Podcast Updates and Event Recaps

Speaker 1

How does that even say lamamaloo?

Speaker 2

Yeah, I know, it's just right ripped out trunk what you should cut this in as the intro. Anyway, welcome back to the podcast guys. This is we took what a three week hiatus. Three weeks, don, how was it? Three week, four week.

Speaker 3

No two, that's two, three weeks yeah.

Speaker 2

Yeah, three week hiatus. Lots of stuff went on since then. I went to Dubai for a couple customers who wanted some special treatment.

Speaker 1

I went to New York.

Speaker 2

He also went to ZNATS and FL2K.

Speaker 2

And I wasn't there. For those of you that don't know, I had a newborn. Woohoo, it's great, I don't sleep anymore. So there's that. That's why we haven't done an episode in a while, because it's hard to get me in here now. Okay, so updates since last time. Anna would like all of you guys to know that Mama Lona's last ride I'm reading this word for word. I want you guys to know. Here are the notes these guys leave me for these podcasts. Okay, her notes Word for word. Read La Mama Lona's last ride Rip L Tronk. Our experiences meeting, slash, talking and parking the Z up with Soho AMSZ1. That's what I have to work with, guys. Those are my prompts. As you can see, I carry race box on my back. What does that mean? No one knows.

Speaker 1

Do we take? Do we? We didn't take the RAM to a?

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's why it's so confusing. There's no, there's no punctuation, there's no paragraphs, like we don't know whether that's a continued thought or those are two separate thoughts in Anna's mind. Is this how Gen Z is think?

Speaker 1

But when it says L Tronk, we call the RAM the Tronk. Yeah, but what does La?

Speaker 2

Mama Lona, so it's. It is the old blue RAM, both L Tronk and.

Speaker 1

La Mama Lona, but it says last ride, which would indicate that that's the name of the last ride.

Speaker 2

Yeah, what last ride? We never took it. This is so confusing. We took the Black Truck Bruh. This is what moonshine and I deal with every day, guys, every day, every day. Somehow, this is still better than the emails you send us.

Speaker 3

You can't say that Wow.

Speaker 2

Anyway, tronk has a lot of editing to do, anyway, okay. So yeah, we sold the blue truck. It was sad.

Speaker 1

Yes.

Speaker 2

Not really, cause I was making payments on that.

Speaker 1

Sad truck. No one except you're saying.

Speaker 2

Yeah, literally it was here. It's like my truck, well, like the company truck. But these guys would be like, oh, my car, I don't want to drive my car today, there's too much rain. Can I take the truck? So, like the thing had 27 or 28,000 miles put on it in a year and maybe 10,000 was business use.

Speaker 1

Well, I didn't put that many miles, okay, anyway.

Speaker 2

So yeah, that one's gone. So RIPL Tronk, that's for you, anna. Anyway, why don't you talk about this? Cause I was not at Zenat. So why don't you talk about meeting everybody at Zenat? How'd that go?

Speaker 1

Zenat was good. It was kind of just a short day overall, just cause it was just a one day event. We did not attend Friday. We ended up just going driving there for Friday, so we're just there for the Saturday. But it was a good meet. We got to meet all the Z1 guys. You got to meet Soho. We met AMS, spoke with them, talked to see Z1's amazing facility.

Speaker 2

Did you feel remiss that you worked for Racebox and not Z1 when you saw their facility?

Speaker 1

There's definitely goals.

Speaker 2

Now they all roasted me in the group chat. They're like why can't we have this?

Speaker 1

Yes, well, it was nice. We got to meet a lot of the people we work with and we also got to meet some of our customers. There was one guy there. One of our customers with the Z was actually there.

Speaker 3

Oh yeah the guy that dynoed.

Speaker 1

You ran it on the dyno, yep.

Speaker 2

So yeah, that was a fun. It's a good thing we didn't dyno RZ, because probably would have grenade the diff on the dyno instead of at the track. I guess we won't know, but so Zenat was good.

Speaker 1

Zenat was good. Yeah, it was great exposure. We got to meet a lot of people. It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 2

A lot of people liked the beadlocks. Yep.

Speaker 1

Z got a lot of it I wanted them to run the clout wheel.

Speaker 2

They ran the beadlocks instead.

Speaker 1

The beadlocks are more. I would call the beadlocks more clout than the clout wheels.

Speaker 2

I mean, but the clout. Then why did I make two sets? What a waste of money.

Speaker 1

Everyone questions why we did two sets.

Speaker 2

He's not going to have a job at the end of this.

Speaker 1

Okay, Go ahead, try and sell them here if you would like some nice clout wheels that are bronze and made for a Z. They're super concave. Message race box.

Speaker 2

They're hella concave and they got ETS3DESs on them.

Speaker 1

They got the Warren ETS3DESs.

Speaker 3

They're not making this sell very.

Speaker 2

Yeah, why are we not role racing? Oh, that's right, we don't have a diff for it. Okay, FL2K. So I was not there again, but I was supporting from home with my screaming newborn sending revisions to Chris Zillafoulboost. Chris Brito, what did?

Speaker 1

you do for Chris versus how much time did you do for Chris? Whatever man Okay what did he run 1020 at 139. Right, 139.

Speaker 2

So currently the second fastest is he? I mean, it's got a nine in it, he just.

Speaker 1

It does.

Speaker 2

yeah, he needs to go to a track. I mean the prep. If you guys watched the FL2K reruns, he was His first quali Sorry, the first elimination round. He was good, he ran the 1020. And then the second, a limerun. He got DQ'd because he he spun and went into the other lane. But if you watched it on live it was really bad because it looked like he was like casually just bearing over. But then if you watched that in cockpit, in cabin what the f*** do you call it? The POV, the in-car video? I guess you can see he's like correcting it with the cars going that way. So the prep was all right. I don't know, maybe it broke, maybe our launch was too spicy. The prep was not good.

Speaker 1

I don't know, the prep was okay.

Speaker 2

It wasn't the best in the road, but most of the Can we say that, though Can we say that FL2K prep was not good because you were going to come out as like oh well, there's like six second cars hooking.

Speaker 1

bro he can say whether or not he was the one driving.

Speaker 2

So maybe Chris needs better suspension.

Speaker 1

So prep was fine, chris Brito sucks and needs better suspension that last one. So we did 10-20 was good, so I turned the blancher on that last one, so it was spicy.

Speaker 2

So we spiced up the launch and then maybe he needs better suspension because he runs pretty hard suspension.

Speaker 1

He didn't have like super soft running.

Speaker 2

I'll take that back. The prep was probably fine. It was the Z. The Z was the problem.

