The Boro Buzz Episode 6: Coach Lee & Freshman PG Tylen

In this episode we take a road trip to Southern Guilford High School Men's Basketball with 1st year Head Coach Adrian Lee & one of his many Freshman Standouts 6'3 PG Tylen Goode. Check out the conversation that you will only get right here on THE BORO BUZZ!!

Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:00

Hey, it's Jay, and welcome to another episode of The Borough Buzz.

SPEAKER_02 0:03

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SPEAKER_03 0:28

Welcome, Southern Guilford Head Coach, Coach Lee, and Tyland Freshman. Freshman. You look like you had Dagnum senior, son. How you doing? Doing good, doing good. Good coach. First year, man. We met at the Jamboree over the summer at Ashboro. Man, you're we talked a little bit about your history, but for our viewers, man, who's Coach Lee? I mean, you get you I know you came from Lexton, but there's a deeper root than that.

SPEAKER_00 0:49

Well, I'm actually from Greensboro, North Carolina, um, off of Gifford College Road, but we moved um in 1987. Now I'm telling my age. You look young. You like I know, right? We moved in 87 to uh Kernersville, North Carolina. Okay. Um and I attended East for Siph High School there. Uh played with some of the greatest high school basketball players you could ever know. Like on my high school team, we had three Hall of Famers at the collegiate level and at East for Site High School. Oh, wow. Coach Pittman, okay, baby high school. Yeah. Tyson Patterson, like I know Pittman was a Hall of Famer in my high school, Hall of Famer at uh UNC Ashefield, Tyson Patterson is the same way. So I've I've um really learned the game from you know getting my butt kicked a lot. But East for Sife High School set a high standard that I learned at an early age, uh, that, you know, nothing's given, everything's earned. And that standard still uh stands to this day. Um I went on to play college ball after um my senior year at um East for Sife at Murray State Junior College. Um that's out there in um Tishmingo, Oklahoma. That's region eight, if I'm not mistaken. Super highly Division I competitive basketball. A lot of guys that play out in that area, um, out there in Hutcheson, out that way, um Tyler Texas stuff like that. A lot of those guys go play power, uh power five basketball, whether it's Big Ten, um Pac-Ten, stuff, things of that nature. Super competitive. So I learned at an early age, there's levels of basketball, uh, the dedication, and how much you really love it. And just the speed uh past that, you know, um transfer to UNC Charlotte, started to walk on, but uh I didn't have that same fire that I uh once had, and um went ahead and graduated from there. Some fire must have sparked you to want to go coaching, and you still love the game that much. Oh my god. I can't. I'm he the kids know, man. I'm I'm addicted to this stuff. It's like it's like opium to me. I got in what's crazy, I got into coaching uh by a guy named Mike Wright. Okay. Now, Mike Wright used to be the coach at um what's the school down in um GOAT Academy.

SPEAKER_04 3:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 3:09

Mike Wright. Mike Wright, um, I met Mike Wright when I was like working during the summer. I was just getting ready to graduate from UC Charlotte, met him, and he told me, you know, um, we used to work out together in the gym. He said, man, you know, um, uh, have you ever thought about coaching? And that kind of like, you know what, that's that's the way I, even though I wasn't as what as good as I used to be, or I couldn't still play at the collegiate level anymore, I that's how I kind of stayed close to it um the game. It just went from there to AAU to um getting an opportunity at Andrews High School in 2003. Okay, so you're at Andrews. Correct. That's how I ended up. I ended up getting into the school system that way and coaching the likes of uh Donald Sims, uh Kellen Brand, uh Marcus Gilchrist, oh wow Chris Chris Collins, um Corbin Collins. Um, so just I'm very familiar with the Greensbury area, just to try it in general, general in Forsyth County. So I've kind of like been all over the place.

SPEAKER_03 4:10

You're in ACC country, baby.

SPEAKER_00 4:11

Correct, correct, correct. And then, you know, um I learned from um James Abel, who's one of the, to me, one of the best coaches I've ever at the high school level, I've ever been around. Just such a great mind, sharp guy, and master motivator, and very uh sharp. Like Matt Ridge, they're very similar, out of Davis and Davy, two great minds, uh mentors of mine that um led me down this road to uh get my first opportunity. Well, actually, I went to Glenn High School in 2019 and helped out with Coach Ganey out that way. We won uh the conference title out there twice. I ended up playing Chambers at Chambers in the second round. Like, so there I've seen all types of levels of basketball, whether playing it or coaching it and being in great uh uh coaching environments, a lot of talent that we had on that roster. Like, we had about four or five guys that go went on to go play college ball. Wow. Um, CJ Vaughn, Julius Reese Jr., um, we had a lot of uh great players on the team. And then from there, I got my first opportunity at Lexy, because I want to be a head coach at some point.

