? I think there still is a point because, at the end of the day, I still think you're going to get your filler guys. Your stars are going to show up. They're going to play. Your stars are going to play your Jacks, your Nickys, your guys like that. Grappie. Hopefully he develops into something next year there.
Speaker 1:Keizer, who's coming in for the Badgers there? Hopefully, I think right away he could probably be, and I want to talk about that. I think next week we're going to talk a little bit more about you know what I think the Badgers need to do with the transfer portal and that kind of thing. But, um Keiser, I look at him and I'm like this guy could come in and step in and be a scorer right away for Wisconsin. Is he going to be a huge contributor? Maybe not, but I think he'd be a scorer for him there. But you still need guys to get stars right anymore that are going to sit. You're not going to have stars that want to sit right and I think a big thing.
Speaker 1:And I I was listening to oh, I can't remember, um, I think it was. Was it mckinney's? I think it might have been mckinney's coach? There was talking, I believe, and he was talking about you know, or, yeah, I think it was. Mckinney's was talking there and he's talking about you know. Um, it was a mid-major coach. Let's go with that. It was a mid-major coach. I can't remember off the top of my head, I don't want to quote the wrong guy there, but it was mid-major coach and he said you know, the thing with it is now mid-major teams can get a lot of the better recruits, because the better recruits don't want to go sit at Duke and not play.
Speaker 1:They don't want to go sit at these places and not play. They want to play. So they go to a team like McAnee's, they go to a team like Norfolk State or wherever. They sit there for a year, they play basketball, they show their talents and then, because of the transfer portal, now they can just leave that, they can just jump in. So now mid-major teams are turning into like that breeding ground right, where they kind of build you up. They get these guys going and they get their feet wet in college, they develop them a little bit, they get them used to college ball and then they ship them off to the big leagues right. Then they ship them off to your Arkansas's or your Kentucky's or your North Carolina's or Duke's or whoever. That's how it's going to go and I could see that being the way right, because Wisconsin, I think they're going to answer a lot of you.
Speaker 1:I don't think you can answer with recruiting anymore. Right, you're going to guys like I know I'm going to say his name again Cooper flag. You can get guys like Cooper flagging, guys like kind, kind of all. Right, you can get freshmen who are instant impact guys, but nowadays, what would you rather have? I mean, it's an honest question, aaron, what would you rather have? A five-year guy, right, you can get a guy like John Tonje right, you don't know what he is yet, but you can get a guy like John Tonje. I've been there, done that, do it. Or you can get a freshman who is a good recruit. He's a four-star, like Daniel Freetag, but he's not fully developed, he's not ready, but he's there. Who are you going to take, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm taking the proven commodity right Like, yeah, it's pretty.
Speaker 1:I mean pretty straightforward these days.
Speaker 1:So it's like the transfer portals where you got to build your team. You're not for March. You're not building a team through recruiting anymore. Look at Kentucky, look at Duke, look at all these teams. They're going after transfers, they're not just going after the freshmen anymore. Kentucky used to be like freshman central. It used to be one through 10 was freshmen. I remember that year Wisconsin played Kentucky and they had a blue and a white team and it was. They would rotate five guys at a time and they had 10 guys in. The most of them were freshmen and it was like that's nuts, that's crazy. They have that many good freshmen on one basketball team, but that's not the case anymore.
Speaker 1:You don't have that and I am interested to see how many of these young guys, the young recruits right, the four stars and below probably end up going to mid-major schools building themselves up. Maybe not mid-major schools building themselves up, maybe not mid-major, but mid-major, maybe lower-end high-level schools, maybe some lower-end Big East teams or some of the big, I don't know some of these lesser conferences. I guess they go into those lesser teams, ball out there for a little while and then get their time at the big leagues. It's going to be interesting to see how that landscape works. I think high school recruiting is still needed, but I don't think it's as important anymore and I think it's kind of going to go away. I think it is. It's the importance of it for a basketball team excuse me there for a basketball team is going to kind of go away, and I think that's kind of what we're seeing right now. So we got to.
Speaker 1:I mean, I forgot to mention goodness gracious, we're going to get out of the badgers here, but I forgot to mention we're on for two hours now. So, just so you guys know, don't, don't shut us off at the top of the hour. We're coming back at the top of the hour. So I just want to make sure that everybody out there knows that, like, don't think we're on for an hour tonight here, we're on for two hours now. So just make sure you're sticking around there, but we we're on for two hours.
Speaker 1:So we had to come up with some new segments. We're like you got to have more segments, you got to have more fun during the show, right? We got our Melio Minute. That'll be coming up here at the top of the hour. Getting towards the top of the hour, we got the Melio Minute Dad Joke of the Day after the top of the hour. But we got a new segment here Best and Worst of the Week. So our Best and of my worst worst of the week yankees versus brewers. I think that has got to be just about every wisconsin possible. I mean you could probably say if you went back to last week you'd probably say wisconsin versus byu, like that'd probably be a uh, a worst of the week, but I'm gonna have to go with yankees brewers as my worst of the week.
Speaker 1:I was so excited, I was like oh my like the badgers lost, I got brewer like I wouldn't have cared as much about. Like the Badgers lost, I got Brewer. Like I wouldn't have cared as much about baseball if the Badgers were still playing.
Speaker 1:I said that point blank. I was like I wouldn't care as much. But the Badgers are done. So I'm like I'm done with it. Now with basketball, I'm on to baseball and then I watched the start of this Brewer's Yankee series and I'm like why did John Tonje have to miss that shot? Why did he have to miss it? I could still be watching Magic basketball right now here. 15 home runs for the Yankees, 26 runs scored and 34 hits yeah, yeah, that's about as worse of the week as it could possibly get. I had the Bucs in general too. I put the Bucs in general just because the Bucs they are. Dame went out and I know he got that blood clot in the leg, a deep vein thrombosis and that sucked.
Speaker 1:Like I want nothing but Damian Lillard to be healthy and, you know, not just for basketball's sake, but Damian Lillard is a person. I want him to be good and I want him to, you know, because that could be that's scary, like there's a lot of bad things that can happen from that. So I want that to go away and I hope that he can end up playing basketball again, because I know that's something that you know he loves to do. Right, it's his job, so he loves to do it.
Speaker 1:But the Bucs just they look defeated Like they look like Giannis is still going out there and doing it, but everybody else looks like a deer in headlights and they just look like they're beat. Like that game against the Hawks last night or I think those couple nights go there. I mean I watched that game. They look like they were just defeated that whole game and I mean you lost the Hawks, you lost the game to the Knicks before that, you lost the Nuggets before that and you lost the Suns before that. I mean you are on this little streak now where it's like it ain't getting easier. It's definitely not getting easier. In the last I was just looking at this 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, you have 9, 9, 10, 9 losses in the last 13 games. That's not great. Not great right now for the Bucs.
Speaker 1:They're luckily still hanging on to a playoff spot at the moment they're still I mean, they were in the thick of things already so they're still probably most likely as long as they win at least two more games here going to make the playoffs. But I mean, at this point it's like do I want to make the playoffs? Do I want to see this Bucs team in a playoff? It's depressing. This is depressing basketball here. Feel bad for Giannis because he's going out there trying to do it all and it's not there. It's not there. I look at the lineup, I look at what they got and it's like this is a disaster. So Bucs in general right now are my worst or one of my best. So I'll go to my two best here and then I'll flip it over to Aaron for his best and worst of the week there. One of my best I got Sal Froelich. I got Sal Froelich as one of my best of the week there. The guy's batting 429. He's batting 429. He's got. I mean he's been unreal. He had a good series against the Yankees there. He was batting 500 when he left New York and then they came and they played the Royals here. I mean Sal Frelick's been fantastic for the Brewers. So I love what Sal Frelick's been doing and Jake Bauer's pitching. Jake Bauer's pitching Like I was looking through all the pitches.
Speaker 1:I told Aaron I was like there are three pitchers on the entire Brewers roster right now who haven't given up a run from the other day there when I was looking, and it was Jake Bauer's, brian Hudson and Trevor McGill. Those were the three Brewers pitchers I have given a run and that was the other day when I was looking there and it was, I mean, jake Bowers. Two games pitched and two innings. He has given up two hits. I mean, in a season where they're sucking so far, that was a bright spot. I guess that was a bright spot. So Jake Bowers, my best of the week there, through that Yankees series, at least there, because he was pitching well, I guess he was pitching well. So those are my best and worst there of the week. Aaron. What do we got best and worst of the week?
Speaker 2:Absolutely, and we'll start positive. We'll go Chicago White Sox, of all teams, right as we recorded this, you know four games played, two and two, you know, going forward, they might not win another game. Like, excuse me, they might not win another series for a couple months. I, I seriously, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if they go. You know, two months, three months, like if you go back to last season, oh, my goodness, and like you know, I saw they had a decent crowd for opening, opening night at least, or opening day per se. But um, yeah, those, I, yeah, that organization is just in free fall. Basically it's like Oakland of last year as far as it's like a triple-A team playing at the major league level. It's going to be a rough season. So you know, white Sox fans, at least through the first couple games you've had something to cheer about and you've won some games. I mean it could be worse.
