"Good Advice" vs. Spiritual Advice

Join us in this enlightening episode where we unravel the differences between good advice and spiritual advice. How do these forms of support differ in their impact on our lives? We explore the importance of spiritual guidance and how it can foster not only growth but also genuine connections with others in our community.

Drawing from personal stories and relatable experiences surrounding the care of feral cats, we delve into the richness of spiritual insights shaping our choices. Fear of rejection when discussing beliefs often prevents us from planting seeds of faith; we address this while emphasizing the value of fellowship and support. Listeners will discover how spiritual conversations can redefine relationships and lead to profound changes. 

Enhance your understanding of the subtle nuances between good advice and deeper wisdom that comes from faith. Engage with us as we navigate these intricate conversations, offering solutions to overcome fears and embrace our roles as spiritual guides. Don't forget to subscribe, share your thoughts, or leave a review! Your insights matter to us!

Transcript

Intro: Cats and Community Support

Speaker 1 0:37

Do it underneath the radar, so to speak. So I'll mention it to her and see if, maybe, because that's the thing, you've got to get them trapped and you've got to get them fixed.

Speaker 2 0:48

I know. I talked to her before and she said they won't fix them during the winter because they'll be out in the wild.

Speaker 1 0:54

But the only problem now is, though, you may have to pay for it.

Speaker 2 1:00

Well, my worry is that she's going to have these kittens. You know, Margie, she's like I don't care. I'll pay for the next or before.

Speaker 1 1:06

Tnr would pay for all that, so all you had to do was to work to trap them and get them to the vet. So that'd be the thing now.

Speaker 2 1:15

The thing is is if you get, she's going to explode any day soon.

Speaker 3 1:22

Well, you need to trap her now and put her someplace where she can't get out and where she has them, and then maybe you can you know, tame them down. Well, interact with them.

Speaker 2 1:34

That's what I'm worried about, because as soon as I mess with them, she'll move them.

Speaker 3 1:38

Well, yeah, oh, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 1:41

I'm sure she'll have them in that heated house. One of the girls at work said that she'd take them for barn cats. But she's like I don't feed my barn cats, I'm like I warm their food up on cold mornings. You got enough mice out there, the moles. If I send, I'll bring you a bag of food. If I send you a bag of food, if I bring you a bag of food, will you feed her?

Speaker 1 2:10

We've got it's not even springtime yet.

Speaker 3 2:14

We have three down at work and they get fed twice a day, once in the morning, and then they get food at night.

Speaker 5 2:25

Dad's animals get fed twice a day.

Speaker 3 2:28

But then on the weekends they fend for themselves. They get. Well, a guy comes down on Friday and gives them some. I don't know if he goes on Saturday and Sunday, so they probably come up to your house and eat.

Speaker 2 2:39

Probably they heard about that heated house. Yeah, the warmed up food Warmed up food. Maybe a little milk here and there.

Speaker 3 2:50

Ours is like chocolate milk. They get chocolate milk once in a while.

Speaker 2 2:55

I'm not even going to start that.

Speaker 3 2:59

They know the joke. Fat Cat knows the joke too.

Speaker 1 3:03

My cats get the milk out of my cereal bowl sometimes.

Speaker 6 3:08

Do you not like that milk? I'm not supposed to do that. Do you like the milk? You know.

Speaker 1 3:14

I don't like to drink the milk so much as I used to.

Speaker 3 3:18

Yeah, I don't know, I used to love it, but Too much sugar in it, maybe, yeah, yeah, now you're not. You're not supposed to eat all that. When you got four cats looking up, actually like are you done yet?

Speaker 1 3:33

somebody's done it before yeah, yeah, they know the routine. You kind of give in. You know like okay don't let mommy, see, here we go yeah, my and mommy's like don't let daddy. That's the thing as much as she spoils them. You know, I give a little bit of milk and I'm the villain, really but it wasn't her idea.

Speaker 3 3:55

That's true, you know it's your idea, so yeah mine. All you gotta do is either get popcorn or chips or pretzels, and they're all right there. My wife can have a full course meal and be sitting in the recliner watching TV, and they don't even bother.

Speaker 6 4:17

It's because you give in, you're the game. Uh-huh, see yeah.

Speaker 3 4:20

That's how Chase is.

Speaker 6 4:20

It's because you give in, you're the game, uh-huh.

Speaker 3 4:22

See yeah. That's how Chase is.

Speaker 6 4:24

Zara's like she doesn't really bother with me because I rarely give her anything.

Speaker 3 4:30

Just Chase.

Speaker 6 4:31

Oh yeah.

Speaker 3 4:33

Oh yeah, He'll teach Cooper to do that.

Speaker 6 4:35

Oh yeah, cooper's already been like dropping his food. I'm like that's your, your egg, not zara's egg.

Speaker 1 4:47

I ate all the broccoli mom you can't be dropping eggs right now no, no, no yeah I was gonna.

Speaker 3 4:56

I was gonna thinking about getting some more chickens, but man, they're like four bucks a piece for peeps. Really. Yeah, you don't know if they're going to live or die. Yeah, because last time I got six, I ended up with four.

Speaker 6 5:13

Well, nick, what's the topic? Are we going for it?

Speaker 1 5:16

Yeah, what is the difference between good advice and spiritual advice?

Speaker 3 5:22

They both should be the same, but they're not.

Speaker 6 5:25

Realistically. Yeah, they should. Yeah, you know, because good advice— I mean any spiritual advice is good advice.

Speaker 1 5:31

But that doesn't mean that good advice is necessarily spiritual advice?

The Challenge of Trapping Feral Cats

Speaker 2 5:34

Yes, well, that's true, I think your non-Christians probably are really—I mean, they don't know the spiritual advice to give, but as Christians we should be giving it. Whether we always do or not, I don't know. Yeah.

Speaker 6 5:50

Yeah, I think that's hard like to put yourself in line to make sure that you are giving spiritual advice advice.

Speaker 1 6:08

Well, I think a lot of times good advice is an immediate uh, you know it's what's what somebody wants to hear.

Speaker 5 6:13

It's immediate fix. Yeah, it's that practical solution to whatever the problem is.

Speaker 1 6:15

Yeah, yeah you know somebody's you know hurting or having a hard time, and a lot of times you just you just want to give them what they want to hear to make them feel better. You know, and it's not, and a lot of times I think good advice can be short-term advice instead of long-term advice. You know, just because you know you give good advice doesn't mean that person is going to take it and necessarily grow from it, where I think if you give them spiritual advice, it gives them something to work towards, not just an immediate fix of saying you know, yeah, it'll get better. You know, um, it's something that they can take, you know, they can read into it, they can read the word and they can grow from that and they might not take it right away.

Speaker 6 6:59

they, they might be like I'm not listening to that nonsense. You tell me that all the time, blah, blah, blah, blah blah. But it's almost like you're planting that seed.

Speaker 1 7:08

You might not see it reap, but yeah, yeah, because it's very hard and sometimes perhaps it's okay. When you know that somebody, when you know that somebody hasn't been saved yet, they're not necessarily a Christian, is it okay to give them spiritual advice and yet not tell them the source, like you know, because you don't want to push somebody too, hard onto the word.

Speaker 1 7:39

So, or, or should we be completely up front and try to push the fact that, yeah, you're giving them, you're giving the word of god, you're not just giving them. You know what you would do in that? Situation and that's another thing. I think sometimes people go well, here's what I would do in that situation, and you think you're giving them good advice and not necessarily giving them what God thinks you should do.

Speaker 3 8:03

And that advice may not pertain to them, or it pertains to them, but it may not be the advice that they need, you know. I mean you can tell somebody something, and even spiritual or just an advice, and it's up to them for what they do with it. If they take it, okay. If they don't, well, you did your part. It's like trying to lead somebody to salvation. I mean you can tell them, but you can't make them. You can't Right yeah.

