Jacob's College Investment Property

Welcome to an exciting episode of Real Estate for the REAL Good! We're delighted to have you join us for a captivating exploration of real estate success and strategic investment.

In this episode, we're thrilled to introduce you to Jacob, a young achiever who defied convention and turned his first home into a savvy investment property during his college years. Bucking the trend of mounting student loan debt, Jacob emerged triumphant, graduating from the University of Oklahoma with an impressive positive net worth.

Join us as Jacob and his father take center stage to recount their journey, sharing the art of acquiring, leasing, and managing a property with minimal initial investment. Instead of throwing money away on rent, Jacob enjoyed 3 rent free years, living in a home that he owned and was simultaneously building equity in.

To ensure a comprehensive exploration, we've split this captivating narrative into two parts. Part A delves into Jacob's formative years, painting a vivid picture of his upbringing in his parents' home—a bedrock that paved the way for his exceptional ability to independently own and manage property from such a young age.

Stay tuned for Part B, slated for release next week, where we'll dive into the concrete numbers and unveil real-life insights into the delicate balance of managing tenants while pursuing an education.

Don't miss this chance to gain valuable insights and perspectives that could reshape your own journey in the world of real estate.

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Transcript

Hey guys welcome to the inaugural episode of real estate for the real good I'm Nathan Karsten your host a North Texas realtor and investor throughout my real estate Journey I've witnessed a transformative potential that real estate offers individuals families and communities providing them with opportunities they might not ever have had so whether you're considering buying your first primary residence amidst today's challenging Market pondering the idea of investing in real estate for financial growth or simply seeking to use your home to intentionally bless others this podcast is for you normally I'll have the pleasure of co-hosting the show with my wife Kristen however today we have a special guest co-host my 10 year old son his name is Brady and I just couldn't pass up the opportunity to learn together with him as we got to have this conversation with another father and son who are just a few steps ahead of where we're going in today's episode we'll dive into Jacob's remarkable Journey he'll be sharing how he cleverly turned his first home into an investment property during his years at the University of Oklahoma remarkably Jacob defied the norm steering clear of the burden of student loan debt and instead successfully graduated college with a positive GPA and net worth so stay tuned as Jacob and his dad reveal his story of acquiring Leasing and managing the property with minimal initial investment This brilliant approach not only allowed Jacob to enjoy three rent-free years during his university life but also led to significant appreciation and the value of his home provide a comprehensive account we'll be dividing this episode into two parts Part A will focus on Jacob's upbringing in his parents home a vital Foundation that prepared him to independently own and manage property at such a young age in Part B which we'll release next week will get into the numbers and provide real-life insights into managing tenants while also attending University so buckle up for an inspiring and informative ride as we hear Jacob's extraordinary real estate Journey welcome to real estate for the real good a podcast based right here in Denton Texas I'm your host Nathan and I'm here today with a special guest co-host my son Brady the mission of our podcast is to see individuals and communities flourish through real estate we want to find the people and places experiencing the blessings of God through the joy of surrender to his Direction Brady how are you doing today I'm good doing good yeah how's the summer been treating you hot yeah well I am so glad to have you be asked my co-host today because I think we'll be able to learn a lot together in our discussion particularly with the guests that we have today so let me introduce our very first guest to the show my longtime friend Luis and his son Jacob later on we'll we'll be getting into y'all's story that I've had the privilege to follow over the last four years through my conversations with your dad Jacob on how you were able to purchase your first home right out of high school with your parents health of course and now have graduated college with no student loan debt big equity in your house and have a solid find Financial Foundation as you really get started in your young adult life I think it's a story that really shows what may be possible on the other side of the coin for the reality of so many young adults graduating college with suffocating student loans and no Financial Security to speak of so your story of course may not be repeatable for every college student but I think it is for many I just don't think homeownership real estate investing or even Financial education are being modeled well in a broad sense by our older generations and even when they are there is even less intentional training or discussion on the matter so um I hope for your story in this episode that others will their eyes will really be opened and they'll be encouraged to see what might be possible and I think really with your story I think in the real sense I have um the belief that it it could really set somebody's future on a different path and then what it would have been if they'd never heard this episode so welcome to the show Luis and Jacob uh we're so glad you're here thank you thank