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Unmasking Truths: Understanding Dating Economics, Narcissistic Personalities, and Emotional Expression in Men
Welcome to another unfiltered and raw conversation from The Lioness Den, where we're all about the real, no sugar-coating allowed. Have you ever wondered how much a man should shell out on a date? Well, we're here to tell you, it's not about the hefty price tag, but the priceless connection and vibe that ensues. From high-end dining to a humble picnic, it's all about how you enjoy each other's company - that's what makes or breaks a date. Ladies, we didn't leave you out - we also touch on when it should be your turn to foot the bill.
Did we mention we're diving headfirst into the complex world of narcissistic men? We sure did. We're shining a spotlight on this type of personality and the strain it can place on a relationship. Setting boundaries is crucial, but what happens when they are crossed? We'll guide you on how to handle it. Remember, the key is recognizing right from wrong for the sake of your relationship's health. Also, we're stirring up the conversation around greed and the role it plays in partnerships. The importance of balance, mutual respect, and genuine connection can't be stressed enough.
Finally, who's ready for a refreshingly honest discussion about emotional expression in men? It's high time we put to rest the notion that men showing their emotions compromises their masculinity. We're standing firm on the belief that men should be able to share their feelings openly, without judgment. After all, actions speak louder than words, right? It's this emotional availability that fosters a strong bond in a relationship. So, buckle up and get ready for another enlightening conversation in The Lioness Den, where truth prevails.
Hey you guys, welcome to the lioness den. I'm.
Speaker 2:Jareena baby, it's your girl, miss blue, aka Vegas mommy.
Speaker 3:Hey Vixen, be back again.
Speaker 1:Hey you guys. So today we are gonna be discussing how much should a man spend on a date. You know what we gonna. Let, yeah, miss blue, pick up, yeah, and start with this topic. So let me really repeat it again how much should a man spend on a date? How much should a man spend on a date? And, and how much do you think a man should spend on a date?
Speaker 2:day. It depends on the man, first of all, because I'm keeping one hundred with you. There's different genres of men, as there's different genres of music. So you got some men that can't afford it, that barely can make it, and some that this is what I got in here Is what I have. So, with that being said, if you fit in any one of them categories, you should be suitable to pay in that order. You ain't got to go outside your means, because a lot of dates could be simple as hell is a picnic in a goddamn park. You, a man, if a man, know how to cook, baby, cook that food. Get you a picnic basket. Boo boo like yogi bear, oh uh, finest of her favorite wine the big bottle, not the little bottle too. Get the big bottle, get the big bottle. So Enjoy, enjoy, isn't? It's not about where you are and what you did. It's about the fact that you went all out of your way to think about the little things that matter and spending time with that person.
Speaker 1:So basically you're saying there's no dollar amount.
Speaker 2:It shouldn't be no dollar amount at the end of the day. Now I'm gonna tell you right now, if your ass, bill Gates Bitch, I'm gonna roof Chris and some on your ass. We're going on a yacht. It's a motion, because you can afford it. You can afford it. Don't act like you can because you can.
Speaker 1:So you're gonna buy the man that you're, you are encountering?
Speaker 2:Thank, you Now. Now, baby, I'm gonna tell you this I'm a little bitch. We can go to McDonald's and get that dollar menu.
Speaker 1:I'm not going on McDonald's, but go ahead.
Speaker 2:I Think about it, though If you working with a little bit, we gonna work with a whole lot messing with me, cuz I'm a hustler baby. So we gonna go to that dollar menu, we gonna get each one of us a meal off that dollar menu for hair price, and we still got enough money for that bottle in that sack and we gonna go sit in the park and have a good night.
Speaker 1:What you think.
Speaker 3:Well, let's you know that, however, I mean, I feel like they make dollars, but you know, we can go to somewhere this cool. Like you know, so annoying, we're gonna somewhere this cool. We can go to somewhere that's like low-key, like Applebee's Applebee's is cool, I can go to Applebee's.
Speaker 2:Applebee's is like going to Wendy's nowadays. You can't go to Applebee's, no more chilies is like going to Wendy's no Macaroni grill.
Speaker 4:It's not like going to McDonald's.
Speaker 3:I'm not going to make done. That's all the way out right. Anywhere but there, anywhere but there Like. But so for me like.
Speaker 2:Las Vegas and they got the golden steer.
Speaker 3:Let me ride this cow cuz, baby, cuz, I'm not going to know, fucking. What you just said the golden steers and one of the However, I mean it's whatever, like I just say it could be like a little sushi bar. Sushi's not too much, it's not too much.
