Come As You Are

Ever felt like you need to “get your life together” before you can approach God? We’ve been there. We start light—snow days, sleep struggles, and the comfort of old radio voices—then head straight into the heart of it: why so many people stall out spiritually because they don’t feel good enough, smart enough, or clean enough to belong. We share real stories of showing up to church in work gear, hats, and messy moods, and why a culture of belonging beats a culture of performance every time.

From there, we dig into honest questions about faith and reason. What if you’re wrestling with the virgin birth, the Big Bang, or the existence of God at all? We talk through design, history, and testimonies, and we land where transformation always lands: the deepest evidence is the change you see in yourself when you start to seek. The Bible is a living word; the same passage can cut a new path in your life ten years from now. That’s how faith matures—through daily trust, not perfect answers.

We also tackle the habit of Googling our fears. Instead of spiraling through worst-case scenarios, we practice pausing for prayer, asking for peace and wisdom, and letting Scripture steady our steps. Come as you are doesn’t mean stay as you are; growth follows relationship. The disciples weren’t polished—they were called. So are you. Take one step: open the Word, ask your question, and let God meet you where you actually are.

If this conversation encouraged you, follow the show, share it with a friend who’s on the fence, and leave a quick review to help others find it. What honest question are you bringing to God this week?

Chapters

• 0:00 Cold Opens, Snow, And Nostalgia
• 9:07 Sleep, Schedules, And Showing Up Tired
• 15:07 Setting The Theme: Come As You Are
• 20:47 Dress Codes, Comfort, And Church Culture
• 32:07 Not Good Enough For God? Myth Busted
• 43:37 Questions, Doubt, And Building Faith
• 56:07 Big Bang, Design, And Evidence

Transcript

Cold Opens, Snow, And Nostalgia

SPEAKER_04 1:14

Red light's on. That means we're on. Red light, green light. And the green light's not blinking.

SPEAKER_00 1:21

It's not.

SPEAKER_04 1:22

You haven't touched it yet.

SPEAKER_00 1:23

Yeah. About that.

SPEAKER_04 1:27

Yeah. Well, it'll be all right. Hey, you're still in the learning stage.

SPEAKER_00 1:32

I shouldn't be.

SPEAKER_04 1:35

I would be. I know how to turn it on. That's about it.

SPEAKER_00 1:38

I was. Have you guys watched the middle before? It's um it's like a comedy. Like I'm trying to think who's in it. The wife off of Everybody Loves Raymond. So it's her as the wife, and then she's got this real tall guy as a, I don't know, you know, a husband, and then they have three kids, but she she's got like these two great aunts that she has to go and just check up on every couple days. And the one's kind of getting dementia, but she's the one passed away, I think, but the one is now getting dementia, and she's like, oh man, you know, what do we do? She's got this phone and these numbers, it's like one through nine, you know, and but these numbers are so big. I mean, it's probably like a post-it note size, and she's got their pictures, like, okay, if you need me, I'm this, you know, this little button right here. And if you need, you just hit my you hit my face and it'll call me. And she's telling her, and so she's like tapping her forehead, like, why aren't you answering? She's like, No, I didn't mean she's like, never mind, I'll see you next week. It's funny, it's it's uh just something to watch.

SPEAKER_04 2:48

Yeah, but doesn't have any murder in it. No, no, no. That's good.

SPEAKER_00 2:53

Not not yet. No, no, not yet. Nick, the we're doing come as you are. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 3:02

I don't know. You didn't text me. Roger.

SPEAKER_00 3:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 3:09

You're in the groove text, Roger.

SPEAKER_00 3:11

We're gonna have to like come on now.

SPEAKER_04 3:13

Come on now. I probably saw it and just skimmed over.

SPEAKER_00 3:17

He probably, well, let's put it this way. He goes, Nick's sick? I'm like, no, Nick's on his way. He's like, oh, Beth's sick. Yeah. So he doesn't have your phone numbers. He doesn't have your phone numbers in there. I need your face on there. Yeah, so Beth is not with us today because she's sick. So I'll have to be praying for her.

SPEAKER_06 3:40

Also, that time of year. Here it comes. Yeah, yeah. Trying to avoid it.

SPEAKER_04 3:48

What the snow?

SPEAKER_06 3:49

Well, yeah, snow, sickness.

SPEAKER_00 3:53

Everything until April or May.

SPEAKER_06 3:55

Yep. Six months of winter.

SPEAKER_00 3:57

Well, I mean, why why do we live here? Seriously.

SPEAKER_06 4:01

Like for those times when she treats us nice.

unknown 4:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 4:04

Like a bad relationship. For those times when he treats us nice.

SPEAKER_00 4:07

Yeah, and like what times? Like our sports aren't the best, you know. Like if you're a sports fan, like we we're not by, you know, uh an ocean. We do have the Great Lakes that it could be nice, but it's two hours away from us minimum. Like, why do we live here?

SPEAKER_04 4:22

Well, yeah, but why do people go 18 hours to Florida or to North Carolina to go to the beach?

SPEAKER_00 4:28

Yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_06 4:30

I don't think I'd want to live in Florida.

SPEAKER_00 4:32

No, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_06 4:33

I do like the seasons.

unknown 4:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 4:35

Just the seasons have gotten well. It's like we've got almost a long summer, long winter. Yeah, yes.

SPEAKER_00 4:43

It's like a day and going tomorrow. Yeah, like a week, if that. Like yeah, I I like all of the seasons.

SPEAKER_06 4:51

Like this this summer I thought was pretty hot overall. Like it stayed hot for a long time and it quit raining. Dry. And now since fall got here, it's like all it's done is rain. And it's been cold and damp and it's already snowed. We had our first snowfall, what? Mun Monday? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:10

Yeah, Monday.

SPEAKER_04 5:12

So yeah. My my my daughter-in-law and grandson, they were they were upset.

unknown 5:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 5:17

Because they like the snow.

SPEAKER_00 5:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 5:20

My son says, they're nuts.

SPEAKER_06 5:23

I like if I'm indoors.

SPEAKER_00 5:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 5:26

I love it from the inside looking out.

SPEAKER_00 5:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 5:29

Oh, when when I love it. When I lived in town, when it snowed a lot, I'd just bundle up and just take a walk the street because it was nice and quiet.

SPEAKER_00 5:36

You know what my favorite part? The snow at night under lights. Like it just the the the street lights when they're on and the snow's glistening, like glistening down. It's so pretty. And yeah, just walking like there's nobody on the street, you know.

SPEAKER_03 5:52

Everybody, oh I don't want to drive. I'm gonna slide.

