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ALL STAR BREAK EDITION: Our Top 5 Worship Songs/Hymnals
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Hey everyone! Life has its little bumps in the road and something extraordinary is always happening in God's world. Dale is celebrating his wedding anniversary and Nic is getting ready to say goodbye to one home and move into another. The last thing we want to do is leave our audience hanging, so here is a fond memory to tide you over until we return. Consider this our All-Star break! The following episode is our most popular, so we thought it was worth re-visiting for anyone who might have missed it. See you soon!
Meanwhile, we change lanes to untangle the web of worship music versus contemporary Christian tunes. What's the real difference, and does it matter if Montel Williams or Montel Jordan makes a surprise cameo in our memories? By dissecting songs like "Shake Heaven," we reflect on how music that stirs the spirit may not always suit a traditional Sunday service. Personal anecdotes and humorous mix-ups guide our exploration, all while we appreciate how platforms like Buzzsprout help us keep our podcast episodes neatly organized.
As we journey through our favorite worship and gospel music, we savor the profound emotional connections forged by songs from "Oceans" to "Spirit in the Sky." A blend of nostalgia and humor paints our musical memories, celebrating artists like Elvis and Johnny Cash. The unexpected inclusion of "Good, Good Father" in a church service becomes a symbol of worship's spontaneous essence. Join us in this episode, where music's storytelling power brings shared cultural moments to life, and we share tips on remembering life's important dates with creative associations.
Post-Election Political Analysis and Speculation
Speaker 1Okay .
Speaker 2Okay , it's changed .
Speaker 1Next Wednesday is the 13th at 8 . Safe Okay , wait , okay .
Speaker 3There's so much technical stuff . You guys didn't catch it , but last week I accidentally scheduled one of the episodes to go out . Yeah , last week , yeah .
Speaker 1I went home and did the one . You scheduled one .
Speaker 3That went out on Wednesday night yeah .
Speaker 3Then I scheduled the second episode that we recorded . Yes , like the following day . Well , I thought I scheduled it for tonight , but somehow managed to schedule it for the wrong day . Now , I didn't schedule the podcast , like the on Buzzsprout . I didn't schedule that , I only scheduled the Facebook post that went out . But because you had the link , you could access it . So Sid texted me . She's like hey , did you mean to do that ? So we're immediately scrambling to take this thing down . So I was like we're a week ahead .
Speaker 1We can't afford that . No , I'm like I'm pretty sure he didn't mean to do that . Yeah , definitely did not .
Speaker 3Definitely did not . So we started , we were just talking like election and life and all of the crazy things that happened last night . But I will tell you I I was thoroughly surprised by the entire election last night . I really was .
Speaker 4I really was To see the extreme in the voting . Yeah , they likened it to Reagan . Yes , very much so Very much so it hadn't been that red across the board .
Speaker 3Yeah , because I mean honestly , it stopped at Pennsylvania all the way over to what Wisconsin Kamala won Wisconsin , honestly , it stopped at Pennsylvania all the way over to what Wisconsin Kamala won Wisconsin no didn't . No . What did she win ? She won something Minnesota , minnesota .
Speaker 4I thought he was going to take that .
Speaker 3I did too , minnesota , and then creep over to , like California and like Oregon , a couple of those western like yeah , she just goes up the coast , but otherwise Oregon , a couple of those Western like , but otherwise like it was pretty well red , red .
Speaker 4Yeah , the big topic of discussion was that blue wall falling between .
Speaker 1Wisconsin , michigan , yep , which is that ? The Rust Belt ? Yes , Okay .
Speaker 3Well , and the crazy part was so swing states are always the conversation , right . So what did we have ? Ohio used to be a swing state , not a swing state anymore .
Speaker 1Right Like it's . I was trying to explain that to Chase last night because he doesn't get into it it used to say .
Speaker 3the saying used to be where Ohio goes , so shall the country , but that's not the case anymore because it's so conservative . But anyhow so , pennsylvania , north Carolina .
Speaker 4Virginia . I believe Virginia is the only southern state . Yes , she did get Virginia .
Speaker 3But it wasn't a swing state . It wasn't considered a swing state Michigan , Wisconsin .
Speaker 4Is Iowa a swing state ?
Speaker 3Hold on let me just look Because I want to get it right , but what I wanted to say , the point that I was going to make , is that it was wild to see that she didn't take any of the swing states . So here's the battleground states , or what they call them , on the Associated Press Georgia , north Carolina , florida , maine . She got .
Speaker 5Maine , she got Maine .
Speaker 3Well , okay , but Donald Trump got some of the Maine votes because of the way that they break their votes . He technically won the popular vote 52% .
Speaker 4Yes .
Speaker 3Okay way that they break their votes . He technically won the popular vote 52 . Yes , okay , uh , pennsylvania , arizona , michigan , is that it , they say , nebraska , arizona I think it's still open .
Speaker 3Yeah , I'm not surprised , but it doesn't matter at this point because it's 51-46 , with 85% of the votes in . Come on , let it go , come on . But anyhow , I was just really I was thoroughly surprised with how many of the swing states that went red and the amount of money that they spent . Now , this is just one thing that I'd like to point out for those of us who aren't political but just like logically minded . The money that they spent in that campaign , imagine the good we could have done in the world with that money .
Speaker 1And I think they spent the most in Ohio .
Speaker 3Yeah Well , they said that the Senate race between Bernie Moreno and Sherrod Brown was the most expensive in history for a non-presidential race .
Speaker 2Yeah , wow .
Speaker 3Can you imagine the money that they spent ? And , let's be honest , we all saw the commercials , we all got the text messages and the emails . Yeah , but there was more money spent on those races than had really ever been spent before .
Speaker 4Well , think about what her campaign was 104 days . Yes , that's it .
Speaker 3Yeah , but the war chest that she had from inheriting it from the biden camp well , and that's what they said today .
Speaker 1They're like are they allowed to do ?
Speaker 4that I don't , I guess , so she did , and she didn't go to prison , so I never thought of that she got biden's um his what they called the war chest , his .
Speaker 1All of his funds from his campaign were transferred those yeah they were kind of saying that , um , I think they were asking democrats what do you think we would regret , you know ? And they're like , basically Biden not stepping down sooner ?
Speaker 3So there's a couple of things and I will tell you just from having talked to lots of Democrats and again , I've told you I run fairly conservative , but I love to have a good conversation with with Democrats , people who are not , who don't think like me . One of the first conversations that I had was they didn't vote for Kamala . They wouldn't tell me who they did vote for , so whether they went independent or whatever , but they didn't vote for Kamala . Maybe they wrote in Bernie Sanders , I don't know , but they said because they didn't get to pick their nominee , there was no way they were going to vote for it .
Speaker 3They they voted in the primary for Biden . For him to step down and then not to get a say again was not fair , they felt like it was it , I agree .
Speaker 3It was a bait and switch , because they didn't think that she could have gotten it on her own merit , and so they felt that's how they felt about it . Now , if I'm talking to a Democrat and they're saying that to me , right , I can imagine how a lot of people may have felt that way , and , especially now that they've lost in the grandiose way that they have , how insulting that would feel to your intelligence . I don't feel like I'm a dumb person , and if you told me , ok , trump is running , and then all of a sudden , trump drops out and it's JD or I mean anybody- mike pence steps in like whatever I would be like .
Speaker 3Uh , this isn't what I we had talked about .
Speaker 4I've made an agreement and now I'm being forced to take something else , so I can imagine how and how upsetting that would feel yeah , but for me , though my takeaway is , with the democratic party especially is they had to know there were doubts about biden's abilities , well , to continue on another term . There had to know there were doubts about Biden's abilities to continue on another term . There had to be doubt .
Speaker 3Have I not told you about my wife's lady ? Have I told you guys about her ? So my wife follows a lady on .
Speaker 1You told us about her following her .
Speaker 3Okay , so she she knew she , like she , has what they call a sub stack . I don't know what a sub stack is , I have no idea , but my wife gets it and my wife reads them to me . Okay , is it just like a weekly ? She is . She is some lady who is an armchair expert . She listens to all these radio podcasts and she follows politics really closely and she just hears stuff , she learns things . And she knew three weeks prior to Biden stepping down that Biden would be stepping down .
Speaker 3When there was an interview with Barack Obama and Barack did not directly support a second Biden term , like he didn't come out and say Biden's got it together , biden's going to be fine . He didn't say that the wheel started to turn and within a week of that she had pretty well deduced that Biden was planning to step down . They were already meeting at Camp David with the family . The family was there . They were conversing about what this would look like if he decided not to run . Yada , yada , yada . His speech is written . He will resign or he will .
