סינמה שו״ת פרק 37: בועז יהונתן יעקב – הצלם שחזר בתשובה ומאמין שקולנוע הוא כלי לחיות דרכו את החיים

בועז יהונתן יעקב, צלם ובמאי מהבולטים בקולנוע ובטלוויזיה הישראלית, מתארח בפרק ה 37 של סינמה שו״ת לשיחה עם אבי לודמיר על הדרך הארוכה שעבר בין סטים של קולנוע, משבר אישי וחזרה בתשובה, אל עשרות סרטים וסדרות שצילם לאורך השנים.
יעקב מספר על הילדות בתוך תעשיית הקולנוע כבן למפיק רוני יעקב, על השנים הראשונות על סטים ועל הניסיון להגשים את החלום בהוליווד. הוא מדבר בכנות על האכזבה הגדולה שחווה שם, על המשבר שהוביל אותו להתרחק מהקולנוע, ועל הדרך שבה מצא מחדש את המצלמה כחלק מתהליך רוחני ואישי עמוק.
בשיחה חזרנו לעבודותיו כצלם על סרטים כמו חופשת קיץ של דוד וולך, על העבודה רבת השנים עם יוסי מדמוני ועל הסרט גאולה שכתב וביים יחד איתו. יעקב מספר גם על העבודה על הסרט פרה אדומה של ציביה ברקאי יעקב, שם גם הכיר את אשתו, ועל המתח המעניין בין חיים דתיים לבין עבודה על סטים של קולנוע וטלוויזיה.
דיברנו גם על היחסים בין במאי לצלם, על הצורך של צלם להצטרף לעולמו הרגשי של הבמאי, על האגו והפגיעות שמלווים את העבודה בתעשייה, ועל הדרך שבה יצירה קולנועית יכולה להפוך למקום של חיפוש אישי.
שיחה עמוקה וכנה עם יוצר שמאמין שקולנוע הוא לא רק מקצוע אלא דרך לנשום, לחשוב ולהמשיך לחפש משמעות בתוך החיים.

Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:04

Shalomabination Podcast Akonomi betata for Game and Yavanakla Mamaiva Salam Body Mataniak. What Shalom? Shalom, Salam Baba Mai.

SPEAKER_02 0:14

Salam Baba Zulat Moshani Long. As loud as me as an exapotation.

SPEAKER_01 2:57

Aval Aval?

SPEAKER_02 3:15

Blaumlichazot, Salak Shabati, Mif Taionatan, Alaaka, Sotim Alochavata Fakotkin? Ken Kamayulo.

SPEAKER_01 4:42

BMET.

SPEAKER_02 4:51

Frame Rishon is a kissekether plastic, Bachatoshlanu, M is a Pesel Kazafrika, Shlivi, frame, to film shelma. Pitum A vodazatim Regish, I tell you, Marshus, the Begil Shwe, Pitom Kilmatril Kabel Tushot Modmode, the Lop Shutabite. But the Rabichuva begil in Khamesh. Pito Machomaz, the core, Maturaf, Mphinati. Kilulo.

SPEAKER_00 11:43

Akzava.

SPEAKER_02 11:49

Shaftitzyati, Katavti Shirim, Mishanti, Kilulo. Khazatila Aarh, the Gampola Matatitzmi, Gautitil Khazim kazaiti or the Mayba Kodesh, Kedesheli, Tada, Takat Kesf the Latkofashati Talamikhasit Mavtiakh, Kilumatseirim. Afghagam no da I kill the berity. Atibeketash's have its of a kolvilashirga forim can shoot killu ni retlotov. I omni gammar gishkacha.

SPEAKER_00 12:33

Aval the law to the callashira for rim, shrach rayutka.

SPEAKER_02 12:42

The gamlo pitar only rim kahaga meshavadi prenatika vana with the besedoshi and your kaha, with the besedo sh the koevli, the besedo shirti rakshaho, call befedova collegi unibushutish malasottimze. Tipus mod mozivoni, me givatolga, shabitali shelchuva. Not khazak. Khalakmiza, jagam la khnis la metsyut shenikra etashem. Kiltoha mezjuthila shalakyum lachniseloim, badish of siba sha dvarasha choreze. Sha ni margish the vodka la vod betoma, bet zalamba tkalabezul pan kaze matzlimatul pan veroed kilo. Barued be al gashashta khzala thilit sodin oxha to dai shav, vit nav itnav nulashillim, vumathil kazalachhat mi kadash l'atlat thezati lats mehat mit vod l'atlat, odmashu vodmashua z iftamidsumitrilanya tfli no merlilo, tlotsaris be ma odlo. Kilumazu merli odlofsimutam bishaw, malbishimotam, z orkimutam la chupa, callakavila merli odlo, bidava devantiza nuano codem cole to daxtawez mango. Mango katania rock. Mango, the mango vlud lobashil, kerzman, benartson, shimufia bishnia, la seit, a gashmit la giailemashta lo kerzman. A chakha nkva to dani. Kolozman ofed, the kolosman mitzelem, gamayam speakham, to dalishmoti me uzan, velo kitsuni. Vanihad varim mtarmu kadlasheni. Karef the khabad, as cola dibu all, the cell, the hochek, the colosman, kilo metasakitamba vodagam. Abe pimetalem sena, sena khba the mashushela matikama mim lifneze, veli auto to korebatoha can you dead with the beso.