Speaker 2:It's so even happy hour. Okay, if he took it out there.
Speaker 3:Oh, happy hour is cool. I'm gonna do that. That type of shit is cool. You know, I don't even meant to give me a whole lot, cuz I had a mother who gave me a whole lot, was a whole cycle. Right, you just give me a little bit, I'm gonna be cool, baby, I'm gonna be cool. Like you know, we don't, we don't.
Speaker 4:Everything after me, everything five hours. By the way we got, everything we got.
Speaker 1:Introduce yourself. He just popped up in here, y'all oh it's big me, not the little one.
Speaker 1:This big me's not the little, okay. So let me just tell y'all this for me, okay, for me, it's the vibe. You get what I'm saying. We could spend $20, $50, like a thousand dollars, five hundred. For me it's the vibe. What did we get out of that $50? Why we was sitting there that we really enjoy each other, like if we enjoyed each other. I don't the amount of money, I don't even care. You give what I'm saying because it's the vibe. For me, you know, it's the energy so if that's matched.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so for me, if like, as long as that's good, then yeah, and then after that we'll figure it out, because for me I don't care about the monetary. Yeah, yeah, like it's more of, and I'm gonna always find cute cheap stuff anyway, cuz that's what I do. I'm a foodie, so we gonna do that regardless. So, and then that brings me to okay. So about how much, that means the man is paying For the first day, I assume. So when should it be that a?
Speaker 3:Woman pay for a day.
Speaker 2:Who should pay for the first day. If I invite, you should not pay for it if you invite me.
Speaker 3:So after he does all that and everything is good, is he getting the cake? Oh, is it cake clapping, like what we doing? Is it cake clapping?
Speaker 2:Is it?
Speaker 1:because he went, because wait, because he brought us some issue, we be having sex.
Speaker 3:It's like about the atmosphere, about the mood, about the box once again oh, it's a.
Speaker 4:I gotta make sure that's the true you.
Speaker 1:You might be trying to play me, just for those reasons I Mean we'll do that.
Speaker 4:If you can agree with me, but I Girl might want to do the same thing. I just wanna fucking Somebody in my life, you know, I just wanna fuck him and I'm on the next day with her. You said cuz the girl.
Speaker 3:A girl do already know that they gone fuck somebody in the first whatever minute, a couple minutes, whatever. But for me, if you want to be long-term but a hold that shit out and be able to be like, okay, he did a cute little thing, I'm gonna some keep him next time. For who?
Speaker 4:No.
Speaker 2:Before you get the cake. Oh yeah, how many dates do it take for he get the cake?
Speaker 4:I feel like within the first 20 minutes, 15 minutes of you on, there's a body you gonna know if you wanted to.
Speaker 3:But you still got to hold that cab out, wait, wait but hold on, is it?
Speaker 1:is it easier to find out early or late that the sex is terrible? It's not horrible to put wait and see, however, you guys, you guys see what type of time he on, though, because I hope some people be like uh-huh, let me go see first, because if it's garbage I need to go into the second date.
Speaker 3:You might be right, respectable, right, give me a little minute, like that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:You have men and women who just be like what am I waiting for? Like she just said, we're grown. Yeah, I need to know, because this is a lot of women.
Speaker 4:I.
Speaker 1:Mean this man got everything I want and I need, but he don't got good sex and be willing to throw everything away.
Speaker 3:So now they like I need to know what if you go and you smash on old boy and he just used to bitch to smash. You know him anyway, so you're not different from any other bitch, so you just wouldn't get him to kick right away.
Speaker 1:But this is the thing, this the thing. Even if you give him the cake, if your energy and your vibrate, it ain't even the other bitches, ain't I mean the other women ain't even gonna matter. You feel me, if you got. Rather you having sex today, tomorrow, whatever, if it's a vibe, and he feeling you it's a vibe, and if y'all going that part, it must be something y'all feeling. And the big determination is if the sex is gonna be good and that's gonna be the tiebreaker.
Speaker 3:If that's good, then y'all locked in yeah, okay, you're not lying, that's right, that's absolutely saying. That's what I hear. A lot of women say that, like I don't say that, but that's what well.
Speaker 1:Like mom or girl should be like no, the sex is a tiebreaker, you know.
Speaker 3:It really is, I mean. But if it's somebody who you really like, you feel you could work with them, you can work with them and be so teachin.
