In Moderation
Providing health, nutrition and fitness advice in moderate amounts to help you live your best life.
Rob: Co-host of the podcast "In Moderation" and fitness enthusiast. Rob has a background in exercise science and is passionate about helping others achieve their health and fitness goals. He brings a wealth of knowledge and expertise to the show, providing valuable insights on topics such as calories, metabolism, and weight loss.
Liam: Co-host of the podcast "In Moderation" and new father. Liam has a background in nutrition and is dedicated to promoting a balanced and sustainable approach to health and wellness. With his witty and sarcastic style, Liam adds a unique flavor to the show, making it both informative and entertaining.
In Moderation
Interlude with Mike Pridgen - What You Really Need (And Don't Need) To Lose Weight
Ever feel like your wallet is getting skinnier faster than you are on your weight loss journey? Mike and Rob dive deep into the money pit of fitness marketing, exposing what you actually need to spend on—and what's just clever marketing.
The duo tackles the premium pricing of products like Fairlife milk (spoiler: you're paying triple for just 4g more protein) and bust the myth that organic labels guarantee better nutrition. Between frozen vegetables that outlast their fresh counterparts and generic brands manufactured in the same facilities as the expensive options, there are countless ways to trim your grocery bill without compromising your results.
Beyond just shopping tips, they explore how recent FDA funding cuts have eliminated monitoring for six major foodborne illness strains, creating serious public health concerns. They also share invaluable insights on developing sustainable eating habits through finding enjoyable recipes rather than forcing yourself to eat "health foods" you hate.
Most powerfully, they emphasize that mindset trumps materials in weight loss. No expensive product can replace the foundation of good habits, community support, and finding joy in your fitness journey. As Mike notes, "The mindset is where I started. If you can't seem to keep your calories in check... don't blame yourself. This isn't a moral failing. You just don't know where you're going right now."
Ready to save money while still reaching your goals? This episode delivers practical wisdom without the hefty price tag. Join the conversation, and don't forget to catch Mike and Rob streaming No Man's Sky—say "banana bread" in the chat for a chance to win In Moderation merch!
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Welcome to In Moderation Interlude, because Liam is a jerk that decided not to show up.
Speaker 2:What if we just pretend that I am Liam and we treat me as like a mid-season recast and don't ever Okay, okay, yeah okay, redo, redo, you know, scrub that.
Speaker 1:What's up, liam? Hi, Rob, yes, how's it?
Speaker 2:going Liam? Hi Rob, how's it going? It's pretty great. I was tagged in a bunch of videos today and I was told hey, how do you feel about cottage cheese? And I said you know what Cottage cheese is okay, that sounds like Liam.
Speaker 1:I mean, that sounds like you.
Speaker 2:That sounds like me.
Speaker 1:That's exactly who I am.
Speaker 2:We already like you Yep, and we already know we're not approved. There we go. You heard it from Liam himself. No one's going to be able to tell the difference.
Speaker 1:But no really, liam is currently on the place in the US. I don't know, I don't know states, they all look the same, looking for a new place to live, and unfortunately Oakley is not letting him do anything.
Speaker 2:So I went over and I was like Mike Mike.
Speaker 1:Mike, mike, mike.
Speaker 2:Mike, mike. I just got a bunch of texts in a row. I said, well, actually what you had said verbatim let's see, let's pull this up was Mike emergency, mike emergency, mike emergency. I said Rob, rob, emergency. And then you just said podcast in all caps and I said give me 15 minutes, I'll be here.
Speaker 1:And actually I'm pretty sure that was faster than 15 minutes.
Speaker 2:It might have been. Might have been 12 or even 13.
Speaker 1:Damn Speeding up, gonzalez, over here.
Speaker 2:They say under promise, over deliver. That's what I like to do, so this is an interesting episode. Liam is not present, it is just you and me what do you guys normally do? When the liam is here in spirit, he is within me, uh, for legal purposes, spiritually no longer the father and the son and the plant slant amen so uh, what what?