Speaker 3I don't remember the word that she used . It was not resign , he would Resign , no , I don't remember the word that she used . But he would do it on the following Sunday , like I'm talking to a T , and when it happened I screenshot it and sent it to my wife and I said this lady is crazy , she knows everything . I'm convinced that the doorman at the White House is her source , because she knows everything that's happening inside of the White House before it ever happens . The cocaine she was talking about that before anybody else was talking about it . They knew , they certainly knew . Obama knew , kamala knew , they all knew that he was never going to run that it was never actually when the media turned on him .
Speaker 4Right here we go .
Speaker 3It's going to happen right and he didn't have a chance at that point and I feel bad for the guy because we set him .
Speaker 6They set him up to fail .
Speaker 4Correct , if , if you let , and I think they set kamala up to fail . I agree with that . If I was her , I'd be , I think , a little bit upset yeah , maybe I'd be a republican now I don't know , and that was what I was gonna say . My takeaway is okay . Now , if you're the democratic party , especially , who do you have up and coming like they're going to have to reorganize ?
Speaker 3that whole party .
Speaker 4That whole thing's going to be a shake-up , and I think also there could be a case where that party is now going to be split in many cases , because well , Well , you see people defecting constantly . Everything that she was running on , it's clear that that's not what the country wanted .
Speaker 2Right .
Speaker 4So now the Democrats I don't think can run on that platform in four years and win it , so they're going to have to come back the other way .
Speaker 3Here's what's crazy is it was a pendulum swing , in my opinion . So there was this ultra liberal move , there was this ultra liberal move , there was this ultra conservative move , right , and we were opposite ends like no abortions , everybody should be able to get abortions , Term limits , no term limits . It's never really been like that Correct . We have never been so so far divided . And what was interesting is she tried to swing to the middle and say well , I feel like we could come together . And while I don't disagree with her , I will say that I completely agreed with that idea that we should be able to come to the table . It was too little , too late , yeah .
Speaker 3Do you know what I mean ? Yeah , and then I realized after watching those votes like watching that the map turns over and all of that , like they gain Senate seats there . So they're going to have the House , they're going to have , likely have the House , it's not counted yet . They're going to have the Senate , they're going to have the executive branch and , really honestly , the judicial branch is stacked . At this point they have all three branches of government . They have like literally all of the governing power . I said this to Beth , I've said this to Roger tonight . They better get some crap done . Yeah , they have no excuses .
Speaker 4I don't want to hear you know .
Speaker 3Trump told us he would end that war in Ukraine . He better walk into that office before he gets back .
Speaker 3That's what I'm saying Like he better find a way to end that war in Ukraine , because if he doesn't do that , what's going to happen is the Republicans aren't going to trust him anymore and then there's going to be a complete like break off of like . Ok , he said he could do it , but he really can't . And also , I want to just say this for everybody sitting in the room and everybody who's listening everybody sitting in the room and everybody who's listening the president has nothing to do with the economy .
Speaker 1No .
Speaker 3They are sitting in a good place at a good time or a bad place at a bad time . They don't create jobs Now . Their policies help , but they don't pass laws . They sign laws . They sign the law into action . They enforce the law .
Speaker 4I think sometimes they influence how small businesses behave .
Speaker 3I don't disagree with that .
Speaker 1Yeah , I'm not saying that they don't to some degree , but they don't create the jobs . Well , and I think I truly think this is just me saying this , but I do believe there were a lot of people voting this year that thought what you just said , that they do control .
Speaker 3I know that . That's what I'm saying .
Speaker 1And for that I do strongly believe that someone , everyone needs to take a citizen's test when they register to vote , and maybe every 10 years or so , just to realize what the democracy is .
Speaker 3Because the job of the president is actually so small . Yeah , intentionally , because they don't want one person .
Speaker 3They don't want a king or queen again . You know what I mean . So it's actually purposely small . But we look at that as the figurehead of what I mean . So it's actually purposely small . But we look at that as the figurehead of the country , like it's the power point . Yeah , so whatever congress does and they sign or whatever , like job creations come and don't get me wrong , the dow is up like 1400 points today . Yeah so , like they do , like , but it's because of the policies people assume that they're going to create right , yeah and let's be honest , Eggs aren't coming back down .
Speaker 3Milk's not coming back down Because retailers have figured out we'll pay for it and they're not going to bring it . Gas didn't go back to 99 cents a gallon y'all .
Speaker 4I think it will go down .
Speaker 3It's going to go down , but it's not going to Because we're going to open pipelines . That makes sense . To go down to 99 cents a gallon , no Like inflation is what it is and it exists at this point , so it just is going to be—all right , that had nothing to do with our topic tonight . I feel like we've just talked for 12 minutes about politics . If you're still with us , and I hope you are .
Exploring Worship vs. Christian Music
Speaker 3Tonight's topic top five favorite worship or hymnals hymns and I'm specifying particularly because I don't want to talk about Christian music .
Speaker 1Right .
Speaker 3There's a difference . Yeah , we've talked about this before . So , like Shake Heaven , anybody ever heard Shake Heaven ? Dale loves Shake . Heaven oh yeah , I wish I had it . I would just play it for you .
Speaker 5Have you guys heard Shake Heaven ?
Speaker 3I haven't heard it . I would just play it for you . Have you guys heard Shake Heaven ? I haven't heard it . Okay , You've got to find it . Well , I can't play it though .
Speaker 1Can we play it on your phone ? Yeah , hold on . I mean it won't be for me , but it'll be something , Hold on .
Speaker 3Yeah , I'll hold it up to the mic . Yeah , covered this in an early episode , like three seasons ago or two seasons ago or whatever . How many seasons we on this is two this is two .
Speaker 1This is that's it late . Two , do you know ? Do you know ? We have almost 100 episodes posted . It's nuts , it's nuts . We do our um seasons like differently compared to others . Yeah , and I'll tell you this at some point .
Speaker 3Sid , this is your fault , not mine . By the way , we have to go through and we have to put the season and the episode in there , because we don't always so some of them have a season in an episode I noticed that last , like , I think , when I was texting you yeah but I think whenever we started using buzzsprout . No , we didn't do it before .
Speaker 1We didn't have the option to give it a season and uh I did already go through that though oh but what I was about to say with the AI GPT yes , so then last week I went through like I think there's seven of them maybe gotcha seven , so so are we caught up yeah , I mean on buzzsprout . We are . I don't know if it references back to the rest it does , yeah , it pushes back .
Speaker 2All right here . It is sounds like a video game . Yeah , right , okay .
Speaker 3Okay , we need to get to the chorus . Are you ready ?
Speaker 2now Get ready , now Get ready , let's go shouting out . Let's go shouting out . Gonna shake heaven , gonna shake heaven .
Speaker 3Joining together Dale Walker's loving this right now .
Speaker 6I have not heard that . I haven't either .
Speaker 3Okay , here's my point . That is a great Christian song . It is not a worship song . It doesn't fit in a worship set list . That's not something you do on a Sunday morning , although .
Speaker 1I think we have , we have .
Speaker 3Well , yeah , florence used to play it all the time , but that was one of those growth moments for us when we realized that there was . It was like a mind blowing moment when we realized there was a huge difference . I believe hymns were always intended to be a spiritual uplifting . That is a much different experience . Does that make sense ? Like you would go to a concert and hear that song right , montel williams is his name . Like he'd be dancing around a stage singing shake heaven .
Speaker 4And I just see Montel from the talk show . Yeah , yeah , that's Montel Jordan . Oh , okay , there's a different , it's a different .
Speaker 1Montel , it's a different .
Speaker 3Montel . I don't think it's the same guy , uh , but my point is there is a difference , and so I want to make sure that , and I'll be honest , this is a real peeves
Discussion on Worship Songs and Hymns
Speaker 3. Oh , that old Mercy Me song , what is it ?
Speaker 6I can only imagine .
Speaker 3I can only imagine it's not a worship song . No , Because a worship song is singing to , singing about . Singing praise to this is like my it's like telling a story . This is like my oh , my gosh , I can't wait to get to heaven and see Jesus . Like it's just an inerrant difference . Well , you're going to be upset a lot of people right now , I know , and I don't mean to . Umbrella of grace , umbrella of grace . I don't mean to , but there is a huge difference .
Speaker 6But you played it not long ago .
Speaker 3I didn't , I can assure you that I didn't play it . We had it not long ago . I would tell you right now that that song would not be on a playlist anywhere if I had it my way . And people get mad because my mom loved it and it's a great Christian song when I first started coming here it was on every week , I know .
Speaker 3Every week . Listen , because the talent on it , because , like and it was the old 4-3 square screen , like , trust me , I made most of those videos for her because I didn't know any better .