you very much thanks for having us yeah we'll get started um just with some introductions in uh and we'll just let you guys Luis will start with you tell a little more about yourself your family what you do for a living um and anything else that you you might want to share okay Luis Gutierrez uh married been married for 20 years got two boys Jacob 22 Mason's 18. so already grown uh we've lived in this area for 20 years and um I'm a firefighter in Richardson I've been there for a little over 18 years and that's how I met Nate we've known each other since he started I like to say about two years after me I think it was just about 17 months is that right something like that yeah but uh yes it worked for fire department to hang out with my family and enjoyed raising my boys and now getting to be on the other side of that and watching them be young men and kind of set out on their own paths yeah and I would just want to say um and you and I've you know I've told you before but but would want everybody else to know just how much of respect the way that you've LED your family um and the way you've carried yourself on the fire department so it's you've always been someone that I've been glad to to look to to kind of set as an example of you know somebody a couple steps ahead of where where I was and so uh so so glad that you're here um can you share a little bit more about your experience with homeownership um even growing up as a kid uh what what you saw modeled in your family and then uh yeah just just the your thoughts around home ownership in general okay uh so growing up you know we lived in a house you know it was never renting or in an apartment or anything like that but there was no discussion on it you know my parents didn't have much growing up and when they got out of the house they were able to purchase a home back in the 70s and we lived in the same house the whole time growing up but there wasn't discussion about real estate or investment or a home being a good idea for an investment something that can set you up for the future I didn't know anything about that that more so came along as I once I moved away from Amarillo and came to the Metroplex got on the fire department you start learning from other people and you know we've talked about it one of the places you can learn a ton of things just sitting around the kitchen table at the fire station you may learn you know some of it good some of it bad but there's definitely a lot of discussion and you know I picked up a lot of things from that and so being early on in my career just the older guys talking about hey get out of an apartment you want to make sure you get a house you want to make sure you set that Foundation and so that was kind of my plan and I started working in 2004 and bought my bought a house at in 2006. you know and been a homeowner since and I guess I can even rewind before that when I was 19 I bought my first house in Amarillo and that that was something that I'm not for sure where that came from it had to be a God thing just something he spoke to me about you know I looked at rent on apartments and saw the price and then started talking to you know my sister who's older she had just bought a house and asking her about her mortgage it's like man the price is the same I think I could do that you know so I was able to purchase a house at 19. and you had a job that you were able to qualify for the mortgage at 19. yes yes I just started at a you know I didn't go to college it's not something that I ever wanted to do and I worked at a copper Refinery so I made decent money for the time and I was able to qualify and my parents they came and they were the co-signers for for myself as well okay so you you you experienced the co-signorship too yes okay great I didn't know that I did and um so I had that house and I kept that for a couple years until you know life happens things happen and I end up selling that house and we moved over here we left Amarillo and moved to the Metroplex so after after having that that house for a couple years what what was your situation as far as equity in the home and did you walk away with it with any money or no at the time let's see this was I bought it in 99 and then when I moved out was 2002 and it kind of everything was pretty down at the time which is one of the reasons I sold it copper Market had gone down everything changed after September 11th so prices had an increase like they have as you know recently sure so when I left after realtor fees and everything I just broke even but you know I didn't lose any money on it and when I got out I you know I was able to get out just yeah right yeah and even just the experience of going through the buying process and having that knowledge um you know I'm sure give you some confidence As you move forward um with buying your next yes yeah it definitely taught me a lot you know as far as setting everything up you know you got to get all your utilities set up paying bills on time home insurance uh escrow all those type of things and then just taking care of your home yeah yeah that's a big deal the maintenance yeah and then so um fast forward a little bit before we get to you Jacob uh as you guys um I mean obviously you have owned homes uh since moving to DFW do you want to share a little bit about your experience on home ownership now and and how you've seen it benefits your you and your family either financially or just in the sense of being able to create a home um create some stability uh what are some positive negatives that you've you've experienced and or have been able to share with your with your sons as you've thought about home ownership I think it's been a big part of it my goal was to have a home already established before Jacob started kindergarten and so when we bought that house in 2006 in Keller who was a you know