March 28 2026: March Madness, Badgermbb, Brewers and Packers

March Madness gives us a Big Ten moment we still can’t believe, then we turn that same accountability lens back on Wisconsin and why tournament success keeps slipping away. We pivot to optimism with the Brewers’ Opening Day rout and finish by sizing up the Packers’ quieter offseason with Ummer.

• Nebraska’s four-player crunch-time mistake and why officials don’t have to warn you 
• Big Ten teams advancing and why it makes Wisconsin’s exit hurt more 
• The NIL era and whether expectations for Badgers basketball should change 
• Why we think Wisconsin needs tougher scrappers and a better defensive identity 
• Brewers Opening Day win over the White Sox and what it signals 
• Jacob Mizorowski’s bounce back after the leadoff homer and the mental side of pitching 
• Joey Ortiz, David Hamilton, Sal Frelick and lineup roles worth watching 
• Chad Patrick’s slot in the rotation plus Brewers pitching depth in Triple A 
• Packers offseason additions, departures and why we see it as targeted depth 
• Cornerback, defensive line and offensive line needs heading into the NFL Draft 
• How close we think Green Bay is to a Super Bowl and what still has to improve 
• Brewers breakout candidates we’re calling now plus the Gary Sanchez vs Quero plan 

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Welcome And Weekend Sports Rundown

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This is Wisconsin Sports on the Go with Trade. Your place for all things Wisconsin Sports. Now, your host, Trage.