Speaker 6 8:47

So your question about do you think we should?

Speaker 1 8:50

almost like— yeah, should we be saying like okay, you know what you really need is the Word of God? So you're being very upfront about saying you know this is the advice that I'm giving you. You need Jesus.

Speaker 6 9:02

Yeah, you need.

Speaker 1 9:03

Jesus, as opposed to saying you have the spiritual knowledge, yeah, and you give it to them in a way where you know it's not pushing them away because you're trying to be.

Speaker 6 9:16

Right.

Speaker 1 9:16

You know, Spiritual.

Speaker 6 9:18

You're not thumping the Bible. Yeah, right, yeah.

Speaker 2 9:22

Get them to a place where you think they need to be so, is it? Or or should we not do that? They're hearing the word right right.

Speaker 1 9:28

but you know, should we be conscious of the fact that we want them to know they're hearing the word, or do you think that comes in time? Do you think we should? You know, if we're lucky enough to have somebody come to us asking us for advice, for whatever reason, they can look at us and see that, yeah, you know, this person seems like they've got it together, but they might not necessarily know your background, that you're a Christian. Right.

Speaker 1 9:52

You know. So should you just give them that advice from that spiritual knowledge, without you know, revealing the true, you know source, or should you be?

Speaker 2 10:05

know, revealing the true you know source, or should you be? If they're not a question and you're giving them the spiritual advice and telling them it's from the bible, they're just gonna be like whatever you know. I think if you just shared that with them without telling them and then maybe down the road hey, you know, this is in the book like oh, that's where this came from.

Speaker 1 10:19

Be like hey, I see that's. Yeah, this has helped you so far. Well, let me tell you a little more. That's where this came from. Or be like hey, I see that, yeah, this has helped you so far.

Speaker 2 10:22

Well, let me tell you a little more about where that comes from. It's kind of like telling somebody that's not a Christian, well, I'll pray for you and they're like you know, yeah, right.

Speaker 6 10:31

Yeah, because that's what I was just thinking, Like if you started out saying well, you know, Mark, chapter 1 one tells us like as soon as you say that, like it's going to go in one ear out the other, yeah, yeah. But I think I think almost like following through with it, like if they do accept that piece of advice, and then you say something like oh, I saw that, you know, that's kind of working.

Speaker 2 10:55

Like especially if they continue to come.

Speaker 6 10:57

Yeah, yes, yeah to come.

Speaker 5 11:04

Yeah, yes, yeah for sure yeah yeah and they see that passion in you, or you know the way that you present it as well, not just that negative sometimes how you present something yeah well, I always go, you know, I always go back to the self-help.

Good Advice vs. Spiritual Advice

Speaker 1 11:19

you know, everybody loves the self-help, everybody loves the self-help category in the bookstore, everybody loves to listen to podcasts about doing better self-help, better mental health, all of those things. I mean that's a thing that everybody seems to catch on with. It's very popular. It's very popular, but it's not so popular to reveal what is the source of that. True, mental health which is, you know, having Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. You know that's not necessarily a well. Let's face it, it's not a multi-million dollar you know, yeah.

Speaker 1 12:00

Seller, yeah, I mean how many mental you know. I'd love to know what the sales are for mental health books.

Speaker 5 12:05

Self-help books you know, I mean yeah, because you get a lot of movie stars, that we have inner peace we'll learn that inner peace even if life isn't going the way that we think it should we learn to have that inner peace, no matter what's going on around us yeah, but how much money?

Speaker 3 12:22

how much money do these people pay for them books?

Speaker 1 12:24

jesus is free well, right, that's what I'm saying people don't mind. People don't mind paying, that you know, to subscribe to these podcasts or these youtube sessions or to the books. They don't mind paying all that money and like. Like I said, it's a big thing and you know how many movie stars have their own, you know? Path to life books based on their experience, and so few of them actually mentioned anything about Christ or about God. You just see a lot of that. You know yoga, all those things.

Speaker 1 12:58

And I don't think those things are negative.

Speaker 1 12:59

I think those things are good for people. But it's just curious to me that you know, everybody wants to feel better, to have a better frame of mind, to be more positive, with just positive conversation, you know, and good advice, you know, as, because you're saying well, arnold Schwarzenegger, you know, told me that in his book he wrote that here's how he does it, you know, or so-and-so, this is how they do it, and a lot of times it's you know, and I'm not saying that Arnold's not a Christian, I'm not saying that I don't know. But I guess that's the thing I don't know, like, cause I listened to his book and I thought it was a really good book, based on his experiences and how he's been able to be successful. But he didn't really talk a lot about God like as being a true source of inspiration and life. So maybe he just chose to leave it out, I don't know.

Speaker 1 14:01

And in life, so maybe he just chose to leave it out, I don't know. So it would sell more, I don't know, but I think a lot of times that's where we are as a society is yeah, we're all on board with better mental health, more positivity. We want everybody to be kind and love one another. But if we say Jesus Christ, then there's a lot of people that go. Well, wait a minute, that's too much.

Speaker 5 14:22

Yeah, because now we're given our personal truth.

Speaker 1 14:24

Yeah. And why is that? Why is it all of a sudden, when we say Jesus Christ, it's become a personal thing. Yeah, yes, yeah. I mean we could talk about as many vitamins. I don't know how many people are telling me oh, you need to take fish oil. Fish oil solves so many of your problems and maybe it will. Maybe it will help me, but I don't think that alone.

Speaker 1 14:45

Yeah, is going to solve all my problems no, like I said, we can have this open forum to talk about any drug, any prescription, any. You know all of these things, but as soon as we say jesus christ, it's like back up, yeah that whoa, that kind of led me.

Speaker 6 15:01

It's so crazy that this conversation is taking this turn, because today I was like, oh, I had like a bad chip on my shoulder from someone who's not a believer. In fact, she's very open about being um, yeah, I almost said racist. My goodness, my head's in the clouds today I'm like don't say that.

Speaker 6 15:24

Yes, very open about being an atheist, and the other day she's like she posts on Facebook oh, asking for positive thoughts, vibes, whatever, or comma, whatever you believe in. And I'm like you could have replaced that whatever you believe in with prayers, because I like you could have replaced that whatever you believe in with prayers, because I know that's what you're asking for.

Speaker 2 15:46

That blows my mind. They will ask for prayers. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 15:51

Yes, that's what I'm saying. It just irked me. They know. They just don't want to make that commitment and that's why she wouldn't have typed whatever you believe in, if she didn't want those prayers. You know what I mean.

Speaker 3 16:04

Yeah, yeah, and we know prayer works.

Speaker 2 16:08

Mm-hmm. Yeah, I have a friend that just recently lost her husband and we're not real close, close friends, but I've kind of reached out to her since he got sick and was gone very rapidly and she's not handling it well at all and I always tell her, you know, when I hang up the phone. Well, you know, I'm going to continue to pray for you. You do that. You pray for your God for me, because I need it. And she's like your God, your.

Speaker 2 16:35

God, okay, but at least she's not denying that there's a God, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 16:42

Yeah, that's. I kind of have someone in my life that's kind of like that too, like they're almost one foot in, one foot out, but they'll still say, you're God, you know. Or like, oh, I'm trying to believe, I'm like it's not hard, you know, it's not.

Speaker 1 16:59

Well, like Roger said, it's the only free subscription out there.

Speaker 6 17:02

Yeah, the only thing that'll be there for you 24-7, when you're knocking on the door at 3 am.

Speaker 2 17:10

I think sometimes people stumble when they're not walking with Christ, but all of a sudden, now they're going to start praying to him and they don't see a reaction. Yeah, right away, right away.

Speaker 3 17:19

And then they're like, oh well, they don't see a reaction. Yeah, right away, right away.