Speaker 2:And then for the for the, you know, basically the bad Raphael Devers man, I mean oh, for 19, with like 15 or 16 strikeouts on the on the season, not the, not the, the start he wanted. I mean the guy hit 272 last season, so not to say he can't climb out of this. He's a great hitter on a good team. I don't know, maybe the whole Bregman bringing him in because he was pretty upset about that and, like you know, he's not playing third base Like Bregman's playing third. He's de-aging from what I've seen so far. So I mean, maybe if Kyle listens to this he'll kind of give us his thoughts on the Devers thing, with him being such a Red Sox guy. But yeah, it's odd you see a guy you know as accomplished as Devers start out that poorly and he'll probably figure it out. But I mean, to climb out of 0 for 19 is tough. To get back to 250, that's going to be a mountain and he can do it. It's just wow. 0 for 19 is not great.
Speaker 1:It's a mental game. It's a mental game and, like you said there I think we say it like it's a joke Like was it Bregman coming in that kind of ruined it for him? It could have been Like he's all upset about bregman taking his spot. Now he's not playing the field, he can only do this. Maybe he didn't like that and it's getting to him. It's getting to his psyche and you know he's a good hitter, he's a darn good. Maybe he's just got to face garrett cole.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's got to wait a whole season. He might that right. He's not gonna hit.
Speaker 1:He's not gonna get hit at all this year now that's just how it's gonna be he's not going to get hit at all this year.
Speaker 1:Now, that's just how it's going to be. He's not going to get a hit at all this season. Goodness, oh man. So, hey, I mean, wow, best and worst of the week. I mean, does it get any worse than the Yankees-Brewers series? I got to be honest with you. I mean I feel better when I was like, oh well, that makes me feel a little bit better. The Braves are kind of sticking, and the last time the Brewers had an 0-3 start or 0-4 start I can't remember the stat completely off the top of my head it was like 0-3 or 0-4. It was in 2011. And they ended up going to the NLCS. I want the NL Central. I mean there's a correlation somewhere in between there.
Speaker 1:Hey, on the backside of this, I want to talk about bucks for a second. And then we got Packers, we got all kinds of stuff to get to. So we'll be right back here on Wisconsin sports on the go. Welcome back into Wisconsin sports on the go with trades. I'm your host. Trades, we're coming back.
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Speaker 1:Aaron, we got to get to in this last little bit here before the top of the hour. We got to get to the Melo Yell Minute. We almost missed it, right, we almost missed the Melo Yell Minute. We miss that. So, hey, like I always tell everyone, like I always tell you, if you're sitting at home, maybe you're in the car, wherever you are maybe you're listening to us through your airpods or whatever you got these days and you got your favorite beverage by you. Make sure you crack that baby with me right now. Right, we always crack our favorite beverage with with us. I always got a mellow yellow. Whatever you got, hopefully it's fantastic with you. We got our mellow.
Speaker 1:So, aaron, I'm going to give him the question and he's got a minute and he's got to guess the answer, right. So I got my top three cheeses right. So my favorite cheeses, trage's favorite cheese, the top three on the list, aaron, what do we got? Top three, no particular order. You don't have to get them right. One, two, three. But what do you got for my favorite top three cheeses?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we'll throw something at the wall and see what sticks. Right, let's go Pepper Jack, right off the bat.
Speaker 1:Got it, pepper Jack. There it is there. It is number 10 on my list.
Speaker 2:That's what I go to at Subway too. You got it, you got it it just makes it Quick.
Speaker 1:Chef's got this new pretzel bun pepper jack hamburger. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2:Oh my goodness, how about cheddar? How about just good old cheddar?
Speaker 1:Number one. We'll put number one. You can't go wrong with cheddar. There's so many different kinds of cheddar. You can't go wrong with it. We got it. Number one spot.
Speaker 2:See, getting the first two out of the way. But then this number three is where I'm kind of scraping the bottom here. Uh, man, man, man, man, man. Um, pro provolone is nothing special, I don't think it's provolone.
Speaker 1:Provolone is not special. That's uh, that's a too fancy of a cheese to just be a delicacy. Uh, it's not fancy.
Speaker 2:I'm not a fancy cheese guy right and, like I know, cheese girds are a type of like it's an assortment of any type of cheese.
Speaker 1:Cheese girds are number one. If we had to go, type of cheese girds are number one, that's out there.
Speaker 2:What about Colby cheese? Colby cheese.
Speaker 1:Colby cheese is tied. It's tied for third. I got mozzarella, I got Colby. They're tied for third. They're tied for third. I got mozzarella, I got Colby. They're tied for third. They're tied for third. In there, no goat cheese. That stuff's disgusting. That stuff is absolutely disgusting. Blue cheese it's like when you go and they're like you want ranch or blue cheese with your wings there and I'm like why you ask me for blue cheese? Take that somewhere else.
Speaker 2:I'll take the ranch, I'll take the bottle, bring it over, turn it sideways, turn it turn it side.
Speaker 1:I'm done with this. Done with this here. So we went into the break and we were talking about I wanted to talk about the bucks for a minute.
Speaker 1:I just want to talk about the bucks for a minute, because I I this season for the bucks it's like the most uninterested I've been in the box and you guys know me, I'm not a huge nba guy. I'll watch it, I'm not. I like college basketball, my college basketball, my favorite thing in the world. But nba is like I'll watch it, but it's not my forte, it's not my number one, right? But it was looking at the stat the other day. The bucks are. The bucks are going to experience their worst season since 2017, 2018. This year. Wins per win, wise, right, and you, I know 2020, 2021, it was a shortened season. They had 46 wins. We're going to call that that's shortened season regularly. If you actually put it as an 82-game season, I saw they factored it in as like a 52-win season there. So it is going to be their worst season since 2017-2018.
Speaker 1:You look back at that team. I was looking back at the roster a little bit there. You had guys like Eric Bledsoe on that team. You had, I mean Jennings was on that team Chris Middleton, young Chris Middleton, younger Giannis, right, I mean you had some young guys on that roster for the Bucs there and I mean Tony Snell I saw, I think he was on that roster there too. I mean, I'm looking back and it's like that was not a good team, right. And when I look at this team here, you got Giannis right, dame's banged up. You can't keep anybody healthy on this roster.
Speaker 1:Brooke Lopez, I mean he's your. I couldn't, I would never, I would have never thought I would say Brooke Lopez has been like the, the common, like been in there the whole time guy. I would not have said it, but Brooke Lopez has been pretty, pretty darn consistent for this Milwaukee Bucks team where he's going to be out there pretty much night in and night out, and if he's not, something serious is going on with Brooke, because I mean, he's that kind of guy and you like guys like that. But it's like, at the same time, I'd love to keep Giannis on the floor, I'd love to keep a guy like Dame on the floor. And so far because I'm looking at it here, I was looking at the stats here 73 games Brooke Lopez has played in 73 games. Brooke Lopez has played. That's majority, that's basically every single one of them. Giannis 61 games. Dame has played in 58. Kyle Kuzma recent addition. So that doesn't really count there. Bobby Portis has played 46. We know about the suspension, so you're going to get him back at some point there.
Speaker 1:Andre Jackson Jr this is where my confusion is is why Pat Cunnington is now ahead of Andre Jackson Jr in this depth chart thing, the depth chart with Doc Rivers. And this is where I'm done with Doc Rivers. I don't know why we keep, is it? Oh, giannis is telling us this. Like Boone Holzer took us to the finals, boone Holzer took us to the finals. Boone Holzer was not the problem. We sit here and we're like Boone Holzer was the problem.
Speaker 1:I love Giannis, I do. I love Giannis. Great guy, love listening to him talk. He's a great family man, everything like that. You want to emulate the personality and that of Giannis onto yourself when you watch him at times. But I think Giannis has a lot to do with what's part of the problem too with Milwaukee, because when you and this is the problem with professional sports you give stars power, you give those stars power. You got to, because otherwise they're like well, you're not going to give me power here, I'll go get power somewhere else, right? They're power hungry. They want to have control over their team. They're the star, they want to have control.
Speaker 1:Okay, so we trade away Drew Holiday. How has that worked? I got to be honest with you. I've said it since the beginning that was not a good trade, damian. I like Dame, I do Like I to hear and tell you, like that was. You know, damian Lillard's the worst thing that's ever happened to Milwaukee, but Damian Lillard's not. He what he didn't take you over the top, he didn't. And Chris Middleton, I'm sorry but you waited too long with trading him. What was that trade supposed to do? Now? Kyle Kuzma, that's what you did. Kyle Kuzma was supposed to fix this. No, and now look what you did. You don't have Middleton and you don't have Dame. You lost both of them.