March Madness Chaos In Big Ten

Badgers Tournament Frustration And Expectations

Brewers Opening Day Blowout

Mizorowski Bounce Back And Mindset

Brewers Depth Questions And Rotation Talk

Packers Offseason Moves With Ummer

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How are we doing, everybody? And welcome into Wisconsin Sports on the Go with Trage. I'm your host, Trage, as we're coming in here on this Saturday. I hope you guys are enjoying your Saturday so far here. I hope you guys have enjoyed your weekend since we talked last this last Wednesday here on the show. A lot has happened since then. The Brewers got the opening day win against the White Sox. I want to talk about that today here on the show. Get into a little bit of Brewer talk. I have some questions that were sent into the show here that I was I was going over a lot of questions on Wednesday there on the show. And if you guys missed that, make sure you listen across the podcast platform. You can hear all the the bold predictions and the questions heading into the 2026 championship season here. But I have a couple more I want to get into today on the show. So we're going to get to that. A lot of stuff dive into. But right away, I want to start with the madness. Marsh madness, right? Basketball games, galore still going on, Sweet 16, Elite Eight gonna underway this weekend here. As I'm talking, there's some games happening right now here on Friday night, but there was a crazy game that happened between two Big Ten teams, Iowa and Nebraska. And I I've got to say, I have never, I've never seen this before. I've never seen this before. And I don't think many people have. Nebraska had four players on the floor at one of the most crucial moments of the game. Under a minute to go, three-point game. Iowa had the ball, and Nebraska came out of that timeout and only had four guys on the floor and led to an Iowa and one at the other end there. They just went deep and one at the other end of the floor, and the finish was what it was. Iowa walks away with it. They move on to the Elite Eight to take on Illinois. We're gonna talk more Big Ten here in a second, but just a wacky way that game went. And the only thing I could find, because listening to Hoiberg after the game there, he said, you know, he put it on. I I like Heyberg as a coach. He's done a fantastic job with Nebraska. He, like he said, he puts it on him. That's on me, and this and that. Oh man, though, I that can't just be on Heuberg, right? I know end of the day, he's the head coach of this basketball team, and final say is his, and he's gotta be the guy that notices stuff too. I I agree with all that, but it's also on guys on the floor, too. I mean, man, you look around, you gotta know it's like one, two, three, four. There's only four guys out here, you know. So I'm it's on Hoiberg because he is the head coach. His assistant coach is sitting there too. There's guys on the floor, there's guys on the bench. Nobody noticed there was only four guys out there, really. That's the only guy who is supposed to like, I know Heuberg's gonna take the blame, and this is on me. I get all that. But man, oh man, there's gotta be ownership from everybody on that team to say, well, we should have noticed this too. The assistant coaches should have noticed. Hoyberg should have Heuberg's thinking, okay, I just got my guys ready. We set up the defense. We're we were just talking about this. He's looking everything over, looking at what you know, what we're gonna see out of Iowa here. And his assistant, what is his assistant coaches doing? What are the guys at the end of the bench doing? Like, man, oh man, it just would drive me nuts. I know I'm sitting here as a badger fan yelling about Nebraska stuff, but that that was baffling. And the only thing that I could see online, because somebody asked him about it, they said, aren't the officials or do the officials have to tell you about that? And I saw many different I did on like I went down a rabbit hole trying to find this, and I went into a bunch of, there's like official forums where like people were asking questions on there, and then they were getting answers from others. And then I so I call I saw a couple instances where they were given examples of what could happen. And technically, if one of the Nebraska guys would have came back in and would have hindered the play in any way, let's just say he came back in and ran up and grabbed the ball, something off the bench like that. It could have been seen as one way versus another, it could have been assessed as a technical foul. So there's a lot of different ways that it could have worked, but the officials technically don't have to alert you for only having four guys on the floor. They have to tell you if there's six because there's gonna be a technical foul that's gonna be assessed there. They tell you if there's seven or you know, crazy amount of guys on the floor, but they don't technically have to tell you there's four. You're just putting yourself as a at a disadvantage at that point there. So from all my deep dives, I learned that you technically don't have to be you're you aren't gonna be alerted by officials. That needs to be on the head coach, that needs to be on the assistant coaches, players at the end of the bench, whatever, leaders on this team. It needed to be a household effort of guys like seeing this, and I mean just craziness that happened there in that Iowa-Nebraska game. So Iowa moves on to take on Illinois in the Elite Eight. And like I said, as we're talking, I'm watching some of these other games here. We have Michigan's in action, Michigan State's in action. But just even without those two, you still have Purdue moving on to the Elite Eight to take on Arizona. You still have, like I said before, Iowa taking on Illinois in the Elite Eight. You had a lot of Big Ten teams make it through the Sweet 16. And it makes the Badgers loss feel that much worse. I might be that one person who feels this way. I don't know. There might be more out there, but I just feel like now, now watching this tournament keep going, you beat Iowa this year, you beat Illinois twice this year, you beat, you beat Purdue, you beat Michigan State, you beat Michigan, you've beat all these teams that are slowly moving on in March, and here you are getting bounced out of the first weekend again. And it just drives me nuts. It drives me nuts. It makes it all feel that much worse. You're happy for the Big Ten, right? You're happy that the Big Ten continuously is finding ways to push teams through because it has been for a while now where they were kind of looking down on the Big Ten because they said, well, you guys have a good regular season teams, right? But you don't do good in March. And the Big Ten hasn't had a championship in a very long time. So it has constantly been this drag on the Big Ten. So to see some Big Ten teams make it through makes you feel great for as a Big Ten fan. But as a fan of the Badgers, you're sitting here saying to yourself, Why? Why not us? Why not us? Why Iowa? Why not us? That's it's just man, it just stinks. It just absolutely stinks. And I I saw a video, and it came off of a guy out of, I think it was Jim Rutledge there from ESPN Madison, and he had a take on the Badgers and where they're kind of sitting right now. And do we need to essentially wrapping up what he said, you can look back at his videos and watch what he said there. But he said, do we have to lower our expectations for what the Badgers are here currently in NI with the NIL? You know, because getting, he said, getting into March and them getting past the Sweet 16, they would be almost like a Cinderella team right now. They're closer to being a mid-major team at this point than they are to being a major team, to being a blue blood, right? And I don't think the Badgers are a blue blood team. Like I will, I'll I'll say that. I don't think they're a blue blood team. I think you'd be crazy for saying they're a blue blood team. But do I think they're closer to a mid-major team than they are? No, not even, not even in the slightest. Do I believe that? Because when you look at this Badger team right now, what they've been able to do consistently here. I know they had a few years where they missed the tournament there or they went NIT and stuff like that. I understand that. But what Greg Gard has been able to do with the Badgers here now over the past couple years and been able to retool, get, I mean, really good players into the system at this point here, or to help develop really good players. I mean, who was John Tanja before he showed up at Wisconsin? But then when he was in Wisconsin, he was fantastic. Nick Boyd, before he got to Wisconsin, he was a good player. I'm not gonna say that Nick Boyd wasn't a good player before Wisconsin, but now when he's at when he was at Wisconsin, fantastic. AJ Storr, best season at Wisconsin. Johnny Davis, look good at Wisconsin. There, you've seen guys come through now that have been great underneath the Greg guard, great at Wisconsin. And it makes it that much worse when you look at what they've been able to do during the regular season and to call them closer to a mid-major, that's I don't think so. Because you went to Ann Arbor, you beat Michigan, you beat, you, you stopped Michigan State at home or well in the coal center, you beat Purdue on the road in Mackey, you beat Illinois in Champaign and in the Big Ten tournament there. You've beat really good teams. You've had a lot of really good wins over the past few years here. So to say they're closer to a mid-major, I don't agree with that. The lack of tournament success, I'll agree with that. They've they stink in March. Greg Guard stinks in March. That's plain and simple. They need to find a way to get over the hump in March. I agree with that. I agree with that a hundred percent. And I've said it a million times. They're missing pieces on this team. What are they missing, right? You're gonna go after every season, you're gonna look back and you're gonna say, well, and I can get everybody who's probably saying right now, well, of course they're missing pieces, right? They didn't make it, so they got to be missing something. That's 100% truth, right? They've got they have to be missing something. I think they're consistently missing one big thing, and that is scrappers on this team. Scrappers. Just guys who are just gonna go get it. Guys who are gonna put it all on the line when it means the most. When it just this team, these teams that I'm watching right now that we're seeing, I feel like they don't have that edge when it comes to tournament play. I don't, I don't feel like they have that edge. Like they, like they want it more than that mid-major team that gets in there, right? High point. You look at the offensive rebounds in that game, and they I couldn't believe because Illinois was one of the best offensive rebounding teams in the country going into those games against Wisconsin. And Wisconsin did a great job against them, and they have some really big guys on that roster, seven footers, and then high point, their tallest guy's what, six, eight? And the Badgers allowed like 13 offensive rebounds to high point. So when you look back at these tournament runs and you look at these games where they play some of these, you don't want to say lesser teams, because I don't think high point was a, I don't think they're a terrible, like they're a good team. I think high point's a good team, like a good team. They had a lot of good players on that team. So losing to high point, if you lost and you would have had like a sweet 16 appearance last season, you don't feel as bad. It's that constant losing in the first round, losing out of the first weekend that I think is starting to get to a lot of Badger fans and getting and irritating a lot of Badger fans is because you put together these rosters, you look good, and then you get to March and it falls apart. And now you have people that are saying that Wisconsin's closer to a mid-major because they can't get past the first weekend in March. I don't think that's the case. I think getting to when you getting to March and