Thanksgiving Without Guilt

What if Thanksgiving didn’t come with a side of guilt? We dive into a saner way to handle the holiday table, where a single boundary—don’t leave the table sick—does more for your well-being than any frantic plan to “burn off” your meal the next day. Along the way, we get delightfully opinionated about dry turkey, mid stuffing, and the eternal debate over mashed potatoes, while keeping the focus on what matters most: people, presence, and peace of mind.

We unpack why the scale often jumps after big meals and why it’s not fat gain. Think sodium, water retention, extra food mass, and a temporary carb bump. Give it a few days of normal eating, sleep, and easy movement, and that number drifts back without punishment workouts or crash resets. We also call out the holiday procrastination spiral—Thanksgiving, then Christmas, then New Year’s—and show how to enjoy the day and still keep your momentum. A simple plate approach can help if you like structure, but conversation makes the best portion control: eat slower, ask questions, listen, and you’ll naturally hit “enough” without counting a single gram.

Beyond tactics, we open up about the mindset shifts that make maintenance stick. The real work isn’t just swapping recipes; it’s addressing why food became a coping tool in the first place. That’s where community and coaching shine—helping you replace all-or-nothing thinking with flexible habits you can trust. Laugh with us through the hot takes, keep the plate you love, and leave the table feeling good, not guilty.

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Chapters

• 0:00 Cold Open: Chips, Shoes, Chaos
• 5:38 Retro Tech, Theater Bits, Absurdity
• 8:38 Pivot To Thanksgiving Mindset
• 13:28 One-Day Impact, Weight Myths
• 18:58 Overrated Dishes Debate
• 25:18 Corn Tangents And Mythbusting
• 30:38 Moose, DeLorean, And Fryers
• 33:43 Stop “Burning Off” Calories
• 35:18 Group Coaching, Mindset Work
• 38:18 Next Meetups And Closing Bits

Transcript

Cold Open: Chips, Shoes, Chaos

SPEAKER_00 0:36

Welcome to Mouth Kiss Between Friends.

SPEAKER_01 0:39

Oh, I like this show way better than what we normally do. It might be a little tough since we're all in different states or countries, but we'll make it work.

SPEAKER_00 0:48

Well, unless we'll be a state of you guys sooner or later, right? Speak of states, the DeLorean.

SPEAKER_01 0:55

No. Um the freaking, yeah, Rob's always talking about the all-dressed chips. Got these from Lay's. You guys gotta pick these up, man. They are good. I haven't had them in a while. I have had them before, but I forgot. They're like ketchup y, but good. Not just like pure ketchup. It's like they reined in the ketchup enough, and there's something, and there's enough of the other things in there, and it's really good.

SPEAKER_02 1:19

It's not quite barbecue, it's not quite ketchup, it's it's some kind of marriage between the two with some extra Canadian magic in there.

SPEAKER_01 1:28

Because I'm tired of like sour cream and onion and what's the what are the other ones they're always? Salt and vinegar. Salt and vinegar.

SPEAKER_02 1:35

Like it's good, but maybe there's always a cool ranch. Give us some novelty. And something we haven't seen. You know, Prinkles just came out with a hickory smoked bacon flavor, which I've not tried yet.

SPEAKER_01 1:48

I'm not weary of bacon because people fuck it up too easily. You ever eat something with bacon flavor, and you're like, what were you doing? Who told you what bacon tastes like?

SPEAKER_02 1:59

Like turkey bacon, for example. Speaking of turkey, yes. Oh, solid segue right there. Um, smooth. Liam, there's a scandal afoot.

SPEAKER_01 2:11

There's a sc there's many scandals afoot. Which one are we discussing right now?

SPEAKER_02 2:15

Uh, this one I've not brought up with you yet. I wanted to wait until I saw you in uh digital person. Let me well, I mean, she told me she wouldn't share those pictures with anyone, but all right, go ahead. Well, I just want to commend your performance in those pictures, but we'll get to that a different time. So you see this picture right here. See some two handsome gentlemen that have been putting out some quality content. Now I said that there was a scandal afoot. Uh something I noticed about your video. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:42

Uh, from the show. You used that picture? There's another where there's a much better one where you can see both my shoes. Oh, okay. This is where I saw it. It's a little bit more.

SPEAKER_02 2:49

Yeah, but this one right here. Liam, you're wearing two different colored shoes. I wanted to ask what it comes this way.

SPEAKER_01 2:55

I went to the store and I was looking at Converse as I wanted to do because I'm a Converse man. I don't know if you guys have seen iRobot with Will Smith. Solid movie. But it's like the 2050 in the movie, and he's like, Converse are still good. Like they're retro in the movie, but he's still wearing them. I'm like, yo, he's right. Like, Converse are gonna be around forever because they are just a fucking sexy ass shoe. They're a good shoe. And so I'm looking at the Converse as I'm one to do, and I'm looking at the black and the red ones, and I'm like, I like both of these a lot. High top, oh, just so nice. And I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna buy both of these fuckers, and I'm gonna wear one of each. So I got a red shoe, I got red on one and black on the other. Now, when those fade out, or like those, you know, do that, then I just switch them and I got another pair. So I'm still wearing two pairs, I still got two pairs of shoes. How smart is that? It's the best, it's the best decision I've made.

SPEAKER_00 3:47

It really makes me feel like you're going bowling because whenever you go bowling, you get the bowling alley shoes, they're red and black.

