From Dry Chicken To Smart Bulking: A Coach’s Playbook For Eating More And Growing Better

What if the real bulking battle isn’t in the gym but on your plate? We sit down with Quincy, a straight-talking bodybuilding coach, to tackle the one problem almost no one expects when they decide to “get big”: actually finishing the food. From dry chicken horror stories to smart cooking tweaks that make every bite easier, we get practical about palatability, moisture, and flavor so your meals help you grow instead of stopping you cold.

Quincy lays out a simple framework to expand appetite without wrecking your day. We rethink meal timing by moving the heaviest, highest fiber dish to night, front-loading lighter meals, and spacing feedings so you don’t fall behind. We talk through macro traps—like pushing protein so high you kill hunger—and explain how carbs and fats support gym performance and make eating feel doable. You’ll hear why “boy kibble” (rice and beef) can be economical and macro-friendly but micronutrient-poor, and how sauces, air fryers, and better reheating turn “drywall” into dinner.

On training, we make a compelling case for low-volume, high-intent work: fewer sets, tighter form, targeted pauses, and real intensity. Mike shares how 50 focused minutes left him more sore and satisfied than his old marathon sessions. Quincy contrasts flexible dieting with whole-food meal plans for hypertrophy, noting digestion, micronutrients, and performance as the deciding factors. We set clear expectations for progress—think one to two pounds of lean tissue per month early on, not miracle jumps—and touch on peptides and shortcuts with caution, humor, and a reminder to prioritize health.

If you’ve ever thought, “I just can’t get the food down,” this conversation gives you a plan: cook tastier, time smarter, train tighter, and be patient enough to let consistent habits add up. Subscribe, share with a friend who’s bulking, and leave a review with the one habit you’re changing this week.

Transcript

Cold Open Chaos And Banter

SPEAKER_06 0:18

Freaks who still have a thing for crushing food on themselves. There's no way to put context behind the first five seconds of this podcast. So no, there's a supposed we'll just have to cut that out and introduce uh welcome to Inmoderation, the show where we give you a moderate dose of info. Sarcasm, and you already know we're not approved.

SPEAKER_02 0:38

I'm glad to be wow. A little early for that. Save that for later, Rob.

SPEAKER_06 0:45

I was about to say, I'm glad to be the end of the mature man of this podcast. Let's make some Johnny Carson.

SPEAKER_03 0:53

Put it away. Okay. I want to.

SPEAKER_02 0:56

Love these cookies. It's the perfect ripeness too. Oh, it's the best. Anyway, how are you guys doing?

SPEAKER_03 1:01

Doing all right. I'm tired. I'll take a nap while you guys do this one.

SPEAKER_02 1:04

I will tell you, um, just drinking nothing but coffee and having half a banana, it helps. It helps me I get for energy. I, you know, my sleep isn't great with a toddler, but like lots of drugs, and I'm pretty much good to go. Speaking of drugs, Mike, so I've heard weed. Well, that's the that one too, but I thought we were getting we were gonna get into something else today.

SPEAKER_06 1:31

The the performance enhancing, I I did not expect that the performance-enhancing drug I'd be using uh at this point in my career would be weed, but it is right now. And here to explain is my it's my lawyer.

SPEAKER_00 1:44

He's my lawyer.

SPEAKER_06 1:46

He's uh a good buddy of mine, and now my coach um who has been given the explicit instructions to give me my 110 pounds back on my terms, uh, because I have decided I want to get as jacked as possible.

SPEAKER_03 1:58

And those terms are 110 pounds of weed.

SPEAKER_06 2:02

Yes, I have to that'd be a lot of weed. You'd have to have like a storage.

SPEAKER_03 2:08

Grow ups.

SPEAKER_01 2:09

I uh I live pretty close to the border, so the Canadian border.

SPEAKER_03 2:14

I live over the border, so oh we'll just go to rock.

SPEAKER_02 2:16

Yeah, which border? Those there's a couple, there are there's big differences in which border you're near. There are no borders.

SPEAKER_06 2:22

But okay, so it is a second-degree felony to have 110 pounds of weed.

SPEAKER_02 2:29

That might be intent to sell. I don't know for certain, but I think that there's a chance you might get intent to sell with over a hundred pounds of marijuana. I just don't know. It's all for me. It's medical, though. It's medical, it's all for me.

SPEAKER_06 2:42

Yeah, the the only way to disprove it would be like, okay, Your Honor, if you would allow me to smoke 110 pounds of weed in front of you to show you that it's have you seen some of those eating videos where they just eat like pounds and pounds of food?

SPEAKER_02 2:57

I mean, yeah, it's basically the same.

Meet Quincy: Bodybuilding Coach

SPEAKER_06 3:01

Let's let's for the for the sake of our listener's sanity. Quincy, hello. You want to introduce yourself and talk about what you do?

SPEAKER_01 3:09

Hello, internet. I am Quincy. I'm a bodybuilding and fitness coach. My help people get big and strong, sometimes lose a little body fat, get shredded, step on stage, that kind of stuff. I give people drugs. That that's about it.

Why Eating Enough Is Hard

SPEAKER_06 3:23

For legal purposes, that is a joke. That is a joke. And he's not giving me any drugs. He's not provided any any substances to me. The weed that I have is legal. Um, and the reason I need it is because to build muscle, you need to eat a lot of food.

SPEAKER_02 3:39

Oh, you need the munchies. You'd need uh you need um uh whatchall, what three doses of the munchies, stat or whatever, you know?

SPEAKER_06 3:47

Yes. And the thing is, see, I made a mistake a few years ago. I made a really big mistake. I made the silly error of fixing my eating disorder, right? Silly me. How dumb? Silly you're coming. Yeah, that I I I fixed my my problem. Yeah, because I'm I'm looking at all the food that I need to eat, and I'm thinking to myself, old Mike would have housed this no problem and asked for seconds. I'm over here. So I used to be so good at this.

SPEAKER_01 4:11

My job is to give Mike his eating disorder back, is is the plan.

SPEAKER_02 4:16

How on a scale of one to ten, when you give people eating disorders, how difficult would you say it is? Ten being like, it's so hard, but I really have to work the you know extra hard to give them the eating disorder. One, like, oh no, very easy.

SPEAKER_01 4:29

Well, see, on a on a real note, if we are eating exclusively Whole Foods, that eating disorder is very hard to develop. Now, if I say, Mike, go eat three Domino's pizzas and a couple boxes of Krispy Kreme, I'd I'd give it a real easy.

SPEAKER_03 4:44

No, no, they're Papa John's and they're rolled up.

SPEAKER_06 4:47

I used to do that, Quincy. I used to uh I'd get a large meat lovers pizza from Papa John's. I would tell them not to slice it. And then at a certain point, once it like the cheese cooled, you could roll it up like a diaper full of meat and cheese and just eat it long ways. And that's that's where I came from.

SPEAKER_02 5:07

So I'm so so the wheat now is like helping. Is it working? Is it giving you the munchies and you're eating more?

Dry Food, Palatability, And Prep Fixes

SPEAKER_06 5:12

It's not helping as much as I was hoping. Well, what are you doing?

SPEAKER_02 5:17

What are you doing to force feed yourself? What what's what's going on?