Speaker 2:I think last time I aired my grievances about ai being used for coaching, which if if you're gonna do it at home, like you know, just on your own, that's fine. It's more so that I've got the grievances of paying for it, like you just. You just use it especially if you're paying somebody that's supposed to be doing it themselves so I perhaps, in the spirit of that, we could talk a little bit about maybe what people don't need to be spending so much money on on a weight loss journey or a fitness journey.
Speaker 1:There's an idea, Bounce that around for a couple minutes. Yeah, because I was just thinking.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to do a couple more recipe videos, and every creamy video Ninja Creamy that I I watch is they always mention fair life milk right, which is great product. Can you get that up there where you're at?
Speaker 1:we can get fair life, but we can also get the superior dairy land. Really okay, tell me about dairy dairy land.
Speaker 2:I'd love to hear about that well, I don't.
Speaker 1:Actually I don't have a comparison to if the Fair Life is this way in the US, but if I were to serve you the Fair Life and the Dairyland, you would think that the Fair Life was a little bit watered down, like the Dairyland has a lot more of that milk taste to it Interesting.
Speaker 2:Okay, very cool, now I want to see if we have it here. Okay, very cool, but now I want to see if we have it here. But yeah, fairlife, it's got a little bit more protein in it, but it's ultimately just the same thing as milk, but it costs twice or three times as much.
Speaker 1:If you see somebody talking about.
Speaker 2:Compared to milk, it's like $5 for a thing of Fairlife and it's not even a full gallon.
Speaker 1:It's like a half gallon. Yeah, that's. The other thing about Fairlife is at least here. Fairlife is $7 for one and a half liters and Dairyland I can get for $6 for two liters.
Speaker 2:Okay, so we've got a slightly considerably, I'd say a better deal there.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Realistically, it's only like per serving, four grams more of protein for the same amount of calories and it's like I don't know, just for that little bit of extra oomph. It's not going to make that big of a difference, Not something that you couldn't just make up with more protein powder, I suppose.
Speaker 1:It's true.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So if you're concerned about well, I don't want to get that Fairlife milk you don't have to, you can, if you want, to it's nice, I love it. I have a glass of it every morning, but it's not something you have to get. Same with the organic labels. I'm sure you've talked about that here plenty of times. You're paying for the name Yep year plenty of times yeah, you're paying for the name.
Speaker 1:Yep, at that point it's. There's no pesticides. There's still whatever. They're still processed in plants, they're still used in other things. It's.
Speaker 2:It's just a fancy name on it, it's the pesticide they use, like slightly different pesticides, but they're all the same, and every study that we run shows that none of it makes it to the final product anyway, not in an amount that matters. By the that we run shows that none of it makes it to the final product anyway, not in an amount that matters by the way we're being paid by a big pesticide to push this, or else we'd just be dead, we wouldn't be, we wouldn't be here.
Speaker 2:But I guess in a couple of years we won't have that information. Because the FDA is, funding has been slashed as of the last couple of days.
Speaker 1:Did they really? I don't keep it up with my news. That's surprising, but mentioned it.
Speaker 2:He came on and he said that the FDA they are no longer able to. They don't have enough funding to monitor six of the eight different strains of breakouts that they typically account for, one of which is listeria. So if there's a listeria outbreak in any of our food in the us, if your state does not handle it on the state level, they don't have the funding for it. It's just not going to be brought up and we're going to find that out the hard way, which is getting fucking listeria I always hate when like again, I'm not american, fda is not my governing body.
Speaker 1:But I always hate when people are like the FDA doesn't do anything. It's like because you don't fund the damn thing. It needs funding to do things.
Speaker 2:It's like we need the money to do this kind of thing. Let's see, we've got Campylobacter Cyclospora, listeria, shigella Vibriorio, which I've never even heard of that one, but thank you, fda, for uh having us not hear about it. I'm sure we're going to become familiar and uh yersinia, which I've also not heard of. I've heard of the other, uh four of them, but those ones are no longer being monitored. That's lovely, are we great again? Hasn happened?
Speaker 1:You'll be great again when you weaken your population enough for Canada to take over.