Speaker 3And again , 90s worship was different than current worship Like it's a different experience , and so I want to be clear about , when I'm talking about worship , what that means to me , like it's a . To me , worship isn't just about . It's an experience , it's not just a song . So when I think of worship songs , I think of songs that create experiences . Does that make sense ? Like it's something that I'm I'm giving something back to God in that moment when I'm singing Like I am , like Jyra to me . Is that powerful ? You are , jyra . I'm proclaiming who ?
Speaker 1he is . That was one of mine .
Speaker 3You can still use it , because it's not one of mine who wants to start . It's not going to be me . It's not going to be me .
Speaker 4Because you know we're going on a history lesson .
Speaker 3He's going to have five songs , but he's got the history of all five of them .
Speaker 4I did dig up a little history , Okay .
Speaker 3I have to go turn on the air conditioning . Are you guys freaking ?
Speaker 4hot , it's a little warm .
Speaker 3These headphones are stuck to my ears . I'm so hot .
Speaker 6It's not that cool outside .
Speaker 5It's sticky out , there it's dark in here Turn the light on Duh .
Speaker 1Let there be light .
Speaker 5And there it all right . Well , somebody started , well I I kind of roger , I kind of across the room I .
Speaker 5I kind of like the the old course , I'm old yeah so I didn't have to agree . Oh sorry , nope , don't worry , roger , you got me on your side , go ahead uh , the older hymns and you know they've they've taken a lot of the older hymns and they've uh modernized yeah updated the music and , uh , you know , they all , they all tell a story . Yep and uh , I mean , that's just last week . I was going home and I was thinking about different songs and I liked , and I can only think of two now .
Speaker 3That's that young age getting to him .
Speaker 5I had like five or six of them .
Speaker 3One of the things that .
Speaker 5But I figured you could probably name my favorite five .
Speaker 3I probably could if I thought about it long enough . But I could probably get your top ten for sure . But it wouldn't maybe be in order , it'd be hit and miss . In the Garden's definitely on that list .
Speaker 1That was the one I was just trying to think of . In the Garden is definitely on that list .
Speaker 3Oh geez .
Speaker 1Old Rugged Cross .
Speaker 3Old .
Speaker 1Rugged Cross has to be on that list for him .
Speaker 3I always enjoy hearing that song Okay , and here's the reason that I think you enjoy those songs .
Speaker 6Okay , and here's the reason that I think you enjoy those songs . It's like a rock song .
Speaker 3Oh my gosh Spirit in the Sky .
Speaker 1He sang that for first Sunday that was Florence's .
Speaker 3Again , another non-worship song that has made its way into the hearts of many 90s .
Speaker 6Christians . I commend that for Sunday here after being clapped in . And then Roger sang that song and I thought I think I'm going to like this church Okay , so that song . I thought I think I'm gonna like this shirt okay , so uh that song .
Speaker 1I'll tell you what man we , actually we .
Speaker 3I had the band that came for florence's funeral played that song , because I was like it was ben uh smith and his wife . I said to them do you guys know spirit in the sky ? And they both laughed at me . They're like no , why would we know that song ? I'm like well , you have to learn it before the funeral because you have to play it . And they're like all right , we will it was just like two chords yeah , but it was just one of those things like it .
Speaker 3To me , it was that send off for her , because that's what she would . She would have wanted something fun and upbeat , um , so , anyhow , uh , what else ?
Speaker 6give me another one uh , at least give us the two that you remember I .
Speaker 3I just gave them to you .
Speaker 5Yeah , he just gave them . I can't think my mind's blank .
Speaker 3There was another one that we used Precious Lord , yes , yes , I like the oldest version of that .
Speaker 5Well , that's the one we did , yes .
Speaker 3Yeah , precious Lord , precious Lord . I always like backup vocals on that . You usually did them precious lord , precious lord . I always like backup vocals on that . Okay , I know , uh , oh peace in the valley .
Speaker 5I love peace . There will be peace . Yeah , yeah , we always had fun with that . Yeah , I always liked when you did so um .
Speaker 3the reason , though , that I think that hymns were so important and that they they were written because they were words out of Scripture . It was like they were taking passages of Scripture and putting them to music , rather than modern day worship , which some of them are Like . The blessing song is Scripture . There are some that have parts and pieces of Scripture , even if they change the word slightly , but the hymns were straight out of the Bible , with melodies put to them for the most part .
Speaker 5Pretty much . I mean , I like them all .
Speaker 3I don't , I don't .
Speaker 3I like most of them Do you guys remember , a couple of Sundays ago we played a song that literally everybody just stood there and stared at the screen . Blaine was running tech that day and he had picked that song and I leaned down and I said delete this song and never play it again . I did because it was just such a weird vibe . It was like you couldn't keep up with it , like you didn't know the words because it wasn't a super popular song and at the same time it had this weird downbeat to it that you just couldn't figure it out . It was really weird and we did , we deleted it that minute . It never came back .
Speaker 5That's a good thing .
Speaker 3Yes , it was bad , it was real bad . Also , I played a song one time . It was a Natalie Grant song , but it was a very like . Actually I didn't play it , I had put it on there because I told Alyssa , this is one I like . I would love to get the church acquainted with this song , but that's when you play during the five-minute countdown or something so they can just hear it . But it's not necessarily a like . It's not in the worship set but it's an upbeat song . It's a great opener . But she does these vocal runs where she's like that high-pitched , squealy thing like Mariah Carey does , and everybody in the church is like what is happening right now , so that one never went back on the set either . So there's some that I love that just have never made the cut and then some that I hate that always still make the cut . I also do not play Crowder . I don't like Crowder music . I like Crowder and , again , on a Christian music standpoint , love Crowder . I think how he Loves is a powerful song .
Speaker 1You're taking all of my time .
Speaker 3I'm sorry . I'm sorry , but I think the song is great , but for me it's hard to be a worship song because it has this—it's not congregationally written . It is hard for people to sing it and I'm cognizant of that whenever I select worship music . I'm sorry , I'm done talking . Sid of rice select worship music . I'm sorry , I'm done talking . Sit .
Speaker 1It's your turn because I've already given most of yours yeah , so there's probably two or three that you already said , however , how he loves us . I do really like that one , I don't know , like as soon as we wait , though , top five , you have to go like , give us an order , oh geez um I , I have not written mine down , I don't even know mine see , I knew , I just put mine
Speaker 4in my spotify .
Speaker 3Yeah , a little sample um you want to play them for us , each one of them .
Speaker 1I'll give you a little sample honestly , I really I think nothing else .
Speaker 2By cody karns nothing , yeah , and I nothing that one .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah , thank you for that you're welcome .
Speaker 3You didn't have it to play so I had to give it to him .
Speaker 1I want . I believe that one kind of came out around COVID , so that was kind of , and I had a friend at the time who was trying to do what do you ? Just like not instrumentals , but Like piano music . Yeah , yeah , like he did it , and you know , there was no karaoke in fact no singing or anything he had kind of um . He played it here like that one time I asked yeah , and we had that worship here .
Speaker 1Um , that would probably be my number one still , and then , yes , I will . I like that . Who's that one by ? Is it vertical ?
Speaker 3um , oh , I know what you're talking about , but I couldn't get to the chorus in my brain to sing it . Yes , yes , and I think it is vertical worship , I think so , yeah , and if not , they've probably covered it at some point , because that's kind of how worship music works nowadays and then gyro .
Speaker 1Obviously , gyro has something about like the mountaintops , doesn't it ? Or the and I that one kind of . Really . Did we hear a knock , or am I just going ?
Speaker 3I don't know , okay , um gyra .
Speaker 1It was kind of neat because you know how like symbolic Christian or just yeah , worship music is in general , and Chase is like why is he talking about a mountaintop ? Or what's he mean by that ? I'm like I love that man you know it's like , like when you know , it's like when you're down in your lowest .
Speaker 3Yeah , you're down in the valley and it was just kind of like .
Speaker 1Anytime I hear that it just reminds me of when he started , like learning worship music and realizing how spiritual and symbolic that it is .
Speaker 3What's the one song that he really liked that I didn't have to play it for him , but there was one that he really liked that I made sure have to play it for him .
Speaker 1But there was one that he really liked . I was asking him .
Speaker 3Made it into the worship set Good .
Speaker 1God Almighty .
Speaker 3No , this is a . It's a female led song , if I'm not mistaken , it's . It feels very country .
Speaker 1Oh yes , holy holy water right .
Speaker 3Yes , that's exactly yes . Holy water , like it's very much so , sounds like it could be a country song and when I heard it I was like , yeah , it's a chase song .
Speaker 1Yeah , it was like a chase he listens to the live version of that one and like the kingdom , isn't it ?
Speaker 6yes , it is , and she .