SPEAKER_01 3:52

Mine are usually I guess they're kind of like multicolored or whatever. I I went to the DMV for my car and I got like four people that walked to me. I like those shoes. I was like, thank you. I feel like this was a great decision.

SPEAKER_02 4:04

You know what? I gotta say, those shoes are no turkey. That is uh some juicy meat you got right there. It's like no cap. I think this is a a new yeah, no cap, as the kids say.

SPEAKER_01 4:14

I've never whatever new says it's it up in Ohio. I'm not even gonna look it up. I'm not even gonna look up what it means. I'm just gonna wait until it changes shortly for until something else. I'm too old for this at this point. What is six seven? I don't know. We discussed absolutely no idea. It's a good polyrhythm. I have you you could tell me it's anything, and I'd be like, yeah, okay. Sounds good. That's fine. That sounds fine. Wait till it I'm gonna wait till it's 6'9 again. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 4:44

Man, shrinkflation is affecting everything.

SPEAKER_01 4:47

Oh that's what it is. It's 69. A little bit off the top.

SPEAKER_02 4:52

That's can't even afford a good 69 anymore.

SPEAKER_01 4:57

We can only afford 6'7.

SPEAKER_00 4:58

I think we've just figured out what 6'7 is.

Retro Tech, Theater Bits, Absurdity

SPEAKER_01 5:02

Oh, fuck, that's good. It's shrinkflation. I mean, it's so like that shit's everywhere. I saw like a video of like some college basketball, or not even maybe even high school. I don't know. And they were like, it was two free throws to make it 67. 67 points. And like the crowd went wild when she hit both of them. I was like, this is crazy. People are all in on this, and I have no idea what it is or what it means.

SPEAKER_02 5:31

I think by the time you get merch out there for it, it's already probably out of the press.

SPEAKER_01 5:36

It's already gone.

SPEAKER_02 5:37

It's already gone.

SPEAKER_01 5:38

That's why we need to do all like the retro and vintage stuff. It just stays. We're good.

SPEAKER_02 5:42

Can't wait for laser discs to come back. That's I've invested thousands of dollars in laser discs. It's I'm sure they're coming back around.

SPEAKER_01 5:50

I mean, everything records have come back now. Like everybody's talking about records. Betamax.

SPEAKER_02 5:55

I'm going all in on the Commodore 64.

SPEAKER_01 5:58

What the hell's a Betamax? I don't even know.

SPEAKER_02 6:01

It was like it was the there was VHS and there was Betamax, and they were kind of like going head to head to see which one would become media.

SPEAKER_00 6:09

Wait, you you really didn't know Betamax?

SPEAKER_01 6:11

Um I'm in I'm in the dark. I'm with 6'7 on this one. I don't know what's going on. Wow. Um Betamax. I had VHS, that's all I'm old. I'm the youngest one here. I think I just missed it, I guess. I just went right to VHS. What was VHS? How did people play movies before VHS? They just didn't?

SPEAKER_02 6:29

You just went to the theater? They hallucinated.

SPEAKER_01 6:32

They actually went out and did shit. Yeah, they had porn did stuff.

SPEAKER_02 6:36

They had to visit a big room with a screen in it and eat popcorn with their hands or do other things with their hands if you're Pee Wee Herman.

SPEAKER_01 6:43

Right. Man, going to a like a porn theater has to be a real choice. Like, I can't imagine walking in with just like there's tons of other people, and you just sit down to watch porn with all of them. I can't even pee if somebody else walks into the bathroom. I don't even want to use one of those trough urnals. Yeah, hold on. Let me go to the theater to get boners with strangers. I I that's a that's a real choice that I'm glad I've never made.

SPEAKER_02 7:10

And please two tickets to the 230 boner matinee.

SPEAKER_01 7:14

What's playing? I don't care. My life's a wreck anyway, clearly. What do you think I care?

SPEAKER_02 7:20

That'd be the worst time for the guy with the flashlight to come into the room. We can check it for everybody's tickets.

SPEAKER_01 7:27

Oh no. I don't even I didn't even think about that.

SPEAKER_02 7:31

Why is there popcorn all over the floor at the corner scene?

SPEAKER_00 7:34

Why is there a guy putting with a flashlight and not a guy hawking fleshlights?

SPEAKER_01 7:39

Well, they have both. You never know which one. Flashlights, dude. Get your flashlight. Get the flashlight. Life's great, man. Life's so good.

SPEAKER_02 7:55

AMC branded fleshlights changes. You can't take them away.

SPEAKER_01 7:59

This can never air.

SPEAKER_02 8:01

Take two. Well, happy Thanksgiving, everyone.

SPEAKER_01 8:04

Welcome in moderation. The real eyebrow high road podcasts.

Pivot To Thanksgiving Mindset

SPEAKER_02 8:10

I figured we could talk about Thanksgiving today for those people out there who are maybe nervous about going into family situations. Luckily, they won't be listening to this with their families. If this was a time-honored family tradition for you in moderation, I'm sorry. That's done. And if it isn't a time-honored tradition, why isn't it?

SPEAKER_01 8:31

Make it one.

SPEAKER_02 8:33

Unless they rented out a porn theater to watch this on YouTube, in which case, God bless you.

SPEAKER_01 8:38

What do you normally do? Sit there with family and cut the turkey? Boring. Everybody's done that.

