WEBVTT 00:00:03.759 --> 00:00:06.719 Hey everybody, welcome to Austin Avenue Unplugged. 00:00:06.799 --> 00:00:08.800 We have had a busy week at the office. 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:11.919 At the time of recording this, we are on spring break. 00:00:12.240 --> 00:00:13.919 All the kids around Brownwood are cheering. 00:00:14.160 --> 00:00:17.120 All of the teachers are like, dang, it's Friday or spring break. 00:00:17.280 --> 00:00:17.440 Yes. 00:00:17.679 --> 00:00:19.120 We have to go back in three days. 00:00:19.440 --> 00:00:24.239 Everybody else who works is like, my my husband and my son are at home and I have to go to work. 00:00:24.480 --> 00:00:24.800 Yeah. 00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:25.120 Yeah. 00:00:25.440 --> 00:00:25.679 True. 00:00:25.839 --> 00:00:26.320 It's just normal. 00:00:26.640 --> 00:00:38.799 I have talked to a lot of parents this week about like if they're excited when spring break comes around, and they're usually really excited about the trips that they have, or like if families are coming in, they get to see their cousins, but they're like, Yeah, I still have to work. 00:00:39.039 --> 00:00:39.600 You still have to work. 00:00:39.759 --> 00:00:41.039 And my kids have to stay at home. 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:44.079 And immediately when they come home, it's like, oh, let's go and do something. 00:00:44.159 --> 00:00:46.479 It's like, I just worked for eight hours straight. 00:00:46.560 --> 00:00:46.640 Yeah. 00:00:46.880 --> 00:00:48.799 And now I'm babysitting my kids. 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:50.640 No, not babysitting, you're raising your kids. 00:00:50.960 --> 00:00:51.280 Well, yeah. 00:00:51.520 --> 00:00:55.759 I I've noticed that Donita gets so many phone calls from her children. 00:00:57.200 --> 00:00:58.320 That's you want to get if they're in school. 00:00:58.799 --> 00:00:59.520 That's right, that's right. 00:00:59.920 --> 00:01:01.039 What do you want now? 00:01:01.840 --> 00:01:03.200 No, it's fine. 00:01:03.359 --> 00:01:04.799 Don't hit your brother. 00:01:05.200 --> 00:01:12.159 So as a parent of a high schooler, a middle schooler, and an elementary kid, do y'all view spring break differently? 00:01:12.480 --> 00:01:16.719 Well, they have, and I'll I'll use this in quotes they have built-in babysitting. 00:01:16.959 --> 00:01:18.959 Uh at least Gracie does. 00:01:19.120 --> 00:01:26.480 Uh Lily came back from her trip, so she's at home, and Gracie's at home, and mom's at home, and so I don't have to deal with those phone calls. 00:01:26.719 --> 00:01:27.200 That's very true. 00:01:27.439 --> 00:01:28.879 Except I got a really good one a minute ago. 00:01:28.959 --> 00:01:31.840 They're like, hey, you want to join us for lunch at the train station? 00:01:31.920 --> 00:01:32.640 I'm like, Yes. 00:01:32.959 --> 00:01:34.000 Yes, yes, I do. 00:01:34.879 --> 00:01:35.519 That sounds great. 00:01:35.760 --> 00:01:45.439 So yeah, other than that, no, I I come home and and they're all just sprawled out on the couch watching like I think Gracie's in kind of a Marvel run. 00:01:45.519 --> 00:01:50.640 And so that Spider-Man was, I don't know where that puts him in the whole energy. 00:01:51.120 --> 00:01:56.480 Yeah, so so anyway, so yeah, I it that hasn't changed a lot for me. 00:01:56.799 --> 00:02:01.040 I couldn't think of a better way to end a a work week than going to the train for lunch. 00:02:01.760 --> 00:02:02.079 I know. 00:02:02.480 --> 00:02:02.799 I know. 00:02:02.959 --> 00:02:03.599 I'm excited. 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:04.959 I hope we can hurry up. 00:02:05.040 --> 00:02:06.239 Um I may just go sit there. 00:02:06.480 --> 00:02:08.080 I may just crash your party in January. 00:02:09.280 --> 00:02:10.000 That sounds great. 00:02:10.319 --> 00:02:12.240 Doug's gonna walk in like, sorry, family. 00:02:13.039 --> 00:02:14.639 I invited the entire office. 00:02:14.800 --> 00:02:15.759 I couldn't stop. 00:02:18.479 --> 00:02:21.360 Is Trine pretty busy over spring break with sports? 00:02:22.800 --> 00:02:22.960 Okay. 00:02:23.439 --> 00:02:25.199 I don't think he played a lot of tennis this time. 00:02:25.360 --> 00:02:25.520 Yeah. 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:27.520 Just some pickleball and hanging out with friends. 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:27.759 Yeah. 