I was looking for something we could afford a good school district and a place where you know young families we could kind of start off raising our boys in a stable situation and not you know switching Apartments every six months or year whenever the lease was up right so we bought that house and he started school and was able to go kindergarten all the way through graduating in the same school district um and that big part of that was being in the home we ended up buying I guess two other homes before he graduated but they were both in that same school district and each time we were able to you know the first one we bought had zero money down then the next time we were able to put a bigger down payment down and then the next house the same way we we gained money on each one yeah and able to purchase something that at the beginning would have never thought we'd be able to do that yeah yeah it's such a great way even for someone who may not be um okay in a mindset of investing um a way to passively kind of enforce or Force some investing experience or even just just that you know you're yeah you're forced to collect this this appreciation on your home that you you may not even really be educated in before you get started yeah at the beginning it wasn't the plan it just you know but it was a definite benefit yeah that's great okay uh yeah Jacob um let's let's get to you uh I mean obviously I I'm aware of some uh recent changes in in your life but uh of course our listener listeners might not be um so uh yeah just go through the last uh really I mean I'd love to hear even just the last few months this summer of all the changes have been going through um and then we'll get into your decision on on wanting to buy buy your first home and everything later on but yeah just kind of give an introduction on who you are what you're doing uh what all God's doing in your life right yeah yeah uh name is Jacob Gutierrez and this last year has been quite the interesting one for me um it's really been a culmination of everything that I've been trying to you know get started in my life it's been goals and dreams being realized and um I guess it's kind of kind of difficult um to really portray in picture even for me to realize how big of a deal it is um but yeah I mean this last may all within three days um I graduated to be the first graduate when my family first generation uh with a bachelor's degree from a large University I just graduated from the University of Oklahoma with a bachelor of Business Administration uh focused on entrepreneurship and Venture Management I also commissioned to the Air Force's second Lieutenant currently an officer and moving on to active duty this coming September and I also got engaged and so life has been happening it's been happening fast uh all that happened within three days graduated on Friday had my commencement on Saturday and then I commissioned and got engaged on that Sunday so God's really been working he's really been pushing me and forcing me to grow really you know um extra responsibilities and things like that but it's really cool that it doesn't feel like this huge massive change because it's been something that's been coming it's been something that you know through my work with with God with my dad with my family and everybody it's something that I've been prepared for not something that oh my goodness it's just slapped me in the face but you know the the past four years of preparing to become an officer and even before that knowing that this is what I wanted to do and this is what I'm you know both seeing my life towards doing and so then when it comes it doesn't feel like oh my gosh all this weight is on my shoulders now it's you know this this is what I'm supposed to do and it feels right because yeah um following what God has told me to do yeah that's so great I mean in in whether or not we we are able to um always step in directly to to what we envisioned our future would be um I think uh just just taking the the mindset of God this is where you have me today this I'm going to be obedient in this moment and take the next step forward that you're lighting the path for me absolutely uh I know that wherever you take me I know that you're gonna yeah you're gonna take me to The Next Step as well so uh there's plenty of examples about that that we can share today for sure yeah looking forward to it we've got you graduated from college this this summer you're commissioned as a second lieutenant in the Air Force what's your job gonna be yep so I picked up my Air Force specialty code is 92 to t0 which is pilot trainee uh so thankfully all the stars aligned once again I did all the things that I was supposed to do and God kept me on this path to become a pilot for the United States Air Force so I'm heading to undergraduate pilot training to go get to learn how to fly airplanes for world's greatest air force so yeah that's pretty sweet yeah you're starting uh in the fall so why where will you be based yeah so I'm going up to the Vance Air Force Base which is in Enid Oklahoma which is one of three pilot training bases that uh the Air Force currently trains Pilots out of um but they're doing it a little bit of an interesting way I have to go on what's called casual status first so I'll be active duty but I'll be more helping out around the base possibly there's a couple different jobs that I could pick up but a lot of them are going to be admin stuff mainly just to get my pay going get me acclimated to being on active duty and things like that and I'm just waiting for my actual class to start to start so once my undergraduate pilot training starts right now that's scheduled for next May a lot of people have been getting bumped up so that could be as early as February or March or something like that not 100 sure but and how long do you think you'll be in