Speaker 2:I'm ready, I'm completely prepared.
Speaker 1:I think a lot of your population is ready. Universal health care.
Speaker 2:That's another thing that if you move to Canada you don't have to spend as much money on health care. You can get your health care. It's taken care of in your taxes.
Speaker 1:So basically, if you want to save money, move to Canada. We've got cheaper milk and we've got better healthcare. You got an extra room.
Speaker 2:Yes, I do A snake on in there. Perfect, I'll be there. All right, if I can get a passport. We'll see if I can manage to get a passport here.
Speaker 1:I'm pretty sure you're on the list. You know the ban list which list the list that doesn't exist. You've been dirty on the internet list I don't know about the list. I've never seen it it was on my desk for a little while, but it's gone now.
Speaker 2:I don't know what happened to it. Must have been the wind, I don't know. So what else is it that I'm always hearing about in terms of things that you got to spend extra money on? On weight loss, you know?
Speaker 1:what you don't have to spend extra money on.
Speaker 2:What's that? Name brand stuff, yes, oh my goodness, name brand stuff, yeah.
Speaker 1:You don't need it. Half the generic stuff is made in the same factory. There's not like 20 different factories all making different versions of mini weeds, there's like two factories and everybody gets them from that.
Speaker 2:In the sixties I think it was the 60s Elvis and his team came up with a very brilliant strategy and that was to capitalize on the Elvis hate. So they were selling the Elvis merchandise, but they were also selling the Elvis, the I hate Elvis merchandise. So they were making money from both ends of it. If you bought a shirt that said I hate Elvis and he sucks, and I don't like a very wordy shirt, elvis would get that money. So that's what you're doing with your knockoff Fruit Loops. Go ahead and get them Totally fine. Don't you have a brand up in Canada called no Name in?
Speaker 1:the yellow packaging.
Speaker 2:Yep, literally no Name. So that is its own company, though right, literally, literally, that's like its own brand, isn't it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, we also have President's Choice, which for the longest time I thought was American because it's President's Choice, but no, it's Canadian. You don't have a president, I know.
Speaker 2:You have a prime minister, so I have no idea who's president is Choice of who's choosing this.
Speaker 1:What president? I don't know.
Speaker 2:Well, this person. If they are listening to this podcast right now, I would love to hear from them. So, whoever you are, we probably have a lot of presidents listening to this show. Call in. Do we have a?
Speaker 1:call in. I will say whoever this president is has a good choice in lemonade.
Speaker 2:The diet lemonade is really good. Where does this president fall short? What are they? What is the president's choice? That's like I probably have chosen different um, you know, I'm not sure.
Speaker 1:I don't think I've had enough of the president's choice stuff that's at the supermarket I have to go out of the way for, and I usually just go there to get my lemonade what is it?
Speaker 2:what if this is just a president that we elect to make the choices for this company, like it's not a president of another organization or government. It's just like the president of that company, the president of choices, the president of choices, of choice incorporated? I want to be the president of choices it's the only way to get elected. Rob lapham for president of choices I'd I'd vote for you if it wasn't for the fact that this position is handed down by I have that.
Speaker 1:I have that autistic food aversion I like and then like I like the taste of vegetables. I don't think people want what I like. Why is?
Speaker 2:it that all the president's choice items right now are dino nuggies and mac and cheese? We've got an entire refrigerator full of hundreds of bags of dino nuggies sounds about right, so hey I don't think anybody's going to complain about the dino nuggies. I'm not going to complain no, you, you don't have the real good brand of chicken, right, it's the brand is called real good. Do you have that there?
Speaker 1:uh, don't have the real good brand of chicken right, the brand is called Real Good. Do you have that there? Don't think so.
Speaker 2:No, it is. I don't know how they're doing this differently, but they make chicken nuggets and chicken strips with a considerable amount of protein that is higher percentage-wise in the calories. So it's like 23 grams of protein to like 140 pounds calories per serving, or something. It's quite spectacular. Wow, again, not something you have to buy. It is a little bit more expensive than your average nuggies. So if you can't, afford it.
