Ever wondered how first responders train for the unexpected, or what goes on behind the blue line of law enforcement? TraumaDiva joins us from TikTok fame to shed light on the complexities of public service, the resilience it demands, and the humor that often serves as an officer's lifeline. Our unscripted conversation meanders through the rigorous world of first responder training, the emotional cost of online harassment, and the silent battles fought by officers under the public's critical eye.
We laugh, we share, and sometimes we grapple with the gritty realities of our roles in law enforcement and digital entrepreneurship. From the adrenaline of SWAT team drills to the tension of handling online transactions gone awry, the episode is a candid chronicle of the challenges and triumphs that mark our professional and personal lives. It's an intimate peek into the gift-giving culture of influencer fame, juxtaposed with the stark responsibilities of running a small business, and a rare chance to celebrate the power of body positivity and personal growth within the force.
Finally, take a seat as we unpack the nuances of policing—a job where the right personality can mean the difference between life and death. Listen closely as we dissect the crucial balance between authority and ego, reveal the unspoken philosophies that guide traffic stops, and address the alignment of roles in high-stress jobs. This episode is more than just a conversation; it's a tribute to the unwavering spirit of those who serve, the communities they protect, and the importance of staying true to oneself in the face of adversity.
Thank you all for all the support! I couldn't do this without everyone's support! Please have a great week and stay safe! Please check out our Patreon to support us and help us grow! https://www.patreon.com/DEPUTYDANE
Ever wondered how first responders train for the unexpected, or what goes on behind the blue line of law enforcement? TraumaDiva joins us from TikTok fame to shed light on the complexities of public service, the resilience it demands, and the humor that often serves as an officer's lifeline. Our unscripted conversation meanders through the rigorous world of first responder training, the emotional cost of online harassment, and the silent battles fought by officers under the public's critical eye.
We laugh, we share, and sometimes we grapple with the gritty realities of our roles in law enforcement and digital entrepreneurship. From the adrenaline of SWAT team drills to the tension of handling online transactions gone awry, the episode is a candid chronicle of the challenges and triumphs that mark our professional and personal lives. It's an intimate peek into the gift-giving culture of influencer fame, juxtaposed with the stark responsibilities of running a small business, and a rare chance to celebrate the power of body positivity and personal growth within the force.
Finally, take a seat as we unpack the nuances of policing—a job where the right personality can mean the difference between life and death. Listen closely as we dissect the crucial balance between authority and ego, reveal the unspoken philosophies that guide traffic stops, and address the alignment of roles in high-stress jobs. This episode is more than just a conversation; it's a tribute to the unwavering spirit of those who serve, the communities they protect, and the importance of staying true to oneself in the face of adversity.
Thank you all for all the support! I couldn't do this without everyone's support! Please have a great week and stay safe! Please check out our Patreon to support us and help us grow! https://www.patreon.com/DEPUTYDANE
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Speaker 2:Good morning everybody. Welcome to the deputy dane morning show. I appreciate all y'all for being here. We got some stuff to get into. I really don't know what we're gonna get into, but we'll get into something. Sit back. Oh, oh, yep, there's the sirens. I think we're all gonna be detained. Sit back and enjoy the show. Good morning everybody. Oh, that's extremely loud. Appreciate everybody.
Speaker 2:Being here another week down Didn't get. Last week had a lot of stuff going on. We're here this week and have a special one for you. This week we are gonna do our first guest on here. We are bringing Trauma Deva on. She's one of the mods on TikTok. It does a lot of good things on TikTok. I'm excited about this one. Hopefully this is really what people want to hear and we'll see. We'll play it out, see what people think. Please give me some feedback so we can see if we should bring more people on.
Speaker 2:It went. There was no scripts, no, nothing. This was just us talking and having a good time and going through everything. So if you guys do like it, please let me know. If you don't like it, please let me know. This is something that I'm trying to see what works out best for everybody. So sit back, enjoy it, and here we go. Okay, we'll do that Recording in progress. Okay, so then we'll start recording over here as well. All right, there we go. Now we're going. So finally doing a guest on the show. It's only taken us what a while Ready to sound.
Speaker 3:I don't want to talk about it the longest 45 minutes of my life.
Speaker 2:No comment how long that took us, but it took us a minute, but we figured it out Now. We're now we're I think we're recording this. Might, I don't know, this might be a whole waste of time and then it's not going to work, I don't know. We're going to hope that doesn't happen, because that would suck.
Speaker 3:But the only people that will know if we look stupid or not is you and me.
Speaker 2:True, true that because no one's here right now. That would, that would suck, would get through like an hour long and be like okay, it's been fun. All right just kidding.
Speaker 2:It's time to start that shit over. That would be our first course for me. So again, first time having somebody on this show, and I appreciate you coming on here and I appreciate all the support that you've continued to give me. So we'll break down who you are. You go by TraumaDiva on TikTok. You have a bunch of friends on TikTok. We've all become friends.
Speaker 2:I've watched a lot of videos that you do it with people. Yeah, do a lot of good things for first responder community and really for a lot of people, and people don't really notice how much you do. So we'll break that down a second. Then, last of all, you mod for me and other other TikTok people. I could not do this without your help and a bunch of the other mods help. I know it sounds like very like cliche. Thank you, I appreciate all the help. I could not do this without you, but literally I couldn't do without all of you, and it means the world to me having all you guys hanging out with me all the time, because I know for a fact that at least I'm gonna have a couple of friends with me. Even if it was just us, at least I have a couple of friends that were hanging out having a good time, because I remember the first time I started doing TikTok it was just like hello, is there anybody out there?
Speaker 3:I was afraid to do duets. Oh yeah, you're like ugh. Like that first duet. It was like jumping out of a plane. I'm like I'm not ready for that.
Speaker 2:I don't know what to do with my hands. What do we do now Exactly?
Speaker 2:So now that I have a few of you friends like it's nice to get on and know that at least I have people that have like-minded humor and people that I can sit there and just kind of bullshit with, and it's like this is really what it's about to me. It's not about making money, it's not about climbing ranks, it's not about any of that. It's about really having friends when let's get real when you become an adult, you really don't have friends like you used to, right, I mean you do, but you don't get to go hang out, you don't get to go I'm gonna go outside and play mom. You don't get to do any of that.
Speaker 3:So it's nice, the big plane goes to the graveyard.
Speaker 2:I never played that. That's creepy as shit, yeah. But that being said, let's go ahead. Let's let you introduce yourself and everything that you do.
Speaker 3:Well, first, thank you for that introduction and really, you know, going on to your lives, there's so much positivity and you're so welcoming, and we do get the trolls in and we have fun with them, but the reason that, like all of us come in is we can see your heart, we can see, like you know, why you do this, and so we truly appreciate you. So thank you.
Speaker 2:I appreciate it. That means that means the world to me. Sorry, I mean to interrupt you, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:No, no, I'm good, I'm good. All right, so so I'm yeah, so. I have a business where I do I get role players for police and fire trainings and then I like moulash them up. So at first when I started to go on tic-tac, I was thinking, okay, maybe I could do like a promo that way and I put a couple videos on that, like we were. We got to have like a news clip or whatever, and but my stuff is kind of too realistic so I kept getting tagged.
Speaker 2:That's freaking awesome though. I mean, be for real. I mean, when you have the realistic stuff, it makes it so much better. I can't tell you how many times I've gone through, you know, when I was going through EMT training, they'd be like, okay, that guy right there has a broken leg, pretend it's broken and you're like, well, which one? And then halfway through they forget which one's broken and you're like, well, fuck, well, fuck, I've split it both legs. I've got one broken leg, we've got two tourniquets on and we don't need tourniquets on all these damn legs. So it's nice that you take the time and do all that.
Speaker 3:And then just our thought process is and I tell all of the first responders that, like before we start participating with them but I'm like you know, you guys train as you play and you guys need it as real as you can so that you don't have that like, oh, what's the phrase? The deer in the headlights?
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I'm like me right now. Like what?
Speaker 3:You put me on the spot.
Speaker 2:Oh shit, I'm in training again. I'm in trouble.
Speaker 3:This just proves, folks, that we don't have a script.
Speaker 2:Oh no, zero, there is no script, but I think it's a lot better this way. I mean yeah if it could be. I'd be like so. You remember? That funny time that we were sitting there on TikTok. We can't do that, that wouldn't be any good.
Speaker 3:No. But so we tell them. We're like we want you guys. And then we tell them and we want you to go hands on, we want you to do the medicine, the training that you guys have done. So when we have them put the tourniquets on for real, you know, we're like go through that muscle memory, because if you've never used a tourniquet it's going to show when you need it the most. And then they look at you and I'm like I'm serious, so and then we'll tell you when it hurts We'll punch you or we'll bring out a character We'll say real world.
Speaker 3:We don't like this. Like chest seals, do a quick March exam or whatever. Whatever their exam that they were trying to do you know, just a non-invasive.
Speaker 3:You know it's not anything like that, but it's getting that muscle memory. So you're not just standing there and staring at the patient and letting them bleed out and then, you know, adding the crying or the. You know it's that that extra stimulus that you guys, when it's something God forbid actually happens, then you can focus on. Okay, I can get that. I can erase it right now out of my mind, I'll deal with it later and I can do my job, so that's.
Speaker 2:See, and that's awesome because you know forever ago. It's crazy how old I'm getting. I'm not liking this. I'm still like a baby.
Speaker 3:I'm older than you.
Speaker 2:But I think of it. So when I first went through EMT school, you didn't use tourniquets, were not something you used unless it was this person's going to die. And then, like they taught us, if you, if you put a tourniquet on, you're going to get necrosis of the veins, all the stuff's going to start dying If you release it, though, instantly die. And I'm like, oh fuck, okay, no tourniquets, never use a tourniquet in my life. So then, when I went through years and years later, I went through law enforcement side and you know, I don't have my EMT license and I don't have any of that now.
Speaker 2:So we're going through law enforcement, first aid, and in this class it was wild, it flew, I was, I was shocked. So we're sitting there in the class and they're going through slides on first aid and I'm like, oh, this is cake. And then all of a sudden, it's like your partner's been shot in the leg. Tourniquet him. You're like, no, I can't do that, dude, like I've taught, but learn this. Okay, I can't. They're like tourniquet. I'm like, okay.
Speaker 2:Then next thing, you know, I'm underneath his desk, up in his crotch area, which is very I wouldn't even get a promotion for this. So it's kind of bullshit. And there I am, underneath the desk, put a tourniquet on and everything. So the fact that you take it to the level where you actually have someone put a tourniquet on is legit, because before that, even this class I took, which was just your buddy next to you, I've never put a tourniquet on somebody because I was so scared for so long. Don't do it, you don't do it, you don't do it. Well, in this class I put so many and you, until you really put one on somebody, you really don't know how hard you need to go.