Enid in Enid so once undergraduate pilot training starts that's 10 days longer than a year so 375 days so once that starts I'll be there for another at least a year yeah okay so more than likely I'll be there about a year and eight months or so okay great and uh what's when so you're engaged yes which do you have a date set for the wedding yes November 19th November 19th yeah okay great all right well um yeah I think one more thing before we we get into your decision on on buying your home your first home is just kind of thinking back through your childhood and even middle school high school uh and we got to hear from your dad of course but but what are some things that you were able to observe and I think this will be really helpful for me as I think about the way um that Brady is is seeing me you know make my own decisions financially or investing or the way that we run our home um so so what are some some things that um you're you feel like your mom and your dad did well in kind of preparing you for and and specifically I think for financial and you know even even in your decision for purchasing the home um and then if there are some things um that you that you think uh you know if you feel comfortable sharing some things that uh maybe you you were surprised by that you maybe you wish it had been more explicit or explained better or um from them as well yeah absolutely that's a wonderful question something that I'd love to be able to talk on um I think one of the biggest things was growing up they're very open very honest with us about financials and things that are going on um you know if we ask the question of hey why can't we have Wendy's every night it's just hey we don't have the money for it right and that's just as simple as it gets um and then even moving into buying our other homes we built our second home um I guess that would have been what 2014 around there 2014 we built uh the second home and we were moving out of that first childhood home that we bought in 06 and uh see even me speaking about it now I'd say we just because that's how it's always felt you know it's always been family it's always been an us decision even with me and my little brother when we went to the house we got to help pick out okay how are we going to design this thing you know what are we going to do with the cabinets little things like that and um financials were never hidden um you know that's one thing that's always surprised me when talking to my other friends and stuff about you know just what their parents do and things like that they're like I don't even know how much they make and I don't know what they're doing I don't know any of this stuff and you know it's not to say that oh you should know every little detail but for me it helped out a lot because the transparency allowed me to learn you know when I'm looking at I'm 13 14 years old and they're looking at purchasing a home and I'm involved in that decision you know it's cool I take it seriously and it forces me to learn and grow with them because they were learning and growing at the same time it wasn't a foreign concept exactly so I got to learn and grow with them and that's one of the coolest things is great that has been awesome is they haven't hidden any of that stuff they were very humble about where they're at they were very honest about where they're at and if they were learning something they wanted to make sure that we were learning it because at that point that puts us 20 years ahead of them you know I mean and that's and so it's encouraging to me because I I got to see that from afar yeah and I can just I remember being in y'all's house and and you guys had that chalkboard in your uh living room yeah and it just had listed out all these different financial goals yeah goal you know goals for your family and goals for paying off getting getting your paying off debt and so uh it's encouraging to me that that you receive that so well and so um even in Goods you know you may be able to speak on this a little bit better uh and and for listeners uh goots is also Luis is also goose and so that's a lot easier at the fire department um uh that's that's that's his name and so you'll probably hear me refer to him as Goods again uh but did did you feel like as you guys were leading out in that and and being open was it um was it natural for you to do that in a way that uh that that's kind of the way you would have done it anyways or was was it intentional um to do it in that way so that um Jacob and Mason would be able to really um grow along with that or I mean that you guys I think are just especially Betty your wife are are just uh open people I think and and so I think some of that probably came naturally but was there some intentionality in that as well no I mean I'd like to be able to say it was intentional you know we planned it out but definitely not I mean if you knew very nice story from the very beginning you just see that we're both very different people and when God got a hold of us and changed our lives we made a decision just to to follow him to go wherever we're led to go to do what he calls us to do and so really it just came natural it was just part of raising the boys and having a family and doing things together it's just what we did uh you know hearing about it now or seeing it now I see that those things stuck but there wasn't an intentionality behind it as far as like I want to show them so that they could do this in the future it was just kind of what we did you know it's the way that I guess God led us yeah you know to raise our boys and I think there's an openness that comes from that that place of surrender with God yes so there's a lot of um you know even with Brady or or my girls or with my family that the times that it are it's difficult for me to to have that openness with them are the times when