SPEAKER_06 5:21

I that's one of the things that I wanted to admit to my coach here on uh live with backup. Um, I am struggling to get all of the food that I need. And I I figured this would be an interesting opportunity to maybe talk to some of the people out there who are listening who might be struggling with their appetite because I hear about that. This is very common.

SPEAKER_02 5:43

Yeah, this is really common. Like I get people asking a lot, like, I just can't get the food down. What the fuck do I do? Um, just like for me, I I'm in the camp of like, oh, make something that you can put oil in, like, I don't know, like olive oil, you drench it in that, that just makes it easier. Like, I I it that's a tough one.

SPEAKER_06 6:01

Yeah, it's you know, it's been a big I'm I've my whole diet is different now. The amount I'm eating is is much larger. And uh Quincy understands, like uh you had said it a few days ago, like it's gonna take a little bit to get into this and used to it. Day one is not gonna be. Yeah, no, it's it's hard. What would you recommend on all this?

SPEAKER_01 6:21

So I grew up anorexic, right? Um, so I used to be very bad at eating food. I would eat like three like chips and I'd be full. Um it's it's a lot of repetition to uh kind of just adjust your stomach. Eventually your stomach will expand again. Um it was expanded in the past, but no longer. So you gotta expand it uh nice and slowly over time. Another thing is how you cook your food, right? So we could even go over each one of your meals and I could tell you a way to cook it different. That'll be easier to eat. Um, we already discussed like your meals as dry as possible. Yeah, yeah, no, you don't want that shit. That will ruin you. I actually got my chicken right here. See that? She's a little a little dry.

SPEAKER_02 7:07

I was gonna ask you, what's your stance on uh the whole? What's your stance on the whole boy kibble thing? Uh underrated, overrated, or equally rated?

SPEAKER_01 7:16

Are we we talking uh jasmine rice and ground beef?

SPEAKER_02 7:21

Yeah, it's just rice and beef, and that's usually pretty much it. Maybe there's some seasoning in there, probably not.

SPEAKER_01 7:28

From a economical standpoint, awesome. Macro standpoint, awesome. Um, from a micro standpoint, you're not really getting many vitamins or minerals if you're just eating rice and beef.

SPEAKER_02 7:43

Fiber.

Boy Kibble Debate And Micronutrients

SPEAKER_01 7:44

And at least in my case, probably go under yeah, fiber, no fiber. Um, you don't need fiber, right? That's bad. Go carnivore. But you know, um, in my personal experience, I can't really do the the boy kibble. Um ground beef is just too dry for me, tastes like shit to me. You want your food to be palatable.

SPEAKER_02 8:05

So you get like the 93 lean.

SPEAKER_01 8:08

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 8:08

Like, oh, yeah, 93 lean. I'm like, oh Jesus. And then what? Like just have it as a soup? I don't know, but water.

SPEAKER_01 8:14

Like, what am I doing? You're choking your food down. So yeah, you wanna terrible.

SPEAKER_03 8:19

If you put it in the soup, it'll just suck all the water up. It's so lean.

SPEAKER_01 8:22

If your food isn't palatable, if it's dry, any of that stuff is gonna, you know, you're gonna be shooting yourself in the foot. What I have done for myself, I have found a very specific way to cook each one of my meals that I enjoy, and I do not change it. I eat the same seven meals a day, season the same way, cook the same way. Um I also do not, because I am privileged enough to be able to cook each one of my meals fresh. I cook them fresh. Because you know, you put them in the fridge, preheat them, then they're dry, they don't taste the same. Getting around that problem, you can add a little water into your meal prep. They'll kind of steam it and uh make it moist again. But I'd say, yeah, the biggest thing is just make your food as palatable as you can. Test different ways to cook them, especially your more satiating food.

SPEAKER_02 9:11

Yeah, do you have any suggestions for like things to add, you know, in terms of just making it a little bit easier?

SPEAKER_01 9:17

Sugar-free sauces, use an air fryer, um, keep an eye on your food. That's why people struggle. They don't keep an eye on their food, they overcook it. And then it's like eating drywall, which we've all done once or twice, but I'm not.

SPEAKER_02 9:32

That's what fat-free cheese tastes like to me. It's just it's like tastes like drywall and card. Have you ever noticed it don't? It's so bad. People try and like lie to me. It oh, no, no, no. It melts if you wash it first. People are like, you gotta wash your cheese. I'm like, where am I? How far have I gone that I'm washing my cheese? Too far. I've gone too far. Stop. Don't wash, don't tell me to wash my cheese. Don't tell, I'm not gonna do it.

SPEAKER_01 9:58

Oh, dude, that's nasty. I didn't I don't think it could melt. It's terrible. I've been trying to make like it's a good thing.

SPEAKER_02 10:04

Because it's got the coating on it. So, like, you gotta get that off by washing it.

SPEAKER_01 10:07

That's disgusting. Like wet cheese.

SPEAKER_02 10:09

But yeah, I like air fryer and like sauces, like the lower calorie sauces. Like, you know, back if I was trying to lose weight, like I always like the mustards and shit like that that you know are generally lower calories, makes it a little bit easier. Like out sorts of buffalo sauce, yada yada yada.

SPEAKER_03 10:23

And let's not forget the spice of life, paprika.

Sauces, Air Fryers, And Not Washing Cheese

SPEAKER_02 10:27

Yeah, just throw a bunch of paprika on there, it'd be fun. Get it smoked if you're fancy.

SPEAKER_06 10:31

Ooh, smoked paprika. Uh now you're gonna shout out our uh our anti-sponsor, Walden Farms. How do you feel about Walden Farms, Quincy? I do not know Walden Farms. Good, don't it's it's like it's all zero calorie.

SPEAKER_02 10:48

It's all zero calories.

SPEAKER_06 10:48

Yeah, they make a bunch of zero calorie sauces and and dips and stuff, but it's uh it's like they put a little bit of like salt into battery acid and made it kind of look like ranch.

SPEAKER_01 11:00

That's good.

SPEAKER_06 11:02

If Walden Farms wants us to stop talking about them, they need to pay us.

SPEAKER_02 11:05

Back when I mean, like when I got really into like dieting and bulking and cutting and stuff like that, my meal was literally I would just uh cook chicken breasts, and because I can't cook them, I would just put them in the oven for four hours and just until they were nothing but pups, and then they were super dry. So then I would just eat it with mustard, and that's all I'd do cold. I would like I'd put it in the fridge and I take it out and like just no with my hands too. Like I wouldn't, like, yeah, fridge chicken. I wouldn't take a fork or anything. I would literally just take my hands, take it out, and dip it into mustard and eat it. And that was that would like be a meal.

SPEAKER_03 11:38

And now your job is doing recipe videos.

SPEAKER_02 11:40

And that it's a lot, my diet's better than that. I'll tell you that much right now. How much like on a scale of one to ten? What do you give uh mustard fridge chicken? Hand mustard fridge chicken.

SPEAKER_06 11:50

Zero. Mustard. Wow. Okay, so it's the mustard that does it. It's the mustard.

SPEAKER_04 11:55

That's the problem.

SPEAKER_06 11:56

I certainly how do you feel about honey mustard? Because I don't really like mustard in itself, but honey mustard I can get down with.

