סינמה שו״ת פרק 39: איתי עקירב - המפיק שמסביר איך עושים קולנוע עצמאי

איתי עקירב, מפיק ובמאי מהקולות הבולטים בקולנוע העצמאי בישראל, מתארח בפרק ה 39 של סינמה שו״ת לשיחה עם אבי לודמיר על הדרך הלא שגרתית שלו אל עולם הקולנוע ועל הבחירה לעשות סרטים כאן ועכשיו.
עקירב חוזר להתחלה, מהימים שבהם כתב שירה וניסה לפרוץ כראפר, דרך הלימודים בסם שפיגל והמשבר שחווה בסיום, ועד הכניסה לעולם ההפקה מהדלת האחורית. דיברנו על הסרט אפריקה שנעשה בתקציב זעום והגיע לפסטיבלים בינלאומיים, ועל ההבנה שאפשר לעשות קולנוע גם בלי לחכות למימון גדול.
בשיחה הוא מפרק את המודל של קולנוע עצמאי, מדבר על הפקות מכסף פרטי, על עבודה עם במאים צעירים, ועל ההחלטות הקשות שצריך לקבל כשאין תקציב. דיברנו גם על הסיכון הכלכלי, על פרויקטים שבהם הפסיד כסף לצד כאלה שהצליחו, ועל השאלה מה מניע יוצר להמשיך גם בלי ודאות.
שיחה על יצירה מתוך דחף, על אינדי כדרך חיים, ועל אנשים שלא מצליחים להפסיק לעשות קולנוע גם כשהם מנסים.

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Africa Solorin Greener Suthblishemsela Safasulin Vaodim Shalekhosala thought Raki Meme Fatimat Maimsaw Meteen.