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:28.960 They're headed to Abling today. 00:02:29.199 --> 00:02:31.280 But no like school-sanctioned events. 00:02:31.599 --> 00:02:32.719 No, no, they gave him a break. 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:34.159 That's good for them. 00:02:34.240 --> 00:02:34.319 Yeah. 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:38.960 Hey, were your feelings hurt that Tron didn't invite you to play pickleball with him this week? 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:39.199 No. 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:42.800 Jobs would have been blinded if I asked me Tron playing pickleball. 00:02:43.199 --> 00:02:44.159 I was the other day. 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:45.360 Ask me that question. 00:02:45.919 --> 00:02:46.080 Oh. 00:02:46.400 --> 00:02:46.800 Douglas. 00:02:47.199 --> 00:02:47.759 Yeah. 00:02:48.080 --> 00:02:54.159 Were your feelings in any way, big or small, a little hurt by trying not inviting you to play pickleball? 00:02:54.400 --> 00:02:55.919 You know, I'm glad you asked that question. 00:02:56.319 --> 00:02:57.120 Absolutely yes. 00:02:57.599 --> 00:02:58.719 Trying to hope you hear this. 00:02:58.800 --> 00:02:59.759 Like I was weeping. 00:02:59.840 --> 00:03:06.000 Like I fell asleep crying into my pillow last night when I heard that you played pickleball and you didn't invite me. 00:03:06.159 --> 00:03:09.680 Your dad said, Yeah, Tron invited his friends to play pickleball. 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:12.639 And I'm like, Am I not your friend, Tron? 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:13.599 Nope, I'm not. 00:03:13.759 --> 00:03:17.759 I'm the really old guy who yells at him for 25 minutes every Sunday. 00:03:18.000 --> 00:03:21.759 I actually did not play a little bit of this pickleball that they were playing. 00:03:21.840 --> 00:03:22.319 Yeah. 00:03:22.639 --> 00:03:27.120 And for the sake of the residents of Brownwood, I'm glad you weren't there. 00:03:27.840 --> 00:03:29.439 It was shirts versus kids. 00:03:30.240 --> 00:03:31.919 And I think everyone was on the shirt. 00:03:32.800 --> 00:03:33.919 On the skin steam. 00:03:35.520 --> 00:03:40.479 Like somebody like, yeah, you could have like opened up your window and like, why are there fluorescent tubes out there? 00:03:40.719 --> 00:03:42.319 Like, I came home a little sunburned. 00:03:44.000 --> 00:03:44.639 All over. 00:03:45.120 --> 00:03:47.599 You could see the farmer's hand from across the block. 00:03:48.719 --> 00:03:51.599 The forearms looked appropriate color. 00:03:53.599 --> 00:03:55.439 He's wearing a really white shirt. 00:03:57.520 --> 00:04:07.680 I used to have a yellow t-shirt that was just like just enough of my skin color that at first glance of someone driving by, you would think I was not wearing a shirt. 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:10.719 But it had black words on it, so it's like, did you tattoo? 00:04:14.159 --> 00:04:15.680 Oh, that's a great idea. 00:04:15.919 --> 00:04:18.079 I'm there's something in the works now. 00:04:18.800 --> 00:04:21.279 Everybody else is getting shirts for different things. 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:22.720 Lance has a shirt. 00:04:23.360 --> 00:04:23.920 You have a shirt. 00:04:24.240 --> 00:04:24.959 He does have a shirt. 00:04:25.120 --> 00:04:26.000 I have one of his shirt. 00:04:26.319 --> 00:04:26.480 Yeah. 00:04:28.240 --> 00:04:31.680 I still don't know who started that whole thing, but oh, I know what I'm gonna say. 00:04:32.399 --> 00:04:34.000 We're not gonna rant him out on the project. 00:04:34.399 --> 00:04:38.639 All I know is if I was in college, I would get like NIL money for that. 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:44.959 Name image likeness, but I'm not in college, so I got nothing for people wearing my face on their shirt. 00:04:45.519 --> 00:04:46.000 That's too bad. 00:04:46.240 --> 00:04:46.959 I'm really sad about that. 00:04:47.279 --> 00:04:48.720 And Lance's is in fish form. 00:04:48.800 --> 00:04:52.399 That is yeah, it's not even what uh what about yours? 00:04:52.560 --> 00:04:54.879 Do y'all have any elementary spring break? 00:04:55.360 --> 00:04:55.759 Elementary. 00:04:56.079 --> 00:04:59.920 Uh well, we're going camping this weekend, and I'm super excited. 