being a consistent March Madness team or a tournament team and having consistent, good Big Ten seasons is a is a feat. It's good, it looks good. Everything's great. Like doing all that is some there's something to be said about it, right? You can still call it a successful season, even if you don't have that major success in March. I still think there is success in the regular season. But now it's about with this team, with this, you know, with Greg Guard and this team, it's about how do you take that next step in March. I don't think it's as much of, well, this team's closer to a mid-major. I don't think that's the case. I think this team just they just got to get tougher. And Greg Guard has to get guys who are tougher into this program. It's a really hard thing to do nowadays with the constant turnover with NIL, with all of that that you have to deal with. Now you're in a spot if you're Greg Guard where you're constantly dealing with the turnover, and how do I replace these guys in my program? And then on top of that, you're replacing it with seniors, older guys, bringing them in. There, that's adding to the constant turnover. You can't just build from within as much anymore because guys are going to transfer out. If they don't play within the first year or two years, they're going to transfer out, they're going to go elsewhere, they want to get playing time. You understand it. Maybe they can go get money elsewhere, everything like that. You don't blame the the athlete as much because they're allowed to do those things. But where the badgers are sitting, and just to kind of wrap it all up in one, where the badgers are sitting right now, I wouldn't say they're closer to a mid-major team. I would just say right now, they just stink in March. And now we're all just kind of losing our minds because we don't know what to think and where how they get past that. And I I don't I don't know because I felt like they've put together some pretty good teams. They just run into problems when it comes to March. No matter if they're hot going into tournament or not hot going into tournament, it's the constant same problem. And that's where I feel like this team, this this program just needs tough guys. They need scrappers, they need guys who are just gonna go out there and they're gonna play physical and they're gonna get after it, and they're gonna go get you that offensive rebounds. Those are those are the guys that this program's missing. And that's what I think flips the script for this team. I don't think it's a complete regime change. I don't think it's a complete like blow up the roster. I think it's adding depth, adding pieces to this team, adding, adding some tough guys. I really do. So do I think, like I said, I don't think this team is closer to a mid-major than they are to a major. I don't think they're a blue blood. I don't think they've ever been in that conversation of being a blue blood. I think they're a consistent tournament team. A lot of teams in the Big Ten would love to be where Wisconsin's at. Now it's just about Greg Gard and Wisconsin taking the next step. We'll see how he does it. We'll see how he builds this roster up going into next season here. We're gonna see the transfer portal open up. We're gonna see guys jump in. I'm just waiting as everybody else is to see what guys like John Blackwell and Nolan Winter and those kinds of guys do. We're waiting. Everybody's waiting to see that. So we'll see what happens there. But again, I think that's a crazy, it's a bold take. Everybody's entitled to their opinion, but that's where I'm at on this Wisconsin Badger program. It stinks to see the rest of these Big Ten teams moving on in March, but I think it comes with the toughness aspect. I think it comes with the coaching aspect, and I think Greg Gard has to be better about who he's putting into his program because he's bringing good players into this program now. But I think it's about surrounding him with those tough guys, with those just workhorses, guys who are gonna go get it. I think he's lacking that on these rosters right now. And I think if he addresses that, I think he gets himself over that hump because you're seeing on these teams, these big 10 teams that are moving on in March, they have those equalizers, right? The guys who there's good offensive players on these teams, and then there's good defenders, guys who can shut you down, guys who can get after you, guys who are going to be tough-nosed players, and I think that's what this team's lacking right now. Because for every good offensive player, you could not have told me this last season the Badgers could have got you a key stop. I I wouldn't have trusted them to get a key stop in a game. I you needed the ball. If you didn't have the ball, I didn't trust them to get a stop. That's just playing, I that's just where I'm at with this team. Like they just defensively never had it this year. And I think that's where you need to address. Right now, with this Badgers team, Greg Guard's done a great job adjusting to the times and trying to work more of an offensive approach. I think he needs to find a happy medium. I think he needs to find a happy medium in between. I think he went too far one way, and now it's if they shoot the lights out of a building and they put up 95 points, they're gonna beat anybody. But if they can't, they struggle. And we saw that all season long. When they're hot, they can beat anybody. When they're cold, they're cold. And it's hard for them to find other ways to score, and it's hard for them to get stops. So that's why I'm saying you bring those tough guys into this program because when you look at the rest of these Big Ten teams and how they've been able to do it, look what Illinois did, a team that's just absolutely fantastic offensively. They held Houston to 55 points and they only scored 65 themselves. They played a grinded out game, and that's where Wisconsin needs to find that happy medium where they can be that style of team too, where they can play both ways. They can get up the floor fast, they can hit, they can hit shots, but in a game where it's a grind them out game and the shots aren't falling, they can still find a way to win that game defensively, get after teams, and that's where the tough nose guys get into it. And that's where I think the difference between the Big Ten teams we're seeing in March right now versus the Badgers. I think that is my difference. So I don't think they're closer to a mid-major team, but I think there's adjustments that have to be made in the program, personnel-wise, and also in play style that I think will help this team over the top there. So when we come back from the break here, we're gonna talk some brewers. We'll be right back here on Wisconsin. Wisconsin Sports on the go with Trage. I'm your host, Trage, as we're coming back in here on this Saturday. I want to talk a little bit about the Brewers now. Got the opening day win, 14-2 over the White Sox there. It was a fantastic way to start out this 2026 championship season, just because it made it feel that much better because the way that it started last season, and a lot of fans out there who were throwing in the towel after the first couple games, the first series, especially of the year, where the Yankees just completely put it on the Brewers. Now you see the Brewers start out a year where they just completely put it on the White Sox there, 14-2. I think there's too many people who take. Okay, so I I saw a lot of people across social media talking about, oh, the Cubs lost, and the Cubs lost to, I believe it was the oh, who the heck did they play? The Nationals? I think they played the Nationals there. And they lost that game to the Nationals, and a lot of people coming out like, oh, well, you know, the Brewers beat the White Sox and they were a terrible team last year, so they put it to them, and that's why. And the Cubs, haha, they lost to this Nationals team that stunk last year, and now they lost to them 10 to 4. And yes, they lost 10 to 4. So it makes any opening day terrible. And watching Matthew Boyd get lit up was awesome to see, and I'm glad to see the Cubs lose. I am, but I don't really take into stock well they should have beat this team because they stunk last year or blah, blah, blah. I really don't take it into that. The Cubs lost. Like, that's awesome. I love to see the Cubs lose. Like, that's awesome. And I love to see them lose to a team in the nationals. I want the nationals to be good, so maybe they're gonna be good this year. I don't know. But I don't take the, oh well, it's just because they were bad last year that that's what makes it so much worse. I don't, I don't think so. So, anyways, anyways, enough about that. Let's talk some Brewers. Brewers get the win against the White Sox 14 to 2. They just put it on them. And my favorite part of the entire game, or I guess, well, my favorite, I guess, coming off this was Jacob Mizerowski's bounce back. That's what made me feel really good about him. Gave up the leadoff home run there, and then after that, struck out the side and then went on to have a fantastic day, a fantastic outing. That's five innings, two hits, one earned run on the game. There, 11 strikeouts, three walks. But just the bounce back. Because when you see young pitchers, especially in a moment where you know it's opening day, the juices are flowing, and you give up a leadoff bomb, you could see young pitchers who have control issues at times kind of fold, right? You didn't see that out of Jacob Mizorowski. And that made me feel great about the trajectory and what he could be capable of doing. Because it's not about always, you know, what they look like in their best moments. It's about what they what how do they bounce back from their worst? And that's what I think we saw in this game was Jacob Mizorowski bounce back from his worst moment, which was giving up that leadoff home run, and then striking out the side, and then going through the rest of those four, five innings of work there, and just looking good the whole way through. That's what made it that much better. So I love the outing on Jacob Mizerowski. I love the fire everything that he brings. He had an awesome outing. I'm glad he didn't try to reach back for 104. I know there was that deal that they made, Pat McAfee, I believe. And they made that deal that he would donate money to Jacob Mizorowski's foundation there. And that's awesome to see that he do something like that. But I'm so glad that he didn't reach back for a little bit more because when you have a guy who reaches back for just a little bit more, sometimes that can lead to bad things, especially with guys like Ms. Rowski who are flamethrowers. It can lead to bad things. So I'm glad that he just said, I'm just gonna go out here and pitch. I'm gonna do my thing. You love to see that there. Jacob Mizerowski's got this really good ability where he can kind of control his fastball with the speed, right? Where he he has that ability to reach back and hit 102, 101, 102. Like he has that ability, but he also has that ability where he can dial it back a little bit and sit around that 99 and just cruise at that 99. So you love to have that where a guy, he's got the ability where he can reach back for a little bit extra, but he also has that ability where if he's losing the strike zone, he can bring it back and he can hit it. And I love to see so Jacob Mizerowski, like I said, fantastic outing all the way around from him. Outside of that, just looking at the game as a whole, seeing the offense get rolling like it was nothing. You know, you look at last season, the offense looked great for a long stretch of games. They had a lot of promise there. And to see the offense just get it going once again, man oh man, exciting stuff there. I did have a uh a question that came in. Um, it was about Mizarowski, and we were just kind of talking about him and talking about will he continue this stretch? Right? He looked good in his first outing. Do you think he can continue there? What are some things he's gonna need to improve on? Is he he's sitting good right now? Question mark. I I think he is. Like I said, I