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The Barekashnaad Vremele Yumun Khim evantish kilu olamshimani the moderat still avore rushalaim the avarishola, she tai rushalmit, kilu regashti shani kilutagia, liotnu khla da kidish discoshani kayamba yekum, the amati ani khaw lil mod, bi rushalaim veze shlamti bagruyodzenti la universta, we be makbil, shamati shesh li mudim kayel shkurunemni mude kol noa, besem spiegel, se ma kommod mod ni khshaw, bemet uhisratim betoriele betakhlo ymezeshuu maqshavashemashusha ni rechlasot, or size mashush manienoti lasoto, is a klibi too izani ali kaze mashu mod mod lasot sratim ali botosman kilo zuug ne zugshe uma la kamhavrim shelamdu besem spiegel, bo tozman kazei thalti bezilla kashel metal shh betsem mishi kimtalakani aitiamuri odbetem uh a solana zamar, aval mishi kimtela ka u betem akshel abamaya safkeidan, u ka zamar li ken, chmada berri macheli, ubidiukhasham mesem li mutim besem spiegel, chmami meno ekhze. Top it kesharti le lad, sheleamim sait imnon, shhezhab festival kan, seret serret me odmo seret mechone, kilo seret studenti mechonen, khakhsaate redle mala, kilu shnessel te mimiz safam odmodi khudichen mod mechhubar, valimini khozerega le alpine vishhmona, nikesherle lad, nemerlo shma, and shav Besem Spiegel, ve Bmeshekh e shavachheti, badaw merli chmatkarvla makomze, mati hozera kovai tikunemat slema, waseta sercheli levad, the abizbuzman lasimudima le k shavu gichi ula kreshedze, khugemlocha verimu mashu. Lode muzuhbi kaltas sichazati shinachati alaval u mamash min nisalo ridoti, lil modbsem spiegel, the dafka mi toh kolmashu amarze kze marty, anihabla lechli rotma kore sham. E gati leon patuach, raknich nasti kaze badele chel sem spiegel, because amarty that's me, zeu. Zamakom sheli nir shamti kumwan la la la mifhanim, ve itkabalti, bitsuram od mod maftia, is minuti le la rayon, shaluti ba rayon ehzuhir kilo ez a seret shpialecha, because anyomer, shma, itkunanti le docheli amarlit stakela na shimbay na naim zem od mod marchim kola koladvarim shel ekovrim rayon, lezel lo itkunanti le kandi tsmi le shelazerti paska veri barosh malemale dvarim vas nyomer musarashilumim shelgay mroz be ori featherbush. Ani mousagan. Seret kzebal pine bishhmon seret televizia, akhi lomashushta bale beteferle kolnoa, kmo sem spiegem eze khashivuta tsmit me odmo gdola ve omer shemashimashpiale. Ma martize and lodem tshikota mshuhiza martize betinut abel imahsamiju merli ma shma benadamu long vinbe kolnoa, u lo ekolno, ulodea maze, awel echhu kanire mashu betoha gashasheli and kilueshiza frame shitilamti rebotham targilka z shel letzalem frame mitohhaimshati anti rebot shel abasheli abbshiam kinli abishlin khtarba al paim srim d'mut michonemit bhahaim sheli kmo manimamine kolaba atamidla nikli, we atamid machin ribat enim, let'ilam tizmore, shkumlo Michael Shemtov, more le doko, kolin shurimkele itamluto manutitit, shuri shon, lomdimal tzaiarim, klasim uhukiru, nitfaslat let munazat whenze betem ugamayabada, ramar hevreto. Shanah, sha naf, orbepa miskir tat munazati. Thow, ratila limudim spiegate when he lookant. Kiru uh uh uh uh uh bzukshiff and I get the same speaker, we better share cities which is it's a gatilerus, um those many ktafti shira, the kilo, shana, shonavishnyabalimudim, tarafti kilo, a can't take butsato manim shrimla craim, shivash mona name, kutwim shira, fenzini, tauchod, it khilasotar veshira be moze on Israel, mkhavermodov sheli a mirmen a shelf, shele amimugam arachet sefera shira shoncheli, na khovdin be aha t shaval sefera shira sheni. Um kilu nkhasti lair mitohhez ishu chuka, lyot murvaw be ulamat arbuchela yeer, uh is nahti talimudim. City tata gilim, egal shhi wimpovisham, kazi regasti zelo. Zelow zalo ma sha khalamti. Bakuterman yenoti, uhet khalti mod Balba Universita, uhodvi historia, kaze, kaze gam otma mi toha arava mod modolaze, abulmusa zesha shoot speak it colma sh at gil streamlo spakti and ibami Mishpacha, uh Iraqit Dorishon, Aurimshi Alubishnota Shivimi Iraq, Abasheli Roi Keshbon, Yimasheli, Mina Dani Marbezika, Leomanuta v Lokolnoa, Bezeo Therat Firah, Tzurfut, Pninim, Komy Jvarim Kayla, Well, P'chot Tarbut Gvok Moshinagit Sfarim, Kol Noa, Shira, The P'Hot, Aulam Shalem. Mashim Mahod Not Pshutim Bamuana Hihi Tov The Pitum She Gati La Irb, Amati Ani Useli Ishtarbut Bamwana Khiya Moksha Lamilam Kiru Lishot Le Hol Tarbut Shir Gashti Shahani Pshut Noladiti Mihadash Begil Estrim Verba Zhina Time Shazi Bukovot Mod Mod Naf Shiot Beshe Lotimulat Noladiti Bayer, I Pshutima, Cash Manim Galemashu, Kore, Roe, Pogesh, Miratek Vazigaz, Bet Balimudim Besem Spiegel, Matitov, And I'm Tat Magish Lomot, Renen, Ulail Kshov, Kiru Lagiloshiv Ulailazov Talimudim Kilul Raklich Herba Universita. Kavatito Kivisha, Pati La Mas Kirashello, Masker Shall I Teks, Korea, U Lokul Khpano, Search of Festival Berlin, We Zorka Thrilat Metz, Tik Rulipesh. And Yolek Behemet, Shek