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מנער בסיכון ליו"ר איגוד הבמאים: המהפך של אלירן אליה - סינמה שו"ת פרק 43
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אלירן אליה, במאי ותסריטאי שחתום על מוטלים בספק, העיר הטובה והסרט החדש עולה, מתארח בפרק ה 43 של סינמה שו״ת לשיחה עם אבי לודמיר על קולנוע שנולד מתוך החיים עצמם ועל המאבק לשמור על היצירה הישראלית חיה ובועטת.
אליה חוזר להתחלה המקרית שלו בקולנוע, מבחירה במגמת קולנוע בתיכון ועד הלימודים בקמרה אובסקורה והעבודה רבת השנים עם בני נוער בסיכון בדרום. דיברנו על הסיפור האמיתי שהוביל אותו לכתוב את מוטלים בספק, על העבודה עם נערים לא מקצועיים, ועל הדרך שבה הסרט הפך להצלחה גדולה והשפיע גם מחוץ למסך.
בשיחה חזרנו גם לעיר הטובה, על השנים הארוכות שבהן הסדרה לא הצליחה להתחבר, ועל הרגע שבו הבין מה באמת חסר לה כדי להפוך לאישית וחיה. אליה מדבר על כתיבה מתוך כאב, על פחד מחשיפה, ועל הקשר הישיר בין אמת אישית לבין כוח דרמטי.
דיברנו גם על הסרט החדש עולה, שעוסק בזהות ושייכות דרך סיפור של מהגר מרוסיה, ועל תפקידו כיו״ר איגוד הבמאים והבמאיות. אליה מדבר בחריפות על מצב תעשיית הקולנוע והטלוויזיה בישראל, על הירידה בהשקעה בהפקות מקור, ועל המאבק לשמור על סיפורים ישראליים בתוך עולם שהולך ונשלט בידי סטרימינג ותוכן בינלאומי.
שיחה על קולנוע ככלי לשינוי, על יצירה מתוך מציאות בוערת, ועל יוצר שמאמין שסיפורים יכולים לשנות חיים גם הרבה אחרי שהכתוביות נגמרות.
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SPEAKER_01Awk, moshaniroto, tzerh l tetamrit simla zahyan ota tiksha, amdina, si khalikanismitaklalun ka gamla shkia, anikilo, yeshlezi toknitzl, azov kataftik tohnitl mid minute, tarbut le umit, mamash kilo shimhulek lihamishavni o so, dehlach nis kinuhlomanut bah ba mechavat siburi, bakeilah, echetam ritra shjotnu kumiotla shkia bemozeonim, yeshlezi tohnit mod gdulla, aval, ba no sazeshila fakote, abakor amdinagam tsiha, le tzer benai, ot pam. Kilu zelola sutlanut srim. Zebemed, tdaz, kilu lama ishheta kulno, keshit kwa kakulna, ambdina sha sama shamtakisiv. Azgamar shhawa zahyanotam mshayotem samochamtakesef. Amdinatziha tlaim tam mritzim, kede shkabe tsirah Israelit telaim kalkalit. A tamin kede la tetlem tm mritzla shkia. Acheshazeavor, asia odeshi, uh sh nuhal, uhishze tohnit auditor uhit vemashmoutit, uhkabe afakotma kor shizhani to tikshaw. Zichavlikrot. Tikshiv, himzelok, alachno kilo she alachnu be midron mazatalulemata.
SPEAKER_02Vazrev attabatayo, shaliguda by my matani khana tafkid.
SPEAKER_01Lifne shanaviduxyamti, tafkitch libiato yuda, it is gangrosha here, vase rale kavata nala, ve sali, nigashita, the madatikilufkida shall shall yoriguda bimaimbayot asil, aver shaltizakilimashli, lenatseakita. Then, kizabitna dwootha. Moshkab is a k yom yom, yom. Yom, uh, zavan siot vanktenim. Achashiva, asihotzum, asikotyomyomankali, uhsharim, hhiburim, la vimikolone poe, ketimipolepole, le yotzrimzirim, lizomi kolmine tochniot, Vegamechadimikol, mini reformutla lotsahabekanota kolnoa kedaishabimaim, yuklu, lit parness, behavod. Bisofar, amiksoshla nunishak, kihol shani khlasti lay good anime vino ter we cole pteva shaniputan megalet kolak shalim sh not sullochashanim, atta avivibasov, atabamai, atawitelasorta serha atta nahush, attaya zam, attayotzer, the basov omika teda fair at a sachar shha kiloen kesef, as ata sacharsha, as at Ikarasot Adahogama, a keva hilish Latseno. Asaturi ni povinni po the turnipo, nipo, the kulama vihin. Lama, attagansihla, nahon Zotamanuchha, Avogansota Parana Sasha. Vesidavarchavli shtenot as Kenya Tsarnu Midve, Le Hizuk, Mama de Bamai, Belishipur, Neasaka, Belishipur sh Nototafaka, Zlukach Zman, Zlukach Zman Kilo City Dvarimbe Beriato Yuda Shakru, Arbe Arbe Arbe Arbeiter Kilu Dvarim Arbeiter Mukavu Termeyer, Botermeyer, Arbeiter Tochniotle Mobile Trevrat, Shekilu A Mutami Povami Povami Povaki, I'm Gulcatan. Matahola Sotinze, Enikha of Deen, Kilo Stoman Khalid, Vesh Misrada, Walziloma speaker, Tashkitchi Bemethagura Bitachon. Show William Zegudan Bitachon, Kim as Tomertak Michashila, Bima Bemayotha Bemeod Bimayot, Bimaim, Barit, Shiloh Vray Good, Vem of Deen Bishoot. Allah Guy Hada, Aitishavoshaw, but I get Vamra Lamatem Kinum Ita Saman Kali television, Temolimelaya Bimaim. A Valautzigamatasri time, the Utsligam Asakanim, Leutsligam act, the Utslam Fekim Lamatemlo Mita Gdimudahad. Lamatel Biachad. Anime has the Latafid ni city lah tuda bimaimuda sritim.