Speaker 1:That's okay. It's a little bit more money, a little bit more protein, but you don't have to. You can get it through other means.
Speaker 2:You just buy like a pack of chicken breast. That's what I do. I buy it in batches every couple of weeks, cook it and then I've got some ingredients fresh or not necessarily fresh, but ready to go to chop up when I need it.
Speaker 1:I end up getting my chicken whole and butchering it myself, but I don't think everybody wants to do that.
Speaker 2:No, no, I would let you handle that. You are the Viking with the tools to handle that.
Speaker 1:I would just send it up to you Once again something you send it up to you Once again, something you don't have to do.
Speaker 2:So yeah, definitely do not have to do that. By the way, in case anyone's joining and does not know who I am, I forgot to introduce myself in the beginning. I lost 110 pounds. I am Liam. I forgot.
Speaker 1:I am Liam, you're Liam and you've lost 110 pounds.
Speaker 2:I'm Liam and I've lost 110 pounds. I now weigh zero pounds. That man is exceptionally lean, very good looking, very handsome. He's got this picture. I think it's his Facebook picture. I don't know how he got that ripped, but I'm angry about it.
Speaker 1:I mean you're in the middle of trying to get ripped yourself. Right, I'm always in the middle of trying to get ripped. That's never not the case, but I think you have some sort of like goal here, don't you?
Speaker 2:you have a photo shoot coming. The goal is to just not get fat again right now. But yes, yeah, I am trying to slim down just a little bit. I'm chopping a few pounds off in a very slow manner. When are we releasing the? When are we releasing the Rob photo shoot?
Speaker 1:The Rob photo shoot the Rob photo shoot, the one I shared in text messages.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the one where I said, holy shit, I'd sign up for this. Where's this man?
Speaker 1:Well, now that you're teasing everybody with it, it's Rob hanging out with Pippin yeah In Christmas sweaters.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's quite adorable, really cute christmas sweaters. This is very cute christmas sweaters matching pippin's, just chilling his mane is all fluffed out I'm gonna have to actually do that for my christmas card next this year.
Speaker 1:Oh god, please do the thing.
Speaker 2:Have you seen those pictures where they've got like the cat superimposed in the background, like it? I don't even know how to describe this I don't think I have mall photo shoot. This is a great for an audio medium, by the way, um I know it's, it's amazing.
Speaker 1:I'll just describe what I see, and right now I see mike walking I mean liam walking on a trackpad while he's looking up some sort of superimposed cat picture, okay.
Speaker 2:So I have found a few of them. Let me pull this up because I can share it with you. So if you want to find this at home, what you can do is you can go type in mall photoshoot superimposed and I'll try to describe the picture so that perhaps you too at home can find it. Um window chrome tab share. So it's like this one. Right here there's a picture of a man with his family oh that kind of thing, yeah, and his face is quite large, superimposed as the background, and then it's his what I presume to be wife and three children there smiling, and then he's just kind of wistfully looking off in the distance, but very large behind him. And there are several others like this one here, the guy with the mustache and his family superimposed on top of it. That's what I'm talking, and his family superimposed on top of it. That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:So you'd have.
Speaker 2:Pippin as this very large superimposition, and then you'd just be hanging out here. You could even be holding him still in there. Just have a large Pippin behind you.
Speaker 1:If nobody knows what you're talking about and they're too lazy to look it up, they just have to wait for my Christmas card to come out.
Speaker 2:Rob will be sending them out through his email. This is a whole family of people dressed up as that one picture of the rock with the black turtleneck sweater and the necklace and the jeans, and it's just six people dressed up that way. I would do this.
Speaker 1:I think you would be. That's what we're doing.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely. When are you coming to Texas, when it's safe to? I guess it means you're not coming. I'll have to go to Canada. There is not a safe time to come to Texas.
