Going Viral with Courtney Love — Nick Cisnero’s 5M+ View Breakthrough

What happens when you go from posting content online… to getting millions of views — and Courtney Love herself is watching?

In this episode, I sit down with Nick Cisnero, whose Courtney Love–inspired content has exploded across TikTok and Instagram, racking up over 5 million views and catching the attention of the icon herself.

We talk about the creative process behind his videos, what it actually feels like to go viral overnight, and the surreal moment when the person who inspired your work starts engaging with it. We also get into the pressure, the momentum, and how quickly everything can change when the internet decides you’re the moment.

If you’ve ever wondered what viral fame really looks like behind the scenes — this one’s for you.

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:01

Hi everyone, welcome back to the show. Today's episode is rooted in something and someone I deeply love. We're gonna be diving into pop culture, chaos, and women who were never supposed to behave. Specifically, Miss Courtney Love. If you know me, you already know Courtney has been an idol to me forever. Not because she was polished, not because she was perfect, but because she was the exact opposite of what women were supposed to be back in the day, especially if you consider her compared to other pop culture icons like Miss Paris Hilton and Britney Spears, who were super manufactured. Um, and then you had Courtney, who was messy, loud, unpredictable, brilliant. And she didn't ask for approval. She didn't care if she was liked. And for me growing up, that energy was magnetic. And actually, full circle moment about 11 years ago, I won a fan contest where I got to talk to Courtney Love directly. It was very surreal. I opened the, I think it was Skype. It wasn't even Zoom. And she was just sitting there. It was crazy. She was like smoking in the Chateau Marmont. And I was like, hi, Courtney. There was like fan, five fans, and I was one of them. Anyway, um, I'm going on a tangent there. But I got to talk to her about fame, pop culture, Paris, Lindsay Brady, all of it. It was so crazy. And I remember thinking, this is someone who exists completely outside of the rules. So imagine my excitement when I'm scrolling through Instagram and I come across Mr. Nick. Nick has been going viral for these incredible reels where he recreates some of Courtney Love's most iconic moments. He's basically standing in front of a TV, perfectly syncing her interviews, her chaos, and her genius. Like you really do capture the vibe. And it's giving shadow energy, which is what they used to do for Rocky Horror. If you know that, that's what it reminded me of. And people are clearly obsessed because his Courtney Love videos alone, at least the last time I checked, are over 5 million views across TikTok and Instagram, which is insane. So what I love is that it's not just a parody, it's sharp, it's specific, it's nostalgic, but it's also commentary. There's humor, but there's also insight. Nick describes himself as someone who clocks pop culture and isn't afraid to say the quiet part out loud, which honestly feels very aligned with me. So here we are. We're gonna be talking about Courtney. Nick, thank you for being here. Of course. Thank you for having me. How are you doing?

SPEAKER_01 2:24

Uh, doing good, doing good. Um, just living my life, you know, working at work today. So this is like, you know, it's 6 p.m. here, so it's a little like into the evening. And uh yeah, it's it's it's good. I'm at the end of my day, I'll just say that.

SPEAKER_02 2:41

It's the life of a viral star, baby. You gotta do podcast interviews now. This is just how it is.

SPEAKER_01 2:46

I guess so. I'll take it. I'll take it.

SPEAKER_02 2:48

Yeah. Um, so first things first, what made you choose Courtney Love? Because I've seen a lot of these reels. People are doing impersonation of housewives and you know, Sylvia Brown and things like that. When I came across Courtney, it wasn't even a music video or a live performance. You were like taking her. The first one I saw was backstage at I think it was the AMAs or the VMAs, and I'd never seen a reel like that before. So talk to me about why Courtney and how you came up with that specific content.

