רועי עידן, מ"מנאייכ" ועד "נוטוק": הסיפורים האמיתיים שהפכו לטלוויזיה - סינמה שו"ת פרק 55

רועי עידן, תסריטאי ויוצר שחתום על "מנאייכ", "נוטוק", "כפולה", "זה לא הגיל" ושורה ארוכה של סדרות נוספות, מתארח בפרק ה־55 של סינמה שו״ת לשיחה עם אבי לודמיר על הדרך הלא שגרתית שהובילה אותו מאנימציה אל יצירת כמה מהסדרות הבולטות בטלוויזיה הישראלית. 
עידן חוזר לילדות הפרועה ולתיכון שמעולם לא סיים, ללימודי האנימציה בבצלאל, לחלום לבנות קריירה בארצות הברית ולעבודה עבור MTV, ולרגע שבו הבין שדווקא הכתיבה היא המקום שבו הוא רוצה להישאר. דיברנו על השנים הראשונות בערוץ ביפ, על "חיות פשע" ו"בובי ואני", ועל הדרך שבה הזדמנות אחת הובילה לעוד אחת ופתחה לו את הדלת לתעשייה.
בהרחבה דיברנו על "מנאייכ", שנולדה מתוך התקופה שבה התנדב כשוטר סיור בתל אביב ונחשף לעולם המשטרה מבפנים. על הרעיון ליצור סדרה שבה השוטרים עצמם הם החשודים, על העבודה עם הבמאי אלון זינגמן, ועל המעורבות שלו כיוצר בכל הדרך שבין התסריט לסט. 
משם עברנו ל"נוטוק", שנולדה מתוך סיפור על גלגול נשמות ששמע כבר כנער מחבריו הדרוזים בחיפה. עידן מספר על השנים שבהן הרעיון נשאר איתו, על הבחירה לצרף לכתיבה את נהאד בשיר, ועל העבודה עם הבמאי אדם סנדרסון בתקופת המלחמה. 
שיחה על כתיבה, על רעיונות שמגיעים מתוך החיים, על הדרך הקשה להכניס סדרה למסך, ועל יוצר שהקריירה שלו התחילה כמעט במקרה והובילה לכמה מהסדרות המזוהות ביותר עם הטלוויזיה הישראלית של השנים האחרונות.

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Shalom Bukhima Bayimetima podcastami betata forgi andamer, la rehum eterata three time, we done, we shalom. Shalom shalom. Manaik, nut shatala kuna bekehstemeth oti dra spin-off lemenaakuna ksiamtim tilavod the rote, la dimsir tekul no arba, larba we vodka charli odamon amon amon projekting, whichamihole, la chlimo te mi kamashefti, boneta thing.