SPEAKER_00 8:43

Oh man. You guys, you guys make such a big spectacle of Thanksgiving. I think that's the number one difference between American and Canadian Thanksgiving. Ours is just this small thing where like the families get together and have a private dinner and you guys like plaster it everywhere. You've got it like a Thanksgiving Day parade.

SPEAKER_01 9:01

We kind of do that for every like, don't we do that for like all our holidays? Isn't it just completely over the top? Like, and like every any opportunity to stuff our faces as much as possible, we take with just reckless abandon.

SPEAKER_02 9:15

Oh, yeah. Absolutely. It's it's everything's an eating holiday. I mean, what is Halloween like in Canada? Is it the same as here?

SPEAKER_00 9:24

Um, we have to work for our candy by fridging through one to two feet of snow.

SPEAKER_01 9:32

Oh, yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 9:33

Yeah, we don't get that anymore. BP and Shell got rid of snow a while ago.

SPEAKER_01 9:37

Yeah. Thankfully. I'm looking forward to my uh, you know, waterside property pretty soon.

SPEAKER_02 9:45

78 degree October's my favorite thing, sweating in a costume. I don't think we'd be able to get away with trick-or-treating at our height, any of us.

SPEAKER_00 9:55

Uh I remember when we were doing it uh when we were younger, we'd have to have like our our snow winter jackets underneath the costumes, so the costumes would be like twice the actual size of our arms because they were filled out.

SPEAKER_01 10:10

I didn't even think about it.

SPEAKER_00 10:11

You could see buff Spider-Man walking around.

SPEAKER_01 10:13

Right. Yeah, exactly. You know, here's what you do you have a fucking toddler. People love toddlers. I brought Oakley out. Everyone loved Oakley. They're giving her all the candy and everything. That's the way to do it. I get all the free candy. There might be some other downsides. That's why you had a kid. That's you might have to deal with a few things that you didn't foresee in the beginning, but you know, for the it's really worth it for the candy. That's why we're talking about Thanksgiving today instead of Halloween.

SPEAKER_02 10:38

I just found out recently they actually sell that candy at Walmart for five dollars. I know. Hard life is a lie. Did you guys just hear my walking pad talk a second ago? No. No. Okay. So my walking pad lately, it's it's got Bluetooth for this thing right here. And recently the neighbors have like found a way to connect to it. And every once in a while I will hear music coming through my walking pad. What? Yes. What music they play in Get Low? It's yeah, it's usually bird by the trash man. It's got some bass. Now, if if my walking pad had the ability to play bass, if it had subwoofers in it, I think I'd hear the bass, but it's all like very high frequency parts of the songs. So I'm like missing the beats of it.

SPEAKER_00 11:26

So either your neighbors are expert trolls or they don't know the difference between the Bluetooth devices.

SPEAKER_02 11:34

I think they're trying to listen to music and they aren't getting to it.

SPEAKER_01 11:40

That's pretty great. That's pretty great. I like it. But you know what else is great?

SPEAKER_02 11:46

Thanksgiving.

SPEAKER_01 11:47

DeLoreans. Man, I just cannot oh, Thanksgiving. Right. No, Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving too.

SPEAKER_02 11:54

Unfortunately, in the uh in the movie, Marty would have traveled back to 1985 before Thanksgiving in 1955. So he would have just missed getting to have a nice dinner with Doc. Not that you would know. Damn.

SPEAKER_01 12:08

No, I I've never had them in the dark. I know about as much as this is 6'7. Um but like with Thanksgiving, people like I think it's for me, for me, it's like the day you're like, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not gonna be worried about like the fact that the mashed potatoes are mostly butter, right? It's like 20% potato, like 80% butter, and like all the other things. Like, I'm just gonna enjoy my day, right? I mean, like, you're with the family. Like, are you really gonna be thinking about like how am I gonna hit my macros with this meal? You know, where you guys at?

One-Day Impact, Weight Myths

SPEAKER_02 12:43

Yeah, we don't need to be hitting macros on Thanksgiving. We'll hit now it one of the rules that I'll I'll let me go back to what I call my first mindful Thanksgiving. Okay. It was after I'd lost all of my weight, I was actually underweight at this point, and I had recognized that I can't lose any more weight safely. And losing weight wasn't gonna be the answer to happiness and healthiness, so I had to gain. But before I did that, I learned how to maintain. And one of the things that I was doing on Thanksgiving, I'm like, I I I can't bring a food scale, I'm not gonna do that.

SPEAKER_01 13:16

Yeah, that's uh Thanksgiving. So that would be rough. Hold on, guys, can you just scooch over the gravy?

SPEAKER_02 13:22

Hold on, real quick. I gotta weigh six more grams of turkey. Yeah, it's like it's it's not gonna go well. So, what I decided on, because I'm like, I I don't know if I'm gonna be able to track anything, I won't be able to reliably count anything. So, how can I gauge whether or not I've had too much? Simple. Don't walk away from the table sick. That is that was my only rule that year, and it's to this day, it's my only rule on the that's a solid rule.

SPEAKER_01 13:48

Like, that's a good rule.

SPEAKER_02 13:49

Don't walk away from the table sick. Have whatever you want, go slow, take your bites intentionally, and just don't walk away from the table sick.

SPEAKER_00 13:55

My thing is you shouldn't end the day feeling guilty. So you shouldn't feel guilty that you didn't sit down and eat with your food with your family. You shouldn't feel guilty that or rather, you you you shouldn't eat so much that you feel guilty. You if you are uh trying really hard to adhere to a diet and you actually do want to stick to it, you shouldn't let people guilt you into just pigging out. Yeah. Like at the end of the day, you should feel good. Not guilty.