think it's all gonna be in the the mental aspect of the game for Jacob Mizarowski. I think he's got all the talent in the world. I really do. I just think it's gonna be in the mental aspect about it staying into the game, not. Getting where guys can get in trouble is with their emotion, right? If they get high, sometimes that helps. It brings a little bit more juice. You get a little more fire there. Like being present in the moment and being able to control your emotions is a big thing. So when I look at Jacob Mizarowski, I think it's about the uh the mental side for him. And I think that's gonna be the biggest battle for him throughout the season because he does, he gets he gets very excited, he gets hyped up, but you see him out there when there's a bad call or he doesn't agree with the call, he gets really emotion like you know I say emotional because you want you want your pitcher, you want your players to be in the game, you want to be emotional, you want them to show their emotion, but you also don't want to see him do a little bit too much complaining, right? To worry about the last call a little bit too much. And that's where I think what I like so much, and that's where I guess answering this question is when I saw in this game the leadoff home run, it was like, okay, how does he bounce how does he bounce back from that? What do we see next? And I think that's what we saw. That's what gave me so much hope for him now moving forward, is when he bounced back with this three strikeouts in a row, got himself at the inning. That's what made it that much better. So Jacob Mizarowski, I thought had a fantastic outing. And I thought, just all in all, it gave me a huge promise for what we're gonna see moving forward in the lineup. Seeing Joey Ortiz come up with the bases loaded once again. I I when it happened, Christian was actually uh Christian, he comes on and talks badgers. We we text back and forth all the time, and he was he texts me and he said, No way does Joey Ortiz come up with the bases loaded again. And bam, comes up with the bases loaded, hits that flare single to right, and I was like, I will take it. I will take it. That might be the monkey off the back for Jake or for uh for Joey Ortiz going into this season because to be the guy who leads Major League Baseball and coming up with the bases loaded, and just the kind of struggle that he had last season as a whole, to see him come through, I felt great for him. And now you see him, he went two for three in this game, so the beard's gonna stick around. I know his wife doesn't like that too much from what I heard, but I the beard's gonna stick around for a while here. If he's got some hits in it, I'll take it. I'll take it, Joey. So two for three. If that's how it goes for him, the beard can stay. You look good, you look good there. So Joey Ortiz has a good day for the Brewers there. I really said it going into this season on Wednesday there. I was doing all my predictions and I was talking about guys I like. And I said, Hamilton, I thought was gonna be an underrated piece. He was gonna be like that dark, like Prat Murphy said, he's gonna be a breakout candidate. And I said it going into this season too. I said, I really like what he can bring. And watching him down there in spring, so many hard-hit balls, putting the ball in play. He's just a guy who gets on base, he's just a gritty guy and is one out in this game. He actually, it was his best hit of the day. He flew out to the warning, he flew it to the wall. I mean, it was a good hit. It just missed it on the barrel. I think he's gonna be fantastic. I I love to see where they're gonna kind of work him. He did play a little short in this game after Joey Ortiz was lifted from the game. They had Ren Hefo come in play third, and then David Hamilton moved over to uh moved over to shortstop there. I want I am really interested to see kind of how they work him. If he's going to be in there at third or if he's going to kind of work into short a little bit there. I guess it's gonna be who's hit and who's not. If Ren Hefo's not hit, you can see him more in third there. If you see Joey Ortiz kind of start to slump there a little bit, you can see him maybe in a shortstop for a stint. They want to keep Joey in because of his defense. So I'm not saying to bench him by any means, but you could see David Hamilton kind of work around there a little bit. Maybe you see Joey is more of a light in the game substitution at that point. I don't know what they're gonna do, but I love what Hamilton brings to this team right now. Seeing Sal Frelick go deep is just Freelick hitting bombs is just magical. He gets it like when he gets into one, the swing is just uh, I don't know. Yeah, what's the word for it? Chaotic, crazy, but just masterful all at the same time. Like he really gets into it. When he gets into it, he really gets into it and gets that back leg going. So I'd love to see Sal hit me some bombs out there. But this, I mean, lineup in total in this game, Jake Powers just continues to mash. We talked about it. Could you potentially see him in the outfield? I think we're gonna see more of him in the outfield. I think if not in the outfield, we'll see him into that uh into that DH role there a little bit, or Vaughn in the DH, then see Yelich get back into the outfield. I'm okay with Yelich playing the outfield. If they feel confident in the in his health and they feel as if he could go out there and help him out in the outfield, I'm good with that. I I am. I think staying in the game, like I was talking about there, and I've said it before, I I think with Yelich, keeping him in the game flow, keeping him in the game, I don't think it hurts him at all either. I don't. I think it keeps a guy checked in, right? Because when you're a DH, it's a different kind of animal. Everybody says, well, it's just going up there and hitting four times, it shouldn't be that strenuous. It's not, and I think that's partially the problem, is you're not really in the game. You're you're getting four at bats a game. You hit every two, three innings, whatever it is, unless you're having a crazy day offensively, you're not hitting consistently. So you're just kind of sitting in the dugout hanging out, then all of a sudden you're on the on-deck circle, then it's your at-bat, then you're going back to the bench. It just there it's so not in rhythm. And when you're in the game consistently, when you're playing the field, you're in a rhythm and you're in the game and you're constantly doing something. And I think that also adds an element. So I'd be okay with Yelich kind of flirting in there in the outfield a little bit. That'd be good with me. So, Brewers, all in all, offensive onslaught. Love to see it. Love to see it, especially like I said, after the way last season started, to see this kind of start now. Not skip a beat because there was a different kind of buzz, right? A different kind of atmosphere going into this year. You just came off an NLCS, lost there to the Dodgers. You were that close. You had a record year last year. Everything looked great. Now, going into this season here, you didn't lose a lot. I mean, you lost Freddie, you lost Durban, you lost some good guys, some key pieces, but you didn't lose a lot, and you're returning a lot of talented players. Bryce Tarang coming off that world baseball classic. I was like, I can't wait to see what he's gonna do for the Brewers this year. William Contreras coming off of the world baseball classic, and then he just started mashing home runs. And then seeing, you know, a guy like Vaughn in year two in Milwaukee, what he can do? Can he continue what he was doing last season there and help this team and push this team back into the postseason, back into the front of the division, and then back into the postseason there? Jake Bowers, the hot spring that he had. What can he supply? Garrett Mitchell, healthy, what can he do for the Brewers? There was just so much hype around this team and what they are capable of. And then all the outside noise. Well, nobody talking about them. They all, you know, once again, down on the Brewers. They're not gonna be able to do anything. They didn't go out and make moves. They traded away Freddie, they traded away Durbin, they're gonna lose games because of that. And then, oh well, I don't know about this pitching staff, Brandon Woodruff, and then you have a bunch of young guys. Is Mizorowski good enough to lead this staff? Is Sprout and Harrison gonna be good enough to back them up there? Yeah, yeah, I'm confident. I'm confident. I I know they just played the White Sox, and I know you can't. People are gonna say, well, it's just the White Sox. Don't take that much stock in them. And I heard a lot of people say that, you know, Pat Murphy's like, that's a good team over there. And he was talking about them after, and they're like, ah, well, he has to say that. I don't think the White Sox are terrible. I don't think they're a terrible team. Do I think they're gonna be a great team? No. Do I think they're gonna be a postseason team? No. But do I think they're a terrible team? I don't think so. I think this is a solid team, a solid roster. Are they great? No. I don't think by any means they're great. Are they gonna win over 80 games? No, I don't think so. But it's not like this is the worst team that's ever been constructed. There's some solid guys on that roster. I will say, like, there's some solid guys on that team. They have a lot of problems, I think. So I don't hate them. I don't hate this team. So let's see. I mean, just coming off of that game. Now you have the White Sox coming up later today here. Should be another good one. Chad Patrick. So there were people out there who didn't like my Chad Patrick take. I said that I really liked Chad Patrick heading this year. They're like, eh, I'm not as high on Patrick as you are. I don't know if I'm exactly I don't know, I don't know if I'm super high on him or going to say like he's going to be the best pitcher in this rotation kind of guy. I think Chad Patrick's just a dog. I think he's gonna go out there, he's gonna grind out games for you. He's gonna do, I think he's like a three through five in your rotation. I just think he's set up in a number two because you have two rookies in the rotator, two young guys in the rotation. You have Brandon Woodruff who you want to give as much time before he got his first start. So Chad Patrick just ended up as the number two. That's just kind of what happened. It's not saying that he's the second best pitcher on this team. It's not saying that I think he is the second best pitcher. It's saying that this is where he got slotted in because of everything else that was going on. Could you have put Sprout in there? Sure. Could you have put Harrison in there? Sure. But this is where it ended up. And like I said, I think he's going to be a solid piece in this rotation for him just because I think he pitches, he pitches with that kind of workhorse mentality. And I think he's going to do some good things for the Brewers this year. Looking at the triple A roster going into this year, though, looking at what they have down there, just the pitchers that you could talk about, Coleman Crow in there, Shane Duran, Robert Gasser, Logan Henderson's on that roster. A lot of good pitchers down in triple A, too. So they have a lot of weapons across the board in that pitching staff. But Chad Patrick, I think, is solid. I can't wait to watch him here in his first outing here today for the Brewers. But we have a lot to get into yet today here on the show. Next up on the show, Ummer's gonna stop by. We're gonna talk some Packers. We'll be right back here on Wisconsin Sports on the Go with Trade. Back into Wisconsin Sports on the Go with Trage. I'm your host, Trage, as we're coming back in here on this Saturday. We have a guy who's been gone for way too long, but he's back here. Don't worry, he's back. Ummer is back here today. Ummer, how are we doing on this Saturday? You've had like a week off. You're lucky I don't pay you because otherwise I'd fire you. You've had a week off here. How are you doing on the Saturday?