SPEAKER_04 5:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:18

And um I learned earlier on that if if you have younger talent, yeah, and they're just as good as your upper classmen, you might as well just go ahead and rip the uh band-aid.

SPEAKER_03 5:27

Get the punches in the foot out the wag, the the jabs.

SPEAKER_00 5:30

Yeah, just you know, you know, I I'm I'm I'm big on big picture. Yeah. And um Do they all look like him? Because I mean, dude, he's he's a big boy right here. Tylant is he is uh a freak of nature. Him, Elijah, Cameron, they're different. They're super young, but super, super, super talented. Um, I can remember um my first year when I got there, I kind of didn't know what I had.

SPEAKER_04 5:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:56

So the main thing is I know, but I know what I'm looking for. Yeah. I definitely know what I'm looking for.

SPEAKER_03 6:01

As we can tell, it's seeing that Lexington team make that run this year.

SPEAKER_00 6:04

Correct. With the with those guys, I I knew that they were gonna be good. So we we I had to do a lot of grunt work and developing um along with uh the help of some guys like uh Andre Baldwin. He's a great, great young coach. He's a head coach and waiting out there at Lexington, too. If uh people are really paying attention, he has a very bright mind. Um it took a lot of time and effort, summers, um, early morning work to get those boys to that point. But then you you also you also get to a point where um I want to say I outgrew Lexington. It was more so I wanted a uh a bigger challenge and a better situation. And I I love the fact that uh what Coach Perry, what he what he had in place already uh.

SPEAKER_03 6:50

Well there's been well before Perry, wasn't it like five different coaches I've I've heard in the last what six, ten years been about five different coaches?

SPEAKER_00 6:56

No, I know Coach Perry, now Coach Perry was there at basketball, he was there what 2018, and then I think uh what's the coach that was before him this at um at Grimsley? He's the AD at Grimsley.

SPEAKER_03 7:06

Okay, I don't know. I can't think of the name I know.

SPEAKER_00 7:08

So so there's there's been in the in the basketball realm, I can't speak for other because you know I haven't been at uh Southern for so long, but in the basketball, there's been it's been steady.

SPEAKER_01 7:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 7:17

And on the boys' side, steady and consistent. And Coach Perry has uh he created such a great family environment and brotherhood type environment. That's what really attracted me to.

SPEAKER_03 7:28

Did you keep track of him that year they made that little run?

SPEAKER_00 7:30

Well, I've always I've always admired Coach Perry from afar, and um I I saw his team, that team that went 29 and 2. I never forget it was at a Jamboree at East for Sythe High School that we were in at Lexington, and I was like, man, he got a great team. He has a great team, man. I just didn't know I uh I knew about of Jamias and Jakari and some of the other guys, like uh Ja Dawkins and Joe that's out at uh High Point Central now. I I knew of them, but seeing them all together and the way uh Coach Perry uh how those boys carried themselves in a very professional way, and I've always admired how Coach Perry carries himself. Uh he's super steady and super consistent in everything that he does, and that really attracted me because I was kind of shocked that that opportunity had come open.

SPEAKER_03 8:21

Well, most people are scared to be the guy after the guy. So that's cool. Kudos to you that you're like, hey, I'm gonna take this on head on.

SPEAKER_00 8:27

It was something, it was something that, man, hey, uh to me, I I felt in my spirit at the time when I saw it, I was kind of like thrown back because I was like, hold on, man, this he just was one game from the final four. So, you know, uh we have mutual friends and you know, we communicated. And I I thought this was something that you just I I truly believe that you you're in a certain situation where you got certain opportunities that you may not ever get again. And um this allowed me to come most importantly, come back closer to home. And that we, Coach Perry and I have a great relationship, and he's a mentor to me as well. And I was like, this is a can't uh can't miss situation. I mean, all the talents in, let's just be honest, all the talents in the 336 area code, and whether it's the triad, well, Greensboro, Winston, Charlotte, 704 is super big, and and out there in Wake County out that way. So um, I thought this would be a great challenge for me. And then it's like now I'm looking at it in retrospect, like I've definitely made the right decision. I've been um blessed with the opportunity to see kids like I've I've seen guys like Marcus Gilchrist at in the ninth grade. Um, and I I could I from being a player myself, you know it when you look at a kid, you can say, man, this guy's gonna play college basketball or football. He's gonna play at the next level at some aspect. And I um watching him, because I was uh uh watching, you know, recruiting, trying to figure out how to what's next?