SPEAKER_01 3:19

Um, well, like you said, there's there's people, I've seen people do that type of content on the internet, a few of them. And I just thought it was like really cool and um definitely like you said, housewives and and stuff like that, Judge Judy. And um, I just thought like these people, this is so awesome. Like these people are really good at it. And I was just like, what I feel like I do that also with movies and film and everything. And I'm like, what could I do? That like what I and then I don't know, it just I didn't even have to ask myself or finish asking the question. I was just like, well, I know Courtney Love interviews because I grew up watching everything. I mean, I was like a sponge. Um, I discovered Courtney when I was 13, and um it just sort of was it's just been a wild ride ever since. And obviously, there's been the the the down years and everything where she's kind of quiet and everything, but even during those years, I still just like go back to like the classic Courtney stuff and put on the albums, and I don't know, I just always loved her. So, and a lot of about her is the you know um the wild stage performances and then just the the the interview, the no holes bar interviews and everything that I just love.

SPEAKER_00 4:27

So I was like, I know most of these by heart kind of. Um so why not?

SPEAKER_02 4:34

Yeah, I mean it was it's you you you sync with it perfectly, like the way that you're matching what she's saying and the tone and the inflection, but also the vibe. Like there's something about it that is just so spot on. And I love that you chose Courtney. I want you you mentioned you already knew these by heart. So does that mean like you just pulled up the TV and you're like, I got this?

SPEAKER_01 4:57

No, that no, that's not what I meant. But maybe, maybe in some way, like you like you said, it's not just um the the lines with surgical precision. Um someone said that once, and I thought it was like good. And I was like, oh, I'm gonna use that again. Fuck it. Um, but it's not even just the lines or like getting the timing and everything on point. It's it is it's a lot of it's kind of like the attitude and stuff too, and just I mean, I don't know. I've always had sort of very animated facial expressions, and people have always, you know, thought I was, you know, unintentionally funny sometimes. I, you know, I don't always see it, but like I've always just sort of like I feel like Courtney raised me in a weird way. So that's kind of why like I think that you know, I kind of came to these, but no, I I still have to rehearse them because it's like I make mistakes, and some of these are old, like from the vaults, type of type of things that people just recently have uploaded on YouTube, and I'm like, oh my god, I remember this from like I had it on VHS or recorded it from MTV, you know, when I was like 16. So a lot of it I haven't haven't seen in years, but I remember them, and there's always still things in my head that I remember that I'm like I'm looking for on the internet, and I still haven't found certain clips that I would like to do. But um, yeah, I still have to I have to rehearse and I I have my little method of doing that, and and uh it doesn't take me that long, but um you know I do make sure that I'm like on point. And the more you repeat something, the more it becomes like muscle memory. So I like to get to a point where I don't even have to think about the lines, I just do it.

SPEAKER_02 6:40

It's um I I think there's two avenues. Like you find something that is interesting in you, like, oh, this would be good content, or you do something that you know so well. So I'm curious like how many hours it took to do, like to practice the first one you posted, and then how many takes you did.

SPEAKER_01 7:01

The the very first one I posted was um it was from like an uh HBO reverb uh live show where but they did little like you know interlude clips of the band talking, and and um it was about uh Courtney was talking about how the drummer is so important and you gotta have your rhythm section down. I don't know why I chose that one. I felt like it was easy and like I just loved that celebrity skin era. So I was just like, this is you know, this is cool. And I also love Courtney's hair at that time, the Meg Ryan. Uh so uh that was uh I don't know. Like, I think I chose that one, and then I want to say, if I remember correctly, I maybe memorized it in like 15 or 20 minutes. And then like the whole just like repeating, I'll I would repeat one sentence over and over until I got it. Then I move on to the next sentence. And it's not that long of a clip, it's I think it's like a minute or something, um, or maybe just 40, 40, 50 seconds. But um, I would repeat it over and over until I mean honestly, I was just it was a Sunday, and I was like pacing back and forth, just like repeating it, rewind. I have it, I had it on my phone, so I would just like keep you know doing it until I get it right. And that's sort of how I do it. I think I did probably like five takes of that. First one. The first one. Um, and I I got to a point where I'm like, this is good. I got it. I got it. You know?