SPEAKER_01 12:03

See, that's where they trick you, though, because then it's a ton of sugar in it. And sugar is evil, right, guys? Okay. Of course.

SPEAKER_06 12:11

There's two different types of honey mustard at the store. You can get them in like 120 calories per serving or like 15 calories per serving.

SPEAKER_02 12:18

And I don't know how much honey they'd be adding or if they add artificial sweeteners.

SPEAKER_06 12:22

You gotta be real careful. You look on the the shelves. I I've not really been able to tell that big of a difference between the two of them. I was gonna bottle in that.

Meal Timing And Moving The Heavy Meal

SPEAKER_02 12:28

Okay, so air fryer, like yeah, like watch your food, make sure you don't overcook it, add sauces, like those, those kind of like the three.

SPEAKER_01 12:35

Um, well, there's definitely more. Mike, tell me, and this'll this will help us get into what I'm gonna say next. How frequently are you eating meals thus far?

SPEAKER_06 12:45

Not frequently enough. I am not yet on my second meal of the day, and it is 2 28 p.m. I know how dire the situation is, as I have four left. And what time did you wake up? I woke up at nine o'clock. Nine o'clock. So yeah, you're a little behind. I'm so full right now. Like I am, yeah, I'm very like hunger regulated, right? Like if left to my own devices, I will stay at this weight for the rest of my life without having to pay attention to it. That's super cool after a lifetime of gripping the steering wheel to keep my weight where it was. But now that I want to change it, I have to break out of that. And it's I I'm I'm looking at the clock, I'm looking at work going by, and I'm like, I this is this is uh I I've got goals to meet here, and I don't know if I'm gonna meet them. What do you tell somebody early on in the journey like this who's struggling?

SPEAKER_01 13:40

Take your time, take your time, um, eat your meals fast. That'll trick your brain. It won't feel as full. Um, this is gonna sound backwards. Don't drink too much water with your meal. Especially your first meal has oats in it, correct? Yes, yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 13:59

Five eggs. Yeah, it's a very filling meal. Plus uh yeah, blueberries and and honey. Like it's it's all very good, and you've left me to do whatever I want with the spices and everything. But yeah, it's it's just like it's a high volume of very satiating food. Yeah. Uh, for those out there who are trying to lose weight, um this is something that could be beneficial to you. Have a very satiating and protein-rich and good, healthy fats in in your uh breakfast. That's what it kind of seems like.

SPEAKER_02 14:27

You just do the opposite of what it takes, we talk about all the time, where it's like make sure you drink plenty of water, you know, slow down. It's like just take all of those things and if you throw it in reverse, I should say, and then you're good. That's true.

Protein Targets Vs Hyperpalatability

SPEAKER_01 14:38

That's fine. I would say too, Mr. Mike, um you feel free and try this tomorrow. Tomorrow, try and take that first meal, put it at the end of your day. Okay. Um, and what's that what that's gonna do? That is your highest fiber meal, and you know, you don't even have that much that many oats um yet. But take that meal, put it at the end of your day. We're gonna do it. Start oh mic, you don't want to see what my food looks like.

SPEAKER_06 15:04

Yeah, I know you're on like 5,000 calories.

SPEAKER_01 15:07

Yeah, you just gotta you gotta play with your food, right? Um take that food, put it at the end of the day if it fills you that much. Um, your second, third, and fourth meals should be a lot less filling. Um, so maybe run those first. Um that way you're on a lighter stomach until the end of the day. If there's a meal you notice that feels super heavy, just move it down in your day. Right. I think it's pretty important to get fiber in your diet pretty early in the day. But sometimes for the sake of pushing the pushing it a little bit, you know, you've got to move things around and you'll still get that fiber in. But you know, if you eat one meal and you're stuff for the rest of the day, then you're not gonna accomplish your goal.

SPEAKER_06 15:51

Something else I hear from people sometimes who are struggling to get in enough food, and I ask them about like what they're eating and what their macros end up being, and they're like, Oh yeah, I'm I'm trying to get 200 grams of protein every day. And this is a person who's like not active uh enough or like building muscle in a way that's they need 200 grams of protein. So it's like, yeah, of course you are struggling to eat because it's your body is trying to break down the hardest macronutrient to break down at all the time, and a lot of it. It's very satiating, it's very filling.

SPEAKER_02 16:21

Like I said, yeah, put everything in reverse carbs and fats, carbs and fats. That's the that's the key to making things hyperpalatable, delicious, and you eat lots of them.

SPEAKER_03 16:30

That's it. If you're putting all your fiber at the end of the day, book yourself an hour in the morning for that big old bathroom time.

SPEAKER_06 16:38

Take notes. That's my enema time anyway.

If It Fits Your Macros Limitations

SPEAKER_02 16:40

So I'm kind of curious your thoughts on like if it fits my macros. How like I mean, it could that could work. Like, how much does that work for Mike? Where you're just like, yeah, let me see. Okay, I've got uh Doritos and some cottage cheese. Like, as long as it fits my macros, I'm good.

SPEAKER_01 16:54

So this is where I'm gonna say no if your goal is to really pack on muscle. Um, I've tried every strategy in the book. I could send you side-by-side pictures of me doing if it fits the macros, and then doing you know, a more strict whole foods meal plan. And there is no changes other than switching a meal plan, right? And there is a 30-pound difference in tissue. And like I didn't switch gear, I didn't switch training, I didn't change sleep around or anything. Um Whole Foods work tremendously better if you actually want to put on muscle. Um, a lot of that could be when people do if it's the macros, they usually overshoe on their fats, they don't really pay attention to that. Um, they'll just you know they'll fit and eat junk food all day, that's not really fueling you. And the point of, you know, say your carbohydrates in a plant, when those get upped, it's to push your performance in the gym. When you're sitting and eating Doritos on your couch at midnight, that's not really going into your workout, into your training or into your recovery. Um, another thing is digestion. Um you know, you sit and eat junk food all day, that is not gonna digest as well as whole foods, and so you're not getting the the proper nutrient partitioning. Um it's it's just gonna be my thing.

SPEAKER_02 18:22

It's like you're probably missing some like vitamins, minerals, shit like that, and then your body's like struggling because you're just yeah, eating you know ultra-processed foods. So I'm sure there's like room for it, but like if you're doing like 95% just like ultra-processed foods, like I'm just eating protein bars and you know, chips and shit like that. Probably not the most ideal.

SPEAKER_01 18:41

You you will see people that like it just works for them anyway. Uh not everyone has the genetics. Right.

SPEAKER_02 18:47

There's yeah, there's always people.

Genetics, Balance, And Specific Goals

SPEAKER_01 18:49

You'll meet a construction worker who works 23 hours a day, shoves protein bars in his mouth all day, then goes and gets uh three or four double bacon cheeseburgers from five guys, and he's just built like a gorilla. Not not everyone's gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_04 19:06

Genetics.

SPEAKER_01 19:07

Genetics. And decently far.

SPEAKER_06 19:10

Like I'm I I've gotten into very good shape having and I you know, I eat well enough, but I think any dietitian would probably give me like a C plus, B minus ish. And you know, I I've I've done well for myself, I've put muscle on, but I I recognize there's like there's a threshold that I I wanted to break through, and I I have to get a little bit more specific. I I can live a well-balanced, healthy life as I am now, but I've just I've got different goals and I want to get more meticulous about it. That's that's not for everybody. Yeah. And you know I want to I want to try just to push it.