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New York Zelo Agil, Chasiti Mraz Yuvan, Shaita Kapo. Vayadodnetuya. Colminegam Katavti stambe males dawat loshely. Vayadud netuya met egata lolam kul no, mefozate khilzate khil. Zethil mezhlamati animatia be betal. Animatia? Beketa let'sye. L'anya notti kloom betoriel donarmit bagger. Aiti defkalfik, mkfon yonti shum davar betaklo academi, ttihon and li bagruta yontieled mod de paru, avel mashakana dava, shikana modafil tsayr, msayer male, tigam kure bavad khreza kilo zbiiru klik madvari, mavel. Mitsaier amon, se grafiti, v kaele, mitsayer, mod of comics, veh kilohatsava thatibal many tsukenadolgam gadalti bebay che opti karriera bethumea, masu shou bhlalo kilo mashu sh kayambehl, k optia, aska lobe metal zahvana o mashu kaze, batsawa, speaks man khov, uh man tosati ma khaimshli, uh, zalola m shikh ba tzava, bathuma bithoni, eventisha nit zaklasot mashu shul manut, azalahti uhzalil, ve lemazaliba autosmanita maklak ayomza mahlakale new media shame ka z foots, aya, khidal animatiklo shur shala mutzala skalakwazi koti itkabel liba groot bli kaza shul bli twar, kilo zakaimim tuda, as it kabalti, ve lamatisham, veiti rayti kitov, mashnikra, zav a lachlisababa, the sham, but msgirata li muda animatia, she kolulim gam show basis kolnoi minastam, kabasov the gam sok sh kol noa, aslumdigum tasitaut, mole tasritaut, uh moti of viram, shata streitaiv, I me abba my shel zeuzv, kaz old school, uhidaraba and kavlutakare mrbair, uh betsem kalachanitovbeze, worksho sideli za voda, bautsailadim, shait kaze olech minul panchaikaze, v yeasemarchonchulam roch, ba ulpan retsef, vaniti kutefta marakonas webaso khidah, kaza kolyom zye mini zaan lichtov kaze zmin machon kaze, mhidabasov uh lichloch ba mail, lwali mail ba ba bait asimbakhnasov khameshana zaya kilo ba mail ma batatmachivim shel betsalel, kil shlachta mail, la vodmi. Vemodaftizavikarian rokal kali, ki bhila khatia mudas, lichtov be world, kibalti khatimashaiti o sebem shmeret uh barmen or itabachas becama misadobbi rusha laim kilofantish uhoda nocha. Balifamiti ba i tik amerikasim ghela zilumi koleta the aketa zishel, mashushta noamem maker, sa kilo aketa shel yesh mein. Sha's uh, metishai rajon, legamre goulmi, but shav mullah msmachword, kutev, we pitom zeniya kesef, zeniya pitom ta ofdim, of dimbezaza mea ish, metal mimedze, we baimanashim full samim sahekbeze, weimza televizia, we mhuim zomot, we mzelehul, ve kilo ta. Batsum kolza mathil me zonagulmishek wetlahab kalbitoharosh, uhzete kusha ma care, but briazot, mashushu modi teamly, studerliba as kilo studerly. Avalshati ofkaloiti share nhastilla, city gum vatikata srita, msahti ma care animati, lachti city torsi ni bar tota breit, matu dash betzel blibut, it's uh, it'k kabel, flukibalti milga. It kabalti l's beflo manut bar to breat, lasutors any uh city torsi animatia, it maketibe it makzati storyboarding.

SPEAKER_01 5:54

Storyboarding is a kilo zemin nikudame kasher it's been uh visuali la o la maktiva game khosev liotbama storyboard. Okay, na giv.

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Ken.

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Ovechambarosh, okay, shmatavia career at a three time.

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Any eighty mod azot, but kufan, azocha, and hochamita arim, shall student be ushalaim, vetbasebakana, vodota kherot, arosh, cholem, animatia, pixar, America, Lazovta artam, uhal kilo katanalay, uhalent, uhell atmoshmagi. As animathil modul, at the tour, uh, America and the Kilukhat, the loyze, ma'am. It had mocham, I'm out kef, the savannah, the Georgia. It kabalti, lit mahut, me'a odd, my audio karatit, it's a my animation for some, Oscar, because that's my shagal beshot MTV, l animativote shug MTV, as uh Courage the Cowardly Dog, what's uh Dirty Birdie, it's a poor ethio, the growth piton, eh? Okay, and I have a Khzola Khazola Tzaval, Khzola Zah, but that could five at Miloiman loss of Klum Shel Khzorbay, asham vehshuta bosliers, but I could ka anti Israeli, ketoshi mut Vrimskomele Mayom, and I hasi to uh pam kimatkimat factiloma cortilo, as aya kaitazo by New York, Shani Kilo, Kokhelmano at a Kharaze, Vhay Levat by New York, Kula Vmash Korea Bahs, the Azovantishani Lobemetz Bahaimlit Natak Memash Korepo, Shakula Makh Shavazufta Areet, Zeza Zayan, Khzola Areet, Vazhlatisha, I can't MFA, Khlatisha, you're looking at Khazardi Aret, the city clip giraffe and giraffe clip is here, Khasheli. Clips at animatia? Ledishir, Ladishir, Khasheli, album gag. As you give, I'm a little bit more than a little bit of a good one. But we have superstar Weber, it's not there, um Sikh Beimele, Sidrasha Mornabana, Sidrash Ramnari, Vaya Superstar, as well, we have four semit by Autzbeep and Opascal, the Sulo Lasot Odman should be beep, the Utserefutiles, the Kyasha Nikotev, and the Bible. Okay, uh, ketazha animatia karegalovit, the dafka beketa shela aktiva, bitomuyot ki that's liah, ve kellu se Bobby Vane, vatrush, oh done Bobby Vani, shak varita bikesh it. Vikilu regastisha ulaya niks, umpa shoot uh.