SPEAKER_00 5:56

It gives me like a like a childhood memory because I had a neighbor like two blocks down, two and a half. And so say we knew there was a snow day by like 6 30 or 7. Like we were all hanging out on our side street, just like walking from house to house or hanging out by the junior high, just like sledding with the sleds on the road. Like when it was it was fun. So grandma, we weren't in the road. No, we weren't in the we weren't in the road.

SPEAKER_04 6:24

She's got her fingers crossed, grandma.

SPEAKER_00 6:26

Whoops. Right. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 6:32

Yeah, life, life was great when you were a kid. Yeah. Really, it was. It was. I mean, you know, if you had, you know, no, no, no responsibility.

SPEAKER_00 6:42

Uh-huh. And then you were you were always like, can't wait to grow up. You're like, no.

SPEAKER_04 6:45

Yeah, no, I know I wish I was a kid.

unknown 6:48

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:48

I mean, you know, it just I wish I had people to tell me you have to do this and you have to do that, like at certain times.

SPEAKER_06 6:54

I wish somebody would put me to bed.

unknown 6:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 6:56

You know. Like, it's your bedtime, get up there. Yes.

unknown 7:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 7:02

Yeah. Because now it's like you can't get to bed no matter what you do. I'm going to bed at eight. Nope. Nope. It's nine. Nope. It's ten. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:11

My my max is ten. That's it. That's that's the cutoff point.

SPEAKER_00 7:16

No. That's my minimum. Not good. And I'm never like a night night owl. Like I'm not in the middle of the morning, you know, 1 a.m., 2 a.m. falling asleep. But seems like 11 15 is when my your clock turns off. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 7:34

Like my head Your pie your power runs out.

SPEAKER_00 7:36

Yep. Like I'll just like if it's 10 o'clock and I'm in bed, that's a good night for me. But most of the time it's not till 10 40, 10 45. But I also wake up later than Nick, you know, probably than you, Roger.

SPEAKER_04 7:50

Yeah. No, not I used to. I used to be at 4 o'clock, but now I now I'm lucky to get up at 6 30.

SPEAKER_05 7:57

Yeah.

unknown 7:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 7:58

Yeah, that alarm goes off at 4 30. Yeah. So even if I get to bed at, you know, if I get to bed at 9 30, that's seven hours. And that's even hard to do to get to bed at 9 30.

SPEAKER_02 8:11

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 8:12

Then the later it is, the less sleepy it is. Yes.

SPEAKER_00 8:15

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 8:15

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 8:16

And you start thinking about it. Yeah. And then you can't go to sleep all men and then you just have to come as you are.

SPEAKER_06 8:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 8:22

Exactly. Tired and disgruntled. Uh-huh.

Sleep, Schedules, And Showing Up Tired

SPEAKER_00 8:29

Yeah. Ready or not, here I come. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 8:34

Yep. So just for a disclaimer, we are not discussing the Nirvana song. For any of those who may wonder.

SPEAKER_00 8:44

Did you know there's a Christian song? Crowder's got a Christian song.

SPEAKER_06 8:48

Called Come As You Are? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 8:50

I don't know it.

SPEAKER_06 8:52

I don't either.

SPEAKER_04 8:53

I think I've heard it once, but I don't really wonder if Michael likes it.

SPEAKER_00 8:57

Michael, do you like it? Let us know in the comments below. Let us know if you even listen to us anymore.

SPEAKER_04 9:03

He don't like Crowder.

SPEAKER_00 9:04

Yeah, I know. The one in the morning. It was like they were on my radio and I uh I knew he didn't like them. And I sent a video and said, Happy Friday. And said, Here's some Crowder for you. And he like puked my message. Like you can react to messages, Roger. Like you can either like it, dislike it, laugh. Pretty much anything. Like anything. And he puked at mine.

SPEAKER_04 9:32

He like well evidently he didn't like it.

SPEAKER_00 9:35

Yeah. Apparently not.

SPEAKER_04 9:38

So you know, you you talk as cum as you are, you know, you can come to church as you are. Like when I when I was working for Denison Bridge. Well, uh yeah, I was working for this construction company. And in the wintertime, like I would come to church I would come to Wednesday night services and I would have my coveralls on and they would smell like diesel fuel. And you know, you're still welcome. You're still welcome. Don't make any difference. Don't make any difference what you're looking like or what you've got on. Yes, yes. That's like we got we've got a young couple that just started coming, you know. And uh the husband he's keeps complaining about his about his shoes. He says they're not he says they're not shirt church boots. Uh-huh. And I said, Don't make any difference, man. You know, you can come in your socks or no shoes at all.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

Especially here. Yeah. We don't care.

SPEAKER_04 10:34

I mean it's yeah. It's no nobody judges you for what you've got on or the way you look.

SPEAKER_00 10:39

Nope.

SPEAKER_04 10:40

You know.

SPEAKER_00 10:40

I I mean I don't and I feel like all the men's boots, like they're not comfortable, like the nicer, the church boots, you know what I mean? Like that you're imagining right now. Like, why would you want to wear those anyway? They're not gonna be comfortable, you know? I see what he's saying. Oh, yeah, but yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:57

Yeah, that's true, because my my my church boots by the time I get home I can't really walk.

SPEAKER_00 11:01

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 11:04

Well, my tennis usually is the same way, so it don't make any difference what I wear.

unknown 11:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 11:09

I can't go on my bare feet or just socks.

SPEAKER_00 11:13

No.

SPEAKER_04 11:14

So I just suffer. No, I don't I don't suffer.

SPEAKER_00 11:21

No, that's a good point though, like coming as you are, because it I feel like we are very welcome with that, like at this church. And I feel like m a lot of churches need to be like that. Like, you know, Chase still wears a hat, you know, and I mean Yeah, he's not the only one. No, no, you know, and and I think that's another one, like that like a lot of people that let's just say they haven't been to church in 15, 10 years, you know, like they don't realize that how much has changed. Yeah, like yeah, like the church is changing with the world, like to accommodate somewhat, right? But also it's not so formal. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 12:03

Yeah. A lot of the formality. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:06

Oh yeah, when you know when I mean I can remember well, I have we have I have some pictures of like Easter Sunday when I was like maybe eight, nine. Man, I'm all I'm doted up. You know, I got I got the suit, I got the hat on. I mean, you know, I'm looking good.

SPEAKER_02 12:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 12:26

But you know, that was back then, you know. My my sister, she had a real nice dress on. She had a little hat and gloves and a purse, you know. And that's that's way back in the 60s. But of course.

