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January 28, 2026 Hour 2: BadgerMBB, Bucks and more!

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Welcome, Sponsors, And Pancake Day

SPEAKER_04

Back into Wisconsin Sports on the Go with Trage. I'm your host, Trage, as we're coming back in here on this Wednesday for hour number two of the show here tonight. Hope you guys are enjoying your Wednesday. In this next segment, Christian stopping by. We're gonna talk a little badgers. This next segment is brought to you by Badger Tree Care. Do you got a tree that's become a problem? Call Trevor Barth at Badger Tree Care, your trusted insured tree service professional servant Clark and surrounding counties. Check them out there. Trevor Barth at Badger Tree Care. So Christian is here tonight. Christian, how are we doing? It's Wednesday. The Badgers coming off of a loss. Got Minnesota right around the corner. But that's besides the point. I want to know how are you doing on this Wednesday?

SPEAKER_01

Good, man. Just trying to stay warm. This cold snap's getting real old. Ready? I'm ready for spring. I'm ready. I'm ready for water to be done.

SPEAKER_04

It is absolutely ridiculous. But what might make you feel better is our fact of the day today. And our fact of the day for this January 28th. Did you know it's National Blueberry Pancake Day? I did not know that. See, there we go. Now we know. Are you a blueberry pancake fella? Like, are you a pancake?

SPEAKER_01

More, more I'm a big pancake guy, but more chocolate chip if I put anything in it. But I'm more of a purist. Just straight buttermilk pancakes, man.

Badgers’ Loss Autopsy: Shot Selection

SPEAKER_04

That's true. If you're gonna put something in there, you have to be precise with it. Like it can get messy. Just too many chocolate chips, not enough chocolate chips. Like there's a fine line in there before it's too much chocolate, not enough chocolate, too many blueberries, not enough blueberries. There's just there's fine lines you can't cross, and nobody can master it. That's I'm convinced of it. Nobody can master the chocolate chip pancakes. So that's just where it's at right now. So yeah, there we go. There's our fact of the day. National blueberry pancake day today. So we want to talk about something a little less exciting than blueberry pancakes. We want to talk about this Badger game that we just watched here this last weekend because man, was that a letdown. Like honestly, about as everything that could have gone wrong went wrong. Everybody who you want to blame in that game, you can try to blame in that game for some something that went wrong in that game. I mean, Christian, this this game, uh, you couldn't have shot worse if you're Wisconsin. And it wasn't just from three, it was everywhere that they shot poorly in this one.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Not, I mean, they were it seems like they got hot for it there at the end of the first half and start of the second half, right? But then after that, I don't know. Feels like definitely a game they could have put USC away.

SPEAKER_04

I think they got they got back to that old style of offense that we love so much. And that's the hero ball, the one-on-one, the lack of movement of the basketball. You watch them in that first half. What did they do? They were attacking the paint, they were getting inside, they were looking for kickouts, they were doing those little things, getting downhill. The things that we talk about with Wisconsin and the offense that they like to run, the movement of the ball. And in that second half, they went through a 12-minute stretch where I mean they didn't shoot a ball inside the arc. That's a problem, if you ask me. I don't know if anybody else has got that same problem. I have a problem with that. When you shoot 37 threes in a game, I have a problem with that, especially when you only make nine. It's not like you were feeling it. You got to find other. I know, I know inside the arc wasn't pretty either. They shot 23 for 67 on the game. They had a possession where they shot like five layups at the rim and nobody could find a way to get it to fall. They ended up balling out of bounce, they got the ball back. But one of those kinds of possessions, it's just like you got to find a way to finish at the rim. I don't know if it's a focus thing. I I don't know what it is, but that possession right there was like, oh my! Like, I love the hustle. I love the heart. Like if you went what went right in this game, I love the hustle. They were getting after guys. This was a game where it was ugly and they were battling for possession. Like I said, they had a possession where they had like five offensive rebounds. They were getting after it. I mean, they had the hustle, they were in it that in that aspect. It was just, I don't know if it was a lack of focus or what it was, but finishing was the problem in this one all the way around. I mean, they started, like I said, they started to find kickouts. They were looking good offensively, like you said, in that first half. They went on that big run. They went up by 12. It all looked like they were going to be in cruise control then. And then it all went south. And Greg Gard alluded to it. He said, you give a team like this some glimmer of hope, like Mazzara, right? He's been struggling. You give him that glimmer of hope. It was it was bad. And I don't know, Christian, watching John Blackwell in this game, I just felt like from a leadership aspect, he doesn't have it yet. I expect this guy to be the leader of this basketball team, and Mazzaro was cooking, right? He was he was having himself a night. John Blackwell is one of your better defenders, right? Yep. Maybe switch on to Mazzara of them. Do you go get him? Try to switch it up for a little bit. There wasn't that switch. And I know everybody's gonna allude back to Greg Guard, and Greg Guard's got to make that switch, which I would agree Greg Guard probably should have made that switch. But in a standpoint of leadership on the floor, John Blackwell could have easily said that too. John Blackwell has been there, done that. He's an experienced guy. He's got to get after him. I don't know. I just didn't like, I didn't like what I saw from Blackwell there in a stretch. I mean, early on, I liked what I saw. He was driving, he was getting downhill. What John Blackwell wants to, and he actually goes for it, gets downhill, gets to the rim, his mid-range is deadly. He is a really good score. But he goes away from that so often, he becomes so hesitant and he becomes hesitant to become the leader and take over games. I don't know, Christian, are you seeing that same thing out of John Blackwell? It just seems like he struggles to want to take over a game.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, you could I think you could say that, but I think also part of that too is it's a little harder to do that when you have Nick Boyd on your team. Right. Right. Not saying Boyd's a ball hog or you know what I mean, but I think the perf the last, very last, one of the last possessions is like the perfect example of that. Like down two, get the ball, you know, like 12 seconds left. And he Boyd literally just dribbles around forever and tries to get to the hoop and get I mean, granted, he was getting to the hoop almost whenever he wanted for a good chunk of the game. He had what 17 points in the first half, literally just doing that. So I get like his confidence doing that and stuff, but I don't know how many times I saw guys just standing around trying to move without the ball, doing whatever, and he he had no intention of passing. So I mean, like not absolving Blackwell of anything, because I agree. I think he definitely I don't know, it seemed like he's disappeared again. You know, if he's not like coming out on fire and having a huge game, it's like he's just non-existent. So I think I agree with you. I mean, damn, what do you even shoot?

