Wisconsin Sports on the go with Trag

Greg Gard is transforming the Badgers through aggressive portal moves while the Brewers battle injuries

Tragen Episode 317
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how we doing everybody and welcome into wisconsin sports. Time to go with trage. I'm your host, trage. It is wednesday, april 9th is it the 9th or, holy crap, april 9th already here. The college basketball season wrapped up.

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We I mean the badgers have been hot in the news. So I really want to touch into the badgers today because we've seen the Badgers making moves left and right in the transfer portal, losing guys. Right, there is a guy that I did not expect to leave that left in the transfer portal. So I want to get to that. That was big news yesterday for the Badgers there Outside of, I mean, the transfer portal ads, because the ads that Greg Gard's been pulling in he's crossing. I had a checklist here. I told you guys this week I wanted to go over my needs, my what I think the badgers need in the transfer portal. He's crossing off a lot of those. So I can't wait to talk about badgers today. We're gonna get to that.

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We have, uh, badger football. I want to talk about that a little bit. Badger football I saw vince beagle on twitter talking about badger football a little bit. So I want to touch in with a little bit of that. Uh, we got Packer talk. We're going to have, hopefully, a couple of special guests coming on tonight here on the show, per Packer time for a little Bucks talk here. So we're going to have a little bit of that going on. Goodness, we have all kinds of stuff happening and, of course, the Brewers. Right, of course the Brewers. We're going to get to Aaron. Sadly, aaron is not here right now. He will be, he will be right, he will be. He got tied up at work for a little bit so he's gonna be late. Uh, jumping on tonight here. So right now we're just gonna, we're gonna touch with what I thought was the biggest news in wisconsin sports in general coming into this.

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Uh, in the end of the show today, I guess, right, and that was the brewers, they went out and made a move and this is a move that kind of got everybody talking and it was an interesting move, right, I didn't expect it. So the brewers went in. I mean, most everybody's gonna know about this trade by now. Right, it's wednesday already happened. Right, it happened over there. On monday the brewers traded for quinn priester there from the uh boston red sox and they sent out their joffrey rodriguez number seven prospect in the brewer system and I mean a pretty goodffrey Rodriguez number seven prospect in the Brewer system and I mean a pretty good outfield prospect right Number seven prospect in your system there.

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He started out the year for the Timber Rattlers. I believe he's five for 12 at this very moment down there with Timber Rattlers. So he's, I mean, started out pretty well for this Timber Rattlers team Five for 12 with a double and a triple in his first three games there with the Wisconsin Timber Riders team 5-12 with a double and a triple in his first three games there with the Wisconsin Timber Riders. So pretty darn good start there for Rodriguez. He actually already earned a top signing bonus $1.5 million there in 2023 when he came in in that international class there and made it to high eight to begin 2025. So pretty quick jump there for Rodriguez. They also sent over the number 33 pick. It was a comp, a pick that they had, so they sent that over to the Red Sox there and then also a player to be named later.

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So I don't know, like I said, nobody knows who that player to be named later is, but I've seen a lot of people and they're like I can't say that the majority of people are excited about this trade. Right, I'm not going to say I was, because I remember Quinn Priester with the Pirates and all I remember was the last highlight I remember seeing of that was Sal Frelick hitting a bomb off him. So, like I don't have many good memories of Quinn Priester from what I see, but what I'm going, and I'm going to take a stab at it from a different angle because it doesn't excite a lot of people. Right, it doesn't excite a lot of people, but bros, make a move like this. I don't think this was a move because you know, we we look at the injuries right, the injuries left, and right now, nestor Cortez, on there, we have one one starter from what we training with Freddy Peralta. You know, freddy Peralta, nestor Corte, you're going to have a whole boatload right and it ended up. Now the only guy you have left is Freddy. And then I mean you have Chad Patrick out there and Alexander's throwing and Rodriguez we hope we don't have to watch him throw another inning Right. But you look at these guys and you're like, okay, what, what? This? This move I don't think was to replace an injury. I think this move was.

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I think they like Quinn Priester, I'll be honest with you and you got like, if I'm gonna be honest with anybody, if I trust one system to fix a pitcher to figure a guy out and if they can't figure him out then he's a lost cause. It's the Brewers. It's the Brewers. It's Chris Hook. It's the Brewers. We've seen it over and over again.

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Burns struggled at one point. You guys remember that. I mean after his first year there he started to struggle a little bit. And the Brewers, I mean they worked with him, they got him settled in and he was good, fantastic. After that the Brewers have worked wonders with pitchers coming into their system.

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So I understand where everybody's got you know freaking out about. Oh yo, first off, nobody really even knew who the heck you'll free Rodriguez. Everybody's freaking out Cause they're like oh my, we just traded the number seven prospect. You didn't know who this number seven prospect was. I would take a shot in the dark. Right, I'm gonna take a shot in the dark. 77% of you did not know who youofri Rodriguez was before this trade happened. The only I would say that the percentage that did they probably are from Appleton or around there and they go and watch the Wisconsin Timber Rattlers that would be my guess, or you know, they study, like some people study, the minor league system. Right, there's a couple of different ones, but I'm going to go with. The majority of the people that I've seen freaking out on social media had no idea who this guy was. All they know is a number, that he's number seven. He's the number seven prospect. So we're going to freak out. What was it?

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I mean, honestly, end of the day, maybe you could have got more right, sure, maybe you could have got more right. Sure, maybe he could have got more for a guy like joe free rodriguez. Maybe he could have, you know, went out and wait until the trade deadline and then go and use him and somebody else, somebody else, and go get a big bat or whatever. Right now, guys, teams aren't trading pitchers. You want to know why? Because nobody is out, mathematically out of the mix right now. For anything, teams are still competing. So at this very moment, you're not making a trade for, you're not making a trade for any pitcher that's worthwhile with prospects, you're not.

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So when I look at this train that happened here, I boil it down to matt arnold and the brewers and I mean, and he goes. I'm gonna talk about what he said here, because he did have a statement on it, but matt arnold and the brewers, what he said here because he did have a statement on it, but matt arnold and the brewers, they just like quinn priester, they I mean matt arnold mentioned it it is uh. When he was talking about it there he said, uh, we really think this move helps us now and in the future. Our scouts have, like priester, going back to high school and he said the injuries weren't the only factor in this acquisition. So he did state basically, the injuries were a factor, but they weren't a factor. He thinks that this, this is going to help them now and in the future. And I gotta be honest with you guys. I'll be honest with you, matt arnold, between him, you know, david stearns, what those guys have done for this organization bringing in pieces, fitting pieces, in finding ways to keep the clubhouse meshed, whatever it is. These guys have done a fantastic job.

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So why do we immediately jump to? We always we do. We do this as fans, we do this as fans. We immediately look at stats and we look at this and we look at that and we're like this guy is going to be terrible. That's our immediate conclusion. We jump to because, oh yeah, he struggled with the pirates. Not many guys have done well with the Pirates.

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The Pirates, I'll be honest with you when you stink, when you have a stink team, when your team stinks, it's hard to pitch for that team. You have no drive, you have no fire. When you pitch for a crappy team, it's hard to come to the ballpark every day and be like, if I go six innings of, I have to go six innings and pitch one to maybe zero run baseball to actually even have a chance to win this game. That's hard to do. That's hard to walk in and do that and have that mindset. You're a pitcher. This game is mental. Three-quarters of the game of baseball is mental.

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And yet we sit here and we're like, ah, just because he sucked with the Pirates, he's going to suck with the Brewers. Just because he sucked with the Red Sox a little bit, right, a little bit, he's barely with the Red Sox. He had a couple appearances with the Red Sox there last year and I know, goodness gracious, I know he's got 6.23 ERA. I'm not saying this guy's been good. He has not been good Like I will be the first to admit he has not been good 6.23 ERA, 41 walks, 69 strikeouts in 99 and two-thirds innings. Over his minor league career he's 26-17, 3.61 ERA, 87 games, 84 starts, 428 strikeouts in 408 and two-thirds innings. So I mean, the stats aren't really pretty. I will say that the stats are not pretty, but the Brewers have done a lot more with less.

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Be honest with you, and this I seriously don't think this was a move that the Brewers were like this is a guy we're going to bring him in and he is guaranteed he's going to carry us. No, that's not what this move was. The Brewers see something in Quinn Priester. I don't know what. To be honest with you. I don't know what to be honest with you. I don't know what. I know he's got a decent change up. He's got a couple of decent breaking balls he's got. I mean, it's not like he's got nothing, he's got stuff like he's got stuff that works. It's just. Does he get in the right mindset, with the right coach, with the right pitching coach, with the right staff, with the right catcher, with the right system in the right ballpark? Does it all come together right? Because apparently somebody thinks that he's got talent, right?

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Alex Cora um, I saw what he said there. He said he's a good kid and he, you know, went out. Alex Cora he said he did everything we asked him to in the offseason. He came to spring training with a lot stronger. He had a good spring training. But this is where we're at right now, basically saying he started in the minors, we had to move him out. That's what he's basically saying by that move there for them. But all in all, I'm going to be honest with you.

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This move that the Brewers made Yofri Rodriguez the number seven prospect, he was solid. He, yofri Rodriguez, the number seven prospect, he was solid. He's good. I think he's going to be good. But at the same time, where were you going to put him? Like, let's be real, who are you going to move? Joriel Mitchell Frelick? Which one are you going to move out of the way? None of them, right? None of them. Blake Perkins You're not moving guys, right? You're talking three, four years down the road. He's in high A right now. How soon do you think he's going to be at the big league level?

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The pick I mean they traded the number 33 pick but they still have five picks in the top 100. I mean they have the 20th pick, they have the 32nd pick because they got that for Willie Adonis, so they pick right before the 33rd. They have the 59th pick, the 68th and the 94th Right and draft picks. I mean, honestly, the MLB draft. I enjoy seeing like, hey, this guy went number one After the first pick of the draft, maybe a couple picks, the rest of them. You're not going to see that guy for a long time. For a long time. You hear his name there. There it's gone for a while. Unless you watch minor league baseball with passion, you, you lose guys like that.

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So this move the brewers made in hindsight here, let's get the hindsight this move the brewers made, did it make them worse? No, could it make them better? Sure, if they can figure out Quinn Priester, sure, he's a young pitcher, I believe you, Goodness gracious, he's still young, as far as I know, 24. He's 24 years old, 24, right-hander. I mean, he's young yet. So there's a lot of developing For a young age being a guy who's already been to the bigs. He was in the bigs already in 2023 with the Pirates. There he had 10 games he pitched in and then he pitched again in 2024 for them there and then he had the Red Sox last season. He's a young pitcher who's got some experience at the big league level and that's huge.

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So now it's who knows, do the Brewers even put him at the big league level start? Probably because they have injuries galore. Right, they probably have to. But I mean, outside of that, maybe he starts at the minor league. They send him down to the minor league level. Once all these guys come back, they try to build him up, get him ready to go. We've been playing with Aaron Ashby. We might as well play with Quinn Priester now too, right, I mean I don't think it's a really high risk right now. It's not a low risk, high reward if they can figure him out. So we'll wait and see.