SPEAKER_01 16:11

Kilo, khava khanit mama.

SPEAKER_02 16:15

Ken, can the bichlal called the vadash n Krayong Zilum. We call the Vadish nikraser, the matribe to votal Beshachol Nyarla van, the amurbasofliot, mashut sivoni, the such mirage, the next call pa mechadash. Afro lechola z Tiachleha, sofia gish, mashim de brim, sha mourla gish bez banatasrit. The gamium tzilumba ts no, the me bad is lavatalomet bezmanim. Pitomni shalcha. Sha'va khetzi le sena katarta tzerik shaloshaut, ki rom shanha monichel sachani kha. Okay, and you said the bezmanazen, if the duminase, be metaval. Pitom Biglash Kapahotzman be prima pito mweet etzimaine, terbe verrou, etzimayanan shelasena. Pitomstoreta etimbofny terbao, khapa chodzman, et khayav. Achocheval l'etzelemuta ou levayemota offen chouchonami machitichnanta. Avoul beuter memukad, beuter bahir, batim kolla zivel ou taleman chou chelora italifne. Avezba mikroazer behazekta emuna.

SPEAKER_01 17:50

Kakal faho zbemetem emuna taim adamdatin a kon kipa thomere vote.

SPEAKER_02 17:59

Kilubitohba gamany vertalichim.

SPEAKER_01 18:12

Talichelavana, talich shel matovlicha.

SPEAKER_02 18:15

Kolozman to dagumgum anishafum horimem horim achem strimi naulam. Todah, the law and and and andikudat mutatsa.

SPEAKER_01 18:30

Mm nama the maradam. Nah, and motsa. Okay. Okay, metlachema miktoimbondavere metalemfedavan be metamun satimamont, the money shamun senotemasha m salem eromedri mere de metra beimadatalem kazeva. Kulush ked the shum mirava shatomerza vudashli the mashamatikla thought and seven ka. Tire tagamtagamniki the mudalosh katakata thing metama mulyo that tagamomer echla irta tena zot yesh b perushi becovem comot evenahon shakatuv zemasula lev kill.

SPEAKER_02 19:36

Benadam, benomashinikalibenakalo, la dat ifobemeta leflomunakilumitvot me fyamot. Sha teril khati mafir ofenashimov of fenashimhal kvarim. A to m erlo regalat'uro a so fenashim gvarim aknashim, l'hai gionikilo. As mofir offenashim. Asubai, holushuma tali, holichuhoshovanam kha matha. A vada ka bana bokat'ma. Kilom dimbo todab, baby kolega bakhov becominam commote. A you gas tia today um paradouma kilou backup. Aval avval tire, quandimala fet's. The me vigat kulam the law loko today. Today, uh kilometre. The gumbote, tmunami, uh mala khava, take a fish, ma'am.

SPEAKER_01 26:55

David Bidoukba Fuch.