SPEAKER_06 12:40

You know, there was a point in time where every male wore like, you know, a dress shirt, tie, and males wore hats like fedoras. And you know, if you look at a lot of the pictures from 20s through the 40s, even through the 50s, a lot of men you didn't really leave the house or go anywhere unless you were dressed up. Yeah, you had it dressed up. No, you didn't see guys walking around in shorts and a t-shirt and flip-flops. No. It just didn't happen. Like men just weren't built that way back then. Because everything back then was, I think, pretty formal. And you know, so but now it's come as you are. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:21

I mean, as long as you get as long as you're as long as you are covered decently, yeah, what makes a difference. Yeah. You know. Because I got a pair of those socks, like you, you got you got the Abraham Lincoln socks. Yeah. Well, mine's got tools on them. So I told Beth, I told Pastor, I says, I'm gonna wear my Daisy Duke shorts and my boots and my long socks next Sunday.

SPEAKER_02 13:49

Oh man.

SPEAKER_04 13:52

He says, uh, that wouldn't be a good idea.

SPEAKER_00 13:54

Michael's like, I'm not coming next Sunday.

SPEAKER_04 13:55

I said, I said Yeah, I don't think it would be either.

SPEAKER_06 13:58

I think it was Holly Shore and son-in-law. Yeah. I forget where they're going, but he he cut the cowboy boots down to the Oh, they were they were going to a uh a uh uh a dance like at the at the like a barn dance. Yeah. Yeah. But he cut the the boots all the way down to the you know, like the ankle. Yeah. So they almost look like well, dress shoes, but that was his idea of, you know.

Setting The Theme: Come As You Are

SPEAKER_04 14:28

He was he was trying to fit in. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 14:30

You know, he and here you don't have to fit in. Well, you know, as long as you're here for one reason, you know, to praise the Lord and to worship him and to fellowship with like believers, that's all you need.

SPEAKER_00 14:42

Amen.

SPEAKER_04 14:42

Yeah, you know. You don't need a you don't need a suit and tie and a hat, dress coat. Because it's not necessary.

SPEAKER_02 14:53

No.

SPEAKER_04 14:54

But if that's the way you want to dress, if that's if that's what you're powering, if it's if that's your if that's your forte, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:03

Whatever you're most comfortable in, whatever you you feel like.

SPEAKER_04 15:06

Whatever, whenever whatever you most you feel is is is is you.

SPEAKER_00 15:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:11

So yeah.

SPEAKER_06 15:16

Yeah, I like that kind of thing personally. Yeah. I like I like getting I like getting dressed up with a suit tie, and that's not I'm not uncomfortable for me.

SPEAKER_04 15:24

For a lot of people, it's like yeah, it's it's not uncomfortable for me either.

SPEAKER_06 15:28

I just I like it. But yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:30

I just got so many different colored shirts, I don't know which one to wear. I don't know which one looks right with this color suit. You know what I mean? Yeah. Oh, and then the last time I wore a tie, well, my wife didn't pick it out for me, and evidently it was the wrong one. Yeah. It was still green. Had green in it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:51

Probably the wrong green, Roger.

SPEAKER_04 15:53

No, it was it was close to the, but hey.

SPEAKER_06 15:57

You know, was it wide enough? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 15:59

That's the reason that's the reason I wine. That's the reason I really don't, you know, get dressed up too much to come to church because she's not awake to say that doesn't work, that doesn't look right.

SPEAKER_00 16:10

So well, if you figure out how to send pictures, you can send it to me and say, Does this look okay, Sid? I'm thinking of this tonight. Does this look okay? Yeah. Uh yes. Like a a fashion stylist or yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:32

There you go. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:33

Something.

SPEAKER_04 16:34

Yeah. I'm styling all right. Styling right out the door.

SPEAKER_00 16:39

Now, the podcast you were listening to, Nick, that this sparked the idea from. No, were you? Were they coming? Oh, it wasn't a podcast. Oh.

SPEAKER_06 16:48

Every Friday I listen to Top 40 with Casey Case and the old like on YouTube, you can get the old broadcast.

SPEAKER_00 16:59

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_06 17:00

Like the 80s. So every Friday. It's not old.

SPEAKER_05 17:02

So well, think about it though.

SPEAKER_04 17:04

I mean, it's it's 20 years, I guess. Twenty-five.

SPEAKER_00 17:08

Forty-five.

SPEAKER_06 17:09

Yeah, forty-five. If you're thinking 35 to 45 years old.

SPEAKER_04 17:15

Yeah, I'm not good at math either.

SPEAKER_00 17:18

It feels like it's that, you know.

SPEAKER_06 17:20

It doesn't seem that long ago. But when you yeah, it's it's kind of scary. But that's my vibe on Fridays, is I'll just, I'll just up on YouTube in my office, I'll just find one I haven't listened to and I'll put it up because just the sound of his voice kind of like brings me back to childhood.

SPEAKER_00 17:36

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 17:37

I'd be riding around in the car with my parents and they'd always be listening to it. And yeah. So it's just a kind of like a vibe for me on Fridays to do it. And he he was now I don't know who he was talking about. I missed I missed the beginning of it. But he was talking about a musician. And he was talking about why he became a musician. And whoever this was, they said I was too I wasn't good enough for God, I wasn't bad enough for the devil. So I went with rock and roll.

SPEAKER_04 18:16

You know, I I I I heard I've heard that I've heard that statement. I forget where it was at. And I mean it's just been within the last, I don't know, maybe last week.

Dress Codes, Comfort, And Church Culture

SPEAKER_06 18:30

Yeah, so who was it who wasn't good enough for God. Who was the artist? Too bad. I don't know. I missed the like the beginning, who he was talking about. But I just heard him say that and it instantly just like clicked with me. Like, there's a lot of people for you. Maybe the way that they think, if they're if they're thinking about going to church or coming to God, a lot of people will just be like, Well, I'm not good enough for God. And but you know, yeah, I know I'm not bad enough for the devil. So I just I just go in between. You know, I just I just find my comfort zone in between, try to stay out of trouble, just try to be a good person. Yeah. Or in this person's case, I just choose rock and roll, somewhere in the middle. Yeah. And it just made me think, like, okay, yeah, that's why a lot of people never take that step. Is because they think I'm just not good enough to go to the Lord. Well, you don't you think it's fear? I don't know if it's always fear. I maybe in inferiority, like like you just feel inferior to it because whether you have guilt over some of the things you've done in your life, whether you you've got maybe like you know, you know you have a problem with alcohol or you have a problem with gambling, if you have you just know you have a problem, and you just don't think you can go forward to God until until you get something under control. I'm gonna figure it out myself. So until then, until I get this figured out, you know, I'm just gonna, you know, I can't come to God that way. Yeah. So I'm sure fear could play into it. Yeah. But I think a lot of times I think people just think that, oh, you know, it can't help somebody like me. Like I've either done too much or or haven't done enough to deserve that or to seek that relationship. So they'll just, like I said, they'll just ride in the middle.

