In Moderation

Stop Overthinking Food

Rob Lapham, Liam Layton Season 1 Episode 127

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You’re not failing at healthy eating, you’re drowning in overcomplicated advice.

We sit down with Danny Dino Milk, a creator who lost 120 pounds and kept it off with a refreshingly realistic approach to food. No “perfect” meal plans, no purity rules, no pretending life is a constant Sunday meal prep. We talk about the meals that actually show up in her day to day, like yogurt bowls, high-fiber breads and wraps, frozen berries that don’t rot overnight, and the kind of “good enough” dinners you can repeat when you’re tired. Her core rule is simple and powerful: have what you want, add what you need. If the meal is low in protein, add chicken. If you need more fiber, swap the base. Keep the food enjoyable so it’s sustainable.

We also get into the parts nobody wants to admit out loud: food can feel like a chore, cooking can be a barrier, and picky eating is real. Danny shares how autism and texture sensitivity shape her choices and why that doesn’t disqualify you from making progress. From portioning takeout to leaning on pre-made proteins and frozen staples, we focus on practical weight loss habits that reduce friction.

Then we vent about the internet’s favorite distractions: ingredient list panic, preservatives, sweeteners, and nutrition purists who major in technicalities. If you’ve ever felt stuck because you can’t do it “right,” this is your permission slip to do it simply and keep going.

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Postal Service Privatization Cold Open

SPEAKER_06

So today we're talking about the privatization of the post office.

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Apparently.

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We're going to sell post office to the highest bidder.

SPEAKER_07

So if uh Nestle, if you're listening to the U.S., it's like the United States Postal Service, right?

SPEAKER_06

Yes, the United States Postal Service.

SPEAKER_07

Okay.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. Are we selling the rest of them? I feel like the rest of the US is the first one.

SPEAKER_07

What's the difference between USPS and UPS?

SPEAKER_06

UPS is the United Parcel Service, which is a private company that's a good idea.

SPEAKER_04

Same thing with FedEx. You would think so, but no, nothing.

SPEAKER_07

So UPS is what they want to make USPS into.

SPEAKER_04

Something like that.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, that they want to privatize it and like give it to shareholders.

SPEAKER_04

Listen, we privatized our prisons. It went perfectly. No one has any negative notes. So why not do it for our post office? That's what I'm hearing.

SPEAKER_06

I think we should. I too would like to get my letters four weeks late, potentially, if it shows up at all.

SPEAKER_07

Oh if you want your letters four weeks late, move to Canada. Canada Post. Everything's super late. Every house is 15 miles apart.

SPEAKER_04

I was gonna say you live in an area where it's next to impossible to get there, so you can't really blame them. That's kind of shitty.

SPEAKER_07

It would help if the government would, you know, purchase faster horses for them.

Ginger Beer Debate And Chaos

SPEAKER_04

You have mooses and bears. Like, damn. Like, of course they can't get to where they're trying to get to.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Every time you go to the grocery store, you have to package. Guys, I have a I have a super serious question. I have here a ginger beer and a root beer. If I combine them, is that how baby beer is made? I think it's a screenshot.

SPEAKER_04

I hate ginger beer. God, I really don't like it. I was like, oh, I love ginger.

SPEAKER_07

I love beer 50% less sugar.

SPEAKER_04

I don't give a 50% less taste. Not even 50% less taste. It's like 100% negative taste. Fucking get that shit out of here. I hate it.

SPEAKER_06

I don't think I've had ginger beer. What is this?

SPEAKER_04

You haven't had ginger beer? No.

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No.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know what that is.

SPEAKER_04

Our guess that we haven't even introduced, just like sitting here, like, ah, no, I'll just like tag a long moment.

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Shut the fuck up. We didn't bring you here to talk.

SPEAKER_06

I can't even believe you piped up.

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Mike, we're sharing a collective brain cell.

Danny’s 120-Pound Weight Loss

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We do. I'm gonna pass the brain cell on to Danny and she can tell us what she knows. Danny introduced yourself.

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Tell us about yourself. I mean I'm gonna mix these.

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I'm gonna drink a blender full of berries.

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Tell you about what I know. I don't know, I don't know anything. Let's be real.

SPEAKER_04

You'll fit right in. That's the show every person.

SPEAKER_01

I don't know what I'm doing.

SPEAKER_04

None of us know what we're doing. That's literally the show.

SPEAKER_06

You lost 120 pounds. I did, yes. Which is an incredible feat. And you now make videos on Instagram where you tell people and you show people all of the things that you make that have helped you to stay where you're at. And they're not the typical like glitzy uh influencer sort of fare. How would you describe the way that you eat to maintain your weight loss?

SPEAKER_01

Kind of like a child. I think it's so funny because I literally I'll make a video of me just eating like peanut butter and jelly and mac and cheese, and people are like, wow, this is groundbreaking stuff.

SPEAKER_07

Can I just say when you mix ginger beer and root beer, they kind of cancel each other out and you end up with water?

SPEAKER_04

God, the amount of times he's Rob has brought this up. Like it's not a DeLorean. Can we fucking calm down a little bit here?

SPEAKER_05

Jesus. You know what that reminds me of? You know what? Speaking of the Dean too much.

SPEAKER_06

We had, I gotta say, we had a great bit planned. I I uh Danny listens to the show and she knows about the DeLorean thing. So I'm like, what if we had you mention the DeLorean before Liam? And we were trying to figure out if it was gonna be like at the end of the episode, like last time 50 minutes in.

SPEAKER_04

Listen, when it comes to me, I can't fast. Just ask April, all right? It's bing bang boom, done.

SPEAKER_07

Except for getting that uh the snip, you're not getting that very fast.

SPEAKER_04

Holy shit, I gotta wait till June. It's it's uh the American healthcare system. Can't I just pay to get it done faster?

SPEAKER_06

Go on YouTube and just get a pair of scissors.

SPEAKER_04

I I feel like a mechanic, they cut things like under the hood of a car. So, like, what's really the difference? I would go to one of them. If you were gonna okay, if you were getting like major surgery, but you couldn't get it from a surgeon, what uh you know what who are you going to? Like what like what what what what what profession, I guess I should say. That can't be like a doctor or surgeon. Who are you going to?

SPEAKER_06

I'm going to Danny to get me to fix my my diet, I think, is what I'm gonna do. Because if I want to put some shit on white bread to make it different shit and have it make me lose 120 pounds, Danny's the person I'm going to for this.

SPEAKER_00

I'm telling you, the possibilities are endless.

SPEAKER_06

Tell them about some of your recipes. Like, because it again, you're not doing like the typical, like, you know, wooden cutting board stuff. It's very accessible and it's for you.

SPEAKER_01

My favorite thing right now is the cinnamon bread. It's like by the Live Carb Smart Brand. It's just it's cinnamon bread. It's like 35 calories per slice, nine grams of fiber per slice, and then I take um like that PB2 powder with the cocoa, it's like the cocoa flavored kind with sugar-free cinnamon.

SPEAKER_07

I thought you were gonna say cocaine.

SPEAKER_01

Cocaine, that's it. You know what? To each their own.

SPEAKER_04

That'll also work. You lose weight doing that. Have you ever seen an overweight crackhead? I haven't.