SPEAKER_02 27:08

As a baker, but she route le ramle. You read but so much, Michael Megia Baita. She'm shito, Modmo de Mukha, Shabada Villa Maloit Khatanti, Achulonifta, Kioma Shali Havanafish, Damilet or Lamaric Shisheli. A Karen Otloid Kablan Yoshev. Ken, Ken, the Gashna. Lobala Sotkol Noah, Velokol Noani, Veloze, Bahua Shibai Masipu Khaimsla, Bahovenahitzanua, Bachi Pashud, Vahyanav, the Samoto La Shul Khan. The La Hashuvla Bitokolu, the Hashula Gamba Kol Noa Nit, Avalkilu, the the Kmashe Gula the Levina Bahhaim Shli Blikel, the Gama Khaliot At Saga, or Rikud Maholo, and Lodam Azalom Shane, the Levina Bahhaimsli mulat'mi. They are chad kol no. As para duma z gam the the as you pura metorafekilu para duma zeserat kilu daltak. Kilu sidra khamishimyom kesef male, behalom ishtavek ad mulasheni. Lo when he be khovot, nikola khaim shli, theyosef khavj lifnessaravati pulimfouim, vanikilubot. Vaza mati, okay, yeshta seret chila, maulot od seret im kilukomajit kait kazu childri, shna feature him, yet sim pachot masidra, velps, maddi faschna fechure him. Baz no bha vaza mo slich kilu kilchna sotim, sa gardina kwahul kil lagidla. Avalma vize mati chmu the kes of batuah the keran zelo the fertasheni a combat kai chiletri nachnu bayom machinishly so location puton bam fika before me chmu a seret butal ashka. Makara, makara, a kern is right a khilain bamay kher, shelahola sorted lifouba mai, a kara ma sha tahlafa, khavila lotofesta detective telephone, khapesta, tome raviram, channy panoui. Shata gelui shamat, the bay m shavli dofakha vele kapezoto. Kilubaseratazi. Soyamakhez andi megaleshima stilo misparalo z minalishparim shelo, al mispara khlo pail, but si mas tila lopail. Imatim samaslam ispara pail, chiloim. Shilan mishatnim, velali ladim, ve, ve, ve, ve, ve, ve. Asakkafto hadam is para alonachon.

SPEAKER_01 37:31

Bodionataniakov.

SPEAKER_02 37:32

Lolo khoshev.

SPEAKER_01 37:36

Yomashlama kivaltata muslama, yamashlama. A the kmata shambeme karta istekati m sneiladim, snibi maim, babait salamikand, and the dimilhulamakolna, matakose. Kata de lam shikma thuit me sabba, lodafkamathochilha. Lodia. Neorimkol no anim.

SPEAKER_02 38:01

Tire and and and and of the masuhfutam rakashavim majiti beref basudoshil uh shell shall mil m kilubalat sulumim, shnaem, yveti colo hadbanifad came bayahadem shtenin jot. Kilohad baitiomhad shalem levad, la vin mazh, bayom shalem levad Lavin Mazai, butaveti sne, bayachab muslisi, tobsul fit the biomorishon anilo ithovovitsra mehovenetomasu um gamabusli lodakovti mabuslati to amon. Mon bavo daj love the a beta godol mitsayer kahabe ofinura a mok lodia.

SPEAKER_01 38:54

It's it's mumanim, yeah, me kelexalomalo to sick. Giula, theret, it's a theret feature book malia, cut them the money, t'silum are besharim shelfimvet the rote, kilumamatha, be shalavamatra, ega man shelto the threat, gea the matrigamba, the loni racul ka ma com shata nimb sabu ki the rocket uh benadam that tiva to vet betsilum lumata alilash la giboraci betzemarimo to balkohol yot zamar.

SPEAKER_02 39:24

Avalvet kolatali. And ani anilok benadam she bekolma se bahaim shelo, lokka dam leshi mach shavau et l'abtout ou shmiash el shne kolot mod mod kilominugadim. I thought my sem, the lama s talo shuma kolot minugadim. A nicolasman shemati kolot minugadim. A nicolasman khaitani godima umrima la kadosh bahu shek. Bon, et m'ik ki luk tanim keer. Kilumemotragibo a kolotomenu gadim mitnagimbu karega, the kedesh drama v serret. Avalem serat aseshu sofaz of sipuriga dolim the appiente kazenab barou, she machin if ta sipuri, usaf mistakel pitom kadima la offek the michaer kiluhiuk katan, walak bikwo kolmashu avar, p tom mistakel, akadimashila khaim sh look tatakherit. Usaf katana valsi ba shaim shlanu voyom yom shlanu kilumukavomi e wim grandiosim. Umani sh'acta big vote ayeka shel shuly rand. Kilo disco the balpamish money shav the chilšuli, the shrim and sheladam shuhrediv sheloemashlo dosim, a zera risol d'mut sebe a fakimasipu kstakilu nzabekabad kolegia' gioula u kolazman ba ba ba front ma savala al-t gula y marshavayom yomit. She is gula, she's a gula elda, she khula, albeishof you amikula. She me kabera tarbatamila ziluta kilo firuta civita elementi, basi po umak the batim yossi, but metilo about it all stemasha vot him shulim.

SPEAKER_01 43:48

Shakad Uamarikamanik Motetta Balbamot kept it, Ulobete mean shake the Babatomelo yes kept the boni lecalve.