SPEAKER_01 32:04

I'm good, man. I'm good, man. I can't complain, man. I'm just happy it's the weekend. Uh, it's pretty quiet offseason for us in the Packer World, just you know, taking in the quietness before the draft comes around the corner. And I'm good, man. How you been?

SPEAKER_02 32:16

I've been good. Well, you haven't been here. So, I mean, we've been missing you here. We've been missing you. Like I said, if I was paying you, I'd be upset right now. But I mean, we'd all have to get paid first before I could pay my employees here. But Hummer doesn't know about his contract yet. But his contract, we gotta work to the negotiation on that. Yeah, we gotta work to the negotiation on the contract yet. But, anyways, anyways, we have we have a lot to dive into today here with the Packers here. We're just gonna, I mean, we're gonna hit random stuff, just random stuff. We're gonna call it the random packer hour, your random packer 14-minute segment. That's what we're gonna call it here, not hour, because we don't have that long. But Umer, I saw an article out there, and I kind of want to talk. Well, it just gave me an idea, so I just want to talk about it. Are the Packers having a bad offseason? So you see what they've kind of done. They got Benjamin St. Juice there on a two-year deal. They grabbed up Hargrave there on a two-year deal. Also, Zaire Franklin and a trade there with the Colts. Got some other guys, some other pieces to bring along with that. But no, oh, also don't want to forget Sky Moore, right? That's the piece I was thinking of. Sky Moore coming in there, the kick returner slash wide receiver, but mainly a special teams guy coming in there too. So they grabbed some pieces, they brought some pieces back along with that. When you look at Brenton Cox Jr., Darren Kennard's gonna be coming back there, Christian Welch, Jonathan Ford, Josh Wiley, some bigger moves, not really right. There's nothing really big that they've done yet. Hargrave, I thought was a good signing. I thought Juice was a good signing, so but nothing major, right? And I think that's where a lot of Packer fans are saying maybe a bad offseason, nothing major. I think they're all after Micah Parsons last year. Now everybody just wants to see something major again. I don't think that's what you're gonna get here. You'll get the departures, Rasheed Walker out the door, Romeo Dobbs, Malik Willis, Rashawn Gary, Kway Walker, Elton Jenkins, Nate Hobbs, Kingsley and Abare, Kobe. Okay, when you list the guys who have left, you kind of get nervous, right? Because you're seeing a lot of bigger name guys, I guess you could say, on that list, guys who you're not household names at this point here, but like Romeo Dobbs, more of a household name, right? Elton Jenkins, part of that offensive line. You see Rasheed Walker on that list there. I think that's what makes people nervous, right? Is you're seeing a lot of your, I don't know if you'd say major pieces, but pieces that you've thought about for a couple years now at least out the door, and you're not seeing a lot of that return at this point. So I guess that's where I think a lot of people may be saying that it's a bad offseason. I'm not sure, Amir. What are you thinking? It has it been a bad off season for the Green Bay Packers.