SPEAKER_03 9:53

What's who's your next guy?

SPEAKER_00 9:54

Because we lost uh we lost a lot. We lost a lot. Uh people don't realize, like, I mean, John Dawkins, I mean, come on, man. John Dawkins is a walking bucket. Um, he was averaging 18, 17, 20 a game. Joe, I mean, you see Joe out at uh High Point Central. He's a special talent. Uh, we lost a lot to senior, senior graduation. There were guys on that team that played a specific role that were awesome ball players, regardless of stats, but just great ball players and great men and great teammates. Coach Perry, again, he created such a special team and atmosphere that's still there to this day.

SPEAKER_04 10:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:32

And I wanted to be able to jumpstart that and recreate that because, you know, losing kids to graduation and kids make a decision to go do other things. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:40

If you ain't recruiting your own players, somebody else is. That's what I've learned.

SPEAKER_00 10:43

And I quickly realized that there's a big difference between Davidson County and Greensboro County. Yeah. So I had to get my butt out here. And um, you know, I got people that I know, and I somebody told me, what's a kid? It's a kid out there um over here, uh, Alan Jade is pretty good. So, you know, I'm like, all right, I'm a believer, like, I gotta see it.

SPEAKER_04 11:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:02

So I I, you know, um Coach Perry helped me out, connecting me with Coach Shaw over at his his old middle school coach, and he was telling me about this guy named Tylen. And it made me think of one of my high school teammates, Tyson. So I used to call him Ty, so that's why I call him Ty. I was like, let me go see who this Tylin guy is. So when I, you know, I I go to the middle school, so I'm thinking I'm gonna see somebody about my size, five, yeah, five, ten. And I'm like, oh, he's walking out the classroom, I'm looking up, like, and I look at Coach Shaw, and I'm like, Is he a substitute teacher? Yeah, I was like, hold on, man. I said, I said, When y'all niggas can't first thing that come to my mind, when is this game? And he'll tell you, like, I asked him about their grades and everything like that, and I was like literally like pumped in my car driving back. Like, I gotta get this kid.

SPEAKER_04 11:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:48

Somehow, some way. So I don't, I forgot how I got his dad's number, but I'm let me put it this way, I'm very resourceful. Yeah, yeah. And I I just followed around, followed his family around. Yeah. And um, I uh I think it was at the Smith, was it Smith game? We all said Smith?

SPEAKER_01 12:05

It was the it was the oh yeah, it was the MLK tournament.

SPEAKER_00 12:09

And he just shine. And it's something about Tylen when I was it that middle school tournament?

SPEAKER_03 12:13

See, we were gonna get in at NAMS, but we we ended up not being able to do it that year.

SPEAKER_00 12:17

Yeah, it's I don't know what it is. I can look at players and I can tell whether they they have that it and they can really play and they have the potential to really guy, like he has a very high ceiling level. Um I just when I saw him, I just I'll never forget I went home and told my wife, I said, man, I met this kid. I think he's gonna be very good. And um I remember something just told me, okay, let me go watch him play. Because I watched a little bit of uh AAU stuff on him. And then when I went to that um that tournament that Smith uh Coach Parti and they were holding, and I was like, okay, these are some of the best middle school players in um Greensboro. So of course, you know, I I'm I walk in, I I like to kind of be obscure, but I s I always stand at the baseline because I'm a point guard myself, so I want to see what he sees, what he's looking at. Yeah, yeah. And he just played with so much poise beyond his age. And um I I tell his dad this all the time. Like Tyler can score, he could score 30 tonight if he wanted to, especially at that at that point when he was in middle school. He could just do whatever he wanted to do. Even this year, um he he's he I mean he he was outstanding. He made the uh all tournament team at the Sheets classic.