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I mean the colour project. Why is it?

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Sidrash, the Sidrasha Nikatafti Via Tsarti, Bemasha Azayama, Badasha, Yom Latzari N, Share Ruth Bip. O Shaiti Matril Acer Varim La Reshet, the Mizatron. Aval Ken Itimaselia Sarah to me code shim, odor shotot, odr k stand-up, odrh Avuda Batasia, but miksota techni, bikab Newta Street Nagi, do Lyoto Zorbama, Kaladvarim, Koldevishlamim Shakim, Yotzrim, Vamaim, V Anashim, V Tim, Banashimse, Yahulim Nasotla Zolcha, Tovim Sehaktamidl's Ghost is a shuk no ano shek, is a shukishbum at Kunim, Kamakonimulhim Mitsamim, Shana Konim Behul, Hamonamon Muchhim, Kolsha Nagamesh Yotermohim, the Israel M sub seded better, she will hayoterve the shuk me old modi. Ah, comeati magish gonna be cranot, with very batagij, pamri shona, as it magish coloursman, magish.

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Okay, I then subjective, we can uh okay, and I wouldn't file kiss, maboytabaselha kilotack.

SPEAKER_00 17:52

A day job shelly is a bhala and you're gallit storyboard, Hollywood, that's a day job, Shelley. Okay. Shelley Khayot Pesha When Babip and Khavenha Sus Sidra, you know, too. Sidrama Sidraim, Prakim, Shakatuv, and Dmuyot, Ark, Shemit Patahonati, Sleya, as m asinhu beta met Bobby Van M Kimat Miyad, asino with Bobby Vanish, I bet some spin-off pesha. She tacked your ulefet, Nikola M Suderet. She kwa mamasha Sidra, Bituk rides of Lahona, who are Marlis is Manayakimanaiak amatric, which is a massive tree, Mzomania Nimkaile. As a seen with Bobby Vanny, the seen with Bobby Vanny on Ashnya. Vaska for kill for a kilo, as for a little in a gilonala would be Africa, she thought. She have been Italian Reicher, Vale Scheffler, the Uval Shaferman above my soon odd mode, Mutzlachat, B yes, Shikha Vudimba, Africa, and Rotem Sela, she pamrich Gilushi Bhsakanit, Kilo, you term called Vrakir. The Galita Scholar, I'll like it, you should have shall be commercial. What him sellers like the Vraka, Madimki, Matzakanit, Madima? Vekilumia Lor Lokula Mayu Krimta Chancellor. Kitzer, it's a molechman, what's him, and I'm not sure. It's also press academia. Alfie, V Miry Mesika, the Tom Yarb, Pamus, Michael View Let's Televisia, the Tom Aron. Klum look at Klum Zapperza no Ramatrix Guri Alfish, because I regret Alatrai, you've said my super farm, and you dress it, the kilo of score. Okay. Lookti manaik. Azrazim Shikha Imilad, Elad Kvarit Travonash Niadwekid, Melatren, V Azim Shikha Razim Shikha Lovilizab Levad asof Razi uhamitich Abba Note Vselve as of it razulav and razem autkashamim.