SPEAKER_01

Google search how many calories are in cocaine.

SPEAKER_04

Negative, negative something. Can we put a disclaimer in here really quick? We don't need those. No, no, okay, never mind. Just cinnamon or cinnamon raisin? Because that's what I like. That's my channel. You get the cinnamon raisin, that's just delicious.

SPEAKER_01

It says cinnamon swirl.

SPEAKER_04

Cinnamon swirl. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

It's just like a chocolate spread on top of cinnamon bread. It's really good.

SPEAKER_07

But yeah, I mean, if you put it in the uh dryer, you end up with cinnamon toast crunch.

SPEAKER_04

Air fried. Air fried, see what happens. I can understand why people would be like this is groundbreaking or whatever. Because like you just see all the recipes where you're like, do this and that, and like all the fucking steps. You're like, God damn, I wanted to eat 30 minutes ago. Holy shit, what are we doing? And now we're making a fucking bowl and say, what is this? Like, so I get like, you know, throw some shit on some bread, put it in your face hole, and call it a day. Like, it doesn't have to be that complicated. So I'm with it.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. I feel like it's very overwhelming just for the average person when you're consuming a lot of health content. Every recipe when you Google, like healthy eating recipes, low calorie recipes for weight loss, all of them have like 25 fucking steps, and it's like, yeah, I'm not making that, I'm not doing all that.

SPEAKER_07

You know, I I started the give me some healthy eating recipes.

SPEAKER_04

All right. Well, while I was doing that, I fucking like did one where it's like you can make dinner, no how tired you are. And the first step was like toasting Orzo, and I was like, all right, this is gonna be a real trip.

SPEAKER_01

What is Orzo?

SPEAKER_07

Uh exactly the first recipe is quinoa harvest bowl.

SPEAKER_04

I'll pass. It's always a bowl. Yeah, it's like okay, roast the sweet potatoes. Frickin' uh uh grate your cheese, blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_07

Yep. Yep.

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Yep.

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You're you're literally you're you're two for two.

SPEAKER_04

That's why I'm the uh bean salad person. It's just like throw beans and a bunch of other shit in there, and then like throw it in your fridge and eat it for five days. That's how I eat healthy. I eat cereal.

SPEAKER_06

Cereal's good. I'm drinking a blender full of berries right now.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it's fucking smoothies.

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And mangoes.

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I'm eating dried mango right now. That's what I got. That's what I keep near my phone too. Dried mangoes great.

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Hey, are we all doing mangoes? We're doing mangoes. Hell yeah. Cheers, you guys. Mangoes and cocaine. The inmoderation diet.

SPEAKER_04

Have you seen the the boy kibble thing? What are your thoughts on that, Danny? You getting into the boy kibble or no?

SPEAKER_01

The boy kibble. I like the girl dinner thing a lot better. Yeah. More girl dinner. Mike is actually Mike is ruining our collective brain cell with all of his uh boy dinners.

SPEAKER_04

It's it well the the the thing is with um Mike makes good boy dinner, which is dog food. That's basically the way he makes it.

SPEAKER_06

Good boy dinner is a crazy way to put it.

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Good boy.

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It adds a little layer of kink to it.

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You've got something to eat to keep you alive. You're such a good boy. Good boy.

SPEAKER_06

That's what I need. By the way, um uh if anyone would like to apply to the position of calling me a good boy while I make my dinner, send it to a channel.

SPEAKER_04

I'm sure people would. I'm sure you would throw that link up.

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There's no safe word.

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Oh dangerous to live on the edge.

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I'm committing to this. There's no say the safe word's banana boat.

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Oh, see, there you go. Mine's DeLorean.

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You know what that reminds me of? The DeLorean. By the way, just in case anybody, because I don't think we've explained this in a while, there's a new DeLorean coming out. Maybe tentatively. And we're raising$250,000 because Liam hasn't seen the Back to the Future films. And he wants to be able to, when people ask, by the way, also, no one's would ever ask you that question because the new DeLorean doesn't look like the old one.

SPEAKER_04

I'm thinking I'm thinking that's why the old DeLorean might be best.

SPEAKER_07

No, no, no. Speaking of DeLorean, we finally got the DeLorean food pyramid.

SPEAKER_04

The Food Lorian. Flu Lorian. Somebody sent to me. I was like, whoa, we finally got something. It looked like that. Yeah, who sent that to us?

SPEAKER_06

Let's give them a shout-out.

SPEAKER_04

If we all just eat like this, then we're set. Everybody's set. Forget the upside-down food pyramid. Food Lorien. That's where it's at. And also the bucket. What did we call it? Oh fuck. The sustenance bucket. I don't even remember the things we call it.

SPEAKER_06

The nutrition bucket. It's a nutrition bucket. You just put all of your daily calories into this bucket. You can mix it, blend it.

SPEAKER_04

I kind of like sustenance bucket because it really comes off as like you just you're eating it just enough to keep you alive. This is purely for the biomechanics of not dying.

Food Does Not Need Fancy

SPEAKER_06

Yes. Danny, how do you feel about because as somebody who used to be very large as I was, like is does food feel like a chore to you at this point? Um you almost kind of wish you didn't have to eat.

SPEAKER_01

Sometimes I feel like that's why I like to simplify things. I feel like when it's more complicated, it just dries your brain.

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Makes you just what else, what else are you eating? What do you like what you well breakfast? That's a thing people do. What's that?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, breakfast is good. I love yogurt. Yogurt bowls is my favorite thing because you just throw stuff in a bowl.

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That's what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_01

That's my favorite, my favorite.

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What's your favorite thing to throw in a bowl? What do you what else do you throw in a bowl? Uh yogurt, then what?

SPEAKER_01

Um cereal sometimes on top of the yogurt.

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I like it.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, the zero sugar pudding mix mix that in there.

SPEAKER_04

Um, I like I I I always go uh frozen berries because I I literally, whenever I swear to fucking god, I buy fresh berries the next day. All of them are moldy. Every single one of them. I've fucking given up on buying any fresh berries, only frozen, microwave them, throw them in there with dates, nuts, and granola, maybe honey. Boom, done. That's it.

SPEAKER_01

I felt that. I'm convinced there's no way to keep berries fresh, no matter what you do.

SPEAKER_04

And then you gotta you're like, oh, just do this thing and wrap it in like a fucking cheesecloth or whatever they're coming up with. I'm like, no, I'm not doing all that. I'm not doing that.

SPEAKER_07

Or you could just go buy some frozen ones.

SPEAKER_04

Exactly. I'll just buy frozen ones. Please and thank you.

SPEAKER_06

It's this kind of deliberation that keeps people from making changes. Yeah. Because they think it's it's so complicated. Everything we do is difficult. So why even try? Because my life is just gonna be a mess of logistics trying to lose weight.

SPEAKER_04

And that's what I say about uh I posted recently about like uh the fucking tea bags. Like, oh, there's microplastics in your tea bags. Like, is this really what we're worried about? And then people are like, isn't it a thing? I'm like, yeah, kinda, but like also fuck me. Like, are you really gonna worry about this with everything else going on? Like, you can only worry about so much. What are you really gonna make it about the nano micro billion plastic whatever in your tea, as opposed to like, let me just eat some healthy shit and get some sleep. Fuck.