Leadership, Matchups, And Defensive Lapses

SPEAKER_04

Like three for 13, one for seven from three. Jeez, yeah, yeah. Not not the game to have. Matt it's saying I want Blackwell, one of my better defenders, to check him too. I mean, when he's that confident, you want to be able to have a guy out there, whether it was Boyd or Roadie or whatever, I might be spacing on who it was. But one of those two, you want your better defender in Blackwell, a leader, to step up and say, Hey, let me take him for a little bit. Let me see if I can check him out of there, you know. So that's kind of where I guess I was leaning with that comment was having somebody step up and say, Okay, I'll take care of him. Because his confidence was through the roof. And like Guard said, once Mazzara's confidence got through the roof, he was knocking down shots left and right. You need somebody to step up in that situation, and that's supposed to be your John Blackwell. I thought there was too much settling for shots, too, early in shot clocks. Once again, I mean, rap many times they they wanted rap to shoot the basketball. That's what they wanted. The Badgers, what USC did was they packed it in. They said, We're not gonna let you beat us to the rim. We're gonna let you shoot threes. You can't hit, we're gonna let you keep shooting. They let rap keep dialing them up, try to hit, try to hit. After a while, I got to the point where I was thinking to myself, why don't you just run a smaller lineup? Carrington, Roadie, Blackwell, Boyd, and then put Nolan Winter in there, and that's it. Run with it. Because they're daring you to shoot threes. Rap's not feeling it. Why are we continuously trying to get him hot, trying to find his shot? It's not there. There's too much settling for shots. It wasn't just rap. I don't want to completely put it on rap. It was Blackwell, it was Boyd, it was Roadie, it was everybody. Where they were just settling for shots early in shot clocks, wasting possessions, no movement of the basketball, just quick trigger. And that's not when you're not feeling it on offense, that's not the easiest way to spark the offense, is just to fire one up at the rim, especially when it seems like there's a lid on there. So definitely just, I don't know, Christian, were you seeing it that same way with just uh settling once again for shots?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and again, like we've talked about this how many times this season? It's easy to be critical of them when they lose because it's usually a big part of it is outside of their subpar defense, is the fact that they just cannot stop shooting threes. And I know that's the offense. I get that. But I think at one point they were what three of 17, three of 16 for threes, like and that was in the first half. It's like at what point do you guys say, okay, we're just not feeling it? Let's try something else. But it's I feel like they just you know prescribe to like shoot to get hot, like eventually they're gonna start falling because we have seen them hit threes in a like a high clip at you know this season. But I don't know, man. Like you see teams shooting less than 20% from three. You'd think you and it like yeah, they finished nine of 37, which is 24%. And that was even like they got warm, I guess not hot. But they were like when you're not even shooting 20% from three, you think you change it up a little bit and say, you know, we got at least well that's the thing though. They were down double digits, came back and got up two at the half, and then got up 10, and then I don't know. Do you think it's like again, just settled for bad shots, like early in the shot clock in the second half when they were up 10? Or like why were they working it around a little more? I don't know. I just I think settling uh there they do some, it's almost like did they get conservative? Like they just kind of wasted some clock, dribbled around a little bit and then shot a three. Or I don't know, I think there are even some some possessions where it's like they dribbled down, kicked it, and shot a three within like five seconds of the shot clock. So I I don't know.

Bench Usage, Rotations, And Coaching Choices

SPEAKER_04

Well, I I think USC adjusted. They flipped the defense on him a little bit after the first half. Lloyd was slicing him. He was getting, like you said, getting downhill, getting to the rim, and then the second half they said, okay, let's pack it in. You know, let's let's prevent the driving lanes, which is something that I think Wisconsin did a terrible job of in this game. I think they allowed too much deep penetration, they allowed guys to get downhill, allowed USC to kick out the open shooters. USC isn't a very good shooting team, but if you allow them to get enough open shots, they're gonna find a way to hit them. And that's what Mazzara did in this game. He wasn't feeling it going into this game, but after this game, he's definitely feeling himself. This is a team that they get to the free throw line 28 times per game. They lead all of uh college basketball in that. They got there 23 times in this one, but that's due to, well, we were talking about it during the game there. There's a lot of they like to throw bodies, like they definitely like to John Tanja it, right? You know, a lot of people had a problem with him, and he'd get downhill and he'd throw his body and the refs would call it. That's exactly what they did in this game. They're good at it. They get downhill, they get that deep penetration, which is where my problem came in. Was Wisconsin's guards, and this is something that we alluded to early on in the season, we had a problem with was even against the non-conference teams, which weren't weren't the best of competition, they still had guards who were getting by Wisconsin. They were still getting that deep penetration, getting to their spot. Mazzara, really good in the mid-range, got to his spot. They they didn't allow him to get there, per, you know, you don't want to say they allowed him to get there, but they were struggling with defense. That's where they got, and it caused a lot of issues in this one. So I thought Wisconsin's defense in this one, it was, I don't want to say the worst we've seen all season, but definitely a letdown from what we've seen the past five games. Because I thought the past five games their defense has looked really good. They've been really good at cutting off driving lanes, really good at cutting off passing lanes and turning teams over. And in this one, I just it was the flip side of it. It was the opposite. It's like this team regressed back to what we saw. Now, you want to look past it. You want to say, okay, now we got Minnesota, right? But Minnesota watched this tape too. They watched it and said, well, if you can get Wisconsin to settle for threes, well, things can happen. You look at that, you say, okay, what are we gonna do to what are we gonna do to adjust to that, right? You gotta be able to hit down, you gotta be able to knock down shots. I mean, that's plain and simple. You gotta be able to knock down shots, but you gotta find some kind of a post presence in there, too. I mean, that's where a Bielowskis comes in. He only played 18 minutes in this game, had three fouls, but just really wasn't a factor in this game at all. They went with USC goes with a little bit of a faster lineup, so Bialowskis just wasn't the answer in this one. They went with Rap. I'm not gonna say that I thought that was the best decision to go with. I would have gone with Ran with Carrington and your other four. You had Nolan Winter and Blackwell and Boyd and Roadie. That's the four, that's the five I would have ran. Well, Jack Janicki only played five minutes in this game, which I thought was weird because I much as we've had problems with Jack Janicki, he only played five minutes, which was I don't know. He didn't utilize the bench a lot. I don't know. Here's a question for you what was worth burning Kings or his red shirt? If that's that's not gonna utilize them at all in games like this, right?

SPEAKER_01

Like that's especially when we talk about how much they shoot threes, like and it's right, that's that's what he does. So if like you said, if you're gonna burn his redshirt, why are you not using it? And then I mean, yeah, like to your point, I was looking at that too. They have like four guys come off the bench, and like yeah, you said Kins or uh Janicki had five minutes, and what did I think? I saw another one who had like someone had like only like three minutes.