00:05:00.319 --> 00:05:12.240 Um now that now that I work and I have to take days off, I'm really reluctant to take those days off until we've planned accordingly, like this early in the in the year. 00:05:12.399 --> 00:05:15.839 So we're just taking a weekend, kinda skipping out on some stuff. 00:05:16.079 --> 00:05:16.240 Yeah. 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:19.519 And um we're going to the state park. 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:20.480 Super excited. 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:21.600 I love the lake. 00:05:21.920 --> 00:05:34.000 And it'll be nice to to set up camp for more than a night and and relax and have no TV, have no screens, and just kinda just kind of enjoy each other. 00:05:34.879 --> 00:05:41.279 Okay, so just give me, you said set up camp, so give me a little I mean, are we talking about like tents? 00:05:41.439 --> 00:05:42.480 Are we what are we talking about? 00:05:42.560 --> 00:05:42.639 Okay. 00:05:43.040 --> 00:05:44.560 Uh Aaron and I will be in a tent. 00:05:44.720 --> 00:05:46.319 Gordon is gonna put up his tent. 00:05:46.720 --> 00:05:52.959 We got new cots because we're old and we do not need to sleep on air mattresses anymore. 00:05:53.600 --> 00:05:54.879 Um so excited. 00:05:55.040 --> 00:05:59.120 So we got cots and we got Aaron got us memory foam toppers. 00:05:59.519 --> 00:05:59.680 Okay. 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:01.600 And it's so comfortable. 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:07.839 I've never I've never slept on anything that wasn't a bed that that w was that comfortable. 00:06:08.000 --> 00:06:08.079 Yeah. 00:06:08.240 --> 00:06:10.720 Like no hip pain, no shoulder pain. 00:06:11.120 --> 00:06:12.399 That makes a big difference. 00:06:12.959 --> 00:06:13.759 A huge difference. 00:06:14.160 --> 00:06:15.360 So I'm I'm very excited. 00:06:15.519 --> 00:06:15.680 Yeah. 00:06:15.920 --> 00:06:18.800 Uh so yes, we'll each we'll each have our own tents. 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:22.240 I have a kitchen set up that I will get to test out. 00:06:22.959 --> 00:06:27.600 Um some new gear that I've used once, so it'll be fun to use it again. 00:06:28.160 --> 00:06:29.040 Um I'm yeah. 00:06:29.439 --> 00:06:29.680 Okay. 00:06:29.920 --> 00:06:34.720 So after you join us at the train station today, then we're gonna join you for camping. 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:37.439 Hey, so how many memory foam? 00:06:38.399 --> 00:06:39.360 Well, we only have three. 00:06:39.759 --> 00:06:39.920 Okay. 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:46.560 Well, you know, I don't know which one of your family members won't get one, but I'm uh as long as I get mine, I'm senior. 00:06:47.759 --> 00:06:50.000 Well, then that I guess that means Gordon doesn't get one. 00:06:52.480 --> 00:06:54.959 Uh well, that seems pretty intense. 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:55.439 Yeah. 00:06:55.759 --> 00:06:56.160 Anyone? 00:06:56.399 --> 00:06:56.639 Thank you. 00:06:56.800 --> 00:06:57.040 Thank you. 00:06:57.199 --> 00:06:57.680 Appreciate that. 00:06:58.079 --> 00:07:07.759 It'll be very Hey, if you're listening, like it wasn't just this awkward sound, like everybody had a pain look on their face when Jow said that. 00:07:08.079 --> 00:07:08.879 Everybody dropped their heads. 00:07:09.120 --> 00:07:11.839 Yeah, it's just like their kids went down and their eyes went down. 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:15.680 I know in post-production, Sarah's gonna be like, Wow, wow. 00:07:17.439 --> 00:07:22.480 If I can find the free noise to do that, I found an elephant once. 00:07:22.800 --> 00:07:24.160 Well, I found this interesting. 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:30.319 Like this whole week I've been asking people, or especially last week when spring break started, if they had any plans or anything exciting. 00:07:30.480 --> 00:07:33.120 And a vast majority of families said, no. 00:07:33.600 --> 00:07:34.720 We're gonna stay home. 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:37.040 Yeah, we're gonna hopefully enjoy one another. 00:07:37.360 --> 00:07:44.079 But even if we don't, we're still gonna stay at home and we're gonna watch some shows or get some chores done, do some spring cleaning. 00:07:44.160 --> 00:07:44.560 Yeah, yeah. 