SPEAKER_06

Danny, at what point did it click to you that you didn't have to be complicated to get to where you're at?

SPEAKER_01

Honestly, I don't know. To be honest, I really don't know. I think the reason that I was able to lose so much weight is because I never made it complicated.

SPEAKER_04

So, like right from the start, you were like, I'm just gonna eat uh like canned cat food and just like hope for the best, or like what was your plan going into it?

SPEAKER_01

Just kind of finding stuff that I actually like eating. I feel like when people go into this, they kind of try to change their entire diet, and it just becomes like they just like start building this life that they hate, and it's like that's not something that you're gonna stick to long term. You're just you're gonna end up eventually crashing and burning and going back to the things that you always like to eat. So the whole time, why are you just not eating the things that you already like?

SPEAKER_04

But yeah, like changing them a little bit to fit your like goals. So I'm assuming that's what you did with like sandwiches and like yogurt bowls and shit like that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

What do you what are you doing for dinners?

SPEAKER_01

One of my favorite things right now is um they're these red baron personal pizzas. I put parmesan cheese on. They're like 400 calories or something, and I put parmesan cheese on them. I make grilled chicken on the side because you add more protein. And then I get these um, they're like Atkins gummy bears. They got like 13 grams of fiber in them. It's like a supplement type thing.

SPEAKER_04

Somebody's I somebody missed. I uh I heard like some she was through water. I had to turn my headset back on.

SPEAKER_07

I always find it hilarious that um we always look at pizza as being unhealthy, and then you take each individual ingredient and they're they're perfectly fine on their own.

SPEAKER_04

It's it's the staple of the food laurean, and yet people are saying it's unhealthy. Ridiculous.

SPEAKER_07

Yep.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, we all know that yeah, the food Laurean is is the the apex of nutritious information.

SPEAKER_04

It's the staple, it's the fucking ground concrete that holds everything else up. You know what I'm talking about? I don't know. I'm not bro, somebody uh like people are talking about like iron brew. Iron brew is like a soda from Scotland. They're like, it tastes like girders, and I'm like, okay, I don't know what the fuck that is. And everyone's surprised at me. They're like, they're girders, like iron girders. I'm like, you okay, you can add more words. It's not helping. I don't know what you're saying. Girder, I barely knew her. What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_07

Why do we want a soda that tastes like girders?

SPEAKER_04

Girders are beams, they're just like beams. I'm like, I don't fucking what am I, an architect? Why are you looking at me like I fucking know shit? Jesus. So yeah, like don't don't come at me like, oh yeah, you should know this. I don't know, dick. Why are you telling why are you coming at me with that? Anyway.

SPEAKER_06

What Danny's doing is a good example of have what you want, add what you need. And what we don't need is an iron girder, which is why she's not chosen to add that into her diet. But she has chosen to add some grilled chicken to a tasty pizza that is lacking a lot of protein. But now it has protein, so you're having that on the side. And what purpose does that serve for you?

SPEAKER_01

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_06

Like, why what why don't you just have the pizza? Why are you adding the gummy bears and also chicken?

SPEAKER_01

Well, the chicken's got protein, and then the gummy bears, they're good for one. Adds the food group of joy, arguably the most important food group of them all. And then um, I don't know, it just makes you feel more full.

SPEAKER_07

And then they're also bouncing here and there and everywhere. No, nobody can't. Is that like one of those gummy bears?

SPEAKER_06

Like those local Canadian television shit. You want to quote Merlin while you're at it?

SPEAKER_04

I know much about as much as about as much as that as all that.

SPEAKER_07

The raccoons. That was a that was a that was a cartoon.

SPEAKER_04

Nothing's helping. I got nothing.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, you're over there busy trying to figure out how to drink iron girders.

SPEAKER_04

I apparently that listen, if it's not about the DeLorean, I don't know. I don't understand it. I don't I don't get it. Other than that, it's brushed aluminum.

SPEAKER_06

Whatever. No, no, uh stainless steel, rather.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, of course I knew that.

SPEAKER_07

Duh, Mike, and it's watched the movie and everything.

SPEAKER_04

A V3 in it. I know. I'm aware. They don't make V3s. No, they don't make a V3. Not anymore, idiot. Fucking stupid.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, there's no hold on. Oh, there are three-cylinder edges. Okay, it's for motorcycles.

SPEAKER_04

There you go. Thank you very much.

SPEAKER_06

You know what the DeLorean is not, Liam? Sorry, never mind. You haven't seen the movies. We wouldn't know.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, I I don't know anything about the movies. I only know about the car. All right. It's got it's got a chassis and uh transmission. Exactly. Thank you very much. I'll take my nailing it.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah. Danny's over here wondering why on earth she came on this podcast.

SPEAKER_04

No, I love it. This is like, I don't know. Listen, we you know how we do like say 80-20, right? Like 80% is 20%. It's like 20% food. The what we talk about is like 80% bullshit, and then 20% like, hey, here's maybe some good advice that you should do. That's what we should brand it. Like 80-20, mostly bullshit.

SPEAKER_01

I think that's its charm. Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_07

That's our new tagline. Mostly bullshit.

SPEAKER_04

Mostly bullshit. I I'm fully on board. If we make shirts that say in moderation, mostly bullshit, 80-20 or something, I'll wear that. I'll rock that shit.

SPEAKER_06

In moderation crop top list. Yeah. Let's make it happen. Some booty shorts and a crop top.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, we got in moderation.

SPEAKER_04

Bullshit. Well, no, because that's the problem, is our our bullshit's the 80s, so it's not really in moderation. It's it's kind of most of it.

SPEAKER_01

Information in moderation.

SPEAKER_04

Thank you. Very see, now you're just got a flow to it. We like that.

SPEAKER_06

So people are making it way too complicated. You're just throwing shit together that you like. It wouldn't like who's gonna put uh gummy bears and pizza together, but you've decided to do this and it because it works for you. It doesn't have to look uh conventional, it's it just looks the way you want it to look.

SPEAKER_01

When I started making videos, I did not think anyone would like them. And now I get people that DM me and they're like, Can you send me your grocery list? Can you write me my grocery list?

SPEAKER_06

Right, because people just don't know where to start, and then they see somebody who has success and they're like, Could you just tell me everything? Because what they really need is the permission.

SPEAKER_01

I'm giving them permission to just eat like a normal person.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah. Like it's you can you can put gummy bears with pizza. It doesn't matter. Nothing matters. Why not?

SPEAKER_01

It's good, it works.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, my my dog food for boys is just like I just throw a bunch of shit together because it tastes good together and it hits my goals. What do you guys have for dinner? Two of you.

SPEAKER_04

Uh you often like fucking take out, go to like get some like uh this like local Indian place, like Pakistani place. Love that. I always get like a vegetable like corma. Like that's what I had like I think last night. And then other times it's pretty much what I've made for like videos, usually bean salads. I made like four bean salads for different videos, and I ate it for like breakfast, lunch, and dinner. I don't know, three, four days straight. That's just what I ate.

SPEAKER_06

Why not?

SPEAKER_04

Shit works, like whatever works.