Speaker 1:So now I say that you want to be a teacher.
Speaker 3:Huh, we could both get into motion like we could both go on the same motion, like you know, but you might have to. You know tremolo a little bit if you feel like he got it in so y'all willing to teach? I'm not willing to teach. I mean at some point, but it's something that you gotta teach.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you have to know what a person likes exactly.
Speaker 3:So it's a certain, but I'm just teaching you like I'm not teaching you how to ride or I'm not teaching up I'm not teaching. Nobody know that. But at the end of the day, like you know, you do got to be on the same page, like y'all are doing the same page, and this summer this is somebody you know you could like rock when you gotta know, like okay, he likes this, he like that, or she like this, she like that. Advice I mean to say you know, you have.
Speaker 3:You have a lot of person anyway Go. And then you have to learn somebody, anyway go. If you're dealing with somebody new, everybody Don't like the same shit that your old person like. You got a fucking couple of some new shit. Yeah, I mean some of things. No, some things are just fine now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, everything is different. Okay, okay me on the mic.
Speaker 3:Like, so are you, are you? Are you busting it open on the first day?
Speaker 4:It depends on who it is.
Speaker 3:Yes, I'm saying.
Speaker 4:I might want to, I might not want to.
Speaker 3:I know, but what would make you not want to?
Speaker 4:So a lot of things that make me want to Okay what would make you want to?
Speaker 2:Just personality, I mean, I just if you vibe with that person, right, yeah, okay but I Can.
Speaker 4:I can really know if I'm gonna smash somebody within the first 10 minutes.
Speaker 3:So you know, so you already know, even if it's not a person that you would normally that you just already know, like in the first 10 minutes. Oh, he gonna get this.
Speaker 1:After spending some time together, you know if you want to not saying it's gonna happen, but yeah. Yeah, he's right. I mean, you do know, if you want to sleep with somebody within the?
Speaker 2:yeah, Before we know that first 10 minutes of a conversation with the person. You know they're foolish Before we go on that first day.
Speaker 4:Anyway, all right we probably already talked to anything already, so on the phone I'm pretty sure communicated.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so basically the moral of the story is it doesn't matter if a man has. You already know what to do Pretty much. You already know what to do pretty much.
Speaker 1:So when should a woman pay?
Speaker 2:That now that's what I was saying earlier like, like, if I feel like this, if I call you and invite you to a date, I should pay. If you call me and invite me to the date, you should pay. That's how I feel. But how you feel, yeah, cuz what other way is?
Speaker 3:it Okay. So for me you said when should a woman pay? I feel like I'm gonna pay if I feel like you paid. Last time we had a good ass vibe and everything was good, I'm a pay like I don't have a problem with pain. If everything was good, copa, stay, I'm gonna pay. I don't have no problem with paying for your time. I don't think I have a problem with pain for you. Sit with me, cuz Shit. I mean, I like you. If I like you, I'm gonna pay right now.
Speaker 1:If I don't like you, I'm gonna offer to pay and and I want to pretend on your Turn in our next one this even though I offered. You should see yeah, even I offer. You should be still like no, you give what I'm saying. You should still be like no, you give what I'm saying. I'm just saying.
Speaker 3:That was a set up, just letting you see that I don't care about pamphlet that was a set up for a set up right, but you, we're gonna meet up as homegirl, homeboy.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna know what friends are.
Speaker 3:No, no to something in no, no, this is your position now. Yeah, this is your position now. We are friends, baby.
Speaker 1:I just the lioness den 2023 on on IG, cuz we're live right now as well.
Speaker 4:But yeah so when okay, so when should a?
Speaker 1:woman pay. How do you feel?
Speaker 4:Where's the one place?
Speaker 1:I just said, I just like, I said, like, I feel like.
Speaker 3:Big me said never I'm the bitch that I always pay.
Speaker 4:I mean, if you're taking on a date, then I'm gonna expect that he should be paying, right. I'm gonna stop taking both names on dates. You ain't got no money, no we asked him for your money.
Speaker 3:I always pay.
Speaker 4:Oh, you've set you down.
Speaker 3:Oh, okay, I'm gonna date with you next.
Speaker 4:Alright, I take that tip back off the table. Oh, you take that tip too.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 4:I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1:He ain't kidding y'all. Have y'all ever had somebody do that? I know this is off the subject, but y'all, hey, I had somebody do that. You tip too much. I'm going to steal the tip. What the heck.