Speaker 2:Oh man, I did want to go to visit you guys this year, but between border troubles and money troubles, the prognosis was a bit more sunny when we were talking about this last year around this time, yeah, and then a lot of things happened, politically, personally, schedule wise, in all of our lives. It's, it's tough because it's, I'll tell you and I know that you relate to me, heavy on this I, finding a community was always tough for me. Yeah, it's, I would find a friend here and there, but finding like a community, finding a unit, was tough. And we finally found it here, but everybody's spread out so far away that it's, it's tough. It's hardly do we ever get to actually see each other, unfortunately we'll have to put up with streaming together.
Speaker 1:Hey, what?
Speaker 2:are you doing tomorrow night? Uh, tomorrow night I'm streaming with rob laugham, uh, doing something ridiculous for a camera we're gonna do.
Speaker 1:Uh, no man's sky because it just dropped some sort of big update.
Speaker 2:Let me check it it's been on my wish list for a lot of years and I've just never bought it.
Speaker 1:I saw it was on your wish list.
Speaker 2:Let me see where it is. Will this be out? You turn these around fairly quickly. Oh yeah, this will be out by then. Okay, so anybody? Listening to this tomorrow, which is now today, tomorrow being August 28th, so if anybody listening to this, today you want to come hang out with me and Mike and the community will be on Twitch.
Speaker 1:You can go to my channel, rob Lapham, or you go to Mike's channel. Mike needs a plan.
Speaker 2:This is the very narrow sliver of time in which this podcast is out and the stream has not happened yet. Yeah, you can.
Speaker 1:You can get congratulations to everybody who listened to this within the first um, uh, 12 hours of it being released. You know how about we?
Speaker 2:what should be the code word here? We should have some kind of code word that, if they come into the chat and they say it so, though, that being said, they could still say it weeks from now.
Speaker 1:So it's only going to count. Tomorrow We'll know that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's only going to count tomorrow. So if you're in and you say banana bread, you would put bananas in it. Somebody that didn't want to just have a banana and didn't just want to have bread.
Speaker 1:All right, you come into our stream and you say banana bread. What's going to happen?
Speaker 2:Aside, of me hating you. I'm going to whip it out. I'm going to stand there with my arms behind my head. Well, now no one's gonna come. I might wait until the auto mod takes us out, and that'll, and I'll do it until I break.
Speaker 1:You know, we should actually. I should actually do a. I don't know if I can, I don't know if twitch will let me do this, but, um, whip it out. We can do a secret in moderation.
Speaker 2:Gift card giveaway oh okay, oh what. What would be the gift? Oh, for the, uh, the merch store, for the merch store yeah okay, I will wear one of my my shirts tomorrow.
Speaker 2:Excellent, I think that'll be a good occasion to whip one of them out. Well, you did say you'd whip it out. I did say and whip it out. I didn't say what it was, so it was the in moderation merch. I've got my mug. I've got my shirts. I've got a bunch of books from you, some of your training guides. You still have those up, right, I bought them a while ago. Yep, yep.
Speaker 1:Still have them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's great information. By the way, very affordable price. I mean, if we're talking about what to buy, what not to buy, in a weight loss journey, that's a great place to start, very affordable information.
Speaker 1:Good plug and play stuff.
Speaker 2:There it's, I've a fair amount of effort into that it's fantastic. It seems like a little bit more unfair, unless, of course, you were just a supercomputer of a human being, which I know you to be. Uh, yeah, it's great info there and um, you honestly, rob is is devaluing it by not charging $10 million for it. So get it before he's got an ego about him and charges what he's worth.
Speaker 1:So yeah, anybody comes into the stream tomorrow when we're live. You say banana bread and I'll figure out a way to put everybody into a draw.
Speaker 2:See, I've got an unfair advantage because I know the keyword already. I don't got to listen to the podcast to figure it out.
Speaker 1:Hosts and guests are not eligible for this reward.
Speaker 2:I guess I'll just not stream tomorrow.
Speaker 1:Damn.
Speaker 2:I've found a way around the system or I'll just rig it. Did they have McDonald's?
Speaker 1:You'll just send somebody else in as your Make a bunch of fake accounts and just come in.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Whose Mark needs a plan? I don't know who that is.
Speaker 1:Mark is your Stan.