Speaker 1:Now I just, I sit here and I watch this Bucs team. I try, I try to tune in Like I, like I said, I'm not a huge NBA guy, but I'll watch it. If I'm intrigued, if it's an interesting you know, like, if the Bucs are playing well, I'll watch. I, I I barely can flip on the TV for him. Right now I'd rather watch the Brewers and that stinks, like the Brewers stink and it's like what am I supposed to watch right now? That's why it's so heartbreaking that the Badgers lost. It's like I was like I'm going to get over it with the Brewers. I'm not, I'm not. I wish the Badgers were still playing because they gave me some good basketball. I just I'm.
Speaker 1:Doc uses his depth, the way he rotates players, the way that this team is and the way they look defeated night in and night out on the court. Right now Giannis looks like he's the only guy playing. I mean Brooke plays right, but outside of that, I mean his team looks defeated. They just look like they don't care, they look like it's over. So I mean, if anybody out there is like what's your thoughts on the playoffs? Like where is this team going to be going into the playoffs, first round exit.
Speaker 1:I got to be honest with you, unless if even getting Dame back, I mean you get Dame back. Has he actually been like okay, he can't practice right now. So when he comes back, he's on no practice. So you almost have a week before he can get back in the game or ready to go for a game. Right, you can't just throw him to the wolves. Bobby portis has been out for a while. He can get back to practice here, but bobby portis coming back there too, he's gonna be out. He's been out for a while. So you have two guys where you're like, yeah, when they come back they're gonna be rested, ready to go.
Speaker 1:But, dame, I mean, you're sitting here thinking, dame, I, I don't know right, because that those signs are good, but that can go different directions. A blood clot in the leg, that can go different directions and you hope for the best, but you're not rushing it either. And Dame's not rushing it. He doesn't care, those guys don't care and I wouldn't care, right, I want to be healthy and this is a dangerous thing for Dame. It's not like it's just a little twisted ankle, it's not like it's a knee, it's. It's a dangerous situation for him.
Speaker 1:Something that shut down Victor Wambayama for an entire season. He's done. He's done for the year with his and his shoulder. Dan's trying to come back. They said there's good things coming out of camp and everything like that towards the situation.
Speaker 1:But I'm sitting here right now and I'm like I, I, I don't think. I don't think we're going to see. I don't know if we're going to see Daniel again this year and if we don't, I know Giannis is going to give it his all to try and take this Bucs team and get them over the hump, get them into the playoffs, and well, they're going to make the playoffs. But then after that, what the heck is going to happen? Right, because they're on the verge of being in the play-in tournament now.
Speaker 1:And if you end up in the play-in tournament which I don't want to say that they're going to end up there, right, I hope that they can spit off a couple wins here, end up in a good spot there in a six or a five seed, whatever, right, I'm hoping they can get to that point and maybe get Dame back, get Bobby back, get a little healthier, heading into the playoffs. That'd be great. But I just don't know. I just don't know. And then, when you get there, like I said, you're banking on guys who have been out for a little bit to come back and carry you. It works sometimes, but it's I don't know. I'm not going to put my faith in it, right, I'm not going to put my faith in it.
Speaker 1:And you know what Everybody's talking. Well, I can't remember who it was. If it was, I can't remember who the heck was talking about it there. I think it was on Bill Michaels show. Maybe I heard him talking about it there. Whoever he talks about the Bucs there, I can't remember what that cause his name is off the top of my head now but he's talking about defense, right, and he's talking about this Bucs team needs to play well defensively If they're going to.
Speaker 1:We're recording this on Tuesday, as you guys know. We're pre-recorded a little bit there. But as we're recording this, they're beating up on the Suns by 10 right now on the 4th. Hopefully they can hang on to that one. They hold them at 89 points. But you look, outside of that, the Hawks put up 145, the Knicks put up 116, the Nuggets put up 127. Defensively it's not going well. So that's the one thing you needed to help you get some wins here. If you can't control teams defensively, I don't know if offensively they got enough. So right now I'm nervous as a bucks fan to see what's going to happen here moving forward for the milwaukee bucks. We'll see. I mean we'll see. Hopefully dame can come back. Hopefully, you know, bobby comes back ready to go. It's going to be interesting there, but hey, we got lots more to get to tonight. That's all I got for bucks time. Hell minute, it's like holy crap.
Speaker 1:I rattled off the whole top of the hour. Here we got at the top of the hour. Here we're going to have Packers talk, because the NFL owners' meetings was yesterday. We got a whole bunch of rule changes. We got all kinds of stuff to talk about. So we'll be back on the top side of this break. Here We'll get to the Packers. Welcome back to the top of the hour. Here we are. Here we are, and we are here with our dad joke of the day. So, aaron, here's my dad joke of the day. All right, I think I'm ready. Here we go. Here we go. I gave my handyman a to-do list but he only did jobs. One, three and five. Turns out he only does odd jobs. Funny, funny, funny one there, funny one there internet.
Speaker 1:At the break. I had to get a new pen. I had to get a new pen over here. Did you know? It writes packers it writes other words too, but I wrote pack. There's another dad joke, another two for one today.
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Speaker 1:So we had one one question come in. This came in from the red shed there via twitter, always great friend of the show. So we had one one question come in. This came in from the red shed there via twitter, always great friend of the show. Over there he's telling us that we got to be down at the draft. He's telling us get over to the draft there in green bay. He's like you gotta be there. I'm like I'll try, I'll see what the wife says. I'll see what the wife says, I'll try. And it's like maybe, possibly, hopefully, I don't know, we'll see how it's gonna be's going to be crazy. I think the draft is going to be crazy in Green Bay. You know it's Green Bay, it's not like LA or anything like that, so parking is going to be crazy. I think it's going to be mad town, but it'd be something to see. It'd be definitely something to see. Maybe we can get some passes, maybe we can get some passes I got. Maybe they're listening, they're like you don't get passes, I don't know. I don't know there. But there was a question, a question for the show here. He said lots of talk about drafting edge rushers or cornerbacks early in this year's draft Under Joel Berry.
Speaker 1:The narrative was Green Bay was overinvested in the defensive side. So many first rounders, so much talent right, the big thing was all the time. Why don't we get weapons for Aaron Rodgers? Much talent, right, the big thing was all the time. Why don't we get weapons for aaron rogers? It was always. Why don't we get weapons? Why don't we get weapons? Oh, you know, every year now it's most of those guys are still here. Why is the narrative changed? Heck, they added the two best defenders last season and edgar and cooper and xavier mckinney.
Speaker 1:So there comes this question there is why is that narrative changed? You know, since, since jeff halfley took over? Why are we changed to the fact now where it's like we don't really care anymore about the offensive side of the ball? We're like we need to draft defense. Right, we need to draft defense.
Speaker 1:I think a big I don't know like there's two crowds for me. There's a crowd of people who are like the Packers need to get a wide receiver, they need to get a weapon out there in the wide receiver room. They need to find this guy because they need to have weapons on the opposite side of the football. And I agree with that right, because we talked about it in you know kind of our draft talk, our free agent talk. I said I said point blank, I said you need a guy who demands the defense's respect, who when they look at the field they see him. Right, you've got to have that guy where you know corners, whatever they kind of shade to his side of the field. Because they're like that's that dominant guy, that's that long ball threat, right, that's that guy we have to watch out for. The Packers didn't have that guy last year, so I thought that was kind of a thing where the Packers needed to address. But then you look at the flip side of it and you're like, okay, the pass rush was not good.
Speaker 1:Now the question is if the narrative has changed now. Did people believe that the pass rush was better underneath of Joel Berry than it is underneath of Jeff Halfley. Did they have better? Guys Like you're talking Zedaria Smith, you're talking some, you know Preston Smith like average dudes, like, did they think that the pass rush was better than the quarterback? You know the secondary, did they think the secondary was better underneath the Joel Berry?
Speaker 1:Or has it been kind of the media's input? Because I notice a lot of times people like to jump on, they like to jump on wagons, right, you know, if one person on the radio and I know new york media is a big thing for that too one person in new york media says, wow, eric judge is doing this wrong, how many people you think you're gonna see out on the street who are gonna tell you, if you start talking about the yankees and they listen to sports talk radio, they're gonna tell you that same thing that he just said. Right, he's gonna that same perspective he just gave them. They're gonna be like, I'm gonna be smartest guy in the room, I'm gonna go say what you know, whatever, whoever said this, I'm gonna go say what he said to them and they're gonna be like oh, wow, you know what you're talking about, right, because I heard, because I heard him say that earlier. So it's like oh, now you know he's talking like him. Oh, my goodness, like this guy knows what he's talking about sometimes. That has a lot to do with it too.
Speaker 1:Media perception right Back then it was well, aaron Rodgers is the dog. They don't really need a good defense. They can score a lot. Right Nowadays. It's like when I watched the Eagles last year the Packers need more pass rush, plain and simple. Like I watched the Eagles and I'm like Saquon Barkley was fantastic, jalen Hurts was, eh, it was good.