Speaker 2 17:23

And then they're like oh well, he didn't answer my prayers, well, maybe he did.

Speaker 6 17:26

Yeah, maybe in a different way, maybe his answer was unanswered prayers. Exactly. You know, I mean Exactly, because there's something better down there. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 17:47

Well, I think a lot of people have in their mind that's what god should be, if there's. If there's a god, why hasn't he done this or done that in my life? But they never ask what have I ever done?

Speaker 6 17:56

for well, and I think that's just it. That's just an ignorant thought, because why would he be your genie for what he did for us? Why in the world would he?

Speaker 1 18:05

do that and it's common sense, Like any relationship you have with anybody. It doesn't work that way.

Speaker 6 18:11

So why would it?

Speaker 1 18:12

work that way. It's not a one-way street, nope, but so many people, it's like they won't believe, unless it's on those terms, like I'm still waiting on God to do something in my life to prove to me that he's real.

Speaker 3 18:25

Yeah, I wanted that new car and he hasn't given it to me yet. Well, you know it's like. What have you done to?

Speaker 1 18:30

you know, to make that prayer come to fruition. Yeah, what have you done?

Speaker 6 18:33

What work have you put in? Yeah, like Michael was saying Sunday, like the, if you're asking, you know asking so much from him. What have you done? Like chances are is you've done little with what you have now, so he's not going to bless you with more.

Speaker 2 18:51

We want his hand. We don't want to give him our heart. Yeah.

Speaker 3 19:00

It's all very easy.

Speaker 2 19:10

We like to make everything complicated. You just have to submit, you know, I think they get this idea in their head that I mean, yeah, that, oh well, I'm gonna have to change no, you will yeah but you'll, your heart's desire will be to want to change.

Speaker 6 19:21

It's not going to happen overnight.

Speaker 2 19:23

We're all sinners. We stumble and fall every day. I think that they think I've got to walk the straight line.

Speaker 5 19:31

Yeah, I've got to clean myself up first.

Speaker 1 19:33

That's a great point.

Speaker 2 19:35

Pastor Oki always used to say you can't clean the fish before you catch them. Good analogy. Yeah, you know yeah.

Speaker 5 19:43

Good analogy, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 19:47

When they give their heart to the Lord, he'll prune them.

Speaker 5 19:51

Yep, absolutely, when you've truly given your heart to the. Lord, he will give you that desire to change.

The Nature of Spiritual Growth

Speaker 1 20:02

Yeah, it's just like planting a tree. I mean, I planted my trees that I have like two years ago and I'm looking at them like we're coming into another spring. I'm like I hope they get a little bigger this year. When are they really going to start? Growing yeah and I know they've grown, I know they have, but it hasn't been like just not wow, you want it to yeah you, but you may.

Speaker 3 20:21

You may never see them get to maturity.

Speaker 1 20:23

And that's true, yeah. I may not you know, but it's that same type of vision of just. You know, we want that instant, right now, instant result, and if you don't see it, then you think there's no work being done. Yeah.

Speaker 2 20:36

And that's just like when you plant a seed you know, yeah, you may plant a seed and that, that's all your responsibility is to plant that seed, dawn's gonna come along and water it. Roger's gonna come along and help it when it's starting to lean the wrong way and help him get the weeds out.

Speaker 1 20:52

You know it just yeah, well, and that's where fellowship comes into play exactly for a lot of people and they don't understand that either that you know, well, god hasn't done anything in my life. Well, what are you surrounded by, you know? Are you surrounded by like-minded people that want to see God move in your life, or are you with a bunch of people that could care less whether you know you improve.

Speaker 1 21:18

You know that you have a relationship with them. You know they couldn't carry you away. In fact, they're probably the biggest that you have a relationship with them. You know they couldn't carry you away. In fact, they're probably the biggest distraction that you have. Yeah, so if you don't have that fellowship, then you can't do what you just said.

Speaker 6 21:29

You don't have that help, absolutely yeah um, you said you don't have that help and I'm just thinking like yeah, you don't have that mentorship, like no, you almost have like a you don't have that chain yeah you know, it's like a chain.

Speaker 1 21:46

I mean one length. One length by itself, I suppose, is pretty strong, but what's it going to do? Yeah, but if you put two or three together yeah, yeah, yeah you. So, yeah, you might be a strong person, you might be somebody who responds well to positivity, to positive advice, but nobody ever does anything on their own.

Speaker 6 22:12

You can only go so far.

Speaker 1 22:13

You can only go so far by yourself and you know, unfortunately, if you start connecting weak links to your chain well, yeah, and then, once you start to stumble, who was there to support?

Speaker 2 22:26

you yeah at least if you're like with like-minded people, yep because if you're still hanging with those and then you start stumbling, they're like oh yeah, we told you they're gonna be stumbling and then they're just going to grab your arm and take you right down with them.

Speaker 6 22:43

Yep.

Speaker 1 22:45

Or it'll just be all those links will be scattered, they'll all break and scatter and you won't have anything left. So yeah, it's usually, you know, being with strong people and good faith and good fellowship that chain gets longer and longer, and it gets, you know, it gets tougher and tougher, so and it can reach more people you know, that's the thing.

Speaker 6 23:08

Each link you kind of reach more people as you go and then it can start sprouting off like to go other directions yeah, so I've never seen a chain sprout off.

Speaker 3 23:20

Oh.

Speaker 1 23:20

Roger, yeah, oh, come on.

Speaker 2 23:21

You're adding a link going this way and another one going this way.

Speaker 3 23:24

I don't know. I've seen a lot of chains.

Speaker 6 23:29

We're building our own wall. Yeah, come on, Roger.

Speaker 2 23:33

We're not going to go buy it.

Speaker 6 23:34

We're building our own. Got to be imaginative, gotta be imaginative.

Speaker 2 23:41

I think when you do make that change in your life and you know you still have those friends that you know I'm going to say still in the world, whatever their eyes are upon you waiting, so you know when you do stumble they're going to be right there.

Speaker 3 23:57

Oh yeah, they're like white on rice, so you know, when you do stumble they're going to be right there. Oh yeah, they're like white on rice, but that's why it's so, like you said, being with like-minded people is so important. Yeah, but are those people in the world? Were they really your friends?

Speaker 1 24:17

Usually you find out they're not when you put the party in.

Speaker 4 24:18

you know all that yeah a lot of them disappear, you never hear from them again after that happens.

Speaker 1 24:22

Which was, you know, when I shared that video a couple weeks ago about this thing and Lex Luger, you know like he at first thought, you know, like I lost my best friend, and for a while I guess he did, because he chose to keep doing the partying and living that lifestyle. Doing, yeah, the partying and living that lifestyle, and, uh, but wouldn't you know it, the one friend that was still there when he was ready to make a real change in his life was there.

Speaker 1 24:45

Yep, he was the guy that was still there you know, willing to help him and and see his, you know, relationship with christ come, come full circle and uh, yeah, that that's a great point is, you know you can if you have. I think if you truly have somebody in your life that wants to be there for you spiritually, they'll always be there.

Speaker 6 25:09

Yeah, I agree, regardless of how far you.

Speaker 1 25:11

you know, drift off, but you know if somebody is not grounded in that, you know they'll drop you at the first sign of trouble. You know they won't worry about what happens to you. A lot of times, some of them, people will be responsible for what happens to you Right, yeah, right. So, and you know, in their mind those same people might be trying to give you, say, good advice, like, oh, you don't need to worry about that, you're fine, you know you're going with us.

Speaker 1 25:40

You know, we've been doing this for 20 years. You know we're you know we're having fun. You know this is, you know this is this group of guys and we're you know they, just they give you plenty of positive affirmation that you know your life is you know you're worrying too much.