SPEAKER_01 14:29

You shouldn't feel guilty about blowing up on your Aunt Marie about talking about how vaccines cause autism now. You don't feel guilty about that.

unknown 14:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:38

And the other thing is just eat slow and focus on conversing. It's supposed to be uh well, at least in Canada, it's a day of sitting down with your family and conversing and having a good time. Focus on the conversation rather than the food.

SPEAKER_01 14:53

That is the one. Focus on the conversation. I like that. You're talking to people and instead of just like I have to eat this as fast as possible.

SPEAKER_02 15:01

You can replicate everything else on that table other than the people any other time of year. Exactly. You can make a pumpkin pie in June if you want to.

SPEAKER_01 15:10

It's a good pie.

SPEAKER_02 15:11

Solid pie. Yeah, you're gonna get pumpkin sweats, you know, but it like you can do it. You can make turkey and stuffing in March. It doesn't matter. There's no rules. We have a fascist Nazi in office. Do whatever the fuck you want. I the world is burning. You think he gives a fuck? Oh, God.

SPEAKER_00 15:29

If he wants a key lime pie in December, he will have someone killed to get it. I hear he randomly decided to just unpardon Biden's pardon birds or whatever it is you do down there.

SPEAKER_01 15:40

I didn't even know that was a thing. I'm gonna be perfectly honest with you.

SPEAKER_00 15:43

Wait, he unpardoned He unpardoned the birds that Biden pardoned.

SPEAKER_02 15:48

Are they alive? Like, did he track them down? Do they keep them somewhere? Are they tagged?

SPEAKER_01 15:54

So basically, what you're saying, instead of unpardon, he set out a hit. He set out a hit on birds.

SPEAKER_00 16:00

Yeah, that sounds about right.

SPEAKER_01 16:02

Oh my gosh. What did the birds?

SPEAKER_00 16:05

There's a topic for you guys to talk around the table about.

SPEAKER_01 16:08

I guess so. Better than some of the other stuff people bring up. I'll tell you that. Um but like even on like honestly, like Thanksgiving, is it even that crazy? Like you get turkey, green bean casserole, potatoes. What else is there? Lots of pieces?

SPEAKER_02 16:25

Lots of pies.

SPEAKER_01 16:26

And then, yeah, like just where you get your pie. That's not even that crazy.

SPEAKER_02 16:29

Yeah. Sweet potato pie or two, which comes with dinner for some reason.

SPEAKER_00 16:33

Stick to the usual rule, you know, a third of your plate protein, a third of your plate greens, a third of your plate starch.

SPEAKER_01 16:40

You know what I okay. You know what I think the problem is? You know what I think the problem is? Is people go like, well, Thanksgiving's coming up, so I shouldn't like do my diet now. And then, you know, Christmas is coming up soon, right? Christmas is gonna be here soon, so I might as well not even do that. And then I got New Year's, right? So I should probably wait for that. And then you just kind of keep waiting. It's just like, oh no, just fucking have a day where you just eat, you know, whatever's at the table, and then just whatever the next day. You're good. That's it.

SPEAKER_00 17:06

Like you see that a lot in the numbers as a trainer this time of year. Everybody just you you lose lots of clients, nobody's signing up for anything. Right. They're just they just kind of give up for this period of the season. And then New Year's comes and boom, everybody's got to be like, Oh, I've got to get my New Year's body, New Year's resolution.

SPEAKER_01 17:26

It's like, no, skip that shit. And just like have a day in Thanksgiving, eat, and like, and then you get back to like what is it, 3,500 calories and a pound of fat? You're not even eating that much at fucking Thanksgiving. Calm down. People think that you have like one bad meal, one bad quotations meal, and then you know, you gain like five pounds. Like, that's not how it's what's not how it works.

SPEAKER_02 17:46

One day of your year is 0.2 it's like 0.25% of your year. It's not even a full percent.

SPEAKER_01 17:56

No.

SPEAKER_02 17:57

It's barely a quarter of a percentage of your entire year. There's nothing you could do on one day that will mess you up that badly, anyway.

SPEAKER_01 18:07

You could go full Joey chestnut and eat 69, 67 hot dogs.

SPEAKER_00 18:12

Further Liam's point there, um, if you're if you eat five pounds of food, regardless of how many calories that is, you're gonna see the scale go up five pounds because you put five pounds of weight into your body until you water. That doesn't mean you put on five pounds of fat.

SPEAKER_01 18:31

I think that's what it is. You eat all the carbs, you get the yeah, right? You just water shit, and then people are like, damn.

Overrated Dishes Debate

SPEAKER_02 18:38

Don't weigh yourself for a week after Thanksgiving. The number that will be on that scale is a lie. That's a good point. You are thrown off. If you get on a even if you eat normally and you but you had to get on a plane in between, just being up in the air will make you retain water. It's crazy what the human body will do when circumstances change. Don't weigh yourself for a week.

SPEAKER_00 18:58

Yeah, there's so much variability in our weight, especially around big meals. I mean, until you pass that a five-pound bowel movement, you're still five pounds up. And that's not fat again. That's just a bowel movement.

SPEAKER_02 19:11

I have a picture from last year. I had taken a picture of myself after a Thanksgiving meal. Oh, yeah. And then the next day, and I it's I I hated posting that first picture because I'm you know looking a little round, but the next day I'm good. I'm like, you know, I've got definition again. And it's just like, hey, my body did a thing, it digested.