SPEAKER_01 19:45

Being more flexible for the average person who's not really trying to push push it. That's awesome. When it comes to if you're trying to get more serious into it, you've got to make the sacrifices a little bit. And like you said, that's definitely not for everyone. Um I'll have people come to me and they're like, I want to do a bodybuilding show, but they hate training, they hate eating whole foods, they hate everything you need to do to do bodybuilding. Or, you know, just pack on a lot of muscle. And you gotta turn people down sometimes because they they can go live a more balanced life, uh more uh a life with more moderation, as some would say, and that's great for them, but some people's minds just can't handle eating whole foods, which to me is crazy because I mean that's real food. And she she's gonna be a little bit more than a lot of things.

SPEAKER_03 20:40

How much trend do I need to do? Screw screw screw the training, screw everything else.

SPEAKER_02 20:47

I will say about obtaining illegal drugs.

Jokes On Steroids And Gym Culture

SPEAKER_01 20:51

Well, so you'll walk up to the biggest dude at your gym. Um, the first thing you're gonna do is not ask him, Are you on steroids? What are you on? Where do you get your stuff? No, no, no, that's not how you do it. You walk up to him, you say, What's your name, man? You look awesome.

SPEAKER_03 21:09

Say that he has pretty eyes.

SPEAKER_01 21:10

Exactly. Compliment his eyes. Like in prison.

SPEAKER_02 21:13

No? I thought that was like the biggest guy. I thought that was the point.

SPEAKER_01 21:17

And then you become the biggest guy. You can punch him, but he's gonna start crying because we're all softies deep down. But you're gonna compliment his eyes, you're gonna shake his hand. Next time you go to the gym, you're just gonna say hi to him. You're gonna ask him how he's doing, you're gonna do that for a couple weeks, and then you're gonna fire the question. Hey man, so I've been looking to uh step into the unnatural side of things. Do you have any advice on that? Maybe where to get it?

SPEAKER_07 21:44

And he'll be like, Yeah, bro, I got you. I've got a I've got a bunch of stuff in my car right now. What do you what do you want? Oh, you want Trend?

SPEAKER_02 21:52

I was thinking. Right. I was thinking No, no, no. You watch him, you watch what locker he puts it in, and then you just go inject yourself with whatever was in that bag because it's clearly working with for him. So therefore, it will work for you. I think, listen, we can laugh, but I think this plan actually worked pretty well. I mean, your health might be slightly at risk, but you know, so is driving. So is, you know, anything. Thing, right?

SPEAKER_06 22:19

Give it six months. The inmoderation boys are all gonna come in here 300 pounds lean. Liam's shooting too many ideas.

SPEAKER_02 22:25

I also got some bloodborne disease because injecting myself with random needles.

SPEAKER_06 22:29

Horrendous acne everywhere.

Appetite Peptides And Cautions

SPEAKER_01 22:32

Old needles sitting heavy on the mic. Oh yeah. Then hand you a little vial full of water because he thinks you're stupid for asking for gear, is what will happen. Oh shit. But yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:46

So Mike, how long do you do this before you give up and then go to the drugs? That's my question. Because obviously you can't do this forever. When you get frustrated, you're gonna go to the drugs. So how long does that take, do you think, roughly?

SPEAKER_06 22:56

I'm scheduled for March 14th.

SPEAKER_02 22:58

Oh, so not long.

unknown 23:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:01

Not long at all.

SPEAKER_06 23:02

We've got about a week and a half, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:03

Damn. Ten days. On the side of drugs, Mike's biggest problem so far is obviously getting the food down. There are less harmful drugs to try before going straight to steroids, especially if the issue is getting food down. What are they? I need them. Tesla and hypomoralin are a great peptide. Um what they do is release natural growth hormone. And most people take it at night before bed, but if you take it in the morning, you will feel like there is a bottomless pit in your stomach for about 30 minutes. And that's when you just go crazy for that 30 minutes.

SPEAKER_06 23:42

So is this something that the FDA has approved, or not the FDA? Who approves drugs?

SPEAKER_03 23:48

Hasn't your FDA just uh blanket approved peptides at this point? Have they? No, that was raw, but I mean also I'm pretty sure they were like looking at uh approving peptides.

SPEAKER_06 24:00

So they want to as of right now it's all because you know that's a whole speculative with the peptides. We we don't have like the official confirmation on everything. There are people that report good things and bad things.

SPEAKER_03 24:12

Um it's always important to talk to your doctor. RFK Jr. on Joe Rogan said the FDA FDA will soon make about 14 peptides legal. Okay. How many are there?

Training Less, Focusing More

SPEAKER_06 24:26

There are fucking log. There's 15 peptides. They're keeping one off the market. And that's the really good one. That's the one that makes your wife come back with the kids. Rob's got his research face on right now. For those that want to see Rob deep in thought, go on over to our YouTube channel in moderation on youtube.com, and you can watch Rob staring blankly at a computer screen.

SPEAKER_02 24:51

Yeah, he's doing good. Riveting stuff.

SPEAKER_03 24:53

So apparently, yeah. Apparently during Joe Biden's term, he reclassified 19 peptides into being unsafe, and RFK wants to reverse that and make them accessible. Oh, that makes me nervous.

SPEAKER_02 25:08

What about roads? Making a comeback, or are we still saying macros on possible? Are we still saying oopsie daisy on that?

SPEAKER_05 25:17

I missed that. What are we sorry? I was in our legal department.

SPEAKER_02 25:21

Okay, so yeah, so that's just kind of the main issue now is is pushing the food. Anything else you got going on with the with with everything else is going pretty well?

SPEAKER_06 25:30

So I will say here, this is maybe something that uh some people out there who are overtraining, um, like I suspected that I was, uh, might be dealing with. Because you would think pulling back on the workouts is gonna be counterintuitive. That if I'm doing less workouts, I'm doing less movements, it's gonna be worse for me. Uh and when Quincy gave me my workout routine, I was looking at it and I'm like, hmm, there's not a ton of movements on here. It's definitely less work than I was doing before. Um, but there's a a couple of important changes here. Um I I'm being very intentional about the amount of reps and the amount of work that I'm doing. He's got a whole long thing about like, here's what I want you to focus on at different parts of the movement. I want you to pause here when you're down near your chest and push almost all the way up, but stop. You don't want to lock out at the top because you'll lose tension on your pecs. And with all of that in my mind, I'm I'm doing harder work with less time in the gym. I was in and out of the gym last night in 50 minutes. And I I'm sore today. I haven't been sore in a while. So it it reducing the amount of work but being more intentional about it is not only more efficient, but it's it seems to be more effective. And Jeff Nipper's been talking about this now for a little while now, about the lower volume. And it's it's you know, it's it's making its rounds, and I I So you're going full Mike Mencer. I'm doing one rep.

SPEAKER_02 26:58

One huge uh all-out rep, and then you leave.

SPEAKER_06 27:01

Natural, by the way.