I'm I'm leading out on my own I'm I've got all the weight on my shoulder for whether or not whatever I'm trying to do is going to be a success or a failure um but when I when yeah when I can get to this place of surrender of like God you have me here whether it works out or not it's going to be on your you know like is is your plan and so I you know it's it's not uh you know as we move forward in in this thing that I thought was going to turn into one thing it becomes another it's not necessarily a failure on my part and so I I'm more free um to be open you know as as you guys I think have done really well for your boys yeah yeah I'd love to speak to that as well I think one of the biggest factors in it has been the humility um you know he's always LED with the um the truth behind it he sent me something on Instagram the other day is uh your dad your father is going to be the only man that'll be truly happy with you being better than him and he's always led us with that you know mindset and it's been so cool because for us growing up Dad's a firefighter I'm sure you can understand this right it's so cool uh he's your hero he does everything uh he's always been the Pinnacle of the type of man that I want to be but he's always LED with the mindset of he wants us to be better he wants us to learn and you know his ceiling where he reaches in life he wants that to be our stepping stone he wants that to be you know this that's where we're pushing off of and um he's really taught me to lead with that mentality as well and so that's my goal for my kids is for that to be the exact same but as far as the intentionality of sharing with us I think a lot of that came out of that mindset just that humility of hey if I'm learning this now but you'll have the opportunity to learn this when you're still eight nine years old um it's kind of just logically it makes sense that y'all are going to be able to do more things than I was because you're all learning things that I'm learning at 30 at you know 10 years old and so I think that that aspect is part of you know following god making sure that you know God wants you to continue to grow and for your family to become prosperous so that you can share with more people and um I think that's just part of it I think that it went hand in hand and that's something that was always modeled for us yeah that's great yeah and and uh for for me I I've I've kind of got this catch that I think God is is trying to uh take away from me on on Prosperity financially uh especially at you know I've I feel like and I think maybe a reaction to the Prosperity Gospel but uh this this feeling that like anything that God gives me outside of my direct spiritual relationship with him is is either um something that he's you know best just not involved in or uh at worst it's something he's really against and so anything that I pursued um in in business or uh financially has always been this thing like okay I've got to go do this thing on my own apart from what what God is leading me in and um yeah I think as we uh you know as I'm as as I'm growing maturing and I'm work and I'm working with other believers and um you know you see that you know part of God's kingdom coming on Earth is this is this flourishing you know another part of what the the podcast I think I really want to be about is um in flourishing in all areas of our life in in and of course we're not promised um Health we're not promised money we're not promised any of these things but as a general rule these things start become become a byproduct of what of our obedience um in our surrender to his plan they can be um and so whether God you know like Paul says you know I've learned um contentment in in plenty or in want um you know wherever God has me is where he has me whether that's in abundance of financial position that I can share and give and and and and bring his kingdom forward in that way or it's if it's in in you know Financial want um I'm content with what he what he's provided you know just in in Jesus in a relationship with him and I'm rich and can give out of that as well so yeah um yeah and so just this idea of of whatever God gives us whatever He blesses us with is is ours in the sense only that he's he wants us to bless others and in a way that Reveals His glory yep um to other people yeah and um I think the big deal with that is just recognizing that it's all given to us yeah so just learning from even the story of job that he was very wealthy and prosperous but all of it was taken away but the thing that we had to learn from that is that he never turned his back on God he never forsake God he never cursed him he never said how dare you do this to me because everything that he had beforehand was given to him and so with with the humility of you know hey I don't deserve any of this so I think that's one of the biggest things is when you make good decisions in your life and it does end up um yielding fruit sometimes you start to feel like you've you've earned that like that's yours but recognizing that at the root of it all every breath that you take is given to you and so then therefore from everything past that it's also given to you and can also be taken away yeah and so to have the humility to just know that you know I'm enjoying this while I have it and I want to be able to use this too um share with other people because that's been a cool thing growing up I can count on probably about half of my life we've had somebody else living with us and it's been something that was just made possible by you know as we grew as the family moved further we had more money to be able to bless others and so if a cousin was down and out and they needed somewhere to stay we're like cool absolutely we got an extra room those are just things that just can't happen if you don't have money and so um that's been the