SPEAKER_00 20:33

And yeah, but but little do they know, like most of the time those bad things that you used to do or whatever it may be, more than likely turns into part of your testimony and makes it even more stronger and makes you be able to relate with more people and quote unquote pull them in and you know, tell them about Jesus. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 20:58

Oh, absolutely. And what he did with you. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 21:02

But that's hard to do, I think, sometimes until you get in that sort of and and find out, like, oh, I'm not the only one. You're right. You know, everybody has problems. Right. Everybody's, you know, had situations in their life, nobody's perfect. Yeah. And that could be also maybe they've been judged by Probably somebody who is religious.

SPEAKER_00 21:24

Well, and I mean religion, let's just face it. Like the word, like a lot of the times with that word, like people think, you know, you gotta be stuck up and you gotta be prim and proper to show up Sunday morning. Like that's just what culture thinks a lot of the times. Like you don't you don't have to think it yourself, like that's what culture is telling them to think about it.

SPEAKER_06 21:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 21:47

Yeah. I saw someone say, you know, do you whenever you're getting ready for a shower? Like, do you clean up before you get in the shower?

SPEAKER_06 21:59

Pre-shower?

SPEAKER_00 22:00

Yeah, like do you have a pre-shower before the shower? Like, no, you get in the shower to get clean. Like, you don't clean before you get in the shower. Yeah. You know, it's kind of like that.

SPEAKER_06 22:11

Okay. Well, sometimes your wife will say, take your boots off.

SPEAKER_00 22:15

Well, yeah. I mean, there are you have to there are times Chase is in a sewer and he doesn't even come into the house. Like, I don't tell him, hey, like he's always done that. Like, hey, I gotta strip down real quick.

SPEAKER_04 22:27

Oh, uh believe me, I've I've stripped, I've I have stripped down on the porch. Of course, where I live, you know, they nobody can see it, but yeah, it's animals.

SPEAKER_00 22:38

But and normally it's like the mud room or something. I'm like, whatever.

SPEAKER_04 22:40

Oh no, I gotta do it outside. I can't even if I'm I'm serious. I mean if I if I worked with around diesel fuel, cannot stand the smell of that. Yeah. And it's you know, it just kind of permeates your your clothes. Outside. Yep. So, you know, take your boots off, take your coat off, take your shirt off, take your pants off, run in the house, jump in the shower right away.

SPEAKER_00 23:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:09

Well, and it's like, you know, say you are struggling with something and you're thinking, oh, well, I I need to figure this out before I can turn it over and quote unquote become a better person or something. Yeah, but how can if you can't do it without his help, so you might as well give it to him early and then work it out through those days and difficulties with him. Because if you don't have it, like work it out with him as you're going to church. Like that'll only help matter. You know, like and guess what?

SPEAKER_06 23:37

He already knows anyway.

SPEAKER_00 23:38

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 23:39

Like he already knows you're not hiding anything from because you can't. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:43

And you're like, no matter how clean you're trying to be, and say you do quit smoking or do quit drinking and are able to come, like, he's still gonna look at you as like kind of filthy because you're full of sin. You know what I mean? Like he's gonna love you and you know, welcome you in open arms regardless, but you're still going to be like full of filthy sin regardless. So yeah, you might as well just come with all of it.

SPEAKER_06 24:08

Yeah, it's foolish just to think that you know you're gonna walk into church. Yeah, you you might deceive the people, the people walk in all nice and shiny, and but you you're never gonna deceive God anyhow. So if you're waiting because you you feel you're you know inferior and you're just not up to it yet, or you haven't reached that level that you feel you need to reach, it's a waste of time. You're just wasting time. Another thing that kind of I was thinking about is because Timmy and his wife Emily and my wife and I, and my stepson Charlie and Seth, we all had a Bible study this past Monday. Timmy and Emily came to the house with the kids, and so we just had like a little hour Bible study. Yeah. And we just started in Matthew. Okay. Um, because Charlie, he's he's kind of on the fence, and the main reason I think he's on the fence is because he wants he doesn't he doesn't understand how God is possible.

SPEAKER_00 25:09

So Charlie was there?

SPEAKER_06 25:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:11

That's good. Yeah. Was Seth there?

SPEAKER_06 25:14

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 25:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_06 25:15

Mm-hmm. Okay. Of course, you know, Seth comes to church. So he he's you know, he he's got some of it figured out. But early, he's he said he's on the fence because he just doesn't understand how God could be possible. You know, when we start talking about how he created the earth and everything that goes into that, and all the you know, the power that God has, and you just and and we of course kicking it off with Matthew, you know, we're talking about Mary being a virgin, you know, having a child. So he's like, that's impossible. And he's like, Yeah, how is that even like possible? You know, and and that's a that's when you have to answer that question, you realize that, well, you can't give somebody a rational answer.

SPEAKER_04 25:59

Yeah, you can't tell them, well, you know, you have to figure it out your they've had they have to figure it out. They have to they have to find find their their way to rationalize things. Yep. And to to allow the Holy Spirit to come in and actually show them, you know, and and let them be able to figure it out and understand it.

SPEAKER_06 26:22

Yeah, you have to develop that faith through trust and understanding of God and just realizing that it's not for us to know all those things. Yeah, right. That's not the knowing of those things is not important to our faith. Yeah. We don't have to have all the answers to the universe.

SPEAKER_00 26:41

No.

SPEAKER_06 26:42

In order to have faith in God.

SPEAKER_00 26:43

Yeah, and we're not going to have all the answers either.

SPEAKER_06 26:47

Like no. No. And that's what I was trying to tell Charlie. I said, you know, a lot of people are in your same situation where they're they will decide either not to pursue a relationship with God, or again, they've got a lot of questions, and until they get those questions answered, they they're not gonna go forward. Yeah, they're not gonna go all in because they've got doubts about how could all how could this universe as God created it be possible? You know, they would rather believe you know the big bang theory, something to that effect, because that sounds more plausible.

SPEAKER_04 27:27

But you gotta look at it this way. Who created the big bang theory? Did God right God could have created the big bang theory. You know, he could have he could have collided a couple planets together. One maybe that had a lot of water, the other one had the seasons to make it when you make the genus.