Speaker 2:My kids' great-grandma did that after they ran the Red Rock Buffet, she said these people already got a job. They get a paycheck for this. Why don't you put this on the table?
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So let me ask you a question how do y'all feel about narcissists men? I know this is kind of off topic, but I know this is kind of off topic but you mean narcissistic bastards?
Speaker 3:Yeah, and now we're Wait, wait, let's take a little pause because, this time we're going that way.
Speaker 1:But we have a new guest that just walked in and on this subject right here I want you to introduce yourself. Beautiful what's?
Speaker 3:that LA have a drink. Hey, I'm representing Josh.
Speaker 2:I'm representing Josh, but we love him. We love narcissistic men.
Speaker 1:Unfortunately, we love him to a point. We love him off the top, but the things behind is something different. I love my nigga butt. All men are at some point at that stage. You got to be the woman enough to tone that shit down, just like a man got to be men enough to tone that shit down at the same time.
Speaker 3:LA Mom, we need you to change the system.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm a dream. I'm a dream. What's your ID? What do you go as it's me, Dre.
Speaker 2:It's me Dre. It's me Dre, next to Dre the baby hey.
Speaker 1:But I don't know. I think you got to fill a relationship and see where it's at. What y'all doing, what we doing, that's the top. Me and Dre and I were talking about it last time I was here and boundaries are so important. When you start something, what you started off as it's not what you're going to want it's being the end. You might start it off as some other shit, but when feelings start getting involved, all that should change.
Speaker 2:It turns into something else. All that should change.
Speaker 1:No, we not doing that, no more, we not doing it, no more. Oh God, and that's what I feel like. That too. That's why boundaries are so important, because, like you said, just because we got together six months ago, now we, three years deep in, I don't want to be still doing the stuff that we was doing six months ago, but then, at the same time, I should have set those boundaries, I should have put that in place. We should have set A, b, c and D, because can you really get mad? No, you can get mad, but you can't really get mad.
Speaker 1:There you go, and the question is are we going to grow together or are we going to grow apart? Mmm, you feel me. How are we going to fix this? We're going to park the fuck apart.
Speaker 3:You're such a disaster, you're a joke out here. And then they claim not to be, the narcissist because they are the victim and the victimizer oh man, you can't play both roles Like you get one, you get one. But they do and we also talked about that too.
Speaker 1:How do they know if they don't know, like, how do they know if they was never in a situation to know? How do they know? They know, everybody know right from wrong.
Speaker 4:Don't get it twisted.
Speaker 2:Everybody know right from wrong you know, everybody know right from wrong.
Speaker 1:I get that, but all these bitches are doing whatever. At the end, right now they're doing whatever, so you're saying they're allowing these men to act. To do whatever, absolutely, absolutely, we do it too, Our narcissistic bastard.
Speaker 3:no, he's a narcissistic bastard.
Speaker 4:For sure.
Speaker 1:He's going to do all kinds of shit too.
Speaker 3:Period point blank.
Speaker 1:You do. So how do you do that if he is a narcissist? Because he's the black lady of my life?
Speaker 3:Walk up that nigga with them heels on the walk down his back. Walk up his ass. You're going to have to.
Speaker 1:Once again. That's why, boundary, you got to stand your ground. Boundaries, don't even let it get to that point.
Speaker 3:But like you said though remember you said you were like you don't set boundaries. A lot of people don't know to set boundaries. Me personally, I had a narcissistic bastard and I did not set boundaries and that was my fault. Like you said, that's your fault, because you should set boundaries. However, he definitely knew I was the head of that shit. I let that shit, but see, that's not to cut you off.
Speaker 1:That's what we that's us as black women. I think us as black women we got to step back as a page. Like, like, you can't be a head of your household. Like, yes, you can.
Speaker 4:This is how.
Speaker 1:I feel Like you cannot. A man has to leave.
Speaker 2:And that's fine, but it's who are you? Who are you?
Speaker 4:You have to talk about this, like you, have to step back.
Speaker 1:You have to step back. Just I agree with you.
Speaker 3:I agree with you. I agree with you. Like don't be with him.
Speaker 1:You feel like you got to leave your household. You didn't leave it alone. Okay, I'm about to say this to you, okay, You're right.
Speaker 3:You're right about that.
Speaker 1:Because niggas need to leave Period I'm going to tell you this.
Speaker 3:So then they have a mother. I'm going to let you know, based off my story For sure.
Speaker 1:So if somebody is like paying the bills, paying everything, doing this, doing that, but you still can't do what you want to do, but that's what you did.