SPEAKER_01 19:33

Yeah, I consumed so much sodium in that meal that I spiked up for a little bit, and now I'm good.

SPEAKER_02 19:39

And like just enjoy family people will consume the or people will confuse the feeling of being bloated and full with having gained weight. Yes, technically speaking, you have gained weight, like physical, like as if you had stepped on the scale holding a plate of food because it's just inside of you. It's the same thing, yes. But you have not gained a significant amount of fat to the degree by which you feel it. It's give it a couple of days, you're good. Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:11

So enjoy stomach bloating is also going to be gas. Because guess what? That's stuff fermenting in your colon, in your intestines. That's gonna cause excess stretching of the gut.

SPEAKER_01 20:24

Enjoy family, enjoy food. Guys, what is your most overrated Thanksgiving food? Turkey. Recipe. You go with a turkey? I'm tempted.

SPEAKER_02 20:36

There's a reason we only eat it once a year.

SPEAKER_01 20:38

It's not, it's oh, it's definitely.

SPEAKER_02 20:39

You guys only eat it once a year?

SPEAKER_01 20:41

It's a turkey.

SPEAKER_02 20:41

It's a trash bird.

SPEAKER_01 20:42

We don't really eat turkey. Like turkey, I don't think turkey is that good. I don't even I don't really enjoy turkey. I don't enjoy turkey. It's dry, it's tasteless, it's kind of gamey. All the things people go through.

SPEAKER_00 20:54

All you guys are telling me is that you guys suck at at cooking.

SPEAKER_01 20:57

Well, what do you are you deep frying it? Because that's what I see. People are doing like going all sorts all out to try to make turkey sounds.

SPEAKER_00 21:04

But um did you see Dr. Terry? What do you what do you guys do on uh Easter and Christmas?

SPEAKER_01 21:10

Candy.

SPEAKER_00 21:11

Candy.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

I just eat a lot of fucking candy, to be honest with you. Okay, especially Easter.

SPEAKER_00 21:17

Like we eat, we eat we eat turkey Easter, Thanksgiving, and Christmas.

SPEAKER_01 21:23

I don't like sli turkey, like sliced turkey, maybe eat that once in a while, but not really. I don't even eat that. I just don't like turkey. I don't think turkey's very good. I think we should be pardoning all the turkeys. All turkeys get barred. They're not you're not tasty. Get out of here.

SPEAKER_00 21:38

Have we tried other animals yet? Like Thanksgiving lizard, everyone, gather around. So just randomly, randomly went to a vegan eatery recently. Okay. And dude, I'm telling you, the the beef there, the the fake beef, whatever the the I don't know what it was made of. Satan or something. I'm telling you, it was better than the actual ginger beef.

SPEAKER_02 22:03

Isn't that just like basically gluten that's been?

SPEAKER_01 22:07

Well, the satan is gluten, yeah. So a lot of times, like if you get like a chipped beef thing or whatever, like um, I had like a steak sub the other day that was like, yeah, satan. I was like, it's actually pretty good. I was surprised. I was like, this is what I saw. Yeah, they have like a fake turkey, like a uh faux turkey that's made out of tofu. I saw that. I tried it. That was that was I would totally try it, but it's it was$150. And I was like, I'm not paying for that. Uh no, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 22:35

That's a lot. Um I'd rather just get uh a block of tofu and crumple some turkey flavored chips on it.

SPEAKER_01 22:46

Absolutely, I would much rather do that.

SPEAKER_02 22:48

No, I'm leaving out Oreos for my vegan attendees. That's it.$150 turkey. No.

SPEAKER_01 22:55

No, thank you. No, okay, overrated. So turkey's good. I'm gonna upset a lot of people. People are gonna hate me. People are gonna like it. But listen, this is more for you, okay? If I'm not eating it, then you're eating it, right? Green bean casserole. I don't really like green bean casserole. I a lot of times the green bean casseroles are like from like the green beans from my cannon.

SPEAKER_00 23:15

You don't like something that's beans?

SPEAKER_01 23:17

Not those type of beans. Not the green beans, those green beans from a can. I do not like green beans from a can. I don't think they're not in the cabinet. They're not in my cabinet. No, they are not, and they will never be in my cabinet. They will be somewhere else because they just any I don't like like regular, like you know, navy beans and all that stuff in the can? Absolutely. I don't like so you make them with fresh like green beans and whatnot is better. I still just I'm not a big casserole fan. I don't put I'm just that's what I'm saying. Not a huge fan. Everyone's green beans on a plate. More potatoes. Give me the potatoes.

SPEAKER_00 23:56

Oh, I love my potatoes.

SPEAKER_01 23:57

Oh, the fucking mashed potatoes. I could just eat a whole plate of mashed potatoes, like just that's my favorite. Just put that on the plate. I'm happy. We're good to go.

SPEAKER_00 24:04

Yeah, that's the majority of my plate is potato.