SPEAKER_01 25:29

Manaikil Manaik.

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Manaikit Hilme Kabila Sritai Khamathil, but 2010s, but Lama faster the horror where rewind, Aiti has been, oof, psychologue. Okay, the kilo and shakmuites, matches, gom si bot, mashim bangim, frowned upon, kiloiti zemashitis. Sidrash, Sidrat Mishta ni wav's daughrot Mishta, Nowa, kilo Zah David, Sidrat Mishta Shotrim Za pushim. Again, Matiavan, Mashu kazeak, makeba nashim nasimit fosatam, gamba maga, Tamid, becausehtara Amerikait, because the peregomagia um, IAD, was an asshole. Okay, lama shidra, ale shakh tibadol, mati bona's game to sidra bread as a line of duties, or lawyer, and you seek CSI, franchise CSI, Mati IAD kilo internal affairs, then you have severe kilo. IAD, uh New York, Los Angeles, and IAD, blah, blah, blah. As bit of what it's about, reshot as slot as soon as the drama you have growth about at kufa vatito, Mzai, Varnushala, Sinomatzeget, Lot Kabalnu, well as Biduk, if taka kufa, Vamosh, Bikaza Sheni shall be shon was a senior bitomegashn, the moda void, but mishtara, the shootaseno, shota be met a manaic bo bonit makes both. And tis air shovemashela back, if the orcha chuvata.

SPEAKER_01 29:59

Bonnire, bonus.

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Ma betorio cerco te matou se tire.

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Ata bona bonagem bonagitgum ba bauna.

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Me oraf bakol, ata machl ata machlit me abamay. Ava zomer shanih shavol lechve ze mwim lichma ina ezabama image pnoim tofim. Alef bed gimel. Alon zeman, okay, atalonga me karti, ki etalon, city to gam, e ah, etalonikarti mi Sidrasha sino, konkul bruch tisel, sidrash is afti alea, a velo difne karti tokiasino, etaz sidra ba, reshuta shiduro, lifnashekimuta gid, sidrash el eightan fooks, mishpahatova. Aita kelikh. Waalon BMZ, letova, vizeo, as the karti to gam, vigam tapuh, vzeloshha tach shaviro se raketal. Lo ataminase hitovsha hol shelcha, la bidukla zmanchet sarih, sho yez zamin, ve ta seta maximum. V po, ali be mikrea hit the jackpot kilo, sho be metha hidemuhat. Khadvih, bemet ish me odmon miuchad, ve murshar, ve met legalumit. Agav, bamakor, bekal misha m tofikabu while ken the staderbasof, lamochu bemetaram kama mahoto to vot bio tercha julia sidrazot. The loystaderas, lom shane kikon ken a tabu khera tabamai. Kamuvankam z telu. Az shelaze tira, any betaklomitarevamay, bez it sevetubuer, vani lomit vani mishhtadeloli taref baliuk, and kilo mishti rayonot kamo vanan name ofiutemashulhana. Atahik media, thehelectahelech mizata show wanna. As to meret, sha ta, ata ani, lodem kulam kaha ni, ani rutesha sidrazot, tits talem, butsuwa hitova, vhahi, matima, la lema shani tihnadishi. Magale set him, alif Magiele set him be often obsessivi, ve compulsivi, lifneo dabelifna set him, call no sea pre production, I excel, be met ye ani any kamuvani ya kadimba bama, kamuvan, yakadima uzertbama, zerbama, ve ima fake ani do egzamu ridim, my u reba taktiv, ma ze fk ech potri meta paray taktiv, k de lifgoa kamash pa kot ba ba muzzao uhstumatani mamash, mamasho vedbeze kilo mamashemza termoshma utima vodalifneafilo. Vazata, anim odmahma urav, nita cheni, bagash bamaya andigam kilo mistadel fakotani, daymat'shim zilatlita spacia kilo shov lotsh nebamaim. Hollywood, echba mai khad, uh kegela rua ani ba maximum ishly malagidani. Ken, ba, mustonid. Ken baruhta mic malagidav. Uwa bama, uwa z LM can be mate, uhkansha, l'am sugal, b shumpaniv offen le lasete tam zilomita rev, gamlof ta' kulka. And il famia mumero ti ma z ta'ut, vani tatira hakah, ni se perliculam che ta tautata seta. Mstadel shek lolita rev ba ba ni uche la zeki baymet, bama yeloita, mishum stakelo, mahwa, katef, velob ketotov kelo. Zagisha lekelo.