Speaker 3:Exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2:And that was one thing that was it was flooring me is it was like man. I was always taught no tourniquets, Don't do this, Don't do that. So now I'm doing tourniquets. I'm like running out of time. Hold on a second, I'm not there. I'm saying it shouldn't close off.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't think running out of time. Experience unlimited AI clips plus zoom. One pro initial 15% off of your first year. I think they're just trying to sell me on stuff. I don't, I don't know, Hell, I don't. I got remaining time meeting. I've got nine minutes and 40 seconds. I'm just gonna keep doing this.
Speaker 3:We'll do this, and then we'll make up a new time and we'll do a free, and then we'll just splice it.
Speaker 2:Yes, we'll edit it out later.
Speaker 3:All right, we'll keep doing it.
Speaker 2:I mean, nobody knows, except for everybody's listening to this now, because I'm not going to edit that out. You're going to get to get the full. You get a full thing where I'm over here, like what does it say? Hold on, let me get my glasses on.
Speaker 3:This is good.
Speaker 2:So, again, I don't even have to mute my thing, so you're going to hear me unfortunately off because I don't know how to. I don't know how to stop it on a when I'm doing it alone. So this, this is it, people. This is legit.
Speaker 3:So and he whimpering that you hear on his part is all real.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's going to be a hundred percent real. Every now and then on TikTok I start to tear up Like I'm dead serious when I talk about some of the stuff. I say I'm tearing up, I'm legit tearing up. I'm like man. Ooh, like we had that gentleman that came in the live the other day was talking about he lost both his twin babies on Christmas, like around Christmas, and I was like that stops me. That's something.
Speaker 2:I can't, you don't. I mean, I can't joke about that. There's nothing I couldn't imagine. Being two months away, or a month, even, you know. He said around Christmas, we don't know. I didn't really break it down to them Like well, what time? I'm not going to break it down like that, but the fact that this gentleman was in here and having a good time cutting up and laughing and having a good time with this shows the strength of that person. I don't think I'd be there, and when I says tearing up man, I was, I was legit going shit. I could not imagine that. So whatever you see is is legit. How I am, I know it's how you guys are, so I think it's better to be that way.
Speaker 2:There's so much of this nowadays, men can't cry, but at the same time, if you don't cry now, you're toxic. There's just so much nonsense with everything and that's it's getting to the point. It's just like you can't say anything without offending somebody, as we found out this week. So, yeah, crazy, crazy times. So, yes, all the whimpering, that will legit be me.
Speaker 3:Well, that was so hard too. I was driving on Friday to I hit it like two hour drive for this training, and so I'm listening. And then then there's people that like the trolls are coming in and I'm like, oh, there's so much stuff I want to say.
Speaker 2:So much stuff I want to say.
Speaker 3:So it's hard to listen to you driving yeah. So, badly, just want to go. I could text this really quick, but again I could say so much.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's Friday was a. It was fun. I had a lot of fun. I got messages from a lot of people. Pebble's mommy we talk on a regular basis. She was talking. How much fun it was.
Speaker 2:Everyone had a good time and it sucks because I had to end the live. I ended up having to go straight from there to a signal 30 death and I ended up leaving there and I had to go to court. On the way to court we got another signal 30 death. So it really sucks that people, instead of just if you don't like what I do, don't watch it, that's fine.
Speaker 2:But the fact is I went through having great time on take talk and that really gets my day started. That's why I do it in the morning. That's why it gets my day started, gets me started in a good mood, and I hopefully does that same for other people. That's a whole reason I do it just to go from that to a wife crying that she's just lost her husband, this family. They just got done building a house. The house was just completed and they were living in like a log cabin next door to the house. They just moved out here, out to the country to get away from the city life and all this stuff. And she's crying and she's upset and I'm trying to console her, I'm trying to talk to her. Then at the same time as my wife's first day back, so I had to be her first call. That kind of sucked yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:So to go from such an amazing time to something just so shitty but I still try to stay in a positive mood then just to go something else shitty and other death and then to go to the office to hear my sheriff on the phone with someone that's sitting here trying to get me fired and sued Just because they don't like what I do on TikTok, and that's. It's mind-blowing that people take it to that level that they want to just bring someone down that much so it kills me. So, as I've said recently, I'll no longer be doing them live long duty, just because, to be honest, it takes a toll on me. I know I'm not doing anything wrong. I know I'm doing everything within my agency and everyone's okay with what I do. My sheriff tells me all the time. My sheriff even said about this I'm not worried about it, so don't worry about it. But it really, mentally it just takes a toll on me.
Speaker 2:It's like man, I feel like I'm doing something wrong, Even though I'm not. And then this guy got ahold of the DA, got ahold of everybody, so now everybody's up in arms. So it's just like man. I'm gonna have to take a break from it. At least take a break from doing that live long duty, which sucks, because I really need everybody, I need y'all. It helps me so much. I don't have money for counselors, I don't have money to go do all these other things, so it helps me knowing that I help everybody. Somebody else, not everybody else. That sounds very conceited.
Speaker 3:No, but you have messages like on those lives where you're like dude, I needed this, I needed this. So it's community policing, so they're at its best. It's like a coffee with a cup, you know, and I'm sure there are people who are like why are they in my coffee shop? You?
Speaker 2:know, but now it's on a different level 100% and to take it to that level is that's what drives me nuts. It's like you took it to the level of you know you're trying to. I did nothing to this guy except block him because he kept asking what agency. I already knew who he was before I even got it. Looked into it. I could tell by who he was, what he was saying, the kind of stuff a person he was going to be. I didn't think he'd take it to the level calling the DA, calling the courthouse, calling the commissioners, calling everybody. Everybody is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I didn't even say anything. I didn't want to block you because he called me a coward for not saying where I'm at. But to take it to that level is just wild to me. Just wild. I did nothing to this guy. You could just go watch something you like instead of this. But you took it to the level of trying to take it to everybody. And the thing that sucks a lot is, you know, my sheriff's okay with it, a lot of the people are okay with it.
Speaker 2:But I have people that have known I've been doing TikTok lives for a while Act like they never knew now and it's like come on, man, I don't know if I'm gonna be like that, just be like, okay, I'd appreciate you not doing that anymore and I'd be like, okay, I understand, but they're like you were doing that, like you knew I was doing that, you knew I was doing this whole time. And now you're taking to level oh well, you probably shouldn't be doing that. It's like, come on man, like this whole time you've known I've been doing it this whole time. You laugh, and they've used me as a person in town where they go deputy Dan's going to be there to bring extra people to events and stuff.
Speaker 2:I don't think I am, but there are people in the community that like watching the videos and they come up and tell me they like it. So they're like, oh, debbie, did anybody there? Sure, I'll go, and it's like you had no problem using me for that. But now that something negative comes up, you want to turn your back and it's sad. How many law enforcement officers nationwide that's happening to? Mine's? Very small, very small, but if you look at some of these big cases, these officers are thrown to the wolves and there's nothing they can do about it and it's sad. It's a bad, bad deal.
Speaker 3:No, I know you were saying that. You know, talking it out like and like working through it used to be taboo, you know, years ago you guys wouldn't talk about it at all. You just suck it in and you know, and then that's the more the PTSD and the stuff going on. So it's good, it's huge, that you guys find an outlet, you know, or at least talk to each other.
Speaker 2:And they just say you know, you know, yeah, a hundred percent, and that's. And there's so many men that still hold it in. There's so many. First, not women too, not just men, there's women. I've worked with amazing women and they hold it in and a lot of them hold it in better than any man, but it's it's just.
Speaker 2:Tiktok is my outlet. I don't have the availability. Everyone say go, do, stand up and stuff. To be honest, for the longest time I put it off because I'm scared, and I still am. So, as part of it is, I have a family. You know I don't have time to go to open mic nights in the middle of the night. Still work a full time job, still take care of the family and do everything. I mean, I could do it if I want to be a deadbeat dad and not have my wife, but that's not what I want to do. So it sucks that. My outlet is this, because it's the only thing I do have, you know, and I've looked into having the followers I have and the fun we have and it helps me as much as help anybody else. Yeah, well, actually okay, it's almost up, so let's, I guess we'll stop this one and do another one, maybe, or maybe I can update it.
Speaker 3:Let's continue in just a little bit. Let's eat, so let's just. We can edit this baby part out if we have to. But I wonder if they're going to cut you off. All right, folks, how is? There's like a countdown?
Speaker 2:It's when now it says it was a countdown. Now it says less than a minute. What does that even mean? What it's just telling me? Less than a minute? I mean, holy shit, what. How much it is to like God. No, then knock it off. Then turn off. Okay, recording on this computer here. Oh, recording in progress. Yeah, zoom meeting 40 minutes. Well, this is going to be our second part to this, this whole shindig, since the first one ended.
Speaker 3:I got a part two.
Speaker 2:Welcome back. It's been so long.
Speaker 3:How have you been?
Speaker 2:It's been great. I mean, I technically been on the phone with you as we're trying to figure this out, because I can't figure this stuff out anymore.
Speaker 3:Technology am I right? I know right. I have to call in my son. He's my tech advisor for like I need help.
Speaker 2:I can't figure it out. Okay, so we were talking about the guy and the life. Oh, yeah, so, homeboy, that turned me in. Did you look at that Google case I sent you?
Speaker 3:I started looking at it yesterday.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I mean you can't even make this up, right? I'm like dude, legit. I won't say his name on here or anything, no. But we have a first minute auditor. He pops into our TikTok live all the time and even him was like man, he's doing the wrong thing, he's going for the wrong people and then he even told me I looked into him he goes. I'm pretty big in the community of first minute auditors. He's like I have respect for cops, I couldn't do it and all this stuff. He goes. But this guy's going about it wrong. He's like he's a nobody, he didn't have a following and what it is he's one of those ones that I noticed that I've talked about before is they are pretty much guys that have been arrested and they don't like the fact they are arrested. So from that point now they're going to go hay down every cop and he was fried.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, 100%. You have the nerve and audacity to block him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, to block him. And he says, yeah, well, they're going to turn it into that this is a government entity and I can't block people. I've had that one before and it's like, yes, yes, I can. I can. Well, you have to tell me your badge number. No, I don't, it's three anyway. And when I tell people that they're like you're lying, I'm like, then why are you even asking me, dude? Well, it has to be like six numbers.
Speaker 2:No, it doesn't. That's big, big agencies. We're an agency of 12 people, so why the hell am I going to have 3,496, as our badge number Doesn't make any sense?
Speaker 3:Because that would be cool.
Speaker 2:I mean I guess the badge number 3996, 3,496, can you respond? But it would be no, no. And technically.
Speaker 2:I do have four numbers on my badge, but three is all you have to say. My badge number is three, that's it. I was just like come on, dude, but yeah. So he called the DA's office, called the county commissioners, did all that and again, like I said, there's people that have known I've been doing this, and then they just turned it back on you as soon as something negative comes up. Um, what I love is I was looking at his page and he had sent the same thing he sent to us, which the Freedom Information Act, all that stuff like that. He sent it to this agency and they say she's like sure, we'll look into everything you want, but we're going to charge you $24,000 to do so. Yeah, and I was like hell, yeah, we couldn't even get our people to charge 50 bucks.