SPEAKER_01 34:52

I don't think so. I think that they made all the right moves where they need to make the moves. I think there's a lot of addition by subtraction. I felt like we had people in positions that were maybe playing out of position, right? As much as I love Elton Jenkins, I think his truest position was left card. I think Quay Walker was never, I don't know if he was properly utilized, or I think maybe he was just not right for the mic position, right? Um, and then of course we had a lot of other guys go out the door where you're like, all right, well, you know, they got paid, like Romeo Dobbs got paid, right? Malik Woolis got starting opportunity in Miami, even though Miami's like a complete fire sale. And we brought in guys who you have Sky Moore, who's gonna hopefully take care of our special teams, as well as be a fifth uh fifth or sixth receiver, and also possibly could play the Tyler Irvin role as an orbit guy because that's where he he he's done that in the past four in Shanahan's offenses. You know, you have uh Benjamin St. Just who is probably considered to be one of the top cover corners in the league in a zone coverage, as well as he's very available, he's missed, I think, zero games in the last four years, and he's also built like the Way Packers with him, 200 pounds, over six foot two, and I think he provides depth in a position where we saw a lot of turmoil, right? You know, Keyshawn Nixon got exposed a lot, Carrington Valentine got exposed a lot. Uh, the only guy in the secondaries that were worth their salt was Evan Williams and Javon Bullard and Xier McKinney. And again, like, you know, we re-signed Sean Ryan, even though he's not like a person we brought in from the outside, he was he is a player that we kept, and he is the person I think is there as a stop cap. And I think they're still gonna try to supplement that room by drafting someone. I'm hoping that they possibly look at uh the Iowa center, or they look at the center, uh Jake Slaughter out of Florida, or even possibly um there's another guy out of Duke as well, too. You know, and just again, like they put guys in position, and then of course you can't forget Javon Hargrave, who, you know, he's 33 years old, brings familiarity with the scheme with John Jonathan Cannon. He had his best years with Jonathan Cannon, and on top of that, too, he was a position of need, right? We need a defensive tackle. We never really backfilled the TJ Slayton and Kenny Clark departures, right? And so bringing in a guy like him, and then of course I'm pretty sure they're gonna supplement that room with another pick as well, too. Um to me, I felt like they made all the right moves where they needed to make them. Uh they do have a lot of money over the caps, there might be another move on the horizon. Or, you know, this might give them an opportunity to extend some guys, Christian Watson stuff for extension. We just saw JSN get$42 million a year as a receiver, which is pretty wild, right? But again, I mean the guy was literally like he could have been the Super Bowl MVP. Was he a Super Bowl MVP? He was Super Bowl MVP, I think. Wasn't it? No, Kenth Walker was sorry, Kent Walker Super Bowl MVP. But he literally had one of the best receivers, one of the best seasons as a receiver, and he did probably set the market for Watson. You already know that Jaden Reed's gonna be coming up for a contract extension, Tucker Krauss can be coming up for another extension, and then we might need to look and probably even consider restructuring Josh Jacobs' contract. I just feel like we have opportunities to probably you know extend some guys of our own that we want to keep their core players, and as well as have ability to maneuver up and down the draft when it comes to our compensatory picks we're gonna get next year. And I can't I can't even talk, I forgot all about that. Rasheed Walker, he was out the door too, and he kind of screwed up our compensatory pick because he only went for a one-year,$10 million deal. But again, addition by subtraction gives Jordan Morgan an opportunity to play a left tackle. So I thought the offseason's been fine. We just weren't we're still paying. Like if you think about it, the Packers are still like gained out of the cap hits of like Aaron Rodgers and other players, right? So for me, I'm okay with the way that Goody's gone about this.

How Close Green Bay Is

SPEAKER_02 38:35

I think, like I said before, I think a lot of people saw it in the Micah Parsons mega you know trade last season there. And now it's okay, what can we do next? What can we do next, right? Where's we think we're close, what can we do next? And I think coming down to earth, it's about making the right moves and the right depth piece moves because I think you're missing a lot of that and bringing in veteran guys into a relatively young team who they're gonna be one of the youngest teams once again, which is crazy to think how many years in a row they've been the youngest team. They just continue this rollover, and I think now they finally said to themselves, okay, what can we do to try and get us over the top? And I think it's bringing in those veterans, like you just named off there, with Hargrave, with Franklin. And I mean, there's still guys out there, and there's still guys that I'd be looking at when you look at guys like Colias Campbell, who's I believe he's still out there and can be talked to. You talked about a guy named Cameron Jordan, the edge out of the Saints. Yes. Could you bring him in? Could you see a guy like Joey Bosa? None of those guys that you're gonna list off are gonna be Micah Parsons. They're not gonna bring that same kind of, you know, they're gonna bring toughness, they're gonna bring an edge to him. Are they gonna bring that same kind of production? Maybe not. But you bring them into the Packers here, they have some young guys already talking. I mean, look at guys like Baron Sorrell. Everybody forgets the Packers have some pretty good young rushers right now. In you look at a guy like Sorrell or you look at Van Esse, who we thought took a little bit of a step last year but got hurt, so that didn't help him out at all. Also, Micah Parsons goes down and other guys go down. That Devontae Wyatt on the inside did not help out Lucas Van Esse at all because then he's back to square zero with no help on the outside, so didn't help him out at all. You have Brenton Cox coming back, so you're gonna have some good pieces for depth, and I think adding to that is a big thing for this team. So I agree. I think they've done the right things to this point. Do I think there's more that they can do? Yeah, I think there's more they can do. I think the cornerback room, that's where I kind of want to hit next. The Packers, cornerback room, I still think they desperately need help out there. I think they need depth out there. I think bringing in Benjamin St. Juice, I think it's a great start. But do you trust that Keyshawn Nixon and Carrington Valentine can be those guys for you on the perimeter? I thought Valentine had a ton of upside, but if any team starts running the ball in his direction, he's not gonna help out at all. Keyshawn Nixon, I think I don't know sometimes with Keyshawn. I don't think he's as bad as what people think. I don't think he's as bad as what people think, but I also don't think he's as good as what he thinks. I think he's somewhere in the middle, and I think they need to accept he's somewhere in the middle, and I think they need to find a way, whether it's through the draft, bringing guys in, and you can find some good corners in the draft. Finding guys in the draft or bringing in another vet out there. I've seen pictures of Diggs and uh Micah Parsons working out together. Maybe you bring a guy back like Diggs. I know we only saw him for one snap last season. I still don't understand why they even got him for one snap, but you only saw him for one snap. You can work a deal out for him that's friendly. I don't think Diggs is gonna be looking for a boatload because I don't think he's got the production to ask for a boatload of money. I think you're gonna be able to get him on the better side, maybe on a prove-it deal coming to Green Bay. Maybe you see him bring back a guy like that, but I'm still looking, I'm looking all over the place on the defense for depth help. I really am. I'm looking at the defensive line. I'm saying I want some guys behind Hargrave and Devontae Wyatt there. You have Brooks, you have guys that are gonna be in there. I'm not saying you don't have guys already. You have uh what I'm missing Stack Alice, I'm missing Brinson, right? Those two guys. But if you bring in a guy like Calais Campbell, that only shures up the center of that defense. And that's exactly where you need to shure it up. Is up you need to build from the inside out, from the line backwards, right? And that's where looking at the offense, looking at defense, like you were talking there, going in the draft for some offensive linemen. I don't know if I trust Duke anymore after the Jacob Monk experience, because it's not working out with Jacob Monk. So I don't know if I want another center out of Duke. But all those guys out of Iowa, if there's a place to draft uh offensive linemen, you go to Iowa. Like that's the place to look for offensive linemen because they throw out a lot of really good ones. So that's where I would look. But a lot of good players to talk about there across the board. But I like like we said, I don't think it's been a bad offseason. I just think the Packers are, I think they're TD. Like, Ummer, how close do you think the Packers are? Like, honestly, like if you were to like sit and when I asked that question, like a realistic, I think the Packers are this close to like if I gave you a one through ten, how close do you think the Packers are to a Super Bowl?