SPEAKER_03 13:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 13:29

Um I he it was a situation where I think y'all were y'all were up and y'all were uh stalling to stalling to score to complete to get the victory, and Tyler had a wide open layup, and he decided to give the ball up to a guy, and I call it transitional points where it it what it does, it gives you a boost to pull away. He he had a layup, but he made a he made a beautiful pass, and I was like, this kid can run the point.

SPEAKER_03 13:56

Yeah, he's got the IQ there. Correct.

SPEAKER_00 13:58

And um, I remember going back and telling Perry, I said, this dude is it, he can hoop.

SPEAKER_03 14:03

What uh how'd you feel with this coach coming in? You didn't know who he was at the time. You might have known who he is, but what was going through your mind as a as a middle schooler seeing a varsity coach coming up to you?

SPEAKER_01 14:13

So it was like, I'm I'm more of like, I'm I was surprised that all these people was here for like a game, a game to see us middle schoolers play.

SPEAKER_03 14:25

Was it that packed? Everybody I hear all about that. I've been wanting to go.

SPEAKER_01 14:28

It was real packed, and I'm seeing all these coaches here and all that, and I was like, but I see the Southern Guilford coach, and I was like, oh that's Coach Lee. Because me and Coach Lee before that, we was like talking a lot, yeah, showing a lot of interest in me. And he was like, it was like a coach who could believe in me, and like was like, go do your thing and stuff like that. Okay and I was just like, wow. And I was like, that's a coach that I want to play for.

SPEAKER_03 14:54

Did you think you're gonna make varsity? Did you have that confidence? Like, oh when I go to high school, wherever I'm at, I'm making freaking varsity.

SPEAKER_01 15:00

Uh I was more like, I think, I didn't think so, but I was like, if anything, I'm gonna try to get varsity. I wanted to be more, I wanted to show that I could play varsity at an at a at a high level. I was really like, at first I thought I was really gonna come off the bench and stuff. And then I was like, man, it's more of it's a high ceiling for me. It's more of a ceiling I can get because and then I got there and I was like, man, I'm gonna go for it all. I was like, I don't know how I'm gonna do it, but I'm gonna do it. And I was like, I can do it because I got God with me and stuff. So as long as I had him with him, I was like, anything's possible.

SPEAKER_03 15:41

So And y'all had a pretty tough non-conference schedule, man. I ain't gonna lie, you you coach, y'all, you made sure that y'all played some good competition. And even when you're walking in here talking about your next year's schedule, it's gotta mean a lot that coach is putting you against competition to get you seen by these scouts and this to get you to this next level at a young age.

SPEAKER_01 15:58

Yeah, it's I take it game by game. I'm not really worried about like who's who's on here. I don't really care for like You'll guard anybody. I guard anybody because I was like, that's how my dad was that's how my dad raised me. It was like, I don't care who won the court, I just can't ready to kill. I I, me personally, I look at somebody and I'm like, I can still take them. I like my odds regardless of who I play against because that's just how I am.

SPEAKER_03 16:26

And I say So I can put you, you're gonna go against anybody. I'm not saying you go against anybody, and I'm not gonna name anybody because I'm sure people be like, oh, but anybody.

SPEAKER_01 16:36

I like it.

SPEAKER_03 16:36

I see my first game, just the experience, the Was it a culture shot, the speed from middle school to varsity?

SPEAKER_01 16:43

The speed was different. Okay. Because I was like taller than everybody and stuff, and then I see somebody taller than me, and I'm like, okay. Cause I played against people who was taller than me at a time, and then my moves were working everything. But then it's like my moves still work, but it's more like, oh, I gotta get more quicker. It was more like I had to I had to do a lot more things, I had to push my body more and stuff. I had to do some more stuff.

SPEAKER_03 17:10

A little more physicality, too.

SPEAKER_01 17:12

It's a lot more physicality over there. It's not and like everybody expecting this from you and all that, and like you gotta like play on a chip on your shoulder, and but your coach telling you to go do you.

SPEAKER_03 17:24

See, I love that because tell me if I'm wrong, my former player, he's uh he's a varsity freshman, uh started and he said the same thing. He goes, difference when you're going against that higher caliber, you can't just do one move. You can't do the same move. You gotta figure out a one-two combo that's different every time.

SPEAKER_01 17:37

You really can't, so once you get there, it's like the moment you do a move, it's everybody right there on you. You gotta you gotta gotta always remember just like somebody on you. Like the moves that you do now just ain't gonna work the next move next play.