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I mean I don't I'm not going to say I love the move but I don't hate it, like this isn't a move that I think is going to. They weren't making a move that was going to try and put them over top right now and I don't think there was a move out there that they were going to make right now. I think they should go get Spencer Turnbull. I've said that I think they should go get Spencer Turnbull, but as of right now, I don't think they're making a move. Nobody's trading their best pitchers right now Nobody. So you're not making a move for an ace. So what are you going to do? What do you want? What are you going to go grab? Right, I guess that's the question that Brewer fans have to answer themselves.

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Everybody who's freaking out right now about Quinn Priester coming to the Brewers. What direction are you asking the Brewers to go to? Where do you want them to go and find a guy right now? Because the minors are pretty slim pickings right now for the Brewers and outside of that, no team, unless if you want to give an arm and a leg, which is what the Brewers did just for Quinn Priester. Right, we're freaking out about this package. What kind of deal do you think you have to put together for an actual ace or an actual number three in the rotation, because nobody right now is looking to move a guy unless you give them you, basically, in your house. You want to give me your house? Sure, give me your house, but right now that's it's not realistic. It's not realistic that the Brewers are going to make some of these moves, right. So I mean this move right here. We'll wait and see. Maybe it ends up with something. Maybe it ends up with a flop. Whatever it does, matt Arnold has faith. The Brewers like them. We'll see what happens there. So, hey, we're off fast and running there. We're talking Brewers. We got more to get to on Wisconsin Sports on the Go.

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Welcome back into Wisconsin Sports on the Go with Trage. I'm your host, trage. We're coming back here on this Wednesday, april 9th. What a Wednesday it has been. What a weekend has been. Holy cats, we're going to get into it here. The Badgers, wisconsin's men's basketball team, greg Gardner Goodness Just keeps on making move after move there.

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So right away, before we get over to the badgers there. I want to get to the best and worst. Right, because we start a new segment right. Two hours now, don, two hours. The show is now, if you want to catch us on the backside of that first hour break there. But we got new segments here on the show and the first segment we got for the night here best and worst of the week. So we got our best and worst of the week, my worst of the week, and this is one there's.

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I stuck with the Brewers with this one. I stuck with the Brewers. I stuck with the Brewers with this one. I stuck with the Brewers. My worst of the week for the Brewers.

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Number one's got to be the injuries. Goodness gracious, I have to say it has got to be the injuries for the Brewers because this pitching staff I mean when I saw that Nestor Cortez was now out after he came back and pitched a fantastic game after getting just shelled against the Yankeeses and just comes back, pitches a fantastic game. And then I find out we all go like he's hurt, are you serious? Right now he's hurt. It's like what else? What could go wrong now for the Milwaukee Brewers? Right, who else could get hurt? Freddie, like, is it going to be Freddie next, like, knock on wood, right, freddie? Is it going to be Freddie next? Knock on wood, right? My hope is, and that's going to be everybody's hope, right? This is just the beginning of the season and everything. Once these guys start coming back, like Myers, like Woodruff Kitana is supposed to be back I believe it's next Friday. He's going to be eligible, so that's exciting. Once Cortez comes back, once these guys come back, that they're ready and they stay healthy for the rest of the season knock on wood right A couple of times there that they stay healthy and they stay consistent throughout the season.

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My worry is that this is not more to come right. That's sometimes some. There's some seasons right, and again, knock on the wood there. There's some seasons for teams where you ask yourself why did this team struggle in 2025? Why couldn't they take off? And everybody's like well, their pitching staff got all beat up all season long and that was the story, because every season for a team, it seems like it has those stories. What went wrong that caused this? What went wrong for this? I hope that that's not.

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The storyline for the milwaukee brewers is that we look back on this year and it's like it wasn't that matt arnold didn't go out and sign these guys, right, everybody wishes he would have went out and signed pitchers now at this point, right, but it's not that the offense couldn't do it, it's that, honestly, you didn't have the pitchers, you didn't have anybody healthy and that's where you ran into your problems. So that's where I'm kind of I'm kind of at with the milwaukee brewers right now. Is that's my nervousness. Is that that's going to continue. Now I I'm not gonna word right, so hoping it's not, but we're going to keep an eye on that one. So injuries have definitely been my worst and it continues to be the worst of the week there.

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Also, I got Yelich, contreras and Hoskins. Yelich and Contreras I mean Contreras is even worse, but Contreras is batting a whopping .097 right now on the season there and I don't think he even has an RBI. No, he does not have an RBI, does not have an RBI. He's got three heads on the season. Yelich has four, not much better, and Hoskins has three. So between all them guys right now it has not been a pretty start. Has not been a pretty start in the slightest. Now at least Hoskins has got a couple RBIs there, yelich has got five, so I mean at least they're knocking in

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guys. But if you want to look at this team and you're like, well, what are they missing yet? Right, because outside of the pitching, what are they missing? Right, Well, they, they just went off and everybody's, you know, everybody's still freaking out about this team. Like you know, there's oh, they're still not good. There's not good guys. Like they just won five out of six there and Yelich is hitting not worth a darn, gutierrez isn't hitting worth a darn and they're still back up to 500. Still playing pretty good darn baseball. Now, right, so I mean we'll wait and see with that one. But those guys are my worst of the week so far. Hopefully they start to pick it up here with the Rockies there in that series and then moving forward there for the Brewers because they can definitely use those guys heating up there. My best of the week I'm going to go Sal Frelick and Bryce

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Durang. Sal Frelick leads the Brewers. He leads them in average right now on base percentage 452. He's got 14 hits, 378 batting average right now. He has been nothing but fantastic for the Brewers here. I believe his OPS is at 912 right now. He has been huge 17 total bases. Love to see it. Love to see it

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there. Jackson Churrio too, I mean, I don't want to leave him out. You know 295 batting average there, 880 OPS, 13 hits. He's got nine RBIs, three home runs, 26 total bases. He's been fantastic. It's just the strikeout numbers out, numbers five in the opening game does not help, but 15 in total here to start the year. So we'll see if that starts to turn around there. Bryce terang has his hitting streak still intact. So that's exciting there. That's exciting as of right now, as we're recording, still has an attack. We'll see what happens. But exciting stuff there. Bryce terang has been hot to start the year too. So the young guys are kind of carrying the, carrying this team right now while they're waiting for contrareras, yellich Hoskins, those guys to show up to the party and see what happens and hopefully get this pitching staff healthy

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there. So my next best of the week and that's where I'm going to lead into the Badgers here Greg Gard, gregory. Gregory Gard is cooking in the portal. He is cooking in this portal right now. He signed up. These last ads have been huge in my eyes. So I went into this and I said and this was, this was my list and Eric could double check that when he comes on later here, but this was my list from last week. I didn't get to it, but it was where does this Wisconsin team need to look in the transfer portal? That's what I labeled it. I said a true point guard. I said a true point guard. I said this Badger team needs a true point guard. What do they do for me? They go out and they grab a true point guard out of the transfer

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portal. There, boyd coming in for this Badger team. He's from San Diego State. He's fantastic. He is fantastic and it's a move that we all were kind of waiting for, because we heard about it and it was, you know, just a matter of when's it going to happen, right, nick Boyd was, he's been in the portal and the Badgers were rumored and they got the crystal ball prediction and they were all over it and they're like, oh, he's going to come, he's going to be there, and it's like, okay, well, when, when is he gonna sign? Because I keep hearing this and there's other teams that are still in the mix, right, so they're still talking to him. They're still talking to him and I was like just get, get it done, get it done, get it done right. I just want to see him in madison. I want to get this guy in

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here. Nick boyd's an experienced guy. He was with florida atlantic when they went to the uh final four there. He was with them there for three years underneath the dusty may. So he's experienced with dusty may too. But I mean he's an experienced guy, been around the block with florida atlantic. There was a big contributor for florida atlantic in those couple good seasons. In that season they went to the final four. He had he's averaging about 10 points a game. I mean he's close up to 10 points a game, about 9. And then the season after that he was averaging about 10 points a game. And then this last season for San Diego State there he was averaging 13.4 points per game, 3.9 rebounds. You're talking about a guy with four assists per

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game. He's an experienced true point guard and that's what I wanted. That was my number one dad. I was like go get me a true point guard, bam. There he is Now assuming. This is what we're assuming, right? John Blackwell's coming

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back. There's your backcourt. That's a pretty darn good backcourt. That is a pretty darn good backcourt, if you ask me, because you also, along with Nick Boyd, you want to talk about adding some depth there in that backcourt. You added some guys. You added Andrew Rode there, the Wisconsin native. That was exciting. That was

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exciting. I was glad to see him from Milwaukee there be able to come back and play for the Badgers there in his last season. I believe it's his last season here, after spending a couple years. He was with St Thomas and then he ended up with Virginia for a couple and now he's going to go to Madison. I don't know if he's got a COVID year, I don't know how COVID years work or any of that kind of crap, but another guy to add into that backcourt experience wing a guard put there, but a 6'6 guard, he's a big guard. Right, he's a big guard. He can get after you. I love what this guy brings to the

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table. I was watching a little bit of his highlight tapes there. You know, last season for Virginia, about 10 points a game, about three rebounds, four assists and he shot about 43% from the field. That's pretty darn good numbers, pretty darn good numbers there from Andrew Rode. He actually from two seasons ago to this last season, progressed well. Two seasons ago was averaging four a game there with Virginia this last season, averaging 10. He was also he got those minutes up about six minutes more per game

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there. But I love the shooting too. 41% from three there on the season and then that nice 43% from the field on the season. All those numbers that I'm reading off. It's like love it, love to see it, love to see it from a guy like this. I'm reading off is like love it, love to see it. Love to see it from a guy like

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this. I mean Wisconsin guy, come back home defensing and shooting. The defense and the shooting ability are what stick out to me. He's got some range. He has got some range. I think he had, if I'm not mistaken, he had a couple of deep ones when I was watching that highlight tape there. But he is an impressive shooter and he's an impressive shooter and he's an impressive passer. He's an impressive passer too, which I think is going to play very well because of a couple of the other guys that the badge got right. You already got I mean, think about it, you got nolan winter in the room already. You have john blackwell. You're gonna have jinnicky back right. We're gonna talk about xavier amos. He doesn't. He's not coming back at the very moment. I maybe, just maybe, they talk him back into coming back, but I don't know what's going to happen

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there. Xavier Amos is in the transfer portal, but I look at this guy great playmaking ability, great at passing the basketball, very good finisher. He's great at getting downhill and getting to the rim, which is huge. Right, you got to have guys who can get to the rim and especially, score at the rim. He's a 59% shooter from the left elbow. I found that impressive Like 59% shooter from the left elbow. I found that impressive Like 59% shooter from the left elbow. Somebody went through. They did all the stats on that and I saw that somebody did it and they're like he's a 59% shooter from the left elbow. I was like, yeah, yeah, get this guy to left elbow, he's going to knock her down. Right, he's going to knock her down. So I found that impressive when I was reading that