example that I've been taught with and so that's what I'd love to be able to do is to be able to bless others and so the the prosperity setting myself up to be financially free I'd like to be able to be financially free for myself so that I can give to others and it's been modeled for me and so I'd love to be able to continue to do that yeah yeah so good he's reminded me of a lot of things like when I you know I said there was an intentionality what there there wasn't an intentionality as far as teaching them Investments or things like that but yeah always I knew how I knew my mindset and where I'd come from and I always wanted them to be better like he talked about so I figured there's never it's never too early for them to learn yeah you know let them learn so they can continue on and then as far as our house when we made a decision to move from the one to the other I didn't even think about the investment part of it or what it may return but I know we wanted something bigger because they were they were getting to be teenagers we wanted something with more room where they could bring their friends over they could feel welcome they could hang out we had more space for family to come in and through that we were able to we had the space for when people needed it you know we didn't plan that we didn't know that yeah that was going to work but you know my parents lived there I had a nephew lived there for a little while we've had one of Mason's friends stayed there quite a bit um so we've guys just opened those doors you know we just kind of okay let's let's do this it it felt like something the guy was putting on a heart we're obedient to do it and then he turned it into a whole lot more and then at the end of the day yeah it also became an investment for us to be able to yeah to continue to uh well yeah and that's that speaks to again it's just God giving you this like okay I'm gonna light the path yes one step yeah one step I'm gonna light the path maybe two steps yeah and and then say okay like I don't see how you're gonna take this you know right or it's even a step that I I don't I don't understand how it's going to benefit my family in the short run and all or benefit me or prevent any benefit anyone um but just being obedient with that one step and then being able to look back on what God has brought you through and how he has blessed you um just continues to increase that faith that you have in in being able to take that next step right one more time so that's great um before we one more time before we get into your story to buy your house Jacob um just you know give Brady a chance you know as you've been listening if you have any questions before we move on about um how Jake was raised or did your dad make you more than one in the heat oh yeah yeah man I don't know that you want to know about how I grew up because uh I think probably started we got pictures when I was about two or three of me helping him mow the lawn I would stand on the little you know how there's two bars on the lawnmower he would stand on the top one I'd be on the little one so he's training me up just to be able to help out uh from even back then but um I was talking to my fiance yesterday actually um because we were out there working out in the Heat or he was and um he came in and reminded me of how you know we grew up and we would be out there in the Heat and I would be carrying these buckets of water up and down the street or he brought a tractor tire home from the fire uh Department I'd be flipping that up and down the um up and down the driveway when I was about your age here size and so but yeah that was that was something that we always did and it it seems like mean it seems like uh oh this is super hard but it sets you up for your future now because when the Air Force tells me to go do some workout or go do anything it's like oh this is a piece of cake I did harder stuff I was mowing the lawn out when it was 115 degrees you know I was in the garage working out and so it it sucks during it but then later you'll be like man I'm tougher than everybody at my school like you're gonna go to high school and they're gonna tell you to do a workout and everybody's gonna be dying and you're gonna be like man I did this when I was eight you know what I mean so you what are what are some good ways do you think that uh your dad encouraged you to do that uh point of like well I don't do I how hard do I push in a way that pushes him past his his limit but doesn't push him so hard that he doesn't ever want to yeah listen um I don't know if there's any uh Perfection about any bit of it and I don't know that there's any way to reach that Perfection because uh we did get to Point sometimes where I'm like I don't ever want to touch a weight again I don't ever want to touch a football again I don't want to do anything physical ever again because I hate this but then there's other times that we got to a point where it's like man this is the greatest thing that's ever happened to me and I want to be a professional baseball player you know what I mean um and so I think the biggest part of it that that made the difference for us is seeing the love behind it seeing the the truth behind everything that went on was because he loved us and he wanted us to be better you know and he wanted to push us he wanted us to he wanted a lot lot of times he wanted us to want more for ourselves than we wanted you know what I mean um but the the reality behind it every single time was that there was love and because sometimes it did go too far and sometimes it wasn't perfect and I don't like I said I don't know that there is a perfect formula yeah I don't know that you'll ever be able to sit down and look at it and from both sides everybody can say yep that was done to the exact limit because if you think it was done to you know the actual end it probably wasn't you know I mean oh he pushed me to my limit you never know where that limit is Until It Breaks sometimes and but in reality we knew at the end of the day where it was coming out of yeah that's I think that for me that's something I want to grow in more is is because Brady feels it I think is just I'm I'm always I'm always in like a correcting mode because I'm seeing a lot of it is is faults that I grew up with and so I see those I see hit my faults that he's struggling with and I and I and I and I feel like I know how to pull him yeah out of those but a lot of times it's so much that it's there's there's less of like just enjoying being together what do you think be