Speaker 2:Did you have McDonald's Monopoly up in Canada when they were doing that? Okay, were you aware?
Speaker 1:of the scandal. I want to say yes, but it's not coming to mind.
Speaker 2:So there was a scandal in which somebody that worked at McDonald's corporate had figured out how to get the rare pieces and he would just distribute them to his friends. He knew where they were going, where they were going to be sent, and he said well, just go to this McDonald's at this time and you'll be able to get the extra piece. So, like no one ever won the big prizes other than this guy's friends, and that's why they had to stop the whole contest, Wow. So that's what I'm going to do tomorrow.
Speaker 1:I'm going to make sure one lucky guest gets.
Speaker 2:Boardwalk Won't be me, so that's what I'm going to do tomorrow. I'm going to make sure one lucky guest gets boardwalk.
Speaker 1:Won't be me. It'll just be somebody you conveniently know from somewhere.
Speaker 2:Somebody that just looks like me. Be like. I don't have my cool sunglasses here. I don't know where they went. I had my cool sunglasses on for that bit that I did at the beginning of the other episode. You lost your sunglasses.
Speaker 1:We've got to get an official. An official, you know what else? That you don't need to spend money on fresh fruit, you can buy frozen, you can buy canned.
Speaker 2:It's in fact, uh purportedly more nutritious to get it in a canned form, because they save it and they store it and preserve it more quickly with more of the nutrients intact particularly when it's frozen.
Speaker 1:You like, if you're just a single person, you can use a little bit and just put it back in the freezer. You don't have to worry about wasting it. That's what I hate about buying vegetables and and fruit is I'll get through sometimes just a quarter of the bag and then it'll be like, okay, there goes the rest of it because it I couldn't eat it fast enough this is especially good information for those of you that are used to the changing of the guards.
Speaker 2:And what I mean by the changing of the guards is you buy a bag of salad mix with the best of intentions and then it sits in your refrigerator until it goes brown and then, because you want to hold the line, you go buy a new one and then you replace the old one with the new one to repeat the process. You've changed the guards, so if you are a person who does this, it's okay. No one is judging you. A good way to reintroduce this is to find a recipe that it belongs in. Don't just buy the ingredients and expect you're going to make something magical of it. Go to fucking. Have you had tasty shreds on here yet? No, you got to have tasty shreds on here.
Speaker 2:I'll do the episode with him. I would love to get to hang out with him here. He makes great recipes on Instagram. Just start there. I won't even give you more names to those of you listening. Just go to tastyreds and just find two or three recipes that he's got and then go get the recipes or the ingredients for that. That's your shopping list. What do I eat? What do I do Find shit you like and then find people that have lost 80 pounds or 100 pounds, that know how to make good versions of it that help you lose some weight because they're lower in calories and higher in protein but actually taste like something. And you're cruising, my friend.
Speaker 1:You know what else you don't need. You don't. You don't necessarily need to go to the store. If you're going to go to the store and you're going to walk down the snack aisle and throw everything in the cart, you can use a delivery service For sure.
Speaker 2:You just look at what's there, take a look, take a couple of picks and just have it sent to you.
Speaker 1:Great way to go about it and again, like with the recipe, you've got the list right in front of you. There's the recipe. You grab the stuff that's on the recipe. You don't have to go looking at the snacks. You can even you could technically even use some sort of uh app or um plug-in extension to block those specific um urls for snacks and stuff, if you wanted to go that far, which I. You don't have to, that's just saying.
Speaker 2:If you feel like you're at a point where you can right now, we would both like you to revisit that at some point, but if it's like your first week or something and you just don't want to see that stuff up to you, Just like how people block porn for a month or two or three. Yeah, people do that. I definitely did that a long time ago. I don't see any of that anymore, definitely don't have a second computer that's a whole topic for another day.
Speaker 1:You know what else you don't have to do when you're trying to save money and stuff Buy porn, Jerk off on the subway. Oh shit, oh no, you have to do that.