SPEAKER_06 27:53

He doesn't go step by step by step all the ingredients that went into this. It's you know, he it's just a matter of fact. He created the earth, moon, the stars, the whole, you know. It's very matter-of fact. Yes. You're not getting all the you know, ingredients and details and science of it all.

SPEAKER_04 28:11

Yeah, it's not a one, two, three thing.

SPEAKER_06 28:13

No, but that's what but that's what people want. Yeah, they want to see like how could how how could there be a God that somehow just developed and created this whole earth.

SPEAKER_00 28:28

It's just baffling to me about the Big Bang Theory of people thinking and I'm not saying it wasn't real, you know, but I'm like, because I don't know. I mean, I'm kind of more like Roger, like maybe God created the big, you know, the Big Bang Theory. Like, but we have a Bible with thousands and thousands and thousands of articles that takes us clear back until these times. Like, this is so many pieces of history and evidence that nothing else has. Like the Big Bang Theory does not have all of this that has survived through how many different generations, how many different you know, civilizations, like nothing else has that besides Christianity.

SPEAKER_06 29:07

Right. Like, yep. So well, and as Timmy was trying to explain to Charlie, says, when you think about it, when you think about the human eye, just the human eye, he said, and all of the different things going on in it going on in the eye, and all the all the matter behind it, all the things that have to work perfectly for your eye to see, he says, is is a wonder in itself. And that's just your eye.

SPEAKER_00 29:35

Yeah, that's it that let alone the whole body.

SPEAKER_06 29:37

How can you now how can you say that this was a matter of this big bang just happening? And all of a sudden we crawl we crawled out of the ocean. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And and the eye is intricate as it is. But there again just was just chance.

SPEAKER_04 29:55

But there again, who created those animals that were in it? You know, yeah. You have to you have to look at that. You know, who create who created the dinosaurs? You know, maybe God, maybe God put you know, he put those on earth to what do I want to say make ground fertile so that when you know he put man on there that that they could grow food to to support themselves.

SPEAKER_02 30:24

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:25

I mean, you know, if you go back big, you know, yeah, it's well and there's just every everything everything everything leads back to God.

SPEAKER_00 30:33

Yeah. I mean, this isn't all for like with the topic, but I'm glad we're going down it. But even like the, you know, there's so many stories about people that have gone to heaven or even gone to hell and then woken back up, and like they are so similar in their stories. And I'm talking like this child was three years old, and then they're talking to someone else that had the same, you know, experience in seven years ago, and they were four years old, you know, like come come like I think one was from United States and one was from England. Like they don't have any correlation, yet whatever they described was identical.

SPEAKER_04 31:12

Well, that was that was like that's not a coincidence. Wasn't that the the the little boy and the little girl? The little girl drew a picture of of Jesus. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 31:20

And she was like, hey, yeah, yeah.

Not Good Enough For God? Myth Busted

SPEAKER_04 31:22

And when when he woke when he woke up, something about uh his he said he's seen Jesus and then and his his they had a picture of of Jesus in the in the ho in the yeah hotel room. Hospital.

SPEAKER_00 31:33

Mm-hmm. And he's like, No, I don't know.

SPEAKER_04 31:35

He said that's not him.

SPEAKER_00 31:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 31:37

But then the little girl, the picture that she that she drew of of Jesus. He says, Yeah, that's Jesus.

SPEAKER_00 31:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 31:45

You know, so we don't we don't know what we don't know what Jesus looks like, you know.

SPEAKER_00 31:49

So it just we're not supposed to. Well no, you know, and maybe we're not supposed to because of this, you know.

SPEAKER_06 31:58

I mean the whole the whole process of dreams, you know, that every every human through all time has has is able to dream and just everything that goes behind that, and we all know that dreams have been a are a part of the Bible, right? And we're you know, where God and angels have come to man through dreams to tell prophecy, messages, everything like that. To write the Bible. Just the fact that we dream and the whole process of that and the whole meaning behind that. Yep. Yeah, it's it's only something that and that's the thing, it's only something as far as we know that humans experience. Sorry, but now I'm intrigued by my wife's text. She says, I'm coming to get the truck. I'll leave the keys in the car, I have the spare keys to the truck. Why is she coming to get the truck? What has she done now?

SPEAKER_04 32:56

She is by she has bought something that won't fit in the car.

SPEAKER_00 33:00

She is coming as she can to get more.

SPEAKER_04 33:04

She's coming as she is, as she are.

SPEAKER_00 33:07

Ready or not? Here I come.

SPEAKER_06 33:10

If that's the case, I will be going as I am. Did you ask? Not coming back.

SPEAKER_00 33:16

Did you say what did you do now?

SPEAKER_06 33:18

No, I'm just gonna I'm gonna wait and see. No, man.

SPEAKER_04 33:21

You want you want the surprise.

SPEAKER_06 33:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:24

Oh man. Are you sure you want the surprise?

SPEAKER_04 33:26

No, probably not, but it's got it's something big. And it's it's it's Christmas decorations. Could be. Either that or she bought her new house or something.

SPEAKER_06 33:37

Because the other intriguing factor here is that my sister-in-law sent an attachment. The only time she sends us attachments is when it's about Christmas decorations. Something's on sale. Christmas decorations. Christmas decorations on sale.

SPEAKER_00 33:53

Your sister-in-law.

SPEAKER_06 33:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 33:55

Her sister?

SPEAKER_06 33:56

Well, do I got that right? So her brother's wife.

SPEAKER_04 34:02

So that would be your sister-in-law.

SPEAKER_00 34:03

Okay. I was trying to figure out who you were talking about. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 34:06

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 34:07

Okay. So our sister's not going to be able to do it.

SPEAKER_06 34:10

The only time she sends us, yes. Attachments is when because she like just looks for stuff for us. She just likes, you know.

SPEAKER_04 34:18

She likes spending your money. Yeah, yeah. She wants to see you work.

SPEAKER_06 34:22

Enjoys other people spending their money. So we'll see. I'll just leave it. See what happens here.

SPEAKER_04 34:30

Intriguing. Big secret. Secret agent man.

SPEAKER_06 34:39

Oh man. Well. Well, we got a little off topic here. We did.

SPEAKER_05 34:45

But do we that's okay?

SPEAKER_06 34:47

Two or three times. Because sometimes we cover it without covering it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 34:51

You know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 34:53

But uh you just gotta love everybody the way they are. You know, sometimes they can't help it.