SPEAKER_04

Garlic played three minutes, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Which I get because I mean, yeah, size-wise, and that guy just makes he is he's a freshman, he makes mistakes, right? But yeah, I don't know. There's not a whole lot I've seen out of Kinzinger that's like, yeah, he's unplayable. I mean right. I think you I think you gotta give him some minutes, just let him let him start figuring it out and get his shot going. Because I mean Jack Janicki, I mean, he's he seems like kind of that a glue guy, kind of like you would like to say utility player, but I mean he hasn't really shown a whole lot of like stuff. But like at what point does he kind of start taking his minutes? Because he's probably more of a scoring threat. I mean, he played five minutes, didn't shoot the ball, had one steal and one foul. That was all that was what he did. So I mean, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04

And again, this where shots aren't falling, too. Like you said, like shots in a game like this where shots aren't fallen, and you can't nobody can buy a basket. You have guys like King's around the bench. Hayden Jones has shown spurts of being something. Why not just give him a shot for a little bit? I mean, just give him a run for a little bit. Give Nick Boyd, he's gassed in this game. Give him a break, get him out of there. Blackwell, it's not like he was shooting that well. Get him out of there, give him a break. You have guys on your bench, and I don't know, we talked about it early on in the season where you wanted to figure out who your bench was and how deep you could go. We know we can go as deep as King's are. Why not utilize him? I don't even understand. Jack Janicki was feeling he Jack Janicki has been playing better. His offense has actually come around a little bit. He's not like he's lighting up the rim or anything like that, but he's playing well, and you give him five minutes of runway. You your starters play the majority of this game. They're gassed. USC's running all over the place. I don't, I just this game I thought was mismanaged by I there's a lot of Greg Guard haters out there who are gonna like this. I thought this game was mismanaged by Greg Gard. I thought that he didn't coach his best game, I thought his team didn't play their best game. And I mean that's that's where it starts, right? If Greg Gard didn't have his team ready, I don't want to say he didn't have his team ready to go, but if Greg Gard's off that day, his team is probably gonna follow suit. It's how it goes. Greg Guard, the game plan for this one, I don't know what the game plan was for this one. I really don't because watching it, it looks like they just threw it together and said, let's just run it out here on a Sunday. You know, we have NFC and AFC championships going on. We don't really care about this basketball game. It was just like one of those games where it was just a weird Sunday afternoon game that Greg Gard just threw together and his team just showed up. It felt like they were playing, it felt like the game plan for this game was for a mid-major team, not USC, not a pivotal Big Ten game where it felt like this was the difference between Wisconsin rising. We were talking about tiers last week, right? Wisconsin rising up to another tier or dropping back down to another tier. I feel like we just witnessed it right now. And I don't know, that's just kind of the vibes I got out of this game. Was this is proving Wisconsin belongs in that third tier. Yeah, this just proves that they're they're middle of the pack Big Ten team. They can beat anybody, but they can also lose to anybody. They can get that inconsistent that they can almost lose to anybody. So it's about finding that consistency moving forward if you're the Badgers now. So the Badgers, they have what's coming up next here? They have Minnesota coming up next. That's gonna be tonight. That's maybe tonight, eight o'clock tonight here. They got Minnesota coming up. So a little bit of a rematch from a couple, I mean, a week ago. It feels like a week, I think it's a week ago, that they played them where the you had the John Blackwell buzzer beater. It was uh one of those games where it was a struggle to the finish there, too. So this is gonna be uh this is gonna be a good game at the coal center here between Wisconsin and Minnesota. Hopefully the offense can get right tonight. We're gonna be talking about that on Saturday. We'll recap that game and we'll look ahead to Ohio State. I believe Ohio State's coming up this weekend too. 31st? 31st. Goodness, that's Saturday. So we're gonna preview, we're gonna recap the Minnesota game and preview the Ohio State game for you coming up Saturday here on the show. So, Christian, thank you as always for stopping by tonight. Let the people know we're gonna find you out there across social media.

SPEAKER_01

As always, find me at Christian Borman, check on my work at the badger back, or trying to stay busy, trying to try to, especially like if you guys are into like NFL draft stuff, trying to like get into like the shrine, the senior bowl, hopefully the NFL combine over the next few weeks here. Just keep up to date with the Wisconsin football players, too.

Looking Ahead: Minnesota And Tiers Talk

SPEAKER_04

Make sure you guys check him out. He's got fantastic stuff. He's keeping you up to date on the transfer portal, recruiting, everything in between badger basketball, every everything that you want to know, Badgers. He's got it over there at the Badger Backers. So when we come back from the break, Kyle's gonna stop by. We're gonna recap those NFC and the AFC changers. In here on this Wednesday. And hey, this next segment, Kyle is stopping by. We have the mellow yellow minute. We have some NFC AFC talk going on. We got everything going on in this segment. This next segment is brought to you by Ridgetop Exteriors, Central Wisconsin's trusted roofing, siding, and window pros. Visit ridgetopexteriors.com for more information. So Kyle is here tonight. Kyle, how are we doing? It's Wednesday, a brand new week here. How are we doing on this Wednesday?

SPEAKER_00

I'm good. Uh we're leading up to the big game. I can't wait. So I I'm over the moon, I guess as they say.

SPEAKER_04

Did you get any of that crazy weather in the south? Is that a hit as far as Georgia?

SPEAKER_00

We we got very little. You know, we got a little bit of like wintry mix, as they called it, but nothing too significant.

Kyle Joins: Weather, Trivia, And Brazil’s Top Sports

SPEAKER_04

Nothing like they got up just a little bit north here, just a little bit north through that stretch. I heard it was just a disaster in there. Nobody's got a snowplow down there. That's what matters. Nobody's got snow. I should have just taken my snowblower down there and just started just leveling people's driveways out for them. I'd have been the man. You could have got paid big bucks to go down there with a snowblower. Business opportunity just missed, Kyle. It just missed that. See, we just we we just we just lost out. We just lost out. But hey, we're not gonna lose out on this. We have the mellow yellow minutes, the trivia portion of the show here in honor of my grandpa. He loved mellow yellow, he loved trivia. We call it the mellow yellow minute. So starting in this new year, we've done top five sports in, I believe we've been to Japan so far, and then we went to England, we've been to Australia. Now we're going to Brazil. The top five sports in Brazil. And if you guys want to try to guess the top five before Kyle does, make sure you try. 715-990-4914. Then 715-990-4914. So, Kyle, I'm gonna list them off in no particular order, of course. And Kyle's gonna try to guess him five to one because he likes to go five to one. So we have volleyball, MMA, and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, basketball, motorsports, Formula One, as they call it, and their version of football, soccer. So Kyle, five to one. What do you got for me? Number five.