Speaker 4 25:57

Yeah, you're worrying too much about your life, you know, just you know.

Speaker 1 25:59

Worrying too much yeah, it's no big deal, you're worrying too much about your life, you know, just, you know, and it's that kind of advice, mm-hmm, doesn't really get you anywhere.

Speaker 6 26:05

No, Hurts you if anything yeah.

Speaker 3 26:08

That's not good advice. No.

Speaker 1 26:11

But people give it all the time. Yeah. You know, rather than break up the team, you know, break up the team. You know, you know you don't want to see a lot of people don't want to see somebody.

Speaker 5 26:22

Uh, break away, grow, yeah, grow on without them. Yeah, they don't want to see that you know.

Speaker 1 26:26

So that's, and it's very hard for somebody to hear all that coming from a group of people say they've known all their life, that they've always hung out with. It's hard to finally say you know what, I'm sorry, guys, but it's what I gotta do. You know what?

Speaker 1 26:40

I'm sorry, guys, but it's what I got to do you know, which is like what Sting did. He was basically like I remember he would tell stories, like he would go to the locker room and they'd be playing cards and drinking doing this. He'd be like I'm sorry, guys, I'm not playing cards anymore. I'm like, oh, come on. You know like yeah, just this one round.

Speaker 6 26:56

Like can't do it.

Speaker 1 26:58

And that was really hard for him, just to, because he still had to go to that work environment, right right With those same guys that he's known all his life and played cards with all his life and drank with all his life, and all of a sudden to be like more or less, well, I guess I got to go in my own little corner. Yeah, for now you know.

Speaker 1 27:20

And I'm sure everyone was talking about him like oh, he thinks he's better and he was the icon of that business. So, and still, you know people wouldn't follow him yeah I mean eventually. Yeah, there were a few guys yeah, that got it, but yeah, that's got to be hard we can hear the bird what was the bird?

Speaker 6 27:47

I heard somebody tweeting it's Roger, it wasn't me. I saw your lips pucker you can blame for everything.

Speaker 2 28:01

And Michael's not even here.

Speaker 6 28:02

Yeah, I know, it's a tough crowd. Maybe it's just this seat right here, you know, maybe, yeah, maybe I need to move.

Speaker 3 28:12

To Chicago.

Speaker 2 28:15

Well, that'd be the last place I'd go, I know you guys can't hear my cord.

Speaker 1 28:18

Can you through the microphone?

Speaker 6 28:20

I just sound. I feel like I sound really loud right now Because I got like this raincoat on.

Speaker 3 28:23

Oh no, I can hear it like rubbing up against me yeah, see, it's not me, it's not me.

Speaker 1 28:28

Well, I keep playing.

Speaker 3 28:30

Like I'm ruining the recording yeah.

Speaker 6 28:40

Scratch, scratch, scratch.

Speaker 3 28:40

I mean the little the bars look okay like on here. They're not going like they're kind of just all in the middle. Are they monkey bars?

Speaker 6 28:46

kind of like this way which way this way left to right alright, we're gonna have to.

Speaker 2 28:58

Well, is anybody? Is anybody here, like ever?

Speaker 1 29:00

been in that situation where you're.

Speaker 3 29:05

Oh yeah, I am. All the time when I go to my daughters because they drink, you know, and well, we had like a late Christmas party, so I go out. You know, linda was sick, so I go out and I only went to eat they always ask me do you want a beer? Nope, do you want a beer Nope. Do you want a mixed drink? Nope, you know. And they, you know, when I first became a Christian, it really bothered me, you know, to go and just to smell the beer or to smell the alcohol you know, did it bother you because you couldn't join them, or did it bother you because— no, I knew that I shouldn't do it right.

Speaker 3 30:00

You know, in my heart I knew that I shouldn't, I shouldn't partake in that place, so I just didn't do it, you know. And now I don't, they don't bother me, don't bother you.

Speaker 1 30:15

Don't feel like you don't belong.

Speaker 2 30:19

Now have they gotten to the spot where they quit offering it.

Speaker 3 30:22

No, no, they aren't. I mean well, basically they only one time in the evening. That's good. They all know that I don't drink. But they're being polite and I politely saying decline. I'll say no, thank you.

Speaker 2 30:48

I'm like, why'd you bring your dad's?

Speaker 5 30:50

here, your daughter was raised in church.

Speaker 3 31:01

Yeah, not all of her life, but she knows, just like my daughter. I mean but she's no—she'll drink some wine, or something like that.

Speaker 5 31:21

She's not drinking to get drunk. No, no.

Speaker 3 31:24

But where? Well, my son-in-law. He doesn't anymore, but he's got four girls and they've got four young husbands and fiancés and boyfriends. So they put her away husbands and fiancés and boyfriends, you know. So they put her away. I'd like, sometimes I'd like to have the money that they spend on her. I mean the younger ones, I mean it's just, it's unreal, but they'll learn, they'll figure it out.

Speaker 2 32:02

That's you know. I mean somebody that's not a Christian. You know, if they have a bad day and they come home from work, that's you know. Hey, I'm going to have a beer and relax instead of you know, come home and maybe get in the Word or turn on. You tell them no, turn on some gospel music or whatever Make it feel better, or just go outside and work in the garden.

Speaker 3 32:23

That's my thing. I wish it would hurry up and start getting warm.

Speaker 1 32:30

I guess that's a great point too. I'm not knocking anybody if, like you said, they come home and they have a couple glasses of red wine. I'm not saying it's because somebody does that. They're not a Christian, I'm not saying that at all. But, as you said, I think, like going out into the garden, that's a great exercise of becoming one with God. Like you can do that. I think you can do that. I think you can make that an exercise to where you can be out in the garden.

Speaker 1 32:58

You can be out there praying, you can be out there meditating, you could become one with God. I don't know if that ever works with, say, alcohol.

Speaker 6 33:06

You can go home and drink two glasses of wine and be like yeah maybe one glass of wine, yeah, yeah yeah, I was gonna say like I feel like anytime I'm out, either I don't have a garden, but like if I'm out, just even making my yard look presentable or do you know, making it look pretty outside, or going like my head, just what movement.

Speaker 6 33:31

Yeah, I'm gonna decorate my trash can with some christmas lights. Apparently my neighbor did that. I'll have to show a picture. Um, but yeah, like my brain like it, just like it. It calms, like there's nothing. I mean, my brain's always like thinking to do something or what's next, like throughout the day, like that's the only time it just shuts down, is like if I'm outside, walking or you know, picking up sticks or building a fire, like that's just like when it's calm. But, like you said, like if you're just getting drunk, like that's not going to do it. There's no way.

Speaker 3 34:08

The only thing that does is make you feel bad the next morning.

Speaker 2 34:12

And make stupid decisions while you're drunk. Well, yeah.

Speaker 3 34:20

Yeah, that's Never had good outcomes.

Speaker 1 34:22

No, I mean but do you guys find, Does anybody find themselves in a position where you're either Well, let's say, you're in a position where you're taking positive advice when you know that you need spiritual advice, or do you find yourself in a position at all where you know that you should have given spiritual advice. You just gave good advice. I mean, does anybody kind of feel, oh, I feel that all the time yeah, that's like the latter, like I feel I'll say something.

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Speaker 6 35:02

Then I'm like, oh, I could have just planted a seed somehow, but like my flesh just takes over. And then I just say, like what they want to hear not all the time what they want to hear, but like you know, like a pick-me-up, like a quick pick-me-up or something. But it's like then I'm thinking three minutes later, oh man, that was a perfect opportunity. Sometimes it's so hard to come across the right way.

Speaker 1 35:23

Yeah, because yeah, we had a truck driver coming to work and he's all stressed out about politics and this and that and going off. You know, and I really wanted to say you know, if everybody put just more energy into into jesus christ instead of you know all these politics and all these, the world would be such a better place. We'd have so many more answers to all these troubles that we have.