Low Volume, High Intent Technique

SPEAKER_01 27:02

The plan is, especially when you're trying to take someone to a little bit higher of a level, um, looking at their training is the first thing you want to do. Uh, you should always start with low volume because high volume is not a bad thing. You just want to make sure you have technique down and form down and you know, intensity down before jumping to high volume. And I'm actually still waiting to receive some videos to see technique, Mike, so I can see what he is doing. But starting low volume is really good when you're trying to figure out what to do with training, what to change to make it more effective.

SPEAKER_02 27:42

Because if you have a bunch of extra volume thrown in, you're gonna focus in on what's wrong, what's right, right? Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 27:47

Right. And you have less sets, you're gonna put more focus on those sets because, well, you've only got two sets to work with, right? So you're not gonna waste them.

SPEAKER_06 27:56

Yeah, sometimes two, sometimes three, but like it's it's not just about getting the weight, and I, you know, I had that in my mind, and I I'm I'm fairly good with form more than I I suppose the average person, but seeing that detailed breakdown of like where I should be focusing my effort and when I should be stopping, it it it changed my perspective on on the whole process.

SPEAKER_02 28:19

So I'm thinking because with the food uh situation, like I definitely think it is beneficial, of course, right, to always focus on whole foods. I mean that's that's important in every situation, but I feel like for me it was always easier if I'm trying to increase the calories instead of just like changing these, like all these foods to these foods, changing it all around. I'm like, okay, these are the foods I like and I kind of eat this stuff. So let me do that and let me add in some things on top of that that are that are very low satiating, that are just kind of like easy to get down for me. Like sprinkles. I was thinking more drinking my calories, but you could also just put sprinkles on everything if that's what you wanted to do. Sprinkles on your brown.

Adding Calories Without Misery

SPEAKER_01 28:56

You know, sprinkles are like 50 calories per tablespoon or some ridiculous shit.

SPEAKER_02 29:00

So you're gonna need a lot of sprinkles.

SPEAKER_06 29:03

What kind of muscle could I build on a diet entirely of rainbow sprinkles?

SPEAKER_02 29:07

We can find out one. You could build one, one muscle.

SPEAKER_06 29:12

Do I get to choose which muscle bicep?

SPEAKER_02 29:14

Interior tibialis.

SPEAKER_06 29:18

Abductor, just one. Can't close your legs anymore. That would just, I think that's a tumor. I think we're describing tumors. Yeah. Um it's it's uh a strange mentality being here. And I I I bulked once in 2023, and it was, you know, again, I was sort of challenging myself and eating more than I wanted to eat and putting on muscle intentionally, put on fat intentionally. Uh it's it's spooky after having lived many years in a mindset and uh and a body that wanted to lose weight. But it's uh it is very necessary. Like I look back at my body in November, and it's uh I I see the the recomp and I see the difference in um now. If I look at any point in between, I I think to myself, well, I have barely made any progress at all. And I look back at November when I took my first picture of of doing this, and I'm thinking myself, okay, things are actually changing. So that's when I I reached out to uh Quincy a couple of weeks ago. So let's uh let's build a lot of things.

SPEAKER_03 30:18

That's been kind of the uh underlying thing uh in like every single conversation that has gone on today is that it takes time. And we have a lot of people that when they they want to go put on muscle and stuff, they expect results by the end of the week. And that's of course when they go in like, oh, I need all these supplements. Oh, these supplements aren't working because suppl you know, supplements are supplements. Oh, now I need drugs.

SPEAKER_02 30:44

Yeah, I see that very common with younger kids now. I feel like just because maybe they have more access to it, where they start the drugs early on, you know. It feels a lot more common now.

SPEAKER_01 30:54

Yeah, guys.

SPEAKER_03 30:54

Oh no, who would do that? So yeah, what would what would you give as Mike's like expected rate of progress?

Bulking Mindset And Patience

SPEAKER_02 31:02

Oh, I thought you were gonna ask him for like a cycle. Just like what would you give him as like a cycle, like a first cycle? What would you start him off?

SPEAKER_03 31:09

I was gonna I was gonna wait for the progress report, and then we'll be like, when do we start the cycle?

SPEAKER_02 31:13

And then what would he get if he started?

SPEAKER_01 31:16

Well, it's really hard to predict what rate someone's gonna gain because there are so many variables, so many factors. Um genetics being the biggest one. It's always genetics, that damn fucking thing. Um hypothetically, if Mike has everything locked in, I still think he has newbie games left on the table. So I can see him gaining one to two pounds of tissue per month, which for a natural person is that per month.

SPEAKER_03 31:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:46

Per month. That is it's not like you're not gonna wake up after two weeks and be Ryan Coleman, even if you're doing everything right. Um, but the thing that will set, say, Mike apart, if he does everything right for two years, he's gonna look like he ate the old Mike, but in a good way. That's what I'm looking for.

SPEAKER_06 32:06

That is exactly what I'm looking for.

SPEAKER_03 32:08

I I want to double emphasize that one to two pounds of muscle per month. There's a lot of the kids that are like, I have newbie games, I should expect like 20 to 40 pounds of muscle in a month. No. No. Yeah, never gonna happen. I mean, it'd be cool.

SPEAKER_06 32:25

I mean, I'm on physiologically speaking, it doesn't matter what you're taking, it doesn't matter what you're injecting, eating, nothing. You we just can't do it.

Realistic Muscle Gain Expectations

SPEAKER_01 32:33

Yeah. I mean, I'm on uh a few performing performance enhancing drugs right now, and I am not gaining, you know, even five pounds of muscle per month. Granted, I have been training seriously for about five years now. But it's it just doesn't happen like that, even if you jump to steroids. Um what you will see if you are a natural just starting out, and your first instinct is to do steroids, um, once again, also depends on genetics, but what you usually see is you watch this teenage boy, because it's always a teenage boy, uh, get really fat and bloated, and they've got high blood pressure all of a sudden, and then they go to the doctor, and the doc because their mom's like, What why do you look like this? What's wrong with you? Yeah, their blood's taken, their HDL is at like 10, their LDL is at like 180, and the doctor's like, Holy shit, what did this kid do? And then he dies. So that's what happens.

SPEAKER_06 33:31

So it's not you just put the needle in and suddenly everything's better.

SPEAKER_01 33:35

It's not a magic pill. Actually, am I giving you the Dr. Mike physical?

SPEAKER_02 33:40

Like, that's really good. Because that way you don't have to inject things, right? You can just take pills. I'm not thinking I want to inject things, so then I just want to let my liver handle it. What would you recommend?

SPEAKER_01 33:49

Well, I was gonna say, yeah, it's way better to just like fry your liver for like a tenth of the results the steroids would have given you. That's that's my favorite.

SPEAKER_06 33:58

This is like spice compared to weed, like salvia, which for those that don't know, it was this awful hallucinogenic thing that a lot of kids were getting from gas stations in like what 2010. Yeah, because it was briefly legal because the government can't make everything illegal, they have to find it first. And then I think it was like a lot of people.