Varshahti Bihal and Marti Light Yanuar, Selah Shuelo Ey Thai, Macure Mashtomcha, I mean Sihaben Mid Sha Te Photo Vizet Me, Kilu and Lozere, Mistake Alive Omerli Temgishli Famim Loser Because I Mstake Ali Tosh Nakes of Verimala Informatica. Sarat Gmar Sere Shirdizik Via Gdolakazot, Betim Kibalti Shur Mayor Motita Srit Draft Rishon, Abe Cephere Share, Kibalti Miat Keren, Vas Betzem Serat Rhok Mima Shirley. Ken 8 Yoni Yamatok, Eightan Mansuri Shayama Fik, Mit Kaserela, Omer Lichma, Itali, Torteliot Skouter, Kilu Lo Dati Kulkahmaze Omer. Well, Omarli Otto, Amarlize Maskoret Yomit Kazoz, and Shmalier Better Tov Masha, Ya Halti Kabel. Lonid Rash Tlik Paterma Vodasheli. Afano Sef, Kashli Bot, Trotzela Sat Point Sheruti Afaka, Be Ushalim, Matiken, Bon Yodama Kilu, Yashti Malatetla Khem Kzirotilatla Thum Vaz Magina Alpine Khameshisre, Kilu Komiya Vodochem Lo Lost A Vodash Meod Mar Shima, Kazi Pitum Khazarti Lyot Kiluk Mea Khra Thusat Kishalon Kilul Semli Mudimbez Thushat Kishalon ve V Choserat, Pitom Mikza Marli Yala, T'Khzo Mashotha. Mashakhoti Khazara, Alpaim Khameshre, and I've Sortin Kzarim, Seratihat Mikatsarba Midbar, Yal Shirai Fiket, always the Khamamakazo, Amazmin Kol Shana, Kekhelek M Festival Sortin Baarava, a Gashti Tastrit, Kibalti, Bidukdibao Zekodem Sheboasilem, Belamati, Lamatimeno, Odmod Mushmoutit, Steot Serch Kromlo Migdalor, Kamchod Shimahak, Shezebetse Maya, Agarin, Shamat Yats Mishman, Yodasat Sir Te Indi. Sergeoto, Mafik, and Bamai, Ali Mafik, Soundman, Salam, Vezel, Scanner. Ukraine Barishon led December, Khamesrayo Mahaka. Lots of khikroom. When you have the seret, a zaw apgamim shiloh. Kilo ni elishim kilo and shali, kilo tamide muftami shenva serat margishli shallemidaivazi asma bayimze. It'sira, she shlemami day shazhu oferthly technit. Kilo apgam zeshta margha tviat etzbah etil sayri margishimed, etil kiramikaim gishim, shtapito margisha, at the warzha mulo, kilo yimhsava y mach nisimid l lemifalze akos loita niket ka, gimulo anni rakacha. Zemashani tsirah, bebe kulnoa shesh keramika z niramti be kulnoa ta mgisha zifema tfarim konyot gasim ve khasufim wa ni modmodo evedze. Sham pito mati okay, esratim, sevet modnot kitan, mori t kolinya nafaka, et kolina kese, fani semma sheni kut se an lotta lui beklu kilu zenolam Mayer modde ithaldi la sot sidrashel sotin dokumentarium jachadim kher me akitashel, it's vilansman, sinu kamak prakim dokumentarium, shel esr de kot, raka niveu, magim, tzelmim yom yomaiim, ruhimedze, gam, meodo fta tzar, otmam, zelo shha totsar u yetzirat mufet, rachokok mize,valuwa anisekol noa, sbezen isrivetia, sbeze khakira, shbezen mifgashima olam, animsa persipurimderze, vepsad to tsar, holyati fame territor pachotto was the lom shane. Alpaimbe sheshasra magia oren gerner shi itzali kaali pageshu mbengili, kaziamnu botosman, asinwe tahamamabe katsarba mid barba rava, khakanu yad botasote, mit khabarnu mod, kze min me odavim indie, me odla vim tatluta zranot, la sotvarim, kze mti mide pamal mefikim veze, uponele kam fi kimlo, chma khubona gishla kranot, umer cranot zomer allol kabel kesefort khameshanim, watela sotaseret kanveh shao, ve zihabinan yomerlo kze chma bona sedze bitsu wat's mate. Kilubwa tata sim kesef and ysim kesef. Kilani kam vana marwizi khishim shishim elf shekes besof, atilumim ya look tater, kavanu is itarichyad, shan khutzim tzelem, atilumim shil Afrika, uhunai thriam mimari shonim, alulanu shemmashuk mutishim verba elf shekek. She the cloom. The verb Sirte gmar shel studenti, gm shel studenti molima, shilamnu le kulam, shilamanu meatme od, lobatu chaloti ayumi mate yose otpam metafrika, ba modella z loit yo se bototswa abenti ayom otpam, shhewa shmonishani mahaka, shtiverze uli kilu lonitsulba muvanha, val kilu, lo khavinasotka. Wadana khusimet Afrika, sertakikatan kazei imaurim shel oren, babaichelo, ima kalbashela abasha kilu, min, dva kikatan, uhrim shlim vashli, mashenimuzrim, kilu, be met, min mashu super, super, super katan, seret matzliak, khzu khimba work in progress by Ushalaiim, ahakhe ba work in progress by Sarajevo, andashim is takim seret, mit kablima kakakh San Sebastian, le Toronto, kilo metarla gitkama oranu Adam kilo uhshavani a gidmashu uhnu oranu Benadam Kovelay, a varnu orbe ba malachashanim an emorgisha gida vodala seret kikabemu. Kittle karev. Shanakas evantishi inasale portugal. Pitonati, and him di aya benadam. Bali stamli shallakwa, the shari give him litalev, the gidmashual orange a nim shelavodamulbaim the midumar student himsheli atvar, shiv be tiracolo no it the car betafel. Icar betafel. Lavin Fo uh the samta botorega yachha kibarga sh Bama loyo dea my karvata fell Amashikore nyakeos um Salem shot him shlochashovim, beta shot him. The organ, Shani Machy, Uloni Ali Shamaid many ashmaize po that sort of big time. Alma lokam one shani aiti khele kmizeveliviti zeve iti shama all the way val kilo a dain aiti mfik sair.