SPEAKER_03 17:51

And uh, coach, you talked about this young group. He he's he's a freshman, you talked about two other freshmen. Is this the is this what you're talking about about this young team you did with Lexington that you see this young group that you could mold to be s like to be a state champion?

SPEAKER_00 18:06

Honestly, even better. Um I that that was my gut instinct at the time at Lexington with Abraham Holmes, uh Kamari McDonald, and um Andre Jabba. Um the key was like when I uh found Tyler. Okay, we I saw I saw what Coach Perry did. So Coach Perry, uh we have a picture in the basketball office of uh Ja Dawkins. Because people forget this, you know.

SPEAKER_03 18:37

Um You're right, I forgot Ja was there before.

SPEAKER_00 18:40

Ja scored about 900 points at Southern, so it's 2,000 points at Smith, they need to cut it out. Let's just be real now. He probably scored about a thousand there, but he almost scored a thousand with us.

SPEAKER_04 18:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:52

Um he had a a group of three guys, which told me confirming, it was like affirmation that, okay, I was on to something at um, I knew I was on to something at Lexington, but it it takes three. You gotta have three guys that uh Is that a good number you recommend? Three three, and then you have support and cast. Three guys that can um just flat out play. Um, you know, I believe like Jerry Tarkane's mantra, man. If you got like at least five four or five guys that uh that can get after, especially three, and then you know, you got uh, you know, three or four supporting casts and uh a guys that can help you in practice, you can you can beat the majority.

SPEAKER_03 19:30

What's a typical good bench you recommend? Like if you had for a coach watching this, like if you're like, hey, you if you're trying to make a run, especially the high school level, what you two, three guys maybe?

SPEAKER_00 19:38

I would say at least eight to nine. And bar injury, sickness, eight to nine. Um and you still need that.

SPEAKER_03 19:46

That can go in the game at any time.

SPEAKER_00 19:47

Yeah, that can go in the game, and because he knows I'm I'm big on next man up. Uh and if you know, kids get sick, unfortunately, kids are uh come out the game, things of that nature. You you you want to make sure you don't you maintain that same pace that you have uh prior prior to getting there. So I mean speaking about again about those three, um I have I I I went to the All-Star, it was a middle school all-star game. I was just going to support in Thailand again, and this is where I ran into Elijah and uh uh for Powell Jew. Um I know when I was at Glenn, this is man, I've been coaching for a hot year, man. So but I started very young, so yeah. Oh, you know, I started out straight out of college at about what, 21, 22, so I've been in a while, so I was just supporting Tylen, wanting to see how Tylen was gonna f look against uh other kids. And this is where I had uh saw Elijah, met Elijah, then Elijah made the decision to uh come come out of the way after about a month or a couple of months outside of that. And you know, small world, um like with uh Cameron Callaway and uh his older brother, our coach at Andrews. That's the connection there. So um those three guys are just they're loyal.

SPEAKER_03 21:05

They're people are loyal. When you're a good coach to them, they're they're loyal for the future. If they have a kid, if they have a cousin or you know, a sibling, if they say, hey, that's the coach I played for most of the time, they want to get them under that umbrella to have that same success they had.

SPEAKER_00 21:17

Especially if you know what you was doing like that. I'll I'll say this. Andrews, I mean, for the most part, doing that, that that run between I want to say 2003 to about 2007, before Abel went over the page. I mean, we dominated. Yeah um when I say dominated, we dominated. I would say for a while it was pretty Andrews was the team. The the team. And uh I see Irv doing his thing, getting them boys roll rolling back out there rolling again. And that's that's basically what I'm I'm doing here at Southern because I know that's one of the things I I talked about to him and a lot of.

SPEAKER_03 21:50

Especially conference play. I feel like I'll turn it around towards the end and went on that win streak.

SPEAKER_00 21:53

We we we did. I mean, it's it's one of those things, man, where you know, I I you know, at the beginning of the season, I had my back. Court is 14 years old. My um um Cameron, who's act technically is Cameron Callaway, is actually a sophomore. Um reclass or is he a true sophomore? No, he's a true sophomore. True sophomore. Okay. Fit 15, he just turned 16. Okay. So I mean, I I mean, I got guys that can't even get behind the car of a wheel uh like playing major minutes.

SPEAKER_03 22:21

And they're driving your offense.