SPEAKER_02 34:18

I remember watching something on that because they would make something illegal, but they could just go and tweak it a little bit. They've just changed one, you know, a couple of atoms rules or something, move an atom, and they're like, Yeah, it's a different thing. And now they have to go and review it. And by the time they do that, they've spent on the shelves for months. So, like that, I remember that being the big problem. So that they were just like, no, this one they have to get like fast track. Bad, bad, bad, bad. All no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_06 34:42

Everything is illegal. We have to manually un illegal it. Unil. You you've lost freedom privileges, all of you.

SPEAKER_02 34:50

Dummy, stop it taking these. Damn it, what do we gotta do?

Young Lifters, Shortcuts, And Risks

SPEAKER_06 34:53

So, yeah, this is uh this is day three. We we started on a Monday, which uh typically I advise against. I say do it whenever, whatever. But if it truly is a thing where it's it's going to work better with your schedule, then you know go on and do what you will. And this is fitting into my pre-existing workout schedule, which is already in my my calendar. I don't miss days unless there's a reason to. So if that's the case, by all means. But if you are just starting a new routine, do it whenever. Don't start Monday, don't start tomorrow, start that day. But yeah, this is day three, and it's um it's tough. We've got some adjustments to make.

SPEAKER_01 35:32

But on the bright side, Mike has already put on 22 pounds. So we are flying of water and he looks great.

SPEAKER_06 35:41

We're sodium maxic right now.

SPEAKER_03 35:44

Are we sure that's wasn't the 22 pounds worth of drugs he's injected?

SPEAKER_02 35:48

Big by any means. Rob, you're gonna get me in trouble. I can tell you.

SPEAKER_03 35:54

Have you been using synthole?

SPEAKER_02 35:56

I'll tell you how to put on a ton of weight, like literally tons of weight. So, okay, there's a car, car, there's a car called the DeLorean. What you're gonna do is you're gonna go buy one of those. It's a car. There's a car called the DeLorean. You go buy one of those, you park it thousands of pounds, no problem. Get in it right in style.

SPEAKER_06 36:14

So I'm am I getting on the scale in the am I driving up onto the bathroom scale?

SPEAKER_02 36:19

You bring it everywhere with you. Literally.

SPEAKER_06 36:22

I mean, come on. You don't need to use a bathroom scale. They got truck scales. They're weighing my they're weighing me at the doctor's office, and I have to drive the one of the wheels up onto the scale. I crush it completely. Shatter the whole apparatus.

SPEAKER_02 36:34

If you do that, put in reverse, go back in time, you didn't do it. It's no problem.

SPEAKER_06 36:38

Well, actually, no, you wouldn't know this, Liam, but you have to get the car up to 88 miles per hour before it will die. But I know because you haven't seen the book. I don't care. There's nothing we can do about this.

SPEAKER_02 36:51

I just want this shiny car. Shut up. It's not even shiny, it's matte. It's brushed. I've never seen it in person. I don't see the I just want it for the fucking bit. How why is this so hard to understand? I don't understand anything about the car, how it works, or how to drive it. I just want it.

SPEAKER_06 37:10

It's manual. Can you drive a manual?

Humor Break: DeLorean Tangent

SPEAKER_02 37:12

Fuck no, I can't. I've never driven a manual in my life, but I just need the car. I'm sure I can go down the street. I can figure it out. I'll make it work well enough. You're blowing with all the details.

SPEAKER_06 37:25

He's gonna give it a first gear and blow the engine out in about a month and a half.

SPEAKER_02 37:31

Oh, it's a lot quicker than that. The DeLorean's a shitty car. That's the one thing I know about it, is it's a shitty ass car, and I won't.

SPEAKER_06 37:37

7,000 RPM on its way to the grocery store.

SPEAKER_02 37:40

But damn, well, I look fucking cool though. People are gonna stop. Yeah, you're gonna stop. It's gonna bring down going to the grocery store. You come out and somebody's got the fucking doors that open up and they're throwing their groceries in there. You're like, that's a cool motherfucker right there. I want to be them.

SPEAKER_03 37:57

Don't forget to install the smoke machine so as you open the door, it goes that well, he doesn't need it because his engine's gonna be smoking. Oh, that's that's fair. That's fair.

SPEAKER_02 38:07

I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_06 38:09

Doc Brown didn't need to do all that. Okay, like he pulls the door.

SPEAKER_02 38:15

So it doesn't matter. Why is it so hard to understand? You keep going back to this. Oh, but um, actually, I don't care. I don't care. I want shiny car, mat carr, who gives a shit? I want the car and I want it, I want to drive it around in any way I'm physically able to do so.

SPEAKER_06 38:36

And that's it. If anybody's involved in a lawsuit against the firm that was supposed to be developing this car and keeping it from production, please uh contact us. We will do anything about it.

SPEAKER_02 38:47

I was talking literally before this, I was at the bank or the credit union talking with a financial advisor. I was like, I need$250,000. Now there were some problems with that, but that's what I was like, I told him that's what I need to buy this new car.

SPEAKER_06 39:00

He was with a financial advisor. That was that was the plan this morning.

SPEAKER_02 39:03

That's what I was met with a financial advisor, and the main point was new DeLorean or old DeLorean. I guess old one's cheaper, so probably old one. Yeah, 40, 50, did they approve you? I'm still working on it, but yeah, so we're like just like your body. When you get your body figured out, I'll have a fucking DeLorean.

SPEAKER_06 39:18

You keep going consistently every day, you're gonna look like a guy who ate the DeLorean, which is car-shaped.

SPEAKER_02 39:24

What do you want to look like? Have you ever seen a Buick before?

SPEAKER_06 39:28

What macros do I need to be lightning the queen?

SPEAKER_02 39:31

One time I saw a Mac truck and I was kind of thinking.

SPEAKER_06 39:35

Now, would you be like, would your face be like the eyes or the headlights, or would you be like a Thomas the tank engine where there's an anthropomorphic face stuck to the front of the Transformers before? Yes. That okay. So you you you can become a car, but you can also become a guy again.

Consistency, Photos, And Self-Investment

SPEAKER_02 39:53

Yeah, so sure, yeah, why not? Are you just accepting notes on this? You've got no particular plans. I'm not as firm on this as the DeLorean part. That one I'm pretty fucking set in stone or in stainless steel or whatever it is. But yeah, the other one, sure. Whatever works.

SPEAKER_06 40:12

Stainless steel. Very heavy car.

SPEAKER_02 40:16

With its V8 or whatever it's got in it. I don't fucking know.

SPEAKER_06 40:20

It's a it's a heavy V8 engine. It was supposed to be a sports car, but then due to some.

SPEAKER_02 40:24

Is it a V8? I had literally, I just guessed that. That's the only thing I know about cars. It's V8, Hemi, and like wheels. I'm like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 40:34

Well, at least you know wheels.

SPEAKER_02 40:35

I I get scammed every time I go get my car fixed. Every single time. They're like, Yeah, you need a new Johnson rod. I'm like, oh, that's expensive. Yeah, for sure. Put that in there because I don't fucking know.

SPEAKER_06 40:45

We gotta replace the blinker fluid. It'll be$4,000.

SPEAKER_02 40:48

That sounds like you really you need that quickly. You should probably make it$5,000. I'm just concerned. So yeah, up it a little bit just in case.

SPEAKER_06 40:56

Put the high mileage breaking brake fluid in there.