Speaker 6 35:46

Like putting that time and energy into Jesus instead of these politics.

Speaker 1 35:49

But when you say it it's almost like you're offending somebody. It's very hard to put it into words in a way that will make somebody go. Huh, yeah, you know yeah To make them think about way that will make somebody go. Huh yeah, you know yeah, to make them think about it and walk away and go. Well, you know, maybe he's right.

Speaker 2 36:05

I think we all fear rejection.

Speaker 6 36:07

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 36:08

You know, absolutely. We just we're kind of protecting Because we don't want to be embarrassed. Yeah.

Speaker 6 36:14

And like we're okay now yeah.

Speaker 2 36:21

No, we're okay. Now, my god, I'll talk. Yeah, no, no, any. Yeah, no, no. But I have, and I'm not saying they don't other people, but right, I have to build up some confidence.

Speaker 6 36:24

Yes, like hey, give me some boldness yeah because I, you know, I don't have it, it's gotta be you here, lord, I guess embarrassed of like the shutdown. You know what I mean like, or I'm always thinking what if that question they ask me, I don't have the answer to it yes but, you can always say, but even that, yeah, I might not know this answer, but he does, like you know, go home and get into my work, exactly and we'll discuss that again.

Speaker 1 36:48

But yeah, I'm always fearful that I might not have the right answer yeah, like you said, it may just completely shut down the conversation, like there won't be any more conversation after you say that Like a cold shoulder Sometimes.

Speaker 3 37:00

That's not a bad thing. That's true If you really want to shut somebody up.

Speaker 6 37:05

I guess.

Speaker 1 37:08

And I did kind of feel that way that day. I was like I really wish this guy would. He was just one of those guys who were like you didn't even ask. Like he opened the door of the truck, stepped down onto the floor as he started and you're like where's this coming from?

Speaker 6 37:21

Especially with politics.

Speaker 1 37:22

That's such a hard like.

Speaker 2 37:24

Yeah so it's just, I usually get my politics from Jarvee and I'm like I don't care. I just I really don't care.

Speaker 1 37:38

I heard something today like if Russia and the United States were to release every nuclear bomb that they have, it would destroy this world hundreds of times over. And you just think to yourself how could this possibly be? How could we have got this bad? Yeah, greed. And I suppose, like we think all this technology is so great, that we're so powerful because we have this, but really we're not. In my mind, I think if you need, if that's what you need, you're not powerful. Yeah, you know you're not.

Speaker 6 38:16

Yeah, if you have to rely on all this other stuff, if you're relying on nuclear power, then how powerful are we Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 38:26

Just and again. It's like that's, that's what. That's the power struggle. It's sad to think that's what's keeping everybody honest. Yeah. Is that power struggle of nuclear war? It's like that's the only thing keeping everybody honest. Is that threat?

Speaker 3 38:50

Yeah.

Speaker 1 38:52

And it's not the word, it's not Jesus Christ that's keeping everybody in a likable position, it's the fact that, well, at any time, you know, we'll just push the red button.

Speaker 5 39:06

Yeah, I was gonna say the same thing yeah, but that's the reality of our world yeah it truly is no matter.

Speaker 1 39:14

You know, I think I think overall, yes, we are a very god-fearing country I don't know what to say country. I don't know what to say about China, I don't know what to say about Russia, but I think overall, we are a fairly God-fearing country. But at the same time, I think, well, but we're in the same boat. That's where our true power lies, in how many nuclear bombs that we have, yep, and that's the balance in the world. And so it's just like, no matter how much we praise God and talk about God, let's face it, it's just like everything comes down to do we have one more nuclear bomb than you do, because they were talking about that, because there's talks of we want to put an end to building any more nuclear weapons, and of course they're saying that China is just a little bit behind, say, the United States and Russia, but if we stop, then they'll be even. So it's like we want everybody to be even and have the same amount, just in case, just in case something happens.

Speaker 1 40:14

You know, everybody's covered, and I just think that's crazy, that is a crazy existence to have and that's what, sadly, and you know, my thought on this is, yes, my life could end because, if they chose to make that decision, like you said, they could destroy this world five times over and my life would end because of that decision. Like you said, they could destroy this world five times over and my life would end because of that decision. But you know, I would have Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior.

Speaker 5 40:47

Yeah, right, and they probably don't Praise God that our security is, that they probably don't yeah.

Speaker 1 40:51

So to me, you know, it's a sad thought that that's the power struggle in the world, that's how we determine who's who, but at the end of the day it's not going to matter to me. Yeah, I may lose my life on Earth, but after that I've got the best button.

Speaker 2 41:17

Yeah, exactly the best possible outcome if that were to happen, button.

Speaker 5 41:21

Yeah, Exactly the best possible outcome you know if that were to happen, right, yeah, yeah, for us to die is to gain.

Speaker 1 41:25

Yep, yeah, yep. So you know, it's just.

Speaker 2 41:30

Is that you, Roger?

Speaker 3 41:32

Yeah, I have a phone. I have no words to add.

Speaker 5 41:38

Yeah, today, you know what's up but the batteries.

Speaker 1 41:41

Roger, were you um, but the battery's about dead because it was in the 50s right that that was like the height of the fear, of yeah, yeah, yeah, the bomb, yeah all, the, all, all the fallout shelters.

Speaker 3 41:57

No, I was just born then, okay, but I well, it was, I would say, up to 60. But I can remember you know ads for fallout shelters and you know, get this fallout shelter. And you know you have all your supplies and it was all bogus because it was not going to help you any.

Overcoming Fear of Sharing Faith

Speaker 1 42:26

Yeah, well, and that's another niche of the self-help world is doomsday preppers, doomsday preppers, yep, these people that are. Just they're totally, you know, focused on you know, if something happens, you know I'm going to have my bunker, I'm going to have everything I need to survive. Yeah, for about two months yeah. But I think, okay, you've got all those things, but do you have Jesus Christ? Right?

Speaker 6 42:53

You know like they're so consumed with this idea of my biggest thing is the believers that are also tuesday preppers. Wait a minute, what?

Speaker 2 43:01

I can remember when I don't know. It's like driver, do you think I should just stock up on a little bit of extra groceries? And he's like really, if nobody else has food, do you want to be the one that has?

Speaker 6 43:11

right, it'd be like the walking dead or something like they're like oh okay, you changed my mind. It's gonna be like those cats that know to go to your house for food. It's going to be people and then they're going to kill you.

Speaker 3 43:22

Yeah because everybody that comes to the house they say well, we're coming to your house, something happens. We have a room and it's got canned goods in it. We've got canned not canned soup, but canned soup, big yeah soup but canned.

Speaker 5 43:35

Big yes.

Speaker 2 43:36

Yeah.

Speaker 3 43:37

And you know, we got vegetables and we've got fruit, and we've got jelly and butter.

Speaker 2 43:47

No Apple butter. Oh, we got apple butter. Is that out of?

Speaker 3 43:51

butter. No, oh, no, no. We there's probably in the big freezer. There's probably there might be only five pounds in there.

Speaker 2 44:06

That is low for a little bit.

Speaker 3 44:07

But then there's probably another five pounds in the freezer in the kitchen. So yeah, we've got 10 pounds, it's been a little while yet, but if we get down below 10, it's a crisis. We've got to go at least two pounds. But she hasn't saw the flyer yet for the orchard. And you know, when they have butter on sale we go get 110 pounds.

Speaker 2 44:38

It doesn't get strong in the freezer no, or you just use that much of it no.

Speaker 3 44:45

Well, when she bought the 110 pounds, I said what in the world are you going to do with all this money? So we sold some of it for just the price of what you know what it was. I mean it was a good price, but yeah. But I mean it was a good price, but yeah, yeah, we sold. I think we sold. Let's see 30, 40. We probably sold 50 pounds.