SPEAKER_06

I'm sure I'm sure people here they heard takeout and they thought, well, I can't if I even look at takeout, I gain a thousand pounds, you know, which is not true. That's not how it works. But how how do we all make decisions?

SPEAKER_07

Pro tip refrigerators exist. They do exist. You get takeout, you eat a portion of it, and you put the rest in the fridge.

SPEAKER_04

That's what I got there right now. I ate like half of it, some non, not non-bread, because holy shit, the internet will fucking come for your throat, but whatever. Do you have anything you want right now? Chai tea? I got my non-bread, my chai tea. I'm I'm sitting here with my uh hound dog, all that stuff.

SPEAKER_07

Everybody is silently raging on the internet right now. I can just see it the comment section on YouTube. Oh my fucking god, Liam.

SPEAKER_04

That's what I oh my god. Um actually I've come to just not even pronounce the thing. I'm just like, fuck it. I'm not even saying it anymore. People get mad at Nutella. Oh, why isn't it Nutella? Why are you such an asshole? Shut up. Like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_06

Why does it matter?

SPEAKER_04

Why does it matter? Oh what it is.

SPEAKER_06

Because if you're correcting me, then clearly the word that I said elicited the thought of what it is.

SPEAKER_04

Isn't that what fucking language is?

SPEAKER_06

Derek comprehension, not cohesion.

SPEAKER_04

Holy shit. I say something, you understand the thing I'm trying to say, and that's it. That's goddamn language right there. But like, oh, you're pronouncing it slightly different. Um, actually, if we were I don't know who's speaking. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01

Those were just in any reason to get mad.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, can we talk about just okay, the fucking fetch fruit vegetable thing right off the top? I I want to murder you. Oh my god, if you're like, um, actually, that's a plate full of fruit. If we look to uh botanically speaking, I I wanna die. I want I want you to die. I want to grab you, I want to jump off a building together, both of us.

SPEAKER_07

But not before you run them over with the DeLorean.

SPEAKER_04

Fuck it. I'll go back in time because that's what it does, or something after that. I don't know. It doesn't matter. All I know is I'm fucking, I can't stand that shit.

SPEAKER_06

Hold on. I've I've got a picture here that uh I actually just showed Danny a couple of days ago. Let me pull this up here. You gotta kick out of this. Oops, technically all berries. So we've got a banana and eggplant, a tomato.

SPEAKER_04

There's no there's no oh, there's the pumpkin. Okay, I do something pumpkin should be on it at the bottom. I got it.

SPEAKER_06

Uh peppers here. These we actually have like what we would consider to be berries up this way. What's not included here is the cucumber. Cucumber, the cucumber could go in here as well. Uh yeah, watermelon. Melon. Like this would be what their plate looks like. If they got their way.

SPEAKER_04

Um, actually. Oh my god. If I say pea if I say, you know, like nuts or whatever, and I say peanuts.

SPEAKER_02

Actually, if we're there's uh they're legumes.

SPEAKER_04

I I don't know why. Fucking you know what else isn't a nut? Almonds, pistachios, fucking most of them. Cashews aren't nuts. God damn. What is a nut? Nuts, they have there's like for being on this show. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Can we cancel the show? Can it be over? Let that be the last thing we say.

SPEAKER_04

Fucking walnuts are nuts. There's a couple of them like uh acorns are nuts. I know acorns are technically nuts. So it's like you're angry about like this is a nut, okay. Then eat your nuts, fucking acorns. Go grab some. Let's get some technically all nuts.

SPEAKER_06

Chestnuts, acorns, hickory nuts. Okay, why many nuts are not true nuts? Okay, they they call them droops. Yeah, almonds, walnuts, cashews, and pecans are actually seeds within a pit surrounded by fleshy or dry husk.

SPEAKER_02

Yep.

SPEAKER_06

And you know who doesn't fucking care? Us. We don't care. Oh my god. All of these things are full of good nutrients for you to have. It doesn't matter whether it is or is not a nut.

SPEAKER_04

God, I don't know why that one drives me up a wall so much.

SPEAKER_06

Danny, do people criticize you for the way that you eat?

SPEAKER_01

Oh man. That's how my page actually got so much traction. That's how we're sort of gaining falling. I made a what I eat in a day video and it got six million views. Do you remember my comments on that video?

SPEAKER_06

I'm like, You have so much fun with it. You fire back at like you don't argue with anybody, you just clown on them harder than they could possibly hit you back. Okay, it's so nice today.

SPEAKER_01

So I had like um like a keto bagel or whatever with some sugar-free chocolate chips on it. I had a yogurt on the side. Um for lunch, I made a turkey wrap with a high fiber wrap, put a bunch of vegetables in it, and then for dinner, I literally had chicken and green beans, and then I think for a snack I had like some kind of low carb ice cream, and people were just losing their minds.

SPEAKER_04

What what'd you get? I'm kind of curious. What were like what was the backlash?

SPEAKER_01

Um, there was a lot of people just criticizing my diet, saying that like I'm gonna get cancer from all the sweeteners or things like that. Or a lot of the comments were also about my body at the very beginning of the video. It's like very creepy and very sexual. People being very weird.

SPEAKER_04

That one's feels pretty standard, unfortunately.

SPEAKER_01

But I got like thousands of comments on it, and it just it just kept going and kept going, and then now I'm here. Mel and make videos on the internet.

Trolls And Nutrition Purists

SPEAKER_04

I feel like you just kind of have to embrace it. Like you did, you come back, you make fun, you laugh at the comments. Like that's just the best way to deal with it.

SPEAKER_01

I think my favorite thing is just being nice to people and then they don't know what to do because they're expecting you to get mad.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, thank you so much for your lovely input.

SPEAKER_06

One of the best ways to diffuse trolls is to not fire back. You can either clown harder or go along with the bit, or yeah, if you're just unfailingly nice, it they don't know what to do with it. It is quite fun. But yeah, like the way that you eat, there's a lot of purists and uh you know uh naturists and whatever that are like, well, if if anything even went through a building before you had it, it is tainted. So, like obviously a lot of the stuff that you have is is not gonna fly with guys like Paul Saladino or the uh the suboptimal guy that that 15-year-old kid wearing a suit saying, like that.

SPEAKER_04

I'm like, I don't what do you want from me here? What am I gonna possibly add to this interesting conversation? I don't know.

SPEAKER_06

It's clearly it's sat like that that kid is definitely satire. There's no way that's not satirical. Because it's it's just it feels self-aware.

SPEAKER_01

A big reason that I post the stuff I do is because of content like that. And like when I started consuming a lot of health content, I was just like, why is no one making this content? I would like to see more of just people eating real food.

SPEAKER_06

Because it's it just feels out of reach. I know when I was trying to lose my 110, or really I was trying for a hundred, I it's I I went on every diet there was. If carnivore was a thing back then, I would have done that. But I was I did keto plenty of times and I I went vegan and organic and all that, and it's none of it stuck. It just felt like I was living somebody else's life. Right. So, like, you know, you've decided in your life. I want the decision between Super Mario or Spongebob when it comes to my craft mac and cheese. And that's right. What helped you that that is your can you explain? Because you will choose one or the other based on certain circumstances.