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Sh the betsemirwa mkhwaki debe metaficha is on shatamfik, vemeath kolafati machim the gam kul naat mei. Shatamam shihimakavade.

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Ken, maer modgam a nisha zoti i betem fhaliota merkadishha. Kenab tada ta mida dam kaze mmed mulamara mer, okay, miani e ma ma imyome imhsababani met m ehekdi wuti. Mafik van ikiru kozman otom ze ulayon no rayom rani veval kiru min kozman y shavli barosh, aniko sehta mfik shel uh kulnoats may bi strael, uhindi bisrael. Bazbetem etsem a prirabze a fakoti kazel, itfastanisha shel kul not mei. Shef kul nat's mayi sha x shel sratim shall city, milvad savoy n sheshekoly atrastimem legamri at'mayang. Sere chelon kabel kef mikrano tomikom serat'mayim pinati the sera chetef shelo taktive dal tactive. Shab nagid khaimloki sui, kibalnut aktiv, Avalze beachasla, she fochel tom, atektiv lo speak. Kibaltim kilukeren, kibal nukeren, ve ken drasham la sot te callminei rega, la la makomaze pito mati oki, tire, atalotalibakranot. Sponfikim tirim, shosim seret pambe arbashani, mataho so seret pa maimbishana. Tabuedim bamay, muteta der shela mimun, sa dimerha mishima time elf shek. B Africa, be zrach mudag, be benefisha tovaya alnu mimunava andibat khalit sikhle sim khelech mizen. Susbli shem, zelomi muncha andisantia, zimimuncha safivi, khakakhioava amafikashutaf. Abbemasratim shia city, zithil mi kesaf potisha lano.

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Sha ta ven kha kutapahle ksavan yathime ketefal theret? Eh lo. Kama na simtuf fim boihani mhvita'.

SPEAKER_01 24:46

Yesh model shimat of dimlifiv? Lomfidim. Gamata thin ketefal theret? Mina khava siti serat lif nayeshna time, serachani game vem vegam fiq. Kurumlo eritsa kizate naim.

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She serachata katafta vebyanta? Katafti beanti ve fakti. She the gamma va khara be metulayela u lama de shela bimui.

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Ken Khazati Khazra, uham seratim shishan chetsev, khanche. Dal tziv, daltaktiv, mikesiv platisheli, and a khnunim seemshnotaimakhesh li shet michot, me fala pies mi keranak mi keranakuno Israeli, shhetomhubi, butimamin shinit se kern sefet le seret ve politikvasha seret u filoch u la F Cd we fil rifreubeshuma comas any husoshi barega smai not mashu barosh. Bamaim, theam shoshev the a sukar beba bait a seret. Itumov gisho to him suit me od meodella womer okay, vazilomashot when an ahima vin shelter sha later seret or cotlacono. Gamnikotla canote chuva super legitimate. Shakotlacano note, holchut kabel bot khatishana, holdakot esr shanim, holocholota segam seret. That's a kabeldachla taki bamaya. Atah shavata atta kenminateli film lagishle canote? Holagit khani magishle canoteh shhavishli feature basheli, a ratolam, you tell telemoto October T and Magish. Okay. Sarichnem Sir tema Sasha Sirtemasa the genre low budget. You gonna foret in Tirzelama Kmashasinu Tranu B Africa, Shamanu Yeshta rich, Lomishane, Yesh kes fen kes if you're a ratolam be October, Alpine Veshesh, Mefami Mun Karegash, Gamya. Selgayes Kesf.

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Sha Tome at N Felgais, Maven.