Speaker 2:That's a passage, it's the best place to do it. Jer, you have a passage, it's the best place to do it. Jerganoff does not necessarily lower your testosterone nor motivation. We don't have any studies to indicate that at any strong degree. So anybody that hears that you're losing gains by uh, cranking the hog as the kids say um, you're fine yeah, I do, unfortunately, know people that spend a little too much time and money looking at porn oh, it can definitely be a problem like like, yeah, yeah, let's, let's not get that mixed up, but it's in much different ways.
Speaker 2:Just like any, uh, mental dependence on something, a psychological dependence, especially the way that, like the studio, stuff is filmed where it's quite exploitative and disgusting in many ways, like it's. It's best to stay away from that. Anyway, mike's an expert on that. I'm an expert in porn. Yeah, spend a lot of time. Well, it's what the internet is for. Just like some people can hear a half second of a beatles song and know exactly what the beatles song is, hello me. I can do the same thing by hearing just a half second of a clip of porn.
Speaker 2:Damn I know exactly what it is Every time.
Speaker 1:That's impressive.
Speaker 2:Not a video. I haven't seen Anyone's like how do you keep it? Up. Oh, that is Step Neighbor with Large Rack. It's Step Neighbor. It's my mom married somebody's neighbor, so this is now my step neighbor. It's step neighbor. It's my mom married somebody's neighbor, so this is now my step neighbor. It's a large rack on front and back Gets drilled by other step neighbor too.
Speaker 1:Oh, so the step neighbor is getting drilled by the step neighbor.
Speaker 2:Yes, okay, functionally speaking, strangers. We don't really need titles in this situation. They're just people, they're just neighbors. But it doesn't sell well enough if we don't include some kind of incest involved. Liam, if you're listening back to this, this is what happens when you leave the driver's seat unattended your dual driver's seat with Rob, where you've both got steering wheels and drive a zany Roger Rabbit car.
Speaker 1:I almost get the feeling Liam's listening to this and going. You know I should do this more often.
Speaker 2:He's going to pop up behind you and he's going to be dressed up in the full Willy Wonka garb and say my boy, you've done it. It is your factory now. I was looking for one special little boy to take over. I got the golden ticket. Of course we will have to deal with the slavery allegations, yeah yeah. But in the US they're trying to make that a thing. They want to teach it in schools that slavery actually wasn't that bad.
Speaker 1:I saw that. That triggered you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they want to say that slavery is better than death. Don't worry kids, it could be worse, you could be dead. It used to be give me liberty or give me death.
Speaker 1:Now it's give me slavery or give me death.
Speaker 2:Now it's give me slavery or death would be worse, so please give me slavery, okay.
Speaker 1:Well, okay, so we went from give me liberty or give me death to give me slavery. Okay, well so, okay. So we went from give me liberty or give me death to give me slavery.
Speaker 2:We went from step neighbor gets railed by the front and the back by other step neighbor to. To this, to a Willy Wonka reference to this. Oh man, next time he texts me at 11 o'clock it says Mike, mike, emergency. He's going to think twice about it.
Speaker 1:I, I, you know, I myself have been having a hell of a week and so it's 10 30 here. And I got the notification from liam that he just wasn't going to be able to do it because oakley's screaming and hollering at him. And I was just like uh, mike I'm in.
Speaker 2:I want to get an official tally on how many of these I've done so far. I got to look through and count them, see what's going on. But yeah, I'm always thrilled to be here and thrilled to hang out. It's to get some. I'll talk about this real quick. This is not a plug, but it is not that you would stop me from plugging, but it just feels like a plug.
Speaker 2:In my group coaching community today, we were talking, it was our open floor coaching session and we, just there, we just started goofing off in the chat a little bit Like I saw a couple of jokes here and there I, you know, lost my straight face and started laughing.
Speaker 2:And you know, we were just bouncing back and forth and I was getting through some of the lessons and they were throwing jokes at me in the chat and I'd laugh and throw it back and by the end of it we were just having fun. And it was just a powerful moment to me, because not two years ago was I just off of leaving my job to pursue this motion that I was picking up online to see if maybe in about three months I gave myself three months to just break even on my rent. I didn't need to be rich. It still hasn't happened and won't. But I just gave myself three months to try to break even on my rent and I made it at the last minute. It was back then. I could not have expected what all I've gotten to do since, so I think my point here is like it will.