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:46.959 And every kid was excited about that last one. 00:07:47.600 --> 00:07:55.839 But last year, I remember around this time, we were going to Cayenta, Arizona, and to Mesa, Arizona, over a spring break mission trip. 00:07:56.079 --> 00:08:00.160 And we were thinking about kind of like the timing of it and the rhythm of it. 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:04.000 Um, if we do it every year, then families never get a spring break. 00:08:04.319 --> 00:08:05.920 They never get to go out and travel. 00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:07.279 LTC with Easter. 00:08:09.199 --> 00:08:11.759 We don't want to be away for every Easter Sunday. 00:08:11.920 --> 00:08:12.079 Right. 00:08:12.399 --> 00:08:22.959 And so we decided that every other year, so in not in 2026, but in 25 and in 27, 29, the odd years, we're gonna take a long mission trip over spring break. 00:08:23.279 --> 00:08:25.199 That way the other years people can travel. 00:08:25.519 --> 00:08:37.600 Well, last year when we were doing the Arizona thing, there were a lot of families that were like, Man, we would actually really love to go, but we have plans, so we can't this time, but we would love to go next time. 00:08:37.679 --> 00:08:42.960 And they were kind of heartbroken that they were traveling and that they couldn't go. 00:08:43.200 --> 00:08:43.519 Yeah. 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:48.159 And then this year comes around and we're not having a mission trip, and everyone's like, Yep, staying in. 00:08:49.120 --> 00:08:50.240 Not going anywhere. 00:08:51.360 --> 00:09:02.240 Although didn't you have a few people, uh, not to embarrass anyone, but a few people who asked, like uh like on Friday, like last Friday, they're like, uh what mission trip are we pulling on for spring break? 00:09:02.320 --> 00:09:04.720 And you're like, that's two days from now. 00:09:05.039 --> 00:09:06.559 Like, you would have heard already. 00:09:07.120 --> 00:09:08.639 Hopefully you would have heard already. 00:09:08.799 --> 00:09:08.960 Yeah. 00:09:09.679 --> 00:09:14.080 We do not plan week-long mission trips 72 hours in advance, unfortunately. 00:09:14.399 --> 00:09:14.960 I don't know why not. 00:09:15.120 --> 00:09:15.440 I would be super. 00:09:15.919 --> 00:09:17.519 I mean, can't we spring it on them? 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:21.679 We do have a 12-hour drive of planning things on the way up there. 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:23.840 Is there a plan for a next spring break? 00:09:24.320 --> 00:09:24.639 There is. 00:09:24.799 --> 00:09:25.120 Yeah. 00:09:25.279 --> 00:09:28.799 Uh nothing like we're gonna leave at this time on this date or anything. 00:09:28.960 --> 00:09:32.000 Uh there is an idea that we're direction but a west. 00:09:32.399 --> 00:09:32.480 West. 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:32.879 Yes. 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:34.240 Go west, young man. 00:09:34.559 --> 00:09:34.720 Yeah. 00:09:34.960 --> 00:09:38.720 Uh we try to visit our local sites during spring break. 00:09:39.120 --> 00:09:43.919 Um, although spring break is an entire week, it's not quite long enough to go overseas. 00:09:44.399 --> 00:09:46.879 Um that's just a big endeavor to try to do. 00:09:47.279 --> 00:09:47.840 It sure is now. 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:50.960 Uh it's harder for families to to do it and things like that. 00:09:51.200 --> 00:09:55.360 Um so all of our local ones we say local, they're in the US. 00:09:55.600 --> 00:09:56.080 In the US. 00:09:56.159 --> 00:09:57.120 Yeah, we'll call it that. 00:09:57.360 --> 00:10:00.159 Um, we'll just say like in America, right? 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:03.919 Like South America, Latin America, Central, all that. 00:10:04.080 --> 00:10:06.720 Um like Monterey, uh, that's an option. 00:10:07.120 --> 00:10:09.919 Uh the Arizona ones we support two in Arizona. 00:10:10.159 --> 00:10:15.360 Um and then we go to Houston every summer already, and we support Carlos down there. 00:10:15.519 --> 00:10:16.320 Yeah, he's awesome. 00:10:16.480 --> 00:10:17.919 We love going to visit them. 00:10:18.240 --> 00:10:20.240 So we try to hit those every few years. 00:10:20.320 --> 00:10:22.559 And I think actually just recently we had. 00:10:22.879 --> 00:10:25.919 Did Roland go to oh, I asked a bone about a bowen. 00:10:26.159 --> 00:10:26.399 Nope. 00:10:26.639 --> 00:10:27.279 I broke the rule. 00:10:27.519 --> 00:10:30.879 Actually, were there some people in Monterey just a few weeks ago? 00:10:31.120 --> 00:10:31.360 Is that right? 