SPEAKER_02 8:26

I from what I I've never gone viral myself, but what I know some people who have I've talked to actually you're the first person who came on who's who's coming on my show that I found on Instagram who's gone viral that I invited on. I know some people personally in my life that have for like different reels on TikTok. But from what I know is when something is is on trajectory for like millions of views, it happens instantly. It's not like you get 300 and then suddenly it's like 50,000, 100,000. It's like you post it and something friggin' opens up and the flood comes with views. Is that what happened with you?

SPEAKER_01 9:09

Yes. Um, I it like none of these happened over a long period of time. Um I, you know, I this so I didn't technically technically viral, like, I mean, what's what you know, what's the amount that like makes it viral? I don't I I I don't really know. But for me, on I I started posting these on TikTok first, like several months before I even put them on Instagram. And uh I think it was like two or three months before I I put them on Instagram. Um so by the time I got to Instagram, I was just like putting them all up like each day, and you know, but on TikTok, it was like I posted that first video and it did like whatever. I think I had posted some stuff on TikTok before, and it was like, you know, the typical 200, 300 views, and like whatever, no big deal. Uh and then, you know, when I started posting this one, these, um, the first one did like a couple, I want to say a couple thousand, like nothing crazy. I was like, oh, you know, people oh, people like this. And then so I did another one. The second one I did was um where she's talking about being in faith no more and how she they made her cover jumped by Van Halen. And so in my mind, that went viral because I got like overnight it was like 40,000 views, and I was like, that's a lot of freaking views. Like for me, for someone that's like never been on the internet really that much, you know. Um more as a consumer, you know. And like I uh so then that one went viral, and I was like, oh my god, I was telling people at work, I'm like 40,000, it's 40.6,000, it's it's it's it's 41,000. Like I was like, this is crazy. And um, so then I put I kept I posted another one, a couple more, and then exactly one week after that, I think I posted uh the fashion award one where she's you know the the Bruce Springsteen Zenom Boomer issues one, and that one just exploded as well. That went even higher, and it was in the couple, it was in the hundred thousands at first, and it was, it was overnight. All of these I remember waking up the next morning and just going, uh, what is happening? And then, of course, the um and then and then you know it stayed steady for a few days. I remember like it was going up for like three or four days, and then of course the Nicole Kidman, the god, that one is so unhinged. That one is like crazy because I wanted to do that at that point. That was the longest one it took me to memorize and to like build to learn. Um, and it literally, I think I posted it on a Tuesday, and by Friday morning it was at a million.

SPEAKER_02 11:56

I'm like a regular person is addicted to social media and we want to go and see those little red hearts and or the views on TikTok, um, comments, whatever. And so I'm trying I don't know how I would emotionally, psychically, spiritually react if I opened my phone and saw 40,000, 100,000, up to a million. Because as somebody's been obsessed with fame their whole life, it would be like, one, is this real? And two, what do I have to do to keep it going?

SPEAKER_01 12:31

Yeah, I don't well, I don't know. I don't I've never thought about it like that because I don't expect to keep it going. I I honestly I didn't expect this to turn into I do it now because it's fun. Um, and even I started doing it because it was fun. But I think that I literally I think when I I remember thinking when I definitely excitement. I was just like, oh my god, this is so cool. Um people are paying attention to me.

SPEAKER_02 12:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:58

Um no, I but but like I literally was just like, oh my god, this actually I was weirded out because I'm like, oh my god, a million people are watching me.

SPEAKER_02 13:06

That's like more than cities. The city I grew up in had a million people. So if you think about like an entire city watching you for like a minute or three minutes, and then you think about five million, which is like a large city in North America, it's like the numbers become abstract, I think. After 100,000, they're just numbers. But if you think about all of those people being in one place and all of them looking at you, that's pretty fucked up.