SPEAKER_01 24:06

But the fucking mashed potatoes, man, they're so good. I made dude, I made the cottage cheese. Like somebody put like blended cottage cheese and potato, mashed potatoes, and everyone was tagging me because her in the video, she was like, You all can tag Liam if you want, and then people were like, Let's do it. I made it not half bad. I put a little bit of butter in there to be fair, but like three, four tablespoons, but in like a big batch, so it's like not even that much. But some um uh blended cottage cheese with a little milk or you use bone broth or whatever. That was good. I was surprised by how much I like that. I mean, like it's cottage cheese, it makes cheesy things, you know, for things for cheesy stuff. That makes cheesy things, yeah. It makes cheesy things, it makes cheesy things that go with cheesy and mashed potatoes, solid. I'm just saying uh you don't have to do for Thanksgiving. What I was saying at some point, it's actually pretty good.

SPEAKER_00 24:53

You know what I'm gonna say is overrated?

SPEAKER_01 24:55

What is overrated?

Corn Tangents And Mythbusting

SPEAKER_00 24:57

Mashed potatoes. Because a good baked potato.

SPEAKER_01 25:01

You want baked potato on Thanksgiving?

SPEAKER_00 25:03

You don't who said you need to have mashed potatoes? Come on. Uh, fully loaded baked potato.

SPEAKER_01 25:10

I love a fully loaded baked potato. It's Thanksgiving, motherfucker. Give me the mash potatoes. What the hell?

SPEAKER_02 25:17

A mashed potato is just a baked potato a little further down the line. That's it's all baked.

SPEAKER_01 25:23

It's the evolutionized version of the baked potato.

SPEAKER_02 25:26

Because what are you gonna do with it when it's on your plate? You're gonna start mashing it together and mixing it. So there's that word. Mash.

SPEAKER_01 25:32

Have someone do the work for you. Again, like love baked potatoes, but it's Thanksgiving. Give me the mashed potatoes.

SPEAKER_02 25:41

Rob's like, you know what? I really love eating peanuts with the shells on them. You don't? I wish there was another way of getting it.

SPEAKER_01 25:47

It's crunchier. It's crunchier, more fiber.

SPEAKER_00 25:50

No, no, no. It's yeah, I don't eat peanuts with the shells on them. I eat pistachios with the shells on them.

SPEAKER_01 25:55

Oh, it's like bones.

SPEAKER_02 26:00

Bones. It's the but like the patient has presented with many lesions in his intestines. We don't know.

SPEAKER_01 26:06

He tried a walnut and almost died.

SPEAKER_02 26:08

Not because he's allergic, because he tried to eat it with a shell. He ate the equivalent of a chunk of wood to get a quarter of a gram of food.

SPEAKER_01 26:17

We had to pull them away from the buckeyes. We told them they're poisoned.

SPEAKER_00 26:20

No, my actual overrated thing is the stuffing.

SPEAKER_01 26:24

Stuffing. Okay. It's it's kind of weird. I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, it's fine. I'm like a stuffing for me is a very just average, like five out of ten, typically. It's fine. I can take it or leave it.

SPEAKER_00 26:36

I'd rather leave room on the plate for the potatoes.

SPEAKER_01 26:38

Potatoes. But you know what I like about mashed potatoes? Corn. I like bro. I remember growing up there was like a KFC right by me, and they had like a KFC famous bowl where they had mashed potatoes and corn in it and some cheese, and obviously like a chicken or whatever. And I would get that all the time. Put a little bit of corn in there, a little bit of sweetness.

SPEAKER_02 26:58

Oh that's the KFC infamous bowl. I don't know about corn being in mashed potatoes.

SPEAKER_01 27:05

Did you never have a KFC famous bowl? Not like that. That was good. I ate that all I love. That was one. I always got that. I like I like but I also like corn and a lot of things. Corn. Corn. I really I really like corn. It's just cheap, delicious.

SPEAKER_00 27:21

Corn is really good.

SPEAKER_01 27:23

Corn's so good. America, baby. We gotta put corn in everything. We put corn in our batteries and diapers. We might as well put it in our mashed potatoes.

SPEAKER_02 27:31

We put corn in our syrup.

SPEAKER_01 27:33

Exactly. Put it in my potatoes.

SPEAKER_02 27:36

Put it in everything.

SPEAKER_01 27:37

Like a baked pot, like a load of baked potato, you put corn on that. Why not mashed potatoes? That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 27:43

I don't know. I'm skeptical. Anyone else out there that thinks uh turkey is overrated and dry and everything? Just focus on the veggies. Screw the channel.

SPEAKER_02 27:55

We have a caller. We have a caller calling the inmoderation hotline. Hold on. It's your own trying to connect to your treadmill. Shut the fuck up. Here's Warner Brothers protected music. You'll never be aired again. You'll get a hundred copyright strikes. Man. No, they were just calling to say the turkey sucks. Yeah, I don't.

SPEAKER_01 28:16

Yeah, I I usually just honestly I just like skip the turkey or they I'll take a little bit just so I think people see that I'm eating it. Like, yeah, we got turkey. Don't really need it that badly. You know what I usually do?

SPEAKER_00 28:25

I'll put the turkey on a bun.

SPEAKER_01 28:27

On a bun? That makes it better. Yeah. Like a sandwich? You make like a little turkey sandwich?

SPEAKER_00 28:32

Uh open face sandwich? I guess, yeah. I would I would I don't know. Do we call it a sandwich or a burger? Because you get the dinner dinner rolls. We usually have dinner rolls.

SPEAKER_01 28:42

I'd still call it a sandwich. I would still call it a sandwich. I think the burger is.

SPEAKER_00 28:46

Whatever you call it, that's what I do is I get a couple dinner rolls, I throw the turkey on there, give it a little butter.

SPEAKER_01 28:53

Gravy. Gravy. No gravy.