SPEAKER_06 35:03

And that's what God does. And that's why He doesn't want you to wait. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 35:07

I wanted to bring up though. Come as you are, but don't stay that way. Yeah, yeah. Grow that relationship. Don't make it like because when you start to grow that relationship, you will want to change the way that you are. Like, let's say you're an alcoholic. You will want to be better because you're like, wow, this guy that didn't even know me died for my sins on this cross, carried all of our sins, didn't even know me, you know, like and he wants me to be better.

SPEAKER_06 35:38

And once you believe it, once you take it into your heart, then you see, as I was saying, people are always they want they always want these answers to these mysteries of the world and of life and earth and of God. But surprise. But once yeah, but once you start following Jesus, you take it into your heart. The changes that you see in yourself are the proof. Yeah. That's that's when you really start to see God, is when you see it within yourself. Yes. You know, you you'll you'll feel the change, you'll see the change, then you know God is real, then you know you're on the right path.

SPEAKER_00 36:14

You'll know the changes happening every day when you're talking to him or in the word. Like you don't have to be vocally talking to him. You can be in the word. You know, the other day, like Cooper's, I don't know. I don't know what's going on with him. I don't know if he's just has a sleep regression thing going on where he doesn't want to sleep, or if he's actually sick. There was like five different things that was going on, and I'm like googling all these things, like diarrhea, just a little bit, and then this rash on his face and all this stuff, but I'm like, well, the rash could be like googling is the worst thing.

SPEAKER_06 36:45

Well, and that's the thing, you know.

SPEAKER_00 36:46

I'm like, I so I get into my devotion and it's like basically saying it was talking about someone's testimony, and then it was saying, you know, whenever this girl was sick, she was younger and she had like polio, I think. And she's like, you know, the doctors said that there wasn't much that they could do. They didn't have many answers for my grandparents at the time. They were like, What do we do? You know, so they're like going home for the evening from the hospital, and the grandparents just pulled over, which would have been the parents of the, you know, child, the sick child, but they just started praying. And I'm like, Yeah, that's what I need to do. Like, don't don't go to Google, don't go to WebMD first, don't go to Chat GPT first, go to your Lord, your savior, and fight, not even fight it out with him, just talk it out with him. Like ask him all these things that or even ask him, hey, if that is this is something I should be worried about. Like, if if it's not, just let me feel at peace about it. And like he will more than likely give that to you. Right.

SPEAKER_06 37:46

Yes, he'll give you the strength and wisdom and the rest you need to deal with whatever's yeah coming at you. Yeah. Yep. If you that's the thing, if you feed into the world and Google everything, and that's the worst thing you can do is you got a medical condition or a medical concern, you start Googling, man. Do you can you go to a rabbit hole?

SPEAKER_00 38:08

Yeah, you're sicker than when you're starting like you're well, my sister, she had thyroid terminal. Yeah, and shy, you know, after she had her two surgeries. I don't know, it was like six weeks or six months later, they did more testing. And, you know, of course, she's gets on and can see the test results before the doctor calls her when they tell you, don't get on there. Well, she gets on there, and then she's Googling all these medical terms that she's never been to medical school. She's not a nurse, she's never been in the medical field, and I'm like, don't get on there. And she thinks she has it again or something. No, no, you just you stepped that boundary because we have all that information anyway, so we might as well just start.

SPEAKER_06 38:51

Yeah, you know. Oh, yeah. Once the mind starts working, yeah, you can make yourself sick.

SPEAKER_04 39:01

No, we were when I was a kid, we were I was working at the gas station, and we had this other fellow. He wasn't he he was a nice guy, but he was just a little slow. And we didn't mean this other guy, we didn't want to work a kid, we didn't want to work with him. So when we went in, we started saying, Boy, you look, you you don't look too good. You you don't you don't look too good. We actually talked him into being sick. Yeah. We actually talked him into being sick. He told the boss, he says, I gotta go home, I'm sick. The boss says, Okay.

SPEAKER_06 39:35

I could do that sometimes when people I know somebody is sick around me, I'll all of a sudden start to feel like, oh, I'm feeling feeling something here. Yeah, might be getting it. Or like if you're talking about lice or ticks or something, you're like, then you start scratching and you're like, oh man, do I have it?

SPEAKER_00 39:51

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 39:52

Yep. So it's easy to do.

SPEAKER_04 39:57

So why don't why don't why don't we just why don't we let the Lord do that? Yeah, tell us something, and then we just gotta keep going at it, you know, and go further and further and further and further and look more and look more and look more in his word.

SPEAKER_06 40:13

Yep you know, instead of Yeah, why can't we treat Jesus like Google? Yeah, why can't we know?

SPEAKER_05 40:19

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 40:21

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 40:22

Google God.

SPEAKER_06 40:24

That's a good one. But that is a great question, is why why as humans are we like that?

SPEAKER_04 40:32

Why why we want to fit in? We want to be like everybody else.

SPEAKER_00 40:36

Or we just want to know.

SPEAKER_06 40:38

But why do you believe this random thing is going to tell you? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 40:43

Not to mention, like, you know, Wikipedia, like anyone can get on there and like edit these facts about anything. You know, if there's a Wikipedia page, you can get on there and I don't know if it's still current or not, but like in I remember in high school they would say, do not use Wikipedia as a resource because anyone can get on there and can change the facts and make it false. So you would have to use like dot net or dot org, like different, you know, pages and websites. But It's like, you know, you you just googling something, and the first thing that pops up, that does not make it true. If anything, that makes it false because it's it came up so quickly. It's like, here's the nonsense answer, there you are. Like, no. I don't know. Yeah, I I truly don't know why we're so like naive enough to gullible. Yeah, yeah. To believe it. Yeah, yeah. Gotta put on some wisdom. Discernment.

SPEAKER_06 41:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 41:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 41:47

Yep. But you can't get it if you're not in the word. If you're not in the word. Yep. And again, there's nothing ever stopping you from just starting to get into the word. Yep. Nobody can stop you from opening this book. Nothing in your life can stop you from opening this book. Nothing.

SPEAKER_04 42:05

There is one thing that can stop you. Yourself.

SPEAKER_06 42:07

Yourself. Yeah. I mean, just like you don't, there's no you don't have to get a ticket and wait. Yeah. There's no, you know, there's no there's nobody, there's no line to stand in.

SPEAKER_05 42:19

No.

SPEAKER_06 42:20

You know, there's no there's no there's no interview or you know, you don't have to hand in a resume first, nothing. All you gotta do is just find it and open it. Yeah. And you're in. Doesn't matter again who you are, what you look like, where you came from, where you thought you were going, yeah, where you want to go.