Speaker 1:I don't want to say like I hate hating on Jalen Hurts, because I don't hate the guy. Like he's a solid dude, right Solid dude, like holy crap, like he can squat my house and then some. But like he's not Patrick Mahomes, he's not this guy who's going to like take you over. You know he's not going to win the game for you most of the time, most of the time it's going to be a collective effort, and Jalen Hurts is there too, and that's just the way I see it. I think Jalen Hurts is a great quarterback.
Speaker 1:Is he a top five quarterback? I don't know, it depends. Like winning wise, yeah, like he's a winner. He's a winner Like that dude wins games and I am all for that. I want a quarterback that wins games, right. But if I was, if I was in the end of a game and I was like I need this quarterback to drive me down the field and win it, I don't know if Jalen hurts, is that guy Like I don't know? If I want stats, I don't know if Jalen hurts, is my guy. If I want touchdowns, I don't know. If he's my guy. He's a collective effort guy. Is he going to contribute on a game-winning drive to take him down the field? Yeah, like he, he can do it.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying he can't do it, but my belief is I guess, when I look at it, is the Eagles did not win the Super Bowl because of the offense, completely right, or the defense completely. I think it was a collective effort both ways, and I think that's kind of where the narratives changed in Green Bay now is it's well, the pass rush stinks, the secondary it got worse. So now it's exposed because the pass rush stinks, so the secondary looks even worse and the offense had a drop problem with wide receivers. So now you're trying to answer all these questions because you had just about everything that could possibly go wrong with this team go wrong last year at some point, and now fans are trying to answer every single question in this offseason.
Speaker 1:I think there will be pieces that are already there that are going to fit the fold. I just don't think it's going to fix. You're not going to fix everything internally. I think you have to add pieces, right. I don't think that you're going to have the receiving core just figure it out and you're going going to have the pass rush. That room is just going to say, oh crap, year three, let's go get them right.
Speaker 1:No, I don't see that happening. The secondary I don't see the youth just all of a sudden boom taking off, like not everything is going to happen that way. So I think you have to add. I just think that there's this. The narrative I think has changed because there's different perspective in on it now and I think everybody is looking at different areas and I think it's a split group narrative. Now, aaron, I mean, what are you thinking? Well, I mean the narrative you've definitely heard like over the years, the Packers went from well, we didn't get enough for Aaron Rogers, right, we didn't get enough help for Aaron Rogers to now. It's well, jordan Love's got enough help. We need to get this guy a pass rush. We need to get this guy a pass rush.
Speaker 2:We need to get this on our defense. What I mean, where are you at with this Packers team right now? What are you thinking Is my? My thing is like is the offense good enough? Like it's not one of those like Cincinnati Bengals situations where, like they're putting up 40 a game and they're giving up 40 a game, like I don't think the offense is as prolific as what the bangles can give you, but their defense isn't as bad as what the bangles. So you're kind of like in that middle ground, like the offense isn't bad. Um, I was, would I say. The offense is like elite. No, um, would I say the defense has holes. Yes, I, I think, like you said.
Speaker 2:I mean I remember growing up. You know, like the, the bj rajis, the clay matthews, like green bay had a stout defense, like not saying forever, but they had a. They had a window where it was like, okay, they're, they're a pretty darn good defense. You know, like they're, they're up there with the stealer, when the stealers had a good defense up there with the ravens, like they were at least talked about. Now, like when's the last time you heard somebody talk about the, the packers defense? I, I just, it just doesn't happen, you know. So not to say they're horrible, but they're just like. They are very easily just like people forget about it. It's just they're an afterthought, which isn't great.
Speaker 2:So I think they do need to address the defense. I mean, you know we kind of clamored all off season long to go get Jordan Love like a pure number one. I still think they should have done that. Now can they find that in the draft? You know, if you hit on a draft pick, yeah, but um, defensively, like we talked about it too, like max you know max crosby is out there now. You weren't going to give him the money that the raiders just literally handed him you know, basically the franchise with the amount of money they gave him.
Speaker 2:But, um, you know, if you could have got, there was a guy out of tennessee, I forget his name, he still might be out there. But um, just somebody like you know, bona fide, like established uh, defensive pressure, you know, like an edge rusher, um, so I still think, like you said, I think they still need those type of things if they want to compete like at a, an eagles level. I mean, the nfc is kind of open now, um, I, I would try to to stack up now before, like the Niners figure it out again or like Detroit's kind of a question mark. So there is that window, it's just you have, you have to add, like there's the way they are now, I, I just don't think they can, unless, you know, the Eagles get injured, or or, like the Packers go on like a run, which can happen. I just where where they're now. I think they need work.
Speaker 1:Yes, you need that guy on the defensive front. Who's going to take? He's going to be a game wrecker, but I think when you have that guy like a Miles Garrett or a Max Crosby or a Nick Bosa when he was like rolling Joey Bosa, not so much Nick TJ Watt, joey TJ Watt, those kinds of guys you have a guy like that. He demands a presence and then other guys are able to, you know, step up and be a guy. Right, rashawn Gary I think part of his problem is Rashawn Gary. I think he's still good. I just think he doesn't have help. And when you don't have help, when nobody else can win a one on one they can't get off their block Then you're looking at a guy like Rashawn Gary. You can double him all day long. You can double them all day long, and twice on Sunday. I mean, that's just how it works. And if you don't have to worry about anybody else, who cares, right, when the Packers have to send the house just to get pressure, your secondary is going to be exposed, and then I don't care who you got back there. There is nobody in the NFL anymore. Is no Revis Island? There is no guys like that anymore. That's, that's gone. That's the past, right. No guy in the second no corner you're gonna get now is going to constantly win one-on-ones, like Revis did. It's a different kind of football now.
Speaker 1:You need guys who are just going to be able to defend for, like the Eagles I mean, look at them. It's like maybe eight, maybe, maybe eight seconds, maybe nine seconds at max before those guys are getting home and even before that they're getting pressure. The packers, they got pressures at times, but not the pressure I, I. I see a fine line of pressure and I talked about this once before in the show. There's a fine line of pressure. There's pressure just making a quarterback step up. And then there's the pressure that the eagles put on patch mahomes in super bowl where running for his life. There's. There's the pressure where you got to move out of the pocket every single time that you drop back and it's just. It's that kind of game, that's pressure. That is pressure to me.
Speaker 1:The Packers don't deliver that consistently and I think that's that's where they need to address and I think that's where they've failed so far here in the offseason to address that glaring problem. And we're going to keep coming back to it and it doesn't matter how many you know? We say it. Bill michaels will say it on his show there, dan gasper will say it over in eau claire. They're going to talk about it all day long like, hey, the packers need to address this problem.
Speaker 1:I I don't know why they haven't, and from what, we're going to talk about what brian gutekens and matt lafleur had to say a little bit. They have a lot of faith in what they have, and I love that. Guys have faith in the dudes that they drafted. I love that. But at what points do you just have to give up on that guy, right? So let's get into that. We're going to get into that at the next break here. We're going to go to break. We're going to come back.
Speaker 1:I want to talk about Packers. We got Brian Gutekind spoke to the media, matt LaFleur we here. We'll be right back on wisconsin sports on the go with trage. Welcome back into wisconsin sports on the go with trage. I'm your host, trage. We're coming back. It's wednesday, april 2nd, here in the great state of wisconsin or wherever you're tuning in tonight maybe you're tuning on the app at wosq app across wherever you're at tonight here, hopefully you are having a great night. Wherever you are too. I know the Shed said he was traveling to Italy, so you know I don't know, maybe he's having some wine for us here while listening to the show.
Speaker 1:So tonight here, we got another segment here. What's grinding Trage's gears? Because there's always. You know, you guys heard me yelling about Cooper Flagg and Duke earlier on tonight there, so you know something's always grinding my gears. So what's grinding my gears? So what's grinding my gears as of late here, aaron, I gotta be honest with you.
Speaker 1:The number one thing that grinds my gears every single day is that I go into okay, let's just say like I walk into a subway or McDonald's or um chips right, I love chips here in, uh, central Wisconsin chips. So down there on the South side of Marshfield and I go in there and I'm like I'm going to try something different. I always tell myself that I'm going to try something different. Go to Subway, go to Chip's there I get the champ burger every time at Chip's. And I go to Subway and I'm like I am going to go crazy with this Sub. I'm going to go absolutely wild and get something crazy this time Chicken, bacon ranch. Every time, every time, without fail. I walk in there. I'm like, looking at the menu, I'm like, and then they ask you like what do you want? And I'm like, oh shoot, chicken bacon ranch, like it's just like second nature.
Speaker 1:I'm like I'm looking at this and I tell you something else. So that is what's grinding my gears. I go into fast food restaurants and I never could order anything but the same thing every time, because it's like it's instilled in my head that when I go to McDonald's I have to get two cheeseburgers and 10 piece chicken McNugget. That's it. That's what I get every single time. I can't order anything else. I get the same stinking thing. It drives me nuts. Somebody, when they go get me fast food, get me something weird, so that way I can just get over this hump, because right now it's the same thing.
Speaker 2:For next week's show. I think you have to report back here. It doesn't matter where you go Subway McDonald's chips, like you said, arby's. I don't know if you got it, you probably have Arby's.