yeah I think so it's always something that we can work on huh yeah and yeah that'll never stop because then you'll feel like oh now I've got my own place I don't gotta clean and then you look at it two weeks later and it's like oh this is terrible I really do need to clean that's crazy yeah it's just it won't get a little get into that in a minute about just yet yeah the little things yeah but no I I definitely can feel with you Brady because I'm the oldest child you're the oldest child and it's not something that everybody understands but um it's it's a good responsibility and you're gonna love it growing up right now um some things may seem tough but make sure that you enjoy every bit of it because being a kid especially being the oldest and being able to take care of your little siblings and just be there be that you know be that grown-up you know how it is you're the man of the household and he's on when he's out at work and stuff like that and so you know take on that responsibility you're not going to be perfect but take it in stride I think Dad can talk to a little bit that you were talking about with when you start to see some of the things preparing parenting a little bit out of that fear and the struggle you know yeah definitely that's what I say if you listen to Jake gives me definitely way too much credit it makes me sound like I had it all together and I did everything right and that wasn't the case at all I definitely failed many many times and I pushed him way too hard many times and um was too hard on them and a lot of my parenting especially for him as my oldest was out of fear yeah I didn't want him to do the same things that I did or turn out the same way that I turned out and make the same mistakes that I did and so I I pushed him hard and he was the oldest so he got most of it and um so I definitely didn't do everything right now it's only by the grace of God that we're able to have a conversation and he sees it as such a positive anyway because it definitely the love was always there and I always loved him and always one of the best for him and when I would push too hard it's like you know there was definitely no ill intent behind any of it but I just didn't do things right you know you learn and grow and mature over time but the the idea behind it was always to see him reach the potential that God had for him and so yeah it may sound good now but I definitely um did a lot of things that I shouldn't and went too hard but I think for you Brady at the end of the day the fact that you have a dad that loves you and that cares about you that is intentional wanting to see wanting to do the right things as a father to to help raise you the right way to see you succeed is a it's a huge blessing that you may not know now but as you get older you'll see like that's not all that common to have a dad in the home that loves and cares about their kids that much and make sacrifices and does everything possible to to pour into you and to raise you the right way so there'll definitely be mistakes along the way yeah um but doing the things that you don't like to do as far as cleaning mowing picking up after your sisters whatever it may be you may not necessarily enjoy it and you may never learn to enjoy it but it's part of growth and discipline and and doing the thing sometimes just because we have to right now I don't like this but I know I got to do it so I'm going to do it you know so it's you'll get there yeah yeah and it's it's all part of it yeah it's all part of growth and Brady of course and I think a lot of us do this is uh you know I I expect Brady to respond with maturity that I have after 38 years of life and lessons in Hard Knocks in God um using his Rod to beat his uh just wisdom in you know into my head when I'm refusing to take it so uh you know I have a lot more to learn obviously but um and then just you know it's just uh just having Grace and you know just hearing you guys speak that over Brady um for where he's at and um and then for and then just trusting where God's Gonna where he's gonna take him so yeah that's great yeah I mean just he's he's a he's a good young man so you know he's learning and growing and I can look back I think part of why raisin was definitely a big part of why raising ideas just the way that my dad was with me yeah and he made me clean every Saturday and get up early and I hated I hated every bit of it and then I'd have to go work with them and we would paint fences and pick up horse poop and Mowing and all the stuff that I absolutely hated but looking back now those are my best memories with my dad because we were together we worked together we would take lunches and eat these little cold sandwiches that ended up the best and drink a Coke or something and so they're great memories looking back and so as you get older like right now you're gonna be like what I gotta clean again I don't even see anything on the floor I'm like sweeping it or vacuuming it you know but as you get older and you're with your kids you'll be like man those are cool times with my dad you know we worked together we were in the heat we suffered together a