SPEAKER_01 43:02

I think that they are I think they're probably one more, maybe two more offensive linemen, one defense alignment, and one corner away.

SPEAKER_02 43:15

Is that like a seven? Yeah, is that like a seven?

SPEAKER_01 43:19

Oh, sorry. I would say I would say about an eight. I would say they're an eight, eight out of ten. Yeah, eight out of ten.

SPEAKER_02 43:24

I'm like counting out the guys, you're like, yeah, one this guy's to a four, like they had a four.

SPEAKER_01 43:30

No, but you think about it, like you know, Keyshawn and Carrington Valentine for the most part, like, you know, they didn't get exposed with our pass rushers doing so with Micah. And Micah's not gonna play for the first three to four games, right? Right, yep. And we need to get more talent in there. I'm hoping that we I'm hoping to God somehow Chris Johnson out of San Diego State University falls to a 52 pick, or we trade up together because that guy's a beast. Um but personally, yeah, I think that you know the Packers won way too far away from it last year. You know what I'm saying? Um we just We just sometimes get out of our own way, to be completely honest with you. And we have to play our best football when it comes to December or January. And we have to figure out a way to obviously you can't account for injuries, but you just have to figure out a way just to be playing your best football and your healthiest football coming into December, January.

SPEAKER_02 44:18

Yeah. No, I agree with you 100%. I I'd be in that six-seven range, right? Yeah. I think they got the quarterback to do it. I think they have the receiving core to do it. I did it to myself. I did it to myself. Anyways, enough of that hijinks over there. I think I think I think they're I'm gonna say six. I'm gonna say six. I'm not even gonna add another number in there. I think six. I think they got the quarterback to do it. I think they have the wide receiver core to do it. I think they have the right stars around. Now it's about, like I said before, adding in the right depth pieces to fill in the gaps because you only make it as far as your weakest link, right? Your team's only as good as your weakest link. And I think now the Packers have to address what's the weakest link? How do we make it better? If the guy gets hurt, what do we do? What do we supplement in there? How do we figure it out? And I think that's kind of last year where when Devontae Wyatt went down, the center of that defense got all screwed up. They didn't have any answer at defensive tackle, stop the run, anything. So I think that's where it kind of went downhill. And then you look at the pass rush room, you said, okay, once Michael Parsons went down, I know it's a huge blow to any team, but then what happened? They couldn't generate pass rush, and then the secondary got exposed. So what do we have to do? You hope Baron Sorrell is gonna take that next step. You hope a guy like Lucas Van Ness can finally take that step for you. But I think it's that it's adding those depth pieces in around, and I think that makes that number rise. And it's crazy to think you're you got the stars, you just need the depth pieces. And I think that's a crazy thing to think is that's how close you are, and I think that's how close they are to being a Super Bowl team is getting the right depth guys around them there who are gonna bring that fire, bring that just every down mentality where they just keep bringing it, and that's gonna start with Matt LaFleur instilling that in that team, but it's gonna start with them arresting those guys too. So, Ummer, I gotta run here. Let the people know where to find you out there across social media.

SPEAKER_01 46:00

Yeah, you can find me at uh AMAR3455, uh, everywhere on Instagram, uh, same thing, all that good stuff, all the social media uh platforms and tragers always been. Thank you for having me, man. Appreciate you.