Speaker 3:We're like just tell people, All police departments, if all police departments would do that 100%, 100%.
Speaker 2:And the thing is it's like I have nothing to hide, but it's like if you wanted this bad, then you're going to have to show you want it. I'm not saying charts, I'm a $24,000, but even if you put a hundred dollar fee on it, a $50 fee, you know. Anywhere else I go for and I get records of anything I have to pay I have to pay like a $25 printing fee or whatever it is.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But ours. They won't do that. They're just going to send it to them Like whatever, I don't care. Um, it is what it is, but whatever, we'll see where it goes with it. I don't, I don't know. Um, this, that thing is is like I've never seen our social media policy For our agency. My sheriff's just told me oh no, you're fine, you can do it, you're fine. And I was like, oh, can I see the policy? Oh, you're fine, and I'm like all right, whatever. And I kept doing it. So it kind of find out if there is against the policy. I don't know what that's going to mean. I mean it's not going to mean in trouble with the office, but they'll just tell me no more doing it. Right.
Speaker 2:Um, it definitely think it'll change this next year if it's in there. But like, all right, we're changing stuff that way. This can go and we don't. We don't ever have this again.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:And this what kills me is it's like I pulled over three cars that day. Not one of those information got out, nobody's name got out, everything was muted. Um, I was doing my job, but you still get, still get hate. But he's also the same guy that's going to cry that you're not transparent, even though you're being transparent. So you're going to have those people now, no matter what. And it's just the point that I'm I'm kind of saying I'm going to have to take a break.
Speaker 2:It gets old. It dealing with it just over and over and over. It's it's getting old. So and what sucks is? It? Just sucks for a lot of people that they need it as much as I do.
Speaker 2:So, it is. It is what it is. Um, I don't know. Some of the questions I get on there blows my mind, though, like I am nobody, I am not Miss America, trying to go for everything and be like well, I think that we need to stop world peace. I don't know, I don't know and like no matter what, you're not going to make everybody happy. What's your thoughts on Texas? So this is my thought. Oh, you're a piece of shit. Well, this is my thought. Oh, you're now this, and it's like, damn dude, like don't ask my opinion. Then, exactly, Exactly.
Speaker 2:I'm. I'm a lot of opinion and, like the people that thinks it's wrong, that's fine, that's your opinion, you know you. You think it's wrong. Some people think it's right. Do you think it's right? It is what it is and it's it kills me because people think, just cause I'm a cop, that I have to side with a government at all times, that and someone is like, well, you can't hate the government 100%. I can, and it's not that I hate the government. I don't trust the government. Right.
Speaker 2:Um, you're state local guys. We are not attached to the government at buy. I mean we are to an extent, I mean, but we got in this job for not that. We got on this job to help people. We got on this job for whatever. Some people got in this job to say they can jump out of a helicopter. I don't know, we don't do that. Where I'm at we don't have that kind of funding. But everyone's like oh well, you have to side with it. Well, could I not side technically with Texas, Cause that's a government entity, so I don't know, it's wild, wild times, wild time.
Speaker 3:I mean as a community member like I'm I'm not LEO, I'm not medic, I have like BLS training and basic first aid whatever. But it's that everybody thinks that they know what you guys go through. They have no clue. So my group, what I like is I don't have like I have awesome people, who, who can act and who can and do stuff. But a lot of my role players are they're just community members who want to help, like the first responders, train so and I I make a point of that because then we'll be introduced. Well, we've got these actors here. And then when I start talking, I'm like, okay, first of all, we're not actors. Some of them, yes, they are actors and they are like they do the community theaters, they do like you know, our big city plays and stuff. But I say we are role players. One because I don't want to get in trouble with the guild. They're not actors. I just I tell them I'm like, okay, are you a screamer or are you quiet? If you're quiet, I'm killing you off.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean you're going unconscious and you're just going to reach out to me.
Speaker 3:If you're a screamer, scream. If you cry, cry, go to your natural ability. So it's just funny.
Speaker 2:I love it and it needs and that's awesome that you bring these people in, because they're getting these, these roles that you're giving them. They're getting these things and they're realizing, oh shit, they really deal with this in real life and some of them probably don't realize that. They don't realize that we're dealing with people either. Like you say, you like to play a crazy person from time to time. I like doing that too.
Speaker 2:Yes, I love doing that too. It's fun. And it's fun to go into, like these newer academies and help them. See, we can go to our academy and we can help them. I live near the State Academy so I can go in on my days off and I can go in during the training where they go through all the scenarios and stuff and you can act. And it's good because it's even these guys going to the academy.
Speaker 2:They don't realize this is what you're gonna deal with. It's not gonna be what you see on TV. It's gonna be some person that is not breaking the law, that's doing nothing wrong, but is having a mental episode. So you can't just go arrest everybody just because you think they're intoxicated or you think that they've done something wrong. And that's some of the funnest ones to do is throw something out in there that they're they can't arrest. Throw something in there that there's no reason for you to arrest this person. Why are you bugging them? And then they're like oh, I didn't think about it that way.
Speaker 2:You know, I got put in my place when I was going through it by a guy and he was doing the whole thing and I was like, yeah, you're not really doing anything wrong, so there's really no reason for me to be here. He's like but let me ask something Now. To the behind him, to the left, was a chair with a gun on it. So I just slowly moved my way over there and he's like, why did you go over there? And I said, yes, you're doing nothing wrong. But at the same time I saw the gun over there and I don't know what you're gonna do. And he's like well, that's why I put it there. You did a good job on that and stuff like that.
Speaker 2:It's like yeah, you don't have to arrest everybody. I don't arrest a whole lot of people. I arrest people that deserve to go to jail. There's a lot of time like, hey, man, let's get you home, let's not deal with this shit, let's get you home, we'll give them a ride, I'll call someone, whatever it is. But you know, even on that or the medical side, everyone thinks that EMTs are the only ones that deal with these things. Right, not realizing cops. We get to a lot of these things before anybody else does, because in my area I respond to whatever to an extent. I mean, if someone's having nausea or something, I'm not going to that unless I can tell by the call there's more to it. But if there's something where like CPR might be administered, they're gonna need help lifting somebody or whatever it is, I'm still gonna go.
Speaker 2:And people don't realize that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we purposefully. But when we do our CIT scenarios and we team up, we do a scenario where you know it's a well well fair check on a mother because the daughter called in and she's like she sounds drunk but I can't get there and she's frail and whatnot. So we need somebody to go and check on her. When they get there, she's presenting like she's drunk, turns out she's having a sugar, but they have to work it through and they have to see what clues we've put around the room and whatnot. And she slammed the door on them.
Speaker 3:I love it so, but and then, what was awesome? The first, for the first time. So we go to this college. They have this whole police training village with movable walls. So that's where we do it. But then the one teacher or officer who was teaching the cadets, they had like one more month and then they were going to be sworn or graduated or how I don't know yeah.
Speaker 3:But anyway. So and she's like okay, I need you, because they're at that point and I guess anybody who's law enforcement that's listening to this it's like you guys are in the Academy, you will have one more month and you're getting that, that edgy, or whatever. And so she's like I need, I need you to go in, so I'm ad-living and I go in and I have a way on and she like we timed it.
Speaker 3:She left the room because they were talking about like critical incident stuff or crisis intervention stuff. And then so I come in and I pretend like I'm supposed to be in this math class and then all of a sudden I start crying. I'm like burst into tears, like real tears for him, and I'm like, oh, my life's over, you don't understand kids. I call them kids. They're like oh yeah, I mean yeah so little now.
Speaker 3:Um, you guys, young police officers, um, but they, they, at first they were standoffish, and there was one, of course, that like said a joke, but it was more, I think, of a defense.
Speaker 3:I mean so that's me, that's me, but then he was the one that was like Okay. He realized, oh my gosh, this is, this is serious. And then they were going to help me. They're going to walk me to the class. They were like consoling me and stuff. And then so they walked me to my car and told me what building I was supposed to go. Then, when I came back in, they're like there was something.
Speaker 1:I knew it was not real, but it felt real, but that's just it.
Speaker 2:They'll remember that, that they've been 100% human, yeah, and I love the fact that someone used humor to get that, because that's how some people deal with it. Different ways you have. Some guys will shut down, right.
Speaker 2:You have some guys will turn to anger and you have some people. I have to use humor. I use humor to get through a lot of stuff. When I was going through the academy, we were going through SFSTs. You know. See, people are drunk doing all that stuff and the only way that I remembered it is I was doing accents as I was going through it. I'll do an accent and the people would laugh, which would cause me to go. I remember this. And then I'd sit there and I'd oh the nystagmus, and I'd talk about everything, but I would say all in accents, like for one time I did like Peter Griffin and it was just fun to do it that way, but at the same time it instilled in me Now I know it, I can start it, I know what to say, I know what I'm looking for because of that. So the fact that someone's using humor, I like that person already, cause I mean that's, that's me.
Speaker 3:That's it and it's it. There are different approach, different officers have different approaches, and if your approach isn't working, as long as you can, you know, curb your pride and like let somebody else jump in. Then things can like not go to the next level. And if joking's working or sometimes it's that joke that just kind of, instead of having to go knock it off, you know that sometimes you yell and you have to say stop you know, or you know, you get them out of their head and then 100% and, until you deal with it, regular basis, you don't see it.
Speaker 2:So the fact that you're taking the time to do that in this class and this training it, it's mind blowing, cause, to be honest, I would rather an agency like yours come in and do our academies. Cause what we have at our academies sometimes we have officers that just graduated the academy before they don't have experience on the streets like they think they do, and they come in and they do these role playing and they they take it the next level like they're a drill instructor. We had an academy when I was going through. We had a guy that graduated two academies before me, very, very uptight. You would swear to God he was in Vietnam. The way he would try to act. He's seen everything, done everything in this in six months. He's done everything in the world.
Speaker 2:Um, we got called to a domestic is what our scene was. The wife meets us at the door, hysterical. She says the husband's on the couch, he's passed out, he'd been beating her and was waving a gun around. Well, my partner goes in and my partner at this time. He's never been on the street. I had already been on the street for six months before going to the academy. In our state you can go up to six months, um, before even going to the academy. So I kind of did my FTO before. Well, he's never been on the streets, he's never. He didn't have ambitions because he works inside of a jail he was never going to. He just has to go through it to get his commission card so he can carry a gun, which cool, no problem.
Speaker 2:So my partner goes in and I'm talking to the wife and I see a shotgun behind the wife. So I kind of blader off in the shotgun stopper. My partner goes over to the guy on the couch and I was like, hey, man, keep an eye on him. And the guy's faking being asleep. I was like, keep an eye on him, keep an eye on him. Hey, he's moving, he's reaching, he's reaching. But at this time I still have this wife behind me with a shotgun. So I drew my gun and I'm yelling at the guy from behind the couch.