SPEAKER_00 28:55

And there you go. You've got it's it's better than just the dry turkey.

SPEAKER_01 28:59

I like that. You know what I would put on it? Corn. I was just about to fucking say corn. You know what go great with this? Just little pieces of shit going everywhere. Little pieces of corn. You gotta try to like sequester them in the middle when they go out. That's what I like.

SPEAKER_02 29:13

I like my Thanksgiving meal to sit in my toilet afterward.

SPEAKER_01 29:18

To look back at it. Like, how much does it look like the Michelle Obama might be? We talked about like eat whatever you want, right? Calories through Thanksgiving. All I'm saying is like corn, you don't fully digest it. You could eat, you can eat like all the corn. It just goes right back out. You can only get a few calories. You're sacked.

SPEAKER_02 29:33

William Leighton all corn diet.

SPEAKER_01 29:36

I'm gonna come up with an all-corn diet. Listen, if fucking keto and salve and all this stuff can work, the all-corn diet. I'm gonna I I think I have to lean into the American ism this of it because it's like you know, corn. The cleanse?

SPEAKER_00 29:52

No, that's a corn cleanse, like a celery cleanse.

SPEAKER_01 29:54

Like clean no, I I think the the the stuffed or the or the kerneled. The corned, the corn kerneled. There's I don't know. I think I think the all-corn diet, just saying, I think it would go pretty well.

Moose, DeLorean, And Fryers

SPEAKER_02 30:10

Okay, so a corn-only diet results in severe protein deficiency, muscle loss, and fatigue, uh, very low fat intake, so we're gonna deal with some hormones deficiencies.

SPEAKER_01 30:22

I'm not saying it's perfect. There might be a few issues, but it'd be very tasty.

SPEAKER_00 30:28

It could be profitable.

SPEAKER_01 30:29

It could be profitable. Fine. I guess it's yeah, we might need some might be protein. Protein deficient a little bit. You got lots of fiber.

SPEAKER_02 30:41

How long would it take of just say you could survive this? How long would it take of just eating corn for your poop to just be corn?

SPEAKER_01 30:49

At least three and a half weeks.

SPEAKER_02 30:52

Where like you you shit and it just sounds like a baby knocking around in a can of paint.

SPEAKER_00 30:57

Pretty sure the turnover would be about three to four days.

SPEAKER_02 31:00

Mythbusters, where are you at?

SPEAKER_01 31:03

That's when they come back, they're gonna do the all corn diet. They're testing that.

SPEAKER_02 31:07

Perfect. Did you have the Mythbusters up there, or do they have to translate it for Canada? Like the fib testers or something?

SPEAKER_00 31:16

Oh, they had to they had to translate it. So you know. Welcome to Mythbusters, eh? Just threw in accents. Oh, today we're going uh bust this myth about uh corn in your diet.

SPEAKER_01 31:31

Moose is moosers, mooses.

SPEAKER_02 31:34

Do do moose taste good? Have you had one?

SPEAKER_01 31:38

Forget turkey.

SPEAKER_02 31:40

Yes, I have.

SPEAKER_01 31:41

Forget turkey. Canadians have the moose on the table. I think we should go back to the code.

SPEAKER_02 31:46

I feel like that's twice this month I've been asked that question.

SPEAKER_00 31:49

Does it feel like a slide against your people? Is it offensive? No, it's it's something we hunt up here because it's common.

SPEAKER_01 31:59

All right.

SPEAKER_02 32:00

How does it compare to turkey?

SPEAKER_00 32:02

Is it is it uh you guys would probably like it better than turkey.

SPEAKER_01 32:06

Okay. It's a low bar, so I'll probably say you're right.

SPEAKER_00 32:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:10

I would only eat moose that I hunt with my car. I'd run it down. I think that the the moose might be.

SPEAKER_00 32:17

I'm pretty sure the moose wins.

SPEAKER_02 32:18

They're hefty, they're like 18 feet tall. They go through a lot of cars. They've got a gravitational pull.

SPEAKER_00 32:25

There's a reason I drive a truck, it's so that if I run into a moose, I am not going to die. Fair.

SPEAKER_02 32:32

Now, how are we gonna drop a moose into a uh deep fryer? That's the problem.

SPEAKER_00 32:37

You need a very big deep fryer.

SPEAKER_02 32:38

That's good.

SPEAKER_00 32:39

We'd have to convert like a jacuzzi.

SPEAKER_01 32:42

Jacuzzi fryer where like the jets are still on and it's just throwing the fucking oil everywhere. Yeah. That could burn down a town. Then afterwards, you lower the temperature down and hop in. There you go. Get it down to like a hundred.

SPEAKER_00 32:56

Get all that oil on your skin. It's very sticky. Nice, smooth.

SPEAKER_02 33:00

You'd have to airlift a 2300-pound animal with a helicopter into this thing. I don't know. It's not impossible.

SPEAKER_01 33:07

You know what I mean? You know what car I would use to hunt moose?

SPEAKER_02 33:12

Would it be made of just like weak brushed aluminum by chance? It would crumble like a soda can under a it might.

SPEAKER_01 33:22

It might. It might rhyme with Ballorean.

SPEAKER_02 33:25

What would happen is you drive towards the moose and the car would split in half and keep going. The moose would just be standing there.

SPEAKER_00 33:33

The moose would just give it a stare and it would fall apart.

SPEAKER_01 33:36

I think I would go back in time before it hit it. I think that's how it works.