Speaker 1I mean , they were amazing live at atwood a few years back , but um , yeah , I don't know if I have like them in order , though , okay , I just did mine and then I liked the um , the garden into the garden , yep , um , I think that one kind of more , just like it resembles every time I've heard of it , like kind of end of life , yeah , yes , my mom , yeah , saying that it was just nice to kind of spend that time together with those loved ones . Yeah , I think that's about it .
Speaker 3Okay .
Speaker 6Yeah .
Speaker 3Who's next Dawn ?
Speaker 6you're next Listen , I have a whole page .
Speaker 3Okay , all right . Well , okay , you can give us all of them , but you got to give us your top five , so you have to pick five of them . That's the name of the game tonight .
Speaker 5I know , and it's not fair .
Speaker 3It might not be , but there has to be five favorites . If you could put five of those on ?
Speaker 4a playlist , one has to go to number one with
Favorite Worship Songs and Hymns
Speaker 4a bullet .
Speaker 6Yes , number one with a bullet , if you could put just five of those on a playlist that you had to listen to forever . Which five would it be ?
Speaker 2It'd be my Christmas music . Mary , did you know ?
Speaker 4Really , I love that story .
Speaker 6Really .
Speaker 4Christmas music in general , for Okay .
Speaker 6Yep , and what Child Is this ?
Speaker 4Those are all great .
Speaker 6Hallelujah for Easter .
Speaker 3Okay , I'm judging you a little bit Just a little bit over here . Because here's the thing with Mary , did you know ?
Speaker 4Don't tell me you don't like Christmas music .
Speaker 3It's not that I okay . First of all , I'm already in trouble at work because I'm the Grinch . At work they're putting up Christmas decorations , which I get . We have to do early because it's like and everybody else is .
Speaker 3And every like the town is decorated for Christmas , they're getting ready to do the Christmas tree lighting . Like I get it , I get it , but somebody has to take all that crap down . Like it's so much labor . Like I look at that as just setting money on fire , I had eight people putting up Christmas decorations today . I'm like I am just burning payroll dollars , just burning payroll dollars .
Speaker 1Like it pains me Anyhow here's my problem with Mary .
Speaker 3Did you Know ? Can I tell you my problem ? You can . Yes , she knew . Why are we asking ?
Speaker 2the question .
Speaker 3The angel told her yes , she knew . Why are we singing about it ?
Speaker 1Yes , she stinking knew .
Speaker 6I'll give you that All right , I'll give you that as well . Everything .
Speaker 3I mean , if he would have told her that she was giving birth to the savior of the world . I'm pretty sure she knew he was going to do some pretty cool stuff .
Speaker 6Right , okay , it is well with my soul cool stuff . Right , I like it Is Well With my Soul .
Speaker 3I love that song . That is a good one . Blessed Assurance . Okay , that one could have made my list . That one could have made my list . Great Is Thy Faithfulness , great is thy faithfulness Okay , modern version . Or like classic , him A classic .
Speaker 5Okay .
Speaker 3They have a modern version . That's pretty cool too .
Speaker 6Yeah , I like Holy , holy , holy and that's an older one Holy , holy , holy , holy and that's wait , that's an old holy holy , not chris tomlin .
Speaker 5No , no , okay , I don't know who sang it , we sang it at the other church , gotcha um , and then of course , I was saved in the 90s .
Speaker 6Some 90s music .
Speaker 3My deliverer oh , that's a good one , I I forgot about that song .
Speaker 6I like those too , yeah .
Speaker 5My Redeemer . I'm just thinking of that too .
Speaker 3My Redeemer lives . Do you remember who used to sing that one ? My Redeemer , yeah .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 3Lexi used to sing that one all the time . Anytime somebody would give her a microphone she'd sing that song . But it was a good one .
Speaker 5She did a really nice job , but that was a that was a popular 90s song .
Speaker 3So then , I have some Easter music . What happened Got really off track here .
Speaker 6All right , because he lives .
Speaker 3Okay , Now which one ?
Speaker 5I like the Gaithers . Okay , or Matt Marr .
Speaker 3Okay .
Speaker 6I like the Matt Marr version too . Yes , I like the Revelation song by Keri .
Speaker 3Jobe , nope , now you got me out Phillips Craig and Dean or Bust , yes , phillips Craig and Dean or Bust FFH yeah . I don't mind the Keri Jobe version , but it's a little too slow for me . It's a little too slow for me . I love these debates because I love music so much that I know most of it .
Speaker 6I like 10,000 Reasons .
Speaker 1That's a good one . I like that one . That's a good one or so , Will I Know ? No , that one's . I think it's also called Bless the Lord .
Speaker 3Bless the Lord . Yes , Okay , that's right .
Speaker 1I just remember seeing the parentheses .
Speaker 5Yes , I could go on .
Speaker 1But what's your top ?
Speaker 3five .
Speaker 5I can't give you top five .
Speaker 3I just love them all here . I am sticking to the rules and you guys are just over-breaking them . Yeah , I had to leave all these songs off the list .
Speaker 5That's the first time you've been sticking to the rules . I know right , I got you a whole list . She does have a whole list .
Speaker 3Goodness .
Speaker 5Is that two-sided ?
Speaker 3Oh my God , yeah , all right , beth , your turn .
Speaker 6Well , my top is Mary , Did you Know ?
Speaker 3Are you serious ? How is this happening right now ?
Speaker 6Something about when you kiss your little baby . Did you know you're kissing the face of God ? That just brings tears to my eyes .
Speaker 3I will tell you I love the harmonies in that song and I love the story behind the writing of that song . Yes , but the song just in general , like if I ever got to meet um , what's his name ? Mark , mark , mark , mark , marky , mark , in the funky bunch ?
Speaker 3no , it's not , that's not it uh , mark meller , no , what's uh , he was in the gay vocal band is it lowry ? If I could ever meet him , I would ask him like did you was this a genuine question or did you know ? And you're just like , oh , this is gonna be . Like I need to understand the thought process .
Speaker 6But anyhow , my second one is I Can Only Imagine . My third one is it Is you by the Newsboys .
Speaker 3I don't think I know that one .
Speaker 6It's a good one .
Speaker 3I don't think I know that . Is it old Newsboys or new Newsboys ? Old , old , okay one , it's a good one . I don't think I know that , is it old ?
Speaker 6old news boys or new news , boys , old , okay and then , uh , I come to the garden alone , okay . And then my last one , of course , is for you , those tears I died and that's the one that you learned before .
Speaker 3I never knew . You never knew it , but you were like . You woke up singing the words .
Speaker 6Because the words are you know . I'll read what I wrote down here .
Speaker 3No , sing it for me .
Speaker 6No , I'm not singing it . I had to sing it as I was writing it down , though it's the only way I can do it . It said you said you would be there for all of my sorrows . You said you'd be there for all of my tomorrows . I came so close to sending you away , but just like you promised , you came there to stay , and I just think about how many times in my life I did send him away .
Speaker 3Yeah , sure , certainly .
Speaker 6And he was there , just still waiting , waiting for me to get it all together and come to me . Yep . Or not really get it all together just to realize it .
Speaker 3Just to realize it .
Speaker 6yeah , I needed him to get it together .
Speaker 4I thought Mary Did you Know was a lot older of a song it , I thought .
Speaker 2Mary , Did you Know was a lot older of a song ?
Speaker 4It is not . I didn't know it was from 1991 . Yeah , it's not at all . Yeah , I thought it went back further than that .
Speaker 3Nope , no , they weren't singing that in the hymnals . Yeah , maybe the updated hymnals , the digital one . It was written in 1984 . But not produced until 91 . And that was probably because he hadn't gotten Mark , hadn't gotten any type of recording contract up to that point , like he was a music writer and a comedian much before he was singing with the Gaithers .
Speaker 1So yeah , I forgot to say so . Will I by Hillsong ?
Speaker 3Oh yes , what is that ? A thousand reasons or something like that 10 . Yeah , yes , something like thatand .
Speaker 1Reasons or something like that . Ten Billion . Yeah , yeah , something like that Ten Billion or something , ten Billion , I think , something like that . Yeah , that's a good song . And then you speak . Yeah , that's a good one yeah .
Speaker 3Yeah , that's a good modern , that's a good contemporary worship it definitely is yeah . Yeah , okay .
Speaker 6Now you'll have to listen to it , is you ? Yeah , I will . Because I think it should be able to be a worship song . Oh gosh , now here we are .
Speaker 3So just let's talk about Michael's not taking requests .
Speaker 4Exactly .
Speaker 6I was going to say , let's talk about that for a second .
Speaker 3I don't take requests I'm putting on Sunday . He makes a set list Sunday morning . I come in and I sit down . I look at my message .