Speaker 1:We got Arby's, we got Arby's, but the same thing. I get the one-pound beef and cheddar. Every single time it's like I know they'll fail. No, don't fail. I look at the menu and I'm like whoa, that looks crazy this time.
Speaker 2:You owe it to the radio. If you're not doing it for yourself, you owe it to the radio listeners. You got to try something different. I'm going to get something weird and you got to tell us how it is. It won't be as good, though I can always tell you.
Speaker 1:My gut is just going to hurt after what I'm going to get, but I'm going agree with this. One should have stuck with the two cheeseburgers.
Speaker 2:Now you got this and body don't agree so now you got it out of the way, there you go so that's grinding my gears right now.
Speaker 1:That's grinding my gears right now also that girl scout cookies are not available 365 days out of the year. That drives me nuts.
Speaker 2:That drives me nuts what's your, what's your go-to there?
Speaker 1:I, I want to go locally down to my festival and just buy cookies all the time. And I know that one time you go down there and they con you into it. They do because they put this you know this little kid out there and it's like they put the cutest kid out there and they're just like they want you to like buy the cookies. So that's what they do. They put this little kid out there and they're like hey, do you want to buy some cookies? And you're like stay strong, stay strong, stay strong. And you're like walking past, like tense, like you're just clenching, you're sweating, you're just like I need those cookies.
Speaker 1:And then you end up buying the cookies and you don't. You forget what you went to the grocery store for. You get home, your wife yells at you because you didn't get the right things, because you have a load of cookies and you got like one thing of mayonnaise and you forgot that you weren't even supposed to go get mayonnaise. So I mean that's a whole mess. It's a whole nother mess of things. But I'm telling you right now that I just want Girl Scout cookies 365 days out of the year and I don't know who would complain about that. But if you are going to complain about that, I'm going to complain about you. So what's?
Speaker 2:your favorite there? What's your favorite Girl Scout cookie?
Speaker 1:What's those coconut? The coconut with the chocolate drizzle on them. Oh, my goodness gracious, I could sit.
Speaker 1:My problem is I could sit down and I crack them things open and it's just like, oh, I got to unbutton my pants Like I just got to, just unbutton the pants, sit down, kick the feet up, and then it's just box after box after box, Like if you don't take it away from me, I'm going to ruin my dinner, like that's, that's how I'm going to do it. Right there, I don't mean so many cookies that I want to put myself into a nap, but like that's just how it goes every single time I'm like I got to walk away from you because I can't. I just can't even look at you right now.
Speaker 1:Oh, man so yeah, those, those, those coconut ones. Oh goodness gracious, I didn't know they were coconut. At first. I didn't really like coconut until I had those cookies. Yes, this is like oh my goodness, oh, oh man. So that's a. That's enough about cookies. That's no more cookies for the night, even though now I'm like, oh my God, I wish I had some girl scout cookies. This is what we do to ourselves, right?
Speaker 2:This is what we do to ourselves just have cookies 365 days out of the year and make them a little bit cheaper so I can stock them up even better. Sponsor the show. Sponsor the show.
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Speaker 1:You'll be like what do we do with it? And I'll be like I don't know, buy more cookies. Like I don't, I don't know what to do, like that's where we're at. That's where we're at right now. So right now the Packers they're not buying cookies, but they're talking to the media down at the NFL owners meetings right now. We heard from a little bit from Brian Gutekinds. That was two days ago and we heard from Matt LaFleur yesterday there. So I want to get to a little bit of what we heard from those two and I mean basically from goody, what we saw.
Speaker 1:Elton jenkins, he's going to move to center. We know that already. So that was going to be the talk. It's like, what are they going to do? They got, you know, banks came in and he also talked about banks there a little bit. His athleticism separates his, him as a left guard there, so he's, you know, gave huge props to what they got with aaron banks there. But there was a big question what were they going to do at center, right, where they're going to? Who are they going to slide over? We thought it was going to be elton jenkins, but we were still like, ah, you know, what are they going to do? Who knows yet. Well, we got our answer. Brian goodekin says as right now elton jenkins is going to play center, aaron Banks is going to be at that guard spot there. So you love to see that.
Speaker 1:The Packers had their eyes on Nate Hobbs for a while. You know it looks like. More specifically it was Packers director of pro personnel, richmond Williams. I mean he loved Hobbs. He loved Hobbs there in his fourth season in Las Vegas, played a lot of nickel cornerback for the Raiders. But the Packers feel like with his size and his speed he can play in the perimeter too a little bit. So they're interested in having him. His versatility is what really stuck out to Brian Goodikens there. He loves his versatility and can't wait to see Nate Hobbs. They've had it their eye. Like I said, they've had their eye on him for a very long time. So I love to see that there.
Speaker 1:Mikel Hard Hardman he talked about him a little bit there, definitely in the conversation to return kickoffs and punts. I know I believe he was a punt returner. He has more experience in the punt return game but he can be a kick returner. He's just been more of a punt returner for him there. I got to be honest with you, I didn't see it really any other way. I don't know why. That was a question. I really thought that the big reason why they brought in Hardman was for kick returns and was for punt returns. I thought that was a big reason because Keyshawn Nixon said he didn't really want to do it, and Jaden Reed I mean I don't want to get Jaden Reed hurt returning punts. So if I can get a guy who can just do it for me, who's a little more experienced and does it well, I'm good with that. And right now I mean we're going to talk about it in a minute. But the nfl had a rule change about the kickoffs to, you know, push it out to the 35 yard line for touchbacks. So I believe there's gonna be a lot more kick returns this season too. So we're gonna see a lot more opportunities. I'd love to see hardman back there with his skill set, be able to return some kicks. So we'll see what happens there.
Speaker 1:Uh, brandy mcmanus was essential for green bay to get back. We talked about that. We said you got to have the kicking game figured out, because if you don't have that figured out, you have nothing figured out a kicker is actually their top priority and they're very few and far between finding a good one. We know that that's what we saw with the Packers. They got Brandon McManus back there. Um, jordan Morgan, he's going to continue to work at guard and tackle. So they're working on Jordan Morgan with his versatility Young fell there, got hurt last season. They're going to work with him with that versatility a little bit there.
Speaker 1:Green bay I mean they talked about their urgency a little bit there and brian gutekens went into that. He talked about you know everybody's talking about the packers. You know brian gutekens said urgency and they're kind of confused on what that means. You know they went out and got two guys nate hobbs, aaron base. What did that mean by urgency and not really going after the wide receivers? They thought going after this. And you know he basically said like it's not just going after new guys, it's about the guys in the room too, and he made that comment about urgency. It's about the guys in the room, it's about him. It's about matt lafleur, it's about, you know, the defense. It's about the players that are already there. It's not as much about we have to go get all these guys. That's the urgency part. It's about guys in the room stepping up and filling those roles. So that was part of his urgency comment that I saw there.
Speaker 1:Um, outside of that, he just kind of, you know, talked about uh, packers aren't counting out christian watson. You know he still believes that christian watson is going to have an impact at some point there in this next season, just a matter of when. And then he kind of talked about, you know, with or without the draft, the packers feel they have the pass rushers. They need to take a step forward in 2025. So he talked about the pass rush like I talked about before there. He believes that they have some guys in the room right now. They are still going to probably look out elsewhere, right, but he believes that they have the guys in the room.
Speaker 1:He also spoke on Jair Alexander a little bit. There, and I mean Jair at this point here. He's just like, if we, if he's here, he's here, we're in the works with them right now and if they're gonna make a trade, they'd love for the trade to happen before the uh nfl draft. But that's a perfect world, this isn't a perfect world, so we'll see what kind of happens there. We'll see. Maybe he gets traded during the draft, right? Maybe maybe they get a phone call in the first round if somebody says we'll trade you this pick and Jair Alexander for this guy and it's like, okay, let's, let's do that deal. So we'll wait and see what kind of happens there with Jair, but definitely still on the table for him to be traded there. So that's kind of what Brian Gutekunst had to say.
Speaker 1:Uh, matt LaFleur he kind of just echoed the same thing with Nate Hobbs, talking about his versatility loves his versatility, what they're going to be able to do with him On the defensive side of the ball. There they're trying to find great usage for Tucker Kraft. When Tuck gets the ball, usually good things happen. Lefleur said he's a powerful dude. He runs extremely hard. I love how he finishes. One thing I think he's got to learn, just in terms of when he does finish, is he doesn't try to take somebody's head off every time. He gets a little out of control at times. I think that's a balance, but the mentality is exactly what you want. So he's talking about Tucker Kraft there and his you know best attribute going into this next season his aggression, and that's what also makes him a little susceptible to injury. So he's got to find that happy medium in this next season here to keep himself available, keep himself out of harm's way but also get things done in the field. So he's kind of looking at Tucker Kraft there.