SPEAKER_02 44:06

But synopsis today no blues. But him chah to dash nihtime hat. Mamati boaz and hat milashim. The shelot sachelaktakyhlo termishniot the bayashilha. Shenaktahyukh's man. Kizha berbema choreze. As pitum katafita senazo dwodmash, pitoma admut the kabelseva shulok mobas synopsis kohav oklishavar, the noa khitsuni. The latlates khat se no chamashlimotamanin is gashim pambaka machodashim, the brimal nuswodmuyot pitom tobijmalachimbasipu, ve si mod moda shigi kill Yosef Havash the Holofali Baza altivaimiz elevad. Yosef ayah damhaim si la moto adam meforak mi prenataim shelo, ken. Shelly. She zelo shoot. Avalnich uh better his got a cashier.

SPEAKER_01 47:25

Gamtilam to the matter for mechalamakher ma cash.

SPEAKER_02 47:39

Yeshua but silum se corellier benchbo akla tort the mim cut me show often. When you say butra courte baset vesha mashure pitom ba madha pitom toreta senna mash kuret baset yeshmashu barega, la datalifne. Attakensla kirta sena k shit velit kunenele location, sh gum kheti ma shooting location in the khalon, gadol, ketomerasena that yes silhouette, swarfita khata mi prata shooting.

unknown 48:51

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 48:51

Orem, ava la akha sofiti ko and bachetak the aboto kashelet bachet me masusha shekachha zit lyot kiluma shelavok, katsilavush, vilagi okay, khalom ni bhata hul tabut sevazeki zemashematim. The the gam masus uhimketahulagid them. Bishna team shit gambe ma combeganed and the gambe uh, be fiddlman I shooting katuvla gamway, shasin we's menuhant sah botozman la dad villa dad, bich vilish more naki, shit mashov kura bachetah. Beto mash the be me at lomashekhashav za shiz, butam separat mhashov dachamatzmiha, she betwe metarwa ataru, et mashikat sita, the bit mashesh bacheth. A velathashavit Bashet, Vil Natla Vim mazeken beto kula lachatchil set, atalos to betem seed. Azheli toda kasheli smo shani but's me, lordemulh liadbed shofen. Azadim yosigam toda za no beachad. The gumbe ma kombeganed because he di barno asset. Keep so fosh the varana khun kirimata senod the brima la short on him friend, the him kiluya siloma mila siman sh the sababa. Aval bekoshi di barno set ma combeganedin.

SPEAKER_01 50:45

Achimeduyakimi prenate esthetica with the gam sino to me odd mod ksa mod mod me duyak uod the me odmair, me odd mod.

SPEAKER_02 50:58

And he has to kilo kilukashimetia ulo notenchair, ulo n z man in shum. Avalgama shot him millimetre shelhofesh live hoal matam mister kale. Kilo to fest khabatsava, mecha the po. Kh so fashabem to futo batsavar the holdo naim kilo, and holo vina. Um as as um as a tillum the mashush ktkashelim so. Ihm bezatashemitela sort about him tivashoto beachad. Shatemte baimu, tihtevo te baimobehad aktiva yesh kilumashav sh uhtioto at kilhubokulo. The tivektenih nisar shov uhsifad zoinktanim. Vimu kabelaktivnasotohni behadal set.

SPEAKER_01 51:57

Velata'selem? Anitalem Ah the barotihim kilun behadelaset as an youh gametlemoto vanuamuna mundvari manino dadga manino tibovini, erdo vetbemeta vodashilba mive vetsanam kilo. Ech the core attack varamatasemitkashimha tivasita on the kafia holobeny wuda. Bete la vive vema core efmatrila talih, bede yesli fenisha termuga, mim kameros andha thought that the attach booktim shatomerlo, ebemmet matrila vodado chilha before other set.

SPEAKER_02 52:34

Tirecma vodoto simutra, vzata, halekma vodotimutra'goshim oramim the noa kilumishhtone to dashashelbait mozug. Bama vitalanzi is ugut rig shit. Ketim collasman kilumita scheme befanyah regish viletargemutu meata street la lamasah.

SPEAKER_01 53:18

Kilubedez, I've tanich nasa project lifnat silumim?

SPEAKER_02 53:23

But ifn't silumim ka mahhodashim ka's. Yes, but my kessel, my odd, my odd, my odd, my own, my oath, some of the other. Yo, see um what pum?

SPEAKER_01 53:41

Mao the gori.