Speaker 6I look at the songs and I will move them around , because if there's a song that I'm like , wow , that really fits with my message today .
Speaker 3I want it in there . Most of the time they do fit perfectly . Yes , and that's my point . Like it's very intentional . He builds the set list . He's probably already got next week's set list constructed Five songs and we do it . It's worship one , worship two , worship three , worship four , worship five . So there are categories . These are the only songs you're allowed to put in one . These are the only songs you're allowed to put in two , Because it's hard to get the flow .
Speaker 3Now sometimes we will just go straight to three , and three will be the opener and then it'll be three , three , four , five , like we'll stack it . So it's a little more worshipy versus that fun opener , because sometimes that fun opener doesn't fit the message that's coming or whatever the worship experience is that's happening .
Speaker 4Are you too young to have made mixtapes ? No , I made mixtapes . That's an art .
Speaker 3I had a recording studio . We lived on McConnell Street . The house that we lived in had a bathroom in the basement . Now , when I say bathroom , it was literally a toilet with a shower curtain , Like it was a box built around it , and a shower curtain . But the basement took on water so you would have to tiptoe through the water in order to get to the— . But I had— like man , we had a cassette player in there . We'd pull the curtain shut and you'd be ready to hit record . Baby , when that song comes on the radio , baby , you hit record and you miss the first 15 seconds because the DJ was talking and wouldn't shut up or they cut off .
Speaker 4The end Yep .
Speaker 3Yep , oh yeah .
Speaker 4Yeah , I used to love to make mixtapes . That was an art man , that first song's gotta be Even past the mixtape .
Speaker 3When we got to mix CDs when we were downloading from Napster and LimeWire and infesting our computers with viruses , I would like , and the quality was total garbage . It was absolutely awful . But yeah , I was always making CDs . I got to the point to where I was so good at making mixed CDs that I had a printer that could print on the top of the CD .
Speaker 1Oh , my gosh , we were making mixed . Cds , so you didn't have like a red or green Sharpie , you had a pen .
Speaker 3I printed those bad boys Like I bought specialty CDs . They were all white on the top and you would put them in . You could print color , you could print black and white , it didn't matter , you do whatever . And then I upgraded to one that could engrave the top of the CD .
Speaker 1You had to engrave before you could burn the CD , though , because Did you have a name for your company ?
Speaker 3No , it wasn't a company , it was just .
Speaker 3I just like to mix tapes and just love doing it . You seem very official , I will bring you . So I recorded four CDs in my own house with my own stuff , like literally did all of the mixing myself , and I made four CDs that I used to sell when I would do shows . It was amazing . Yeah , I'll bring those so you can see them . And what's funny is I had completely forgotten about them until my aunt Charlene passed away . She had all four . She had the first copy of all four of those because she went everywhere with me at the time , so the first copy of all four of those she had . And when had and when she passed away , my grandma found them and gave them back to me so she had the original now I have all of those originals it's pretty
Speaker 6cool yep any any others beth no , those were just the ones I mean so number one is mary .
Speaker 3Did you know that's sad .
Speaker 6I really thought you were better than that well , you know , I , I tossed and turned and I thought you know what , what that one does just bring me tears . Because of . I just think of a mom , how precious it is pregnant and just to know that you have the Lord's child . But the answer ?
Speaker 3was . Yes , I know , but it's just the whole . And as you're holding your baby , the harmonies in that song are so good , you're looking at that baby's face and that mom looking at that baby .
Speaker 6That first time is just that .
Speaker 3Yeah , see , the first time I looked at my children I thought I'm never going to get any sleep . That's what I thought . You don't get it , yeah because I've never Right right right .
Speaker 4Yeah , I think the one we have on our Christmas playlist is Kenny Rogers and Winona Judge . That's a good version . What's your beef with Kenny Rogers ? I can't have beef with Kenny Rogers .
Speaker 3He's dead . I can't have beef with Kenny Rogers he's dead
Favorite Worship Songs and Memories
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Speaker 6How about Oceans ? I like .
Speaker 3Oceans . There are two versions of Oceans . Don't know if you're aware of that . There's a regular version and then there's an upbeat version . That's kind of like it feels kind of techno-y . Yeah , it's terrible , yeah , and nobody should ever play it . I don't know that one . It should be outlawed as a matter of fact . Ccli should just pull it off the shelf and they should never play it again .
Speaker 6Ever that ? What is it ? Turner Wells , Torn Wells , I can't remember . Take it All Back . Take it All Back .
Speaker 3I don't think I know that one . I probably would if I heard it . It's a little rappy . Oh then I definitely don't know it .
Speaker 5Oh , I like it .
Speaker 3No way , I like it a lot .
Speaker 1Great Are you , lord . Great are you Lord . It's your breath . Did I already say that ? No , okay , that might be my number one . Okay , like if I was like a singer that like when she , you know , she just really gets into it . That would be a nice one If .
Speaker 3I could pick a song that I could sing like if there was like oh , this is the one that .
Speaker 1I want to sing .
Speaker 3There is a song . This is going to be sound really stupid , okay , so forgive me . It's called Come as you Are and it's by a group called pocket full of rocks . Now , this is not the come as you are that we all like think of when we hear it . It's not the , I think crowder sings come as you are . It's not that song . This is a completely different song . Fantastic song . I can't sing it . It's keyed too high for me . I've tried to lower , I just can't do .
Speaker 1What are the lyrics ?
Speaker 3uh , I cannot sing it for you off the top of my head because it has been years . I just need the lyrics . I cannot sing it for you off the top of my head because it has been years since I've heard it .
Speaker 1I just need the lyrics . You don't know any of the lyrics .
Speaker 3Not off the top of my head , not that I would be confident to give them to you . Hold on , I'll look them up .
Speaker 6I like . Are you Washed by the Blood too ? Oh ?
Speaker 3Have you been to Jesus for the cleansing power ? I'll fly away , oh glory . Sorry , I'm not picking .
Speaker 6We're old Michael .
Speaker 3Listen , roger will tell you I lived on those songs for years . Like that was it .
Speaker 4Pocket full of rocks .
Speaker 3What was it ? Oh Come , as you Are right there . Look at that it's the number one search . Oh look , we're just going to play it Might as it . Oh Come , as you Are Right there . Look at that , it's the number one search .
Speaker 1Oh look , we're just going to play it . Might as well play it yeah .
Speaker 3This is a 90s song too . He's not mad at you , it's just a stellar song .
Speaker 2And he's not disappointed .
Speaker 3Dale sang this for me once .
Speaker 2Really His grace is greater still .
Speaker 3You hear that guy's voice .
Speaker 2Then all of your wrong choices .
Speaker 4That little Toby Keith thing . Yes , you got that vibrato .
Speaker 2He is so mercy and he is ever kind . Here is invitation .
Speaker 3His arms are Great song .
Speaker 6I kind of remember that . Yeah , we used to sing that one .
Speaker 3It's a great song it really is just generally a good song , but I can't sing it , so if there was one that I could sing , that one would be the one . See , now you need to bring up the newsboys ones . Yeah , we'll pull it up and play it on your phone . I don't have to be the dj .
Speaker 1You are the dj . That's your job . This one was that you . You missed it . You guys were at brandon lake right this one and I was it's tear off the roof . It's tear off the roof it was benjamin the , the other boy guy um highlands . I mean , as soon as it started playing , I'm like I can't stop crying like oh my gosh , are you okay ?
Speaker 3his voice just sounds just like a piano impressive sorry , okay , there you go , his voice just sounds just like a piano .
Speaker 2Impressive , sorry . Okay , there you go . Wow , see how I got him Pictures had doing this . He was playing the piano and all the chorus is almost here of grace descended from the source of its supply Cause in that end of the world .
Speaker 3That's a good song I like that Beautiful .
Speaker 1Now , who sings that one ? Benjamin William Hastings ? Was he the one that sang before ? Before ? Yes , and then he came out with him , yep .
Speaker 6Yep .
Speaker 1He's got a good album .
Speaker 6I don't know if I found the right one . Oh my gosh .
Speaker 3She can't even DJ for herself . That is not a worship song .
Speaker 6Just listen .
Speaker 3Oh yeah , it's definitely 90s news voice .
Speaker 4It's 98 degrees .
Speaker 6That's a worship song .
Speaker 3No , yes . No , I'm not saying it's not a good song .
Speaker 4Savage .
Speaker 3Garden Right .
Speaker 6Right . Who is Savage Garden Well don't play them .
Speaker 3Yeah , they only have like one hit . Oh yeah , all right , michael , we need to know your five you and Savage Guard .
Speaker 4Well , don't play them .
Speaker 1Yeah , they only have like one hit oh yeah , all right , michael , we need to know your five .
Speaker 3It's .