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there. But the big thing that I watched over and over and over again was his finishing ability and not just his ability to avoid contact but to draw contact and score through contact. That is an underlying something that guys kind of they don't look at anymore because it's not a huge art in the game of basketball. Dunking is huge, but the game is transpiring. I mean, how many guys actually shoot a mid-range anymore? But Andrew Rode's pretty good for the mid-range, so that's something that I hope the Badgers can harp and they can stick with and I really do see him benefiting from in this offense there. So Andrew Rode coming in Love what I'm seeing out of him and then you bring in a guy by the name of Austin Rapp. Austin Rapp they're coming over from

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Portland. I think this is a fantastic ad. I think he's a fantastic ad. The thing that he does not answer. And this is where as I was just mentioning before my list of things that I needed there a physical big, a physical big. I don't think he's a physical

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big. From what I've seen, from what I've watched with Austin Rapp here, he's a perimeter guy. I don't want to say he's like a Danny Wolf kind of guy, but he almost plays like it. He is very good, actually he's very good. He's 6'10", 230 pounds. He's very good at playing off the bounce, like driving, getting downhill, getting a screen, being the guy who's not the screener, but getting screened right. He's pretty good

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there. So when I look at a guy like Austin Raptor, it's like, okay, you answered my question of I need shooters, I need scores, but he didn't answer my question of I need a physical big, I need a guy who I can put into that post area and he can play body. You didn't answer that question. I don't know. I I'm hoping that nolan winter, can you know, beef up and he can be that guy. I'm hoping this, you know, austin rap here can be that guy. But what, from what I've seen out of both those guys, they aren't rim protectors, they aren't dominant defensive presence. Right, I watch some of these teams like a team like Florida or Houston Duke. Right, they all have rim protectors. Big fellas dominate the post area, can get after it down in the post area, but defensively they can get after you. That's something the Badgers need to answer, if you ask me. So we got a little bit more Badger talk on the backside of the break here. We got Badger talk and then we got a whole slew of things to get to. So we'll be right back here on the backside of this

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there. So I went to the break and we were talking about the badgers. They got, I mean, the transfer portal has been kind I I have loved the ads for the badgers. So don't get me wrong when I'm saying you know when I, when I'm not talking down about it or anything like that, I'm just saying what I think the badgers need, right, what they need. One need, one of my biggest things and, like I said, going to the break was a big, physical big. Because what I think the Badgers lack and I think they lacked in the BYU game was a tough presence on the inside. First half shots weren't falling. There was games this year where the Badgers' shots weren't falling from the perimeter and when their shots aren't falling they don't really have an answer. There was no answer and I think that got them into trouble Because they couldn't say, hey, steve, and I love Steven Crowell, but they couldn't say, hey, steve, go get me one. He just wasn't that

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guy. I mean you look at over the years there, um of dominant bigs, right, zach Eadies, the most recent one, right and the big 10 there. But Kofi Colbert right From Illinois there. Uh, just thinking back, I mean I don't want to. I really didn't like this guy at all. But Hunter Dickinson had some good years there with Michigan. There were some good

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bigs. Across from Frank Kaminsky with the Badgers, there were some good bigs. Steven Crowell was a decent big. He never took that next step. He was always a good three-point shooter. He was always on the inside. But he always went through moments where it was well, there's a double team there. Okay, he passes out, that's good and all fine and dandy. But the next time down they wouldn't send a double. And he's getting man-to-man and for some reason he kicks it out and you're sitting there like what are you doing? You're not even looking to score. Too many times I watched that, we watched that. It's like okay, well, if you're not going to try and score on the inside, we're not going to have a post presence. And if we don't have a post presence, it takes away anything we want to do because we got to have something on the inside. If all they see you as a passer on the inside, you're not a threat. You're not a threat to

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score. I I want the. I don't think you're not going to go. I don't think you need to go out and get a big that's going to be your leading scorer night in and night out. I don't think you need that. I want a Chris Voigt. Remember a couple years ago that Chris Voigt, good defender, could score it? But a good defender, that's a guy I want. I want a Chris Boyd, a physical big who can get after it. Get after guys defensively, because this last season Stephen Crowell half the games wasn't even needed offensively. You just needed him

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defensively. If you have guys like Nick Boyd, like an Austin Rapp, a Nolan Winter at times, whatever it is, whatever the rotation looks like, right, you bring back your Blackwell, you know, whatever the rotation is going to look like, whoever's in there, you're going to have scores Like there are a lot of good scores on this team From what I'm seeing what they're building right now even like young guys like Kings are coming in there from the pier You're going to have good scores. You need a guy on the inside who's just going to be a presence. Maybe you can score it a little bit right. Maybe give you, you know, six to ten points a game Nothing crazy. But when I need a rebound, he's getting me that point. When I need a guy to get me a stop a shot, I need a shot blocker. When I need a this guy, you know his team keeps driving downhill and they keep getting to the rim and I could put this guy in here and he's going to defend the hoop. That's a guy I need. That's the guy I want. I want shot

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blockers. And I look at austin rap and I think you know he averaged one and a half blocks game at portland. I don't know. You know he's a's a decent enough defender, but he's not. It's not his forte. He loves playing the outside right, loves playing the outside. He's a, he's an athletic guy but he loves playing the outside. I want a guy who's going to get down and dirty for me on the inside. So that's kind of where I'm looking right

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now. That's where I'm looking and I'm like, if the Badgers are going to make one more move, I think you can make a couple more. I'm not saying they have to stop with that. There's a couple other guys. I've seen a couple other guys in the transfer portal there. I wish they would have gotten Buchanan from Virginia there. He was also in the transfer portal. He went in the same time as Road did there and he's a big guy. Big guy there. I think he went to iowa state, if I'm not mistaken, could have. I don't remember. Iowa state doesn't really concern me and he's already picked up on the transit portal. But there are different guys that are still

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available. I don't know if you need to go out and, just like you don't need to go out and look for the hottest commodity, find a good guy. You're looking for bench guys, you're looking for role players. I think you can find role players here. I like the look. Actually, I shouldn't say I like it. I love the look of this Badgers

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team. The surprising one was Xavier Amos, because I stinking wrote it down in my notes. I told you, I'm going through my notes here and I put it down. If Amos can take a step forward, that would be a huge addition Because I'm looking at what the Badgers need to add. If Xavier Amos took a step forward, like I thought he was doing in the Big Ten tournament because, honestly, watching him in that Big Ten tourney, I thought Xavier Amos was definitely taking a step forward, playing a lot better basketball, smarter basketball, on both ends of the floor. I thought there was times where Xavier Amos he would play well offensively but his defense was like it was like he was lost. I don't know what happened Like it was like he was lost. I don't know what happened. And then, when it came to the Big Ten tournament and a little bit into that tournament, there I thought he kind of turned it on for

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this. Wisconsin team Played well against UCLA, played well against Michigan State. Michigan did not score, only played in eight minutes that game. So it's not like he had a lot of minutes there for this Badger team, but I mean he produced well down the stretcher and started to kind of put it together and I was like, yes, finally, finally, xavier amos is putting it together. We're going to see him take that next step next season in a bigger role. Right, because when I look at him, or what we saw from him, I thought he was going to get. He's probably averaging about. I don't know what his minutes average was last season there, but probably, I would say was around eight, nine, yep, nine, nine is where he was at. I mean, he wasn't averaging a lot of minutes, but I think he was going to

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increase. Carter Gilmore's gone. That was a big thing was? You had Gilmore and Gilmore took a lot of the minutes from Xavier Amos because Gilmore's playing so well. Gilmore turned it on offensively so you didn't really need Xavier Amos offensively because Gilmore was doing everything that Amos was doing. So it's like you didn't need it. So his services were kind of

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limited. But now that Gilmore's gone, I thought Xavier Amos was going to step into a bigger role. This move doesn't. It's weird Because I don't know where he's going to go. I don't know if he's going to get somewhere better than Wisconsin, maybe, just maybe. But I honestly I thought Wisconsin was a pretty good fit for him and I honestly thought next season we could see Xavier almost fit into a larger role in Madison. It's not like Greg guard was limiting what he was able to do or besides. I mean a minute restriction, right, not letting him play a lot of minutes, but outside of that I mean I look at everything else underneath the blue moon shooting, everything like that. It's not so. It's kind of just wondering where, where he's at, what's going on, right, so we'll wait and see. We'll wait and

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see. On the Xavier Amos front, maybe he comes back, maybe he doesn't, I don't know, I don't know. I I would be interested in him back, I would like. I said I I'm really I was excited to see him year two in Madison. Now for his senior season. It's more of a wait and see where he's going to end up at this point here. I can't imagine anywhere fantastic, I really can't. I hope so. I would love to see that for him, but I just don't know, I don't know. We'll wait and see, kind of, on what's going to happen there. So if Xavier Ramos is out in Madison. Hopefully that's the last outgoing transfer we got to talk about and we can talk about more incoming

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transfers. Right, I saw somebody talking about AJ store because he entered the transfer portal again. I got to be honest with you Like. I saw that and I thought to myself I wouldn't, I wouldn't hate him to come play on the bench. What could he possibly ask for, nil-wise at this point? Honestly, what could he possibly ask for? He just stunk at Kansas. He can't ask for a lot and I think it would be an awesome finesse story. Greggard brings him in, he plays well, he's going well, he leaves, gets big money, comes back after he starts to think and then it'd be even funnier if Greggard fixes him again. That'd be awesome, that'd be absolutely awesome. I saw people talking about it and they're like absolutely not, absolutely

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not. I'm like, if he wants to come back and sit on the bench, play off the bench for the wisconsin badge, aj store off the bench in wisconsin I. I don't understand why people would hate that. I don't like I would, I'd take it, why not? What's it gonna hurt? Actually, I think it'd be pretty cool. Aj store is an athletic guy. If he gives me solid defense gives me something scoring, whatever I. I can live with it. Something in wisconsin worked for aj store. Maybe it doesn't work second time around, right, I don't know if it's a jeremy jeffress with the brewers. He'd leave sock, come back, do well. Leave sock, come back, do well. It's a weird like love, hate relationship between the two. I don't know what the case would be with aj store, but when I saw it I was like I don't know why people hate this move so much. I think it'd work. I'd be, I'd be, I I'd be, I'd laugh. I would seriously. If they got him back, I would seriously