Speaker 3:They want to, but that's the end of that I'm comfortable with him paying my bills, paying all my shit, paying my rent, but at the end of the day, but you have a separate bank account.
Speaker 1:We had a joint bank account. See, that's, you got to have a joint account.
Speaker 3:And I had my own too. I'm not a fool though, but at the end of the day, there's more fucking putting cameras in my house, tractors in my car. At the end of the day, I had to really make a decision for myself, for sure, for myself.
Speaker 1:When they start putting cameras in, because I put a camera in them all fucking too Like.
Speaker 3:So yes you, yes you.
Speaker 1:See, I don't even want to be when nobody has to do all that. I don't want them to have to do all that.
Speaker 3:Like, I'm not even like oh you talking to this bitch?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that's going your way, no, but we both on our way. That's the way you're going. She ain't killing you. She ain't killing you. That's the way you're going, mama killing you. We both on our way. Okay, where you going? We both gonna be there. You getting your cousin's groceries bitch, I'm taking them in too, bitch.
Speaker 2:Oh a little meat joint in the ass.
Speaker 1:OK, I got the milk. Bitch, I got the eggs. Bitch, like we finna, take this shit together bitch. Ok, don't get that shit twisted.
Speaker 4:See, I'm just at the edge where I'm just I don't want to do all that. When I was in my younger age I was going to do that.
Speaker 1:I want peace right now.
Speaker 2:I don't even have a question to ask. I don't want to do it, I don't, I don't, I don't want to do it, but I will.
Speaker 1:I'm probably not going to do that.
Speaker 2:Right, I'm not going to do that Right.
Speaker 3:But that's how you feel.
Speaker 1:Right, you know what I'm saying, that's how you feel.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I never feel that way. I'm not taking no bitch, no with them.
Speaker 4:No, I'm not going to take the heat issue.
Speaker 3:No, but I'm just, I'm saying as far as, as far as for me, though how I was dealing with a narcissistic person literally he had a, I had a mini fridge in my room with a heat, literally put you know the popcorn tins from the Christmas type shit, had a camera drilled into that with a and at the bottom had a. That's when it's time to go, like we all have to know we all have to know when it's time it's OK to do.
Speaker 1:Everybody's not here for a long time. It's a season it is.
Speaker 2:It's a season for a long time. I'm glad you said that the reason a season or a lifetime.
Speaker 1:I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 2:Every group are doing shit like that, they might kill you? Yeah, he's over here, right here. He ain't killed, no, but what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:what I'm saying is they might. I mean, when people start putting cameras, it starts getting to the point where it's getting deeper than where it should go. Right, you know what I'm saying. Just like DREAM has said, don't nobody want to do that shit.
Speaker 3:I don't want to put no camera on my nigga Like.
Speaker 2:I want to be so secure in myself that I know my nigga ain't finna go.
Speaker 1:I don't give a fuck if you're around 10,000 fine ass bitches you know what I'm saying. I don't even want to feel like you, even looking at them hoes. You know I'm looking at the bitches too, but we looking at them hoes, we looking at them, right, you know what I'm saying? We weren't fucking couple of them, good.
Speaker 4:Securing both of us. I know you mind.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying it's so important, like these days, these niggas don't show that Right and like if you have to show that, like if I know you mind, I know you mind. Right and that's what I'm searching for. I just wanted to be like. I don't want to have to do all that.
Speaker 4:I don't want to.
Speaker 1:I don't want to know that. You love me, I love you and it's us. You get what I'm saying. It's just us, we rocking this thing out. It ain't no in between. I don't want to. The moment I feel like it's not us, it's over.
Speaker 3:I'm not going to go through it.
Speaker 1:I'm not doing it. I did it when I was younger. I just want peace. I don't want to have to be embarrassed. I don't want to have to go in the streets Like the same way. You don't want to go in the streets and hear me just being trifling. Don't do me like that, you get what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:That's my thing.
Speaker 1:Just give me the same respect. Let's respect each other. You get what I'm saying. Let's find our happiness what it is that makes us happy as a couple together, and let's do that together. You get what I'm saying. But all that extra, I'm not doing it Like I'm not once it gets to the point where I feel like I got to go start cheating or you feel like you got to start doing it, but that's what a narcissistic behavior comes up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, two girls don't make a right.