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Naselim Tokolmine Drachim, Khalufyot ke de Lolo Lechetala, Kupag Dola, Kupag Dola Z Betsema Manakia Fakak Dolim Shelah Million Vachetil Serebi Kore Moshalosh Baheti la Mastul Amerikazi, Shishama, En Malasot Mot Khauti, B Shana, Mekablim, Bekola Kranot Barrit, Barritz Khamesh Kranot, Kleliyot vod, Arabakranot Zoriyot, Wanagid Shaim Shaloh Kranote Mikutz Lechhoka Kolnoa, Mekablim Bekola Kranote Bi Achad, Srim the Khames Ratium Ma' Nakafaka, Shalem, Kilo Milon What Shaloh. Hameshmot Studentim, Mitoha Kameshmut, Eshlefachot, Ezema Time, Shekhimyot Bamaim, Yeshim, Shikudwim Trip beor Khmalem, we mni Khasimla Pool Shel Mayashil Shanalifne, we mah shelf nechen, we poqshiman shim kmu Ari Folman, ve Ran Kolireen, we'nad lapid, ve Dani Rosenberg, we Tom Choval, we call me Shemochel Bamaim Shek mshkim la gish vele kabel, ta kawut kiaoti, abinadamu medreka vermer. Zadek, anni lomit kaven la mer la sim kesfmi kisi, vize akilegitimi. Oh, anilow tela vodr ksahba fakashi meod kesha dalam prinata dalazelom mer sh lom tal min frame fim. Dalazilomer atvarim la mit framesol.

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Kennyta pasu ta talot kabel ta lot kolma sherat sita.

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Ba boker ata kabel kolma sherat sita ima tamavinech la vodima lyot mafik sh low budget. Ki yeshem shva, shva modma muzara sh ta' mera okay. Shekel, khsem shtemis remet'ilum, khat remetzi lum, sh bonagi ama sha ap shell yam sze kada m shabim khashubim beoter, kidela mitzeret, kedila tetla ba maila vod, yma tsalaam, yma sakanim, velola guts mmo televizia, shab televizi yumtal mim pereg baarbayamim. But, kilo, az bakulnoa and a khultim la giailamakomazena khotia sodoma nut, kutsim shiaze rega, v regali takev, regga li dok, shinisuvetia. Televiza z aloni suivtia, the mashum is khari. Namu, lavo, shanashimi wordsba prime time, bekunoa, frothanito faces the moriotka. Vastos ser basarami, tkaha, ki enmalaso. The rat's negazmant's kolyum la vi shhevashmone the cord. Facti me Michael Mishrozanov, Bamay Shani Merdmodila Vodito Sertulam, Sanu Zalemoto Betishaamet Zilum, Tsilumim Rishilumima Ikarim, Vodio Maima Slamot, Vizak, Kashe, Ratsnu, Ratsnu, Ratsnu, Ratsnu, Kilu. Gamba Serat Zenegid, Michael U Ayamene Icarim, Sarchia Seratima. Comedis Horaima, Shemul Setosana, Shemiheli Red Srit Kir and Z Hershey Karati, Lost Janer Shelly, Mathiaki Serebell, Sereath Korea Tokyo Mirpacel Bd, Shemegimelev Profess Molani, Transgender Michael White For Transgender, Nagiche, Aravi, Ethiopi, Zugusime Vugari, Mark Worabkazeb Di Kotates, Meshaketa M Tsiu Chelano, Shell Matsu, M Tsuti Yoter Keoti Mass Serrat Yeshbo Ezu Mashu Kyoti Veloni Schlat, the Korea Sere, Lok Movine, The Lost Aner Shelly, Lassotz, Matchim Daber. Okay, Kilen Khil Debery Michael Echne Mamane said, Elf Shekel.

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Okay.

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Santa Ksef, Kesef by Der Hashlamatafaka, in Kodim Di Barnol a koshile kabel befaka, a strategic initial zeshe bash lamps. Lonigashimekia Bederkal and Ashim Law Sim seretimelem tektiv. Kizikhash, gamla, gamli, gamla bamai. Gamla seret chez the hotem chimishwama, me name the law. Shav imom yom yevovi yes seret shivu and a seven seven kabelshivashlid. Shivishiv manase, lodin. A serethakshabatash bikov negative. Kibanu mikiran rabinovich manakamatafka, mashazaranul is go to seret, betsem Saganu serbitsu ratovasin you maimashtamot kakhme kesel, fashia, youumimodmod you fim, vegdolim iriod, ve action, ve dam, vefectin, the kolmaschotsinu, Ian with the kesiflasot, Aval Munichel kodem la la la la koshiaze, the Tamida Makomashto se Bekul Kahmeat, Klasot Arbe, Bazal Mame Vatrim. Patrimani met silum, the magdalim tsevet, makdinim tsevet, the magdalimit kumutya metzilum, khim aleksa, lukimzematzlimakhtana, ma alma al mambatrim, the bamai shim kabelga pito meta etahashlo wumer, okay, ma loy aleksa, ma loye pota location as a ma kunt kolas mkom beyom bekatium, kombi very m shim, be met mefasim, that'sot ka sratim, abal zamet siutpo. M tsiutpo e kazoti she ayutrimpo, sim, andi kilo americe kul no israeli big time startup nation. Kiru anakhno sim, ba kun Israelin is sim, bitaktivim ka elik tanim, mla matzava yupa stratim shlikinga mb festivali, mhakha kola matzava z kilo shall datakalkra pa Israel, ksa to ride ta ma machila kuna israeli ba ulam, lech ba sori shon shlotal paim, kol shanashna time seret ba Oscar, stratim zuhkimba festivali, atarakrotim kol no israeli, bo tam tektivim plus minus. The lost startup nation, seret the kilo mashkia, meatme odwiotem mutov, xpo sipuim, ešhpo nashim amitsim, ešhpo, ez totali yout, ez a hole kilu lorak mitab, lorak mitzada yot srim, amizada sahganim, kilu yeshmashu poshu uuu u muhani tasek, kilubomer, aknu bezeh.