Speaker 1

It's really hard to make a record pass at a 2K just because you get so few runs. Our Z, we did what a total of three runs before it broke. We did two and then broke on the third Brito was running in two different run groups and he got five runs in.

Speaker 2

That was weak actually.

Speaker 1

All right, you got to cut that out, I should try it again. We'll restart. Brito got, I think, a total of five runs in, so really trying to make a record If you want to dial stuff in, 2k is not the place to do it Private track rental man.

Speaker 2

You know, not how people do private track rentals.

Speaker 1

Because it's expensive, or just a test in tune you know I'll get to that.

Speaker 2

I want to talk about Dubai and how cheap Q50 customers out here are. Yes, oh, no, oh, there we go, okay.

Speaker 1

But yeah, otherwise, florida 2K was a long weekend for not a lot of racing, so yeah, did you have fun. I was dying for most of it.

Speaker 2

Would you do it again? Oh yeah, they were all sick. So fun fact, every time we go anywhere, these children get sick. So when he went to Atco, last year this guy got sick. He like had a whole breakdown on the drive back. Okay, I didn't have a breakdown. He vomited like a little. Okay, like, oh, sorry, we put all this stuff to throw up. That's a break. I have not got a car sick in my entire life, so I don't get car sick. I threw up because I was sick.

Speaker 2

You know, did he get a car sick in the truck or the way back?

Speaker 1

It wasn't car sick. I threw up because I was sick. I'm never, did he just hop out and puke.

Speaker 2

Did that happen? Yeah, car sick.

Speaker 1

Okay, Anyway, anyway, this time around I got sick because of you at Atco and I got sick at Florida 2K because of how is that you got sick?

Speaker 2

but I drove back then. If I got you sick, no, no, no, because you were sick for standing with him how could I?

Speaker 1

have recovered that quickly. You remember, you. The reason you didn't drive to Atco is because you're sick. You flew in because I'm sick. How did I get you sick? Because you're still sick. Whenever you flew in, you got better than I got sick. Anyway, there's like a couple days delay.

Speaker 2

Trinon just brought back to the US, pretty sure as well, flu. Point two because this guy, this guy, I was sick as hell before these guys went and then they got us yeah. They're putting their car together for what 20 hours. And then they got there and I'm talking about the other part of they, also dead and I was like, oh great, you're all sick as hell. So, yeah, they all gave each other the flu, I guess in the car.

Speaker 1

I'm glad I didn't go so anyway, they were sick.

Speaker 2

But yeah, would you do it again?

Speaker 1

I think, I think there's better use of resources than than three runs a week in.

Speaker 2

I think we need to do. We, to be honest, we needed better prep with hour Z before we went. That's what was wrong. We hadn't gone. This Z had never seen a track. We figured that you know same mods as the old one.

Speaker 1

It's going to do fine, leaving out the fact that the frickin subframe bushings and that's why they're not change Super hard, because because of all the slop in the suspension, I wish that we had done it, but you know, hindsight's 2020,.

Speaker 2

But we definitely needed more and Chris had his car ready like four days before. Like he got those turbos put in. I tuned it and he's like yeah, I don't have time.

Speaker 1

He didn't give me a street log until he got to the track, so both cars we ran had no track time and really hardly any dialing in time.

Speaker 2

Yeah, but I'm waiting for Chris to also go to a private track rental soon, so when he goes we should be able to see a nine out of it easily. I'm hoping for like a nine, nine, six I think, because you're on a five eight. So he's got. He's got the 60 to 130 for it, and that was that five eight. I think he knew faster than that man.

Diff and Axle Break at FL2K

Speaker 2

He just thinks he's better DA and he can run it better. Winner is coming. What a white thing to say. Winner is coming. Okay, let's see what else. Customers and buy center. Oh yeah, you tuned the guy in the spot, didn't you? How is that? Random dude walked up to the tent and you're like hey, yo, let me to you.

Speaker 1

We sort of tuned, I just flashed it, went out to the parking lot, flashed the baseball into it and then completed with a remote tune. After that we got back.

Speaker 2

Did you guys sell out a merch?

Speaker 3

No.

Speaker 2

I'm like axing all future trips. You guys are better off here. You guys make more money than you guys are here. But you know what, though we agree. You know what, though? I will say we got a lot of attention with the Z at FL2K, though, even though we didn't, even though we didn't do anything spectacular, like the runs to us don't look great, but the people looking into like, damn the Z can run that fast on stock turbos, right.

Speaker 1

There was one guy really impressed that it was stock turbo, was running 10.

Speaker 2

It was like a boomer in a Mustang. He said right.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3

What was it it was like old guy that our first qualifying run we ran a 10 eight off the trailer, Right yeah 10, eight slow, though, like that's not even fast. This guy, old guy, he went to the lesson and he's like Wow, like are these the big turbos in this? Like that's fast.

Speaker 1

I'm like that's funny. If only he knew how small those turbos really are. Yeah.

Speaker 2

They're baby, baby turbos.

Speaker 3

Um, okay, Well you guys want to talk about what actually happened after the gig.

Speaker 1

Oh yeah, the Z really only survived two passes yeah.

Speaker 2

That's really sad. Two proper launches and it broke the diff. And so when we brought it back over there, we thought the diff had granated and, like you know, I was a road and track and car and driver ran with that story based on our Tik Tok. But I mean, if you look at the pictures it does look like a granated. But then when we brought it back, open up the diff cover, the diff is fine, like the actual internals of the diff, perfectly fine, the fluid was clean. So what we realized was because we didn't do the diff bushings, there was too much slop in the drive train and so it must have flexed enough that the axle popped out. Well, it broke the support oh sorry, so there's too much slop and then it broke the support off the cover, right, but that didn't kill it.

Speaker 2

What killed our run was the axle popping on. That's when you see, you know, in the video, chidong's like freaking out, he's off the throttle and the thing's just pegging limiter which, like to be fair, he deservedly, he got clown for taking that long to turn the car off. Like bro, if I took my foot off the throttle and I saw it was still pitting up like, oh, shut the shit up, but whatever you know, it happens. I mean, it made for a funny video, but yeah, in reality it was just drive train slap that caused it. So the diff cover broke off the mount, then it was kind of just held on by the two bolts up front and then that caused a drive shaft not the drive shaft, the axle to kind of angle out and pop out, and that was the driver side axle popped out. So now we need the drive. Did the drive shaft pop out too, or it was just flopping around because it was flexed?

Speaker 3

Up and up toward the grease can also.

Speaker 2

Okay, yeah, so we need, we need. I knew what is it the Igbo. What is that little?

Speaker 3

thing called the thing the drive shaft. It's not two pieces, it's all one piece, oh great.