SPEAKER_01 13:35

I kind of hate it. The thought of it makes me just like cringe. Um, not for any reason. I mean, obviously, it's the end you have that shield of the internet and the screen, and it's not live, and I have rehearsed these, and I can kind of you know make sure that I have the best take that I put on there and you know, whatever. But yeah, it's kind of it's it's it's a little weird, and and but it's overall it's very exciting, and I'm just like, oh my god. And I do like to see like, you know, um what people say, like the comments and stuff. The comments are very unhinged sometimes, and uh a lot of the comments bring up some you know pretty hateful things about Courtney. Um, obviously I do other videos too, so that's it's kind of like whatever, but most of the time it's pretty positive, and like I just like to read, you know, kind of see what people say, but I didn't realize so many people like were would be into this, not just this, but like with Courtney, you know.

SPEAKER_02 14:34

She she still hasn't been replicated in pop culture. Like you can see the pop stars kind of pulling from like Madonna, Brittany. They all kind of you can see the line, but in terms of like shamelessly breaking down the barriers, like obviously high on drugs, like so trashy, makeup smear, crazy hair, calling out Madonna, crawling on the red carpet, like legs spread.

SPEAKER_01 15:01

Yeah, well, it's kind of like Courtney, kind of like Courtney herself has said several times like no one wants my job. Like she's like, you know, uh Kylie wakes up, you know, one morning and people want her job. People want to be like pop that appeals to people for some reason, like you know, um young girls, young gay boys, the regular boy. I mean, uh most regular boys. Not regular. Not regular ones. Well, you know what I mean. Just like um, well, I'm I'm more talking about the pop thing. Um, but all types of people want to be pop stars, you know? And um, but like no one wants to be, no one wants to be like a vilified rock star, which is a big part of it's not all. I mean, she's she's celebrated in a lot of ways, but like she's also pretty vilified. And um, I always am drawn to that because of like if you can like live through that, um, I don't mean to you know, no pun intended, but like if you can like you know sit there and and sit in judgment and all that, like I feel like that's that's that's a badass bitch.

SPEAKER_02 16:12

Yeah, it's it's like it's not the there's something fearless and shameless that is that is so magnetic. And when I was younger, I definitely equated drugs to being cool for sure. Um yeah, that's a whole other thing. And maybe she was part of like you can be a mess and still own your power and still be artistic. Although one thing I did ask her when I was um when I won that contest was is being um destructive um go hand in hand with being brilliant? And she was like, not necessarily, like for some people, yes, but you shouldn't pursue drugs, alcohol, chaos just because you think you'll write a good song. And I think Courtney Love, if you know her music, that's the first thing. But she's such a polarizing figure in pop culture. So I want to hear like what some of the comments were, whatever you're comfortable sharing. Because when she came to Vancouver, I waited outside to meet her with some other fans. She didn't come outside, but I did hear that she actually doesn't meet fans outside of shows before or after. Like some people will go to the stage door and sign autographs. She doesn't because there's so many people who are Nirvana fans that think that she killed Kurt Cobain and will come and I don't know if they would do something insane, but like she's yeah, polarizing.

SPEAKER_01 17:37

Yeah, there's there's a lot of there's a lot of that. I I I you know it's it's just to me it's terrible. And I know that like people have always said it for 30 years, you know, it's been it's been going on, and you kind of tune it out. I guess you have to. Um, and there's comments, I mean a lot of comments about it on every Courtney video that I post. And obviously I don't engage with that, I don't give energy to that, if you will. Um, sometimes you want to, sometimes you're just like, what's wrong with you? And um, but you know, I just scroll past it. Um I just before I caught on here a comment, someone said that this is a tired take of when she was popping off about Dave Grohl in one of the videos. And and um I was just like, why are you here then? Like, I mean totally you don't have to take it personally if you like Dave Grohl. I mean, it's not about that. So um, but yeah, there's a lot of a lot of the the the you know the she killed per stuff, and somehow I've actually gotten on YouTube, like on YouTube I've gone down some rabbit holes recently, or I'll call wormholes more. Um, about there's like like podcasters and stuff that are like trying to not to get into this too big, but like trying to reopen the cases and stuff and see how and I'm just like, are you really still doing this? There's like a lady with pink hair, and I'm just like, no, it's supposed to be with pink hair, but it's just like I'm I'm more just calling her out. I'm just like, you are awfully bitter for someone that you know you don't know her, and it's like yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 19:15