little bit but we made it you know yeah um I think big thing just to speak to you and any other dads out there the big thing for me uh that made the difference and I mean I know that he messed up a lot I know that there were times that things went too far and you know things are done or I got pushed to a point to where you know I wasn't very happy um but what really brought that out and what allows us to be able to sit here and talk about it and laugh about it and um just see it as a positive is the pure humility he um you know growing up and going to the University of Oklahoma I interacted with a lot of people um that are very different from myself and one one thing that I found is a lot of people have you know dads that are just very inactive they don't like they I know a majority of the people that I've talked to there they're like yeah my dad's never told me that he loves me and he's never told me that he's sorry for me that that was just a foreign concept I didn't understand it um but I think that that's been that being able to be a foreign concept is one of the biggest blessings of my life because he was always humble enough even to me being you know seven or eight year old he was humble enough to come back to me and be like hey that was too far I'm sorry yeah that shouldn't have happened it won't happen again and if it does I'm gonna apologize to you again he was never he was never too prideful to come to a seven or eight year old and be like hey I was wrong yeah and um you know everything that has gone on um that maybe shouldn't have and even some of the things that I didn't think was necessarily wrong if he's looked back on it and or felt convicted by God about it he's come to us just openly and just been like hey guys this is the truth he'll sit the whole family down tell us where he messed up and um that's been a great example of what a man should be to me and it is it's a hard example to follow but it's it's one that's well worth it and it's made all the difference because I think that if we grew up and were raised the way that we were without that without being told that he loves us every single day multiple times a day growing up and even past being out of the house um we wouldn't have the same perspective on what our childhood was we wouldn't have the same perspective on it okay that was to teach us that was to help us grow because we just wouldn't know because even if he had the same heart behind it but he never told us that yeah we wouldn't understand it we'd be like he's just mean he's just making us do this but the humility to be able to say hey this is where that came out of yeah it went too far it was wrong but you know I do love y'all I am sorry this is going to change and then the real humility to actually act on that and to allow seven eight and you know when I was 10 years old my brother was six so a 10 and six year old to hold you to your word um I think that that takes a lot for a man you know even though they're your children it it does take a lot to be able to be like hey when a six-year-old calls me out on something that I said I wasn't going to do anymore because believe me that six-year-old would tell him yeah Mason didn't have any issue if that said three years ago hey make sure that this doesn't happen again Mason be like oh yeah you're doing it again and he's got to be like ah all right and he takes it on the chin and yeah and goes with it you know it's so easy to be like all right but I'm your dad so blah blah blah I'm this so you know just listen to me but there was always humility there was always he treated us even though we were you know ten and six cheerless is equals he treated us as people that he could trust yeah and that and that and that shows in in just the way that you guys are you know the way that you interact with adults you know it's just even as you guys were were young men uh even before graduating so just the way that you could have a conversation with adults and uh in in the confidence that you had so you know that that feeds into that as well as we bring this episode of real estate for the real good to a close we want to extend our sincere gratitude to you our early listeners thank you for joining us on this journey and we hope that today's discussion has left you both informed and encouraged one of the most significant takeaways from today's episode is the reminder that no one has all the answers especially when it comes to Parenting and guiding our children to follow God and make wise decisions as adults I'm coming to realize that being present vulnerable and humble can compensate for most any uncertainties we may have as we grow and learn alongside our kids a special thank you goes out to our guest co-host Brady it was wonderful having him be a part of today's conversation and we look forward to welcoming Kristen to the podcast for episode two in that episode we'll have the privilege of learning from our friends Brad and Jenny nethery as they share how they use their home in a unique way to become debt free but before that stay tuned for Part B of Jacob's Journey which will be released next week we'll dive deeper into the Practical aspects of property management and investment as well as how Jacob was able to purchase the home at such a young age with very little credit history if you enjoyed today's episode and found it valuable please consider subscribing to our podcast and leaving a review your feedback is invaluable in helping us improve and reach more individuals looking to make informed decisions in real estate you can also find us on YouTube at for the real good or on Instagram at realestateforthereal good as we part ways from now we pray that God would bless you and keep you and that his face would shine upon you as you seek to know him more to trust his will on your life and surrender to his Direction and care