SPEAKER_00 42:38

You're locked in. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 42:40

It's all you gotta do is want to seek it first. You do and that's the main thing is you above anything else, you have to do have the true desire to seek God.

SPEAKER_00 42:49

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 42:50

And once you do that, everything else moves, everything else starts to move forward.

SPEAKER_00 42:56

Yeah. But you have to truly s want to seek Him first.

SPEAKER_06 43:00

Yeah. You have to be like, yep, I've tried everything else. It's all you're doing. It's not working. You know, I put it off long enough. And even if and and it's okay that you have questions. Yeah. As I was saying, like with Charlie, it's okay that you have those questions. Any sensible human being would have those questions. Like, how could this be possible? And so don't, you know, feel guilty because you have those questions, because you know, I still have questions.

SPEAKER_00 43:28

Yeah, that's what I was about to say.

SPEAKER_06 43:30

You're always gonna have questions. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 43:32

So that that's no excuse, no reason not to get into the word and see how it can change your heart and change your life. There's it, and there's no, like I said, there's no reason to wait. Because you, you know, that's part of it, is you're you're gonna be seeking. You're always gonna be seeking different, you know, answers to questions that you have.

SPEAKER_00 43:52

And whatever you read now might not hit you until 20 years from now. Exactly. When you read that same passage.

SPEAKER_06 43:58

It may, one passage may hit you a certain way.

SPEAKER_00 44:00

Yep. At one point in your life.

SPEAKER_06 44:02

And in 10 years, that same passage might mean something completely different. Yeah, they may give you a different answer to a different problem. Yep. But that's that's what the Bible does. That's why it's the living word. Yes. It's not, yes, it's full of history, it comes from history, so true. But but like history in most forms is just history. Yeah. Yeah, we can learn from it, sure. But this is like the living word. Yeah, and like it can constantly change.

SPEAKER_00 44:31

Yes, it's the same yesterday, today, and forever. However, I don't think it's the same for you in certain parts, seasons of your life, like like we were just saying, like you spiritual maturity. Exactly. Or you know, something some block that's standing in your way and that you can't get through. That scripture might speak to you more in ten years whenever you're dealing with that certain block rather than it did yesterday, you know?

SPEAKER_06 45:00

Yeah. And when we started that Bible study, we skipped over the first part of Matthew where where it goes through the family tree. We're gonna just gonna skip that. Uh-huh. And I said, Yep, I said, that's good. I said, but just understand, I said, if you do read through all those names, you will not find one perfect person in that lineage from the first person till we get Jesus. Yeah. The only perfect person you're gonna find is at the end with Jesus. All the other people that make it possible for him to come to this earth, they all had flaws, but God still used them. And he didn't wait until they were ready, free and clear.

SPEAKER_00 45:41

And it's it's crazy, like, because I'm sure the ending of your Bible study was probably, you know, him with all these questions, like, you know, but it's like at the beginning you almost answered it because here is this historical, you know, passage that tells you from like, why do you think they wrote down all these names? Yeah, it's just they wrote them down for a reason, you know.

SPEAKER_06 46:04

Forward or backward in the book, it's all seamless. It'll all come out the way it's supposed to. You will not find the hole. Or you won't. That's what's incredible about it. But yeah, so again, all these people, you can have a hand in it just as they did. But you can have your flaws, you know, because God's still God is going to use you if you if you just open yourself up to it. You know, God, God wants to use you, he and He's not waiting on you to be pristine before he does it.

SPEAKER_02 46:35

No, you know.

SPEAKER_06 46:36

So it's okay to have doubt, it's okay to have questions. You know. That's just that's life in itself, is to have questions, to have doubts, to have fears, and but the more you trust in the word, the less, I think the less of them you have. You you you learn not to sweat the small stuff.

SPEAKER_00 46:54

Yeah. You know what I also picture like when people are trying to quote unquote get ready to be a Christian, or like I have to, you know, I have to be better before I can become a Christian. Like I'm thinking, you know, you get these text messages like, hey, you care if I because I get them a lot recently since I have Cooper. Hey, you care if I swing by, I'm in town, which I do genuinely appreciate them texting me, asking me that. So it's like, oh crap, but the the house is a mess, like, and then I'm running around, you know, frantically just trying to clean up whatever I can. But it's like that's what I'm picturing. Like you're going to try to half-ass everything. Uh I mean, just so you can almost look presentable, but it's like, yeah, I mean, no, yeah. He doesn't care.

SPEAKER_06 47:43

And unfortunately, we we do have that behavior with each other as human beings. That's the way life works. But God is one person that you don't have to do that with.

SPEAKER_00 47:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 47:54

Because again, he sees it all anyway.

SPEAKER_00 47:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 47:56

You know, he knows you just tidied up.

unknown 47:58

Right.

SPEAKER_06 47:58

Like if God walked through your front door, yeah, he'd already seen you. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:03

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_04 48:03

So he's he saw the house before you. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 48:05

So there's no point. There's no point in doing that. No. You know, that's not what he's looking for.

SPEAKER_05 48:10

No.

SPEAKER_04 48:11

You know what my grandmother used to say? If they came to look at my house, they didn't come to see me.

SPEAKER_00 48:17

Yep. So true. It's true though. Yep. I mean. But you know, it's just part that's just another thing about being a human lady. Yeah, it's just human behavior.

SPEAKER_06 48:29

Yeah, you can everybody make a good impression.

SPEAKER_00 48:32

And most people tell you, it's fine, you know, you've got a lot going on. You have a baby. And most people do genuinely mean that. But then you're yeah, and then you're like, no, it's just your body telling mind.

SPEAKER_04 48:45

It can't do that. Yeah, just another weird thing that us humans do. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:51

We are a finicky bunch, or the human race.

SPEAKER_06 48:58

Yep.

SPEAKER_00 48:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 49:02

Always have been. Always will be.

SPEAKER_00 49:04

Always will be.

SPEAKER_03 49:07

We'll just go the way we are.

SPEAKER_00 49:10

Yes.

SPEAKER_03 49:11

We will come as we are.

SPEAKER_00 49:13

Quick question. I meant to ask you guys this. Is this in the Bible anywhere? Come as you are. Like those words.

SPEAKER_04 49:20

I don't believe those exact words are.

SPEAKER_00 49:22

I don't think so. No. There's like some scripture and passage that oh, I just actually um I just keep thinking about, you know, I stand at the door and knock.