I understand an emotional connection to a celebrity like Brittany. And if something tragic happened to her and there was a suspect, I'm sure I would be open to that. But one thing that always like stuck with me when she talked about Kurt is how much she loved him and how upset she was, and how she she mourned in a way that was angry, and she was like, Fuck him, he left. Like, I don't care what you think about him. He left me, he has a daughter, fuck him. And I don't know if I think people wanted her to react in a kind of way, but she actually that whole like Nirvana's money, Kurt, the rest of the band took her down such a crazy path. She was screwed over so many times. He didn't die, and she was handed like keys to the castle necessarily. Like she's gone through Hellenback to get her husband's like whatever she was owed as his wife. It it was not he died. No.

SPEAKER_01 20:13

Yeah. And and and but also just all of that, yes, but like also who can relate to something so you know, obviously, we're going back to kind of her beginning, or you know, the start in the early 90s, and especially when Hole did become, you know, a more or less a household name on NTV and everything like that, but like, which was after the death. But um, like who can relate to that? Yeah. Like who naming a person that came out, okay. My you know, I'm living in the public eye post my husband, you know, who who can relate to that? No one.

SPEAKER_02 20:52

So no one knows what that's like, you know, and um especially at that level, like that kind of death is already like I can't even imagine.

SPEAKER_01 21:01

Horrible.

SPEAKER_02 21:01

And then on that scale, like fans immediately showing up to the house and like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 21:07

Or just coming to your show and like holding up signs and crazy stuff. So I just always was just like, I don't understand why how horrible people are, and um because imagine you're at a show and you're just playing your gig because you have made a great record, and like you're you know, you're out touring, but like the it obviously there's all the darkness around it, and um you know, people are hating you and making fun of you like every which being a celebrity is that's part of I guess being you know made fun of and stuff like that, but like oh god, just awful. I've always felt just bad in that sense because I'm like, I can't relate to that at all.

SPEAKER_02 21:48

But yeah, it's the strong person. You um you have to remember the pressure cooker these people live in. Um, okay, so five million people is Courtney Love one of Those people that seen it?

SPEAKER_01 22:01

Yes. She has seen it. She has seen um videos.

SPEAKER_02 22:07

Tell me, tell me how you know.

SPEAKER_01 22:13

She um there was a um someone e someone DM'd me. Excuse me. Um someone DM'd me and was like, there was a, you know, um, I guess a secret account, and they were like, oh, you know this is Courtney, and I'm like, oh I didn't. Um so there was that, but then honestly, I don't even know if that panned out to be accurate, but um it from some of the comments and stuff, I kind of thought it could be, but then honestly the very next day, like the official, because you know she's she was um kind of dormant, like her uh Instagram was like not active for a couple years, and all of a sudden, since they did since they uh did that um documentary, she's she was I think it was like right after she was supposed to be there for the premiere, which she didn't go wasn't there for, but um she was back on Instagram and she, you know, she was with Melissa and back in LA for a little bit. And um, so anyway, right around that time, it she was back on Instagram, and I was napping one day. This was like the day after I was taking a nap, my long day at work, and I was having one of those naps this afternoon about this time, and you wake up with like drool because you're so tired, and it was winter. Um and my friend, one of my best friends, had texted me, and she was just like, not a not, she was like, alert, alert, like she was just like, This is not a she's like, go to your page, you know, Courtney. Um it's real. Courtney's like on there, and so I went and um she had liked I can't even remember which one it was, but she had liked one of the videos, and then if you remember one of them, she commented, and um sh it was the one where she's in it's from the Curtin Courtney documentary, which is just stupid, but at least I liked I liked it for the Courtney clips, and um I think she was at the ACLU thing or whatever, and um that's the video, and she she commented, she's like, Will you be in a band with me? And uh, you know, basically was like um this is great, or I don't even remember, but that was what I remember of the comments. She was like, Will you be in a band with me? And I was like, Would love you, would love to.