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:34.879 Roland and Mario went to Monterey uh just a couple of weeks ago. 00:10:35.200 --> 00:10:35.279 Okay. 00:10:35.679 --> 00:10:36.080 Gotcha. 00:10:36.320 --> 00:10:38.960 Are we not allowed to ask questions about family? 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:39.519 I can't ask. 00:10:39.840 --> 00:10:40.639 Well, just for this one. 00:10:42.240 --> 00:10:46.480 The joke is a bowen usually doesn't know where a bowen is. 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:47.200 Okay. 00:10:48.080 --> 00:10:54.559 Well, if you have any poll with your father-in-law, will you have him start supporting a missionary in the Bahamas? 00:10:54.879 --> 00:10:59.039 And I'm glad I'll be, yeah. 00:11:00.159 --> 00:11:01.360 Are we gonna go church plant? 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:03.120 Like I'm on board for that. 00:11:03.679 --> 00:11:04.559 We on the beach. 00:11:05.279 --> 00:11:05.600 Yes. 00:11:05.919 --> 00:11:07.519 Church plant in the Bahamas. 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:10.159 I'm actually reading a really interesting book. 00:11:10.320 --> 00:11:11.840 It's like a social science book. 00:11:11.919 --> 00:11:16.879 And I think in another life, I would really love to be a social scientist if that's a thing. 00:11:17.039 --> 00:11:20.240 If not in another life after that, I would love to make that up. 00:11:21.679 --> 00:11:25.120 So you have to do some prep work in your next lap for the following yeah. 00:11:25.360 --> 00:11:26.320 Yeah, like a phoenix. 00:11:27.279 --> 00:11:28.240 Community for matches. 00:11:31.519 --> 00:11:31.840 Okay. 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:38.720 Uh but it's it's titled Toxic Charity, which sounds really hardcore, but it's really not. 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:43.360 Um but it talks about like benevolence work and mission work and and things like that. 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:52.080 And it's actually really interesting about um sometimes we just go on these mission trips and we come back feeling good, but how much help did we really do? 00:11:52.480 --> 00:11:55.440 Did we just paint the orphanage six times in six summers? 00:11:55.679 --> 00:11:55.840 Yeah. 00:11:56.000 --> 00:11:56.879 Did it really need it? 00:11:57.120 --> 00:11:57.679 And yes. 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:12.080 It kind of challenges us more less towards um dependency that they just depend on us because we give them free food or give them free clothing or give them free money, and more towards um every relationship ever is built on trust. 00:12:12.159 --> 00:12:13.919 Yeah, and so more towards a partnership. 00:12:14.080 --> 00:12:14.240 Yeah. 00:12:14.399 --> 00:12:19.840 And I'm five chapters of the ten chapters in, halfway through, and it's been really about halfway through. 00:12:20.000 --> 00:12:20.240 That's great. 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:24.080 Roughly 30% of the Harry Lance. 00:12:25.840 --> 00:12:30.559 Yeah, he's traveling this week, this week break, yeah, and sending us pictures, kind of jealous of that. 00:12:31.039 --> 00:12:32.000 Speaking of beaches. 00:12:32.320 --> 00:12:32.720 Oh, Joe. 00:12:33.200 --> 00:12:34.399 He'll have to tell us about it when he gets back. 00:12:34.639 --> 00:12:37.440 Yeah, I was gonna wait for the story when he gets back. 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:42.559 I had an interesting conversation with a good friend of mine who did mission work for several years. 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:44.879 And one of the things he pointed out, he's like, you know what? 00:12:44.960 --> 00:12:52.000 Like, when you're a missionary, you're far from home, like it's so nice to have people come and visit. 00:12:52.159 --> 00:13:03.519 He said, But for some reason, people call and they say, Hey, we want to come visit, and they're like, Will you make us an itinerary of like what we can do like all week long? 00:13:03.679 --> 00:13:14.720 And he's like, he's like, honestly, as a missionary, what me and my family would really love is for you to show up and say, Hey, we just want to hang out with you. 00:13:14.960 --> 00:13:16.559 Like, we can go sightseeing. 