SPEAKER_01

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_06

You were telling me the other day, you're like, sometimes you'll use the Spongebob mac and cheese, sometimes you'll use the Super Mario mac and cheese.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's dependent on like what shape I'm in the mood for.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Uh actually the dinosaur mac and cheese is better. Which one? Dinosaur, obviously.

SPEAKER_01

They have dinosaurs?

SPEAKER_04

Oops, all dinosaurs.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

What if we just stayed quiet for the rest of it?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, we just let it for like 20 minutes.

SPEAKER_07

I'm assuming Mike's looking something up. The way he's he looked like he was typing. And are you trying to find dinosaur mac and cheese?

SPEAKER_04

I think we just silent for like 20 minutes and then go DeLorean and just fucking audit, like right at the end.

SPEAKER_06

Let's just give the people what they want.

SPEAKER_04

That's all that at this point. At least 20% of our audience has to be just here for DeLorean fucking the recurring bit.

SPEAKER_06

I get DMs uh from people that that listen to us where they're like they'll see a DeLorean reel or something and they'll send it to me.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, oh, I get tagged a few of them like, you know what? I feel like I'm doing great in life. This is this lets you know that I'm doing great.

SPEAKER_07

Who's here for the DeLoreans? Just write DeLorean in the comments. Just DeLorean or The Lorean.

SPEAKER_06

I do see that from time to time. Daddy, do you eat the way that you do because you're a picky eater? Because I always was, and I still to some degree, it's I'm working on it.

SPEAKER_01

I am an insanely picky eater, and it goes a little bit more than that because I am on the autism spectrum, so it's very difficult for me, like with textures of certain things.

SPEAKER_07

I feel that.

SPEAKER_04

So, like, I mean, here's the thing though, like, so you're trying say you're trying to lose weight, but you're like, okay, I want to eat these things. So go through what's your process? You're like, oh, I just eat a little bit less of this. Oh, I just add in this other thing I need. Like, what's what's your thought process on it?

SPEAKER_01

I think it's a little bit of both, kind of depending on what the food is. It's like, you know, um, can I add something to this to make it better? Usually, usually that's what I do. It's like I eat the thing that I want, and that's like, what can I add to this to make it better or make me feel more full?

SPEAKER_07

And is it the right shape?

SPEAKER_01

Yes. The shape is very important. Or just the presentation.

SPEAKER_06

Do you think in a blind, in a blind test, could you truly tell if you were being fed SpongeBob mac and cheese or Super Mario mac and cheese?

SPEAKER_07

Mike, the answer to that for any autistic person is yes.

SPEAKER_06

I d I am autistic. I wouldn't be able to I don't think I could tell. I really don't.

SPEAKER_01

You told me that we're gonna make this a thing. We're gonna do this in person and we're gonna explain.

SPEAKER_04

Well, I know what the next Mr. Beast video is gonna be. I took a hundred autistic people and fed them all different mac and cheese. Could they tell? People will watch that shit. Guarantee it.

SPEAKER_01

I would watch that. I would participate.

SPEAKER_04

Sign me up, Beastie. Beastie? See, I don't know what his name is. Are you guys on a first drug nickname terms with him now, huh?

SPEAKER_07

Beastie.

SPEAKER_04

Beastie Beast? Yeah. I don't even know what his real name, but sure, I'm on first.

SPEAKER_06

Mr.

SPEAKER_04

Mr.

SPEAKER_06

Mr. Beast. Oh. Yeah, it's I don't I don't know. I feel like if in a in a blind test, if I were to give you a spoon with a blindfold, it you there's no way. If you took a second and you start like, you know, feeling it around, seeing if you could feel like corners or something, then you know, yeah, this just fine.

SPEAKER_02

No, I don't. Why not?

SPEAKER_07

I think the first thing I do is you know, feel around with my tongue and be like, okay, is this a sensation that I like? Imagine like bananas.

SPEAKER_04

Somebody hears like, oh, this Int Moderation podcast, it helps people like fucking with their health. And then they tune in, and it's just like DeLoreans. And if you feel the corners of your mouth with mac and cheese, I think you could tell it's SpongeBob. They're like, Yes, I'm glad somebody told me to listen to this. I've done well in life.

SPEAKER_06

Well, what I'm hoping with this is that people can see it's not that serious. None of this is very serious. If you go into this like like torturous, and I I talk with people all the time that are like, I'm making a declaration that this is the last fast food meal I'm ever going to have, and they treat it like it's the last supper before they're being uh uh you know uh crucified.

SPEAKER_01

And it's like this is serious. What what is the best mac and cheese shape? This is a serious debate.

SPEAKER_06

I we have to try them all. I don't know. And what shapes are there? Are we missing something?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, fuck up.

SPEAKER_06

There would genuinely be people that are like, I can't have the Pokemon mac and cheese. It makes me makes my skin crawl. And I I'm weird with one catch them all, Mike. Well, there's usually not all of them in there. It's a small box, they only got room for a handful of the cats.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, why don't they have a box that's just all the shapes, like in one box? It's just called chaos and it's oops all shapes, and it's and it's dinosaurs and SpongeBob and fucking everything. I think people would buy that.

SPEAKER_06

Is that gonna be our show? In moderation, oops all shapes.

SPEAKER_04

Oops, all shapes.

SPEAKER_06

Everything. Yeah, this could go well. Danny, what is uh how do you how do you come up with the things that you make? Because you're not getting these recipes from anywhere, really. I don't think you just kind of experiment.

SPEAKER_01

I go to the store, I look at things in the store.

SPEAKER_07

Which is I think I'd like to eat that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. I'm like, wow, you know what? This might be good. Or what can we do with this?

SPEAKER_04

Okay, see, no, that's important though, because like I think when people say, like, oh, I'm gonna go on to die, whatever, the they're told, like, you have to have a plan. Have a plan when you go to the grocery store. Have it all set out, have the things you want to buy, have it written down, blah, blah, blah, whatever. Whereas your thing is the complete opposite. Like, I got no fucking plan. I go in there, that looks good, I eat it. But then I'm sure you have some plan besides like after that, right? Like you decide, like you just said, you're like, oh, what could go with this? Like, what could I do with this, right? So there is some sort of thing.

Picky Eating And Autism Textures

SPEAKER_01

Like when I go to the store now, I know the things that I like, so I'm gonna go and get those things. But it's like when I'm trying to find a new thing, sometimes I'm just walking to the store and I'm like, oh, like this might be good, or maybe we could try this. I feel like a good way to build food is kind of like like things I like to do is find different kinds of breads or like tortillas or things like that. Like the the little um like the keto breads, the low carb tortillas, things that have a lot of fiber in them. Because you can do a lot with that. It's like things that you can add things to, or things that are already prepackaged and put in bowls because you can just they're already pre-packaged, it's already there for you. You can just add whatever you want to it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I'm down with that.

SPEAKER_07

That's really genuine like that. Here's an important question. Actually, a a pre-question. What is a food you don't like, or like an ingredient you don't like?

SPEAKER_01

An ingredient I don't like. Um like mushrooms, bananas, pickles, hate pickles, can't stand pickles.

SPEAKER_07

Okay, okay. Important question. If you stumble across a recipe that has pickles in it, what do you do?

SPEAKER_06

You complain to Liam that the ingredients included pickles.