SPEAKER_02 24:41

Oh my god. It's like those moments Parasulton commented on something of mine once, and it was like, it's what is life, one degree of separation. Like you see the name pop up, and you're like, What? And you're like, Is it is it the right one? And for you, it's like pretty crazy because you are celebrating her. So it's not like she liked a random picture of a dog.

SPEAKER_01 25:06

Right. It's like her seeing me speak the words that she said. It's yeah, it's really, it's actually kind of surreal when you think about it. I um yeah, it was it was just very exciting. I mean, like, I don't, I, you know, when I was younger, I paid more attention to celebrity and and people that are famous and you know, idolized, you know, whoever, definitely Courtney when I was a teenager. And um, but over the years, it's just more like I see everyone as just a person, but like I still enjoy their art, I still enjoy their personalities, and you can still enjoy people and not be obsessed with the celebrity part of it. Um, which has always been, I I feel like I've never been too big into like who someone's dating, and because I always feel like that's their private life and I don't belong there. Um, you know, everyone I know, you know, not I don't know, there's so many, you know, mega stars that are just like, oh yeah, the Jennifer Aniston Brad Pitt thing, like way back in the day. It's just like people, I was like, who cares? But they're like, I don't, I don't care what they do, you know. It's like um, I don't know why they popped in my head, but uh but yeah, and it's like even Courtney, I'm like, I never paid much attention to anyone she's ever dated. And, you know, um same goes for anyone else that I I kind of admire as a celebrity. So I don't know. I I the older I get, the more I'm just like less, it doesn't, you know, I don't get all uh starstruck that much. Yeah, um she's but she's what she's the one. She's yeah, she's one for me that I'm still just like I've like loved you my whole life.

SPEAKER_02 26:46

They're like, yeah, you try so hard to remember she's real, but if even like seeing her live, I remember she walked on the stage, it's like your brain doesn't comprehend that she's right there, and it's like, oh yeah, she's real, but she's like you're looking at a face that you've seen so many times on TV, and you're like, my brain doesn't understand that she's right there. Like, did you do you remember like when you first saw her live or like any cra or any like yeah, I I assume you've seen her live. Um tell me about like tell me about that.

SPEAKER_01 27:18

Um yeah, the first time I saw her live was in um, I was I was like I said, I was 13 when Lit Through This came out. So um my mom wouldn't let me go to shows and so we were like my mom was a little bit overprotective, and uh which is fine now. I'm I you know I forgive her. But um I finally uh celebrity skin, it was after the uh whole Manson Pretty Monsters tour kind of disintegrated, um, and then Hole went on tour kind of on their own. And um it was right, right when she because I remember seeing her, it was uh it was um May 1st, 1999, I think is the date. Um and I um it was at n it was the Nashville, we used to have this thing called River Stages, and um hold on one second, sorry. Am I still there?

SPEAKER_02 28:16

You're still here, baby. Okay, sorry.

SPEAKER_01 28:17

I had this like I had a call coming in. I'm like, what's going on with my book? But um it was Nashville. We had we had like I know what you're doing. Um we had this um thing called River Stages, and it was just a big festival thing. Um they did it like every week, every other week. I don't remember how often, but it was big. It was like they'd have a whole three-day thing, and I remember like this particular weekend, it was like 98 degrees, and Jessica Simpson, um Johnny Lang was there, and um Cheat Trick was on the closing night was Saturday, I think, and Cheat Trick was on before whole. So they I guess opened for whole. It was weird. Um, but anyway, I that was the first time I saw them live, and it was this like 20,000 people. It was, you know, it was on the river, um, on the Cumberland River here in Nashville, and um I don't even I don't remember the start of it. I remember seeing her come out on stage and she had the Meg Ryan hair from that period, and I was like, she looks so different than what I was expecting, even in that moment. And I was like, oh my god, she has the Meg Ryan. I didn't call it the McRyan hair back then, but um anyway, I that was the first time I saw and then um so I enjoyed the show. I kind of there was like a big, I mean, it's just so many people, and I just remember being like tossed around like um just violently, like you like we did in the 90s, and um then at the end I was kind of like I moved off to the side of the stage, and I guess there was a van that had pulled up, and the band was gonna come and get in the van and drive off. Um, I happened to be kind of on the fence, and I remember Courtney being maybe a total of like 10 or 15 feet away from me and just waving at her, and I was screaming her name, and you know, in in my mind, she was looking right at me, but uh she like waved back, but I'm sure she was like just waving a little bit. But I saw her, that was the first time I kind of saw her close up, and I was just like so crazy. I was 18 years old, yeah, and I was just like starstruck so so hard. And I the show was so good, and um yeah, that was the first time. And one of the I mean, I saw her, I saw her a couple more times than nobody's daughter era, but that was the only time during those the 90s when yeah, the height, the height.