Speaker 2

So we need we need a new drive shaft to replace the flexor. I don't know if we can just replace the flexor, so we got to place drive shaft diff and axles.

Speaker 2

And if you're wondering why we haven't shit with the Z since we came back, that's why Because that's expensive and finding parts for it's a pain you got to go to the dealer. Because my logic here is I'm going to replace it. I might as well get upgraded parts, but no one makes an upgraded drive shaft or axles or anything. So I'm like, well, let's just, you know we'll see. So now we're hunting for you know it's funny we look for our old Z. We tried to find parts for our old Z.

Speaker 2

I found the angle like I was doing a box. I might as well buy it new. But yeah, we found parts for old Z. Apparently the diff is sold and then the passenger side axle for the drive shaft, yeah, I was like, oh, okay, so it would have been cool to put a part from our old Z on it and it lives on. But no, it's gone.

Speaker 3

It's been parted out, it would be a curse?

Speaker 2

Yeah, it would be a curse. Yeah, probably. I'm still waiting for Nissan to hit me up. Be like, hey, yo sorry.

Speaker 3

I'm not gonna hit it, whatever Yo man, whatever Like.

Speaker 2

Honestly though, I kind of wished Nissan would have reached out so I could have asked them, like what caused the fire Cause? No one figured it out.

Speaker 1

I don't know what circuit it was. So now you want to talk about New York and Dubai.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

So at the same time we were both removed. Yeah, we were doing dino days. Yeah, at the same, almost at the same time.

Tuning Customers Across the Middle East

Speaker 2

Mine was more of a vacation, though these guys were working, I mean all right, so like I guess they you're supposed to ask me these questions, but it doesn't really matter. So what kind of? So we've been tuning. I've been tuning for four years now. Moonshine has been with me for three, and so we've tuned people everywhere. You guys would be surprised, and I've actually always wanted to do like a whole map of customers across the world. But, like, we've tuned a lot of customers in the Middle East, dubai, or like the UAE. Okay, so when people say Dubai, they live in Dubai, they don't. A lot of them don't live in Dubai, they live in one of the Emirates surrounding Dubai that is part of the UAE. So, but we've tuned a lot of customers in the UAE. We've tuned a lot of customers in Saudi, and then we've tuned customers like almost every other Middle Eastern country.

Speaker 1

I think we've tuned them in Iraq, Afghanistan.

Speaker 2

We've tuned someone in Afghanistan. Really, I believe so Damn. I didn't even know they had QFIDs in Afghanistan.

Speaker 1

I think so. I may be wrong, so we've done okay.

Speaker 2

So let's say, maybe I don't Afghanistan's a, maybe I'd have to check the customer record. We've tuned Iran for sure. A couple.

Speaker 1

Yeah, we've tuned quite a few in Iraq.

Speaker 2

We've tuned like 10 customers in Iraq. We've tuned customers in Oman, in Bahrain, kuwait. So yeah, we got. We got customers all over the Middle East. So the reason I went to Dubai this time this is my third trip to Dubai. I've done a Dino day. Last year, if you guys remember, I'd gone to Jeddah and Dubai and then that was the whole thing. We made that cool Taylor Swift TikTok. No one ever liked it. It was so sad. It was like so perfectly timed. If you guys are watching this, go to our TikTok and scroll down to the TikTok of us shooting flames on the Dino In the Middle East. In the Middle East, it's legal over there. Anyway, you got to go. You got to go watch that video. We timed the. What song was it?

Speaker 1

It was a it's me on the problem as anti hero.

Speaker 2

Yeah, we timed the anti hero lyrics perfectly with the flames, but none of y'all liked it. It was like one of our least successful TikToks. It was disappointing.

Speaker 1

Anyway, it was like that was the active, like being people were doing on TikTok too. It just didn't.

Speaker 2

So, yeah, I tried to whoa, sorry for hopping on a bandwagon. Anyway, this time around I went back. So the customer that flew me out this time his name's Azim he's actually he was one of my first 50 customers. You know that that's crazy. That goes to show how much word of mouth matters on like Facebook and stuff, cause back then I didn't have a website. I didn't have maybe the website was brand new, I was very unknown, but he only knew me from the Facebook. He's like oh, I've seen you comment on there, you seem like a nice guy, you seem knowledgeable, you know. And I later found out that he's in the UAE when I shipped the package to him. But so he's been tuned by me for almost four years on his red Q60 out there and this time around they did Z1 turbo. So they were they.

Speaker 2

I was going to go in January, obviously cause the newborn, you know I didn't want to leave right away and they were like, oh, but if you come in January our racing season is going to be over cause it gets hot again. I'm like yo, how hot can it get? But even now it's October, like we're still hot in Houston where it's like 91 today and we're like hating it. But we had a little bit of cool weather over there. It's still like 95 to 100 every day and this is like good weather for them and it's cooling down and then it'll. It'll go to like eighties for them for like a couple months and in February it just gets hot again, end of February. So they're like, yeah, we're not going to have enough time to enjoy our cars, could you come sooner? And I was like bro, like I got a newborn, I can't. So what, what did we cover? You know, we covered the flights, the hotels and we paid you to come tune and everything. I was like, well, I can't say no to that. It's like a free vacation. They put me up in a nice hotel and everything too.

Speaker 2

So, yeah, so him and his brother Mustafa, they, mustafa, they. They were like, oh, I'm going to go to the moon. So Mustafa has a blue Q 50. He has a as he has a as a red Q 60, they both did Z1 type of, they got identical mods. And so they flew me out there and like, here's the start, contrast, right, like so I don't. I don't know if you noticed lately people are like oh, race boxes, customer service is like not as good as it was before. They like strayed from their original goal and mission. I don't know what, like where you guys are seeing that, but find me another tuner that flies out across the world for you to like tune your car Like. Regardless of the fact that they paid for everything, my time is still valuable. I went out there like Find me another tuning company as big as us that has that kind of personal service.

Speaker 1

It doesn't exist. You know.

Speaker 2

So like even the day-to-day service is still the day-to-day service is fantastic, but that's what I'm saying. Like if that's somehow not enough for you guys, like I'm literally doing personal flights out for people and I I'm the owner of the company too, like I could send employees, but I go personally. So I don't know, I see that on Facebook and I know the trends change, but like, sometimes I'm like that's just bull, like who's who's out there saying these things? You know, like we're on our 24 hour response window. Sometimes we hit the 48 and like, okay, we don't include weekends, but no one does Right. And then, so I don't know, like Mo picks up the phone all the time. So this is just an example of that Right. And then, like in general, the customer difference between.