Speaker 2 45:09

What was she thinking, or was she not, when she saw?

Speaker 3 45:11

it. Well she thought there was only 12 in a case. She got three cases so I don't know, but it ended up like 110 pounds.

Speaker 5 45:28

But, it was good, it was a sale. Well, absolutely Can't pass up a good sale, dave Ramsey says otherwise Well, but it's a consumable.

Speaker 3 45:45

Like my grandmother used to say, you might as well get it because it's not going to eat anything Like any kind of extra canned goods or extra sugar or extra flour. My grandmother would say. You know, my grandmother would say you might as well just go ahead and get it because it's not going to eat anything and you're going to use it.

Speaker 2 46:09

I do try to keep a little extra things yeah.

Speaker 3 46:17

Not like having a full extra house. We try and keep at least 20 pounds of flour and I think we got like maybe 10 pounds of sugar. I keep telling her you need salt and pepper, so we've probably got I don't't know six or seven pounds of salt. You know three things of pepper where's this address at where's this address at?

Speaker 3 46:54

I need to know, just in case so then we got two freezers full of meat, Actually three freezers. What was I going to say? See, that's what happens when you get old you lose your strength. I can't remember right now. What was I talking about?

Speaker 6 47:14

Flour, sugar, salt. Pepper. Oh, I know.

Speaker 3 47:18

We went to Sam's Club, okay.

Speaker 6 47:22

Do you like Sam's Club? Do you like it yourself? On some things, yeah, okay.

Speaker 3 47:27

So I knew there wasn't very much ketchup in the refrigerator. I said well, why don't we just take and get some ketchup? I said we need some ketchup, so we get three of the big things of ketchup. I said we need some ketchup, so we get three of the big things of ketchup and we have a cupboard in my room that has basically dried goods in it. I went to put the ketchup away and there's two bottles of ketchup in there.

Speaker 5 47:52

Already in there.

Speaker 3 47:55

I said well, we don't have to buy ketchup for a while.

Speaker 2 47:58

That's kind of like me and mustard. We went to Sam's Pub so we bought the ketchup and we bought the mustard, went to go put it on the shelf and there was, I don't know, some of them, amazon, quick deals or whatever. They had French mustard real cheap, I think like 99 cents. So I ordered like six of them.

Speaker 6 48:14

Forgot about it and I'm like, oh, I did not need mustard yep, forgot about it and I'm like, oh, I did not need mustard. When chase and I first got together, he he'd always buy salsa, like salsa and like cheese and jars, like he's like. I'm like we already had some, though from a few weeks ago when we went grocery shopping. He's like, but for taco night? I'm like, I understand, but taco night we don't use a full jar every time. Well, yeah, but that's a snack.

Speaker 3 48:41

Yeah, it is Chips and cheese. Oh, yeah, it is. You know you got to have a snack.

Speaker 6 48:46

Yeah, there was just like one point, I think we had four extra, and then there was one in the fridge that was already open. Yeah, like, oh man.

Speaker 3 48:59

Oh, that's fun, you know. Yeah, life is a trip, yeah.

Speaker 6 49:03

I'll tell you what though.

Speaker 3 49:04

Okay, you tell us I'm going to Okay. So couponing.

Speaker 6 49:07

you know and I don't even really cut down the coupons anymore, I'll still look out the paper coupons, but most of the time I just go to CVS and they have like clippable ones like in the app.

Speaker 1 49:17

Anybody doing the. You know what did they call it? They collect coupons. What's the name for it?

Speaker 6 49:28

uh, coupon collector for a while put them in, yeah I know what you're talking about, like in binders.

Speaker 1 49:33

Yeah, yeah, it's not a thing anymore. People are over that one yeah, there really is almost one.

Speaker 2 49:38

Yeah, there was almost a full-time job.

Speaker 6 49:40

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 49:42

What stores? Would back them. What ones wouldn't? What do they call that?

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Speaker 6 49:48

There is actually a movie like a newer movie. It's almost like a comedy, but it was based on a true story of someone doing that and they got into a legal trouble. I and it like they started like, like they got into like a legal trouble, I mean because they started telling people, hey, and then they would get like commission you know giving them good advice yeah, yeah. They would basically have other people go shop for them and then they would get a percentage back.

Speaker 2 50:14

You know, craziness there used to be a woman in like philly that had a store that penny penny, uh-huh.

Speaker 6 50:21

Yes, yeah, penny the penny pincher, maybe yeah yeah, she disappeared.

Speaker 6 50:26

I don't, I mean she didn't appear but I mean that business kind of did yeah no, but what I was saying was like I can almost coupon anything for, like I almost never pay full price for anything anymore, but the one thing that you can't, it's like personal hygiene products, like like pads and tampons. You can get toilet paper, you can get paper towels, you can get shampoo, you can get conditioner, you can get makeup, but the stuff you absolutely need, that your body tells you you need, and you can't get it couponed.

Speaker 6 50:58

I'm like oh, I really don't care well, I know I didn't figure you would care, roger, hey I don't care anymore you know, I can't wait till that day comes I know, but it like irks me. The other day I had to pay full price for something I'm like I don't think I have paid full price for besides groceries you know what I mean. But like I'm always trying to get a deal, you can't get a deal on anything anymore with those.

Speaker 2 51:27

I'm like I had a girlfriend that she I mean, she was seriously cute. Yeah, she couldn't sleep. She go clear to canton, to walgreens. It was open 24 hours a day to get their toilet paper. She had three bathrooms in her house and the one was nothing but stacked with. The inside of the shower was stacked with toilet toilet paper. Yep, I'm like this is ridiculous sherry.

Speaker 6 51:53

It's funny because I was just telling chase the other night. I'm like, why don't we have a walgreens around here? I said they always have good, but it's always like you have to pick it up in store and the closest one is Canton. I'm like, well, it's not going to be a good deal if I have to drive clear to Canton for it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 52:12

Yeah, we just don't go to Sam's Club. You know, we have to be All the time. We have to be there. We have to be in canton for a reason yeah, yeah, yeah, go to the doctors or whatever

Speaker 1 52:23

yeah you know they're way too much I've got to the point where I hate it.

Speaker 2 52:28

We have more often just because some things are so much cheaper up there.

Speaker 1 52:34

That they are they are that we use but I just hate loading it up, getting it home, unloading it again so anyone way costco, anyone do costco.

Speaker 2 52:45

Yeah, we've done yeah, I like costco we just have to keep it a family secret that we're going, otherwise everybody gives you a list. Yeah, yes, yeah, yeah I, I don't like.

Speaker 3 52:56

I I mean I like going there, but I don't like going there because every time we go there we spend way too much money and I hate that parking lot.

Speaker 1 53:07

It doesn't matter, I always see a good spot up ahead and someone always whips in there and takes it from me, and then it's always so windy up there and then you gotta park, yeah it's always so windy, it's just like. I can't handle it. I always make sure I bring a coat and a hat every time we go. It can be calm all over the rest of Canton as soon as you pull into Sam's. Club, it's just getting hit from all directions.

Speaker 3 53:36

It's all that hot air for them women, that's in there.

Speaker 2 53:40

I think Jarvee, when we go he sees how far away he can park. Just let me off at the door.

Speaker 6 53:46

Chase does that all the time with his truck. He's like I'm just so used to it because of my van. I'm like, okay, well, we're not in your van Park somewhere closer?

Speaker 2 54:00

I said why are you parking? Well, I don't want somebody hitting my truck. He's like I don't want to park with somebody like you. They don't care, it's tight there.