SPEAKER_06 49:33

Yeah. You know, when Jesus comes, knock and you know, let him in. It does you might not know the time he's coming. Right. You might not have time to clean up. Right. But when he It's like answer. If Jesus is knocking on your door, don't think, oh, there's these ten other things I can do before we answer it. No, you should answer the door.

SPEAKER_00 49:53

Yes. Joel Is that how you say it? Joel?

unknown 49:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 49:57

Okay. Joel 2 32. And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved. For on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be deliverance, as the Lord has said among the survivors whom the Lord calls. So there's a couple different passages of scripture pretty similar to that, you know, that beat around the bush about coming as you are, you know. But I don't think it's in red letters anywhere saying, Come as you are.

SPEAKER_03 50:24

No, I don't believe so.

SPEAKER_06 50:25

Right. But yeah, but I think you know, Jesus proves it plenty of time.

SPEAKER_00 50:30

Yes.

SPEAKER_04 50:34

Well, look who he picked. Well who he did. Yeah, and Mary. You know, yeah. I mean, you know.

SPEAKER_00 50:39

The first, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 50:40

They were they they were they came as they were. You know. And he called them. Yeah, he called them. They didn't they didn't go to him. He called them.

SPEAKER_06 50:50

So I'm sure, and I'm sure even sometimes they were like, Are you sure you really want me?

SPEAKER_00 50:55

Right. You know, like you're making a mistake here.

SPEAKER_06 50:58

Yeah, you're making a mistake. Well, didn't didn't didn't Matthew say that? Something like a tax collector?

SPEAKER_04 51:04

Yeah, like sure you got the right Matthew?

SPEAKER_06 51:07

Mm-hmm. He's like, Oh yeah, I'm sure. I know you don't you don't see you don't see you the way I see you. Yeah. You know, which that's a big thing. A lot of people, it's like, I know you think this about yourself, or but you don't see you the way I see. There's a whole other person there that you don't see.

SPEAKER_00 51:26

Yes.

SPEAKER_06 51:26

Because you got all these other things going on that you don't need that aren't important.

SPEAKER_00 51:30

Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_06 51:31

But you know, I see the one who I created. You know, the only problem is you don't see it. You don't see it. But it's gonna take a relationship with me for you to open your eyes and say it. Yeah. Yeah. There's a whole other person in there, you know, that that you're capable of being. Yeah. And it has nothing to do with what you're doing right now.

SPEAKER_05 51:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 51:51

And you can leave that all behind you. You know, all it's gonna take is we just gotta get started. Yep. And it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_00 52:00

All in.

SPEAKER_06 52:01

Yeah, all in. There's much hips. You know, yeah. Yep.

SPEAKER_05 52:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 52:06

Yeah. Well, you know, and Jesus has to explain a lot of times. Like when they're out in the out on the boat in the middle of the water in the storm, like he's like, seriously, guys, you still don't get it? Right, right. There's so many times. He's like, seriously, you guys still don't get it?

SPEAKER_02 52:20

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_06 52:21

You know, like what what more do I need to do to prove to you? To have that faith. Yeah. That even if I don't walk on this water, you're gonna have that faith that I am who I say I am and I can do what I say I'm gonna do. You know, and all you have to do is that brings up a good point.

SPEAKER_00 52:37

I read something this week that Moses or God didn't part the Red Sea until Moses stepped forward. So it was like he wanted to see what his faith was going to do. Right. He's like, once he stepped forward, then I parted the sea. So it's like he's waiting for you to step forward and just come as you are.

SPEAKER_06 52:57

Yeah, he didn't part it, then say, Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 53:00

Yeah, I'm like, wow, I never really heard that or put those two together. I'm like, I don't know. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 53:11

And that sounds impossible.

unknown 53:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 53:15

Nothing's impossible with God.

SPEAKER_06 53:17

Yeah. But they I I think I've heard that they are starting to find evidence that you know, because there was well, there was never any chariots found. Yep. You know, there was no evidence, physical evidence found of the city. I've heard that too that they're finding. Yeah. Now you're starting to hear about the things that are coming up that may well prove it.

SPEAKER_00 53:36

Yep. Yeah. Just more evidence.

SPEAKER_04 53:40

Yeah. The non-believers. They keep looking for the they keep looking for something that that's they don't want to find it. They look for it, but they don't want to find it. Yeah. Pretty much. Yeah. You know, they you know, they just keep like and and every time they find something like, ooh, wow. Maybe we shouldn't look anymore. Wow, let's let's go see if we can find this because we know this isn't here.

SPEAKER_00 54:09

Another phase.

SPEAKER_04 54:10

Yeah. Yeah. So they just uh strengthening God's word. Pretty much.

SPEAKER_06 54:21

Yeah. Yeah, they they're out to try to debunk it. Right. And they're they're gonna keep strengthening it.

SPEAKER_00 54:26

Yeah. Yeah. Well that was good. Yeah. Do we know whose turn it is to pray?

SPEAKER_06 54:40

I believe it's mine. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 54:42

Yeah, you're right. Yeah, because I thought last time I'm like, wow, and Beth's not even here for me to tell her, but I was like, wow, Beth has really like she was always so nervous to pray and stuff, and like she's just she's such a natural at it. Like, I know I'm not a natural at it, but she is, you know, and it's like wow. Like she she would have never been nervous because yeah, but there you're afraid to step out of your comfort zone.

SPEAKER_04 55:06

Yeah. You know.

SPEAKER_00 55:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 55:08

But she's I think she's allowing the Holy Spirit just to take over.

SPEAKER_00 55:13

Yeah. All righty. Good. Here we are. Are we ready?

Big Bang, Design, And Evidence

SPEAKER_06 55:23

Lord, we thank you again for the special time that you give us each week to come together and discuss all the wonder and splendor that that is you. Um I just thank you so much for sometimes, you know, we we come in here expecting to do one thing. You know, we come as we are, and sometimes um something unexpected will happen that gives us a whole different perspective and gives us uh further understanding and meaning into other people's lives um and the uh situations uh that may be heavy on their heart. Yes. Um and I just thank you for allowing us, giving us a chance uh to help help those um in those situations. Yes. Um just help us continue um to always just be pressing forward to help as many people as we can, understand that you know there is no waiting period uh for your love and your faith and understanding. Um just um that's why we're here is is to bring people to you. And um we just want to do that with all of the you know honesty and urgency that we can. Um and I just pray that you will allow us to uh just give us um another another healthy season of doing this. Yes. Um and that's uh we look forward to it. Uh so I pray travel mercies on every everyone leaving tonight, and I pray all these things in your precious name. Amen.

SPEAKER_04 56:47

Amen.