SPEAKER_02

Can I make this without pickles? Do you have a version of this that doesn't have that? Oh, what do I do if I don't like cilantro?

SPEAKER_04

You fucking leave it out, Megan. Holy shit. Just don't put it in when it says put it in or use parsley. It's not that fucking complicated.

SPEAKER_01

I can't stand when people do that. Or you use something and they're like, um, actually, I'm allergic to this. Probably don't eat that.

SPEAKER_04

Oh my god. I had so many people like, like, I don't know, the other day I was just like, oh, like uh fucking potato chips aren't inflammatory because of seed oils. They're like, well, potato chips are really bad for me because I have digestive issues with them. Okay, and fucking peanuts will kill a ton of people. Does that make them bad overall? Like, what are we talking about? What is going on? Like, people, oh, it's actually bad for people who have like IBS or PC or these things. Like, okay, yeah, sure. But that what does that make it a bad food? What are we talking about?

SPEAKER_01

I think people just have this desire to be correct. They just want to be right about something.

SPEAKER_04

Holy shit. You're so it's so true. Just like, I want to, even if it's the most mundane bullshit thing, like the fruits versus vegetables. I just want to be right. I want to be right so bad, and I want to talk about me, and I want to tell you why I'm right about me. And like, that's it. That's what people want. If you can give them that like that.

SPEAKER_01

That's what Instagram comments section was created for.

SPEAKER_04

For holy shit. God damn. I can't even look at it. Like, I post something, I'll check after like 15 minutes, never check again. Like, I can't deal with that shit. There's too much bullshit.

SPEAKER_01

80% bullshit.

SPEAKER_04

80% bullshit. If somebody doesn't like something bullshit.

SPEAKER_06

Your advice is just leave it out. Fucking leave it out. Like, what would be your advice, Michael? My advice would be the same as Danny's advice, which would just be if you don't like it, leave it out. Find an alternative. There is not one single right way to do this. It is what works for you long term. You can have the perfect diet for a week and it won't matter, or you can half-ass it for the rest of your life and live a pretty good life.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, exactly. Damn. Like people, like I get all the time, how do I eat healthy if I don't like blank? And there's like beans or dare, or I can't eat dairy, I can't eat uh yogurt. Here you go. You don't eat that thing. That's what you do. You eat other things. Which things? I don't know what you like, Emily. You have to figure that out for yourself, okay?

SPEAKER_07

So what you're gonna do to the grocery store and walk up and down the aisle and say, Oh, I'd like to eat that. That's yeah, you could do that.

SPEAKER_04

You can okay, so there's this new site called Google. So what you do is you go on it and you say recipes with and then the thing you like, and you're gonna get eight gazillion recipes. Pick one of those and make it. Oh, it doesn't have a thing, it has a thing you don't like, it has cilantro. Fucking leave it out. It's not that complicated. Oh my god, it's just exhausting. That's how I feel. Anyway, how y'all doing?

Leave It Out And Move On

SPEAKER_07

I think I think Liam's ranting was so loud that his computer auto-gained him down, and now he's like super quiet.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, whatever. I'm it's you it's it's based on my anger. My my loudness is based on my anger.

SPEAKER_06

We're about to get a manifesto from Liam in a shack in the woods.

SPEAKER_04

Gosh, I'm gonna write it with my.

SPEAKER_07

When it suddenly sounds like Liam's audio is really weird, it's because I have to jack it up at this point. Fine.

SPEAKER_04

I will add that to my manifesto, Rob. Oh, I get loud sometimes, written in blood with peanuts. Fucking goddamn. Just fucking stop making it so complicated and just eat shit.

SPEAKER_06

Fuck my God. When they when they rebuilt Ted Kaczynski's shack in that exhibit, you can see the place where he was sleeping next to the wall, and there's like a uh an outline of his body there from where he was, because he didn't shower in there either. And that's what we're gonna see from Liam in his manifesto shack. Right outside on the wall.

SPEAKER_04

Right outside the shack is the DeLorean. He spent all of his money on the DeLorean, and now he's living in a shack writing a manifesto.

SPEAKER_06

It's like he's living in a wooden shack with a with a$250,000 car next to it.

SPEAKER_04

Fucking worth it, bro. Best decision I've ever made. Oh shit. Fucking don't comp why complicated so much. Just eat the food you like, add some extra shit. I don't know. Like you're like, oh, I need to add protein to things. Then have a rotisserie chicken on hand at all times. I don't fucking know. Have other things that have protein in them. Whatever. Just add it. Stop worrying so much about everything. Oh, this has this in it. Oh my god, the amount of times you see that shit. Uh-oh, it's got fucking sodium triphosphate. Fuck me. You might as well just throw it out in the trash then. God damn. Just food. Oh.

SPEAKER_01

It's exhausting.

SPEAKER_04

It's exhausting. It's exhausting.

SPEAKER_06

Well, it's I think it's just got a lot to do with with the internet disinformation. Like, I had a friend who was showing me like they're on a health kick and they were like, hey, I've got the the these mixed nuts, which some of them are not actually nuts, but um there were like four or five different types of nuts in there, and they had seasoning on them, but they're like, I'm just kind of concerned because there's a lot of ingredients on the city.

SPEAKER_04

I know right all the logic.

SPEAKER_06

Well, here's the thing though. I said I will I I I want to like quell your frustration with this thing. So I had them send me the the back of the thing, and I'm looking at it, I zoom in, they've got a different ingredient list for each nut that's in there. Yeah, and each of them has um like you know 10 or 12 different spices on them, but they have to list like onion powder for each one. For each of them, so it makes the list look really dense, but it's it's just spices. It's stuff that you would find in your spice cabinet, but because people are counting instead of reading, we're trained to believe, like, well, this is bad because there's a lot of words back here. It's it's spices. We're not even reading.

SPEAKER_04

I'm about to just start like my videos with just like a bag of sugar and be like, it's got one ingredient. Just one, just sugar.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Short ingredients.

SPEAKER_06

Are you guys familiar with uh the the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide?

SPEAKER_04

Oh, I hear it could be used for all kinds of shit. I hear it's in Lysol.

SPEAKER_07

There are 13 ingredients in my pistachios.

SPEAKER_04

Just alone. That's it. Oh, soft.

SPEAKER_06

Daddy doesn't care about ingredients.

SPEAKER_03

Exactly.

SPEAKER_04

That's the way to live.

SPEAKER_01

That's the way to not stress out. That's the whole point of my page, is just to show people like you don't have to stress out about that. Is when people people go nuts about preservatives.

SPEAKER_00

Oh god.

SPEAKER_01

Preservatives is what's keeping your food shelf stable and safe for you to eat.

SPEAKER_04

So you're telling me you like mold is when you tell me you don't like preservatives. You're telling me you prefer to eat things with mold. Okay, cool thing. Cool, cool story. Fucking a lot of things.

SPEAKER_06

Are they are they not objected?

SPEAKER_07

That is a preservative.

SPEAKER_04

That is a preservative? Slows down the citric acid. You know what that comes from? Uh oh. Oh. Fucking Christ, man.

SPEAKER_07

That's how I feel. I'm gonna eat a wood. Tell us more about how you feel.