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laugh. So wait and see what the Badgers do next. In the transfer portal I saw they were targeting a different guy. He's from Wright State. From Wright State, they're a guard. So from what I've seen, it looks like the Badgers are targeting a lot of guards. So we'll wait and see. We'll wait and see what the Badgers want to do next year. I'm excited. I'm excited to see what they're going to do. Maybe it was AJ Braun, was the guy's name. Aj Braun was the guy's name on the way out. Maybe. I don't remember now. I don't remember off the top of my head. Maybe it was AJ Braun or it was Alex Hwabregski Right state, right state. At the end of the day, all I know is that the Badgers are targeting a guard. They've been talking with another guard, so we'll wait and see. We'll the badges for targeting a guard. They've been talking with another guard, so we'll wait and see. We'll wait and see what greg, guard of the badges do here. Uh, moving

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forward. So hey, on the back side of this break, I, aaron, should be back on the back side of the break here, so we're going to talk a little bit badger football. We got melio minute to wrap us up here for the top of the hour. Next hour we should have some packer talk for you, bucks talk. We got all kinds of stuff to hit yet today here, so we'll be back here on the back side of this break. Welcome back into wisconsin sports on the go with trade. I'm your host, trades. We're coming back. We're wrapping up the hour here. Remember, like I always tell you guys or well, just started telling you guys right, this show, the show is now two hours, so don't forget to come back here. Top of the hour. We'll be back here with another hour of wisconsin sports on the go with trade I'm. We'll be back here with another hour of Wisconsin Sports Time. To go with Trace I'm your host, trace, coming back here

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favorite. How is this, uh, how is the new standard and expectation become a five win season? These are dark times. Badger fans, no words. Dot, dot, dot. The wisconsin badgers season wins for 2025 the over five and a half is plus 118. The under at five and a half is 144 negative 144 there. So that's so. That's yeah, that's kind of where Vince is at right now. It's where a lot of Badger fans are

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right. A lot of Badger fans are sitting there and they're saying to themselves I mean and this is where I was, because we're at this point with Luke Fickle where love him, hate him, whatever you want with Luke Fickle I got to be honest with you guys. In my opinion and maybe it's just my opinion, but it seems like a general consensus If Luke Fickle doesn't get the job done here, pretty darn soon they're going to start selling pitchforks and start knocking on doors down there in Madison and where I'm sitting right now. I got to be honest if Luke Fickle doesn't find a way to take this Badger team to a college football playoff maybe not this year, but next what better has he done than Paul Chris? That's what I got. I keep asking myself that honest question all the time, right, because I know that the recruiting wasn't the greatest under Paul Chris. Yeah, I agree that last paul chris was not great, but what has luke fickle done? He has, he

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doesn't. The thing that I look back on consistently, year for the years. Now a couple years, whatever has been with luke fickle, it seems like, oh my gosh, it just seems like forever. And since the badgers have, since I've been excited right to watch Badger football, um, but I, I look at what Luke Fickle has done and I always come back to one thing the signature win. He doesn't have a signature win, he, he can't beat Iowa. I mean, I look at the schedule for next season five and a half wins,

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okay. So let's go through the schedule right. Miami of Ohio, you should win that one. Mtsu, so that Middle Tennessee State should win that one. Then you have at Alabama, I'm gonna, we're gonna put it in the loss column, okay. Maryland at Maryland, no, no, that's home. Home against Maryland Should be a win. I'll give you three At Michigan. Don't like it? Loss Three and two. Iowa at home, that should be a win. There's four. Ohio State at home Going to take a loss At Oregon Loss. Washington at home at home. Illinois at home. Indiana on the road. Minnesota on the road. Five and a

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half. I'm looking at the schedule. It's like this is a daunting schedule. Don't get me wrong, I keep looking at it. I'm like this is a daunting schedule for the Wisconsin Badgers. I don't know who makes schedules up for teams, but whoever made the Badgers hates Wisconsin. They have the toughest schedule in the Big Ten. Strength of schedule has them number one in the Big Ten. It really doesn't get tougher than what they got. When you play Ohio State and Oregon back-to-back you know that's as tough as it gets right. Maybe they should have put Penn State in there too. Just because, just because let's throw Penn State in there instead of Washington, let's play Ohio State, oregon, penn State, then Indiana. That'd be fun. That'd be fun. Little gone like. I don't know who threw this schedule together, but it's like holy cats, you don't. You do not like the Wisconsin Badgers. But I mean, I'm looking at it and I'm like five and a half, that's standard. But this is a year that I'm going to be honest with you. If you don't beat Iowa or Minnesota or a team like Illinois, you can't

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beat. There's tears to the Big Ten. Now there's tears. There always has been. But now there's tears because it's one massive conference. Right, it used to be east and west, so badgers didn't have to really worry about ohio state, penn state, michigan, all them teams. They had to play them like once in a blue moon. Outside of that, they didn't really worry about them. They were worried about beating the teams in the west getting to the big 10 championship. But now it's a massive just is crap. I don't even I. I don't like the conference expansion, so I just it's one craptastic league. Now, right, big big old league, 18 teams. We're still called the Big Ten, but we have 18 teams in it. But now it's your Big Ten is tears. Ohio State maybe. I don't know if you include Michigan up there. You have to, because they beat Ohio State. Right, knock on Ohio State fans there. Penn State, you're going to throw them up there. Oregon's up at the

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top. You have that tier, the tier with Wisconsin, and I don't know if you'd call it B tier or if you're going to work all the way down to C tier with it there. But you have Minnesota, Iowa, illinois, indiana Maybe, I don't know. Indiana's kind of like a flyer. They're in between right now, but I think they're going to come back down to earth Either way. You have that tier with Wisconsin. If you can't beat the teams on your tier, which I? What tier are you on then? Right, because last season you lost to those teams. You lost those teams handily. You got like swatted around. So now, what tier does that even put you on? Because if you're not on that tier, where are you? The ruckers are you with ruckers northwestern? Is that your

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tier? Last season you beat the teams that you're supposed to beat, but you couldn't even get your signature win. You have struggled to get signature wins and that's where I'm looking at with the swisconsin team going into this season. This season I don't think I'm as with this Wisconsin team going into this season. I don't think I'm as worried. I'm not going into this like Vince Beagle saying like, hey, I never thought that Badgers over-under for a win total for a season was going to be five and a half, like that's where they had them pegged and it was actually better odds to pick the under. That's even worse. I didn't think you'd get that

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point. But where I'm at with wisconsin right now is that if you can't even get signature wins and by anybody, I don't care look at the schedule here if you can come out with a win against here's your list of teams you have to at least maybe pick up a win alabama, michigan, ohio state, oregon right, one of those teams. You've got to come away with a win, a signature win, a win that says, hey, we're good, we're fine. Are you on a tier with Iowa? Are you there with Minnesota? That's what we need to find out. Are those programs above you now? We know that Ohio State's above you, they've been. We know that Oregon's above you They've been. Where are you at in comparison to Iowa? Where are you at in comparison to Illinois, minnesota and those teams? That's what I want to find out. Because if you can't beat the likes of those teams, if Luke Fickle gets outcoached and outdone by those teams once again and it looks like they just get outplayed and they get just trucked like they did when they went to Kinnick Stadium and played Iowa or when they played Minnesota, or I mean any of those matchups where they just look like hot garbage, if it looks like that again, I don't know what keeps him around, except for the fact of Chris McIntosh is at risk of losing his

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job. If Luke Fickle loses his job, I want to disagree with Vince Beagle and say, like it's not dark times right and it takes. I don't want to go into another year. How long does it take to rebuild the program. That's what I want to know to these people, to all the fans out there who, if I were to post this right now and say luke fickle should get fired, and you were to tell me oh well, you got to give him time to rebuild this team. He took over a crappy roster from paul christ. He's still trying to get his guys. How long does it take? There's nobody left from paul christ. Nobody, nobody, not. The coaching staff is barely there like, and there's no hope that he really left. Who are you gonna blame right? At some point you gotta blame the guy on top. These I I get so sick and tired

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of. There's this multiple narratives like so this there's a crowd over here that hates luke fickle. There's a crowd over here that hates Luke Fickle. There's a crowd over here that he can't do any wrong. And there's a crowd in the middle who's like okay, where do we want to sit? Right, and that's where I'm at. I'm in the middle, but I'm looking at it. I'm like, eh, uh, he's got to prove something to, and he hasn't, and that's where I'm at right now. So that's kind of what I want to talk about there with Badger, football was just kind of look at what Vince Beagle had to say that over-under madness there and see what was going on in everybody else's opinions there. I'd love to hear your opinions, though, so make sure you text them to me 715-990-4914. That is 715-990-4914.

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give me your opinion, right there.

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So I want to get over to the mellow yellow minute. No, aaron, no aaron, right now I don't think he's probably gonna make it here to the show. We're hoping, but I don't think he's gonna make it on tonight here. Uh, work has got him caught up. But I want to get over to the mellow yellow minute real quick. Here we have. It's gonna be a little different because aaron is not here, so I gotta figure out how I'm gonna do it myself, right? So, if you are able, if you're sitting in your car, maybe you're at home, you're next to the fridge. Hopefully you're next to the fridge, right? You guys know the drill get your favorite beverage, crack that thing. I always got my mellow yellow here to crack here for the mellow yellow minutes and I want to get over.

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We're gonna do a little brewers, wisconsin sports jeopardy. There you go, wisconsin sports jeopardy. So I don't see the answers until you guys see the answers. Fair enough, right, fair enough. So I'm going to give everybody like five seconds after I give the answer.

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The Brewers, all-time leader in hits. Brewers, all-time leader in hits. Who is it Ready? One, two, three, four, five, robin Yao. That's our answer, robin Yao. There we go, there we go. We got Packers for 100 here.

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Who did Brett Favre complete his first pass to? We all know that answer. That's to himself. Come on, come on. What is Brett Favre? That's right. What is Brett Favre? The Bucs' year of their only championship. See, this is an old Jeopardy template. Here we Ryan Braun. Ryan Braun is the answer there. So there we go, there we go. There's our Melly L Minute.

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A little bit of a shortened version of it tonight there, but that's because I didn't really have anybody to guess with me when I'm reading off the questions, so it's a little bit harder there. So, hey, we got more on the backside of this. We got a couple of special guests. Kyle's going to be here for Bucks Talk. We bucks talk. We have ummer coming on from coast to coast packers. He's gonna be talking packers with us here after the break. So can't wait to come back and talk with those guys. So we'll be back here in just a minute.

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Welcome back into wisconsin. Sports. Time to go with trades. I'm your host, trades, we're coming back. It's the second hour of the show tonight here. Aaron, he's gonna step out for a second. He's been out for a second here. He at work, then he comes back, then he's out for a second but he's back here. Um, so tonight I got a special guest with me. I got kyle. We're gonna talk bucks tonight here he's my guy. When we gotta talk bucks, I bring kyle along here. Good friend of the show here from chopping at the bit podcast there, aaron kyle, how we doing tonight I'm good, I can't complain.

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know it's been a little while, but yeah, you know, coming out to the end of the season, so glad to talk basketball with you.