SPEAKER_02 53:42

Um, I'll gam shall never have problem male. She's buyon of the entami ash tam with the lotaim as as me aflovtichlum, the meat and be offen, she na seligum, lemishtae tolling sotutha, od pam, the otpan, the otpan, keta tomehbo, keta kashuvlo, keta mazimoto, ki the kinaimli otitha, ki todah, ki ki the mitsachini famima toda uh the shelakov chelbitavitra negoletim ima Adamsha ta shoef lyot the misha ta karega. Im zeemet olobsaf thewa adamsha shwef lyot, the missionetashtomitne karega, ofekut khalat laat lyota Adamshta shwef ljot. Ba mikzuazo, aszeu intensify behamay no shit, uh shelavara nyumal the to da's natani kli la vodatimbitorbenadam. Aisuka za bikulna. Shu malebe ego, gametli, gamet'lahim, sho durashit mudidut, the holy fkuabenashim, the holi pagamanashim, kolyomala fedze, wow. Badain, kolanashim elashim, kol kakul kah shonim, kol kakul kakh meleim be ego, t'simlafot the varihad beyakad.

SPEAKER_01 55:54

Kufakilu gamamonute, kolegab.

SPEAKER_02 55:56

Baamikiluba dina shofiman yoshiv, belshimakomza kim shel shallk bze.

SPEAKER_01 56:18

Gima be my drak mo rifet, shamash bekesh it, atamagi atta call.

SPEAKER_02 56:23

If it's the last shooting uh vim. Kilubegadol, ma vision mana knownly rot vimata by tire but uh at a feature shallata but gama sidrazo the lorum zorv lotsomet milia, ifam al talihig shooter, to the amok masher be killam zovet miler, colo no youtu. Toda the the kilo mirag de la shimm thought upovisham at shot him beze sofaz the dye in televisor be shuma com killitsare bepa mimi so sh ping pong men smith medium shot him butam nase to da na gidbe gamba kamamani orchamba ofin.

SPEAKER_01 57:13

But ilagida kabamamli masha lomitsulombi halk mofidra televisia shama a mon amon ma bakon no eve shot him framesham fashut poster alakir.

SPEAKER_02 57:26

Tire, cole khma ba fifon, shola karkashema chziko tu. Okay. As Vyesh Edi um Kilutarboots fiya Vyash Edi Muskamot Kale shutash nit meu telefat mashuah to have colozman gamla da la tetla tzufe mustanim bakaka kada shulagidamata de varazekil machaval t'aywa ki be sofoshil the varza uh zolas the gambas to be omet kilumashini katsilumivari khathi. Shot him lowerzman, the shot him shetohasena keto kimeta sena came of rim mit mut led mut to the replicat messuyamotem shne krosimijim shot him shpatimata meter shot, shouldabirod that shot betoka shot. So, the amitohan mos that is the mass low as cachet big lastovers, the oddly what has the rote, the celebs okay they're the thought of the besheck will agid okay, they are the old gum and the man kill chefs shooting shoom forat the games the vowel automid shemashaba, but shefts of the mashitia to akirat mashtawlik letzalem la kiradze, ta to the kh.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:03

Gambit dawa ta ta korit kolata sritin wata, better kol? Better. Better, better.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:14

A viraki okay, olam shta margish, o shela energia, na gidbeshatafidra televizia, the miadiglik mumasu shore midgelgelka ze the key. The mashuba energia, energy text, imut. Um text political, imut, imut, uh text as a metiga, be kuda, shall regish. Shelley, shell the varaz, but specific, kilo, okay, yes, yes, but we call me. Shigama tharig shit, the kilumashutha no anora, kashuviligashotchilha bekhlal. Then should the kiluk molly no khaim. I mean be chaos, the kill the stomachino kayut. The the the the lama lied kol noir, col noir. I mean the the mahvaka lachaim. A kolno po kliu lomata kilumati. Com as the name at la hot, mi prasim, is this a baba kem? Aval Aval codem call the km shakenibala would have the codem call better should be com the parnasa. I mean tell this mizze, and you shall mispace it. Aval very to the baovi the khiki Louis Nivelo Avalanti the codem call as should sinal chayyut. Shanitsarik kilo Bahim shlikal kyot.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:46

Kleve Lomatara, the bet mirashola tilumagea, be mete vidamhavizahim, the mon poektim shakim setot, veryot, khabchovilha, bedvarimuchanim barbeci bot, cle matara, bathin, gam kibalta fera bitulim, kibalta, or bare pasin, vishodamon very bay msek.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:08

Af pamloyali mchshava, almashua kher behmat, la tali tla btut malasot Bahhaim sheli yeshita kilumidrasha the shikhibne salam du bina. Kazot, yfalem kazota ava shamlachul la guidlou ni fwa a olama the ifala kazata ava.