SPEAKER_01 36:04

Yes uh onariswana m odmondit liha, be met kula mwimedani mikola projectim sha, Idlotorega, the project be met. Gambimetonasnia shabavnikim, alkam shavotulay manaik leve onasnia.

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Shumpanivlo uh Alefki be met alon zingman zergishikolkachyo damay, uloya hol, veloya shum klifra uya kher. Ulaya, bhale, tanialha tevayem. Begadol zahami keli terafilukama gid kilo cinematographia kilo sholet we call out very maile. Ash lit technologia. Yesh a project, so lay leam, of match him, is a alone, or mishu kaze zamin, and we can read yeshlifam Ratson kaze, bika noa prozait, she's alul fashit varim, la kelvarim, fluzild varim, Bramamsuyamet. Raton nowa, shav la tet, le khuchaim tsilumim, mtiudi manashim, lechhailak, sali flesh bekim shlah shelv. Lo, lo, lo, chani magia l set andi matasha ni what's olech. Can he come down a book as if any host machine would say. Tamini hikfli with your serve your serves set, and you turke me.

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If I could be met at the hammockola, poiktabasa gamatha mod guddola sani many kuhemftatim atlah the gamat aftive, nutuk bekesten.

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Tov nutuksar besha name kvarutella sote sidrak alanushi alanuf. We khadmem specificumastofli dut. Ayayom kilubets mazya, udbahaim. Uhonishama, u kilu, bagilgula no khishano. Ueh v todach vermo toba bay tarbem, makirtamishpachha, makirza, ve shl akatan, anakhon batihon akhloa ben asbin arba, biduke kore bedekal, shalo sharba, ve aksloitula kodem shrupito. A shaftenit ka gadel tam akir druzium tam yodashem kiluma minim gilgul shamo, zev talo, sali rota z pambe, todada, mishpahashani ben baichamani makirta nashim todanashim lo datimem, lo zefono shamatutam de brimal kedvarim, pitom, pitomem bezeki gam. Kilumia benadam, makirim, vem vim ta mishpahashelo, vosimifgash, we eled me zaeta nashim. Chef shata ma sheta tziniu chilha. Legameti eled. Vez davarem flabe n. Vas meazi o chevli zeves do shanimov, to batsawa, ta makir, nnifash o druzi mbatsava, ba bzalel, kolikad, ta mfinchy kolhad, kol druzi kaze, si po and druzisha. Mami u khed. And druzi shipo, o sh um saphala tsmo, o shekarale khavershlo, o shekarale bendochlo, shekarale bamshpachau, kul kakar basipuri mirat keemala nose, yesh g agav mik karim daim, metora femela noseze, v nich tevusfarim miratke melanose, ni katili ko karati al zerb the mod se mod sikrene karatiel verbe tita, gameta khashivuta eta potenziala drammatisha bonagade, gam ku la gade, gam kvarasuol zakamad varim, kola po bar, SR et maktub, musef sweed, shalifner beshani uh si kekaze balanche druzi, gamkenimiza si pokaze, you kaman kimad. I give the law the way festival as nearly kla.

SPEAKER_01 41:59

As nah, ademulatalafatha.

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