Speaker 2:My partner gets shot, I shoot the guy and then the woman gets us distraught and tries to get the shotgun. Well, they say scenario over, whatever it was, timeout, red apples, whatever the hell the shit was at that point. And then the dude comes over and starts getting in my face screaming at. He's like you just let your fucking partner get killed. What the fuck are you thinking? And like went off and just going off. I was like listen, dude, like there's a shotgun back here. I knew if I would have come for you she would have shot me in the back. I tried to tell my partner keep an eye on him. I had my gun drawn, but where I was at my advantage I couldn't see a gun get drawn. But I was like hey man, he's moving, he's reaching, he's reaching. I've grabbed my gun. I told my partner to keep an eye on it. But my partner got shot and he's like Well, you fucking failed your partner, you're a failure and went on those stuff. Well, I can take it to an extent.
Speaker 2:I was like Listen, you better get the fuck out of my face. Dude Like. I'm done.
Speaker 2:Like I did my scenario shut the fuck up, give me whatever score you want to give me, I'm done, I'm not gonna talk to you. He kept yelling and then finally I was like I'm telling you right now, get out of my face, it's gonna be not bad. Well, one of the instructors walked in and she was like hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, stop, what's going on. So I explained it. He explained his side. Well, then she gave me a passing grade. He tried to fail me and later on she's like you were gonna beat the shit out of him.
Speaker 2:I was like 100%, I was, I go. I was at that point Like I did everything. I took my criticism but cussing at me and screaming at me, a bunch of front of people that's not a place to do this. I going to be honest, he doesn't know what he's doing. I go. I could, if I would have come up there, shoot a shot me and she already said that was my goal is, if you moved in front, I was gonna shoot you, right. It was kind of the same as having somebody. That's not cops. There's a lot of good cops and there's a lot of cops. We all have type A mentalities, everyone. We all think we're better than the other guy. It happens Really Shocking, yeah Shocker.
Speaker 3:We all think we all think we're the best.
Speaker 2:I get it all the time. A lot of people hate me. I love it, but I was just like this guy took it to the next level. I was like he's too much and come to find out the end of it. A lot of people are having the same issues with them he was just taking stuff to the next level.
Speaker 2:Where is you have somebody that comes in that acts it and does it and then can give you criticism All I needed? You could have screamed at me, I would have taken it hey man, what the fuck was this? But then when you started telling me I'm a failure and I let my friend get killed and your piece of shit and all this stuff, because he pretty much told me, I left my partner to be hung to dry, I'm like to be honest. My partner should have helped himself. Like I can only do so much, but at the same time we both would have been shot by homegirl with a shotgun if I didn't.
Speaker 2:So it's nice to have an outside agency come in, because some of these cops, man, especially these adjuncts that just graduated, they're bad. Some of the worst of them is going through defensive tactics or DT, which is just two weeks of getting thrown to the ground. Get up, throw your butt to the ground. Get up, throw to the ground. And it's eight hours, 10 hours a day of two weeks of just this shit and it sucks. You get handcuffs slapped on you.
Speaker 3:I'm not signing up for that. We don't do that. Oh it sucks.
Speaker 2:It is rough. It is rough. I mean even some of the guys that are like completely physical fit, because it's not, it's just a thing of getting thrown down, get up, go down, get up, go down.
Speaker 3:You have to do that though.
Speaker 2:You have to.
Speaker 3:I mean I, you have to. Pain hurts me but that's why I'm not a police officer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm at the end. Your wrists are bloodied, you're tired, but then, like, those adjuncts are the worst because you have guys that are trying to become. It's called DTI in my state, which is the defensive tactics constructor. These guys have to train people. Well, these guys take the next level. They just want you to be 100 miles an hour the whole time. You can't do that, dude, you're gonna kill somebody. This isn't right. Like chill out and then like it sucks because once you get through it, once you're towards the end, on your last day, if you get hurt, you have to redo the whole two weeks. Yeah, well, that last day I'd been thrown to the ground and thrown into everybody. The ground's so bad I had my elbow locked up. So on the day of training, the last day of our test day, I'm walking around like this and my buddy's like dude, sorry.
Speaker 2:I was like nah, bro, like throw me, throw me down, I don't give a fuck. Like we're getting through this, I go, you throw me down. I don't care about the pain If I make a noise, just keep going. You're passing and I'm passing. I got done and like I couldn't move my arm for a week I was like holy shit, this is bad. But yeah, restarting. No, my sheriff had to restart. She injured her knee in a second week and she was like no, I'm good.
Speaker 1:And they're like no, you need to go to the doctor.
Speaker 2:She's like no, I'm good they sent her to the doctor and they made her redo it all.
Speaker 3:Oh see, no, Well, that's like. So my group, when we come in, I purposefully like, because I had. We worked with one of the area SWAT teams and all they were instructed to do. I had people in the library and they were supposed to be the victim, be scared. But when the SWAT team says, you know, come on, just like, put your hands up and go right, do what you're told to do. But one of them he was like ex-military or whatever he decides he's put going to teach them a lesson, he's putting you know scissors in his sock and he's throwing like staple. I found out later. I'm like, luckily, I knew that the lead of the SWAT team and I'm like, oh my gosh, I am so sorry.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm like sorry, dude.
Speaker 3:I mean. So I have to specifically every single time. I have to say, okay, you are not their trainer, okay, we are there for a purpose and a goal. I will give you specific instructions. You follow those instructions. If they ask you for your opinion, you do not give them their like. You are not their FTO, you are not their person. You tell them how it made you feel as a community member. You know and you talk about what you know, because we are not their instructors and we even so, we've been doing the CIT long enough, like now I can say some stuff Like I like that you guys like stayed in the doorway, didn't come in the room.
Speaker 3:You guys kept yourself, like tactically, where you needed to be to keep yourself safe. But I prefaced it with I am a community member and I am only saying this because I've seen 3,000 other officers go through and do this scenario and I've heard, and then I look at the officer that's in the lead and I'm like and he can correct me if I'm wrong but I liked this part of it because then you were safe. But yeah, I won't let them they were not allowed to like say you did that wrong Because we even this is your safe learning environment. You have to F up here because if you.
Speaker 3:If you, we would rather you F up here safe learning and not out Yep, 100%, 100% and that, and that's the thing.
Speaker 2:Even then, like I said, if he would have left it, you know, give me an ass chewing and be done with it I'd be like okay, but the fact is like you're nobody in general too. It's like now you're taking the next level, Like come on, dude.
Speaker 3:Or or you guys goof off with each other, oh yeah. It's me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, 100%. Oh yeah, that's fine. We like doing stuff like that and sometimes you're like come on, dude, just go with it, calm down.
Speaker 2:Putting a thing on me. Yeah, I like to do it a lot because it's a lot of fun, but I also like, if someone mess ups, I'd rather just pull them aside by hey man, this is where you messed up, this is what you can need to fix and this is what I think you're lacking on. I think you can learn a lot better than that. That's just me. Some people learn by getting screamed at I don't know. My thing is, I've had rookies that have come through where they're very lackadaisical or, and they'll ask me these things and I'll answer the question and then they'll do it again and I'm like okay, dude, let's work on this and needs to be worked on. And they'll do it again. And then finally, eventually I'm not gonna lie after a while I'm an asshole I'm like listen, dude, what the hell? I've told you seven times what do we need to do on this type of call. Yes, they're all different, but at the same time, a lot of these calls are kind of the same. You deal with the same stuff. They're all a little bit different, but you should have a general knowledge of okay, I've been on this many domestics. Let's handle the domestic like this until goes the next level and then we'll do this.
Speaker 2:The next level this guy was a what if guy. Well, what if this happens? Well, we'll cross that bridge when we get there. Well, what, we'll cross that out. We could do what ifs all day. We could say what if an alien ship landed down in the middle of it and started zapping people? I don't fucking know, dude, we'll figure that when it gets there. Um, and I don't know, it's crazy like, but he was also one. I'd be like what is your ambition? I Was like what do?
Speaker 2:you, what are you doing your days off asleep? I was, I did. You got to have some kind of desire in life, but everyone's like, oh, he's young. I'm like he's 26 years old by the time I was his age. I had a house, I had a full-time career, I was working on things. I mean, yeah, I'm still immature mentally, but at the same time, I have goals, I have ambitions. Like he's got to find something. Well, he's no longer with us. He's a good kid. It's just this one for him. He, he didn't. He had no drive. You have to have a drive in a first responder world. I mean, yes, we have a lot of downtime, yes, we have a lot of this, but you still have to have a drive to do something in that downtime. You know, at least try to better yourself in one aspect, like, even if it's just sitting on the side of the road watching a YouTube on Something that'll help you a little bit, you got to have some kind of drive.
Speaker 3:If you don't, you're just gonna be, you're dead weight and you're just hurting your partners so that there was one instructor that Used to come in and he would always say like to each of the groups and they were from different agencies or whatnot. And he's like okay, so you guys, we're gonna go through this, and if you see somebody screw up, talk, talk about it. You're not putting them down. But if you don't mention it and you just say you know I'm gonna keep my this is, you know I'm gonna keep myself quiet, then you have, you have Part in that game. So if that same guy goes and does the same thing out there and You're kind of in on that, so talk and yeah, so that kind of I like that, you know it's that.
Speaker 3:And then my community members or my role players, they get to see the human side, to a hundred percent it's like and that's what I like too is that it's they see how long it's gonna take an officer to get in and and you know that they're gonna pass up people who are shot to go. Stop the threat, mm-hmm, I mean, it has to be done that they can't stop and fix everybody yet, but they're gonna secure that area and lock down this area so that they can bring the medicine and stuff. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2:I think that's. I think that's awesome on both sides. I think it's awesome for the cops getting the mentality of what really can happen. But just for Public to see how stressful this can be. And if you have people really screaming and, yeah, people going, oh my god, I'm dying, I'm dying why aren't you stopping? That puts everybody on mentality going oh shit, this is legit, this is stressful. You know, I've had guys walk out of trainings because they're like I can't, I can't do it, this is too much. But I would rather you say that then go, I got this and then freak the fuck out and kill somebody or let somebody be killed. So that's I like it. I like what you're doing. I wish every state had a lot of that.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so, and I have people like I'm I'm the only one that well, not the only one, I'm sure there's others out there, but I have that ended or departments that I build up my, my Reputation, that, like a lot of people or officers know me it's weird, another training and they're like, oh Great, no, but it's it's that I would love to be able to like start Like little things and then, there's like you should, you should, charge a lot of money and you should, you know, capitalize on it, and I'm like, yeah, I could, but it's not about the money.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I mean you got to make a living but at the same time we're not trying to get rich off of it.
Speaker 3:Well, that's just it, and it's if I can help you guys. It's kind of selfish, because if I help you guys train, then you guys come and save me better.
Speaker 2:So a hundred percent. It's. A hundred percent, I mean it's selfish, as I can't know that's why I like to take talk as myself is.