SPEAKER_00

There's actually a few sports I can see being five. But I will go five being basketball.

SPEAKER_04

It is not basketball.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Because five with is it F1 Motorsports? It is.

SPEAKER_04

It is in fact motorsports there at number five. So what do we got, Kyle? Number four.

SPEAKER_00

So four, I'm gonna go. Let's go basketball four.

SPEAKER_04

Basketball is number four. Basketball is number four there. We got volleyball, MMA, and football. Soccer left on the board here. Kyle, what do you got for me? Number three.

SPEAKER_00

Two and three are the tricky ones. So three, I will go volleyball. It is not volleyball. So three has to be MMA.

SPEAKER_04

It is MMA, number three. So you know number two, then, of course, is volleyball. Two is volleyball, one's soccer. See, I figured it you got you knew soccer the whole time. I just figured it was going to be the middle ground that would get you there. So hey, it was a good one there. So we have the top five sports in Brazil are in order soccer, volleyball, MMA, basketball, and motorsports. And then if you really want to get crazy and go down the rest of the list, and they got foot volley, a unique beach sport combining soccer and volleyball skills. Lucky for them, I have neither one of those skills. So I would be terrible at that game. But but we will give it a whirl sometime, Kyle. We'll give it a whirl sometime. What is this one? I don't even know how to say that word. I can't even say that word, so we're not even going to talk about that other one. It's some like traditional Afro-Brazilian martial art combining dance and acrobatics. I don't even know how to say the word.

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SPEAKER_04

That's the word, Kyle. That's the word that I'm yeah, Kyle's heard of all these sports, and I'm just sitting here like, yeah, I can't even kick a volleyball, so I don't know how to even play foot volley. So that's where we're at in this one here. So, Kyle, let's talk about something we might know something about. And that's the AFC NFC Championship games that we watched over this last weekend. Let's just start. I just want to hear from you which one of these two games was the most surprising, I guess, to you? Like, was there a game that you're like, I didn't see it going that way? Was there that game for you this weekend? Or were both of them kind of as advertised as predicted? This is what you expected?

AFC/NFC Takeaways And QB Performances

SPEAKER_00

Both were pretty pretty much how I expected it. The only thing was the AFC. I didn't know the weather was going to play as big of a part as it did, but I figured it was going to be a defensive battle between both teams. And I figured that the uh NFC had the chance to be somewhat of a shootout because those two teams have faced each other obviously twice in the regular season. The third meeting, they knew each other, so they kind of knew how to attack each other. The biggest I feel like the only thing that might have been a surprise was Darnold keeping up with Stafford in somewhat of a shootout, because Darnold obviously is the quarterback that you know still is trying to build up the profile outside of his Jets tenure. So that that might have been the most surprising thing was Darnold's performance in the uh in the NFC Championship game.

SPEAKER_04

I got a little Caesars ad throwing up over here on the on my thing. It was going all crazy on me the first second. I would agree. I would agree. That was, you know, everybody who wants to, everybody's hoping for that Sam Darnold's seeing ghost game. Like that, there's a lot of people out there who can't accept that he's good, like that he's playing good. The Vikings fans are probably sitting there saying to themselves, wow, we're terrible at judging talent because we let this guy walk out the door, and instead we kept JJ McCarthy, and we all saw how that went. So, I mean, yeah, the Vikings fans got to be rolling over at night, just can't sleep watching this. But Sam Darnold, yeah, I agree. He played really well and kept up with Matt Stafford in that game. That was a really good game. Both games were really good, different aspects, right? This was a lot of offense, this was a lot of really good passing yards from both guys in this one here. And then on the flip side of a defensive battle in that first one there, the AFC championship game. I liked what I saw out of the Broncos defense in that first half there, though. The weather wasn't as bad yet, and they did a really good job against Drake May. So I guess if you wanted to take a knock at Drake May, you'd say probably the first half, where it was like the weather wasn't quite a factor yet. And the Broncos defense just played really well. That's a really good defense, and they showed in that game, trying to hold it, hold them together there. Sitdham played about how we kind of expected Stidum to play in that game there. Nothing crazy. But I guess let's let's flip over to coach's aggressiveness. I kind of want to talk about that. Sean Payton in that game decided on a fourth, was it fourth and one there? He decided instead of kicking the field goal, taking the points, not guaranteed these days, as we know, but to instead of trying to take the easy points, he decided to go for it. Kyle, do you believe that there's a problem in the NFL with the analytics versus gut feeling? Because we sit here watching, we're like, man, why didn't you just take the points? Why didn't you just walk away with three? And you got a lot of coaches out there who at weird times will go for it and then at other times say, no, not really that, you know, like Ben Johnson, a lot of guys were complaining about him not going for two. Why didn't you go for two in that spot? You've been, you know, so good in those situations. And then he's like, well, you know, points, whatever. It's such an odd thing these days. So, Kyle, do you believe it's an analytical problem? Do you believe there's not enough coaches going with a gut feeling these days? Like, where where are you seeing it right now? Are you okay with the way it's trending? Because you have more coaches willing to go for it instead of just trusting their kicker to hit it.

SPEAKER_00

I mean, oddly enough, I think uh, because McVay also had a fourth down decision he had to make in in his game. I do think analytics has now kind of blended in to gut feeling, and I'm actually okay with it. I uh actually looked at both instances and thought they both should have taken the field goal. McVay, I kind of understood a little bit more because you're on the six-yard line, the end zone's right there. You you just get anxious and try to get too aggressive and go for it. The Peyton one was one I was adamant against because one, being the home team, he should have known the weather system that was coming through and should have been able to kind of uh prepare for it by taking the points there, go up 10-0. You s you know, you're looking at how your defense is playing against New England's offense. A 10-point lead seems like a big lead, and look, as the game turned out, 10 points wins you the game. So that one I I thought was a bad move, especially with a backup in Stidham. Take the points, give them the 10-point lead. You know, let you let your defense go out there and do what they were doing, stopping New England. And you never know, maybe you get a short field or something because New England has to be maybe a little bit more aggressive than they want to be. So I thought Peyton overplayed his hand on that one.