00:13:16.720 --> 00:13:27.200 He's like, When I'm in this place, like he was over in Scotland, he's like, I was a missionary, I didn't have the time or the resources to go, you know, sightseeing. 00:13:28.320 --> 00:13:36.799 And he's like, then people come over and like quadruple my workload with all these things, and there's no relationship building. 00:13:36.879 --> 00:13:38.720 It's like we've got to go paint this and do that. 00:13:38.799 --> 00:13:42.960 And he goes, he goes, the best is when people just come over, they have meals together. 00:13:43.120 --> 00:13:46.240 He's like, we all get to go visit someplace. 00:13:46.399 --> 00:13:49.519 He's like, for my family, that was the most beneficial. 00:13:49.600 --> 00:13:51.279 He's like, but nobody ever wanted to do that. 00:13:51.440 --> 00:13:58.399 They they assumed that like they were gonna show up and he was gonna like task, be a taskmaster for four or five days. 00:13:58.480 --> 00:14:00.399 And I was like, Oh, that's an interesting approach. 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:08.399 Like the the missionaries need that support too, not just us painting uh the same house for the six days. 00:14:08.799 --> 00:14:10.799 How long ago did you have that conversation? 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:13.600 Oh, it was probably oh six or eight years ago. 00:14:13.919 --> 00:14:16.559 Have you had the opportunity to do something kind of like that? 00:14:17.039 --> 00:14:18.639 Not not really, not a whole lot. 00:14:18.799 --> 00:14:22.080 Well, a a little bit when I went to the Philippines. 00:14:22.399 --> 00:14:27.759 There was there was a lot of uh relational, but I I mean they still had a lot of work for us to do too. 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:29.360 So but yeah. 00:14:29.840 --> 00:14:33.360 Um I I I just again, he was so far away from home. 00:14:33.679 --> 00:14:45.279 Um it was just n he was like, it's just nice to like sit down and and talk about you know what what's going on in in Texas and not feel like you're just you know rushing a bunch of people around. 00:14:45.759 --> 00:14:46.639 A a bunch of to-dos. 00:14:47.039 --> 00:14:47.200 Yes. 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:52.080 I feel like we we really had that opportunity uh in at Salt River, for sure. 00:14:52.639 --> 00:14:57.120 Um there was plenty to do, but there it was it was all focused around meals. 00:14:57.519 --> 00:15:03.360 I think we had potlucks, we had a ladies' group meet together, I think a men's group met together. 00:15:03.600 --> 00:15:05.679 I kind of sat half of it out because I was hurt. 00:15:06.080 --> 00:15:09.200 And and then the uh relationship class. 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:12.960 Um but that's what we all take away, isn't it? 00:15:13.120 --> 00:15:20.159 Are those those conversations that we had that last uh those last few classes and uh and that changes everything. 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:31.200 But that makes you more attentive to the work that they do there, like reading the newsletters, um excited to see them again on the next trip because it's been two years. 00:15:31.840 --> 00:15:40.000 Um but you're right, it's it's the relational um chip, it's the relationship that changes the ministry. 00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:41.440 Yeah, not the to-dos. 00:15:42.159 --> 00:15:53.120 Me, Shanna, and Waylon uh got pretty lucky because NCYM, a conference that we go to was in Tucson, just two hours south of the Salt River Church Christ that we were serving at. 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:54.000 So we got to go. 00:15:54.080 --> 00:15:58.000 Yeah, and there was a lot of people there that like recognized us but forgot the name. 00:15:58.080 --> 00:15:59.840 And same on our end too. 00:16:00.000 --> 00:16:08.000 There's a lot of people we recognized, but but there was a lot that it was just like we were there yesterday, and then we showed up the next day, but actually it was eight months in between. 00:16:08.159 --> 00:16:08.240 Yeah. 00:16:08.399 --> 00:16:10.240 Uh so it was really cool to get back. 00:16:10.399 --> 00:16:20.879 Um and then their church was just growing, and so there's a lot of I won't say a lot, but there was a handful of people that came up like, Hey, you seem to be known, but I haven't ever seen you around here before. 00:16:21.840 --> 00:16:22.559 Tell me who you are. 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:25.679 I'm from Texas, and they're like, Wow, that is quite the trend. 