SPEAKER_04

That's what this podcast is. That's in the 80% bullshit. It's just me yelling about how I feel and how frustrated I am with all these fucking with all the people running around grocery stores. Oh, did you?

SPEAKER_07

I feel like it's actually been quite a few episodes since we've had a good uh Liam yelling rant.

SPEAKER_04

The fucking Oh my god, for sure. Let's keep going. When they're like, oh, it doesn't say ice cream on it. Um it doesn't say ice cream, so it's not ice cream. Okay, fucking Janet, it's uh frozen dairy dessert. Who gives a shit? It's still oh my god. I They can't even legally call it ice cream. Okay, my Pringles aren't. It's a drumstick! Shut up, John. What the fuck?

SPEAKER_05

It's a fucking drumstick!

Preservatives And Ingredient List Panic

SPEAKER_04

Like it's like they have rules on what they can call things and what aren't those things and what are other things, but who gives a shit? It's all oh Danny. This is your opportunity to shout angrily about what anything, whatever you got, whatever you preservatives, yell about that. Who gives uh it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_01

I'm not a very hateful person.

SPEAKER_04

That's a problem. You need to be more hateful. Have you ever heard of the Sith?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

So I'm gonna I'm gonna need you to channel them a little bit more, embrace the hate and come at us, okay?

SPEAKER_01

But I'm all about embracing the love.

SPEAKER_04

Uh well, this for this one time, set that shit to the side, let the hate flow through you, and hit us with something. Anything. You just said preservatives. That pisses you off. There's gotta be other things.

SPEAKER_01

Well, it does piss me off. There you go.

SPEAKER_06

Oh, gimme, come on, let's you hate that some companies will come out with versions of things that you like and then take them away. There you go.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, you know what? That piss you know what else pisses me off? There you go. They don't they don't take it away, they put change the recipe. Oh, yeah. Because it's they make something so perfect, and then like, oh, we changed the recipe to make it better, and then it tastes like shit, and you can just tell. You can just tell that they changed it and it's not the same. Or when they go and they change the ingredients, cheapen the ingredients or something.

SPEAKER_07

Probably make because it's cheaper.

SPEAKER_01

Actually, I can think of something that pissed me off. Real good chicken. Okay, when they went and they changed their chicken.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That made me so mad.

SPEAKER_06

They changed the macros because there were people non weight loss people that were like, chicken doesn't taste very good, which first off is wrong. It it was perfectly fine, but they're like, oh, you need to be so they added a bunch more fat to it, and now the macros are just like normal.

SPEAKER_01

It was perfect, and now it's It's not.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. And it comes down to them. Like, we need to sell more, so we need to reach a wider audience, so we gotta do this.

SPEAKER_06

It's still good. It's just I don't think it's real good chicken. I think it's just good chicken.

SPEAKER_04

Have you tried just bear? What is it? Like just I think it's just bear. That's pretty good.

SPEAKER_06

That's usually right next to it.

SPEAKER_04

I go we go with that.

SPEAKER_01

Go with that.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, there's no reason to have the real good chicken anymore because it's it's not because it's not real good.

SPEAKER_01

It's real average.

SPEAKER_06

It's real average chicken. The real average. Change your branding real good. We're losing that speed.

SPEAKER_04

We'd change from real good to real average. That'd be a fucking ball or move. And I would buy from them just based off that if they did.

SPEAKER_01

People love authenticity.

SPEAKER_04

If yeah, if they like downgraded and they were just like, Yeah, we're no longer real good, we're real average. I'd be like, I'm buying it. We don't own it. I I love it. I love that you're fucking embracing it. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_06

What do you do for chicken now for those people out there that are looking for like an easy pre-made chicken? Because you're you're not cooking a lot, you're just kind of throwing stuff together. Yeah, but I think that that's a big benefit for a lot of people. They're like, I don't want to cook. So like they could go to your page and find out how to not do that. How are you?

Easy Protein Shortcuts That Work

SPEAKER_01

The Tyson, it's like the grilled, it's like the grilled chicken bites. It kind of reminds me of the ones that you get from like Chick-fil-A, like the grilled chicken, except it's just frozen. I keep it in my freezer. It's very easy. I don't like cooking chicken. I don't like touching raw meat.

SPEAKER_04

I am with you on that. Then you put it on your cutting board, and then you gotta like really like clean. You gotta fuck it. Yeah, I don't like that. I don't like it.

SPEAKER_01

I'd rather not eat at that point.

unknown

Just not eat anything.

SPEAKER_04

Like you just throw the cutting board out, like all the whole thing, just toss it in the trash, like I'm done. Fuck this. Yeah. I wouldn't even blame you doing anymore.

SPEAKER_06

What other uh what other pre-made, easy things do you think could save some people time in the kitchen?

SPEAKER_01

Um, just kind of like different pre-made proteins, like in general, like pre-made proteins. That's kind of the like the way that I build my meals, just like pre-made foundations for things, like pre-frozen proteins, the breads, like the keto breads and the low carb wraps, like frozen fruit, or even just like pre-cut onions. I have ADHD. I'm not cutting an onion. If I buy an onion, even though it's cheaper, it will sit in my refrigerator and it's gonna go bad and I'm not gonna touch it.

SPEAKER_04

Yep. They have like frozen, pre-chopped like frozen onions. So grab those. Good enough.

SPEAKER_01

They freeze onions?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, they're pre-chopped, they're chopped frozen onions.

SPEAKER_01

I've never preservative.

SPEAKER_04

So is my dried mango, but I'm almost out.

SPEAKER_06

Freezing is a preservative. If you freeze something, you're preserving it, and therefore you're gonna be.

SPEAKER_04

Guys, what's your favorite preservative? Uh, I'm gonna go with I I'm probably gonna go with the thing that black mold comes from. That's probably what I'm gonna go with because it comes from something else that also makes people freak out. I like that.

SPEAKER_06

I like that too. Big fan of added nitrates.

SPEAKER_04

I like the things that cause COVID cancer. Yes, please give me more.

SPEAKER_06

I buy shakers of nitrates and I just put it on all of my food. You know, like if you can make the food last longer, it'll make me last longer.

SPEAKER_04

Right. You know how so okay, so I got one. You know how like us people uh freak out about cellulose and grated cheese. I just buy cellulose and just dump that shit on my food. I'm like, yeah, give me more of that shit. Fucking y'all don't worry about it. Not even, it's not even cheese. I just got a fucking taco, and I'm like, boom, that's fucking cellulose and the fiber.

SPEAKER_06

Just pure grit.

SPEAKER_04

I leave the cheese, just the cellulose. So you know how like they wash the cellulose off the cheese, and then what's left is that cloudy stuff? Yeah, I just drink that. So I just throw away the cheese and I just drink the cloudy cellulose water.

SPEAKER_06

There are people that'll listen to this. The same people that make like hate videos on Jacob foods will be hearing this and go, they're serious, they're being real. Shout out Jacob.

SPEAKER_04

I would love if they did. That would be amazing.

SPEAKER_06

He's got the craziest haters in the world.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah, he does.

SPEAKER_06

I don't know how the most insane people.

