מטהרן ועד פאודה: עמרי שנהר על מאחורי הקלעים של דרמות המתח הישראליות | סינמה שו"ת פרק 49

עמרי שנהר, מהתסריטאים הבולטים בטלוויזיה הישראלית, מיוצרי "המדובב", מתסריטאי "טהרן" והתסריטאי הראשי של העונה החמישית של "פאודה", מתארח בפרק ה־49 של סינמה שו״ת לשיחה עם אבי לודמיר על הדרך הארוכה אל התעשייה, על כתיבה לטלוויזיה, ועל האתגרים שביצירת סדרות מתח בישראל.
שנהר חוזר לימיו כסטודנט לקולנוע באוניברסיטת תל אביב, מספר על השנים שבהן עבד כמעט בכל תפקיד אפשרי מאחורי הקלעים, על הניסיונות הכושלים לפתח סדרות, ועל הסרטון הוויראלי שהוביל להזדמנויות הראשונות שלו כבמאי וכיוצר. משם הגענו אל "המדובב", הסדרה שיצר יחד עם אדם ביזנסקי, ועל הדרך שבה כמעט במקרה הפכה לפרויקט הראשון שפתח לו את הדלת לתעשייה.
דיברנו גם על "טהרן", על העבודה לצד משה זונדר ודני סירקין, על התחקירים עם אנשי מוסד ומומחים לאיראן, ועל הפיכתה של הסדרה להצלחה בינלאומית. משם המשכנו לעונה החמישית של "פאודה", על הכניסה לעולם של סדרה שכבר הפכה למותג, על ההחלטה לשלב את אירועי 7 באוקטובר בתוך העלילה, ועל העבודה המשותפת עם היוצרים והבמאי עומרי גבעון בבניית הפרקים המטלטלים של העונה.
שיחה על כתיבה, על התמדה, על העבודה מאחורי הקלעים של סדרות ענק, ועל אחד התסריטאים שממשיך לעצב את דרמות המתח הישראליות של השנים האחרונות.

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