Speaker 1:So when somebody cheat on you, that don't mean you go cheat on them Like if that's what's, if you got to go cheat on them and you still not happy, what's the point? But I'm just saying like period, like it might not always be the man that's cheating. I'm saying whoever it is cheating, like whenever whoever in the situation feels like they got to cheat.
Speaker 2:OK, since you said that, what do you consider a?
Speaker 1:narcissistic thing. Hold on. I'm just saying whoever has to feel like they about to cheat, just go your separate ways. You get what I'm saying. Just go your separate ways and just leave it alone. At this age, of course, when we was younger, we was about everything you know what I'm saying, everything you said. There is some boss ass motherfuckers in relationships, long ass relationships. That's new. One shit that's dedicated to one another, that's not, and that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4:Let's get money.
Speaker 1:Let's not even worry about that. Who's still cheating nowadays? Everybody. And that's what I'm saying, that's so stupid, Like a lot of these girls would do whatever you want together, Anyway. So why are y'all cheating?
Speaker 2:Why are you so cheated? That brings me back to what I just said.
Speaker 4:So, what do you consider a narcissist? Don't be greedy.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Don't be greedy.
Speaker 2:Don't Like I said, what do you consider a narcissist?
Speaker 1:Because the world is built on greed. You can't say don't be greedy. The world is built on greed. If you ain't got it, you ain't got it, and that's just what we end the life we live in, but even because the world got to be greedy don't mean you have to be.
Speaker 4:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:I'm not what the world is I'm me, so why do I have to do with the world?
Speaker 4:No, no, that's not what you're doing, you absolutely don't.
Speaker 1:But in the eyes of the world right now, it's greed Like you, not on top, if you ain't got it all at this point, for some people you know what I'm saying. But what is being on top?
Speaker 4:Like what do you consider that For everybody it's different?
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying. What do you consider on top? For everybody it's different, because now, after me, like going through some stuff in these past years, I look at stuff so different and what I used to think was important ain't even no longer important to me. You give what I'm saying to them being on top, to me being on top right now. I'm on top because I got my health Excuse me my kids. It's good. My family is good. We love each other. Like it's certain stuff now that I look at as being on top and it's stuff that money can't remotely buy for me. You give what I'm saying. So I mean what is?
Speaker 4:being on top look at.
Speaker 3:Greed don't have to be money.
Speaker 1:Greed could be just anything. You come in all different forms. Greed just don't have to be money. Greed could be affection from everybody. Somebody could love this person more than they love you, and that's greed.
Speaker 4:Or love they sales, like you know.
Speaker 1:or love they sales for that matter, you know what I'm saying. So what is greed? What do you want is the bottom line, and you know what you just said. Like that love that's so important because a lot of women love these men more than they love themselves, even though they say, no, I don't, no, I don't. Yeah, you do, because the stuff he's doing to you, the narcissist, is making you put yourself second, and you don't even know you put yourself second Because in real life, would you really be doing this? In real life, would you really? You're putting yourself second Anytime you have to push, you know, I mean we, we, think you're energy.
Speaker 1:we think anything yeah so you know, at the end of the day, like we put ourselves already enough second when it come to our kids and stuff like that. So when it come to a man, he shouldn't make you put yourself second because he's supposed to be there to help.
Speaker 4:You're giving them to each other.
Speaker 1:Oh, he's the postman.
Speaker 3:You're grown Come on man how you gonna know.
Speaker 1:But this is what I'm saying. What if he don't know?
Speaker 4:How don't you know though.
Speaker 1:Because they don't get that, so you want me to teach you Our black men don't get, not necessarily teach them, but you gotta grow together, like in a relationship. You have to grow together Like it depends on the age.
Speaker 2:Before. I heard y'all scaring me.
Speaker 1:I heard y'all talking about a nigga crying or something.
Speaker 4:I want my nigga to cry in front of me.
Speaker 1:I want my nigga to come out and tell me, like, what's hurting you babe?
Speaker 4:What's in my skinny jeans?
Speaker 1:Like whatever it is Like I want you to be emotional with me, Like if you can't be emotional with me, you can't be emotional with me with another guy. Not a real guy. Not a real guy. We don't want no sex. Not a real guy. You know what I'm saying. You're a crazy lady, but not a real guy.
Speaker 3:You want your nigga to be there with you and be able to do that with you, but not taking your masculinity, though, but not taking your masculine, like he needs to be masculine. The whole point of that, and a lot of times, no, no, no, but listen a lot of times, he definitely needs to be masculine At what point can they not be?