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Atah sali masal behmet k musamata anisha atasamli finggamalfatim atasamgam ketef makita ishishil kha. Ken. A kul noa Isaeli, mahvziach echolahziash kave la viah ketef, mela kuno isali ragili mashal sati k dolin the kale sati maktanim se me dal tektiv, atakilu zelo zimu kanatah lahzimi that a marviah mize. Tire baushesh bezei mu. Tamitkarnefma vodashka kemi fixhil Satimat.

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Lo mharviah meodmi mafik, avalni melamed, andi yovedba kranot, an your se kolminashi rutaf fakale le kolmines darod with vrin kaele, animitparnes. Sotimatholarviah? Yesotim shiote, yesotim shot. Kilu yesotim shilohti a gurab flu ifsatibem, yemani mhashevga meta loch ota vodasheli tadelek, ta okhe, let'ze, sortim shif satielem toda vatielem khamesheshanimve fsatielem. Kamal feshkalim kama filo arbe alfeshkalim, uhtim shikamirvahtilem to, todaz emstanem project le project, a valem tire but fisasheli kilo od Marite Hassim Ula Bamai, Marite Hassim itiva, shazi machela kakhia monzman lavin, sh the icaron modashovle, colleter advarim betak imnis imartive tikshoet, qualieter advari mptirim. And the vara e khdishula patirzabemeta amakoma zeshtawed mul kazitamidani shani baba nimani fikas ne okay b dekali benadame shhutafihad bhachem lo alom the beral batazuko benazu. Nik shutafihad niktoim ishutapota khanut shave bashuk, shha shhutafihad. Likal seret fil search ithali la gisha filakra nota benamaz u shutaf sheli, udoresh meni tsmancheli, udoroshani kram, webit sedek, ifasotimi menta chukazoti. Babbezeba merchma kaverta lomovvihta, ta krego se shhuve shuv, ko e drafti, magishim, orse seret, batomerchma seret, lo olechlach niskesef, kilum metadlekba bokomeral mani olech la vod, kilum mishu tzekta lekta tsmecha. Zedgar zedgar gadol ncheshani kzeadam me odmod sha inertsek moshe ormati batkala inerzi m odmod mobil out if any kilu mini sacran ka sakran bomwana zesha niwevlat kilu anyovly odbezorum lobet tochimani somechal tsmi shani andala fikmize toilet velimto kilu limto dech, echbasofla gia la layamani chavolea lzuk basofla geveli rot is inov tov, kazagiza asha vedze, when poecha citi, wheni omedmachwaze, shani mit kharatalov, ve ali pojekti modmu kavim lifami mulan chhatsevet, lifami mulabamai, lifami seret tsmo ali mukavla sototo. Beb offen tvishto says low budget, the kilo tshew shtaktiv, kulambayun la vodbe sachartov, vezeva dane shmukavut, asta send the ble tek taktiv ta sede be strimahuztaktiv, sta attap shit dokeset akol, et kola et kola intensiv ve ego, ak ak kollik nas. Aven projecja ni t'era lav mistakela khora en yeshriga im shanim tzera le mish situatio zeshakhlato, pao shesharbed varim be malachaderhavel. En projection imit staff ken yom, ztakanaba dere, kla mati, zamik twa sheri, zhishu makum the ktati shamafal tzaniavel. Zema shan ya yasebain campany mamati ze when sikkim kul noa, when ikilu kamin macharat, vem shmit kesha la merichma. Yeshpo said that's a below budget when you can la martelish the team. Lama to said, Kim mazet lama ma ma mazat of pamsi ya hered fazia and mashu but mikeshu Mishimad shim shurim kilo.

SPEAKER_00 40:02

Kiv the kenkma metukta with the tachalbufeshi do as a t Lomanian S Dot.