SPEAKER_02 40:59

Yeah, exactly. Blinking fluid. That's that's pretty much me. Every time I go to the mechanic, I don't fucking know.

SPEAKER_03 41:04

No, this is this is probably why the financial advisor.

SPEAKER_02 41:07

Exactly. I'm so shitty with money. I they were asked me, like, how much do you make? I'm like, I legitimately don't know. I have no idea. I had to like go and find the apps and figure it out. Like, I I I I I don't they're like, what do you don't have like any idea for your last? No, I have no idea. I don't do money, I'm not good with money.

SPEAKER_06 41:24

That's why you got denied for a$250,000 loan, by the way.

SPEAKER_03 41:28

But it didn't help. How much money do you make? I use money to buy cottage cheese, that's all I know and beans, and that's pretty much it.

SPEAKER_02 41:35

I buy Oakley a shit ton of toys, probably more than she needs, but she's gonna be my only child, so I might as well fucking splurge on that, and then there you go. And they get me a DeLorean, and I don't really care about the rest. So, anyway, Mike, so you've been working out though, like for a little bit. Yeah, yeah, you know I have.

SPEAKER_06 41:51

Come to think of it, I have. Oh, and um, yes, it's been enlightening. I I started, I I had I had a real rough year last year. It was uh it was it was it was pretty dark. Um, so I I I didn't gain any weight, but I fell out of my my gym routine and eventually back in November or so, and some of the height of that awfulness. I'm like, I I want to invest in myself again. And I and I did. I got back into the gym. I decided I'm gonna take pictures every time I'm in there. Um just because I don't post it doesn't mean they're not there. And I yeah, it's just like I'm trying to get my mind past being afraid of the camera or being afraid of um anything. So it's yeah, I I started back in November. I've just been doing it on my own with what I know. I realized at a certain point I know how to make a fat guy fit. I don't know how to make a fit guy really fit. And that's when I, you know, I started talking with somebody who knows more than me. There's never a uh any shame or any problem in getting some help, getting some advice, new input, you know. It's I think a lot of people are ashamed to do it.

Gamifying The Gym: Advent Idea

SPEAKER_02 43:00

I like what you said about like the taking the pictures, because I feel like that's good, you know, like accountability and shit. What do you guys think? What if you made like an advent calendar, but for like working out, like for your gym for the month? So every day you work out, you open this little tiny box, and there's like just a little itty bitty toy in there, or something like something stupid. And then every time you go to the gym, you take it out like, oh, look at this thing, it's a sticky hand or whatever. Like the violent trend. Heck yeah. Well, I mean, there's for the more serious ones, and there's the ones for me that I'm just a fucking child and I just want a little toy. It's like, oh, it's a flute, like it's a tiny little flute. Like, I'd love that. Here's a kazoo, thanks. Like, I would not have to do that. Something you don't know what it is. Because that's what I think is like I like, especially like Oakley's watching like your like things on YouTube and stuff, and it's like, oh, open this thing up. Like all the kids, you know, like we all love that. Like you the understanding of the arena. Yeah, like okay, yeah, it's just like a tiny little thing. We all love that stuff. We love the mystery. We we start that for the gym where you just open up a little door and there's something stupid in there, and it makes but your make makes your brain happy for a second, and so like you're more interested in going to the gym. I think that's a pretty good idea, unironically.

SPEAKER_06 44:11

We've come up with a lot of good product ideas on this show, and I don't think any of them have gone to market yet. I think this is marketly better than

SPEAKER_02 44:18

Already on the market like scrow talks, but like you know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 44:21

What about the nutrition bucket?

SPEAKER_02 44:23

The nutrition bucket was we're gonna have some struggles with that one. I'm not gonna lie. That one's gonna we have to get the FDA involved. That one's gonna be a little bit more difficult. But this one with little toys in a little door, that we could just make.

SPEAKER_03 44:36

Yeah. Didn't you guys make Kinder Surprises illegal because of the little toys?

SPEAKER_02 44:40

That's with food. We're not dealing with food in this one. That's what that would be what's great about this, is like the first thing we release has nothing to do with food at all. It's just little tiny toys and little tiny doors. And you you go to the gym and you open one up.

SPEAKER_06 44:53

What about little action figures of us in there?

SPEAKER_02 44:56

Yeah, there's like a little action figure. Like it's a He-Man and it says you look like shit in that way.

SPEAKER_03 45:02

I like the idea of um one in 500 chance of opening the door and finding a uh in moderation figurine, and you have to collect them all.

SPEAKER_02 45:11

I like I I like the idea of having like a really rare one because that's what that gets people to buy it again, is they're looking for that rare thing. I like that's good. Keep that. We're gonna keep that. I don't know exactly what we're putting there, but that's a great idea. I love it.

SPEAKER_06 45:23

Yeah, yeah, this is gonna work. This is this is gonna work. When we do our inmoderation key.

SPEAKER_02 45:30

It went mold. That's why it smelled so bad. Damn it. I didn't know I was supposed to keep this one in the fridge.

SPEAKER_06 45:35

The paper is like, it's it's crumbling and falling apart.

SPEAKER_02 45:38

This was wet, wet. Yeah, we're still working on it a little bit. We still got some problems.

SPEAKER_06 45:44

The cardboard packaging is not cutting it.

SPEAKER_02 45:47

There's a one in a million chance you open up as a fucking key to a DeLorean, and then you just go be like, we're gonna lose a lot of money on. We gotta sell a lot of them. We're gonna have to sell a lot of them.

SPEAKER_06 45:58

Hey Google, what are the profit margins on retail items?

Coach Plugs And Content Plans

SPEAKER_02 46:02

I mean, like, those little tiny toys cost very little, right? And all you need is like a fucking square that like has a little door, like advent calendar. I don't think this would be that hard. You said you could sell it for like 30 bucks and get a bunch of like little toys. I think this is a great idea. It's like a dollar a day. A dollar a day to go to the gym. It encourages you to go to the gym. I don't know what we're calling it yet.

SPEAKER_06 46:23

Everybody write in P.O. box. We need a P.O. box so I can complete this bit. Uh, write in, write your letters in if you would get this advent calendar from in moderation.

SPEAKER_02 46:34

I could 70% of the people listening right now are like, this is a fucking great idea, and I would totally buy my first of how many people?

SPEAKER_03 46:41

What's the sample size?

SPEAKER_02 46:42

I don't fucking know.

SPEAKER_03 46:44

If if the chance of a DeLorean is one in a million and the DeLorean costs 250,000.

SPEAKER_02 46:50

I was now whoa, whoa, I was thinking an old DeLorean now, okay. Rob, let's get an old DeLorean. That way it's only like 50,000.

SPEAKER_03 46:57

That's what's four fifty, forty, fifty.

SPEAKER_02 46:58

It's like fifty, let's say fifty thousand dollars.

SPEAKER_03 47:01

I mean, we'd we'd still make pretty good profit off that.

SPEAKER_02 47:03

That's I'm saying. I think listen, I think it's a pretty good idea. I think this would work. If we start anything, I say we start that.

unknown 47:11

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 47:11

Oh, like I guess I can't. Yeah, I mean, I bought this like little spiral cutter thing for potatoes. You go and it just like cuts them into little pieces. Throw one of those fucking things in there or whatever. There's lots of little tiny things. Dude, when I was a kid, oh man, they had little army guys with the fucking backpack shit that was like a parachute. That was the greatest thing ever. Like, and we're all and like we're all just like kids at heart. Throw little things in there. I listen, I'm I'm stuck on this. I'm gonna be bringing this up as much as the door one.