SPEAKER_04

I'm not gonna say completely, I don't know how, because he really he tried to attack them head on, which is not which is dangerous. When you really go after them, they have again, they have I told it when he came on, they have nothing better to do, they have nothing going on in their lives. So they will make their entire life about making your life as frustrating as possible. So when you do that, you're playing a dangerous game. Whereas I just kind of laugh about it and go, yeah, sure, uh-oh, soylence, uh, oh well, and then just move on. Like, whatever, who gives a shit? That's the problem.

SPEAKER_06

What's your favorite seed oil?

SPEAKER_01

What?

SPEAKER_06

Oh, sorry, what were you saying?

SPEAKER_01

I was gonna say that's why I respond to everyone with love and not hate. Because it deters them and they're just like, oh wow, I'm not getting anything out of this. And then they leave.

SPEAKER_03

That's fair.

SPEAKER_06

And they leave. That's it. What's more anabolic than trolls leaving? That's how we do this.

SPEAKER_04

Favorite uh seed oil, rapeseed. I'm gonna go with rapeseed.

SPEAKER_06

Is that technically a seed?

SPEAKER_07

I'm gonna have to go with uh the Canadian variant of a rapeseed, canola.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it's I mean, isn't it the same thing? But I like I like rapeseed because it makes people go, what was that first word? The fuck are you talking about? Because a lot of people don't know that it's called rapeseed.

SPEAKER_07

Right.

SPEAKER_04

I'm like, what? They're like, no, that's just canola oil. But you can understand why they changed the name. You can you could probably guess why they were like, yeah, let's not go with that.

unknown

What about peanut oil?

SPEAKER_04

Is that a seed? Well, peanuts are legumes. We just went over this, Mike.

SPEAKER_06

Are legumes seeds? They're legumes.

SPEAKER_04

Hey, Siri, is a legume a seed? Am I a botanist? I don't know what the fuck's going on. Okay. I know they're legumes. Hey, you read. It's just Siri's like, you fucking read this thing.

SPEAKER_06

It just brought me to the Wikipedia page for legumes. This isn't gonna help me. I want my answers quick. ChatGPT wouldn't have done this to me.

SPEAKER_04

Thank you, AI overlords.

SPEAKER_06

I appreciate you. That's what I want. Is a peanut a seed? Yes, peanuts are legally and botanic. So first they mentioned legally peanuts are legally and botanically classified as seeds, specifically edible legumes related to beans, lentils, and peas, rather than true tree nuts. So they are classified legally as seeds.

SPEAKER_01

What is the legal stipulation of that?

SPEAKER_06

You get in trouble if you say it's not.

SPEAKER_04

So all so all legumes are seed. I just know they're legumes. Like, oh, lentils, peas, beans. That's what I got. Tasty.

SPEAKER_06

So I'll say peanut oil then is because it's my favorite seed oil.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that's fair. That's a good one. That's what five guys fries, they're fries in. That's just that's one of my favorites.

SPEAKER_06

They do, it makes everything taste good. I'm not a big fan of canola oil. Now I want fries.

SPEAKER_04

I boob boob boob. Fries are like one of my fucking favorites. I get to eat those every single day.

SPEAKER_07

Potatoes are the greatest thing.

SPEAKER_04

Potatoes are so fucking good. They don't get, I mean, people talk about how great they are, they still don't get enough. They don't get enough recognition.

SPEAKER_06

You can still have potatoes and lose weight. In fact, they're very associating. They're very filling. You should have it. Potatoes, uh, while they are not seeds. I don't think. Hold on.

SPEAKER_04

No, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_06

A potato is not a true seed, but rather an underground storage stem known as a tuber. Tubers. Well, called seed potatoes, they're actually clones used for planting. Um, don't say you never learned anything on inmoderation. True potato seeds exist but are found inside small toxic green fruits. Okay. Really? Where do we get those? Where do we get those fruits?

SPEAKER_04

I just remember that like the way they made potatoes popular is they planted them in like the king's garden and they told no everybody, no, you can't have these. And they told the guards to just protect them in the way that if people bribe them, then just take the bribe or let people in and they would go and steal them. And then people started eating potatoes. It's basically just like, no, you can't have this, and they're like, We want that, and that's how they really became popular, at least in like England. Oh, interesting. Reverse psychology, bitches. You can't have this. Now we want it.

SPEAKER_06

No one is allowed to listen to in moderation. We're gonna have guards protect it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, exactly. No one's allowed to we should make this like fucking, yeah. You can't you can't listen. What was it? I think there was another what was that? It was like a theme park that did that. I don't remember. No, that was an episode of South Park. Well, that was that was fucking episode. One person's allowed in the where fucking uh Cartman opened up uh uh police park and said like no one could come in and everyone wanted to come in. Then he had to let one person in because the rides were breaking, and then he had to let another person in for the ticket teller, and then he had to let another person in for this, and before you know it, it was like a thriving park. Yeah, that's what it was. So I'm like, wait, I remember this from something fucking self-that's where my brain goes.

Where To Find Danny And Support

SPEAKER_06

So this is a working model. Um, Danny, you know, we probably shouldn't tell anybody where to find you because you know we don't want people getting uh you know getting uh uh getting a big head. But you know, uh let's let's be kind for a second and let's maybe just let a few people. Except to the audience.

SPEAKER_07

Audience, you are not allowed to follow Danny.

SPEAKER_06

You are not allowed to follow Danny at this exact location on Instagram. Danny, where can they find you?

SPEAKER_01

Danny Dino Milk.

SPEAKER_06

It was at Danny Dino Milk.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's my username on quite literally everything.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You just all my stuff will come up.

SPEAKER_06

You've got a Discord page now.

SPEAKER_01

I do. I made it yesterday, and I was actually so surprised. It's almost got like 90 people in there already. Nice even like a full 24 hours. People are actually in there, they're talking to each other, they're making friends. It makes me so happy.

SPEAKER_06

You are also gonna come out with a cookbook here soon.

unknown

Yes.

SPEAKER_06

But we're we're working on it, and uh because I I think your message of simplicity needs to be out there. So I'm gonna continue to encourage you to do this.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you.

SPEAKER_06

Do you have any any final thoughts for people who might be embarking on a journey or they might be stuck on their journey? What would you tell them?

SPEAKER_01

I would tell them just to keep going and that it's not impossible. I feel like a lot of people they don't want to start because they think that they can't do it. But at the end of the day, like I lost 120 pounds, and I'm just some guy special about me. I don't know what I'm doing. I really don't know what I'm doing. I'm just here. I started making videos on the internet, and now I'm here.

SPEAKER_06

None of us are special, we just did stuff.

SPEAKER_04

That's how we started, and look at us now talking about buying a DeLorean. It really shows you with nothing, you can stay you can remain nothing.

SPEAKER_01

You never know. And someday you may raise enough money to get it.

SPEAKER_06

Exactly. Go to the in moderation Patreon, I think. Where are we funneling people?

unknown

Where do they go?

SPEAKER_07

Um shit. Send money to Liam care of in moderation. Yes. Also, Liam, Liam, before we stop, um somebody has a personal message for you.

SPEAKER_03

Oh yeah?

SPEAKER_07

Is it a threat? Maui jam wants to say fuck you for always having code red zero available.

SPEAKER_04

People are fucking mad about that shit. And you know what? You should be. You guys suck. Guess who's got all the code red in his basement?