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safe."},{"startTime":3057.78,"endTime":3060.8,"body":"So it is a lot of functions and"},{"startTime":3060.8,"endTime":3066.52,"body":"the fashion industry, through decisions they had made"},{"startTime":3066.52,"endTime":3074.72,"body":"going to overseas for cheaper goods, everything got"},{"startTime":3074.72,"endTime":3075.12,"body":"debased."},{"startTime":3075.12,"endTime":3077.1,"body":"Everything has become disposable."},{"startTime":3077.32,"endTime":3080.8,"body":"Actually, we've had two generations now where it's"},{"startTime":3080.8,"endTime":3083.46,"body":"quick fix pocket money, isn't it, rather than"},{"startTime":3083.46,"endTime":3083.9,"body":"longevity."},{"startTime":3084.18,"endTime":3086.14,"body":"So we've got the answers, I think."},{"startTime":3086.24,"endTime":3087.04,"body":"And we do have the answers."},{"startTime":3087.08,"endTime":3090.4,"body":"For me, that's no one can trim or"},{"startTime":3090.4,"endTime":3092.18,"body":"pom-pom or embellish like we 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of"},{"startTime":3119.2,"endTime":3119.66,"body":"you guys."},{"startTime":3120.12,"endTime":3122.42,"body":"Yeah, it's a cool place to do it"},{"startTime":3122.42,"endTime":3122.66,"body":"here."},{"startTime":3123.04,"endTime":3123.4,"body":"Absolutely."},{"startTime":3127.3,"endTime":3130.08,"body":"So thank you so much for joining me"},{"startTime":3130.08,"endTime":3130.36,"body":"tonight."},{"startTime":3133.46,"endTime":3134.06,"body":"Bye."}]}