SPEAKER_00 22:23

Pretty much. And you know, we got Josh Akers. Josh cut had come from uh Cloverdale, um, it's like a 1A school. Okay. So he was adjusting, it's a step up and play um in Greensboro. That's that's one thing about Greensboro, like, dude, if you don't show up, it's different in Davidson County where, okay, uh no, we got these wins right here.

SPEAKER_04 22:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 22:43

Not in Greensboro. If you don't show up, you can get you can get your uh your tail handed to you.

SPEAKER_03 22:47

So y'all kind of got stuck in a 5'6 we were talking about earlier instead of what you thought would be like a 4 or 5A.

SPEAKER_00 22:52

So technically we're supposed to be in that conference with Lefford and Andrews and those, but for some reason, yeah, um uh I I'm not at, I can't disclose, but for some reason, we're in that 586A. So it's uh it's like us and uh Northeast, right, Tyler, North and Us, Northeast that are in that um conference with the other 6A schools. But at the end of the day, I'd rather have any other way because I think Tylen's 6'8 seven, a high school player. Yeah. Uh I really believe uh before it's all said and done, he, um, Elijah, Cameron, um, Josh's gonna be a uh uh you're gonna see a totally different player going into his senior year. But I I I believe I got the best three young guys, um true young players, uh guards, specifically. I know we got some swing guards. I know Irv got a swing out there that's really good, but I think I got the the best young group of guards out there. True guards, no reclass, no reclass. Elijah's not a recap class, neither is Tylen.

SPEAKER_03 23:55

So these guys Was that an option though? Is Tylen were you thinking about potentially reclassing, or did you just know straight you're going to it?

SPEAKER_01 24:02

Nah, it was never option for reclassing.

SPEAKER_00 24:05

And you weren't gonna push here like, hey, I could use them now. Well, what my my main thing is if you if it to me, uh everybody's different with the reclass. I mean, it's how you use it, but people, everybody's not Jalen Cohn. Um, everybody's not uh what's the kid out at um Reidsville, the point guard.

SPEAKER_03 24:21

Oh, Deontay?

SPEAKER_00 24:22

Everybody's not Deontay or the big fella, Keandre. Yeah. Um, but but people forget it doesn't matter whether you can reclass or not, they can ball, they can hoop. So it didn't, they're gonna come. That's one of the things I know I talked to Tylen about, Elijah, some of our guys uh on our team. I tell our team the whole time, Jay Stonewell, those guys on our team. Um Jay Stonewell's a returner that we got uh coming, returning to. He'll be a he'll be a uh junior. He's a great ball player too. So people don't sleep on Jay Stonewell. Okay. Um I I tell the guys this all the time. If you can hoop, they're coming. Um you know when I was at Lexington, I mean, playing Juke Harris uh every year twice, it it showed me that you don't have to leave. Because I know it's a little trendy back there in like 2000, I'm not excuse me, 2021, 2022, to to, you know, you had kids leaving chambers, going to out in the middle of night.

SPEAKER_03 25:20

I like you just had that with Smith and Dudley, didn't something happen where some of the things.

SPEAKER_00 25:23

Yeah, some kids left and and and and and all you're doing is leaving to go to another school and um you you're gonna end up at the same destination at the collegiate level.

SPEAKER_04 25:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:31

Um if you're division one, you're gonna know by the time, I would say by the before you're a junior, you're gonna know.

SPEAKER_04 25:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:39

Um now I'm not saying that you don't have late bloomers, that doesn't happen, but naturally, um you'll know. You'll definitely know. Um, you'll be on the they'll be all over you. By the time you're a junior, you you you already know um at the division one level because it's the landscape has changed so much because you got you have people um transferring.

SPEAKER_03 26:01

Transfer, you got the transfer portal in college that kind of is tough on these kids, I feel like, these days, with getting recruited straight out of high school.

SPEAKER_00 26:07

Well, well the thing is they just don't got the they don't have the patience anymore because we we're in a society, even at the high, I'm feeling that the even at the high school level, like to win, like win now, like people see the the talent, but people think like Tylen's a junior. No, he's a freshman.

SPEAKER_04 26:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:23

Uh I think Elijah's a uh a junior scene. No, he's a freshman. I think Cameron's a junior or seeing. No, he's a sophomore, so everybody's expecting O's uh win right now. Win right now. Uh and and and and this is high school basketball's not AAU to where I can just go grab players off the street. Got the running clock and just and just play. So that's something that um I I hope ho I hope and pray that basketball goes away from and people get back to just um I'm I'm not against people recruiting and things of that nature. As long as you do things the right way.