Speaker 1 54:05

I don't give him that. It's tight, like I don't like taking our truck there because I can't get most of those spots. Yeah, it's tight, yeah, and I hate going down that first aisle and, hello, they got 10 salesmen lined up there. Oh yeah, so for now I'm like we start at the back and work our way forward because I do not want to go down the first aisle anymore because you, just you get attacked by these people.

Speaker 6 54:33

I mean, they're like every three feet vultures yeah, they have people at Walmart doing that every now and then they do.

Speaker 1 54:40

They do. They just had a guy up front, I think two guys up front. I don't know if they were trying to sell family pictures or whatever it was.

Speaker 5 54:48

It used to be Olin.

Speaker 2 54:49

That was all the time when my kids were little my boys at Olin Mills was always there when you had.

Speaker 1 54:54

So yeah, they're still doing it, and that's a whole other thing. It's like okay, now I don't want to be rude to these people. Right, yeah, I don't want to be a good Christian.

Speaker 6 55:05

I don't want to ignore them.

Speaker 1 55:08

You don't want to ignore them, so what do you do?

Speaker 6 55:09

I'm going to show.

Speaker 3 55:10

Jesus, look at something else.

Speaker 1 55:12

Yeah, I point I point and be like. Look at that I point and be like, like.

Speaker 6 55:17

I'm looking like yeah, yeah, that's one advantage of being a legacy member you can act like you're like why? Why, would you say, I can't hear you.

Speaker 1 55:31

We were here last week we got another kid, got me. We're the only two guys.

Speaker 3 55:36

I gave it the office, yeah.

Speaker 1 55:40

Yeah, try anything Get past gave it the office. Yeah, you try anything Get past those people.

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Speaker 2 55:43

Yeah, Sandsville will definitely challenge you.

Speaker 1 55:46

Oh my gosh, I mean like I said, they're every three feet in that first aisle. You can't get away from them.

Speaker 2 55:51

Well, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 1 55:52

And I'm convinced they're going to catch on to me and they're going to start now.

Speaker 2 56:00

They're going to be in the back. Yeah, they're going to be in the back. Yeah, Well, the parking lot looks like it's not that full when you get in there and you start. Oh, it's not bad. And before you know it, it's like I can't even turn my car on. Where did these people? Come from yeah.

Speaker 3 56:10

And I hate them people that Two carts, two different people and two different people and they're standing and talking.

Speaker 1 56:19

Please. Or you've got the guy shopping who's on the phone with his wife and she's telling him everything.

Speaker 3 56:26

And he says, where's that at? That would be me.

Speaker 6 56:31

That's at any store. That would be me.

Speaker 1 56:35

Gotta love that too.

Speaker 3 56:37

But you go to Walmart. We used to shop our old. We used to go every Sunday after church We'd go shopping. You kind of knew where stuff was at. Now you go down there today and you go tomorrow and everything is moved Every month.

Speaker 5 56:59

It's rearranged Drives me crazy my home health patients who had breathing problems would say you can't even go shopping because I get too short a breath to walk to the store, because they rearrange all the time and I don't know where anything is so, then you're walking around trying to find everything.

Speaker 6 57:16

You know why they do that.

Speaker 3 57:18

Because you see things you normally don't see, so you have to walk around and you see things and spend more time and you buy more.

Speaker 1 57:26

That's what I was going to tell you. I've been in retail and used to reset my store and other stores. All the time I've been part of reset, they're like, yeah, this is what influences people to buy more stuff yeah. You know, like all of a sudden they're putting cereal in the first aisle. It's going to make people buy more cereal. Sometimes I'm like what? Yeah. You know, some of it just doesn't make any sense. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 57:47

But some of it does you know? Yeah, yeah, you start making people it does to the retailer.

Speaker 1 58:03

Because they think this, they'll put five more items in their cart. We get everybody to put five more items in their cart yeah, twenty dollars sales will be up.

Speaker 6 58:11

Yeah, sales will be up or more were we talking about aldi's here the other last week, week before. No they, they rearranged which. I don't go there a ton, but I went there today and I was like ah crap I actually like.

Speaker 2 58:25

I mean, and now that I'm getting used, to the layout, the aisles seem wider they do yeah I don't know how, but they do they really do.

Speaker 6 58:33

Yeah, because I noticed the same thing. Like I normally don't really take a cart, because normally I don't grab a ton there, like I'll just get a little, you know basket. But I had Cooper today so I had a cart, but I was like there's a lot of room well, do you remember during COVID, they had traffic signals.

Speaker 1 58:54

Yes, they were like one way, you go this way, you go that way. I think it should still be that way.

Speaker 6 59:00

Yeah.

Speaker 1 59:00

Yeah. I think they still have this traffic yeah. Actually, that was one thing from COVID I liked, I was like oh yeah. Now you can actually get down the aisle.

Speaker 6 59:08

I do feel like Save-A-Lot kind of has that layout Like you almost should do that little snake thing. You know what I mean.

Speaker 1 59:14

You mean? Yeah. Yeah, so yeah, that was cool. See, we're covering retail today, yeah.

Speaker 3 59:24

Yeah, well, you know we hit all kinds of subjects.

Speaker 2 59:27

We did. We hit the All the important things, we hit the bulletins. You know, on the Covered it without cover.

Speaker 1 59:34

Yeah, that's us I always do.

Speaker 6 59:37

Oh, is that it.

Speaker 2 59:39

It's the. What is it Hard to show? Sometimes it's hard to show Jesus when you're shopping.

Speaker 1 59:45

Oh yeah. I like to give people a lot of good advice when I'm shopping.

Speaker 2 59:51

No, it's not necessarily spiritual advice, is it?

Speaker 6 59:56

Especially when you've got a child with you and you're like what are you doing? I gotta go, I gotta go, let's go. Do you not hear this child crying? Right now Go.

Speaker 3 1:00:07

Maybe there's some old people. They can't hear.

Speaker 2 1:00:10

Or everybody wants to touch him. Oh, he's so cute.

Speaker 6 1:00:13

Like yeah, until he bites you.

Speaker 1 1:00:17

I always have that luck of whatever it is that I need, somebody will be standing.

Speaker 6 1:00:23

Oh, for sure.

Speaker 1 1:00:25

And they're looking at pickles Like hmm, Looking at pickles. Do I get spears? Do I get Chips?

Speaker 2 1:00:34

Just pick and go. It's kind of like when I go through a drive-thru and somebody's up there forever. I'm like they haven't changed the menu, Maybe the prices, but the menu has not changed. How many times have you come here? You know what you want.

Speaker 1 1:00:47

And I'm just not a person that can go. Will you excuse me? I just need to reach down there.

Speaker 6 1:00:52

Oh see, I am.

Speaker 1 1:00:54

I do now. Yeah, I do too.

Speaker 6 1:01:00

Excuse me? Yeah, I do too. Excuse me, I'm just gonna reach right there. Yep, but chase, chase, isn't? He's like he'll just patiently wait and then he'll get in the car like these people I'm like why didn't you just say excuse me?

Speaker 1 1:01:06

sometimes in your mind you're thinking it ain't gonna last that long, right, right, yes I was thinking.

Speaker 6 1:01:13

I was actually thinking that today, like someone was behind me in the aisle and I was just taking my good old time, like the oldie finds like that aisle, and I'm like I wonder if she's like acting like she's looking at something to kind of get me to move. But I'm like, oh no, because I do that sometimes with like if I'm behind someone I'll act like I'm looking, but then I'm like come on, keep going, it's more polite to act yes, like you're looking for.

Speaker 2 1:01:40

Didn't say excuse me yeah, I need my fifth bottle of ketchup yeah well, we got enough ketchup and mustard for the boating for all summer long and all winter.

Speaker 3 1:02:00

You got enough for the whole line, don't?

Speaker 1 1:02:02

you Summertime around Memorial Day at Sam's Club they'll have the ketchup mustard relish.