Cultural Differences in Valuing Automotive Labor

Speaker 2

So it's interesting in the Middle East you have customers who are fantastic and like Azim and Mustafa and a few others in, like Saudi and stuff, who never argue about money. They, you know they're willing to pay up front, they'll do everything. And then you have the ones who don't value the tuning service. So one thing I've noticed is, in Dubai and the rest of the Middle East, like if you have a local presence and you're like some brand name shop, I mean, we're a brand name. We're Q50 tuners, right, like, let's say you were like I don't know. Like I say you were UGR I don't even know if UGR is out there right. But if you're like this big, like luxury tuner shop and you know I don't know if you guys know, but like luxury cars and German cars, people pay like $4,000 for a flash tune. You don't get a module with it, you don't get data logging, you don't get maps. When you use a literal, pop your ECL, flash FCU out, flash it on a bench and give it a tune, they'll pay like $4,000 for a stage one tune, right, and they're fine with that because for them they're paying for the hardware, right.

Speaker 2

But when it comes to the fact that we send these kits out and everything and they're like oh Hussein's doing the work over there, there's like a real under devaluation of labor I would say, like where they think that if someone's like physically doing work, it's worth less, right. So that scene, in the way the whole society is like I mean you guys, if you know about the Middle East it's built off the backs of like laborers that are paid like ungodly, horrible wages, right, and so I think it is like a customer misunderstanding when they think of like tuning, like oh well, it's just the tune, like you're just doing that, why am I paying you so much? It's like no bitch. It ties everything together and it's intellectual property. It's not just the tune, right Like we've spent years perfecting our craft.

Speaker 2

So there's that problem right when people don't really value that, where I think if we just were like, hey, this is some exclusive thing and we have to use a special hardware to flash your car, they just automatically pay more, which would be so stupid and misleading. But I noticed that that's what a lot of the shops out there do. Again, I'm not talking about UGR, I just use that as a reference. I think UGR is great. Don't like, I don't even know if they're in Dubai, so that was just a brand name reference. But anyway, I don't want people to come at us.

Speaker 1

But yeah, the more you talk, the more we need to hire PR managers. I know, I know.

Speaker 2

But that that, that's, that's how it is right. But then there's also like a huge people out there and I mean this in the nicest way possible they're not used to doing research. So, like, out here we have customers that will come to us but they already know what they're doing on their cars, right, like they, they generally I would say our average customer kind of has an idea of what parts to get, what to put on their car. Sometimes we're giving them ideas, like we were what we're happy to walk people through, but they generally know over there it's like they just go and the first person that says something they don't, they don't question it, right. So like I have this problem where I'm all the time helping other shops that are charging outrageous rates even for over there, right, like so the labor rate over there is cheaper than ours, but even then they're like outrageously charging them and I'm walking them through how to do things on cars right, or like remotely diagnosing problems or remotely helping them install a part, and it's like you know, there's such a, there's such a potential for a market to be captured there with, especially with tuning, and everything is just, it's a, it's a marketing issue. I think you just got it. They prefer someone who's out there, which is why they want me to fly out right, like they like having me there.

Speaker 2

But then it's like when we show up, everyone's like oh yeah, you're coming, cool. And then people don't. They don't commit. But that's an issue with Dino Days in general. It's why we do the pre-deposit on all the Dino Days and we don't do it. We don't even set one up unless eight cars are confirmed. So I don't know, I guess long like long-winded response. It's more or less the same. There's just that slight cultural difference in terms of how they value the labor of, like the tuning work and all that, and then, other than that, their roads are fantastic. I mean, I took a lot of videos. Chidon will probably put them in the next video on YouTube or something about like a brief Dino Day, probably mixed that New York Diner Day and the Dubai Diner Day, and like we mixed the videos and show you guys what we were doing.

Speaker 2

Like it's like it's kind of like the Southwest where, like you're in the desert, like Nevada or something, with the power lines running through the desert and it's just, it's beautiful roads, there's no potholes, there are wide lanes. They got massive highways, just like Houston. People drive a little more aggressive like, especially during rush hour traffic. You kind of remember that you know the Easterns out of the world. People drive like that, like up your ass all the time, like they're leaving like this much space. But the only other thing is they can't really do street logs like we can, because they have speed cameras and traffic everywhere. So the Dubai has traffic like 24 hours a day, right, unless you go way out into like the desert to run. But even then in the desert every every like two kilometers they'll have a speed camera.

Speaker 1

So how do they do racing?

Speaker 2

So they, they've memorized all the speed. So everybody there just knows, like, once they pass the speed camera they hit it, they hit their race and they shut it down before the next speed camera and then like, if you get a speed it's like an automatic fine. And then they get like, and they have like noise ordinances and all the different Emirates and stuff like that. So you got to be very careful. But then they also like, they have these things but everyone still mods it. And the cool thing about Dubai is they don't put it on the business, Like here the EPA will come after us for doing Catalyst, which is why we don't, right, we don't sell Catalyst downpies, we don't do touch anything with emissions and all that over. In Dubai it's not like that. The business is not responsible, it's your responsibility as the owner of the car, which makes more sense. I don't know why. You know it's funny because like we're, like America's all about freedom, but like Dubai has more freedom in that sense for businesses. So very interesting.

Speaker 2

But yeah, they do the same kind of mods as and they're, they're 98. They, their octane is rated differently, just like the rest of the world. They use the RON method. So there's this 98, which is our 93 out here, and it's good gas. It's just the heat kills it. It's very similar to tuning cars in Texas in Houston. Like a Houston summer is about the same as Dubai during the not summer months. So like the best DA they get is like a thousand DA if they're lucky and most of the time through the summer it's like 4,000 DA for them, but it's a bit dry over there.

Speaker 1

They're going to bear it to here.

Speaker 2

No, dubai is pretty humid. They went. When they go out in the desert it gets dry, but Dubai itself is pretty humid. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah, other than that, there's they do have, they do have tracks they go to, like the Yas Marina circuit and all that, but most of it's street racing. Oh, that's what I was going to say. No one cares about times, doesn't matter, it's what.

Speaker 2

What dyno number you made, it's like the worst possible combination. So, like you know, I was showing them our super. What did you want? Like a 460 the other day, and I was showing them cause I was in Dubai and they're like, they're like, bro, I would expect it to make more horsepower.

Street Racing vs Dyno Day Comparison

Speaker 2

I'm like, really, it's got a fat power band at 780, all the way from, like what, 5k to 7K, right, but over there, like 900 horsepower, 1,000 horsepower cars don't run those times. And it's like, yeah, well, yeah, you guys just use your high reading dinos, and probably what these tuners out there are doing is making a really high dino number and then giving them like a you know, a turn down map on the street. But that's like indicative of what we've always done, though, right. So, looking out here, our dino numbers don't read high compared to a lot of shops, like we generally have lower dino numbers, but our cars perform well on the street and that's what really matters. But out there no one's dragging their car, so it's all about these bragging rights, but oh, I made this much horsepower.