Speaker 1Nick's oh shoot .
Speaker 3It's Nick's turn . Still , we still have both of you . Yeah , we got time . Okay , we got 15 minutes .
Speaker 6Nick . Okay , all right , I'll learn you here .
Speaker 4We're going , my favorite all time is .
Speaker 3Were you there when they Crucified my Lord ? Oh , I don't know that . I know that song , but it sounds good .
Speaker 4Johnny Cash and the Cartersons Yep .
Speaker 3I do , know it , I do know it .
Speaker 4I don't remember exactly when I heard that song , but the first time I heard it I was just like wow , scent chills up my spine and you know , when you think about God's voice , I think it's either going to sound like Morgan Freeman or Johnny Cash .
Speaker 3I agree with you completely . The voice of God has got to sound like Morgan Freeman or Johnny Cash or we could throw Sam Elliott in there too . Yes , that's a possibility , Like the country version yeah that's a possibility .
Speaker 4I'll take that we're all psychos by the way , I like the title because it's Were you there when they Crucified my Lord ?
Speaker 3Yeah , it's a personal song .
Speaker 4It's pretty much saying it's a personal song . You are telling everybody that you have accepted Jesus Christ , your Lord and Savior . So he's saying my Lord , just talking about Jesus , historical Jesus , he's your Lord . So I really like that the part of the song . One of the Carter sisters , anita , just an amazing haunting voice , and there's a part in the song which I'll let you listen to .
Speaker 3Oh yeah , I love a good demo . By the way , this episode is definitely getting flagged for copyright infringement One hundred percent .
Speaker 4One hundred percent .
Speaker 3Yeah , one hundred percent , we're likely getting this bad boy pulled down , but we're trying and that's the thing . It'll get flagged , for sure , on YouTube it'll get flagged , but so long as we're not making money on it , they'll leave it . But we just won't be able to monetize the episode .
Speaker 4But we don't anyway .
Speaker 3I haven't seen a royalty check actually it's because I didn't put any on the episode . They've been sending me the royalty checks for two years . They've been sending me the royalty checks for two years I've been . You mean , you guys haven't been getting checks for 10 grand a month . What the heck .
Speaker 4But there's a line she sings . Sometimes it causes me to tremble and the way she sings it's just pretty good .
Speaker 3Do you have it queued up to that spot ?
Speaker 4Well , it don't take very long to get there there we go .
Speaker 2Oh , were you there when they crucified my Lord . Here we go .
Speaker 3Oh sometimes it causes me to tremble , tremble , god he brings it right down .
Speaker 4Do you know what it is ?
Speaker 3Do you know what it is about that that sends those chills ? It's the minor key . That minor key . It's like it's eerie but it's beautiful all at the same time , especially because those girls were so tight in harmonies . Anyway , they sing a four-part harmony in that and it's just like .
Speaker 5Did you ever ? Did you ever hear tennessee or any ford's version of that ?
Speaker 4no , that's pretty good pretty good too . Yeah , but that song uh , first came out in an african american hymnal in 1899 , so most likely it was it was sung in the slave field , which , yes , you can when you hear it yeah , definitely feel , you definitely feel that that song's coming right to me . I always say those songs come right up out of the earth .
Speaker 3Yep .
Speaker 4What those people are going through and they're not singing it for attention , attention , money , uh you know they're singing it because almost for survival yeah , what they're going through , what they're going through and you can hear it in the sound , the lyrics , um so I just think it's beautiful .
Speaker 4Like I said , johnny cash's voice and and anita's voice , just uh , it's almost haunting in a way . It puts you , puts you right in the moment . But I've just always loved that song . It's just , I think it's fantastic . Number two we'll go , we'll get modern . I like how Can it Be ? By Lauren Daigle .
Speaker 3I love Lauren Daigle . Oh , I love that song .
Speaker 4I think I've been there with the lyrics to that song . You know I've been there a time or two , so identify with that song and I really think that song . You know I've been there a time or two , so identify with that song and I really think that song . It's almost like an anthem . You know , she really takes off in that song . I've always loved her voice , um , but certainly it's just one of those songs of you know , always coming back to the lord , no matter how inadequate you feel .
Speaker 4Um , it's almost that um achievement or victory of being able to go back to him . And you can hear it in the song how I think .
Speaker 4I think in the way that it builds , in the way that it ends , I mean it really builds up yeah and to me it's almost like if I , you know , if I had to uh gosh , I don't know how to explain it like if I had to like uh , what do they call that ? When you uh . Well , when pitchers like go out on the ball field and stuff , like if I had to enter a building .
Speaker 1Oh yeah .
Speaker 3Any song that might be a walk . Yeah , you're not coming out to eye of the tiger . You're coming out If I had to pick a Christian song .
Speaker 1what if we all have like a walk-in song to heaven ?
Speaker 3Oh , that would be cool , like our anthem place where we get bump , bump , bump , bump . Fog machines go off , strobe lights , yeah , yeah , I want to go to heaven . Real bad now , yeah .
Speaker 2I want to rock .
Speaker 4Well , that went down a dark path . I think you took that a bit too far path . You got your point across . Yeah , that's my walk into heaven song there we go . And that whole album I think Is fantastic .
Speaker 3We're not getting passes , I'm going to have a hard time recovering , because now I'm trying to figure out what mine is . No I don't think no , that's not . This is a worship song .
Speaker 1That's not my enter into heaven song , but with your enter into heaven song , would it have to be a worship song or could it be a Christian song ?
Speaker 3I would think it could be a Christian song . I don't think it matters at that point . Yeah , because , especially Because now I'm like visualizing like strobe lights and like fog machines and like I'm thinking like dramatic . You know what I mean . So like my mind is lost at this point , Please move on before I get way out of here .
Speaker 4So number two . How can it be Number three ? We're going way back to 1927 . It was Blind Willie Johnson . Oh geez , it's an old blues song . It's called Dark Was the Night , cold Was the Ground .
Speaker 6Don't know it .
Speaker 4And it's a very haunting blues song . He's basically just playing sly guitar and moaning through it . Okay , but the song is all about the crucifixion .
Speaker 3Does he actually sing ?
Speaker 4words no , I don't think you can discern one word that he sings , but he was known to have um traveled in the south and he has a lot of songs . He does are are um I need gospel .
Speaker 3I need to clarify , though . So this somehow made it on your list , but he doesn't say any words .
Speaker 4No , okay I'm curious to hear this one . To me it's the way it sounds and the way it feels . Again , it's another song that I'm sure was a hymnal that came out of the slave song .
Speaker 4So you can hear it just coming up out of the ground and it just reminds me that it doesn't matter what language we speak , how we communicate , what language we speak , how we communicate , his word can be brought forth from anything , from any sound or emotion that we can make as human beings . His word is there , whether we can discern it lyrically or not . It's there , it's in the emotion , it's in our soul and I think you can hear it in that song . But , like I said , he traveled to South and he played blues and he mostly played gospel-tinged songs and that was almost kind of like his mission , that he went around , he played these songs and in the 20s there were certain people that they wanted to start capturing some of this music . So they would travel South to find these blues players and record their music . And it just so happens that they found him , recorded him and he only recorded a handful of songs , I believe , but for the most part they're all gospel-tinged songs and that's kind of like his small legacy
Exploring Gospel Music Influence
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Speaker 4This song has been in a lot of movies . I know it was in Walk the Line at one point . There's a little snippet of it . I think it's been in some other big movies , I forget which ones it was .
Speaker 3Listen , stop building the anticipation . Play the song Nick .
Speaker 2Geez .
Speaker 4All right , here we go .
Speaker 3Oh , I remember it .
Speaker 4And again , this was not recorded for commercial purposes , just playing it , it's just picking and singing . To me this is like meditation , Right , right . If you can discern any word in there , let me know .
Speaker 3Listen closely .
Speaker 1It sounded like I'll fly away .
Speaker 3I'm actually more obsessed with the thought that you can hear chickens in the background . I know that sounds weird , but if you listen really , really closely , like this is to me what I picture . He's legitimately sitting outside playing this , just kind of like in his own world . Stuff's going on around him . He has no idea that it's happening .
Speaker 5You know what I visualize . I visualize the field workers either going to the field or going back to their houses .
Speaker 3I'm going to assume that he's African-American . So I'm picturing skinny black man , bib overalls , sitting on a wash tub just playing that guitar . And again , nobody in the world is even like people everywhere . But he doesn't even realize it because he's just in his own world just creating this . I don't want to call it almost like a plea , that's what it feels like to me . It's this really raw , emotional here . I am Lord .
Speaker 4And this song was actually chosen to be sent into space .
Speaker 3Really .
Speaker 4I believe in 1977 , as part of a set of songs that more or less we would leave behind .