Speaker 2:That happened before. Actually, that was a couple of years. Even prior to that, that was 22. For those of you that don't know, I also got a vasectomy a few years ago. If anybody's on the fence about this thing, they could have just as easily done it like at a mall kiosk, in a Claire's. It did not hurt. There's been no maintenance, no upkeep. I get tested every year just to make sure that nothing's reconnected or nothing. But it took 20 minutes and I walked back to my own car. The alternative for our partners is sometimes devastating it's Liam's situation.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean that too. It's also, you have a baby. But I'm more so like the hormonal birth controls.
Speaker 1:Oh, you were talking about birth control, of female birth control.
Speaker 2:A baby is the ultimate Holy shit, which is why I got the vasectomy. I don't have any kids. This is me not having kids and never will. But yeah, it's just a really good option. Talk to your doctor about it. Don't listen to your influencer. Talk to your doctor about it.
Speaker 1:Talk to your doctor about Mike's plan.
Speaker 2:My plan is parenthood, my planned parenthood. The opposite way I I'm planning to, not your planned non-parenthood yeah, planned non-parenthood. We'll have to workshop this one.
Speaker 1:We'll figure it out that's actually um, what you're talking about there that's. I think that's something that's sorely lacking in the health industry is people just laughing and having fun.
Speaker 2:It's so serious, and if it's not serious it's angry. And I get angry sometimes, you see, just like you do. We're very politically and socially minded, but to not have fun with this is what kind of life is it?
Speaker 1:The thing killing people the most, the thing that will lower your lifespan the most, is stressing over every single thing and that's all they want you to do now is every ingredient is toxic.
Speaker 2:Don't wear certain fabrics because it'll leach into your flesh and make you grow a third arm. It's like they want us to be afraid of everything because they want to create the problem and sell the solution.
Speaker 1:Unfortunately, fear does that really well. You can tell that they do not have your health interest in mind because they are not thinking about your mental health. No, even if they weren't in it just for the money, even if they thought they were doing something good for you, they were still fear mongering it. They're still not thinking. They're only thinking about physical health. There is more to health than just the physical health.
Speaker 2:There's the mental health, there's the sexual health and there's the Mike needs a health, and there's the Mike needs a health. When I started my group coaching program, I spent the first three months hardly even once talking about weight loss. I didn't touch calories, I didn't touch macros. We would talk habits, but those habits could really go towards any self-building or personal development. When I started to introduce numbers, we had such a strong and solid foundation of habits that assigning a point system to it didn't make it a losing game. We talked about the mindset. The mindset is where I started. Everybody.
Speaker 2:I've got a six question system on how to find your why and it forces you to introspect and there's no weight loss questions about it. In fact, you can use it for any goal you have. That's why I designed it that way. The mindset is if you don't have that and you can't seem to keep your calories in check and you can't seem to get your habits in check and your weekends are kind of crazy, don't blame yourself. This isn't a moral failing. You didn't do anything wrong. You just don't know where you're going right now. You've got to have the mindset. Rob nailed it there.
Speaker 1:Well, if you're looking for an e-book, head over to the In Moderation store and if you're looking for a group coach, head over to. Mike Needs a Plan.
Speaker 2:Rob, you've got to come in and teach a lesson or two on that book so we can just have some kind of joint thing for people to come check out. Sounds like a plan. I think we should do that. I think people are honestly at this point now those who have been asking for me to do collabs with people. They've probably gotten enough of me coming on here and making the fool of myself, as they say, getting to hang out and and joke and chat it's. It is so desperately and, like you said, sorely needed, especially through a journeys that can feel very lonely and speaking of hanging out, make sure you come check us out on twitch today or in the past.
Speaker 1:If you are listening after thursday, you can listen to it anytime. Yeah, and don't forget banana bread.