SPEAKER_02 33:40

You know when a cartoon character runs through a wall and you see their silhouette as a hole in the wall? That's what the DeLorean would look like afterwards. Just a moose.

SPEAKER_01 33:50

Welcome to Inmoderation, where we give you a few tips, few tips on food, and the rest of the time we talk about DeLoreans and how long it would take to turn your poop corn.

SPEAKER_02 33:59

It's gotten to the point where people are asking me about the DeLorean now, which tells me two things. One, they're hearing a lot about the DeLoreans, and two, they know me from inmoderation.

SPEAKER_01 34:10

I love it. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 34:12

What an interesting timeline this DeLorean has brought us on. It's so good. You don't have to burn all of the calories you consume.

SPEAKER_01 34:21

You do not. Your body to not die.

SPEAKER_02 34:24

Yeah. So if you're going to be like, hey, the next day I have to work out super hard, or for the whole next week, I have to try to burn everything off that I had. Not how it works.

SPEAKER_01 34:35

Not how it works. Not how it works. We're all gonna be mad at you if you do that. And we're all gonna be mad at you, yes.

SPEAKER_00 34:41

Yeah, specifically you, Justin.

SPEAKER_01 34:44

Fucking Justin. Always out there burning off Thanksgiving calories. Justin, you're a go-getter, but come on, man.

SPEAKER_02 34:51

Take it easy.

Group Coaching, Mindset Work

SPEAKER_00 34:52

You know what else is a good idea if you want to get help around the holidays? What's that? Join Mike's group coaching. Shameless. He has no idea I was gonna talk about this. But the so the other week when I was in Texas, I was out there for Mike's group coaching's first ever meetup.

SPEAKER_02 35:12

Oh, I'm Mike needs a plan, by the way. I have not introduced myself. But yes, uh, we we flew Rob down because we needed him there.

SPEAKER_00 35:20

He's part of the family. Need is a strong word. Um not necessarily the right word, but but um I mean I said no, no, I got to see him doing his coaching, but we just roll with it. I got to see him doing his coaching in person with a bunch of his clients, and you know, there's there's a lot of um weight loss stuff that revolves around count your calories and do more exercise and stuff, and then you have this man in front of a room of people who are like sobbing their eyes out because they're coming to terms with all this mental anguish that they've had surrounding food, surrounding all these things. And we need more of that. It was because there's a lot that goes on there.

SPEAKER_02 36:09

We need more such a lovely experience. It was um it just really, really fantastic. Like we we joke a lot here and we we joke in the group too, but it you know, we're addressing not just the fat, but the reasons it's there, and a lot of the reasons it's there is up here. It's the brain, it's the mind. You can take a neck down approach to weight loss and end up thinner and sadder, or thinner and exactly the same sad that you were when you started. The only thing that has kept me at my weight that I am now for as long as I have effortlessly is working on all the stuff that made me fat before. And it wasn't just the diet, it was the reason the diet was so bad. It wasn't the exercise, it was the reason that I wasn't. It's so um, yeah. Absolutely. You know what I'm addressing? Oh, yeah, please.

SPEAKER_01 37:03

These chips, fucking all dress are so good. Heck yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:08

All dress chips. I just let me give a quick shout out to everyone that was there: Smitty, Cassandra, Tracy, Mandy, Sarah, Amanda, Jennifer, and obviously you, Rob. I it all you guys were just fantastic, and I I had a wonderful time with you guys there, and I I can't wait to uh to do more. Sounds really nice.

SPEAKER_00 37:31

And we're doing a drag Liam to the next one.

SPEAKER_02 37:33

I'll go. Oh, for sure. School.com S K-O-O-L.com slash plan if you want to chat about it. But yeah, no, Liam, we need you at at the next one.

SPEAKER_01 37:45

For sure. Where where we have it? The base of a volcano, or like in there's workings of a lot of.

SPEAKER_00 37:51

I don't know if the plan was Colorado next and then Canada, the one after that.

Next Meetups And Closing Bits

SPEAKER_01 37:56

Oh, do call I've never been to Colorado. I want to go. That's yeah, I think that is where we're going next, right? That sounds I'm gonna go to Boulder, right? That's a place in Colorado. They got like um That's a place or like rock climbing, I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_00 38:12

Oh, I freaking love hiking and rock climbing at the same time.

SPEAKER_01 38:16

Exactly. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 38:17

No, no, really. I'll go out hiking and there'll be a sheer wall and I'll just be like, fuck it, I'm up. Let's combine some safe activities together.

SPEAKER_02 38:24

Yeah, it's I I I think Colorado's gonna be our next stop, unless somebody's got a better idea out there. But uh, that's definitely better than Texas. That's for sure. We don't want to do the next one in Texas.

SPEAKER_00 38:37

So if you're out there and you are looking for help on the mental side of things, um, having seen Mike behind the scenes and well, not even behind the scenes, in the scenes. In the scenes. In the scenes, highly recommend.

SPEAKER_02 38:51

Well, thank you, my friend.

SPEAKER_00 38:52

We um what I recommend? And then you'll get to meet us all up at the next meetup.

SPEAKER_01 38:56

You know what I recommend? Buying a DeLorean, eating just corn, and these all dressed chips. That's what I recommend.

SPEAKER_00 39:02

Eating all dressed chips in a DeLorean.

SPEAKER_01 39:04

I don't know DeLorean and pooping corn.