Speaker 3The aliens got a hold of that and went . What the heck ?
Speaker 4So if somebody wanted to study the human race , these would be the songs that were chosen .
Speaker 3They'd be really confused on this one , yeah . Maybe that's why they were chosen , they'd be really confused on this one .
Speaker 1Yeah , Maybe that's why they did it . They get Elvis , the Beatles and that .
Speaker 4So yeah , like I said , I could listen to that all day . Okay , so that's number three . Okay so number four , a fairly well-known song . It's a big song .
Speaker 2What a Beautiful Name .
Speaker 3What a Beautiful Name song .
Speaker 4It's a big song . What a Beautiful Name , beautiful Name . It's the greatest song . It's huge . It's the greatest song . It's huge , played everywhere . Might even be the best song . When Margie and I started coming to this church , that was probably her favorite song . I know it was a big song here at the time . It was so important to her that that is the song that she walked down the aisle to when we got married .
Speaker 3That story is the best story ever . Oh yeah , you want to tell that At some point . We need to tell that story . You guys don't know that one , do you ? Oh , my Lord , have mercy . I'll tell you what you want to get beat by a woman of God .
Speaker 4I almost got beat . You think Florence was pleased . No , no , no , no , no , no yeah she walked down the aisle to that song . So it's dear to my heart anyway , and I think it's a fantastic song . I mean I really do . He almost couldn't remember his name . Yeah , um , but we really don't play that one anymore do we ?
Speaker 3no , it's so huge , it's so huge it's the same with um good , good father . You don't hear that one a lot anymore , but there was so long of a period that we played almost every sunday yeah almost every sunday , because twice yes when we first it .
Speaker 3This is not a joke . When we sang worship , when Florence was here and I was leading worship , we would practice music and we would come in on Sunday morning , we'd run the set list and we'd work on some new stuff . You knew you had to be done by the time she walked in the building , because if you were singing a song that she's like oh , I like that song , she would say put that one in the list for this morning . And we don't know it . Like we haven't put slides together , we haven't done anything . And she's like no , I want you to do that one . That was good , good father . Yeah , we didn't know it . Like we knew the words and we were like there were a couple of spots that were rough . And she walked in one morning and we were singing it and she stopped at her seat . She stood there quietly and listened and I said , no , we're just , we just started working on it .
Speaker 3And she said , yeah , put that one on the list this morning . And we did it . Not well , but we did it not once but twice , cause she would . She had this thing and for those of you who can't see me , she would spin her finger . So , like her and I would make eye contact and she would do this . And that meant keep going . And we did tracks , so it wasn't like you just keep going , the track stops , it starts again and you start the song . It was so uncomfortable , but she was just , she loved the song and that was what it was .
Speaker 1Now , Alyssa does not like that song , correct ?
Speaker 3I don't know .
Speaker 1I thought you I could have swore you said Good , good Father is one she does not like . Well , I think it . I mean , I'm kind of the same way with it .
Speaker 2We're so over it yeah .
Speaker 3And again I get the passion behind the song . I don't think the anointing is gone . My love for the song has been burnt out .
Speaker 1Have you guys ever set your alarm clock to a song ?
Speaker 3No .
Speaker 1Don't do it , especially to a song that you like , because you will grow to hate it . I'm to a song that you like because you will grow to hate it . I'm like , nah , impossible , no , I did , and it's true . So that's kind of what it reminds me of , like you play it too much and then so yeah yeah , mine goes off to a song every day it
Speaker 4wasn't intentional , but it's want to be starting something by michael jackson oh , it was like on an 80s playlist but it plays out every day . Well , it makes sense want to be starting something .
Speaker 3We're starting today I thought for starting something we're starting today . I thought for a second no , I'm not going to lie . I thought for a second he was going to say wannabe by the Spice Girls .
Speaker 2And I was like wait a second , nick .
Speaker 3I was like Nick , we got to talk . Buddy , start tomorrow morning .
Speaker 4Getting back to what a beautiful name , I learned that one criticism from a lot of pastors was the line of he didn't want heaven without us . So and they said well , like jesus isn't . Jesus isn't needy , he doesn't need us , he has everything but he needs .
Speaker 3That's not why he was doing like well they're , you're totally misconstrued . Yeah , the design , though , for heaven , the design for the death on the cross , was so that we would be , right , yeah but ,
Speaker 4I guess there was a lot of criticism from pastors saying that they didn't appreciate that .
Speaker 3But they don't criticize any of the other crap that goes on in the church .
Speaker 4Interesting , that's one thing I learned by studying up on that song , number five , number five there will be peace in the valley Elvis .
Speaker 3Presley .
Speaker 5Alright , good choice .
Speaker 4Probably the first gospel song that I fell in love with . Yeah , and that's all thanks to listening to Elvis and just , and I didn't realize until I was studying for this that that is on the Christmas album .
Speaker 3That is correct . That is correct . Didn't make it to a gospel album until much later . They forced out a Christmas album early on . They didn't have enough music to fill it , so they put that one in Mama Like the Roses . Have you guys ever heard that song ? If you ever get the chance , skip it . It's terrible , but I do sing it every year in my Christmas show .
Speaker 4As you know , he sang that on his third and final appearance on the Ed Sullivan show and they didn't want him to do it . And he said well , I promised my mama I would sing it for her and I'm going to sing it . And he said something . He was inspired by something else some kind of conflict between Russia and Hungary and it inspired him to want to perform that song . And he basically said I'm doing it . If I don't do it , I'm not doing the show . So Ed Sullivan said okay , you can do it show . So ed sullivan said okay , you can do it . And I think that's a pretty cool thing for a rock and roll singer in 1957 to go on to go on tv and do a gospel number but it was so common back then .
Speaker 3Back then a lot of them oh yeah , I mean every country artist yeah , a lot of yeah , a lot of , and I don't want to say elvis was really the first of his kind , right ? So when they were looking at , like , what do we record next ? Everybody , everybody had a Christmas album , everybody had a gospel album , and so it was natural for him to record one because it fit the mold . But it didn't fit the mold of Elvis that everybody expected Do you know what I mean .
Speaker 3Like you'd come to expect rockabilly music , that's all right , blue suede shoes , things like that .
Speaker 4So yeah , that mom's favorite song and for me that song , I think at the time because when I first started listening to elvis I think I was when I seriously got into his music um , I was probably getting right into high school , I think . So eighth , ninth grade , and for some of the things that are going on in my life I for some I already felt old . So when he would say I'm so tired and so weary , it's like I got it yeah , I feel it , man .
Speaker 4Yeah , like I know where I'm in eighth grade and I get it yeah yeah , so I just identified with that right away and I just loved his uh performance of that song . I thought his his vocal performance on that was so tip top .
Speaker 3Just a fun little fact about that it was recorded for the ed sullivan show , like obviously while he was on there . So you've got that version and there's only other one other version that exists of that song other than the other cuts when they were recording it . He didn't record it later in life for other albums . If you listen to any of his , any of his pop music , any of his rock music , you've got suspicious minds burn in love . All of those big like hits , those all had multiple like he would do them on different albums and such . That was the only take that he like he only ever did it in one album . It was never re-recorded . So that's kind of like that raw , like this is Elvis at his finest . You really didn't get much different than that . And did you know the only Grammys he ever won were for his gospel music . Never won a Grammy for anything other than gospel music . Fun fact there my turn .
Speaker 3Your turn All right , I have to run through these because we've got to wrap up pretty soon . So number five Elvis , of course . How many of you have watched most of the Elvis movies ? I didn't figure anybody in the room was going to agree with him His movies .
Speaker 4His movies . I've watched most of the early ones . We're getting to the late .
Speaker 3Okay , so this is the late one . So have you ever seen the Trouble with Girls ?
Speaker 5No , yeah , 20 years
Favorite Gospel Music and Memories
Speaker 5ago . Okay , so the premise of this , movie Five cents .
Speaker 3The premise of this movie is he is the leader of a traveling carnival . He's kind of the boss man of this traveling carnival . I thought that was Roundabout , no Roustabout is what you were thinking of .
Speaker 2Did I say roundabout ? Yes ?
Speaker 3No , that's the thing we hate , we hate roundabouts .
Speaker 3Don't get us started . Don't get us started . Got my blood pressures up now . So this was a like . It came in on a train and they called it the Chautauqua . Okay , I don't know what that means , but it was a really great movie . The girl who voiced Velma in Scooby-D do played alongside him in this movie . The Chautauqua comes to town . There's this guy who beats a lady and they find him dead . It's a whole thing . They're trying to figure out who the person is that did it . It's not like a whodunit , but it kind of feels that way . And at one point all of the gospel singers who are supposed to be in one of the tents that night get sick . And Elvis comes out on stage and he sings a song called swing down , sweet chariot . Oh yeah , it is , hands down , favorite elvis gospels . One of my favorite elvis gospel songs . I won't say my favorite , but I like that version , not the studio recorded version , because it's just him clapping with the jordan airs behind him . Phenomenal four-part harmonies , top notch . Okay , that's number five , number four another Elvis song .