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So, Kyle, I mean let's just dive right into it. Let's dive right into it here at this Bucs talk. I mean, right now, the Bucs they've been playing well, I mean, who they've been playing hasn't been. I guess you could say no-transcript thoughts on this bucks team as of late here. Is there anything that's standing out to you with this team at this very moment, you know where, as we kind of get close to the end here, wrapping up and hoping to stay healthy, right, because this team has been banged up hoping?

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to stay healthy. Is there anything that stood out to you with this team?

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I mean, they've kind of been what I've have seen them be all season. They are relying on yannis to, you know, physically dominate and kind of carry the load for them, especially with dame being out. You know, if they can get him back, that'd be a the load for them, especially with Dame being out. You know, if they can get him back, that'd be a big help for them. I feel like they are kind of caught in a weird spot when you look at the East where you know certain teams ahead of them. I don't necessarily like matchups for the Bucs but look, you got to make the playoffs to have a shot at it. And you know Giannis is battle-tested. Dame has his playoff moments Once again if he can come back.

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It's a veteran group and what that could do for the Bucs, it might give them an advantage over some of these teams that are kind of young and inexperienced. But I don't know. It's really weird where the bucks are. Like I said, I mean, look, it's good that they're winning games now because you want to go into the playoffs with some momentum on your side. It's just going to be tough once they get in the playoffs to to really get to a conference final, much less the NBA finals. So I will give them a shot. Because of their experience, I just don't know how much I like this team, the way that it's constructed.

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Yeah, no, I would agree. And you know what I said the biggest thing was was missing that play in tournament. Not, you want to avoid that play in tournament. If you're the bucks, give dame time, give yannis time, give those guys time to rest, get ready to go. Hopefully, get a guy like dame back. I mean, we look at it according to shams. What he had to say about it sounds like dame could be back for the playoffs. According to a lot of bucks insiders, from what I've heard, that's like maybe right, that's very optimistic. We're on a very optimistic stage there when Shams is talking, because, according to a lot of guys, we might not see Dame again this season for the Bucs. Now Bobby, though Bobby Portis coming back for this Bucs team. I mean, talk about that. What does a guy like Bobby do for this Bucs team coming back there? We know about his impact and everything. Talk about that a little bit there. And if Dame is not able to come back, is that it? I mean basically, is it Dame or Bucs for this Bucs team?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, look when you look at how poor it is. He's a guy who gives you 14 and 8, about 25 minutes a game. He shoots like 46 from the field field. I think his field goal and three-point percentage are slightly down from his career average, but they're still decent enough. I think he's like a career 38 from three. He's shooting 36. You can still work with that, I think. Field goals like 48, career down to 46 this season. Free throw percentage is up though, and that's that's a big deal. A lot. Some of these playoff games come down to guys who can step to the line, make a free throw late, and he's shooting, I think, about 82 from the line this season. He's normally a 76 free throw shooter and his points have gone up as well this year from 12 to 14 a game.

Speaker 2:

That kind of production you need. You know the east is seen as not as not as deep as the west or whatever, but there's still some good teams in the east and you need as many guys as you can get on the floor that you kind of know what you're going to get from them. I think bobby's one of those guys. Yeah, he'll have his moments where he'll have a game where he gets into early foul trouble. He can kind of get emotional and play undisciplined, but some instances you're willing to take that. You know he's a guy who can operate in the mid-range, he can hit the corner three and I think offensively especially if Dame isn't able to come back, he can play off of Giannis well Because we know Giannis will do a. I think offensively, especially if Dame isn't able to come back, he can play off of Giannis well because we know Giannis will do a lot of the ball handling and try to playmake as much as he can. And Portis is a guy that you don't need to call plays for necessarily, but he can produce. So that's going to be a plus.

Speaker 2:

In terms of Dame, look, it's blood clots. You can't force him back too soon dealing with that. We've seen what it's done with Wemby. It ended his season. I mean, the Spurs weren't going to be in the playoffs anyway, but it ended his season.

Speaker 2:

Bosh, it ended his career. So it's a wide range with it. You can't play with that. But if he can't come back, then yeah, whatever chance you might have given him would go out the window, because Dane gives you a ball handler which without him, giannis is going to have to take up a lot of that role and shot creation. One thing I don't necessarily like about the Bucs team they don't have a lot of guys who, if you gave them the ball, could create for themselves, and especially in today's NBA, that is something that you need, where you've got to isolate guys on defense and take advantage of mismatches. If you don't have guys who can do that, it makes it that much harder for you and that's where Dame would come in. So if he can't come back, then yeah, I don't like the Bucs' chances at all.

Speaker 1:

No, I mean they have two good young guards, right. I love what's his name there. Kevin Porter Jr has done with the Bucs since they got him, same with Ryan Rollins since he's been given a larger role there. But, like you said, I mean they're not, they're not Dame, they're not that guy that can be that guy. They I mean, like you were saying, shot creation they have guys on this team that's like on certain nights they could find a shot, they can get hot right. We've seen Kuzma have his nights, we've seen Porter go off a little bit there. We've seen these guys go off, but it's is it at a consistent basis. And that's where this bucks team lacks is that consistency that we see night in, night out. We talk about defense with this team. One night they're great defensively. The next night it's like what is this? What are we watching right now? And then the next night, same with the offense. One night they can put up 130. The next night there it's like, well, they can barely muster out 100. Where are we at right now? So it's a wide spectrum with this team and I agree with you, it's going to be tough without dame to kind of settle that down and find that consistency here moving forward, especially when you have such a wide disparity between the leading scorer and yannis and 30, and then right now your third best is kyle kuzma with 14. So that's a wide disparity there up top to middle there, but you have a lot of guys in the 10 range. So we'll see how this bucks team does. Uh, moving forward there.

Speaker 1:

I had a question for you, and this is more wide spectrum of the nba. Right now it looks like sga yokich. Some people might have problems with that. Those two are the nvp candidates. Those two are up on the top of it right now. Where do you have yannis ranked in with those guys like, if you're talking best players, where does yannis sit with them? Because to me I think yannis, he's almost like in his own category because what he does in a game now is what they did 50 years ago in the game of basketball. It was bully ball, it was. You know I'm going to dominate the paint area. I'm not really. He does all this. He averages 30 points a game and he doesn't really shoot it well from the outside. I mean, there's not many guys who do that anymore, who can score it consistently on the inside and get you 30 points a game. That's wild to me. So where does Giannis stand to you in that ranking of best players in the world? Where is he on that spectrum right now?

Speaker 2:

I think in terms of best players in the world, he's obviously going to be up there In terms of MVP this season. I think this might be a tough year for him because Jokic and SGA have distanced themselves. Whoever you have first is up to you. I think the narrative is that SGA is going to win it, but it's kind of hard to ignore what Jokic has been doing. The man had a 60-something point triple-double Like that's crazy, and I kind of think he's going to make it hard for voters not to pick him. But once you get past those two, you're looking at a race where Tatum is going to be up there as the best player on a really good defending champion Celtics team. Steph is going to be out there because what works for Steph? The numbers may not blow you out of the water, but since it's V for valuable when Steph isn't on the court, the Warriors just look so different and they are beating expectations this season that's going to work in Steph's favor. So I think Steph's going to be up there. I'm going to show some love to Cade Cunningham, because what the Pistons have done this year you have to give him a lot of credit for that. Like he's coming to his own. He's matured as a player. He looks like a polished player this season. So I would put him up there. That would kind of be my top five player this season. So I would put him up there. That would kind of be my top five.

Speaker 2:

And then after that you're looking at guys like Giannis, who I think would probably lead that second group. You know LeBron will get some consideration obviously with you know the age. They are in the standings like he's going to get some love. Luka will be interesting. Well, no, actually Luka doesn't qualify't qualify. So you know, take him out of the equation. You know Cleveland will probably get somebody up there, but I wouldn't take anybody from Cleveland over Giannis. So I think Giannis is a fringe top five MVP vote getter and if he's not top five, I think he'd probably be sixth in the race right now.

Speaker 1:

okay, it's just it's just.

Speaker 2:

It's kind of a stacked group this year it's a tough race and the bucks are.

Speaker 1:

Sometimes the mvp vote comes down to whose team is playing the best too and whose whose team is getting the job done. And it makes you question if aim, if dame was healthy consistently and playing well and then yannis was playing well, would that put yannis higher up on the list? Because then people would be talking about yannis because the bucks would be near the top of the east. So it always has that weighing in on people's minds there. So I guess well, I mean, we'll wait and see. I'm guessing it's probably going to be sga. I'm gonna agree with you there. I do, like you talked about kate cunningham, though what the pistons have done this year, from being basement dwellers to what we see now, can't believe it. I absolutely can't believe it.

Speaker 1:

So before I let you go, we got just about here to our commercial break. We gotta let kyle go for the night here. But, kyle, before I let you go, big boston guy over here. You saw a little bit of quinn priester there with the boston red sox. The brewers just made that. What are your thoughts on that deal that the Brewers and Red Sox kind of struck up? Brewer fans think they got hosed. Red Sox fans are kind of like, yeah, we didn't need the pitcher right now, but we got a pretty good outfielder. Where are you at right now with that trade?

Speaker 2:

Look, I mean I was surprised that it went down because when the Red Sox with Priester in Boston was, there's been a couple of guys who've come up from AAA or AA through the system that have made debuts with the team that look good. So I think it kind of pushed Priester down a little bit bit. I do think for Priester this probably works out better for him because early in the season you know the Brewers pitching hasn't been that great. I think they're second worst in terms of team ERA at like six a game. So if Priester can kind of show that flash, that potential and show what the Red socks on him I think he came from the pirate system as well. You know, maybe mid season or even in like a few weeks maybe he establishes himself in that rotation and can kind of start carving out a bit of a career for himself.

Speaker 2:

Like I, I see why the brewers did it. I mean brewers fans yeah, you gave up your what number seven prospect that you hear number seven prospect fans will all automatically kind of overreact to it because it's a high ranking prospect. But you got to think about it. Brewers need pitching. They got a pitcher with potential. I feel like it's it kind of works both ways, cause the Red Sox are kind of loaded in the outfield. But he's a bat and you know, in Fenway in that division you always need bats. So I think for both in a couple of years they'll probably look back on it and say both got something that we wanted and, you know, hopefully something screwed.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, right, hopefully somebody gets screwed. It's all said and done there. So I mean, yeah, it's exactly what I said top of the show when we were talking about it. At the top of the show, I said the same exact thing. The brewer saw a guy. They wanted the outfields already loaded, so a number seven prospect in the outfield, what I mean. And in day and age, at this time of the season, you're not getting a starting pitcher without an arm and a leg going out the door. So I mean, yeah, that's about it there.

Speaker 1:

So if you guys want to catch all Kyle's stuff because he has great stuff across social media check him out there, chopping at the Bit podcast there, check him out on Facebook Everywhere where you can find anything Kyle is there. Youtube, wherever anything, kyle is there youtube, wherever he does all kinds of stuff with sports, nba, mlb, everything in between. So make sure you check them out there. But hey, we got more on the back side here, special guests coming in next year talking about the packers. We'll be right back here after this commercial break. Welcome back into wisconsin sports on the go with trage. I'm your host, trage, we're coming back here.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 1:

It doesn't sound how it's spelt, but that's exactly like my name there, so Umber, how are we doing tonight, on this Wednesday, a great Wednesday.