00:16:25.840 --> 00:16:26.320 Yeah, why don't you? 00:16:26.399 --> 00:16:27.200 I don't do this every week. 00:16:27.679 --> 00:16:28.879 That's a long commute. 00:16:29.120 --> 00:16:34.240 Uh but it is cool to go back and to not recognize people, it's not the exact same people. 00:16:34.320 --> 00:16:44.240 Yeah, and I remember having that same sentiment with gosh, like during COVID, I remember going to like 13 funerals in in that same year. 00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:50.720 Not all related to the pandemic, some just age and but some some towards it. 00:16:50.960 --> 00:16:56.559 And it was so honoring to go to people that I loved and then look around being like, I know none of these other people here. 00:16:57.200 --> 00:16:58.960 It's kind of cool to see the wide. 00:16:59.440 --> 00:17:00.240 To see your world. 00:17:00.320 --> 00:17:00.480 Yes. 00:17:01.120 --> 00:17:03.519 I I knew them in maybe this one avenue. 00:17:03.840 --> 00:17:08.319 Um, but really their life was so much bigger than the way I just knew him or or her. 00:17:08.480 --> 00:17:08.640 Yeah. 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:12.799 And so that that's kind of one of my life goals is I want there to be strangers at my funeral. 00:17:12.960 --> 00:17:13.200 Right. 00:17:13.440 --> 00:17:14.640 Hopefully not strangers to me. 00:17:14.720 --> 00:17:15.359 That's creepy. 00:17:15.440 --> 00:17:19.599 Uh, but strangers to everyone else that you look around and go, I don't know who these other people are. 00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:21.839 We'll send out we'll send out invitations. 00:17:22.079 --> 00:17:24.079 Yeah, if you can put that in the email, that'd be great. 00:17:24.319 --> 00:17:24.400 Okay. 00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:25.920 Send out a push notification. 00:17:26.319 --> 00:17:35.680 There's kind of a story in the Bible about that, you know, they're having a big feast and so they go just wrangle up, you know, strangers uh on the street. 00:17:35.759 --> 00:17:43.359 And so that's that's well, I won't be alive for this, but like we're gonna offer them something in return. 00:17:43.519 --> 00:17:43.759 Yeah. 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:44.720 We'll have a meal. 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:46.000 Yeah, we'll have a meal. 00:17:48.079 --> 00:17:50.160 Well, I heard um a missionary came back. 00:17:50.319 --> 00:17:52.720 This is when we had MRN come into town. 00:17:53.039 --> 00:17:57.680 And I forget it was uh kind of a South African country, but I I can't recall which one it is. 00:17:57.839 --> 00:18:01.680 Um but he was sharing that he was there for I think it was like 16 years. 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:17.119 And when he comes back to the States, um the preacher got up and introduced them and welcomed them back, and he made a really good point that that stuck with that family, is that his kids, I don't think they were born there, but they were for most of their lives raised in this country. 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:21.920 And so the preacher challenged the congregation not to come up and say, Hey, welcome home. 00:18:23.039 --> 00:18:24.079 They just left home. 00:18:24.400 --> 00:18:24.559 Yeah. 00:18:24.799 --> 00:18:28.079 That that was their home in I forget what country it was. 00:18:28.319 --> 00:18:33.039 Um but I thought that's really cool too, talking about your Scotland, yeah. 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:34.400 Missionary friend from Scotland. 00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:36.400 Like he he probably feels like that's his home. 00:18:36.559 --> 00:18:36.720 Yeah. 00:18:37.039 --> 00:18:44.079 And then we'll come and visit his home and be like, hey, let me let me help out around the house and say, Really, I would like to just show you the neighborhood. 00:18:44.319 --> 00:18:44.640 Yeah, yeah. 00:18:45.440 --> 00:19:01.039 Just kind of and just have a little bit of a Sabbath and because because for missionaries, I mean, they're just that they have they have sacrificed their life and and and for their kids and their spouse, like it is a big deal. 00:19:01.200 --> 00:19:07.839 And so to just show up and say, Man, we just want to say we we love what you have done and and we don't want to add more work. 00:19:08.079 --> 00:19:11.200 I it made me think about when we went to Arizona. 