Speaker 1

But what about the street racing?

Speaker 2

Don't they race each other? Yeah, they do. None of them know how to drive, man, I'll be honest, they like I watch it Like there's street, those street races like traffic. We're like they'll cut up traffic, like you know, you'll see like a bends coming up on you so you'll floor it, but like you're both like cutting through traffic. It's weird, man. It's like fast in the furious, almost. It's not really like how we have like organized run nights and all that you know. I mean I'm sure they do, but the majority of it is just in traffic and like a quick flex, like there's not. Like oh, we went at the same time. It's like you got the jump. No one really gets that right. Ok, I mean, we've seen it. Like if you get the jump on a car here, it's like a half second difference, if you know, if someone gets a big jump on you. So it makes a difference for us but I guess not for them.

Speaker 2

And then the car show scene there is interesting too. Like what's considered clean mods out there is not what I would consider a clean car out here. It's a lot more flashy, is what I'd say, and they're very much like a lot of them because they can't do the performance mods because, like a noise ordinance is everything they go the entire other way with like there's a you can see on the video but there's like this car show I went to in Ajman and they had like these Mopars and like a Mustang or something and it's like it like tacky LED lights, like RGB lighting, like it was like it was a PC build all through the car with the doors open and like the sound system was loud as shit. Like I'll give them credit, the thing was set up right but like tacky man is very tacky. It really reminds me of like the 2000s in the US for the car scene, versus where we're at now. Yeah, so yeah, that's all I got to say about Dubai. How is New York?

Speaker 1

New York was fun. While he was sweating in the desert, it was 50 to 60 degrees in New York. Damn, that's so nice. Coming from Houston, it was amazing it was nice to get away.

Speaker 2

That's good for the weather.

Speaker 1

So New York was great. It did rain on Saturday quite a bit, so a little bit cooler that day, but it was a great experience. We had, I think, 13 dinos, 13 customers on the dyno, so it was fun, it was productive. We got to meet all the DMS guys, so we worked very closely with DMS, but I was the first time I actually met them in person, so you went about a year ago, I think, up there.

Speaker 2

No, it's been two years. I went June 2021. It's been two years since I went to New York for that dyno day. Yeah.

Speaker 1

So, yeah, it was nice for me to finally get to meet the guys that I work with pretty often, and then they have a really nice facility as well. So it was fun being there and meeting all the New York guys, being able to meet customers face to face. It is nice meeting customers face to face because so much of what I do is all remote. Most of the time a customer is just a name to me, so it is so Thanks. I don't mean that in a rude way.

Speaker 2

I mean it's true. Yeah, at least there are not a number of them, it's nice to do a dyno day.

Speaker 1

You get to meet customers, you get to see the cars. Some of them have some really clean cars up there, yeah. And then it's just funny you get to run the cars, people see the numbers they make. It's just a fun outing for everyone.

Speaker 2

And then how do you compare it to other dyno?

Speaker 1

days. This one went really smoothly. So, now that we've done, how many dinos have we done now?

Speaker 2

Yeah, we don't do that many. We should probably do more, to be quite honest.

Speaker 1

But this is probably what close to eight or 10 that we've done. Total, including the ones I used to go to alone. Yeah, probably about 10. Probably about 10 now. So we're pretty fine doing it at this point. So we do a lot of prep before. Most of the most I feel like half the time we spend on a dyno day is all prep before. So we organize, we get everything up, we get customers to order, book their slots, we send out Ecutech kits.

Speaker 2

I'll get the model list, I'll give them a base file and I'll do if I can, we'll do some logging before to make sure there aren't any issues, and the reason we do that is when I used to go early on on the dyno I was like, oh yeah, customers are great, I trust everyone. People would no show. So we'd lose out on slots and I always prepaid for the dyno, so that's gone. And then you show up and then your mods would be incorrectly, and so the worst was always heat exchanges. Bro, bleeding heat exchange on the dyno.

Speaker 1

That's the biggest thing we do is prep for that. So belts are the other issue, but the biggest thing you can avoid is a P14AC. Make sure the car doesn't have any codes, make sure it doesn't have any boost leaks. All that is accomplished with one data log before that, or low pressure pump's not working. So, yeah, we can. With just one data log before the dyno, we can solve a lot of issues, and the only one that you can't really fix is gonna be if a belt shreds on dyno. Luckily, in this case we didn't have any, really, wow.

Speaker 2

So every other dyno we've ever done, we've had a belt shred.

Speaker 1

That's amazing.

Speaker 2

You didn't have a single one shred. No, yeah, no, belt shred, wow, yeah. So.

Speaker 1

So, yeah, it was overall very successful dyno day. A lot of fun, I enjoyed the weather, I enjoyed the meeting, all the customers. I think it was a very successful dyno day.

Speaker 2

Do we have any fast cars? I know some of them didn't want us to talk about their car, so you can't say who it was, I guess.

Speaker 1

Yeah, so we did do a Z1 car. That one had a little bit of turbo.

Speaker 3

Z1 turbo.

Speaker 1

That one had a little bit of issues so it wasn't perfect. He wants to keep the numbers private so I'm not going to say. But otherwise we had an RT car that made 600 at the wheels?

Speaker 2

Oh, 600. That's funny. I didn't want to Dubai, that made 600 at the wheels. Yeah, I beat you, you did, yeah, but you had better weather. But.

Speaker 1

I was like 100 degrees. I didn't count. Numbers are numbers. I don't know what you mean by whatever.

Speaker 2

Yeah, whatever man. Anyway, yeah, it was the one I did was.

Speaker 1

RT V2s. I think that's what this one was.

Speaker 2

Yeah, good turbos. They're still good for sub 600s, I think.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's just a very good setup for a nice responsive turbo and a good power band.

Speaker 2

And then you did Jesse Grant's car right now on our dyno. I like that. So we were always learning as we kind of go ahead. And now that the Z1 turbos exist, there's no reason to push pure turbos harder. So what we tell customers now is I'll try to go ahead.

Speaker 1

Yeah, so that's really the thing is, as we've learned over the years of learning, the limits so even the peers were having was chasing numbers. So pushing a pure to a high number is not the best. The pure is very happy.

Speaker 3

Like 650.

Speaker 1

About 650 or a little bit less in just a flat power band. So I did two pure turbos this last week and both of them were right around. One was 650, and I think the other one was about 640 or 630.