SPEAKER_01 40:08

Lommelama loyas say caregasilomanian tidoco, city meolam she to pull I'm zora la doko drama she stabis a voeval ni bati la poektaze bakovashel misha m ficta alililati uhzori khoviratovave, shutofato vave, kefli moodgedola vodita Ani or sotko no alilati.

SPEAKER_00 40:36

A zekatoa lilati. Echashav Mishwakama chivan bumerech and thought anybitwahli kapeta canota andi ruegamosy the thirchmatashala thoto to bedal tectiv, echhmathil kilu sholachle katapitomekabel melim trit, echh the matama show y fanny and yet khil mimeno ki and shin kudashuva.

SPEAKER_01 40:57

Kavray mitzalila si hotba kenot kiz shaluti sh kilu. Echmak diri maz serchi fasot det tective no. Tamidw time legaloch and ymer tire kim ti ru kimat kol serat israeli, charasot be call bedal tekti. Lolon, your sratimgum, shen ne sub million. Gamotam sharas bedal texti. Echhmma serat milhama. Gam serat mil kama sha sodbi shlosh motra m telef shekel, shta ba mite khiot, meodmuhsha, velavin, efo, et uhimelf shekel shel yomtilumha chela action, shoi mi riot vze, ehu said, orim ez afteris twovechu yukal ba ba ba kama frame abodim la virta o lam shela milhama. Efsha la sotidze. Shpo be met ki shronot meodmot gdolim shio dim la vod be me'at. Any mekol seret fsha my sahir or vatiga mishma invatikim shwala bali lvatetasimen'sot seret. Baimvumu Anachmuze umma locholing bala l'tina kama. Kashemidai, lobithumshen kabel, kibanut guvotra ot, a shlavarishon timla sotats ma shivli basar. Ma shivli. Hashiv. Ma ma the varze she she shall bass of that suffer the varihad Shani Rotashu share the beniz the Arbe. Over sort him shallim shall, and um madavarhat and Zuhranikan losucher. As anywhere, the varihad, she share him at suffer. Ether Shani Mahak shad the brother gid, why yet the regazebets green, shallamat or said to the varazi. But the varaza child saw below budget and have like Lom Shane Maz. Kim Shakta Gilichman, what's that sneak? AI, the dechlo, shall only kitov, to half shimza. A velkimat call and regish tale shim gum below budget.

SPEAKER_00 43:12

Ver snich the met Magia Ada Varazi Mazella and Hol Machalish Lakata.

SPEAKER_01 43:23

Tireavi Mefikim Mlo as a pomfikim Americaim. Talom the bear poi me today me the mishu Shabata Magiela Mistradim Shelo becoma string. Regalani Shafti Mamita Kilo Za mefikim po barit kilo. Tada ulaish Pomfikim Shershavi alvhu Veshla Mistradim Vovdin Veze Aval. Tada Zelo Enma Attakiot Sir, Sheshha Mashula Gid Vata Bemetro Sela Sototo Amafik. Ulossel Khatovashu Koreze, Holochi Ulopanui, likroze ki karega, sholhuloshi shata sritim, u a sukbilit par nezbed varima khirim, aval ulosel khatovak ki ki ki the mazin the khad mazin te shenikilo. Mappay mman shimp, kze mm mriumli chmat it's peze nemen chmu ma mazit baushani tzpe.

SPEAKER_00 44:22

Nosh, koldawasha magaleha. Lo kure kili famimias situatiot she intuitiv okay fuloda zbir lama tinwatyehete kolpniani kolkasham kabel vediwah bavar bonagilifne sha shanim loitika. Av kayo kolpniash.

SPEAKER_01 44:44

Pani velecha na khnikabele the guvim kenyad barur litkashana kru anigam eshtiko kada shibnadam sh uh uh pamsh nya kotevli vomer the boni pogashani kum vanivgachito. Aska nifgachito, anigamalzelom itkaret, tapogeshana shim, shivimakuzma pin lokuremaseret clum, tapagashabinadam, siperkalat smo, siperkalamusedze, the machzivot kapitom lit kabele lamatasisratim. The kh, kenat uh kilushuteta energisha benadam shemulha, batoma okay, white, yeshba lama zemashu, kiluzelo kata, abbenadamzhikosman nachumtakuma z shikoma no felve kam, no fellve kam, kaze yeshotanashim shem mmhurium la devar shelasotim, veni tmid kefgadol ifyim at sheni machlitla lecheti mishwa ker, wifhaim tada dinami, aval enma any anyashmash yomer e atoda what tam anni lomda berb shem kolam efikim, and locha verbi goodem efikim, yamlocha verbi goodabamaim, asani come one lomi at sega fihadnil vadats me, awel k sat me ki ruti mfikim. And bamai shirutel sotseret, rube metu tesoter, yavo, wefneli cole mafik you whatse. Yum mafik, yamas pik kham weftahtha de gido bo bot bot rematamatia, ymafik laws u ye kazegdala shen leg money and a khumoda suki mach shav. Khati Bashan Bashnotan Bapan kze sholakhle lecture and sechavasote ko product bhul, as makivim Bashnataanichma Lomanianotti.