SPEAKER_02Lel fakotchiz, baby maimassal, shame gamba good of gambay good of the masal.
SPEAKER_01Nahon Aniba Bama Tasritai. Nachhon Lama ishne gudim. Lama Zelot sechut matehad analakad. Zekoach, Tagamahpil, et a kamuch la khaverim, atosecharbemeut kesefkatami tya el kalkalit, ishraman kalita khad, velosh neman kalim, ishkam Khajbuni kad, velosh naim, ishram, velosh naivakol Lam Shikit khadh, minelit social, minelit raknaod, uhbemod Youts mishpati, sheshgam vegam, vegan, vegam, become la khitekol. Vezinit kalb, wecome the political pinimit kazati. She loin yanit, elon yanit, I goodim elish name khimitrabe. Maya yoomish, killimishli, mattexif shelim, matexif shalim, alhti lawhishbon, vamahti, loita ken, loita ken shikiruzichne goodimfutsalim. Loita ken, lorak miprina kalkalit, gamiprina miprinat maut, lavol legufashi do, lavolakranot, chanachnu, i good, miuchad, gedol, khazak, ishle mashmaut. Garshana, the arbashani behmet menase, la varazer, it's by good shavana, amitichot, uh shelf share the besofar, can lached maile.
SPEAKER_02Any shave maclalimke de l'yote very good. Matzari kliotlicha.
SPEAKER_01Yet katsar, and shaved uh criterion kid.
SPEAKER_02Kilularovingta kilugame bamaim bithiladarkami kolim.
SPEAKER_01Kluselhasseda, sede, gramba partanya, was mevla partani, zainyana uhdut, kedei, shanachnu, nukhal, lyot shomgasaf, shell uh uh bimaeva bimayot, mulakneset, mulamemshala, mulkanotokono, mulazhyan yotish malevoda, zango sini zoma valkulzihimla gib lezeshi lezishu mashu shore shab, lezeshi atrala martiva kodem.
SPEAKER_02Mahasha vit kolla meforma shel mikizo, colo hokokona, lifna teket, motherbet him, f I goodumed mulah, amadmullah hokka de be mabet him, echa hoka de be met mashpia or lechlashpia.
SPEAKER_01Alho dimhpian red uhim kadima, godem koloshi million uhim uh bid duke kiz uhula madadim the million shekelakolna?
SPEAKER_02Ken.
SPEAKER_01Uh can is if million shkalim uh reform shelote defasim beta mis kharim uh good ni sali la kemba de sha? Betah Bugam Sim Temod, notem Bikud, La Sratima Mishraim, Lebenasratima Omanutim, Kilo Apar, Bun Mashaya, Lemash, Utum Sam. Yeshma Kum, Gamlikan, Legamlican, Zeronia, Chile Kilo Frenzinga Yamin Small, Kilotefur, Anilo, Yamino Small. Yo Tremio Totem Low Yev. Lam Fahad Miz. Ma Pachad Mizher, Dina Democrat, Shiti Bikoitala Memshala, Before Shall Memshalatwah.
SPEAKER_02Memshalato, Bemette Zakamotek, Bemet Mothazak, but Mamasia Tekka fit parfumized video shelha, me the bear mod the masbir keylo negeda tekas.
SPEAKER_01Lolo, aniloitsa, ni loit atinegeda tickets and it's a theta sucks.
SPEAKER_02Anachnu lo kibatalaya, baby covod, lo give the miya.
SPEAKER_01Shoulot shullo, Itabikorcha na kholota machnu batekis. Kello ni rikken? Nifheru Litmoded Vasparchou. I'm Shalatit Khalef. I'm Shaladit Khalef September or October. I'm sharatit Khalef. Alcohol takes him, Layoutrim, Velaitsira, I'll himadia. The cold tekis mashkia, the note, laitsira, the samuta, a la mapa, the mevorrach, looks the magia today. O Menael Machlakabe Ichilo show Sartarbut Sarah Briut Gamba Takburao. Polity of Freemetamistra Dim Slayhemle Sakramat politics.
SPEAKER_02Okay, kaalethium called the optimism. Law optimia tavern tatafias and modificabethoms, you can use it.
SPEAKER_01The gamba Iratova, the gamba siporshenosa, officially any gumfik, as any duchef, asimishumashadla, gid lebi maimsirim, lebi mayotsi rodze, she texula, itsirashlim, meazavita facatit, she trefu kem besofoshavar, emayazamim, emotrim. Limafriamasha nime sellas by good veletaken, shaim Shila Yotzrim Vayot Srod, Anachum Bemet, Bosafim, Anachm Yuzrim, E Fhaitiraloteno. Achovim Tarayanot, Ahu Fatrimotam, Besof Anachu, Zemashekov, but soft Amazon. Seth Kabelkamer, Aguru, the defair.