Speaker 3:

Yes, I'm great man, I'm great how you been man. I mean, it's a Wednesday, the weather's kind of hit or miss over here by DMV area, but I can't complain, man, we're alive and well you know how it goes.

Speaker 1:

That's how it goes, alive and well. That's all you need to know.

Speaker 2:

That's all you need to know there.

Speaker 1:

If you want to find Omer and his great stuff because it is fantastic, you're going to hear his stuff here tonight a little bit on the show. But Great Packers podcast and show there, find it on YouTube, spotify, facebook, itunes. Wherever you find podcasts you can find them. And hopefully he's going to be back here on the show weekly to give us our Packer update, so hopefully we can have him back here. But I mean, let's fly right into it. We're off and running tonight here. We might as well keep it going here. What do you think? I mean, we've been seeing they were working out. We saw it seemed like they were in good spirits, right? Because the last time we saw Jair he walked out of the locker room and said basically deuces, I'm out of here, I ain't talking to nobody, and he left and it was like, okay, he's not happy, who's he not happy with, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Well, now we see a little bit of an off-season working out for a while now seem to be in good spirits, which is the opposite of what we thought Jair was. So the Packers we haven't seen a lot of movement. Goody said they'd like to. If they're gonna move them, move them before the draft, so they know what they got. Not really any rumblings right now, especially because he just had the owners meeting and all these guys were together. We haven't heard anything out of there. What do you think the Packers are going to do? You think they're going to move on from? I mean, what would you do if you were in the packers shoes? Are you moving on from? Are you keeping jair, alexander?

Speaker 3:

I mean the thing with jair is that you know he was brian gutico's first draft pick in the first round. Right, he traded up for him after going back and forth with the saints, getting, you know, getting additional picks and stuff like that. He, jair, is a two-time all-pro. He is probably the best corner on our team and yeah, yeah, he's had some injury issues. We did have some you know captain stuff issues last year in Carolina, but again, when he's on the field he is a difference maker.

Speaker 3:

I think last year there was a lot of frustration on his part probably on the team's part about the fact that you know he tried to come back and rehab instead of getting surgery earlier. I find a way to keep him because even Goody even said it at the owner's meeting he goes. We've invested a lot of energy and time in Jair and you know you want to get something back for him. More likely you probably won't because everybody knows there's this like impasse right now. But if, if, seen him training with McKinney, he actually also called Nate Hobbs and like texted him, I mean, and told him was like hey, man, congratulations, welcome to the team. So he's doing things that makes me feel like he's still a part of the team, which he is, and he has every incentive to come to the team.

Speaker 3:

Come to the voluntary workouts. Still get paid. If he wants to, I find a way to keep him. If not, if it doesn't work out, I find a way to do right by him and send him to Baltimore so you can play with his former teammate, lamar Jackson and Luke from Louisville. The happiness that he had when he saw Lamar get drafted in the first draw back in 2018 was something that he still shows to this day, and I know the cap hit is negligible. For the most part, they're talking about how they've gone to him and they have not gone to him on a restructure. Even if they did, he wouldn't take it. So I don't know if it's basically a line has been drawn and we're just trying to see who's gonna budge first. But at the end of the day, me personally, I do try to find a way to keep him because we're a better team with him on the field without. I know people say for how long or how many games?

Speaker 1:

I don't know, but for all the games he plays, he pretty much is a shutdown quarter yeah, no, I would agree, and you know the only the way that I would bring him back is I would tell him you get incentives. This is how it's going to be. If you play so many games, this is how much money you get. You give him his whole contract If he plays a set amount of games. Does this, does this, you get four picks or whatever. Just spitballing here four picks not really that high, but whatever, you would count as the average for interceptions right Across the league. So many tackles, so many pass to flat, whatever it is right. You give them those incentive-based contract and say this is what you got to do to prove it to us, not just give them a guaranteed contract at this point, because I got to be honest with you, it's not worth the guarantee at this point because you aren't.

Speaker 1:

That's the thing, is what sucks. It's said when he's out there lockdown he's your guy, yeah. But when he's out there like, I mean, these last two years we've seen him for seven games in total 2021 we saw him for four. When we see him for 16 games, he's fantastic, yeah, but can we get him for 16? That's the question and that's where a lot of pack fans are at. We're there, why do we need him? Why? And so we forget that he's there because he's hurt all the time. So it's like can you get him back? Can you get him healthy? Hopefully you do. Hopefully you bring in the right strength and training guys that can keep him healthy, keep him out there and keep the thing moving. But that's where I'm going right now is incentive-based a little bit there for the contract for him.

Speaker 1:

But the Packers you mentioned it there they had a couple of moves this last offseason Nate, nate Hobbs and Aaron Banks. I thought great moves, nate Hobbs. I thought on that defense, he's very versatile, can move around, he can play inside, outside, wherever you need him. That's what Goody loved about him. I see that too. With him there, aaron Banks. He's a road grader. I mean, that's what the Packers wanted. They wanted a road grader.

Speaker 2:

He's a road grader on the inside. Fans are still upset, though always upset.

Speaker 1:

It's like why can't we just be, why can't we just be happy? Right, everybody just wants to be happy. We can't be, we it's. It's so crazy to me because we yell about corners. We get a corner. He's not good enough. We yell about the well, I can't believe that anybody yelled about the offensive line. Because you want to know why we lost to the eagles the offensive line.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it was once we went out.

Speaker 1:

We were done. We were done because people are like, oh well, you well, you know, it wasn't just that. I'm like no penalties galore After Elton Jenkins went out. So many penalties we couldn't even get a drive start. So, yes, it was a big reason. So I look at that and I'm like, love it, love the move for Aaron Banks. But fans are upset. They say, well, why didn't you go get this wide receiver? Why didn't you go get this guy? Why didn't you go get this guy?

Speaker 1:

What do you think? What do you think of these moves that the Packers have made so far? Is it enough in your eyes, did they do enough in your eyes so far in free agency to say I like this? You know, because a lot of you listen to Goody and he's like we can fill these holes with the guys in the room right the defensive line. We love what we have in the room already, some of these widest the wide receiver room. We love what we got. I said I kind of like what they got too. So I don't know, I'm kind of at a crossroad with that. What do you think about the moves they made? Do you think it's enough?

Speaker 3:

I think that, no matter what the Packers did, this free agent market was not as good as we thought. There was a lot of big money that was thrown out. We did have to throw a lot of big money for Aaron Banks, but again, aaron comes from a system with shanahan systems. He kind of already knows how the floor runs his team. When it comes to offensive line, he does shore up either the left or right guard. Consider that elton now probably moved to center now, yeah, like was I really keen on the sign based on the money amount? Not really, but I get why they did like you just said.

Speaker 3:

When elton went out, that whole offensive line was his gone, shambles, right. And then nate hobbs, who's an amazing corner, but talked to a lot of my friends that are raiders fans. They say that he's gonna miss games. So it's almost like you know we got a guy who's highly aggressive, who likes to attack the ball and when you hear him talk too, he seems like a very humble down to earth and just loves football, like he just wants to play football. And even in the kansas city game last year where he broke his hand and they're like, hey, man, you might be done and he's like no, cast it up and he went back out to the second half of the cast on his hand and still was played, was still trying to get the job done. So, all in all, I think we all got spoiled in 2019 when beauty spent a lot of money on the free agency market with, you know, preston, smith and darius and things like that, right amos, and then this last year, with, you know, josh jacobs and mckinney.

Speaker 3:

So I think there was a precedent set, but it's been pretty well documented. The money that was set up for a lot of players. There were some marquee players out there, but we weren't going to get those guys like the milton williams and things like that. That wasn't going to happen. So for me, I think they did what they need to do, so that way, they didn't feel that they had to reach in the draft.

Speaker 3:

And I say that probably because I remember the year we drafted jason spriggs and we were very concerned about our tackle position. Right clifton was gone. We didn't really have a short left tackle. You know we trade up to get ahead of the bears to get jason spriggs in the second round and then what happens? He turns out to be a complete bust. And I think that same year we got david makitari, who eventually takes over left tackle, becomes an all pro tackle, right. So now that we have pretty much a guard that can play any three, any of the two guard positions, we have a quarter who can play inside or out, like we're not pigeonholed. It's like having to reach for a certain player, let's not forget. You know, we got you know, even though he's not like a marquee receiver, you know.

Speaker 2:

Michael.

Speaker 3:

Hartman is a great fourth, fourth, fourth WR4. He's an amazing special teams guy. So Nixon's already talked about say he doesn't want to kick returns anymore because he's gonna be CB1.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's fine, because we got a guy that can do it and with the rules that are changing now they're gonna be more kickoffs. Nixon might be interested in going back out there, but if he doesn't, we have a guy that can play, punt return and kick return, and he does it really well too. He's, you know, coming again. Another georgia kid comes out of georgia, ran like a four, three night coming out, and of course he's a lot older now but I'm pretty sure his speed is still up there. And having him as that guy that does not only the special teams role but also maybe the tyler irvin role with that, you know that orbit motion stuff, bring that back. I I'm okay. I'm really looking forward to seeing how they attack this draft, because there's a lot of guys that I'm already in fall in love with and I just don't know how the hell they're going to get on.

Speaker 1:

Exactly that's the problem. As you look at it, it's like I wish they could get this guy, this guy and this guy. And well, cooper DeGene walks away right.

Speaker 3:

Look Jackson Smith and Jiggo was my guy last year. I I love him.

Speaker 1:

I love him too, and I did. I love Cooper DeGene too, but the amount of Chris I got to listen to everybody freak out about Cooper DeGene now, Like they. You know I said it.

Speaker 3:

That's my guy.

Speaker 1:

I love Cooper DeGene and I really wanted him, but everybody was freaking out after the Eagles game, and after we saw what Cooper DeGene did with the Eagles there, they're like, oh well, that's what we missed out on. It's like, ah, but you put him in Green Bay with no pass rush. It changes what the secondary looks like too. So I mean, you never know. You never know what he would have done as a rookie in Green Bay in a different kind of system with a different line, because they're bringing four and they can drop back seven. It's a lot easier to place in the secondary. So that's big. I mean, yes, that is huge too.

Speaker 1:

I love what you said there about Hardman, though, and I completely agree. I said the same thing. The rules are changing. Kick returning is going to become a hot commodity, and bringing in a guy like that, who's excellent in the return game, I love it. You need guys like that now, because they they're going to do everything they can over the next couple of years to make sure that everybody's returning kicks. I still don't understand why we don't move the kicker back. We keep penalizing them, for you know, we're gonna keep moving them out right, we're gonna move it to the 40 here pretty soon.