Speaker 1:Also, he talked about the Packers and their drops last year and he said we had a ton of drops and that's an area that we have to clean up. A lot of things happen, there's a lot of variables, but I think we've got a pretty good plan going into next season. That is what I want to see fixed, because if you fix the drop problem for the Green Bay Packers, you might look back at that number one wide receiver need and say, well, we maybe could still use one, but you clean up the drop problem. That cleans up three-quarters of the problem. That's a big fix If they can find a way. Like Matt LaFleur is saying, I love that. They finished tied for third most drops 33 last season. You take away the drops from last year and it's a whole different ball club we're talking about. It's a whole different team we're talking about there and a whole different, probably a whole different ending to the season that we're talking about for green bay packers. That could be the difference between a couple wins and avoiding philadelphia. So that's a big, a big difference. So we'll kind of we'll wait and see what kind of happens there with this Packers team. Hopefully they take that step forward, like he said.
Speaker 1:Talked about Jordan Love. He said he doesn't expect any lingering issues with that knee. That's good news. That's great news there with Jordan Love, because if Jordan Love does not have mobility, if he doesn't have the ability to escape the pocket, get out and run a little bit takes away from like half of his game. So you split literally what Jordan Love is in half. Not good. So love to hear that out of Matt LaFleur.
Speaker 1:There, uh, the Packers are looking forward to a second season of Malik Willis at QB2. So Malik Willis is sticking around. That's all we need. Though Malik Willis is sticking around there for the Green Bay Packers. The Packers expect Jordan Morgan to push for a starting job this offseason. So to answer kind of what uh, brian Gutekinds had to say there, he he said we're going to see him at guard and tackle a little bit. They're working around Packers.
Speaker 1:According to Matt LaFleur, it's going to be a great competition. He said Him and Sheed are going to battle it out and hopefully push each other to make each other better. That's what you want. That's what you want Two guys battling for a starting spot at the NFL level. That's what you want. That's what's going to make you better. So I can't wait to see that there. And depth is huge. Depth, depth is huge with the green bay packers. We saw that against the eagles there.
Speaker 1:Um, looking at some of the other things he talked about, luke getzey and his new ideas that he's going to bring to the offensive mix, love to see that right, luke gets. He coming back in hopefully does bring a, you know, different kind of mindset to the green bay packers. That's something that definitely could change, alter this team. Is the mindset going into game. So that could be a definite huge booster, especially in the offensive side of the football there.
Speaker 1:And then you also talk about Demarcus Covington's experience as a defensive coordinator. So, uh, covington replaced the new, the old, defensive line coach there, so he's coming in to replace him there. He was served as defensive coordinator for the Patriots last year and that's a good thing to too a guy that Jeff Halfley can kind of bounce ideas off. There have a guy who's experienced in the room, been there, done that in the AFC side. He might have a few things to help out Jeff Halfley there. So that's huge. That's a great thing to hear there. So the Marcus Covington experience was something that Matt LaFleur loved there for this Packers team. So we got a little bit more to get to with the NFL.
Speaker 1:I want to talk about these rule changes when we come back. We got Brewer Talk to wrap us up for the day. Can't wait to get to it. We'll be back here in just a couple minutes. Welcome back to Wisconsin Sports Time to Go with Trage. I'm your host, trage.
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Speaker 1:I want to get to my overreaction of the week because we're going to have an overreaction of the week. I got to have something Like I grind my gears, something's grinding my gears every week, something I'm freaking out about every single week. Right, I got to have something freaking out about. My overreaction of the week is essentially that the Brewers season is over before it even started. That's going to be my overreaction of the week and I'll be honest with you, that's everybody's reaction right now. Oh, my goodness gracious, if I got to everybody. It's literally everybody. I go to Lockdown Brewers. Bam over, it's even over.
Speaker 1:The one guy who's actually somewhat subtle right now is bill. I love bill michaels and right now I was tuned. I tuned into that. I was totally cold work. I was like bill is gonna be hot. They're all in four right now. He's gonna light it up into him. He's gonna be the one that's, you know, yelling and screaming and everything. And I think he, he said it point blank. He's like they're four games in, it's okay, we're okay. Yet and I was like wow, I can't believe. The guy himself, just like subtly, gave me that answer. I couldn't believe it. So I mean, that was something. So my overreaction of the week will be the Brewers season is just done, it's just done. Goodness Done Over O-V-'s just done. Goodness Done Over O-V-E-R Over. Right, that's my overreaction of the week there.
Speaker 1:So we want to get to the NFL rule changes. Then we'll jump back to the Brewers. We want to get to the NFL rule changes here real quick Because there's some interesting ones on the docket. So the number one was going to be the Tush Bush. We were going to talk about that Tush Bush there. The Tush Bush kind of went away. 16-16 vote there of the NFL owners. You have to have 24 votes for the whatever to pass the rule to pass. It was 16-16 there. It was an even split. So basically it just kind of we'll wait and vote again later. We'll wait and vote again later. Right, we'll wait and vote again later.
Speaker 1:I think for some reason in my head I think there's more guys sitting on the we should, we, we shouldn't ban it side who are kind of like we should ban it, but I don't want to say it. Right, I think that's where they're at. They don't want to be the guys to say it. I don't think there's anybody out there. Out, you know, there's probably some owners who are probably like, oh, I don't care, like Mike Vrabel who says you know, like, oh well, you know you got to stop Lamar Jackson, you got to stop other plays, what's wrong with it?
Speaker 1:This one's this, this whole play, this whole concept is different and we talked about that. You know about the differences of some of this kind of stuff. But I just I look at it's like it's. It's the only play in football where you can put direct hands on a guy and you can put like 500 pounds of pressure behind the guy and go straight forward and I, I take the player safety thing out the window, I get you know they're precautionary, sure like it looks like a play that could get guys hurt.
Speaker 1:I would agree with that. It looks like a play, has it? No? So I don't take that excuse for it, I just think it's. You can't stop it. It's kind of one of those plays that's like a guaranteed couple yards because you got like 500 pounds of push behind a guy like Jalen Hurts already, so that definitely gives you a little bit of a boost there.
Speaker 1:I just think it's more of the fact of there's no other play in football where you can put hands directly on a guy, I think, where you can put hands directly on a guy. I think they got to clean that up or they got to let other things go one of the two right, they got to let, and it's everybody's like. Well, the packers did that. You know tucker craft sneak, and they had some guys come up behind him. So why are they the ones complaining? Right, that's the thing.
Speaker 1:If it gets banned for the eagles, it gets banned for the packers too. So it's like they don't care, they just want to see. You know, I guess you would say the rules follow, right, that's where they're kind of and that's where I'm kind of at with it is that if they ban it, I want it because it's not according to the rules of football. I want them to look into the rule book and say this doesn't go along with it, just like I want college basketball to look at the three-second rule on the lane because Zach Eadie I remember him from. Remember Zach Eadie from last year there, ncaa. He stood in the lane for like 15 minutes. He never left the paint and all of a sudden it was like whoa, what happened to the three-second call? And then travel calls just went away this last season. I'm just looking at it and I'm like I just want leagues to follow their own rules. You make a rule, follow it.
Speaker 2:The NBA. What's a travel?
Speaker 1:I don't know what right, I don't even know. But I just want leagues to follow the rules. So the tush-push, that's it's. You know, we're not banning it yet. We're not banning it yet. They'll wait. Maybe when the meeting happens next there in May that one's going to be in Minnesota, I believe when that meeting happens, maybe the next league meeting, they ban it. I don't know. They, the interesting ones overtime change coming for the regular season. So they basically and I kind of like this both teams are going to get the ball. I think that's how it should be. I don't know.
Speaker 1:Everybody's like well, you got to be better than that. You got to be better than that. When Patrick Mahomes is hot and he gets the football in a game he's not going to lose and if he gets the ball first in overtime. We saw it with Baker Mayfield when he lost that coin toss to Patrick Mahomes and he just threw his arms up like crap, like we're not going to touch the football. And you know you hate to see a game end and you don't have a guy with an opportunity. Right, like that playoff game I think it was, was it the Bills and the Chiefs? How can you let a game end like that Like that sucks. That would absolutely suck. Is you know? You? Look at a team like the Bengals. How are they going to win an overtime game with the defense they got Like they ain't going to win nothing, their offense will win them that game.
Speaker 2:So it's like I just look at it and I've always, I've always thought, like, give both teams a chance to get the ball, like I think, what college, college? It's always been that way. And it's no kick, no kickoffs, which I like too, because, okay, same argument can be made right, you're, because you know, on the flip side, okay, you have a defense. But like, if you, if somebody runs a kick, I give them credit. Yes, their blockers got in the way and did their job. The guy maybe took a spin move and took it to the house. But just neutral, put the ball wherever. It's going to be 25, 30, 35. I don't care, just both teams get the ball, both teams get a chance. Yeah, for both fan bases in the game. That's what you want to see. I think. I've always thought that way, I agree.
Speaker 1:I agree 100%. You want both teams to possess the ball and thanks for more interesting football. And then after it, if it still ends up in a tie, it ends up in a tie, like whatever. I don't care about that, but I love the ability of both teams to get the ball. We talked about the touchback rule a little bit there, moving that out to the 35 yard line again, just trying to get more of a kickoff return rate. They want guys to return the football. I get it. I I really don't care, but I get it. That's what they want to do.