Fourth-Down Analytics Vs Gut Calls

SPEAKER_04

Right, especially with a backup quarterback in there who hasn't played in a hot minute. Now, like we said before, it's not like Sinnham played the worst game in the world, but when you have a backup quarterback and you're in that spot, sometimes it's easier just to take the points, move on with it. Like you said, tie it up. Your defense is playing well, it's a 10-10 game, just let it roll. But instead, got a little risky with it. Some, you know, some fans are okay with that, but in that situation, I'm I'm playing at least for a tie. You have a home game, like you said. It's a home game there. You have a good defense, trust your defense to be able to get a stop there. That's kind of where I would lean with it too. So I think sometimes analytics do get in the way of gut feeling because you you'll think about it, like you're sitting there watching the game, and you're like, ah, in this situation, I definitely, you know, like your offense isn't feeling it, right? It's not like they're moving the ball at will. Fourth and one looks like fourth and seven sometimes. So when you look at that, it's like, oh, maybe just take the points away from this. But you got a lot of aggressiveness now. The analytics are pointing towards that. That's where it's trending. So that's kind of what we're seeing right now across the league. So, Kyle, across the league right now. Let's talk about it. Coaching carousel. We've seen a lot of moves so far. I mean, just going down, I'll go down the list of guys. We got John Hardwall, he's going to the New York Giants, Kevin Stefansky with the Falcons, Jeff Affley with the Dolphins. We have Robert Salah going to the Titans, Ravens got Jesse Minter. We see Mike McCarthy going to the Steelers, and then Joe Brady is going to be the Buffalo Bills head coach there. The only three that haven't figured anything out Raiders, Browns, Cardinals. Those three are still up in the air for who they're going to grab. Out of the hires so far, Kyle, which one sticks out to you as okay, we can go good and bad. Which one do you think was a slam dunk, home run? There you go, hire. And which one of those hires are you going to sit there and question until it works?

SPEAKER_00

That's a good question. All right. So the one that I like is kind of a in conjunction Salah to Tennessee with Dayball going with him as the OC for Cam Ward. I like that pairing for not only just Cam Ward, but I feel like Sala with that defense where you have Jeffrey Simmons up front, uh Tavondre Stevenson. I'm I'm almost calling Tavandre Stevenson with Tavandre Sweat in the middle. I think you know he can get creative. You know, they have probably some positions to fill on that side, but I think Salah with his creativity can really turn that around. The one that I'm waiting and seeing on is McCarthy with the Steelers. I like McCarthy as a hire. I just don't know if Pittsburgh was the spot for him. McCarthy would have been a guy that I, you know, would have seen one of these teams where they might have a young quarterback. They're maybe a couple of years away from contending. You let McCarthy go in there, establish a base, and build. Pittsburgh, he goes in there day one, they're gonna expect him to do better than Tomlin, which means he has to probably win the division, make the playoffs, win playoff games. And on top of that, he's gonna have to probably have to win a Super Bowl pretty soon because Steelers fans are getting uh anxious because it's been a while since they won one now. And they're seen as one of the uh pillars of the NFL. So we'll see. Because my fear is they get McCarthy to bring Rodgers back. I think the Steelers need to go get a young quarterback finally that they can you know develop. But this seems like a Rodgers move. I don't know. I don't know if I like that one.

Coaching Carousel: Best And Worst Fits

SPEAKER_04

Well, I'm right there with you. I'm right there with you on it right now. It's uh if you bring Rodgers back, hopefully you can bring in a young quarterback and maybe Rodgers can be the help for him. I don't know. Rodgers isn't really hasn't really been pegged as that guy, but the locker room loved him. The locker room loved Rodgers while he was in Pittsburgh, so maybe that helps. Mike McCarthy, he has a thing for working with young quarterbacks. So hopefully for the Pittsburgh Steelers' sake, that I agree with both of yours, actually. I was gonna say Robert Salah too, because I think that's a slam dunk hire down there, especially getting Dable to come down there with him. So, Kyle, I gotta run here. Let the people know where to find you out there across social media.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so just search Chopin at the Bit, YouTube, Facebook, Podbean, easiest ways to find me.

SPEAKER_04

Make sure you guys check him out. He's got fantastic stuff. He's talking about those AFC NFC championship games over there. He's gonna be talking about the Super Bowl. He's got whatever Pro Bowl nonsense is going on these days. He's gonna be talking about that. He's got all of it over there at Choppin' at the Bit. So when we come back from the break, the Wisco Fanatics guys are gonna stop by. We're gonna talk a little bit of bucks. We're gonna talk a little bit about that Jonathan Gannon move there for the Packers. We'll be right back here on Wisconsin. We're gonna be here on this Wednesday. And hey, this next segment, the Wisco Fanatics guys are stopping by. We're gonna talk a little bucks, we're gonna talk a little bit of Packers. This next segment is brought to you by Foreman's Hardware. They offer you everything from home essentials to farm supplies, house to farm, grills to drills. Foreman's hardware has got you covered. Visit today in Loyal Kobe or Metford, Wisconsin. Tell them I sent you down there. Get 5% off. They're always running deals on everything. I was just down there yesterday. It was cold outside. I had to go grab some stuff. They had some warm weather stuff down there. Make sure you're checking them out, especially right now. It's cold. They got gloves. They have coats. They have it all. Check them out there. Foreman's hardware in Loyal Kobe or Metford. So I got the Wisco Fanatics guys here tonight. How are we doing, fellas? Jake, how are we doing on this Wednesday?

SPEAKER_02

Well, uh, some word of advice. Don't have a toddler because then you're just gonna have a cold every other week. Other than that, I'm doing fantastic.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, that's the truth. That's the truth. It's the daycare truth, too. It's like they bring home everything that they got there. It's it's a mess. Tyler, hopefully, hopefully you're doing better than Jake is tonight.

SPEAKER_03

I got an eight-year-old with the flu.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, wow. It's just that kind of night.

SPEAKER_03

It'd be like that sometimes. It's that time of the year, man. It is what it is.

SPEAKER_04

It's just that time of the year right now. This cold weather is miserable. And the worst part is the best thing for kids, get outside, get some fresh air. Right now, you're stuck in the house. You can't go outside. It just makes it all worse. I'm thinking about just building a little greenhouse shack in the backyard there with one of those ventilators and then just put the kid out there. Just let him run around in there for a while. He'll be fine. He'll be fine. So we got to get to our foreman's hardware. Who needs to bring the tools to an upcoming matchup coming up this week? Whether it's a team player, maybe it's uh front office personnel, what does it got to be? Jake, who do you got for me this week? Who has to be your Foreman's hardware? Needs to bring the tools to an upcoming matchup.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I got John Blackwell, and it's not just for his offensive ineptitude in the second half, I'll say. Um 3 for 13 overall, one from seven for three. He didn't crash the offensive boards well. He actually led the team in offensive rebounding uh with five. Uh he ended with nine rebounds. But I thought that maybe he should have taken a little bit of leadership when Ohio, USC's Chad Baker, Mazara was going crazy. I thought maybe John Blackwell should have switched on him and put a little bit more size, a little bit more physicality uh than Nick Boyd on him. I think that's something that, you know, that's another leadership step that John Blackwell can take. You know, if you're trying to be the leader of this team, he's one of the best defenders, he's one of the best offensive players. Now, on top of the defense, you know, like I said, he's he's the leader of this team, so he's got to put his head down and find a way to score, get to the free throw line when the team was struggling to score in the second half for multiple spurts. Um, he's the guy that has to lead that charge.