SPEAKER_04 26:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:57

And um and but building.

SPEAKER_04 26:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:59

Building it. And um, you know, um everybody got a different method to their madness uh per se. Um I'm happy with uh I wake up out of the bed good. Every time I see Tyler, you know, every time I see Tyler and Elijah walking the hallways, Ken walking the hallways, I know um Southern Gifford is trending to where it needs to be. But he'll tell you, and the boys will tell you, like, it's bigger than um wins with me. I care more about uh what Tylen does beyond me. Um the same thing with uh any of our student athletes, Jay Stonewell, the guys that play basketball for me, I care about what you do at uh, you know, going to college, uh, getting a trade. I want you to be successful inside and outside of the classroom. That's that means a lot to me.

SPEAKER_03 27:45

And and I'm gonna get a little before I know we're getting close to wrapping up, but I want to get a dive in a little bit and you can answer how you feel. But how do you, as a, you know, let's be honest, in high school now, it's people are recruiting legally, illegally. Um and now you got NIL that's gonna come in stronger than we really see it. I mean, it's gonna happen. I mean, I feel like you know, some people like Grimsley have already took it on, but I think more schools are coming soon with it hitting strong. What if, and I'm sure you're and you don't name anybody, I don't get nobody in trouble, but how do you take that on as a student athlete of like, hey, you you know, stay like you're staying away from that that that you know saying that wrong direction of people coming after you because people, let's be honest, your talent coach knows that people are gonna try and steal you. It it is it's inevitable, man.

SPEAKER_00 28:30

It's it's sad, it's sad that we have to talk about during the season, before the season, probably right now. You see the look on his face, yeah. It's ridiculous out here.

SPEAKER_01 28:39

Yeah, so talk a little bit about that, like just the like uh for me seeing NIL and it and it how it's doing right now, it's more like I I really want to get into it. Like I really want to start, I really want to start doing NIL. Like, I really want the money and all that.

SPEAKER_03 28:56

Have you thought about trying getting the stuff? Because you can do it now as a student athlete. I can really do it. Yeah. I just gotta I have to do it. It's kind of unique because to me is it's well deserved for you guys. So like I know some people are gonna start their own brand, you can do stuff like that. So is that something you we could see Thailand doing the next two years?

SPEAKER_01 29:14

Yeah, I say give or take another like a year or two. I'm gonna try to get me some money and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 29:19

That's good. But you but so what what keeps you at Southern Guilford then? Let's be honest, let's talk right here. Like I know Coach is here, but let's tune coach out for a second. Why? Yeah, we sweating on the country.

SPEAKER_01 29:28

Yeah, I know he's gonna stuff that keeps me over at Southern Guildford. Yeah. It's always gonna be the culture. Something about that culture. Like, you just like, yeah, I love this culture. Like it screams, SG. Like you wanna be here and stuff. And the other thing is it's more like the coaching, the brotherhood, all that stuff. You just gotta like, you just gotta you gotta take it in and just be like, man, I wanna play for that brother. I want to play for all of them. I wanna keep on playing for them. I'll go dive on that ball for you and all that. That's what that's what that's what I that's what I keeps me at sudden go for it. I don't really care for like the wins or losses and stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03 30:05

It's that brotherhood that's just the brotherhood. Like you're gonna be like coach looking back one day, talking about the players he played with and stuff. All that I want to thank y'all for me on this episode, and we're about to do my last segment. What I love to do is I call them quick hitters as a coach, as a coach to coach. I love those little quick hitting plays against the defense you draw up. So you both of y'all have to think. Don't even think. Just the first thing when I ask you this question. It's a fun thing I like to have.

SPEAKER_01 30:27

Gotcha. All right.

SPEAKER_03 30:28

All right. King of the court, who wins on the team?

SPEAKER_01 30:30

Me. I like my eyes, for sure. Me.

SPEAKER_03 30:33

Coach is hesitant right here. He's like, ooh.

SPEAKER_00 30:37

Let me put it this way: box office. When I say box office, because I've uh Thailand is super competitive. Yeah. Um, I would love to be in that gym. Let me put it that way. We're gonna charge. We're gonna charge admission, lad. Lord have mercy, because I I know the other two I got that's super competitive. We got a lot of guys on our team that they they believe they can beat anybody. Yeah, yeah. So uh I I would love to be in that that gym for that. Let me put it that way.