Speaker 3 1:02:07

Yes, oh yeah.

Speaker 2 1:02:09

They still have that. I don't like sweet relish though.

Speaker 6 1:02:12

I don't either I like dill relish. Yeah.

Speaker 2 1:02:16

And you don't see that very often.

Speaker 1 1:02:19

That used to be in a little jar, yeah.

Speaker 3 1:02:21

My wife makes some awesome. I mean, I could just eat it out of the jar. Green pepper relish. It's good.

Speaker 2 1:02:33

Well, this one makes really really good hot mustard too.

Speaker 3 1:02:36

Oh I love it. There you go. Give her about eight jars of that mustard. I can Uh-huh yeah.

Speaker 1 1:02:43

Yeah, do some bartering, yeah.

Speaker 2 1:02:46

I'll provide the mustard, you provide the peppers. I need more of the gardens. It's between who in the world would think deer and genetan.

Speaker 3 1:03:01

Oh yeah, right, oh oh yeah, I've seen them right downtown. I've seen them right downtown barnhill yeah, that's what I was.

Speaker 6 1:03:06

Yeah, my, uh, my stepmom does the mail like by buckeye school and one of those allotments she was like there were like three deer right there, yeah. And actually she said my sister she lives right off of i-70, like almost by the pickerington exit, there's a ton of shopping plazas there and she lives in a cul-de-sac like 0.2 miles away had two deer right there. What's going?

Speaker 3 1:03:32

on. It's like linda's friend she lives in in uh, actually it's in philly yeah in the boulevard. Uh-huh, she's got a picture of two big bucks right in her, in her yard yeah it's crazy right downtown, I mean it's busy road, yeah, oh yeah, the boulevard but, yeah, it's crazy of course I got a couple out of the house too, so Well, yeah, but that's understandable, You're a little out there.

Speaker 6 1:04:05

Yeah, I'm out there, all right.

Speaker 3 1:04:11

I kind of live far away too.

Speaker 6 1:04:13

Yeah, yeah, I'm actually surprised that like that road turns into into gravel, but I'm surprised yours isn't gravel right there no right in front of the house.

Speaker 3 1:04:25

Well, it's all chipped and sealed now is it yeah, okay see, when we first moved out there from the church, yeah, where it was chipped and sealed. Yeah, yeah, that used to.

Speaker 6 1:04:34

That was dirt oh yeah, the Pony Express came out there.

Speaker 1 1:04:44

Guys, have you noticed that Michael has not said a word? Yeah, is he okay over there? I think he's sleeping I don't think we mentioned that he wasn't here. I don't think we did, we just rolled right along.

Speaker 6 1:04:58

I wonder how long it took to notice.

Speaker 3 1:05:01

Oh wait, no, did we, we did, we did we said that they, yeah, but you didn't have the button push.

Speaker 1 1:05:06

Yeah, did you Were we live then yeah, no.

Speaker 3 1:05:11

Oh well, you just had the button push when we started talking about the cats.

Speaker 5 1:05:14

Enjoying some family time, that's right.

Speaker 3 1:05:16

Yeah. Yep.

Speaker 2 1:05:18

The cats that are all coming to Roger's house and Margie's I'm going to have drop off.

Speaker 1 1:05:22

No, no, Drop off. My dogs don't like cats. We have reached capacity. I'm going to get one of those little like you know, like the hotel, max capacity.

Speaker 3 1:05:32

Tiny rooms have like maximum capacity 11 cats.

Speaker 6 1:05:34

Yes, 11 cats.

Speaker 3 1:05:38

Yes, no cat vacancy, that's right.

Speaker 2 1:05:39

No vacancy here you know what, margie, when these kittens come, can I just bring them to you and you can tame them down, and then we can find them home.

Speaker 1 1:05:47

That doesn't work. She doesn't give them away.

Speaker 5 1:05:50

Now she's attached.

Speaker 1 1:05:52

It takes like 15 minutes and she's attached Because if they're a baby, oh yeah, that's it. It's just a baby, you have to make them those barn cats, I know.

Speaker 2 1:06:04

There's the thought of them not being fed.

Speaker 6 1:06:07

They'll be fed. They'll eat.

Speaker 2 1:06:09

Yeah, they'll eat. It won't be warmed up.

Speaker 3 1:06:13

Well, yeah, it'll be, it's fresh, it'll be warm. Mice are warm-blooded. I just see her in the.

Speaker 1 1:06:21

Sheba commercial where they ding the little cup.

Speaker 3 1:06:26

There comes a whole line up.

Speaker 6 1:06:29

There's a funny story about my grandma. The crystal thing.

Speaker 6 1:06:32

Yeah, she still has this cat and she didn't have this cat for, like, I don't know, I think maybe the first couple of years, like she's. She's had Max for probably five years by now. This is probably within the first year and a half and she was like either. No, she was sleeping, it was in the middle of the night and she feels, she feels something on her chest, and she wakes up there's, there's a dead mouse on her chest. And she wakes up, there's a dead mouse on her chest. Oh, he brought her a nice present. Look, mommy, look what I did Good job.

Speaker 3 1:07:06

She's like ah, I have to take moles out back outside. Oh yeah. My dog. They'll catch a mole.

Speaker 5 1:07:15

My dog has tried to bring things inside, but One of our outside cats.

Speaker 1 1:07:20

It got a bat. I don't know how it did it, but it brought a bat up to the porch.

Speaker 3 1:07:27

Was it dead? Yes, Decapitated.

Speaker 5 1:07:31

Yeah, my brother's dog brought in a rabbit, put it on their bed.

Speaker 3 1:07:36

Was it an Aussie Newsome cat?

Speaker 1 1:07:37

Yeah, my goodness, that's a tough cat. You're going to change his name to Ozzie.

Speaker 2 1:07:50

Yeah, those poor cats. I'm just worried about them, poor cats.

Speaker 1 1:07:57

Let nature take its course, it'll be all right. And right now, now margie's going. I've said that to her before. Margie, why can't you just let nature? Take its course that's about the worst thing I could say to her. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, like god's will be done god's's will not. Margie's. I think we've proven we're good people. Let the cats go. We've done our share.

Speaker 2 1:08:28

Mine all started with I was feeding that tomcat. And then he brought his woman home. At least he gave her the house, at least on the bench. At least he gave her the house.

Speaker 3 1:08:42

He lives down the street with his girlfriend. He's like you stay here tonight.

Speaker 2 1:08:48

I'm going down the house, down the road for a couple days A week Shows back up. He's all beat up and I'm out there trying to put Antibiotic sap on a bloody ear. Alright, whose turn is it to pray there trying to put antibiotic sap on a?

Speaker 6 1:09:00

bloody ear Alright whose turn.

Speaker 2 1:09:03

Is it to pray? I think it's Nick's.

Speaker 6 1:09:05

No, dawn, it was you, dawn, beth, it's you, it's you, okay, thanks.

Speaker 2 1:09:18

Are we ready?

Speaker 6 1:09:18

ready, I thought oh, I have to hit the button. That'd be nice.

Speaker 2 1:09:24

Yeah, let's hit the button, this one oh my god, we can do it without music what there wait?

Speaker 6 1:09:35

oh, that's. That's the Marky Minute. Get me out of here, lord. Oh, that's the Marky Minute. Get me out of here, lord. Okay, it's not working.

Speaker 2 1:09:45

Dear Heavenly Father, we just thank you for this opportunity to come and share stories and just have fun. And, dear Father God, we just pray that you give us, each and every one of us, boldness so when we're put in that position, that, instead of offering just good advice, that we actually offer spiritual advice. And we ask that you just get us home safely tonight, dear Father God, and that you just put a hedge of protection around us as we travel. In Jesus' name, we pray Amen. Amen.