Speaker 2:It's like another people's life. It helps me. So I understand, I get you, I understand, you know and, in general, just helps everybody and you don't realize how much of an aspect and how much of an asset you are. You're helping a lot of people without these people even knowing you're doing that. If you're not out there doing that, you would For people freeze, cops freeze. I remember when I was young, on the fire department a long fuck time ago, I got tired of training. I was like I'm tired, this is ridiculous. I'm tired, I'm done, done doing this. I'm really. I mean, I did it but I just was like this sucks, I have better things I could be doing my time. I'm tired and I don't remember I just one day clicked I was like oh Cuz, I got down, I get, went to a call and I was doing shit without realizing I was doing it right and I got done, I'm like oh, I did do all that, didn't I?
Speaker 2:and you're like oh, the muscle memory is a legit deal. It's huge right after I got out of the Academy and we are putting tourniquets on everybody, I got a stabbing and a shooting guys shoots a dude. The dude got stabbed and the whole deal. I didn't get in there. I was like Oprah of tourniquets. It's like fuck yeah, you get a tourniquet.
Speaker 2:You get a kid and then I'm over here just putting tourniquets on everybody and it was like, oh Well, shit, it really does work. I understand training now. I mean, I knew it a long time ago and I Try to tell my people you've got a train in my area. We were lucky enough that it's a small area. We know all the people in the school. They've given us keys, so Every now and then we get to. Pretty much it's like going to play an adult hide-and-seek. It's a lot of fun.
Speaker 2:I get to go hide the corner and then they get to come find me. Yeah, I love it, it's fantastic. We'll go do that. Well, you should do it. Um, we're doing it once a month.
Speaker 2:We go to different school one night out of the month, but then it turned into the whole. Like I said earlier, I can do a better, I can do a better. Well, my buddy was the one that was heading it up. Well, he's the one talk to schools. He's the one that set everything up. You know, he went through SWAT school. He did all the stuff. So he's trying to bring it back and give it to everybody.
Speaker 2:But then someone else like well, I've been to more SWAT school, I know better than you. Well then, train like, help us, like, let's grow this. Then it got into pissing match. No one started going because there's just drama and we're trying to get that going again Just because the way that our climate's headed and that it's getting crazy our schools are. It's happening all the time.
Speaker 2:So those guys that were the, the ones that had always have the bigger dick, they're no longer at our agency. We've got a rid of a lot of them. Our agency now is a bunch of good people that I trust. Yeah, I know what everybody's strengths are. I know who can do what, who I can rely on for this one, rely on for that. And we have grown our agency to be one of the best agencies we've had in a long time. There's nobody there trying to say, hey look, I can do better than you. We've had a bunch of these people that we've had over the years when I was coming up with agency and I'd ask questions and they'd be like we'll figure it out, and you're like well, I can't figure it out if I don't have any training right.
Speaker 2:So my buddy, he's running for sheriff and Me and him kind of. He was my trainer, but he had never been trained Besides what you learn in the academy, so you don't learn enough at the academy. You learn enough to get hurt. So you'd learn everything on the streets. And that's what kills me. Is everybody in the media saying, well, they don't have enough training. Do? There's only so much school work that you can do? That's gonna help you. So he had to learn on his own. I pretty much had to learn on my own with him. He taught me what he did know, but we've had to teach ourselves throughout the whole time. So like. So he's running for sheriff this next time and then if he gets sheriff I'll be his under sheriff. And we are already kind of I love our sheriff we have now.
Speaker 2:She's amazing, she's just kind of she's she's tired, she's tired. She's been doing a long time. She's a great woman. She's a. She responds any call we go on. She responds to calls that you don't call her on. She listens to radio 24-7. She's a working sheriff. It's just she's she's done. She can't. She's tired of the politics, she's tired of it. And then in our area she's a woman so she hadn't got the respect that she deserves. She's an amazing, amazing woman.
Speaker 2:I've had nothing but love and respect, for she'd been amazing. But she's kind of already. She's already kind of handed the reins off to my buddy and I just to really change where we're going and We've already implemented a lot of stuff. We're trying to do stuff, and then that's why this guy's kind of hit me so hard, calling the agency, calling the commissioners and stuff is it's like I'm not trying to screw over my buddy Because me and him are so close and everybody knows me and him are close if you say something about me, he's gonna let me know.
Speaker 2:If you say something about him, I'm let him know. So I'm not trying to have my bad publicity from tick tock. Screw him over, and that's kind of one of the things that's good to hold on me and I was like man.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, you just take a break for a while and and yeah, I mean it's not, you're not doing anything wrong.
Speaker 2:No, and what his his argument was and he told my sheriff is I'm using my county equipment for personal gains, such as t-shirt sales. I haven't sold those t-shirts in forever and we are all mad.
Speaker 2:I'm about to start, I'm working on it, I'm trying to grow everything I've got so much in the works I'm trying to get, but on a limited budget, you know. And then I'm not to be honest. It's very tempting to be one of these guys for like a month that do climbing these ranks and sit there and try to do it Just to get enough money that I could build my studio I needed. I could get me a crown Vic where I could do videos in my driveway and nobody would know. Um, I just can't do it. I, I can't. Nothing against them. I got a lot of friends that do it. I just can't sell myself to doing it.
Speaker 3:Um, I will give enough. You have a good enough following that like for the interim, even if you go on like off duty times and sit in your car In your yard. Those are, lives are fun. See, that's a have your badge. You don't have anything.
Speaker 2:That's why I want to just sit in my car.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to buy like an old crown Vic just to do that. Yeah, just to have an old crown Vic, it'll. I mean, I can put it in my driveway, it'll run, I can have the same red light and I'll just do videos and then when people get pissed off, I can just laugh about it even more. Um, I said my agency is fine with what I do. Um, what people realize is the one a lot of my stuff I do in my driveway. You know there's some in the mornings when I do um on duty, but right, there's a lot I do in my driveway.
Speaker 2:Um, these cars, we have so much stuff hooked up to them, so much that I go out daily and I start my car and I let it run a little while to make sure my batteries don't die, because Last thing I need is my battery to die. And then I got to jump it when I get an emergency call and I got to go. You know I get called out all the time. Last thing I need is my battery be dead. So, yes, I go start my car in the driveway. Well, you're using counted gas? Yeah, I am, but if I can't respond Because my car is dead, because I'm gonna draw, drew, no matter what you can't win on the whole aspect of exactly no, somebody's gonna find something, something to cry about and then, like the thing was selling my t-shirts I mean, this dude had to go back to my dedicated lines.
Speaker 2:Videos where I put the shirts on the hood is the only thing I can think of Right back when I was selling it. Well, had my dedicated lines going hard? Um, I put the shirts on the hood of my car with my lights going, yeah, but it's like, bro, I test my lights all the time to make sure they're working. So like, yeah, I took a video of it. So what, I don't sit there. I wasn't going. Okay, action into 37 minutes of Nope, that wasn't good. Nope, that's what you can tell by the videos. They're not pro videos, it's just me going Well, there's a t-shirt I'll take that. There wasn't A certain amount of time, so I don't know, no matter what someone's gonna be.
Speaker 3:If that was your goal. You're the worst salesman ever.
Speaker 2:I'm telling you, I'm telling I'm terrible salesman, I don't want. I feel dirty, I feel dirty, I'm like hey, go check out my podcast.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's why I do the commercial.
Speaker 2:See, if you do it, then I can, I can have fun with it. I can go oh, okay, yeah, you're right, but I can't. I'm not, I'm not a good salesman. The dedicated line stuff I'd be like yeah, go check it, go check. Uh, yeah, go check it out. Yeah, I'm not good. I just don't do self-promotion. I don't like it. I feel weird. Yeah, I feel dirty. I just feel like I'm.
Speaker 3:I don't know it just shows you're not out for the money and you're not using county money to Tell your and make a profit. I mean even the money that you did raise. It went towards.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the, the advocacy center, yeah, but he didn't take the time to look at that. He didn't take the time to look at that. He didn't take the time to look that we've given homeless guys tents. Um, you know, take time that we've donated to shop with a cop. He just says he's receiving money on tick talk and he's he's double dipping.
Speaker 2:I've looked at every federal law I can find. I've looked at every law I can find and I cannot find when I'm violating anything. And if I am, but the love of God somebody pointed out, because I'm not trying, I'm not personally going out there Trying to be get millions of dollars to quit my job to do, yeah, I mean. I mean I would love to do me wrong if it ever I've got famous on something. I I mean, yeah, I would. But I'm not trying to sit here and screw over everything. You know I've given money to our county. Some of the money I made I've given to the county, so it's going back to the county. There's so many people that pop in on our lives that are from our county that nobody knows.
Speaker 3:The county owes you a lot of money from you're trying to go on a week vacation Three weeks in a row, oh yeah, but they don't pay attention to that Right?
Speaker 2:Oh, they don't pay attention. They don't pay attention that a lot of those days I'm coming in two, three hours early. You know I wake up early. I'd rather get in, get my day going, and there's a lot of days I don't leave on time. I stay late because my guy's on a call. I'm not going to leave him go. What my time's up. That's not how it goes.
Speaker 2:And, and I don't claim that time. So, yes, I'm on duty because technically, legally, you have to be on duty, but I'm not getting paid for it. You know, I'm pretty much salaried at 40 hours. Um, I can get some over time and that's it just. It just blows my mind that people, instead of trying to get to the bottom of and ask questions, they're just going to go. What about this? You're like, okay, well, I will show you how many hours. If he wants to break it down, I'll show him how many hours I Plain that day and I'll show him the times on the radio that I clocked in and the time that I went off duty. As soon as I go 10 8, I'm on. As soon as I go 10 7, I'm done. I didn't get to go 10 7, I go 10 10, which means I'm on call.
Speaker 2:You know my lunch is I don't get lunch breaks. What if this is my lunch break? So I mean, it's just just wild. People just want a bitch about stupid shit. Oh shit, our time's up again. We'll have to. We're gonna have to start this again. Okay, I'll give you a call. Hold on.
Speaker 2:Maybe, yeah, we're figuring this as we go, so luckily I'm using my OBS to also record. And then this I can't use my Audacity record though, so oh well, this will work. We're worried. I don't even remember, I don't know. Do you have any questions or anything, or are you anything you want to talk about? I?
Speaker 3:don't know. I was just like I liked we were just talking while we were waiting for everyone. I didn't have everything to download. Yeah, you know the gift giving and the like, money grabbing and like I'm excited that I think I have like 4,000 followers. I'm cool with that, even if it's taste. I'm like that's nice.
Speaker 2:That's awesome. That's awesome.
Speaker 3:I love it, that's it.
Speaker 2:But I mean you also, you go into everyone's lives, you go into mine, yeah, go into.
Speaker 3:I can't.
Speaker 2:I can't think of a name right now and I'm going to feel terrible.
Speaker 3:Oh copper.
Speaker 2:Yeah, copper, thank you. I was like fuck, I can't think of her name. I love her, but I can't think of her name. I'm sorry, Copper.