SPEAKER_04

Right. No, I agree 100%. John Blackwell needs to be that guy for the Badgers right now. So, Tyler, who do you got for me? Who needs to bring the tools to an upcoming matchup?

SPEAKER_03

I'm gonna go with Ryan Rollins. I'm sure we're gonna be discussing some of the bucks and some of the things that they're doing without Giannis in the lineup. Um, but going forward, I think the guy who's gonna have the largest expansion in role, no matter what this team decides to do over the next week and a half for the trade deadline next Thursday. Um, but I think no matter what happens, the guy that's gonna have the biggest increased role is gonna be Ryan Rollins.

Wisco Fanatics On Bucks’ Identity And Effort

SPEAKER_04

Right. No, I agree. There's gotta be a lot of things going in the right direction for the Bucs, who are very injury-riddled right now at some key spots. I'm gonna go with Gimme Brian Gudikins. Gimme Brian Gudikins and Matt LaFleur, the new uh uh DC hire Gannon coming in. They're gonna have to retool his room. Try to, I believe the backs coach is heading down to Miami 2, I believe, at this point. So I mean, they got to retool that room now. So it's up to Goody and Gannon and Matt LaFleur now to try to fix that because we saw last season the secondary. Um, there was some issue out there. There was some issue all the way around on the defense at times. So definitely gonna need the right guys in the room there. So hopefully Brian Goodigans can step up and make a darn good hire. Hopefully, hopefully, right? Moving forward. So let's jump over. We're gonna talk about Gannon actually here in a little bit. I want to get these guys' take on the hire. But before we get there, what we always come here to talk about, and that's the Milwaukee Bucks. Well, it has been, I would say, a struggle as of late here. So, I mean, let's just go with impressions off of what we've seen as of late. They dropped that game to the Thunder, and then they had that loss, the close loss there to the Nuggets. Postponed against the Mavericks. They couldn't get out of Dallas down there. So, thoughts as of late here, fellas. Tyler, starting with you, your thoughts as of late here of this Milwaukee Bucks team.

SPEAKER_03

Um, I'm really just kind of treading water, honestly, with the way the things are going with the Bucks. Um, obviously the Thunder are the defending champions and they played like it. Then you get the Nuggets again and you get down big, something that we talked about on our show a whole bunch of times. You can't give yourself huge deficits um in the first and second quarters, and then expect to just be able to run it in the second half and come back and win those games. Um that said, um, it is good that they probably made that comeback, ended up losing by two, and they were a half-court shot away from winning it. Um, but you can't be down by 16 points in every single game you play. Um so the the slow starts that they're getting off to, and then just kind of just doing whatever on the court and not really having you know an identity, something that Jake has talked about a whole bunch of times. Um I'm just kind of treading water and and just kind of seeing how John Horst views the Giannis injury in the trade deadline at this point.

SPEAKER_04

Right, right. Jake, what do you got for me? Bucks as of late impressions.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's been tough. Um not to sound too redundant, but uh, you know, they they got they got absolutely whooped up and down the floor against the Thunder. The Thunder led that game uh basically the entire game. Maybe early on. The Bucs had an early lead. Uh then you get to Denver and you're like, okay, rematch against Denver. Let's see what we can do. And the Bucs just decided to puke all over themselves again. And the Nuggets actually led 80% of the game. That cannot happen when they don't have their superstar, and we have our superstar. Now it comes out afterwards that Giannis aggravated that injury early in the game, and he just toughed it out and tried to play, and you know, he actually, you know, statistically he had a good game. Uh, but other than really Giannis, it was pretty bad out there. There was no offensive rhythm, very scarce ball movement. I mean, the identity of this team is just all over the place. And it's something that Tyler and I have talked about where the offense is really good at times. And I'm like, oh, okay, I see the vision here. And the offense is really, really bad, where it's like the ball sticks in one guy's hands for four possessions in a row, and then they try to pass it around, and they give it to a guy who hasn't touched it for half a quarter, and then they expect him to make the shot. Like, that's not how this goes. You don't allow people to get into rhythms. I feel the same way about the defense. They play very good defense at times. You know, switching, talking, getting tip passes, running out, you know, getting early offense, getting easy offense, and then at times it's like, is somebody on this team going to play defense? Like, I feel like I'm yelling the same things every single week at this team. And it's honestly, it's it's tough to watch. And Tyler and I are gonna deep dive into this. We're gonna have some really tough discussions on Wednesday. Uh things that need to be talked about.

SPEAKER_04

What do you think? Okay, either one of you can start here, but what do you think's leading to that inconsistency? Like you said, I mean, you're talking offensive end. It looks good, then it doesn't. Defensive end, they're communicating, they're talking, they're switching, then all of a sudden that just completely implodes. What's leading to that inconsistency? Is it is it coaching? Is it player personnel? Like, what is the discord? Like, what is the problem? What is the separation here?

Surviving Without Giannis And Trade Deadline

SPEAKER_03

I think it's fair to say at least some of it is coaching. Like, I'm not gonna sit here and say that Doc Rivers is a perfect coach. I also don't think he's 100% of the problem. Um, I think inconsistency with who's been on the court is part of it, and that's that's what Doc Rivers likes to bring up. He likes to bring up the inconsistency of playing time with the injuries that they've had. Um, they've they've really barely had a fully healthy roster at any point of the season because it seems like basically every time Giannis gets healthy, Kevin Porter Jr. gets unhealthy. Um, and that's just where they've gone. Um, obviously they've gone basically the entire season with O'Tori and Prince since like the first. Week of the season, basically. Um, I mean, they've missed Miles Turner for a couple games, obviously, like I said, Kevin Porter Jr. Um, so I think just the roster inconsistency with some of the injuries, and then the coaching, obviously, is a big aspect of it. And then the last thing that I would say, something that they've brought up, players have brought it up, coaches have brought it up, Giannis has brought it up, is as a lack of focus. I think that's definitely something that has shown. Um, and I don't know where that would stem from. You know, you can call it coaching, but I mean, players know that they have to focus on the game if they want to win the game. Right. Like, you don't need to tell professional basketball players that they need to focus on the game in order to win. Like, you shouldn't, you shouldn't have to tell professional basketball players to move the ball. Like, those are those are things that the players themselves should know regardless of who's coaching the team. Like, you you could you could pick somebody from the stands to go coach the team, and there should still be a pretty solid level of competence on the floor when you're talking about professional basketball players. So the the players own some of this too. And like I said, we'll see we'll see how horse views the rest of the last week and a day until trade that line next to the play.