Speaker 2

And the power band is beautiful, I saw the graph because obviously I wasn't in here, because I'm always at home now.

Speaker 1

And then it's 6,000. Up is just a flat power band. Yeah, beautiful, Torque is really really flat. It's just a very nice power band. You still get nice response with the pure, so you can still as long as you don't want to push too much power, you can have a nice, responsive, comfortable, powerful PS2 car. You still do have a little bit of that limitation in Wastegate as far as low boost goes, but it is still a very solid turbo.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and then RTs we still recommend for like mid-fives, like maybe six if you really want to push it, but like RTs are super happy at mid-fives.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I'd say 550 on an RT 630 on a PS2, and then about high sixes on a Z1. If you're pushing 700 real horsepower, that is pushing the car, no matter what turbo you have. Z1s full frames Any full frame pushing over 700 is relatively pushing the car.

Speaker 2

Yeah, speaking of which, how's Alex the guy out so many Alexes in my life, jesus Christ? Alex the guy out in Florida, the car built by 1320. I saw you put Bellix on it, did he? Has he run any new cars? I don't think he's run anything recently. I'm still waiting.

Speaker 1

I want to see like a mid-five out of that car Waiting for the weather to get cool. He's like South Florida.

Speaker 2

I think a mid-five is like completely doable on a stock motor car like that.

Speaker 1

I think he already has done a 6.3 with the Z1s on there in the heat in like 2500 DA.

Speaker 2

I'm excited to see it drop into the fives, for sure. And then Brito. I want to see a mid-five out of his Z2. That's the other thing. Brito was full weight at the track. You know what those things are pigs bro.

Speaker 1

It was what?

Speaker 2

35 on the car Bro yeah, on the scales he was 35. Like that's more than hours. Yeah, that's more than hours, but also 35 is heavy as hell for the Z. That's like a Q50 rear wheel drive is about 35, 36.

Speaker 1

About 36,. You can pull a weight and get it down to that.

Speaker 2

So, like there's gutted rear wheel drive cues that are lighter than Zs, which is, you know, that's not how it should be. Nissan, he dropped the ball with that Like he dropped the ball with everything else.

Speaker 1

But yeah, this winter will be interesting because this is going to be the first winter with Z1 turbos out there readily available.

Speaker 2

We're going to start seeing a lot of cues dropping into five Like oh my god, like you know, the B58 crazy the old cues are in the fives.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I expect to see a lot of. We'll get several five seconds or 60 to 130s, and we'll probably hit a few nines this winter.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that'll be exciting, man, It'll be exciting. The Z1s are opening up a lot, so, yeah, I don't have anything else to talk about. Man, Did you?

Speaker 3

Well, the Supra, however, at 469.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, so OK. So the Supra OK. So on the topic of B58s, chirang Supra has been on the same tune for over a year, yeah, since ADCO, since we made 780 the first time it was. We tuned it right before ADCO. Yeah, when he still had it it was on the 6466. And we tuned it here and then we tuned it at RT tuning just a double check something before he ran it, and back then it made 780. So it's been on that same power 780 All the way until I hit you dinod it like I don't know a couple, like last month, and for some reason it made 740 with a manifold on it which made no sense.

Speaker 2

But then so his car was always in in good DA, like zero DA, while spinning he would run like a 49, and then in the summer he was running like a 5, 4, 6, it, 130, and then now in like 2500 DA, he put a manifold on it, dinod less, but then he ran a 489 like his exact PB, again, while hooking in, like hot weather, and then when it's cooler outside he ran a 4, 6, 9, but he still can't hook. So I think, I think for like, that's pretty quick for a 64, 66 car man.

Car Modifications, Racing, and Transmission Issues

Speaker 1

It's and shows the consistency of it. Yeah, the only thing that's really changed in the years been some minor supporting mods, the biggest thing being that manifold.

Speaker 2

Yeah, how many times have you raced the car like how in the last year? How many drag is have you done?

Speaker 3

I. Probably like 100 once you get the PB.

Speaker 2

Yeah, you probably done, probably a hundred. Okay, I'll say a hundred and then, how many times have you run the car?

Speaker 1

Yeah, a lot of races, yeah he goes out.

Speaker 2

Like when it's cool weather outside, this guy's out even in the summer. He doesn't stop. He still goes out all the time. Yeah, so it's like super, super consistent, super reliable. It's been good man, I'm not gonna look, they can't hear, but like they should be able to hear you a little bit.

Speaker 3

But like the thing is, I don't get that many races as people think I do. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2

The only way everyone a race or people who like run, they know they're gonna be like you'll have like a three second vet they go the race box super won't line up with me.

Speaker 1

Yeah, that was me. What's back, coyotes I go, that's right. Yeah, it's like it's not a race bro.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I mean I kind of said to you one of my boys on time, just for fun that was, but like Joel was cool about it, yeah, yeah, yeah, joel's cool about it. He knew he was gonna gap you. This is a fun run. But there's guys out there like they act all tub, like oh, race box won't race us. It's like bro, what is the point if we know you're like that much faster?

Speaker 1

We post all of our times run, hiding anything right, but I think he's pretty much always down to race.

Speaker 2

He's. I mean, he's always down, yeah, as long as the person's not a dick. But you know it's a good race with 370 Z trash and he was a. He was a good sport about it too. He didn't like hide behind it. Oh, I'm not posting it or anything like it was. That was a fun race and those are. Those are two well-matched cars. Yeah, dude knows how to drive like shifting was fantastic on his part.

Speaker 1

But yeah, and that shows a difference in power band. So the Supra's just flat power band. Yeah, he's a lot of top-end, yeah, and so you could tell with the Z every right at the right, before he has to shift, he starts to reel back because he has all that top-end power but he shifts and he's lower in the power band, where the Supra just a flat power band across the board.

Speaker 3

There's a built motor like 900 horsepower something 98, 90 on the dyno, but I think this they turn it up since then. Oh, okay he's. And now he's on night in nitrous as well. He didn't want the nitrous.

Speaker 2

Yeah, well, he would have gap to his nitrous for sure. Yeah, but no, I think the next step for the super, if we do anything, you gotta traction arms, bro. Get that gonna hook better and then let's see if you can cut it down. I think in good, da that thing has like a four or five in it. You guys want to something funny.

Speaker 3

Why just order today? Traction arms, nose, the transmission mount. I broke my chest. No, oh really, you know the whole time we're racing and running. After the drive, I want to the trans mount a piece of it's chip now board and so it's only mounted on one side. That's how I'm not dying, jesus.

Speaker 2

Christ, okay, so I'll take that back. The engine is reliable. Every other part of this car.