SPEAKER_03 47:36

When Mike gets all buff and stuff, we can take a we could get a picture of him doing a back double bicep, and that'll be the the advent calendar thing. Oh, the whole advent calendar. Open little bits of Mike.

SPEAKER_02 47:47

Oh, but oh, because he's done so many steroids, it's all zits. So you just open the door on each zit. Is that one?

SPEAKER_06 47:53

Is that you're popping them open?

SPEAKER_02 47:56

You pop open his his transits on his back as you you go to the gym every day.

SPEAKER_06 48:02

Yeah, give me give me six months. I'm gonna come back in here looking like a like a cow.

SPEAKER_02 48:07

I listen. I'm stuck on this. That's all that's all I want to talk about for the rest of not just this podcast, but every episode from now on.

SPEAKER_06 48:16

Welcome back to Inmoderation Under Development.

SPEAKER_02 48:19

Where I pitched this idea. I'm going on Shark Tank. These mother cards, like I they would, I'm told I would get one of them. I'd at least get um what's the fucking uh Cuban. I'd at least get Cuban on this. I think he'd do it.

SPEAKER_06 48:32

You think this is a Cuban type of thing? You know what? I think he would.

SPEAKER_02 48:35

I think Cuban's out there and like he like he's like he had had a sports ball team at one point, and like I think like exercise or whatever. I think I get cubes. I think I get cubes in on this.

unknown 48:46

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 48:47

I call him cubes in cubes. Yeah, I'd say cubes. Come on, help me out here.

SPEAKER_03 48:51

Marky cubes. Somebody send this podcast to cubes.

SPEAKER_02 48:54

Someone's gonna have it.

SPEAKER_03 48:56

I got it, guys.

SPEAKER_04 48:57

Statistics. Oh, Quincy got it. Yeah, I got him. Quincy knows cubes. I got him.

Final Advice And Sign-Off

SPEAKER_02 49:02

Well, make sure we tell you, uh, Quincy, to where where can more people find things, stuff, talk about whatever space. Make sure we say that because we always forget. What? Your plugs. You where you find stuff.

SPEAKER_01 49:14

Where are we finding stuff, guys?

SPEAKER_02 49:16

You people want to track you down.

SPEAKER_03 49:19

If somebody wants to hire you for a coach, where would they go? Well he's doing the bit that I do where I always say I don't want to be found.

SPEAKER_01 49:26

You can find me around. I work out at around.

SPEAKER_03 49:30

You know, you go to the gym, you might find me.

SPEAKER_02 49:32

Yeah, I bet. For the people who have who don't watch this, they don't know what you look like, just go up to random people and just ask if he's working out and eventually 200 million times later.

SPEAKER_01 49:45

Tell you what, I will try to I will give you my home address right now, and you just show up.

SPEAKER_02 49:51

I will dox myself.

SPEAKER_06 49:53

Quince is not a big content guy, but I want to I want to transform him just as he's transforming me. I want I want to uh get him into the content game.

SPEAKER_01 50:02

So um see, yeah I I was into it. That's actually how Mike found me. Mike actually followed me off of a video of me calling some dude a bitch because he was scared of seed oils.

SPEAKER_02 50:13

That's that seems about right.

SPEAKER_06 50:15

Yeah, yeah, you gotta get back on that because you you've just you've got this delivery where you're just like straight faced, like it almost looks like you're strained and and you're calling people out, and it's it's just it's so funny to me, and you've got a great mindset. You're you're fucking Jack. You're a good guy. What's up? Mike, where did you find Quincy? Where did I find Quincy? Quincy, are you gonna start posting on your Instagram account? Yeah, yeah. Because I know you want to. I'm uh I'm gonna figure it out. I'm gonna figure it out. We're gonna figure it out together. You are I'm gonna tell them where to find you because you deserve to be found. You do good work and you say good things. It is coach.quincy. I love a simple username that's pretty difficult.

SPEAKER_02 50:55

That's actually not that's not bad at all.

SPEAKER_06 50:57

Yeah, because like with you, Liam, you've got to give them underscores sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 51:02

Yeah. No, I don't, because I just say look up cottage cheese guy. That's why I got that corner.

SPEAKER_06 51:06

That's even better.

SPEAKER_02 51:07

Literally, if you just Google that, it'll pull up all of my accounts and you don't have to worry about it. Here's the thing. People ask me like out and about, like, where do you find it? I just say just Google cottage cheese guy, and you find and that's it.

SPEAKER_01 51:16

I'm gonna copy one-to-one all of Liam's videos, and that is how I will become famous. It says it. Yeah, you go. Meta AI.

SPEAKER_06 51:24

No, I'm on Meta AI. It says cottage cheese guy likely refers to Liam Leighton, a content creator laundry's pretty and sarcastic food-related videos featuring cottage cheese recipes on YouTube and TikTok. Or Shane Gillis. Who is cottage cheese guy? A comedian who started in a popular skit called Cottage Cheese Guy.

SPEAKER_04 51:43

Oh.

SPEAKER_06 51:44

Do we have some turf words going on here? Shane Gillis.

SPEAKER_01 51:55

Oh, okay, Shane. Yeah, no, I do know. You've got some uh lawsuits on your hand.

SPEAKER_02 52:00

Listen, listen, they'll still be able to find me. They'll be able to find me as long as I'm in the like the top there. Whatever.

SPEAKER_06 52:06

Yep, you're the you're the top three results on this thing.

SPEAKER_03 52:10

You know who's you know who is in the top three results for Google? Zach Cohen.

SPEAKER_02 52:15

That's interesting. It's you and Keto Snacks. Yeah, no, keto. That one, that one, I've seen that. So yeah, see, easy peasy.

SPEAKER_06 52:24

Quincy, thanks for hanging out with us. Do you have any advice, uh parting words for anybody out there who might want to get in shape and uh really challenge their bodies? Don't do drugs, kids, unless you hire me as your coach. I got the good stuff.

SPEAKER_01 52:38

Yeah, if you are looking for more uh balanced lifestyle, don't listen to me. Um, I can tell you what to do, but you gotta listen to people more like Mike. Um, because he's got that shit on lock. I help people step into the more extreme side. So if you want to get jacked, hit me up. If you want to lose 352 pounds, hit up Mike.

SPEAKER_03 53:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 53:06

Um, hit up Liam if you want a DeLorean.

SPEAKER_03 53:11

If you well, you didn't get approved for the DeLorean, so you don't get that moniker yet.

SPEAKER_01 53:16

Yeah, it'll be in the it'll be in the advent calendar, though. So it's in the works.

SPEAKER_02 53:20

It's in the works. I was gonna do a retirement. That was that's really what I was setting up was like a retirement account because I figured I should probably have that, but I'm gonna scrap it and go DeLorean.

SPEAKER_03 53:29

The DeLorean savings account.

SPEAKER_02 53:30

That is that is now my retirement. It's just having a DeLorean account. Perfect.