SPEAKER_04

Jake, you don't feel is is there I don't know if this is the right way to phrase this, but do you feel like some players have mailed it in? Like just hearing that and hearing it's you know, it's it's something with what's going on with their focus and their mental focus on getting ready for a game and being in the game, being involved, whatever it is. I mean, in your eyes, is that maybe part, not not all players. I'm not, I don't want to say it's everybody on this team, but is there maybe some players you don't even have to name them, but like you can see it or kind of feel it when you watch them?

SPEAKER_02

There is a definite lack of well, there's a disconnect for sure. There's a there's a lack of effort there that that's the one thing that would that would really upset me as a fan. Like if you're gonna lose games and you're losing close games, like this technically ended up being a close game loss, the game against the Duncans, even though they were down by 23 points at one point. But losing by two, that's a close game loss. But the spurts of lack of energy, lack of effort is the thing that really bothers me. And that's what will bother, you know, the day-to-day working man, the blue-collar man, especially the people that are around here in the state of Wisconsin. Like, we're hard workers, we're blue-collar. We go to work, we work our nine to fives, we go home, we take care of our families. We expect our players to play hard for us. We don't expect you to win a title every year. Some people may have those unrealistic expectations. It's not going to happen. So maybe get on a lala land or maybe give me an extra ticket to that place so I can be happy every single day with unrealistic expectations. But you know, it's just the lack of effort. And I put, I do put a lot of the blame, and Tyler and I are different points of view on this. I put a lot of the blame on Horst. Because I think once he traded Drew Holiday, and again, I've been on record saying that I would make that trade too. I would trade for Damian Lowen. At that point, I would trade for Damian Lowen. But I think Horst tried to lean too much into the offensive, uh, offensive game, the way that the NBA was trending at that time. It's all offense, it's all offense. And once you lost Drew Holiday, that's when they lost their identity of defense. And since that point, he built this team. And to Tyler's point, he's talked about this, how they tried to surround Giannis with a bunch of shooters. It's like, hey, we're gonna spread the floor. This is gonna be a total Giannis team. Giannis is gonna get downhill, we're gonna spread the floor. They didn't surround him with enough defenders that helped them on the other end of the court. And that's something that we've talked about with other superstars and why we think Giannis is the best because he plays both sides of the ball. And other guys don't play up two sides of the ball. So the team building wasn't the best to me. The lack of effort and energy is something that you can point out with Doc. Maybe people are tuning him out at this point. And the rest of the season is really gonna be really interesting to watch to see how some players respond with the news that Giannis is out for four to six, is what they're saying at four to seven.

SPEAKER_03

And I've said no timetable, but yeah, it sounds like it's gonna be points.

SPEAKER_02

Sounds like it sounds like he re-aggravated it. So, you know, if if he is out for that long, it is what it is. Tyler and I have some opinions on what they should do with Giannis. And uh the next week and a half is really gonna be where you're gonna have to watch. And if 34 is still on this team, then there's a clear path to what 2027's gonna be.

SPEAKER_04

Right. I mean, okay, so yeah, let's just stick there. Tyler, what do the Bucks have to do to survive without Giannis? They don't have Porter right now, they don't have Giannis, both of them banged up. You're talking four to six weeks. I know it says no timeline, but that they just skew that out there sometimes. We're thinking that what the thought was is four to six. What do the Bucs do to survive until Giannis would return? Like, what is what does that look like?

SPEAKER_03

I think it doesn't look like surviving at all. And I also don't think that it means jumping off the deep end and committing, you know, basically ending your season and ending your franchise and rebuilding the franchise. I don't think it needs that either. But I think it's somewhere in between. And and this is what Jake is kind of hinting at and teasing a little bit is that we think the Bucks should just shut Giannis down for the rest of the season.

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Yep.

Packers’ DC Hire And Defensive Outlook

SPEAKER_03

Because Doc even talked about it a little bit, how the last time he came back early, and we were like, all right, good, we're gonna get Giannis back. We can go on a run in December, the schedule's not that tough, and they weren't able to do that. Lost Kevin Porter Jr. Two weeks later, we're losing Giannis again for another four to six weeks, and it's the same injury. It'd be a little bit different if it was like, okay, you know, he he has an ankle sprain from rolling his ankle versus a soft tissue injury like a calf strain, right? That has then led to another calf strain. Because here's the here's the big picture thing: how many injuries were preceded by calf strains? We've seen it happen to the Bucks. Damian Lillard's Achilles tear, yeah, Kevin Durant's Achilles tear when he was with the Warriors, those were both preceded by calf injuries. I'm not trying to rush Giannis back to a team that's seven games under 500 just for him to tear his Achilles, and then next year is completely screwed too.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

So I am shutting Giannis down. I am not letting him play another game with a calf strain until it is 100%. I'm not letting him play it. 80%, I'm not letting him play it. 90%, I'm waiting until he is 100% because I don't want to see a calf strain turn into an Achilles injury, and then he misses 26-27, and then you're looking at this summer trying to extend the guy who's gonna miss the first season of that extension. Yep.

SPEAKER_04

So I mean I'm not thinking about surviving, I'm thinking about the future. You gotta think about next year. Like you like you're saying, you gotta think about next year, you gotta think about that kind of future too, at times, because you're looking at it as well, if you bring them back, right now the trajectory that you're on with all the injuries that have plagued you, it's heading south fast. No point on rushing into it.

SPEAKER_03

It's different if they were like the 5C.

SPEAKER_04

Right, right, 100%. And right now you're kind of on the outside looking in already. And I mean, the way that it's heading, it's gonna look worse better, then it's gonna look better. So, I mean, okay, real real quick trade deadline, this affects it massively. I mean, what are you guys doing now? Now that you know the Giannis injury, the Porter injury, what are what are you guys leaning towards now with the Bucs?