Speaker 1:But a lot of times Listen a lot of Right, but a lot of times at the end of the Y'all made me forget.
Speaker 3:I was like that's all I'm saying.
Speaker 4:I was gonna say but at the end of the day it can be.
Speaker 3:whenever he can be masculine. He can cry for me and still be masculine. I'm not gonna judge you on that Right. However, if you're making me fucking pay all the rent, pay the bills, take care of the kids, watch the dishes get all the shit.
Speaker 1:But that's different. That's what I was gonna say. That's what I was gonna say. What I'm saying is you can't.
Speaker 4:Don't cry for me with that. Let's separate some shit, but don't cry for me with that.
Speaker 3:Let's separate some shit.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about providing.
Speaker 3:That's a total different aspect of emotional. No, it's not about providing, I'm just saying it's about masculinity and no, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:It's all gathered in one, but to me? You know what I don't care about you trying to For me. Show me what actions. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. That's the biggest thing Show me what actions. Only time you really see a man cry and express stuff is when you don't call his ass doing something I have, and now he wanna sit here and cry and pour his head out because he done, did something and is.
Speaker 3:You know we done got into it.
Speaker 1:Now you wanna cry? No what the hell.
Speaker 3:The niggas out there too, the niggas out there too. They just didn't see here. We didn't do that too, you know what.
Speaker 2:I'm saying Like they so narcissistic that they don't give a fuck.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like what the hell?
Speaker 2:I'm not fed again, because now you want.
Speaker 1:But when they do cry and show it to you and you may act like you ain't no, and you may act, cause I'm mad.
Speaker 2:Don't act like you ain't. No, and you may act, cause I'm mad. Keep it going, keep it going.
Speaker 1:What you saying. I'm not saying that when they do cry, it's like okay, I'm crying because this is what happened. Like you know, at the end of the day, I'm Right, you said it's not but just not necessarily let's just say it's not dealing with a woman, is it okay to express your feelings? Man can't even express their feelings at this point.
Speaker 4:Little boys, yes, they can. They doing it all the time.
Speaker 2:Too much.
Speaker 1:No, no, no no.
Speaker 2:They don't.
Speaker 4:No, they don't Because my son and his father has that problem.
Speaker 2:They can't express their stuff as mean, cause they don't know how. Absolutely, because you don't let them.
Speaker 1:I done been around women that have that have like when they kids cry, you can't cry, you can't, you can't do none of that.
Speaker 2:They still press all that.
Speaker 1:And there's so many dudes, even the nigga that I'm with now he talking about. He done been providing for motherfuckers since his mama, since he 13, 14. That's not okay, Right. Like you don't understand that and you want to fight me and tell me that that's okay.
Speaker 3:nigga something fucked up with me, right, you fucked up me. Listen, listen, listen, everybody. Ptsg, ptsg.
Speaker 1:PTSG has a pass. Everybody has a. Went through something. I always tell people that and it's about you know. Of course we all have the pass, but a lot of times people use that as an excuse. You know, at the end of the day if you want to do better, you're gonna do better.
Speaker 3:If you're a man, you're gonna end up.
Speaker 1:You're right. You want to change this generational curse we have going on. So in order to do that, you have to change it.
Speaker 1:You get what I'm saying so just because, at the end of the day, this is what your mama did, this is how your mama treated you, you can keep being a grown ass man or woman and using this as an excuse, or you can get your ass up and do something about it and be a better version of you then, so you don't have to go through this. So to me that should just be an excuse, like come on everyone.
Speaker 1:I need y'all to man up, but if you don't have a mentor to show you what's right, how you gonna be what's right.
Speaker 4:You better go on YouTube. You better figure it out. You better go on YouTube. You can't, you can't. You have to.
Speaker 3:You have to, even though that's the one where we have to Wait. But even if you want to I just want to say I had to figure out a lot of shit, like my mama didn't tell me everything.
Speaker 4:Right.
Speaker 1:I definitely didn't, and I grew up with what I thought my mama's about shit.
Speaker 4:Right, because my mama's not like that yeah, I mean it, but then if you I'm gonna talk shit to my kids.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna let them know all this and that, but at the end of the day, you just have to be like. You have to grow up. You have to know what's right and wrong. Like you can't just be like oh, daughter this and son this and that I got six kids. I'm gonna tell them all, like my son, if you don't put your hands in nobody, you got sisters. You ain't got to put your hands in nobody.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but this is what I say Bitch, hit you in your mouth. Bitch, slap that bitch. No, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. Don't put your hands in somebody.