Speaker 3:We have so much fun going on. Her like her podcast, you know, and she's like oh yes, I have 4,600. Oh yeah. That's awesome. That's awesome. I just like to do that. I'm like, yeah, but I mean that's awesome.
Speaker 2:I mean in your duets. They make me smile, they make me laugh. Thank, you.
Speaker 3:So I mean, but that's. But then there are so many people out there that are like they're about the gifts and stuff and it like don't, you'll get more followers if you're not about the gifts.
Speaker 2:No, but I mean I say that, but then you watch some of them, you're like how Well yeah we were talking about one in the break and this dude. He was Pussing and mad at people because they didn't give a big enough gift. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I'm like, bro, like the fact that you I appreciate everybody coming, If you're going to come and hang out with me and just talk to me, you don't have to get. You don't have to get like you don't. I mean, I appreciate it, I'm never going to be like don't do that, no. But then like I almost feel dirty because if I thank somebody, then somebody else wants me to thank them. So then they give gifts and then I'm like I'm not trying to do that. I promise, like I swear I do appreciate it and I watch some of them, man, and they don't. Or like I try to hit every comment. If you were going to take the time to come hang out with me, I'm going to try my best to hit every comment and every now and then I get into my little acting and playing and doing jokes and stuff and I miss them and I feel bad. I'm like, oh shit, my bad, and I try to go back. Well, sometimes I miss a few and it's going to happen.
Speaker 2:But I watched some of these guys. We were talking about another cop on here. I won't say his name. I have no hate towards the dude, no will towards the dude, no, nothing, I don't really. He does what he does and it works out extremely well for him, so much so that he has people doing recordings of him making boo-koo's of money on those. It's not even him. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it's in two. Kudos to you, dude, you found it away. I have no hate towards him. I find it kind of funny myself. But I watch these in these comments come in so much and they don't. They don't say thank you, they don't talk to anybody, right.
Speaker 3:That's what gets me is, if you're going to be ungrateful, you're people giving.
Speaker 2:Giving a lot and then, like some of the goals, the goals they come up with, I'm like, bro, they'll do a goal. And I'm like, fuck, dude, you just asked for 30 supercars.
Speaker 2:One of the supercars is more than I make it each one of my lives, and you're like 30 of them. Let's do it, let's work it, let's do it. We'll work as a team. I'm like but you're not doing it. You're not doing anything. Yeah, they're paying you a lot of money which I don't have a will. I don't really have jealousy towards it, I just trying to figure it out. Right, I sit back and I show my wife. I go he's a good looking dude. She's like, yeah, I go, you want to give him anything. She's like, no, nope, no, she don't even watch me, really. I mean, she's been popping in lately but she doesn't.
Speaker 2:What's an old blame? I mean, it's not for everybody, it's not.
Speaker 3:I'm not saying, oh yeah, she's a trip.
Speaker 2:She's fun, she's awesome, but I don't know. But the one that like he just cusses people out, they don't give big enough, and then like what kills me is, let's say, I started doing it and I start battling with people, and then when I beat somebody, I talk shit to that person Like how you suck, I beat you, bro, you didn't do anything. Like yeah, you legit panhandled. You are a better panhandler than that person Like.
Speaker 2:that's like if there's two homeless dudes on the corner and they're fighting over a fucking penny and you're like no bitch, just my fucking corner. I'm like God damn dude, like what is going on, where what to you. I mean, and then when I found out how much these dudes are making. Holy be Jesus. Holy be Jesus.
Speaker 3:But then then you think, okay, if they're making that much Chick-Tac is making more and they're putting that traffic back in there. Oh okay, oh, that they are putting that traffic back in.
Speaker 2:So like mine I make right now. I guess if you have more subscribers you get more of a portion of how much you make, compared to TikTok, something like that. I don't know, TikTok sends me a lot of stuff. I'm like what, yeah, what, I don't what, but like I guess if you get more than 50 subscribers, your gift percentage goes more towards you. But it's only like I don't know, like a percent, I don't know. I make about I make 50-50, I think is what my cut is with them. Now it was like 60-40 of them. So like, if you give me a galaxy, I get $5 and it costs $10 to send that is what I end up with about.
Speaker 2:So, like, for every thousand points I get, I know I get $5. If you do the math on what these dudes are doing, like right now, I'm going to pull this up right now and we'll look at. I don't know if I was going to pull up the audio on here. Sorry if it does, I think it just did. But okay, we're going to pull up somebody's live on here.
Speaker 3:Bluetooth disconnected I know it's disconnected.
Speaker 2:So we're going to pull up this dude's live and we're going to look at the daily rankings. Right now, the daily ranking for number one is at 1.1 million diamonds. That's equivalent to $5,000.
Speaker 3:That's crazy.
Speaker 2:In a day. In a day Like I'm like good lord, like I think the most I've gotten on TikTok in a day on a live it was like 150 bucks. But then, you know, some people give me cash up. I've made a lot of cash up. Someone sent me and, like I'm pretty transparent with anything, I'll tell people. I have no problem telling people.
Speaker 2:But I'm just sitting here, I'm like man, if I could sell myself for a month of doing it, I could have the things out. But I'm like I can't, I can't do that, I just can't. I cannot do that Because, first of all, that's not who I am, that's not who I want to be known as, and I don't want to piss off the people that I do have, friend wise, I don't want to piss them off and go, wow, he's a sell out. Now there's no point. Yes, the money is extra and yes, it's nice, but no point am I going to go? Well, everything about this is me getting $5,000 a day. I have to hit this. I've followed so many friends that were cops. They put being a cop just to do this all day, battles all day, and if they hit a certain amount they can pay rent.
Speaker 3:I'm like no no, no Because it's not sustainable either.
Speaker 2:No, no in the long run, no Right.
Speaker 3:It's kind of like the football players and the best of which they make way If they get paid in obscene, but they spend it and then they're homeless. If they're not smart and don't invest it.
Speaker 2:Well, like I have all these cop friends, you know, we did a meet up a couple years ago and to be and I'll be completely honest, we were having a baby is before Harbor was born. We have a baby. We had a house to work on, we had stuff going on. I was like guys, they wanted me to go and I was like I don't have the money. Guys, I really don't, I'm sorry, I can't. And then they go well, we'll help pay for it. If you want to help pay for it, I'll go, that's fine. But then we got done with that one and they're like okay, two months, let's go to New Orleans. I'm like, bro, like I don't.
Speaker 2:You guys live another lifestyle as a cop than I do, because I don't, I make 30. When I say I make $36,000 a year, that's what I make a year, I'm not just saying that for shits and giggles. So when they're like, oh, I don't make very much money, but we're going to go to New Orleans this month, we're going to Miami this month, yeah, I'm like how do you do this? I can't, I can't even fathom it. Like I can't. The dedicated lines thing. I took like a $500 hit and that broke me. I was like okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean I should, I had more money set aside, yeah, but I mean they didn't take it. My website alone was like using Wix, and making a website was 500 for the year.
Speaker 2:And then I had to pay a monthly fee on and then I had to pay my printer, then I had to pay to get all the stuff and then if I'm behind, I don't want my name being bad, so then I take a hit there. About time it was done I was like, okay, I was like $500 in a hole. I was like, okay, I've got to take a break.
Speaker 2:And when I get a hit ahead, then we'll see where we go. But this nonstop taking trips to live this lavish lifestyle, but with crazies at sales, you know people want to see that and I'm like that's cool, dude, that ain't going to be me. I can't. I can't live. If you want to see me feed my chickens when I get home, I'll do that. I'll feed my chickens.
Speaker 3:Who won that chicken war, did you?
Speaker 2:I don't even fuck. I don't know. I'm losing mine to Hawks and Al, so I don't even know where mine are.
Speaker 3:You're annoying Rooster, oh no.
Speaker 2:Is he dinner, yet no he's out there, he's still a dick. I mean him. Can we go around and around telling you that's legit? We go around and around. I have to watch my back going to my yard. I mean him. Battled it out a many a time he is a dick. I mean a lot. I guess he went after mama the other day and the first time, so he's about to be dinner.
Speaker 3:Oh, he's going to be a goner soon. He can't go after her. No, he doesn't know what she does, he's about to learn.
Speaker 2:He's going to learn. We had another one that did it and she was like I want him gone by the end of the day and I'm like, oh yes, don, I got you yeah he's going by the end of the day, boss.
Speaker 3:Then you got to play like deliverance or oh.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I'm over here like it'll happen, boss. It'll be over. It won't be any more with your boss. Yeah, it's a sure shit. I got rid of that chicken before she got home.
Speaker 2:I was like yeah, okay, you did you. Either you write it, go, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. You know I'm over here like, okay, I can buy an old crown Vic. That's going to cost me about $1,500. So I was like, maybe I can do a fundraiser on TikTok to try to get that so I can do video. But then it's like but how do I go about doing that without being a sell? You know, it's like a whole.
Speaker 3:I try to keep it balanced, Like if I make it I was going to talk to you about the patches like, even if you like, I would resell them, especially if you'd have them on hand. I thought that guy had them all on.
Speaker 2:No, he, he got, so he got 10. Yeah, so it was a cool deal, like so. I was like man, this is a cool deal, so what? He sent me a message. He said hey, I would love to buy all 100 from him and is there a way you can reach out to him? Have him send me 10 and you get 90 that you can hand out.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I was like dude, I'll take, I can. So I reach out to the guy. Who's like sure, man, if you have a guy that wants to do that, fuck yeah, I'll send them to him and I'll send the rest to you. So I was like okay, awesome, so he does it, I receive them. I gave a few of them out, because that was the goal was to give them out to people, and I was going to send them out to people. But then he ended up about two weeks after I received them Luckily it wasn't too much after, because I was playing on doing a whole bunch of giveaways he came out and he's like hey, man, what's up with that dude?
Speaker 2:And I was like well, what do you mean? And he was like he's just a guy that falls me on Tik Tok. He comes around all the time. What do you mean? He goes. Well, he's disputing the charges. He's saying he only requested one, not 100. And I was like, listen, dude, I've got, because it makes me look bad. You know that this guy's like he's saying he only requested one. I go, brother.
Speaker 2:I took the screenshots of the messages. I send it to him. I was like, right here he said well, you ask him if he can send me 10 and you get 90. I was like, so no point is it, can you send me 10% of a patch and give him 90% of the patch? I was like I knew what he was doing. But even his bank reached out to this guy. I was like, listen, we think it's a hoax, but we have to go with what is wishing.
Speaker 2:So that guy took a big hit, which means I took a big hit because I have to pay it like a die fee. They didn't make everything to get it ready and that was like $150. And then we'd split everything 50-50. So if it sold all 100, I would get 500. He would get 500.