Speaker 4Hold on hold on . Is this it ?
Speaker 3That's the studio version . Still a wonderful song .
Speaker 4I like it too .
Speaker 3Wonderful song .
Speaker 4So the version you're talking about just has his voice .
Speaker 3Yeah , well , I think there might be some piano , but it's nothing like that . It's not produced , it's very raw .
Speaker 6See if you can find the movie version . I don't see it . I like the Gaithers singing that one .
Speaker 3I've never heard the Gaithers sing it . When it comes on , it's got to be Elvis .
Speaker 4Johnny Cash sang that too .
Speaker 3Oh , I meant to tell you real quick . Do you remember ? I Was there when it Happened by Johnny Cash .
Speaker 4Oh yeah , that's a good one too .
Speaker 3It can't make my top five . I loved that one too .
Speaker 4Yeah , it was a good one .
Speaker 3So that's number five . Number four another Elvis song . I John Obsessed with that one right now , but not the Elvis version that everybody has come to know . They did a remix on all of his gospel music on an album called no One Stands Alone and Lisa Marie re-recorded no One Stands Alone as a duet with Elvis on that album Super cool duet . But the I John version that they put on there super fun , really upbeat . It's a blast . It's one of my favorites . Number four , number three Thirst For you , but not the CeCe Winans version . It can't be CeCe Winans . If we're going to listen to Thirst For you , it has to be the Awak band or bust . Good luck finding it , unless you know where it's hidden on youtube with a link that I have so , listen , I don't know how this ever came to pass problem with the rights or something ?
Speaker 3well , I don't you , I can't even find the awakening band . So here's what happened back when florence was alive . Nick kearns was here , he and jeff , and he and I did a lot of the like . We created the videos for Florence and he had the CD for the awakening band and we loved that song . So we made a lyric video for that song . But it's a four , three square video and I'm obsessed with that version . No other version except for that one . It's amazing and it's not far off . Isn't that the one we did ? I played it the other sunday . I played it a few sundays ago because I went back during communion , actually .
Speaker 6So it'd been last last sunday yeah , I was in nursery , so yeah yeah .
Speaker 3So I like I went back and I found it for him and I was like this is the one play , nothing else . Okay , so that's number three . Number two another Elvis song . Anybody got a guess ? Oh , come on how . Great , thou Art , you got it how Great Thou Art , but only the live version with the double ending . I love it . I'm obsessed with it .
Speaker 4What album is that from ?
Speaker 3I don't actually know where it would have been on albums . I mean the live version .
Speaker 3Yeah that's what I'm saying . What album it would have been . On albums it was , I mean the live version . Yeah , that's what I'm saying . Like what album they would have put that on . It would have been later Vegas stuff , so probably been 74 ish . So somewhere in that era , somewhere in that that year , I would guess my number one song If for anybody who can't guess this one , you must live under a rock is thank you , Lord Don Moen . That's just like , like it always will be it'll . I'll never . I don't think I'll ever outgrow it . Even when it plays here on sunday mornings it's still like there's an emotional attachment to that oh yeah yeah , um , you took my sickness and healed all my pain .
Speaker 3Um , you took my sorrow . I mean , there's just so many lines in that that are powerful that I just love . But then I really love the key change in that song . So , from from a musical standpoint , the key change is my favorite part , but I love the words . Yeah , that's my top five here . Do you guys want me to play Thirst for you real quick ? Let's see if I can find it . Sure .
Speaker 2Let's see .
Speaker 5We're going to start bringing that coffee pot down here .
Speaker 3I know , because I was thinking I'm dry man , I'm dry , I've got to find YouTube . It's so funny because I've always like I hid this link on YouTube so that it would always be there .
Speaker 5And now you can't find it .
Speaker 3No , I know exactly how to find it . How do you find YouTube Right there it is . Yeah , Roger , what's YouTube ? What's the YouTube ?
Speaker 5Is that like the TV , it won't open . Evidently you're not supposed to play it .
Speaker 3Apparently not Probably copyright reasons again . Yeah , there you go . That's weird because they found oh , there it is .
Speaker 5I knew supposed to play it Apparently not Probably copyright reasons again .
Speaker 3Yeah , there you go . That's weird because I found oh , there it is . I knew I'd find it . Candy Crush . Hold on , I've got to get through my ads . It's funny .
Speaker 4We're running ads now .
Speaker 3Yes , this message is brought to you by Candy Crush . Let's skip this . Something about this song .
Speaker 1I've always liked this song and it's probably because she always played it it was Communion . This was our .
Speaker 3Communion song . So this was kind of one that I grew attached to . You can't go out and find the Awakening . If you Google them , you find music , but not that song . I don't know why . I don't know whatever happened to it , but anyhow , maybe CeCe Wine and sued them and so it doesn't exist anywhere , except for right there on that one video .
Speaker 4So we got time to tell the story real quick . We might as well , because because I mean , we're already over time okay , so nick and margie are getting married .
Speaker 3I'm kind of the tech guy at the church now and , like dan , was running sound , but when there was extracurricular stuff , usually I was the guy that would come and take care of it . So margie asked me to play music at the wedding , at the during the service , and I agreed . She told me when rehearsal was . However , I forgot .
Speaker 3So she called me to remind me and she said hey , we're at the church , are you coming ? And I yell oh F really loud into the phone , not knowing I was on speakerphone and Florence was standing right next to her and I could have died . I came in the building with my tail tucked between my legs , like I was .
Speaker 3I was horrified . And you know what's funny ? She never said anything to me , like because she I knew that she knew and that was bad enough , like there was nothing she could have said to like make me feel worse than how .
Speaker 6I already felt and at the time .
Speaker 3I mean , I was fairly a fairly new Christian at the time , so there wasn't like a lot of like . It was like there was no buffer at that point . There still really isn't , but there was really no buffer at that point . It just flew out the trap and yeah . I had completely forgotten about that story until Margie reminded me several years ago . She was like do you remember ? And I was like oh my gosh , I didn't until you reminded me . Could you let that one die please ?
Speaker 1what year did you guys get married ?
Speaker 3wow , that's terrible 2018 .
Speaker 4I was thinking like 2016 to Wow .
Speaker 3that's terrible 2018 .
Speaker 1Okay , yeah . Yeah , I was thinking like 2016 to 19, . Somewhere around there .
Speaker 3Crazy stuff Huh .
Speaker 4Yeah , because it was six years this year , so yeah , 2018 .
Speaker 1Yeah , margie , he knew . See , he knew I had to test him .
Speaker 4Well , once you go like 2020 to 2024 , you can track but once you're going back to the teens .
Speaker 3then you're like oh , yeah , yeah , math gets hard , it's hard now .
Speaker 1Math ain't math yeah the math ain't math .
Memorable Dates and Prayers
Speaker 3I always tell my wife when we talk about our anniversary , like we got married on February 12th . That was not intentional for any reason other than it happened to be the day that worked Right . But it's nice for me Valentine's Day , so I know two days before .
Speaker 4Valentine's Day . We got an anniversary coming up .
Speaker 3If you asked me the year that we got married .
Speaker 4Just say it's Lincoln's birthday Is that Lincoln's birthday , february 12th .
Speaker 2Yeah , I didn't know , that Now I know You'll never forget it again .
Speaker 3The more you know . Alyssa was born on August 15th , which is the day before Elvis passed away , so that's kind of my I do that with people .
Speaker 4That's how I never forget her birthday . Maggie's birthday is April 14th , so I know that's the day Lincoln was assassinated , see .
Speaker 1And it's the day before Tax Day .
Speaker 4Nah , that doesn't matter .
Speaker 1Well , Cooper's induction date was the 15th . I didn't have him then , oh goodness .
Speaker 3Okay , anything else . Any other fun stories ?
Speaker 2Nope .
Speaker 3Pastor Roger , you want to pray for us ?
Speaker 5Oh , heavenly Father , we do thank you , lord , for this day . Lord , we thank you for the fun that we can have here , lord , at this table . Lord , just to talk about you , to talk about the things that you do for us , Lord , the things that other Christians have written down , lord , that just remind us of you , lord , we just thank you for that , lord . Lord , we just ask you to take and be with each person , lord , as they leave this table . Lord , let them have a safe travel home , lord , and just have a blessed week . Lord , we just thank you and praise you and we give you all the glory , amen .
Speaker 6Amen .
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