Leftovers Brewers Breakouts And Catching Plan

SPEAKER_02 46:11

Of course, of course. We're glad to have you back after your week off of Hummer was everywhere but here. Now he's back. So we're good. We're good. We're good. He'll be back Wednesday, so don't you guys worry. So when we come back, we're gonna hit our leftovers. Who doesn't love leftovers in the fridge? We're gonna hit our leftovers of the day here when we come back. We'll be right back here on Wisconsin Sports on the Go with Trade. Welcome back into Wisconsin Sports on the Go with Trage. I'm your host, Trage, as we're coming back in here on this Saturday. We're getting the last segment of the show here. We're gonna call it leftovers, right? Everybody loves leftovers. We're gonna hit our leftovers here for the day. So we were talking a lot today. We got into the brewers, we talked some badgers, we got into the Packers with Ummer. Now I want to wrap it up here. We're gonna hit our leftovers here. And our leftovers today are the brewer questions, right? I didn't forget about you guys out there. I know I missed some questions the other day. I went back, I circled them up. So we're gonna hit those questions real quick here to wrap up the show for the day. So, first one What players are due for breakout seasons with the Milwaukee Brewers? So I'm gonna throw a couple of random names out there. Not really random if you're a brewer fan, but guys who on the outside you would not expect to have breakout years. I think Andrew Vaughn is gonna have a breakout year for the Brewers. This guy and Andrew Vaughn last season coming to Milwaukee. Nobody would have said, yeah, Andrew Vaughn's gonna turn it on when he gets to the Brewers. But guess what? He did. Looking at what he did last season there, hit 308, had 14 doubles, had those nine home runs, 46 RBIs. He was an RBI machine when he came over to the Brewers there. I expect to see Andrew Vaughn continue that. I don't think he's gonna hit 308, but I could see him realistically being up near the top there. I could see him 270, I could see him in 280 range, I could see him being a catalyst in this lineup for the Brewers. So a breakout guy for me, Andrew Vaughn. I don't know what happened when he came to Milwaukee, but he found a different life. He found happiness. I think that's what it was. He got out of Chicago. When you leave Chicago, you just feel better about yourself. I think that goes with all sports, whether you play for the Bears or anybody else. You just feel better when you leave Chicago and go someplace else. That's what I think happened to Andrew Vaughn. He was under this microscope down there where everybody just hated the guy. Now he comes to the Brewers. He's got a statue where Bill, I'm gonna build him a statue, King Vaughn. We're gonna build that statue. I think King Vaughn is up for a major breakout season this year. So that's one of my guys. Number two on my list. I don't know if this is much of a surprise to everybody. I think he already technically had a breakout season, but I'm gonna go Bryce Turang. I have to put him in there. Just because I put him in my bold predictions as being in the NVP conversation, I don't think he's gonna win it because, oh, Shoei Otani, ooh, he's still there. I uh you guys know I dislike that guy. Everybody else loves him, so I have to dislike him. That's how I just roll with my life. All right. So you got Shoey Otani, so I don't think he's gonna win it, but Bryce Turang's gonna be up there, so he is definitely gonna have a major breakout season. Jake Bowers. I know this one's gonna be like, well, how can Jake Bowers have a breakout season if Andrew Vaughn's having a breakout season? They both play first base. How's that gonna work? Jake Bowers can play the outfield too, and he can also, you can work some of these guys at a DH role if you have Jelich go play the outfield. So I think Jake Bowers is due for a breakout season too. I he found something. He found something last year with the Brewers, and I think it's rolling over. We saw it in spring, we saw the exit velocity, we saw all the great things that he can do at the plate, and I think it's gonna roll over into this season here, and we're gonna see Jake Bowers have himself a breakout year. If I had to pick a pitcher, if I had to pick a pitcher for a breakout year, I have Sprout leading the team in strikeouts, so that would be a breakout guy. I think that would be a no-brainer breakout guy. If I had to pick a pitcher who's going to have a breakout season for the Brewers, I think I gotta go almost bullpen. I think I'm gonna go bullpen. I think if I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go, I'm gonna go Angel Zerpa. I'm gonna go Angel Zerpa. Nobody's gonna talk about it. Nobody's gonna say Angel Zerpa is gonna be the big name guy in this bullpen, but I don't know why I just got this feeling that Angel Zerpa is just gonna be fantastic. So just let's just throw Angel Zerpa out there. There you go. There's my there's my pitcher who's gonna have a breakout year for the Brewers. Angel Zerpa. I think there's lots of guys in the rotation that are gonna be great. Like I said, I think Sprout's gonna lead the team in strikeouts, and that doesn't mean I don't think Jacob Mizerowski is gonna be right behind him there in strikeouts and looking fantastic. I think they're gonna have a really good starting rotation. I think they're gonna have a really good bullpen with Abner Aribe and McGill at the back end and having guys like Jared Canning and Aaron Ashby kind of sprinkled in there. But if I had to pick a random guy for a breakout year, I think Angel Zerpa's due for a breakout year for the Brewers. So I'm gonna go with him there. Uh, let's see here. What was the what was the point in bringing back Gary Sanchez to the Brewers? Why not bring up a rookie? I think I've answered this before, but it's a fair question. Why do you bring back uh Gary Sanchez when you can just bring up Quero, when you can have one of your top prospects come up to the big league level? I think it's really simple. I think you want to get Quero as many reps as he can possibly get. And when he's at the big league level, he's sitting behind William Contreras and he's not getting consistent at bats. He's not getting out there every single day and getting that kind of you know consistency. I think that's the big thing with that. So I think keeping him down at the triple A level, I think that's good for him. Catching every day, being able to hit every day, being in the lineup, I think that's a big thing for guys. And I, you know, with their mental standpoint of the game too, because when you're riding the pine, when you're just sitting there and you get out on a Sunday or a Wednesday afternoon, you're not getting into a constant rhythm. And I think with a guy like Quero, you want him to get into rhythm. You want to see everything he's got before he gets up to the big league level. And I think we're seeing good things at the minor league level. You just want to have him get consistent play, and he's not gonna get that right now with William Petreras at the big league level. So I think it's a good thing to bring back a veteran. I know not a lot of people like Gary Sanchez, but it's a good veteran to bring back in. He's got some pop, he can do good things for you off the bench. You're not gonna see him that often. So it's not like it's the end of the world for you. And if you run into a pinch, now you see Cuero come out. But as of right now, Contreras, you're you're setting up with Contreras that you're gonna see him a majority of the time, anyways. So at this point here, I mean, last season, I was just gonna check how many games he had last season there behind the deck. He had 150 games he played in last season, and that was with a broken finger. So I'd imagine if he's healthy and he's going well, I'd imagine you're gonna see him in that same boat there. So you're looking at Gary Sanchez for like at max 20 games that you're gonna see Gary Sanchez. I think you're sitting in a good spot at that point. Reese McGuire was also in there. I don't think Reese McGuire was gonna be even a worse option at the plate than Gary Sanchez. He's gonna be okay defensively. He was a word, I don't think he was a better option offensively for the Brewers. So I don't think it's a bad move all the way around bringing in Gary Sanchez. It's an odd move because you think to yourself, why do you need to bring him back? You have good guys in this system at the catching spot. End of the day, like I said, I think it's about getting Quero consistent at bats and at the same time being able to keep Contreras in the lineup and having a guy just sit on the bench that you don't really have to worry about the future. You don't have to worry about I I like Gary Sanchez is part of the Brewers. You want to like Gary Sanchez. I'm gonna like Gary Sanchez because he's on the Brewers, but at the same time, you're not really worried about the future of Gary Sanchez and getting him that consistent play. He's good on the bench. That's where he's gonna stay. So that's there we go. There we go. There's my last brewer questions that I didn't get to the other day. If you guys want to send over your brewer questions, badger questions, packer questions, make sure you hit up the text in line, 715-990-4914. 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