Speaker 2:So then now I have them all and then I asked him if he wants me to send them back. He said, yeah, we can do that if you want to. And then he was supposed to send me a box, never did so. Then I think he kind of took us a loss which I don't like. I don't like him to be like, hey, I took it as a loss. But then I was thinking about the other day is like, yeah, I could sell them and then send him his 500 back, so he's not out. But then I just also I don't know it kind of felt dirty. I was like ugh, so, and then like for you, you bought some off the website. And then I feel bad and I'm like, well, shit, she bought it off the website.
Speaker 3:So that's kind of like ugh, but you have, like it's been enough time too. You have new followers too, who want something like that, and it's not you. You're not money hungry, you're looking to pay back.
Speaker 2:That's the thing is, I think I need to do it just to pay him back his 500. Like, I don't my thing I'm cool with. I just don't want him having a bad taste. First of all, this guy's not big on TikTok. His company is First Responders, which one of his biggest, one of his biggest clients is the anti-TikTok cop group on Instagram. So and they hate me, they hate me. They've tried, they've called my agency trying to get me fired.
Speaker 2:They send my agency messages and the funny thing is I received the Facebook messages to my agency. I even told my sheriff is like listen, sheriff, you need to take this one. I'm not going to take this, it would be wrong for me to take it. You need to fill this one. She filled it and then they didn't like it. So now they call me fat and work less numpy shit. All that stuff which whatever dude teacher on your set sad, isn't typical salty cop that's mad that I'm making people smile what kills me is they're doing.
Speaker 2:They're doing the legit, exact same fucking thing I'm doing on Instagram. And they don't see the irony of it. That's what kills me is I've called, I've called them out about it and like no, we're not, I'm like, but, but you are you're?
Speaker 2:doing. You're growing a following by just bashing TikTok cops on Instagram and they're like well, we just don't like dancing cops. I'm like listen, motherfucker, I never dance. I'm not out there doing what. I don't know what he's talking about. I was like whatever, man, whatever, no matter what you're going to hate me, whatever you do.
Speaker 2:I ended up having to block them just because they still post negative, negative stuff about me. There's a cop I love. She's a bigger cop, she does dancing videos. Love her. We've sent messages back and forth. She's actually from your area. Love her, she's awesome.
Speaker 2:And they bashed her and on stop on there, they bashed. They bashed Garland on there. Garland sent me a message like hey man, you know they're bashing me on there. I'm like yep. He's like, yeah, they're bashing me too. I'm like just let them go with it, dude, it's not worth it. But they were bashing Keeps on there, which really pissed me off. She's a genuine person, genuine great mother, great wife. And then they start bashing the husband. You know it's like come on, man, if you just don't, don't watch it Right, you've taken it to the level. Now you're bashing her, calling her fat and telling her husband he needs better teeth. They legit are a happy couple. They have a beautiful little girl. That girls well taken care of.
Speaker 2:She's made jokes that I've made jokes about, like Jokes where our babies are pissing us off, and she'll make a joke and the people like you're a terrible mother, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's the comedy. People like right and it kills me. She sent me a message. She was pretty not upset, like she didn't take it personal, but she's like oh yeah, they think that they got it where I can't film and uniform anymore and she can. She told me she's like I can. I just don't do it just for my own mental, mental state and I can't blame her. You know you get hate from people that aren't cops. The fact that you're getting hate from cops as well, it's like man, how sad is that like. And it kills me because she's she's a good person that's just trying to do funny videos and make people's day and she has empowered so many.
Speaker 2:Not that she's, she's body types are different, she's not a bit, she's a bigger person. I'm a bigger person. No matter what diet I go on, I'm gonna be a bigger person. At my lowest weight I was trying to join the Marines. I lost all this way. I was 254 pounds. I Was in a size medium hoodie.
Speaker 2:Yeah at 254 pounds. They're like there's no way I'm like. I got on the scale to 154 pounds. Medium, hoodie, I don't have a gut. My shoulders are big. I have, I'm a big, I'm a big dude. It is what it is and it's. What kills me is like Not everybody's gonna be the hourglass shape, not everyone's gonna be this.
Speaker 2:She's empowered so many big women To dance and have fun and do whatever makes you happy and not worry about other people say and I get on her video, she, she makes me smile. I can get on that video and I could see a woman going I'm a bigger woman and to be able to see you get down, like that makes me think there's hope that I can. Yeah, like that, how awesome is that? Yeah, and just for someone to try to tear her down, and it's like, if you don't, she's not asking you to sleep with her, she's not asking you to go take her in it. She has a husband, she's very happy with her husband, she loves her child, she's very happy, the child. She's not asking you for anything, but, yeah, you. That's just shows you how sad they are and it.
Speaker 3:It does, it reflects on them. Oh yeah, big time I'm down that they had to hear him down. And I don't make him a better cop though.
Speaker 2:No, for sure.
Speaker 3:I can I think, oh yeah oh yeah, what kills me?
Speaker 2:I fucking love it. I Love it. I've had watched so many cops that hate what I do. I've talked about a lot on here and on tic-tac about I had a chief that hated me. He said anybody on there that gets caught Doing anything on Dane stuff You'll be fired instantly. And he would say this stuff. I'd laugh to his face. He hated me With a tee. He recently just lost his career for doing methamphetamine. Love it, I fucking love it. I love it. The sad thing is it's been washed under the table, like a lot of stuff is because that an agency Doesn't want a black guy. So instead of filing charges on him, he can still go become a cop somewhere, which I think is bullshit.
Speaker 2:I think I'm a big. He knew better, especially him. He knew better. He bust people for methamphetamine all the time. So the fact that you're doing meth While busting people for meth, that's not right. It's not right by any means and that pisses me off. But at the same time I still have down the back of my mind. I'm like, ah, bitch, that's exactly what it is. You want to hate on someone so bad because you think you're so good. But look, I'm not doing meth, obviously, but still I love it.
Speaker 3:I love it. I could lose weight on that.
Speaker 2:Oh a lot. You could lose about three pounds and teeth if you want to go to the border.
Speaker 2:Some of the show might come on dude, but that's what I love is a lot of these guys. They're so insecure with themselves and uncomfortable themselves and, like he, he used to work at my agency a long time ago Before he became the chief. The other and she. The only reason left her agency is he couldn't become an undershare. Our sheriff wouldn't promote him to under share, so then he went, became the chiefs. He just wanted to be top dog, no matter where he went.
Speaker 2:I Mean he has charges on his past. He should never be a cop. They were expunged. But yeah, I Mean him a butt heads all the time. But he'll try to be nice to my face. I'm like listen, dude, I don't like you. Like I right, I'm very. Some people in my area don't like me whatsoever. Because I'm very, I call bullshit. I have no problem calling bullshit. I will call bullshit. If I do bullshit, you call bullshit on me. That is what it is. If you're scared of the dark, I'm gonna fucking call you up for being scared of the dark because you're putting my life on the line.
Speaker 2:You're putting me in danger. I'll call you out. If you're scared. You're on shadow, I'm gonna call you out no matter what. So in my area I'm not. People know that I'm Joe. I'll joke with you, I'll have fun with you, will be good, but I'll also tell you what the fuck. But at the same time.
Speaker 2:It's kind of what I'm getting, so I try to like, hold it back, but at the same time, a lot of that it's officer safety stuff. I call them out on my humor. You want to call me on humor and stuff. Whatever. Dude, I don't care. Call me out about being fat, but you had no problem me helping you hold that guy down. You know I still hold my own and so it's it's. It is what it is. Some people my area like me. Some people my area Really don't like me, really don't. But I have a problem with the egotistical cops that want to sit here and Treat people like shit, yeah, but then do shady stuff and when I call them out they get mad. If you do shady shit and I call you out about it, then it's because you're doing the same stuff.
Speaker 2:You're telling people they can't do You're pulling people over, speeding two over, but get, you're going five over. So I Just call bullshit out. We have a Way to achieve. That was just left our area. He had built these new cops up to Lay the hammer down, okay, and now he is gone. He went on to bigger and better things. I have respect for the dude. I've liked him as a person. We just don't work well as him being a police chief because he he would post stats all the time because he's a stat guy. Like they'll take you to jail for a dog at large warrant from four years ago Just to say they arrested somebody on this day, so they post a stat. We've arrested somebody every day, not realizing there the public doesn't know it was a bullshit warrant. What you took in on, like this bullshit.
Speaker 2:Well, since he's left, some of the younger guys that were there with him Still have this problem with his ego. Christmas day they pulled over an absurd amount of cars. Absurd amount of car I'm not saying that other people go, but for stupid, stupid shit. And we kind of were messing with that kid and I was like hey man, you heard a lot of people's feelings on Christmas, just kind of like, yeah, bullshit. He legit looks me at us, me and my, my buddy, and goes. It's not my fucking job to worry about their feelings.
Speaker 3:And I was like See, he needs CIT training.
Speaker 2:But I was just like, wow, the best, the best part is he talks about he's an MMA God and he beats everybody in MMA. We had to get him. He's getting his ass beat by 17 year old. One day we had to go get 17 year old off him like legit, get his ass beat on the side of the highway and it's like but yet you're an MMA God. This 17 year old was whooping your ass, dude, right. So I'm like you got to humble yourself. You got to realize you can't be going out there and just fucking with people to fuck with people, because no matter what, no matter how bad you are, there's someone that's bigger and better. The fact that 17 year old was kicking your ass dude like Bro, I don't want to hear.
Speaker 2:Video dude oh yeah, dude, like seriously, I'm like what are you doing? Like don't sit here and buy. Oh yeah, I've won this many fights black whoa or any of them 17. Were you beating up 13 year olds like shit, dude? Like this dude legit had the best of them and this kid was just he's a taller than him. But it was not. He wasn't, if you're what now, I was just like man, but then you tell me he's not my problem, we don't care about their feelings.
Speaker 2:Uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, cuz no matter what you're gonna piss off the wrong dude and he will fight you. It's happened. I've fought people. You will fight somebody and one of the days it's gonna happen and you're gonna get your ass book and, to be honest, sadly you need it. I'll come help you, but you're gonna need it and you're gonna let that guy get a few licks in before I fucking jump in.
Speaker 2:Not really, but Can't do that, but I won't drag my feet, but it's just like, come on, man, like you don't have to be captain fucking douchebag 24-7, but some of them feel they have to and it just I did you need to chill.
Speaker 3:Well, they're in it for the wrong reason, 100% you know. And then then then pick a department where you don't have to be in the community's eyesight. You can still be a good cop. I know that not all cops are gonna be like Mr Friendly or officer yeah, whatever. Then you put him where he's good, he's doing the job that he needs to do with integrity, and then go from there. Yep, so, but no, I was like to like if I'm in a room full of cops, I'll go. Okay, now, guess what guys? I'm your BFF now. So if I'm driving through your city, you better keep your integrity.
Speaker 2:Well, that's the deal is like. I Don't know, we in my area I mean, like I said, we pulled over. I pulled over three cars the other day. While we're on, live In each of them we're going about dessert.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, they're all going 20 over. I could easily broke a ticket off, but, to be honest, in my opinion, it not everybody needs a ticket, right? Some people need a reminder. Hey, slow the fuck down now if you do it again. Okay, you didn't learn, I'll do it.