Speaker 1:

Pretty soon it's gonna be midfield. Not a fair catch they're gonna be off right that's where they're gonna be at, and I'm like why don't you just move the kicker back like? We keep moving why don't we move him back like 10 yards?

Speaker 3:

if he boots it from his own 20 through the end zone, okay, give him a point, like get a free point, I don't care, like that's cool but probably, probably, probably, probably the only one that's doing right, yeah, so I mean, I'm with you, though I just, yeah, they're making all these rule changes and then you know a lot of like nfl safety concerns and then on top of that too, but they're still making these rules that you feel like it's not really taking. You know, we're trying to add an extra game, things like that, right, so it's like a little bit of talking out both sides of your neck, but I agree, like the kicker thing is one way to help change that, because then it gets you in that zone that you're trying to kick into yeah, right, so I think.

Speaker 3:

But you know again. Uh, I know just muscata who, um, actually was a part of the xfl and he was a part of, like, actually helping create. I don't know if he helped create it, but he knew about the whole kickoff rule. When I was over there and this is where we're trying to adopt a little bit and he was saying that, yeah, their kickoffs, if you kick them to end zone, it comes to their 40. So what you just said is something that they do.

Speaker 3:

So, yeah, exactly. So it's like yeah, I don't know where this is going to go, but I'm really looking forward to seeing, like I mean, if Nixon's fresh legs for your number one corner, because he's going to be out there running all the time, you don't need him playing four downs, basically, and taking a lick, I don't need him taking a lick either.

Speaker 2:

I mean that fumble on that quick return man you mean the illegal helmet-to-helmet contact. Yes.

Speaker 1:

They ruled out the fact. 100% agree, yes.

Speaker 3:

Oren Bur.

Speaker 1:

Yes, oran burks is dead, to me that's all I have to say, oran burks, my favorite part was they. Yes, they find them a week later and they're like oh yeah, it was an illegal hit. And we're like where was that? In the moment you guys re-looked at it, where? Was that in the moment, but okay, and they had the sky cam that could see it happen.

Speaker 3:

I'm thinking like and then I'll talk like he did get possession back and and then somehow over the scrum he eventually loses. But eventually in the beginning he was down, he had the ball in his hand. I'm like that's Packer ball.

Speaker 2:

When that happened.

Speaker 3:

I don't like to be a pessimist. I like to do a lot of ball game, like Nagler does. But, man, I was like this is not the way you start out. It's like come on, man, you have this going into this game. We already came with a losing streak too like this is terrible. What are we doing right now?

Speaker 1:

so when that happened, I I sat back. I was sitting forward, I was like excited and I sat back. I was like yeah, that's it, yeah that's it.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely yes, but I'm gonna be bad, as I don't know what the whole time.

Speaker 1:

Yep, I was like I'm gonna sit here, but I went shovel snow at halftime. I was like like I'm going to shovel some snow. I am bad at eating right now I'm going outside.

Speaker 3:

I have all these my Philly friends and all these people blowing up my phone. I'm just like guys. Just let's not.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you're out that way too, yeah, I got out.

Speaker 3:

I went to Philly to watch the game with my friends because it was in Brazil.

Speaker 3:

so we didn't go to Brazil, obviously, even though we lost, it was a back and forth game, right yeah oh yeah, and I think that last year with everything that kind of happened, you know we didn't really get blown out very much, like you know. I'm saying like we were in most games, um, but it just I felt like all the games we should have won we did win, except the bears game, because that bears game we should have won. Hand right bobby again, injuries were killing us and something you mentioned previously about the training staff like we got a new training staff here. Aaron Hill came from the Niners. He was an assistant strength and conditioning coach there and him and like Jair, vibed really well. Like he said that they all are great, they're on the same page.

Speaker 3:

And we did see a decrease what was it? A decrease in hamstring, but there was an increase in, like knee injuries. It was something different. Like we were seeing Right and again, no matter what you do, you can't account for injuries, like injuries that happen or freak things. You know these guys they put their bodies in some kind of like conditioning to where you know like it's just going to, it's just going to happen. You know, they're so wound up so tightly Sometimes you just can't, you can't really account for it I agree.

Speaker 1:

I agree 100. That was great stuff there from amar. We're gonna catch him back here. He'll be back next week, don't you guys worry, he'll be back next week. We'll talk about more packers coming up in the show next week. So thank you for jumping out with us tonight here, amar. We'll have you back next week here on the show. Thank you.

Speaker 3:

We appreciate this awesome.

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There we go. You take care, buddy, we'll catch you later and hey, we'll be back here on the backside of this break. We got more Badger Talk to get to here tonight. All right, take care. Welcome back in to Wisconsin Sports on the go with Trage. I'm your host, trage, we're coming back. It's April 9th.

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That was a fantastic last segment, last two segments that we had Kyle coming on talking Fox and then I had Amar Amar, sorry, almost spaced it there. I said his name wrong at the end of the last before the break to it. I'm like, oh crap, I started out so well, I screwed it up again. Ummer there. That was a great segment for when he was coming on there talking about the Packers too. So make sure you guys, if you didn't hear it, make sure you go back on the podcast. Wherever you find podcasts you can find it there. Make sure you search it up there and find it there. So with that, I want to get into a little bit more badger talk here. I know we talk badgers, football and basketball already, but there's one more thing I want to talk about badgers. But before we get there, I want to mention the sponsors of this show here. First, marshfield motor speedway, the half mile paved racetrack three miles west of marshfield on county road h. Find upcoming events and races at marshfieldspeedwaycom.

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So I want to jump back over to the Badgers just for a second. There wasn't a whole lot to it, I guess, but this came across my Twitter feed the other day talking about Mark and Leslie Johnson. So Mark Johnson, the head coach of the Wisconsin Badgers women's hockey team there, and also his wife, leslie. They have opened up a new ranch. It's called ACPE I probably butchered that, just to be honest with you. A-g-a-p-e Ranch there it's going to be opening up. It aims to provide a safe and positive healing experience for kids through the power of nature and animals, especially horses. Johnson said kids interacting with horses will help boost their self-confidence. That is 100% the truth, 100% the truth.

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And I don't know if you know me, you know about my family and everything like that, or if you don't know me. My family has had horses for generations Belgian draft horses, right, not Clydesdales. I swear you get more in my if any of my aunts, uncles, grandma she's probably listening right now they have gotten some. Are these Clydesdales? He's like, no, they're Belgian draft horses. Are these? No, they're Belgian draft horses. Like, get that question, all this thinking time there. But I, I I agree with that statement a hundred percent.

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This is a awesome thing that they are setting up here because you see kids and they perk up when they see horses and they can go from zero to 100 when they see a horse, the horses. If you get the right horses, they're like giant dogs. So I love what they're doing here because it is going to open up avenues for kids all over the place that they didn't even know. And my wife? She worked at a therapeutic ranch for a little bit there. So she has experience in this field too. So it's an exciting thing.

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It is an exciting thing and I am glad that these two such great people such great people already but that they're giving back in such a kind way and maybe sometime I don't know how this thing works, but maybe you can go down and see it and stuff like that you can know. If I don't know how this thing works, but maybe you can go down and see it and stuff like that um, you could also. There's they got uh cleaning out the chicken coop. You can go clean some chicken poop out. I mean that sounds exciting gardening, gardening, everything like that so you can get a full experience when you're down there at the ocpay ranch. So make sure you're looking up there. It's at the uh to raise money. They also hosted a charity event, I guess. So they've been doing a lot of charity work with it too. So it's just exciting stuff. So just giving back to the community. I saw that and I just wanted to talk about it, just announce it a little bit, just raise awareness for it, because that was awesome when I saw that was happening. So that's about all I had there with the Badgers.

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I want to jump over a little bit of Brewer talk here. So we're watching the Brewers right now. As you guys know, we're pre-recorded so we record night before right. I'm watching the Brewers right now. Yelich just went deep there against I I think it was against Herget there for the Rockies. Yelich struggled mightily in that game 0 for 3 against Freeland and goodness gracious I, out of all the guys Freeland faced, if he would have faced Yelich every time the he would have looked like he was like the best pitcher in all the all baseball. It seemed like his stuff was really working when he's pitching the yellich and it was. I was really kind of nervous there for a minute. And now I'm watching this here and the brewers bats are just taking off. We got contreras going deep there. We had we just saw bryce duran go deep to extend that hitting streak and then we we see Contreras go deep, yelich goes. Everybody is joining in in the home run parade there.

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This Brewers team over this last weekend here against the Royals or not against the Royals against the Reds? There they did face the Royals before that, but against the Reds they started to take off a little bit and it was because the pitching staff came back down to earth, right, the pitching staff. You look at the first series against the Yankees, those are some skewed numbers. I mean first game of the season. Freddie Peralta pitched well, there was four runs in the entire game there for the Yankees. In that one Freddie ended up taking the loss. He gave up two of those runs. So not really I'm not going to sit here and say it was completely Freddie's fault, right, two runs given up in the entire game there. Next game out 20 runs they gave up. Next game out 12 runs given up. And then they faced the royals game 1 11 runs given up. And you're like when is it going to stop? Right, when is it going to stop?

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That's when this guy came along by the name of chad patrick. I don't, I didn't know who this guy was. They're like who's chad patrick? This is random guy, random guy. We're gonna call him random guy. Right comes in four and two-thirds inning three hits, three walks, five Ks in this one Pitched fantastic right and it was all around a great effort then in the rest of this for the Brewers team.

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There pitching-wise, they pitched a shutout and then after that the arms took off. The arms took care of business then and it felt like we were watching Brewer baseball, how the Brewers win games. It felt like we were watching that again 5-0 in that game against the Royals, 3-2 in the next game against the Royals, there to win the series, 1-0 against the Reds, 3-2 against the Reds in game two. And then game three came around and my goodness, they have got to let Rodriguez. I vouched for him, I did After. I believe it was the Royals. I think they lost the game to the Royals. They're 11-1.

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And I think he gave up six, maybe four, only four, not bad, only four, right. And he gave up those four runs and I was like, guys, first off, he's not even supposed to be pitching, I'm not going to start beating on this guy just because I can. Well, now I'm looking at it and I'm like, okay, one's bad, two games of just getting shelled. That's a different story. Because in that game against the Reds the Brewers needed, like they needed one shutdown inning One In that whole stretch. They needed one. They put up I mean the Reds put up four runs. Actually it was 7-0. Then the Brewers came back, made it 7-5. Then the Reds put up three more runs, made it 10-5. And the Brewers put up two, made it 10-7. And then one more run there after that and it night, nighty, night lights out, right, it's just.

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You want to sit there and hope that this guy could figure it out at some point, because the brewers have had guys figure it out at some point, but I, if that was the last outing of rodriguez, that was the last outing on regas. We'll get over it there and he can take what's his name with him too there. Uh, I believe the other guy who pitched there was connor thomas in that one. Connor Thomas, he's gotten lit up multiple times there, for the Brewers too. So I've had enough of watching both them guys pitch at this point and I know I can't be picky because there's nobody left right. I know I can't be too picky, but son of a gun, son of a gun.