SPEAKER_03

I don't want to necessarily say the tank, but like obviously we're gonna be focusing on the draft pick. The Bucs have their own draft pick for 2026. People need to get it out of their minds that the Bucs don't have their own pick just because uh the Atlanta can swap it with New Orleans pick. Atlanta gets the worst of the Pelicans or the Bucs pick. That's where we're at. So the Pelicans right now are really, really, really bad, whereas the Bucs are just hurt and kind of bad. That's what that's where we're at. Um, so 2026 is a loaded draft. Everybody's really excited about it. So my thought as as the trade deadline approaches next Thursday is to trade as many of the expiring contract guys as you can to try to get second round picks. If people are willing to give you first round picks, if you you know do some stuff back and forth, you know, I'm fine with that. Um you still need to trade Bobby Portis. Like there's there's nothing that Bobby Portis is gonna do for you for the rest of the season that is going to benefit you in any way for next year. Um, so my my focus is to try to get some more picks for this summer to trade Bobby Portis and then take every single minute that Giannis or Bobby Portis were gonna play and give them all to Pete Nance. I'm totally fine with Pete Nance playing 35 minutes a game for the rest of the season. That's where my focus is at. Getting assets, playing Pete Nance at top.

SPEAKER_04

I like it. I like that. Jake, anything to add to that?

Closing Rant: Have An Opinion

SPEAKER_02

No, just the growth of the young talent that you have on the roster is going to be the key for the rest of the year. Um, again, I wouldn't call it tanking because I still think that the Bucs with young talent, if they start vibing, you never know. Basketball's weird like that. You get you gain some momentum, and then all of a sudden you're in the play-in. Um, I would still shut Giannis down. Tyler and I are on the absolute 100 same page with that. Um, and then yeah, uh ditto to everything else Tyler said.

SPEAKER_04

Right. No, I agree. I agree with the guys 100%. I mean, there's no point in rushing Giannis back. You want to see your young talent grow, anyways. You're kind of in that mode right now, and who knows? Basketball's crazy, and like you guys said, and I mean, you could end there's 10, there's 10 spots now. You could end up in a play-in game, and anything can happen at that point. So, before I let you guys go, Jonathan Gannon hired by the Green Bay Packers. Just quick thoughts when you saw the hire, your reactions. Jake, starting with you, what do you got for him?

SPEAKER_02

Finally, somebody with an edge. Finally, somebody with an edge that's gonna bring the emotions out of these players so we start hitting some people like it matters. I was so happy with that. I wanted Jim Leonard at first because schematically he's fantastic, but give me the guy with the energy who brings the edge.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, we'll fight a guy on the sideline, even his own guy. Tyler, what do you got for me?

SPEAKER_03

I mean, I agree with him. I mean, somebody let a lot actually fire some people up. Um, it'll be interesting to see if he coaches from the sideline or from the booth like Hafley did, but um I think there's way too many people going, oh, he was a bad head coach in Arizona when he wasn't calling the defensive plays there. People are still thinking, oh, he's the head coach. Yes, he's coaching the entire team, not just the defense. So I tend to focus more on what he's coming here to do, which is to be a defensive coordinator, not a head coach. And I looked at his previous defensive head or a defensive coordinator uh uh tenure at Philadelphia. So looking at how much that team improved, like they went from 11th to first in passing yards per game from his first year to the second year, and they went from 28th to 7th in takeaways. Two things the Packers need to be dramatically better at. So that's that's what I'm focusing on is that he can help the Packers in two super specific areas that they need to improve on.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I'd like I'd like to end on this. One other thing that the Packers need to improve on is tackles for loss and sacks. His last year in Philadelphia, Philadelphia had 70 sacks and 69 and a half tackles for loss. For comparison, the Packers had 36 sacks last year and 32 tackles for loss. So if you can double those numbers and give me some takeaways, I think Jordan Love with the ball in his hand is gonna throw 45 touchdowns. So let's go.

SPEAKER_04

All right, all right. Well, and you gotta look at the Cardinals, too. They were bad, and then they had a lot of bad injuries too to a lot of their actual good players. So that did not help at all in his case there. So thank you guys as always for stopping by tonight here on the show. Let the people know where to find you out there across social media.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so Wisco Fanatics, Facebook, YouTube, TikTok, Twitter. Um, we will be live on Wednesdays at four o'clock to discuss the Bucks, Brewers, and Badgers basketball and football teams. And then uh we're into Packers offseason now. So uh we'll have our draft series and our free agency shows uh schedule posted soon. Um, but our next show is going to be February 24th, and that'll be Tuesdays at 8 o'clock, and then after that, we'll take another couple week break and then we'll start ramping up for the draft. So um, no Tuesday shows up coming immediately, but keep an eye out for our schedule uh that'll be coming up and make sure you guys check them out.

SPEAKER_04

They have fantastic stuff. I love those draft shows because they go deep dive, they go deep dive into all the picks. Everybody that you could possibly want, they go into it. So when we come back from the break, we're gonna wrap it up today. Trage, I'm your host, Trage, and we're coming back in here on this Wednesday, wrapping it up for the day here. And this next segment of the show here is brought to you by Peggy Sue with Century 21 Gold Key Realty. She knows the area and the market dedicated to powering your property goals with proven strength. Check her out there, Peggy Sue with Century 21 Gold Key Realty. So we're wrapping it up for the day here on this Wednesday. And I just wanted to hit one last thing. What is grinding my gears this week? And you know, as the show was going on, I was scrolling through social media. And man oh man, it is hard to have an opinion as a fan these days. It is really hard to have an opinion. I'm just scrolling through there, and whether it's the Jonathan Gannon news or it's the Freddie Peralta trade, it doesn't matter. Whether you're on one side of the fence or the other, you'll just be attacked if you go after one one way or another. I mean, that's having an opinion these days isn't the right thing, I guess. So I'm here to tell you have your opinion. Have your opinion on anything. Because my goodness, it just grinds my gears going through the comment section. And all I see is people attacking other people about this and that and everything between them. It's for it's sports, it's meant for debate, it's meant for fun, but don't go after people. Don't go after people in a comment section and then have it turn into something completely off base of whatever you even started talking about. It's just it drives me nuts. It drives me nuts going through social media and seeing that stuff. So, man oh man, just have your opinion. That's what we're here for. We love your opinion. Your opinion matters here on the show. And make sure you're always making it heard. 715-990-4914. Always hit me up. Let me know your opinion on anything happening with Wisconsin Sports. So that's about all we have for the day here. We'll be back Saturday, 10 to 11. We're gonna talk about the Badgers. They got Minnesota coming up tonight. We'll recap that game. Hopefully, a Badgers win. We're gonna be talking about that Saturday here on the show, most likely some more Packers because we know some stuff's gonna happen between now and then. So we'll get into that. We have a boatload of things we're gonna hit Saturday here on the show. So, with that, this has been with Scots and Sports on the Go with Trage. Thank you all for tuning in. I hope you guys enjoy the rest of your Wednesday and the rest of your week. But until we talk to you guys again on Saturday, studio.