00:19:11.440 --> 00:19:15.839 Now think about this, we had um we had a couple projects. 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:22.000 It was uh on a reservation, and so they had these little um octagon, I can't remember what they're called. 00:19:22.480 --> 00:19:23.279 Goggle ball. 00:19:23.599 --> 00:19:24.720 No, not the goggles. 00:19:26.720 --> 00:19:30.160 There were houses, but there's uh an Indian word for it. 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:31.680 But I can't remember Hogan? 00:19:31.839 --> 00:19:32.640 Yeah, Hogan. 00:19:32.720 --> 00:19:33.680 That's it. 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:36.000 That's a pull from the field. 00:19:36.160 --> 00:19:37.279 Yeah, way to go. 00:19:38.240 --> 00:19:38.640 Wow. 00:19:38.799 --> 00:19:41.359 I knew we had you here for a reason, and it's awesome. 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:42.319 Okay, you can leave that. 00:19:46.960 --> 00:19:48.319 The designated hitter. 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:49.920 She stepped up to the plate. 00:19:50.160 --> 00:19:51.039 She did nailed it. 00:19:55.119 --> 00:19:55.279 Yeah. 00:19:57.119 --> 00:20:02.720 Um, so anyway, I don't even know why I wanted to describe that word because I like to make long stories out of short ones. 00:20:02.880 --> 00:20:12.960 Uh, but we we had two groups, one of them that built bunk beds, and we had to like uh I mean we had to build like a hundred, or we got to build like a hundred of them, like twelve in each one or something. 00:20:13.119 --> 00:20:16.960 And so it was like a lot of a lot of work, a lot of lumber. 00:20:17.039 --> 00:20:22.960 Like we had to take two trips uh with with huge trailers just to get off because it was so heavy. 00:20:23.039 --> 00:20:35.759 Anyway, and then we had another crew that their job was they they go out and the government cut down trees uh into manageable size logs um because they're trying to um thin out the trees. 00:20:36.720 --> 00:20:48.240 Um and so they allowed this church to come in that that we were a part of and they would gather up the woods, they were literally hauling like logs all day long. 00:20:48.400 --> 00:20:51.440 We were in U-holes and fill those things up. 00:20:51.519 --> 00:20:54.240 It was so exhausting. 00:20:54.319 --> 00:20:55.200 Yeah, Penskey. 00:20:55.599 --> 00:20:57.119 It was so exhausting. 00:20:57.519 --> 00:20:59.519 And we did that for like three or four days. 00:20:59.599 --> 00:21:09.440 We expected that, and like then we like got to go home and uh and then so the first year one of the missionaries was there, and the second year when we went back, he wasn't there. 00:21:09.519 --> 00:21:12.000 Like he had he had gone on vacation or something. 00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:14.960 I'm like, I was like, I wonder where that guy is. 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:16.720 And I'm like, you know what? 00:21:16.880 --> 00:21:19.519 Like he probably has to haul wood all year round. 00:21:19.599 --> 00:21:25.519 He probably doesn't want to be like, hey, y'all want to come join us for three straight days of hauling wood. 00:21:25.599 --> 00:21:27.279 Yeah, he's like, we out. 00:21:27.680 --> 00:21:30.480 He's like, I'm not I think that's a good point in there. 00:21:30.640 --> 00:21:35.119 Like any group that comes in, our goal is to make life a little easier for them. 00:21:35.359 --> 00:21:47.359 Yes, and if you're going to a place that all they do all year is haul word and build bunk beds, yeah, it's nice to bring a group of you know, twenty or thirty people over to get you ahead on that. 00:21:47.680 --> 00:21:48.799 Now you don't have to worry about it. 00:21:48.960 --> 00:21:50.079 You can take a day or two off. 00:21:50.240 --> 00:21:50.480 Yeah. 00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:58.559 Um but if you're I'm going back to that Scotland guy again, if you're having to make work for these people that want to come and visit you, um, that's not helpful. 00:21:58.880 --> 00:21:59.119 Yeah. 00:21:59.359 --> 00:22:15.440 It's it's in a weird dynamic because they're like if I I mean I feel like uh if if if I'm a missionary and a group of people come in and they're working hard and they're supporting my mission effort, I feel like I need to be there Hollandwood too. 00:22:15.519 --> 00:22:17.039 Like that would be weird. 00:22:17.519 --> 00:22:29.920