SPEAKER_03 31:02

Uh funniest excuse for being late to practice. Try to get gas.

SPEAKER_00 31:08

Oh, what was it? What was it? What did we get? Uh try to get gas. Yeah, the guy to get gas, trash.

SPEAKER_03 31:16

Anything you can think of at all coach, not just Southern in general, the funniest excuse you heard for being late to practice.

SPEAKER_00 31:23

Um we uh a tire was flat. I'm just like, stop it, man. Especially when you got rules and you know how it is. Like, come on, man. You got, you know, uh, I know I'm older, but come on, man. We got cell phones, man. If you you if you you know you you rolling around on some May pops. We come skip together. Yeah, yeah. We got we got Coach McGribble, we got people that can come pick you up. You got we had a lot of seniors on our team that had licenses. Come on now. You gotta be resourceful, man. That's we we can't have that type of attitude because we know if the game gets tight, you ain't diving on the floor for the ball.

SPEAKER_03 31:58

So yeah. And uh full court man or pick them up at half court?

SPEAKER_00 32:02

Full court man. Full court man. Full court man.

SPEAKER_03 32:06

Oh man. All right, all right, and then my last one, uh, this will be a funny one. Um Thailand versus Coach. Who wins? Taking my chances any day. You hear this coach?

SPEAKER_01 32:18

Nine times out of ten.

SPEAKER_03 32:19

What's the score? What's the final score?

SPEAKER_01 32:20

11-0.

SPEAKER_00 32:21

Oh no, I'm gonna go. Um I'll say this. Look. Come on, coach. I was as a freshman, he was better than me.

SPEAKER_03 32:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 32:28

He was better than me.

SPEAKER_03 32:28

Okay, coach being humble right here. You know what that means. I think he, I mean, I think it might have been competitive, Tyler.

SPEAKER_00 32:34

I might be uh uh he he was a lot taller. I was this size in the sixth grade and I ain't growing anymore. Five, nine, five, ten. Tyler, Tyler's better, was better. I'm gonna take coach to the paint. I don't no, I don't know about all that.

SPEAKER_03 32:47

You know what I told Coach? I said you can, but I'm gonna foul you in the night.

SPEAKER_00 32:50

We we would have battled. We would have battled, but nah, nah, he'd have got me as a freshman, man. They them boy, these boys, uh these young fellas uh that that that just walked in the door by the grace of God, they're they're not your typical freshman. So I've gotten that a lot in games that we played. They be like, hey, number three, he's gonna be a good ball player. Uh he's gonna be a senior next year. I was like, nah, he's 14, man. He's a what? Yes. Yeah. You know, um, you get that about some of the other guys on our team, too. So I'm that's a good thing for a coach to have to hear that. Yeah, I'm excited, and um, it gets me uh gets me my heart, my blood boiling and pumping to get out here to make sure um we can get the right guys around Tylen, Elijah, Jay Stormweld, um, Cameron Callaway. Okay, and and Josh Akers, man. We're trying to we're we're gonna build this thing. You know, I'm gonna I'm big on, I learned it from uh Abel, guys like uh Coach Abel, um Matt Ridge, just doing things the right way. The Carolina Way. And I know he loves Duke.

SPEAKER_03 33:51

Carolina Way, I love that.

SPEAKER_00 33:52

I love that.

SPEAKER_03 33:54

Me too, me too. I gotta get Carolina Way, baby.

SPEAKER_01 33:57

Uh I don't know about that. You forgot we got Slim and Cambuja. That's all we need. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_03 34:02

Well I want to thank y'all both, and I'd love, Coach, to have you back sometime. Two other players, maybe bring those other two you're talking about, and we can go on the Burrow Buzz with. All right. Sounds like a most definitely sounds like a plan. Well, make sure you like, subscribe, and check us out the Borough Buzz, Spotify, YouTube, hit us up on Instagram and Facebook, and we'll see you next time. Ready to dominate social media? Meet Core AI Media, your expert team of videographers and digital strategists powering data driven campaigns with cutting edge AI. We analyze, target, engage, monitor in real time, and deliver results that surprise industry standards. From skyrocketing engagement to crushing your goals, we are measured by results. Contact Core AI Media today at infocoreai media.com. Let's grow your brand fast.