SPEAKER_02 46:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 46:25

Sad? Legitimigam? Todanashim Yashlem eeludvarim Bahim, the motivati rod, Shanashimj's recla vote him Imanashimuk and lodya Taitai.

SPEAKER_00 46:38

Aval Ayotzer?

SPEAKER_01 46:42

Zotha?

SPEAKER_00 46:43

Balhautro mechata Solakata and Gasha tomer Bonata three tov isototo mechanics.

SPEAKER_01 46:50

Uh Magishimoto, you manimodo Fred Nagishoto, the Asharani at the colmina so sim, colmine combined gum him giv seem the kettle shall not. Yes, uh project himsulmu that project him shavati, call kimat call project and him cabel was a kimatku. A projectum shalloka ruectium shall she and sequition asso bigal shabama scheme like a low budget was anywhere and fill. And you lone ish, shall semashou below budget, rather bamay low lama lama energy, velama energy, and ki and tektif kilo, ni loko sem ni lo de la fok shekel mea shekel, and you dala fok shekel, shekel vaketi, shekel shivim. A lo and ill sexamim, ni lo and low mumti kesef, the as the projekt, project chin is a projekt chabamit year damize, the project project chick shab bekarov.

SPEAKER_00 48:09

Mabemeta poektim shamrime quality part of call me snefratim sherechal hase odnatema richashlo therechata October or teamshall habit karegashlachembahadara rihasham ruim no tetelin.

SPEAKER_01 48:25

Lo Lano Kilulanus live la Bamain Veli, ah okay Kilulano the Bruan Hebratafaka.

SPEAKER_00 48:36

Kilu Khabatafai Takira?

SPEAKER_01 48:38

Kumla Khabrasheli film marble the Tanidmuf Timesla cano, eh film marble Breshamas. But I will and lotta share a shoe mitta kirav. She simulav mauchela mafik, shelly baula, it's ni ratson as a lealem velagido kicma ni bonis, but my with the berve and as a project him as a project, um, festival benumi, was uh premiere festival or barit's own. And Mipola project, come low madame, uh Gam Dokodrama, Sarah Tech, Sui Bitwa, super intelligent, it's all the Atlasot, Sarah Chalier, it's a naimarega mamashablevim and Shweis Lemertz, the Hitio Tamlish in Virh Lemertz, Mashabatu, Shleomash Lamote Hatch and Mulla Sam, the Sarah Batesam, I think a frame, to Daraba, Nimkovesha serat musi big the frame in velocity, the frame in your film. Ben Peleda Salam, she says uh Salam Tsaira, well she fellogdolot, gamba by intelligentsia, by shoot, total youth, Shira, Clara Winter, she are worketh, uh intelligentit, Asher Goldschmidt Shosetta musica, Natalia Shosata after. Kilu as a new mare Yala, bo better boot a viotanu shibetum kvashe uh Israelit Kolno Mishari, poya kumo cola y tsa art outinwatina sodnova televisia, or sita what reshed la sotze Begetu chmu, yalachnu oftim la manim Bonas Bona se kulnoamity. Can Bona sell him seta drahim la sotze. Bonchapesta strategic matimal, echan musinta serata zebmashi ehtanu. Chavmashi eshtanu, the gamliota tatatufta, shloshimel shekel. How you litish loshimel shekel, and sort of feature if shall. That's to vlak shovel, mam tell me but shloshimele fail. Can the alternatives alternative sim stretim the buttons and low layer le Hachin Izgarval, or Bam Lon is Garim, Raknif tahim odim, the odd student, Marsimitam. Shira matatrich, kilo. Fu theyom talot edwin yard, the kula mm smartphone, tiny hustle notes, the kutef shear, the myremmotaba, regaze la rishato kivatiod, we shlizolam, clum, atalottakhlav, letal tela fihad, we m lots in ochel, we have a lot to la sea, bas of the m salila, pshut kore meat smooth. Multimla gid laulam mashu.

SPEAKER_00 59:30

Ala tzmam, a laulam, ala urim shlam, ala halomochelem kiru shala gidigam dehsipozaimela thot itai passika mut kina modifai vanuhaklafaka alugamiteleha thot kol noavis a munamot sevata.