Speaker 2:A lot of my traffic stop I use as ways to see if there's a criminal in the car. If this is and normally what happens, it can happen I get a lot of cops hate on my videos. You're just a lazy cop that I want to pull people over, bro. It is 5, 30, 6, 30 in the morning. People are heading to work. Meth heads aren't out dealing dope right now. They could be and that's why I pulled cars over and I might find them. But there's a lot of them. I'm watching. I know who they are. This is Billy Bob. He works the hospital down the road. This is so, and so they work over here at the ammo plant. This person works to the jail. This person works to the prison. It's like you learn these people. So it's like I know that this person's not slinging dope. They could be. I arrested the chief for slinging dope. Dumbass. Yeah, that did I do. That's another story but uh.
Speaker 2:Yes, they could be. But it's like I know this dude's schedule. I know where he's heading right now, I know for the most part, and then sometimes you don't know. But if a dude's coming over covered in coveralls and covered a mud, saying he just left oil patties heading home, I believe that's where he's going. I don't believe he was out doing dope slinging and then, like this dude, legit, was out there working on a oil field, going home not paying attention to the speed. But again, it's that the cop mentality. Someone thinks that I'm going to do better.
Speaker 2:There's some cops on here on TikTok not on here on TikTok that are now retired and they like to bash other cops that lose their attitude. And I might, bro, I understand to an extent it the first minute order to think if there are some people need to be bashed, bashed them. But I've seen them where they'll call someone out for saying a cuss word. I might, bro, you know you said in your 30 years on the road you have snapped on someone and said shut the fuck up. Like don't sit here and act like you haven't. But they do. They get on TikTok and they're like well, look at this cop, he did this. I'm like teach your own dude like you do you.
Speaker 2:But I've watched a lot of these old retire cops Like we never did. That you know because you used to beat the shit out of people. We can't do what you were able to do back in the day. It's easy to point fingers when you're not in it every day anymore. I have nothing but love and respect for retired guys. I have nothing, nothing but respect for them. But when you come out and start trying to armchair quarterback everything, come on, man like right come on.
Speaker 2:But it's again. Cops think that they can do something better than that. You can't put type B mentalities in this job. It won't work. You have to have type A mentalities in this job. If you put people that are scared of their own shadow, someone gets hurt and it happens all the time. I've worked with guys that were type B mentalities and you find out real quick. First of all, I offend their feelings real quick by joking. They end up getting me on a scene and almost get me injured. They don't last, it's like, because they're not going to hurt themselves, they're going to hurt the guy that's going to try to do everything he can to make sure his partner goes home. That's who's going to get hurt, or the citizen, the citizen you're dealing with. So it's a bunch of type A mentalities. You can't put a bunch of type A mentalities in a room and go. Everybody get along. It's not going to happen. Now, if someone came in with a gun about the sharks to shoot someone, they'll all work towards the common goal.
Speaker 2:They will 100%. They'll all jump up and make sure that other guy goes home and that guy doesn't. But you can't expect a bunch of type A mentalities to all have the same ideas, same everything. And I've learned over the years everybody police is in a different way, everybody. Where I'm at, I'm kind of blessed where I'm at, we are very lax, so I'm blessed in that aspect to an extent. I think we're a little too laxed, but we're laxed on where. If you're good at traffic, you can go run traffic all day as long as you have a call. If you're good at hunting warrants, you can go hunt warrants all day as long as you have a call. Everybody has their own thing. Some people are good at just staying at the office and taking calls from the office when I'm at. Sometimes it has to happen.
Speaker 2:We have been so defunded and we don't have funding. There are days that we have to sit at the office like a fireman. Nothing is fireman, but we have to sit there. We can't afford the gas. We go through thousands of dollars of gas each week, so, or each month, which comes out each week as well, but we go through this amount of gas and if we don't have the funding I need to save that gas for real emergencies. You know we'll go sit in an area. That's why, like in the mornings, I go sit where I sit, because it's away from everybody else. I'm not out wasting a whole bunch of gas and let my car idle. I'm pulling cars over. I'm still doing my job. But if anything happens down here, I'm already there, I'm closer, I'm right there. So all these people get on the hate on me. Oh, you're not doing your job, I am doing my job. You don't realize how much I am doing my job. I, just being where I'm at my office, is 30 miles. That way, if I get something down here, I'm that much closer to being there. And again, I respond to all these medical calls.
Speaker 2:The death the other day after the live, I was the closest unit to all the other units. Actually my undershift was because he lives down there Was. He was heading into work and he got there before I did. But we were able to get there and with my training and my undershift training the dude was deceased for a while. We had rigor mortis had already set in.
Speaker 2:I'm able to tell EMS hey, slow it down, go ahead and go back to the base because you're not needed. Here you go back to the station. You're not needed, the student is clearly deceased. Whereas what if they got in a wreck? By still going code to that call, I was able to get there, assess situations, say they're not needed. They could have gotten a wreck on the way there because people see the lights and freak the fuck out, so every little thing can click. Now it can go bad too, but everything can work together. Whereas, yes, I'm on TikTok but I still respond to calls. I still go to everything needed and then I'm still the closest unit to some of the things that go on. I could be the furthest unit, but I still have other units in the area.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so it's community members. It's like that's what blows my mind, is like so I'm thinking, or they're all thinking, like city departments you don't think of. Oh my gosh, okay, so deputies are all over the county and then the whole county. And then you've got your state police who are further which in our area.
Speaker 2:We're having such a shortage of state police. They cover several counties and there's only one of them on, so you never know. And where I'm at, sometimes there's a deputy out there by himself. I used to work by myself all the time. I covered the whole county. If I get in a fight with someone, there's no telling how long it'll take, there's no telling. And if I have terrible radio reception, which is where I'm at, we sometimes have places, our radios don't work, we have no cell phones.
Speaker 3:So your elbow, do you like this?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'll be screwed. You earned that. Yeah, I earned it, that's it. But a lot of my stuff is using de-escalation is because I've learned I'm by myself. I've got to control the situation I don't know if you're on live the other day when I kept it live when I showed up at the domestic house.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah. So, I show the door.
Speaker 2:Yeah, as soon as I walk in the door. Okay, so you walk in the door, it's a small little hallway, to the right was the master bedroom, to the left was the kitchen and dining room and all that stuff. As soon as I walk in, I chaos. I had a mother screaming at a daughter. The dad was involved, there was another daughter involved and they're all adults screaming.
Speaker 2:And I had to go in and the first thing I says everyone shut the fuck up. Because at this time I have to. I'm by myself. I have to get something calm down and under control. And as soon as I did that, the dad started to stand up. No one's going to talk to me in my fucking house. So you guys almost got to watch me take someone down.
Speaker 2:And I told him I was like listen, dude, I got to get this under control and no one's going to shut up. You need to shut the fuck up. Oh, that's it. And I said listen, you better sit down or I'm going to throw you down. And then his daughter was like please, dad, stop, stop, stop. And that's how it is. I have to get it controlled as soon as I get there. Yes, I didn't, I didn't go in there Everyone shut the fuck up. I was like, hey guys, you need to calm down, everyone quiet down. When they don't, I'm like everyone shut the fuck up. You have to sometimes because that makes them click. Oh shit, this guy's legit. And that's a. Thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you have to. Sometimes you have to because they're like, oh, you can't. Well, I just did Now, shut up. I was able to get everybody calm down. At the end of it the dad shook my hand and he said very sorry. And I said sorry, sir, I go. I understand this is your home and I did not mean to show you disrespect, but that was the only way I was able to get through to all of you. He's like well, I'm sorry, I shouldn't have taken it as far as I did, and we were able to shake hands. After it we left. No one went to jail. There was the sisters. They kind of squabbled but there was no injuries. There was no and nobody wanted to do anything. But that's what you have to learn how to do.
Speaker 2:And people don't realize. Sometimes you're by yourself, sometimes I'm by myself and my being I'm where I'm at is a reason. I know the turds in my area. What they don't see is and I don't know if every now and then you guys can hear it I don't know if you guys can't Cars honk at me that drive by in the mornings when we're online, because they know who I am and they thank me for what I'm doing the farmer that was there when I was on off on my vacation.
Speaker 2:Finally he called off and said hey, I cut that grass right. There Is that deputy mad. I took his hiding spot. I really like him back. I appreciate him being here and we explained to him no, I'm on vacation, so called vacation. That's why I'm not sitting there. It's not because you cut the grass so I mean just to get all the hate. It just gets old because people think they know. And it's like the same thing with cops. Cops think they know I get. Cops say on me I'm worthless, but they have no idea what I do and I don't know that. I work a lot of child rape cases and stuff like that and my main hours are when the courthouse is open because I have to go get search warrant signed, I have to go get court stuff signed, I have to talk to the DA. They don't come in at five in the fucking morning. I come in early because I enjoy what I'm doing and it keeps me grounded. So I don't know. I know I don't have to explain myself but, with friends.
Speaker 2:I like to be upfront and honest, so, but now we're down to two minutes, so if you have anything else, I think we're good, all right. Well, I appreciate you coming on, my mom, my wife, my mom, maybe I should be home in a minute.
Speaker 3:It's gonna be family time. We gotta go hug those kids.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I will. I will Thank you so much for working through everything with me.
Speaker 3:I appreciate you having me on Absolutely this was fun.
Speaker 2:I appreciate it. Hopefully everybody else enjoys it. Again, there was one scripted. This was just friends catching up and talking so.
Speaker 3:I hope they wasn't taking breaks.
Speaker 2:I hope not, I don't know. I've enjoyed it.
Speaker 3:I mean this time is fun, but I enjoyed it.
Speaker 2:I don't know if someone's gonna be like that was terrible.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't ever have her on again, or could be like just I could be just the thing where people are like.
Speaker 2:I don't think you should have people talking about.
Speaker 3:No, no, okay, my, bad, that was totally horrible.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you again. I do appreciate you and absolutely, and we'll see you. We'll see you around, I'll still be around. Yeah, cool, thanks again and again, if anybody wants to check her out, check her out. Trauma diva on Tiktok Are you on the Instagram and all that.
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Speaker 3:Instagram. I re-did it, so now I got to put more pictures on.
Speaker 2:Again, thank you so much and I'll see you around.
Speaker 3:Take care, bye, bye.
Speaker 2:Alrighty guys. Well, that was a lot of fun. I enjoyed it. It was a good conversation. It was more. It wasn't scripted, everything is as we went, kind of sat there, talked, got things out. If you enjoyed it, please let me know. It is a long one, but, man, I enjoyed it. It was a lot easier to sit here and talk with somebody instead of me just sitting there and going. Well, guys, today we're going to talk about bananas. It was a lot easier for me to sit here and just kind of BS with somebody. I had a lot of fun on this. I hope others will enjoy this and hopefully we can start bringing other people on.
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