Speaker 1

You can tell. You can tell the car was designed for like 400 horsepower, 800 the wheels is what, like nine, it makes like 900 cranks.

Speaker 2

So you know actually speaking of which, what really pisses me off About the Z? I'm gonna say this again we shouldn't have to do diff bushings on stock turbos for a one five sixty foot. I'm sorry. Queues have been cutting one fives and one fours forever on stock bushing, stock diff Everything. They don't have any issues how the fuck is a Z built weaker?

Speaker 3

And those the queues way more than the queues way more to.

Speaker 2

You would expect them to break more stuff, but they don't. I, honestly, man like having a Z has made me appreciate the queue platform so much more.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, the Z is not, is not move miles ahead of the queue. It's really like it's right there with it.

Speaker 2

Yeah it looks nice and it's like all retro styling we get. Cloud is not a lot, but like, honestly, if I had to pick and go back when I'd buy a rat it out, rear-wheel drive Q50 and just like Full send it man, like it's not worth it, like people are still paying 60k for Z's, the nizmo. I mean, we'll see how the nizmo trans is but, like I've said it before, the Z trans is dog. I missed the seven speed.

Speaker 1

There's sense people a little bit easier work with the the nine speed. The close ratio helps but it's a very picky transmission.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's good for literally just drag racing, Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1

And even then it's like the one is still very hard shift a lot of times.

Speaker 2

You can still break traction and I wish we could just have a trans soon on it and then, and then you know, left leave in second gear.

Speaker 1

But yeah, they don't. Don't get started on trans tunes. We'll get a lot of questions.

Speaker 2

I know, I'm so glad people have stopped asking, bro. They did nothing, came out of it Nothing, nothing about it. Yeah.

Speaker 1

HP tuners posted. I don't know you shouldn't say this public HP Tuners.

Speaker 2

Hp tuners posted and then they didn't really I followed up multiple times when I mean I've sent emails, I've called, there's nothing happening. Man, yeah, I, we're waiting. If it comes out I'll tune. It doesn't, whatever?

Speaker 1

Yeah we are almost in the blue as much as a customer.

Speaker 2

Mm-hmm Yep pretty much. Anyway, that's that's that's our updates, that's, that's the podcast 10-15 minutes and answer those random questions.

Speaker 3

We are where they at.

Speaker 2

Okay, I plan on getting boosted six intakes for my cue, but I live in Arizona. It's 100 out in October. Think I'd need a heat shield for the backside. Is this on YouTube or is it?

Speaker 1

YouTube or.

Speaker 2

Instagram, youtube. I don't know why I asked. That doesn't matter for the. Think I need a shut up, think I need a heat shield for the backside of the filters. I suppose it would be pretty easy to make them out of aluminum sheet, but then again it's tight as hell in there and I don't want to block airflow. I got a good size heat exchanger. It's a FB type 108. Thoughts on that. Okay, I love the FB type 108. Run it front mount, run it in conjunction with a secondary pump, if you don't have it in a red sport, and the stock you'd exchange. That's what I ran on my old red sport. That moonshine so graciously boomed for me, going to 183 miles an hour. You wanted to test the top speed. He thought he was running the Texas mile. Anyway, you don't need to do all that, man. None matter. We've run open intakes, we've run closed intakes. Yeah, your IIT spike up when you're sitting in traffic the minute and moving.

Speaker 1

It doesn't matter. It's not a crazy spike is even. Even the enclosed intakes whenever you're sitting will will go up in temp, so it's not that much hotter. Yeah, I don't think we ever really got too much in on it, but it's really not much hotter whenever you're just sitting there. Once you get moving, the temps dropped very quickly.

Speaker 2

Our opinion on the matter is you don't. Other tuners have different opinions, you know, take it or leave it, but we, you don't need to do all that. Man, if you want, it might look cool, you know, and you might. You might get a little bit better, but you're not shielding it from anything Once you're moving. There's so much airflow going through that.

Speaker 2

It doesn't matter, let's see, damn, when are you guys coming back to so Cal? And we commented maybe next year We'll post updates on our Instagram for future dinodays. And he said, okay, thanks, yeah, okay, wait. So Cal guys, you guys suck. You guys tell me to come out every time We've been out there the most and it's always people flake, bro. So, no, I'm not doing so unless you guys come through with 12 cars ready to go that are confirmed, and then I'll come to so Cal that the final say on that, bro, like I am tired of going to so Cal and getting cucked by you guys.

Speaker 2

Would doing a bov delete affect how much pop? Oh there's. Oh, he has a z. It shouldn't affect power. It will affect fuel trims though, because the car, the Z's, are tuned from factory for bovs and they have what, like it's a research, it's a research setup. Well, so you could delete it, but you should keep the bovs on there because it's a true research setup and there's actual tables. Like I can control your bov Via the tune, which is fantastic. That's what you want with that. So it's not gonna affect the power on that, like I guess, if you're getting turbos that require you to delete the bov, then do it, but otherwise I mean it's fine, I would, I would leave it on there. It's not gonna hurt power, though, for sure, and if you're on a Q50, don't do bovs. The only thing that's gonna hurt power is a boost leak. Boost leaks always hurt power. Yes, it's sad that we have to say that's how stupid it is that we have to sit here and tell our customers that a boost leak affects power and you have a boosting way.

Speaker 2

With both of us and without we're not being facetious either, like I've had customers who are like so back in the early days when, like you know, race box wasn't so big, they'd be like well, my previous tuner had me pushing more boost. Why do you have this problem? Like well, I can tell you, based on your waste gates, that you have a boost leak based on your mods. You know what I made more problem again, I can roast your in turbos too. Why not Language and then? And then you know I just blows up. So boost leaks cause you power. Don't tell us, just turn it up. When we tell you there's a boost leak, nice, but why the bead logs run 11 second car? Because we can't.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah 10 second, you know what, though?

Speaker 2

like I think people who say this have like a misunderstanding of what bead locks are for. Right like you can have a car that's not incredibly fast but that has enough torque on the hit, and if the prep is good enough, the tire will spin on the rim. Like, yeah, there's like glue and other ways that you can mount the tires, but just get bead locks.

Speaker 1

On the last Z, we were spinning the tires, yeah like we've measured this.

Speaker 2

I don't know why it's such a contested thing. I was like, oh, what are your bead locks on a Z Like? Also like people were like oh, why do you have a 12 second car when we have a video of it running 10s?

Speaker 1

Even so, this is not the end goal of this car. This is a temporary yeah. It's set up for big turbos and everything.

Speaker 2

Why would I spend? Well, I did spend on wheels twice, but one on club wheels. They're not meant for drag racing. So yeah, for my actual drag set. Why would I buy two sets of wheels just to appease your ego?