Speaker 2:It'll be the 40, though.
Speaker 1:Right, it's like my god, at what point is it going to be? You know when are we going to move the kicker back? Like at some point, I would move the kicker back and just allow. That's that's what I would do. I just don. We keep moving. We keep giving him more yards. Just move the kicker back, see if he can kick it. If he kicks it from his own 20 and puts her through the end zone crap.
Speaker 2:Give him a point or something. At that point Like come on.
Speaker 1:I drug test this guy.
Speaker 1:He's just got a boot, then at that point I don't know that's kind of what I would do. A couple more interesting ones. The replay assist can now help on even more penalties. So they approved the expansion of replay assist. Five new penalties can now be overturned by the booth Hitting a defenseless player, a face mask, horse collar tackle, tripping and roughing, running into the kicker. I like that. We replay everything else. Replay that Because I don't like the Vikings, but that play that they had against the Rams I think it was the Rams where Darnold got like just completely head turned sideways in the end zone and there was nothing. I, I, yes, I like the ability of the. You know we replay everything else. You might as well replay this. I've always said when I watch a plays and it's like they can't, they can't review that, why, why can't they review? They can't review that. Why? Why can't they review?
Speaker 2:that they review this. Why can't they review that?
Speaker 1:choose, yeah, they pick and choose like oh, we can't review that yeah, I agree, it's just it's silly. So I I like that rule there that they're kind of cracking down on that kind of stuff and then first downs are going to be measured electronically so the chain gang is going extinct, they're going away, so that kind of sucks. You know some. Whatever. We're just gonna fire off our chain gang. Now what are they gonna do with all them chains? Like can I have one? Like real talk? Can we like have one? Like can we put one? I can put one down in the studio here. I don't know where I can measure my studio and see how long it is, see if we can fit 10 in here, but I mean for 25 000000,.
Speaker 2:You can have.
Speaker 1:That's what they would do, too. The.
Speaker 1:Packers are going to sell it for like $25,000 or something. They'll be like you want to keep Jordan Love? This is what you got to do. You got to pay for this chain gang crap here. So those are some of the rules that they had.
Speaker 1:There was the interesting one and we're not going to get to it much today because I want to get to the brewers here but they talked about the proposal to change the playoff format, which we had kind of talked about here on the show a few weeks back. If you want to listen to it, go back on the podcast there and definitely listen in. Just search wisconsin sports on the go trade. You find the podcast there wherever you get podcasts. Um, but we talked about that playoff change. We talked about it because we thought it was silly that the vikings were like 14 and 3 and they had to go on the road as a five seat and they had a base goal on the road for the entire playoffs. If they would have made it. And it's like why do you penalize the team for being in a good division? Right, because at one point the Packers could have finished with a great record and they they didn't write, but they could have and the Vikings could have been great and the Lions could have been. It could have been a great have a six seed who's better than a three seed? Yet they have to go play them on the road. So it's like I, you don't like that, you don't like that format. I said it point blank. I said I want to see the nfl make it so you don't always award a team just for winning a division, for getting a top seed in the home game. You give them a playoff spot but you don't necessarily give them a home game. That's where I was kind of at on it. They were not so keen on it at the owner's meeting, but it's going to get. You know they've tabled it right. It wasn't like it was shot down, they just tabled it, said we'll rediscuss this thing in May there, so it could get approved then. So it could get approved then. So they're talking about this again in May. So we'll kind of see what happens there at the next owners meeting there to see what happens. I'm interested in that one Cause I would love that change.
Speaker 1:I hate the AFC South and the NFC South, those two divisions. Yep, you have a team that's got like nine wins and they get a seed that's higher than a 14 win team coming out of the NFC North. That's no win team coming out of the NFC North. That's no. No, I'm done. That's. That's so, so stupid, it's not even funny.
Speaker 1:Be better, be better. Just because you can beat up your division does not make you better than the NFC North team. That's 14 and three and you don't deserve a home game in the playoffs. You deserve a home game in the playoffs when you're 14 and three. I don't care if you have multiple teams in the NFC North who get one through four seeds, because they're just that darn good that year. That's just how it's got to be. That's just how it has to be. You can't penalize a team for being good, just in a good division. So that's kind of where I'm at with that whole thing. So we'll kind of see what happens there. But Aaron the Brewers, the Brewers, let's just rip the band-aid off, right, right, gone off. The brewers got a win last night. That was exciting, right? Everybody, come on now. Come on. You got everybody cheer, everybody, just shut out like that yeah that's what it feels like to win again, oh, my goodness.
Speaker 1:I did say, though, the last time the brewers went oh and four to start a season, it was 2011. They went to the NLCS. Just remember that it was a bad start to a year. There's been a lot of teams who have started out terrible and ended up doing good right, so maybe, just maybe, the Brewers are going back to the NLCS. We can hope, right, not with this pitching staff, but we can hope that, potentially, maybe once they get healthy, that's the biggest thing. And people just drive me nuts because everybody's sitting here and they're like, oh, this guy sucks, right, this guy sucks. I know you were talking about they're talking on Lockdown Brewers podcast there. They were talking about Rodriguez there. Why was Rodriguez pitching? This guy should never be pitching. Blah, blah, blah. He gave up four runs, like. He gave up four runs, four gave up four runs, four innings, six hits, four runs, three strikeouts, one home run, giving up 64 pitches, like. If you think that elvin rodriguez was the reason why the brewers lost that game. Four runs in today's mlb is nothing, nothing. Four runs, is it like? You're gonna blame elvin rodriguez for that loss? Get out of here. Get out of here with that, maybe playing paguero, who gave up four runs when he came in relief because of four nothing lead, and that's not daunting. But an eight nothing lead, that's daunting. That's yeah, yeah, that's. That's over, that's done, done. And your offense made bubik look like he was the greatest pitcher in the world that day.
Speaker 1:So I want to get more into this great name, though great name on. So I want to get more into this Great name, though Great name on there Exactly, booboo's a great name. I want to get more into this Brewer talk. I want to get more into the Brewers, more into this, what I was just talking about there when we come back from the break here. So we'll be right back on the backside of this break here. Welcome back in to Wisconsin Sports on the Go with Trage. I'm your host, trage.
Speaker 1:We went to the break. We were talking about the Brewers and this pitching staff, because this pitching staff so far has been kind of terrible. Let's just go with terrible. That's about as good as I can sugarcoat it. Right.
Speaker 1:You go out to Yankee Stadium. There you give up 15 home runs, 26 runs and 34 hits. That's terrible. You come back home for game one against the Royals. You give up 11 runs and you know, like I was mentioning before the break, it's like you hear these guys and they're like oh, evan Rodriguez, why is he even pitching? Why is he pitching? There's nobody left, like I don't know what. There's nobody left, there is nobody. You know everybody's going to be like well, look down to the, there's got to be somebody, there's got to be somebody. If there was somebody, don't you think the Brewers would have threw somebody else? Well, you don't think they're just like hmm, pat Murphy pulled out his notepad right and he's like huh, this guy's good, this guy's good, this guy's good. Huh, okay, I got down to the 15th page and I see Elvin Rodriguez and I'm like that's the guy I want to throw.
Speaker 2:He just looks at a piece of paper. He's like that guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like he's just sitting there with a blindfold on, like shooting a Nerf gun across the room at a board and he's like wherever it hits, that's the guy who's pitching. Like are you serious right now? Some people I get you want to freak out about a guy. You want to freak out about a guy I don't think elvin, like just rodriguez. I don't think he should be pitching either.
Speaker 1:Like, to be honest with you, I don't think elvin rodriguez should be pitching either he's what pitching in japan last year yeah, like I don't think he should be pitching either, but he wouldn't be if the entire pitching staff wasn't out at one point. You got to look at it. When you looked at the spring spring training, where were we at? Freddie peralta, nester cortez, tobias myers, dl hall, aaron ashby, aaron zavalli those were all your guys. Then myers goes down, then hall goes down, then ashby goes down. Now zavalli's out and quintana, who we signed up. I can't wait to see. He's got to ramp up before he can come back and you're already missing Woody. Woody's. I mean, you're getting some good news out of these guys. I was going to mention that a little bit later here, but you are getting some good news right. Woody's throwing a simulated game. They're expecting a rehab assignment soon. Nick Mears is on a rehab assignment. Tobias Myers is throwing a threw today. So all these guys are slowly working their way back, but we're going to have guys like this pitching for now. Like this is it? This is the guys you're going to get. Who are you going to go get?
Speaker 1:Like, I've looked out there, I've looked and I looked at who's left, right Because I want to see. I was like I'm interested, who is available to be signed as a free agent. Yet you want Rich Hill. He's 45 years old, I think he can throw 80 miles per hour, yet you want him. He's still out there. You don't want that, right. You don't want a guy like I mean. You got James Paxton, he's 36. Alex Woods 34. I think maybe he signed up already. Lance Lynn retired. So the only guy I saw that's left is spencer turnbull.