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It's like the Brewers pitching staff finally figured out, went through this stretch of games where they start the season, look how many runs they gave. Oh, what 32, 36 runs, 36. And then what 47 runs through the first four games. And then they go on this burner and they only give up four runs. And that stretch you're like, wow, okay, here we go, and then the Reds score 11. And then next day out they only score two. So it's like, where was your difference? Well, so it's like where was your difference? Well, these guys pitching right, and there's not much you can do about it because the pitching staff is kind of banged up. But we'll see. I mean, I'm hoping that that was probably their last outing.

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I know Quintana is slated to come back here pretty soon. I did see exciting news Tobias Myers last night or last night there he did pitch a game down in Nashville and that was exciting because it was a good inning, three and a third innings. Pitched two hits, zero runs, two walks, two strikeouts, 45 pitches. Nice, nice rehab start there for Tobias Myers there down at Nashville. So exciting news. Hopefully get a couple more outings out of him. He's feeling good. He can come back there. Woodruff can come back. You get Nestor back back, nasty Nestor there. You get some of these guys coming back. I feel good because until then you got guys like Chad Patrick and Chad Patrick's picked. Well, I mean his second time out there. Oh, when did he he pitched? I was trying to remember. When the heck did he pitch that second game there for the Brewers.

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It was not Tyler Alexander's the one who almost no hit the Reds. That was a solid outing too. Maybe Tyler Alexander has a little bit of an encore outing there. It must've, it must've been this game here. Yes, it was. This game is the final game of the series there. Chad Patrick got the win. Five and a third, two hits, one earned run. Chad Patrick was fantastic, fantastic.

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So I'm looking at this team right now and I'm like all right, all right. So I'm looking at this team right now and I'm like all right, all right, we found some guys who can get her done. Now it's about surviving the rest of the outings. Right, you got some guys that you know you can send out there and they're going to pitch well. It's just about surviving the rest of these outings. And fastball Freddie pitched well tonight. Again, freddie's been pitching well. I know I don't even understand. Coming off of game one, everybody I had to read the doorknobs across social media Tell me that Freddy Peralta is not an ace and it's like when did he? When did everybody say that it was Nobody? But Freddy Peralta has not pitched that bad this season for the Brewers. I don't know if you like, realistically, do people think that he's pitching that bad, 2.08 ERA, 16 strikeouts? He's got a .54

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whip. Gave up two runs against the Yankees on opening day in Yankee Stadium, playing on the short porch. Does anybody remember seeing the stat that said that Austin Wells' home run was only a home run in Yankee Stadium in the short porch and right, otherwise Sal would have caught? It was only a home run in Yankee Stadium in the short portion, right, otherwise Sal would have caught it. The home run that, I believe. Who was the other one that went deep on him? Was it Volpe? I don't remember off the top of my head if it was Volpe or not, but that home run was only a home run in like nine stadiums outside of Yankee

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Stadium. Some people just drive me nuts. Just drive me nuts. I think they do it on purpose. I think they do it on purpose. They just drive me nuts on purpose. So the Brewers been playing well and that's what we wanted to see. We talked about a little bit earlier there. We talked about the Queen Priester move at the top of the show, so if you missed it I'm not going to go over it again.

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No-transcript. The brewers made. They got, uh, mike cameron's son, daz cameron, I think it's his name there. Daz cameron was moved to the brewers there. Wolf graham uh the, what the heck was his name there? Wolf Wolf Graham the Brewers just pulled him up just the other day. And Grant Wolf Graham, the left-handed pitcher. He was sent to the Orioles. The Brewers received Daz Cameron back in cash. So, grant Wolf the deal basically happened because Wolf Graham was designated for assignment. So instead of losing him for absolutely nothing, they cleared space for Quinn Priester. So, instead of losing him for absolutely nothing, they made a trade. They made a trade at the Orioles. They got Daz Cameron, son of Mike Cameron. That's pretty cool. That's pretty cool there to get a guy like Mike Cameron's son in

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there. He hasn't done a lot. He's been in the bigs. He's been in the bigs for a couple times now, appeared in parts of four MLB seasons with the tigers 2022 or 2020 to 2022 and the a's 2024. He's hit 201. He's at 10 home runs night 39 rbi's there uh, 48 runs, 14 steals across 139 games. So not much to write home about, but cool move, I guess. So, yeah, that's what. Well, he got their dad's camera and hopefully a boatload of money. Yeah, probably not, but put the gap. So that's what. That's what we got for a brewer talking here for a minute. We'll wrap up the brewer talk. On the back side of the break we'll come back. We'll wrap it up here for the day. So can't wait to come back here on the show. We'll see you guys in a

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minute. Welcome back into wisconsin sports on the go with trades. I'm your host, trades. We're just wrapping it up here on this april 9th here in the great state of wisconsin. A great show today. Great show today. Thanks for ummer for coming on today talking packers. He's gonna be back each and every week here to talk packers with us. Kyle for coming on talking bucks we got to have him back more to talk bucks with us. Aaron should be back next week, should be back next week. Work got in the way this week. That's okay. It happens

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there. We are hoping to. On our off days of the radio, we're hoping to get live a few times there. Talk about brewers, badgers, anything crazy that's happening in the sporting world. We hope to get on there and talk about that coming up here pretty darn soon there. So to wrap us up for the day, we only got a short little time here, but to wrap us up for the day here, I just wanted to jump. We got brewer

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talk. I mean, we're talking about the brewers there before the break and it's so hard right now to preview. Like you, how do you preview ahead, ahead for the Brewers? Who are the Brewers going to be facing right for the Rockies? You can preview that portion, but outside, what do you like? How do you preview what we're going to see here? Because there's no outside of Freddy Peralta. We barely know who's pitching Right now. All that they know is that Alexander is slated for tonight's game, as we all know. As I'm talking here, the Brewers are probably playing, so Alexander is slated for

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tonight. Tomorrow is a question. Rodriguez is slated still for Friday. I'm hoping that gets changed. We'll see. And I believe, if I'm not mistaken, after we see it should be Rodriguez and then Patrick. So I don't know why it's still got a question mark for that game against Arizona on

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Saturday. But Burns, we get to face Burnsy on Saturday. I can't wait for that. I forgot. It's going to be Rodriguez versus Rodriguez. If the Brewers do stick with. What's his name for the

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Brewers? Alvin pitching. They got Eduardo Rodriguez, so we're gonna have Alvin Rodriguez versus Eduardo Rodriguez for the for the Arizona Diamondbacks. Nice, but they got Rodriguez, burns and Gallen all going back to back to back and then talk about facing a gauntlet of starters and I maybe I'm just overreacting, that could be right. You have Burns Gallen and then Skubal and then Flaherty Burns Gallen, skubal and Flaherty All in a row between the Diamondbacks series, and then you go face the Tigers and you get Skubal and Flaherty right off the bat. Wow, all right, right, we're gonna get tested. They're gonna find out if they can hit right right off the bat here this season. That is nuts. That is

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nuts. I did not see. I just was looking through the uh schedule coming up because I was gonna bring up a point that, like you don't know who the brewers are pitching, well, you don't know. I mean, looking at the schedule, I didn't want to know who was pitching against them, because, holy cats, that should be a heck of a series there. I mean, here we go, here we go. Right, you want an excitement. You get excitement with these guys. That is going to be a heck of some. Those are going to be some heck of some. Those are going to be some darn good matchups. Let's go with that. Some darn good

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matchups. Also, I saw the jerseys, the football jersey idea that they had. Those are pretty cool. I got to be honest with you. If anybody I don't know, I got to check out when that game is with the Brewers football jersey. But I got to get myself down there and hopefully grab one of them, because I see Jeff and Tim last night on the broadcast they had one up in the booth with them. So hopefully, hopefully, I can get my hands on one of them. Darn things. They're One of them, darn things. They're moving forward here. But hey, we got just a little bit here before we got to wrap it up for the

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day. I wanted to get over into one of our segments what's grinding my gears? What's grinding my gears? And the biggest thing coming off this last weekend that was grinding my gears absolutely was the Duke game. I talk about Duke too much, to be honest with you. I dislike Duke. I talk about it too much. I'll be honest with you. I dislike Duke. I talk about it too much. That game against Houston I got to be honest with you. If you're coming off that, and I saw so many people complaining complaining just to complain that Duke lost the basketball game and that the reffing didn't go their way. Welcome to our world, because for the last how many years? Years the reffing didn't go our way and it went your

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way. Asked, with 2015 national championship folks, what the hay happened there. What I recall was a ball went off winslow's finger and what I recall was first half we decided we weren't going to call much, but the second half we were going to call it all. But why are we only complaining about it now? Right, why are we complaining about it now? J Will. I hear J Will complaining about it. Well, first half of Florida and Houston. I think it was talking about Florida and Houston. There he's like oh, it's not calling nothing, it's not going to have to call everything, and I agree it got absolutely ridiculous. But they don't complain when the right team wins, they complain when it's the wrong team. That's what it is and it's

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ridiculous. Houston had a great season. Hats off to them, florida. They survived multiple games like that. They were losing to Auburn. They were losing to Houston. They were losing to Texas Tech. They were losing a lot of games and they found ways to win and win national championships. So hats off to what the Florida Gators were able to do to wrap up that season. But what's grinding my gears is that all this complaining about reffing all the time, do we

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not? I saw a tweet and it said Duke led by 14 with 8.03 left in the game. Duke led by 9 with 2.06 left in the game. Duke led by 6 with 34 seconds left in the game. Duke led by 3 with 25 seconds left in the game. Duke led by three with 25 seconds left in the game and Duke led by one with 19 seconds in the game and they

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lost. Why can't we just say John Shire didn't draw up any good plays? Why can't we say that I thought his inbounds play sucked. I thought Tyrus Proctor was dribbling around like he was running the show and I thought the shot that Cooper Flagg got that was the best shot you could get was a contested jumper. Sure, like I get, cooper Flagg is a talent, but the best shot you could find was a contested jumper for flag. That's it. Great call, great

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play. People complained about john tonjay's shot, right. A lot of bad fans said why didn't greg guard drop a better play? That's the best you could get for cooper flag. One of the best players in the nation, the best player in the nation, a lot of eyes Huh, it just absolutely irritates me. When we sit here we blame officials all the time. You had a 14-point lead with 8.03 left. You scored zero field goals in like 10 minutes. 10 minutes of gameplay. That loses basketball games pretty darn fast. So that's what's grinding my gears this week is people just blaming officials, just to blame officials? So, hey, we got to get out of here for the day. We are just about to the two hour mark

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But hey, we got to get out of here.

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Thank you all for tuning in tonight. We can't wait to get back here next Wednesday and talk with you guys again. So we'll see you next Wednesday here on the show. Until then, see ya.