Exhaust Setups and Fuel Pump Comparisons

Speaker 1

Yeah, why buy one set and then, whenever you get the power and move on.

Speaker 3

Look at it, look at it, it's common.

Speaker 2

Let me see.

Speaker 1

Where can I get this? No, that's not it. There's one defending us?

Speaker 2

I don't see it. Oh, this is the TikTok one. Okay, oh yeah, this guy. This guy was such a oh God beat locks in a car that makes mid 400s that most is crazy. First of all, almost made five, get that right, and my dyno reads low. I'll take it to your dyno probably read more. They already make 400 and it's race box tune E85 is easy. Oh see, the guy said it for me.

Speaker 1

Crazy, he made 490. Okay.

Speaker 2

Yo, I wanna find this slow guy guy and see what dyno he runs on, because I guarantee RZ would make more power on that dyno Convenient. You don't mention this because of the wheel torque you made. Yeah, also that it's about the torque, it's not about the horsepower. If I make 600 wheel torque at 3000 RPM, that is enough. With good enough prep to spin the tire on the wheel, it's gonna happen. You clearly have no experience with fast cars. If you think the car doesn't need a bead lock, anyway.

Speaker 1

We got more questions. Yeah, yeah, I know.

Speaker 2

I scrolled down to get to that one. Oh God, this is so tough Question, okay.

Speaker 1

Where can I get this exact? I'm trying to read.

Speaker 2

There you go.

Speaker 1

Where can I get this exhaust setup? I just got my Z. This is what I need. It's a custom exhaust, but you can copy it. It's what it's three inch.

Speaker 2

We should just get it made, bro. You might get it made in China. I mean, I'm not gonna lie, everything's made in China, I'm gonna. I'll just get it made in China, if you guys want it. There's enough people asking. We give a nice little answer and fortunately not after that or something. You let me know next time we answer that, bro.

Speaker 1

I'll also explain what it is. It's a three inch four down pipes three inch. Y pipe into a fourth single.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay Important. When people talk about the size of a Y pipe, they usually mean single. So are those technically a four inch Y pipe? Yeah, it's a three inch dual into a four inch single on the Y pipe, and then it's a four inch all the way back to just a single. What five inch resonator.

Speaker 1

Muffler resonator. It's a four inch, though A four inch.

Speaker 2

A four inch, but what's up outside there? I'm like five right, it's a fart can resonator. Basically it's JDM. But yeah, it's really cheap to make. It's been made for like 800 bucks, I think, With all the labor and everything. The comparison of Xtreme DI versus Spool versus AMS. Oh yeah, they all make the same flow.

Speaker 1

It depends on the version. So the FX170, the RA, oh no, no, so the AMS stage one, the Spool FX170 and the XDI, it's called the 170 now.

Speaker 2

Yeah, why did everybody? Yo can I just say something. We're vendors for all three of these companies. Can you all please stop changing the names? It's so confusing because then customers go to old websites where someone has an update. How does this compare to that one? And I'm like bro.

Speaker 1

Right.

Speaker 3

It's so hard.

Speaker 2

Should I go longer or?

Speaker 1

shorter on this, let's go longer.

Speaker 3

Okay, the.

Speaker 1

FX150, it turned into the FX170 with some changes. I believe the FX180 is now the FX200, with changes. So it's not a name. It's more than a name change, but essentially that size pump has now been replaced with, so the 180 was replaced.

Speaker 2

But it's not a bigger pump.

Speaker 3

It's a bigger pump.

Speaker 1

I'm wording this all wrong. 200 is a bigger pump, but the 200 replaced what the 180 was.

Speaker 3

I see so the 170 replaced the 150.

Speaker 1

So everything went a step up. Yeah, so. And then the RA338 for AMS is now the stage one, and then XDI has the 35. So the stage one, the FX170 and the XDI35 are all going to perform very similarly, xdi hasn't changed their name.

Speaker 2

Thank you, xdi, for not changing your names.

Speaker 1

Those three will perform very similarly. Xdi has a mid-level and second, the AMS has an EVO too. Ams has a stage two. Those two will also be very similar. Spool does not have a mid-level and then we jump up to the high end of it, the AMS. Stage three, the XDI 60 and the Spool FX 200. Those all perform very, very similarly as well.

Speaker 2

We get the same power out of all of them.

Speaker 1

Yes, so I like all of them. They have slightly different warranties.

Speaker 2

They all based on what company you like and what customer service you like. More that's what I'd say.

Speaker 1

We sell all three, so buy them through us.

Parts Sales and Audi Performance Discussion

Speaker 2

Yeah, whatever you do, just buy them through us, please. People don't know we sell parts. You know we should not tell people. We're a vendor for everybody. We just don't push it because I don't know, but we sell parts. You don't go elsewhere to buy parts, you can just buy them from us.

Speaker 1

And if you want to.

Speaker 2

You know, I made those freaking RBO packages and no one ever advertised them.

Speaker 1

Yeah, if you want to bundle parts with tuning and all that, if you're full of, we even have a website where you can go.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it's called go raceboxcom productrbo. It's literally like it lets you select everything you want. Is that up and running? It's been up and running, bro. No one's bought it. I haven't even seen it. You know what? It's Mo's fault. I'm going to call Mo and yell at him after this.

Speaker 1

Mo's not here to defend himself, so it's all Mo's fault.

Speaker 2

It's always Mo's fault. All right, that's it.

Speaker 3

That's all you're going to end up with yeah, we're going to wrap it up.

Speaker 2

Cool, join us next time. I don't know what we'll talk about. Oh, the Audi's going to run the Audi we call it now the S8, the boat. It went from being called the S8 to the boat, to Audi, now Like HAUDI, like a meme, like Audi. Anyway, the Audi's going to run a fucking 5'9" Right Shenong.

Speaker 3

What do you want?

Speaker 2

You're going to take it, get it to a half tank and run a 5'9" when it cools down.

Speaker 1

Where do you?

Speaker 2

think you're going to second from I'm not, it's at 6'5". Oh, it's not. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 3

Well, I ran a 6'5' the other day.

Speaker 2

All right, DA also. I'm going to get it from DA. Like it literally before it would go from a 7'8" to a 6'9" If DA was high, like 3,000 DA versus 0 DA. It's going to run again yeah, DA it's going to run a 9 second pass.

Speaker 3

I want to see a 4'9" Shut up.

Speaker 2

You want to build the motor, anyway, bye.

Speaker 3

I know what that was.

Speaker 1

I talk all the shit as if I have something fast.

Speaker 2

He has the slowest cars. Out of everybody here, his cars are the slowest.