Speaker 3:Right and right and right and right and right and right. I got all this shit. I'm not Wait a minute.
Speaker 1:I'm not, I'm not. Let me tell you. I'm gonna tell you Don't be with nobody. Let me tell you why Because I didn't put my hands on my fuckers. Yeah, pre-prepine.
Speaker 2:Oh god, you know what, you know what, you know what, you know what, you know what, you know what, and you should vote nothing and it didn't tell me. I mean I tell I'm gonna teach you. And not impact that down, tommy, because I know I can't just still love.
Speaker 1:I teach my son that don't even be with no woman. That's gonna make you put your hands on her.
Speaker 4:But at this point, if she does, that, and what I'm saying is, if it gets to that point, leave her ass alone, like, get away, because guess what? You're gonna be in jail.
Speaker 1:You're right, You're gonna be in jail, slapping her and she's gonna be acting like who else You're gonna be in jail At you first bitch. This is Vegas. You got it Somebody going to jail. Whoever put their hands on who first guess who's going to jail For what they? Saying to the police come.
Speaker 4:And they don't matter.
Speaker 1:It doesn't matter it doesn't matter.
Speaker 4:I mean, they get a GD production, but guess what? We both going to jail, but however. Yeah, we both going to jail, but however my son's.
Speaker 3:You have a sister, you got a mama, you got whoever Like, don't put. I teach my son do not put your hands on no fucking body.
Speaker 1:That the bitch slap your ass with some fucking the end of a pistol I say hemorrhage.
Speaker 3:It's up, Like you know what you gotta fucking do. But at the end of the day, my kids. I would not allow I talk so bad to my sons. If you put your hands on a bitch, it's over. Like it's over. Like I'm a trip on you. The police is tripping on you.
Speaker 2:We are tripping on you.
Speaker 3:That's the setup for the get up, but however, however however, my son's got some of these sisters, my kids got 15 siblings. So we coming, we coming. You ain't going to put your hands on nobody. We are coming, just let us know we're coming. But is that OK? It's not OK, but then it's not.
Speaker 4:OK, for no one. I'm probably doing it right.
Speaker 3:You got 15 siblings. You got at least 7.5. I'm not even saying what about your son. We are coming.
Speaker 1:Mama, we are coming. If a bitch put they, if my kids is little, my boys is little bitch, if you hit my kid, I want my little boy to slap your ass. No, no, I'm not going to keep it 100. I'm going to keep it 100. I actually had an incident.
Speaker 2:See my kid Brett and I son is eight, so if I'm supposed to tell him that, he's eight.
Speaker 1:Wait, hold on, no, listen, I brought up my little kids which I would have nobody tell somebody right here bitch, wait, listen, I actually had an incident with that. My son was dating a girl.
Speaker 4:And I'm going to wrap him up Say this real quick and then we're going to wrap it up.
Speaker 1:My son was dating a girl and she came over there banging on my door, my house, looking for my son, and after he had put her out, they had got into it Because she had stole on him. And I walked in there in the process of him like hey, been a ruffer, I'm like no.
Speaker 3:So he put her out the house.
Speaker 1:She came back ding ding ring the doorbell and I opened the door. I'm like he was going to the door. I said, uh-uh, you go back over here. You give what I'm saying. I got this and I had to really check her, Like look, little girl, this is not what we're doing. And I rather did that because women always cry yeah.
Speaker 3:And it's going to make them feel bad.
Speaker 4:They provoke these young men and in the face of what you're saying these little wankers, they provoke these men now.
Speaker 2:They provoke these men, could you?
Speaker 4:say you got little kids. She said you got little kids, right, you got little kids.
Speaker 1:You got little girls too.
Speaker 3:You got little kids, you got little kids, you got little kids, you got little kids, right? No, they grow, they grow.
Speaker 1:But they grow, but they little you are 17. We're combing the baby.
Speaker 4:You got little kids. My youngest is 17. I'm saying in a mazzi, this is my. Ok, good job. Look, we got a rap, my youngest is 17.
Speaker 1:Hey, wait yo, ok yo. We on the podcast. Look we getting off the topic. Y'all. We getting off the topic, y'all. We going to wrap up this session, y'all. You guys make sure y'all tune in. Remember IG, go on there. The link is in the bio LionessDen2003. You guys, I am Drina Baby. That's D-R-E-E-N-A-B-A-B-E. That's on IG and Facebook and everything.
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