Speaker 1:I would take spencer turnbull. To be honest with you, I'd take him like I don't know if the brewers, I don't know why they, but the thing with it is is like these guys haven't pitched yet. So if you call spencer turnbull right now which I would still do anyways, like that's, that's besides the point, I would still do that. But if you call him, you don't get him tomorrow. He's not ready. Next week he's going to be probably a couple of weeks before he's ready to go. So it's like what do you do now? Right, I would still, like I said, I would still go get Spencer Turnbull. That's no doubt in my mind Like I am going to pick him up and say dude, do you want a year? Do you want to come pitch for us for a year, two years, whatever, I'm going to get him before anybody else does, because somebody's going to pick him up. He had a fantastic year last year with the Phillies and he's been good, he's been solid.
Speaker 2:The only knock on him is injuries. Injuries aren't a problem.
Speaker 1:I think that's the only reason, probably why he's still out there, yep, yep I, why he's still out there, yep, yep. I think that's probably the one because 2.65 era last year with the phillies, in 17 games, seven starts, that's pretty darn good. That's pretty darn good like solid, like better than what you got better helvin rodriguez. But at this point I mean, like I said, you're not going to be able to bring in a guy who's going to fill in tomorrow and it's not going to be next week and it's probably going to be a couple weeks. Right, you got to figure out the contract first. You got to get him down to Arizona. You got to let him pitch down there. He's got to pitch simulated games. He's got to ramp up like Quintana is right now. So you're going to basically put them on the same timetable as Quintana's on right now. So you'd probably say he'd be available maybe towards the end of April, which then you're getting to the point where Aaron Savalli is coming back. You're getting to the point where this you know, you're gonna have possibly tobias myers, you're gonna possibly have a guy like brandon woodruff coming back, you're gonna have quintana back, right. So then it's like okay, well, where are you gonna find your happy medium it I? I'm still all in for signing spencer turnbull, but I'm just like nobody you're gonna go get right now is gonna be ready to go. They're not ready to go right now. I mean people. I saw more people talking about trevor bauer again. I'm like everybody's back in the trevor bauer train and it's like, well, at this point I mean, why not screw it? We got elvin rodriguez. Might as well pitch trevor bauer. See what happens. I don't know like. It's like you're not gonna find somebody at this point to come in and fix the rotation right now. You got to survive with what you got until everybody comes back, which you're hoping. Everybody comes back. They come back healthy, right, everybody comes back. They come back healthy, right, knock on wood, they come back healthy. They're ready to go, they're healthy, they're feeling good. You just have to survive. You have to survive April. That's where we're at. I don't know how, just like last night there, they got that win.
Speaker 1:Chad Patrick, I don't know whoever would have had. Did you have that in your bingo card? That Chad Patrick was going to pitch the Brewers first scoreless, first inning of all season long? No, I didn't think it would take five games for the Brewers not to give up a run in the first inning. I thought they were going to give up a home run in every first inning of every game, after the first two of the Yankees, so I'm surprised that it took this long for them to have a scoreless inning. But they shut out the royals.
Speaker 1:It was a dominant pitching effort by the milwaukee brewers in this, uh, second game of the series against royals in that second game of series against royals. So I I love that. I love that effort that chad patrick was able to give to the brewers, but now I mean his first start too. So that was fantastic, like the young fella just coming up from the minors this season and delivering, delivering in a moment. You needed that. You needed that because freddie didn't give you a great outing, cortez definitely didn't, so valley didn't, and then elvin rodriguez did. So it's like the bullpen needed a day off. They needed you to avoid them and chad batrick, he did that. He helped avoid that bullpen.
Speaker 1:Four and two-thirds, three hits, three walks, five strikeouts Love to see it. Great outing, great outing, and then Koenig, uribe, pajams and McGill boom slam the door, done with it. That's your combo and if you can get to that point, you're golden. That was a great outing, a great game. Brewers hitting got going. Contreras is still kind of a dud in the middle of that lineup right now. I don't know what the heck's going on with him, but Contreras is kind of a dud. Churrio finally got himself in. Yelich hit a bomb. That was good to see Yelich hit a bomb, but he finally got a hit.
Speaker 2:He's up to 125 on that batting average, Him and Cont Hasse. Man Hasse got it going.
Speaker 1:Hasse got it going.
Speaker 1:That's the guy I want to talk about. Eric Hasse, I don't care, he's not great, he's not a great baseball player, but he always does something to help this baseball team. Last year there was multiple times where he had a big home run for the Brewers. In a big moment he'd step up with a. The bats weren't cooking, hasse would get a hit. H the bats weren't cooking, haas would get a hit. Haas would hit a home run. It's just. Haas is just a steady guy. He's a steady guy and right now I got to be honest with you.
Speaker 1:I've seen a lot of people blaming pitch calling on Contreras. Right now. I don't want to say that's a complete problem, because I think pitching in general has been a problem with location, but I think location calling has been a problem. I think pitch calling has been a problem. I think pitch calling has been a problem. Is that contrarious? I'm not going to say completely that somebody isn't in his ear telling him what to call, but if it is contrarious calling these games right now, I don't like it Because, like I said, I talked to Aaron at the commercial break there we were talking about Haas and that and I said I'd be interested to see Haas catch for Freddie tomorrow and we recorded, pre-recorded, so we haven't seen Freddie pitch yet. But I said I'd be interested to see Haas catch for Freddie, see how Freddie does. If Freddie pitches lights out, then I'd be like, hmm, I'd be interested to see Haas catch for Nestor Cortez, see what happens, right, because I think Contr contreras, he loves the hard stuff, he loves calling for the hard stuff. That don't always work right. We saw that. I saw the percentage usage of some of these, like the hard stuff you guys were throwing there and between cortez and freddy and those guys and how many home runs they gave up, and it was like maybe you should have stuck to the breaking ball, maybe just a little bit more.
Speaker 1:So right now, with this brewers team, this is the biggest question. This is the biggest question. This is what we got to answer here. Are we going to start losing our minds? Because, goodness, I got everybody across social media, everybody out there. It's like this sucks, they suck, this is it. That's it. Blah, blah, market announcer. Sell the team. This that blah. I got everybody across social media, everybody out there. It's like this sucks, they suck, this is it. That's it, blah, blah, market. And answer Sell the team, this, that blah, blah, everything else, and it's like settle, dial back. We're okay, we're four games into a season. Now we're five. Right, we got one win. We're one in four and four, we're five games in. We're gonna be six games. As you guys listen to this tomorrow, I don't know the outcome yet, so wait and see. Maybe we're gonna be one in five, maybe we're two and four. It's an early, it's, it's a young season. Yet, guys, like it's young, there's 150, some games left here, right, hundred and what? 57, maybe after tomorrow, yeah, 15, whatever it is.
Speaker 1:I don't want to do math right now, but whatever it is, that's a lot of games. What happens if they just rattle off 150 straight wins? I don't know, it could be something crazy. We're sitting here and we're freaking out like the Brewers have nothing and I hear guys that are like well, this is the least exciting Brewers team I've ever seen, and this and that and everything else in between, and it's like guys, it just started. Half the team isn't even here yet. Woodruff's still coming, tobias Myers is hurt, quintana's still coming Like we're waiting for guys to come off the injured list. Just wait, pump the brakes for five seconds. If I have to eat my words on this, I'm going to eat my words. The Brewers are fine. They're fine.
Speaker 1:The offense is stunk to start when your top four guys in your order there between Hoskins and Yelich and Contreras and Churrio in that first series there completely stunk and Churrio struck out like what five times in the opening day. It kind of was a sucky start. Your offense was struggling, your offense was struggling, your pitching was struggling, everything sucked. So they just had to settle in and hopefully, last night's game. Hopefully you guys saw a win today. We saw a win today, right, hopefully we saw a win today. We're all feeling good about it again. That's the hope, right, that's the hope there is. We're all feeling great about Brewer baseball here when we come back next Wednesday there. So, aaron, let's hit them up before we get out of here. Aaron's got our fact of the day. Aaron, what do we got?
Speaker 2:Yeah, all the way back at 1792, the coinage act was enacted in the United States, establishing the first mint which I've actually been to in Philadelphia and the federal regulation of coins. So I mean pretty cool Right Like that's. So I mean pretty cool right Like they print money there. So I mean kind of cool to see it.
Speaker 1:And that was a long time ago, that was a long time ago that was a long darn time I heard that it costs like three pennies to make one penny, so I heard that there is something to that.
Speaker 1:There's something weird like that, something weird. So I mean like wow, wow. So hey, I mean, if you missed any of the show tonight there, make sure you check us across podcast site, apple, spotify, wherever you find podcasts you can find us out there. Just search Wisconsin Sports on the go with Trage. You can find us across social media Just search Wisco Sports on the go with Trage. But with that, for Aaron and myself this has been Wisconsin Sports on the go with Trage. Thank you all for tuning in. We'll catch you guys back.