SPEAKER_02 30:37

Um I yeah, I I had that that call with her that was on Skype, and then I saw her live. I haven't seen anything of her since, but she kind of yeah, went quiet. She so the Instagram thing, she she was coming out of a fashion show, I think, and she said something to the press like, get offline, get offline now, yeah, blah blah blah. And I think Lana Del Rey was calling it underculture or something, where like you were so off the radar that it was I don't know. And so she was like, Mia, and then yeah, this um documentary is coming out. I don't think it's out for regular people. Like, have you seen it?

SPEAKER_01 31:16

No, it was just it was just at like Sundance or whatever. And I I actually heard, I don't know, I saw something a few weeks after that was like actually not finished, and what and that's when yeah, I don't that it was like a rough a rough um draft or something of it.

SPEAKER_02 31:31

And I was that why she didn't go to the premiere?

SPEAKER_00 31:36

I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 31:36

I mean that, and I'm just like, I don't know. But um, you know, whatever for whatever reason, I you know, I don't know if it's being distributed or or what, or if they're re-editing it or something. I think there was someone said they were gonna re-edit it or something, but you know, who knows? And I don't, you know, I would love to see it, obviously. Because and really, I would love to see it because I've heard that there's like new song clips. I want to hear new music.

SPEAKER_02 32:04

Oh, well, she's been she teased a few things like going on tour. She has been posting like yeah, teases of new music. Um we haven't had a new song in a while. She had that one, and the video was her like smashing the hotel room. I can't remember the name.

SPEAKER_01 32:22

You know my name.

SPEAKER_02 32:23

You know my name. I like it. Yeah, you know my name. Um, yeah. Uh what's your favorite song by her or whole?

SPEAKER_01 32:31

Oh wow. Um, it's it's uh it's hard. Um top of my head, I'd say. I'm into plump lately. It changes, it changes, you know. Um lately my go-to is plump. Um, I'd say from Litzard's Jennifer's body is probably like kind of my all-time favorite, maybe. I wouldn't really say that officially. Um petals, I love petals and oh, hit so hard. I've been into Hit So Hard a lot lately, too. I had last week I was like driving around and had that on repeat. I don't know why. I was feeling some kind of way about that song and about um a situation, a boy, and I was just like, this mismatches, you know? And um I really love, you know, it's funny. I love from the from the solo stuff, I actually love this the America Sweetheart album, um, as a lot of us did. Yeah, um, even though she hated it, apparently. I um I love Never Gonna Be the Same. I thought the closing song on that album was like so beautiful, and um I don't know, apparently she hated it, so who you know, who cares? But uh yeah, I I don't know. Every every album I have like I Love Someone Else's Bed from um from Nobody's Daughter. I Pacific Coast Highway. Anyway.

SPEAKER_02 33:49

Oh my god, Pacific Coast Highway and also Sunset Marquee. I love those. I I yeah, I listen to those a lot. I like celebrity, like I'm a super celebrity guy, so yeah, yeah, like celebrity skin, Malibu. Like I find when I'm at a party with all the gays and we're we're putting on music videos, I will put on Malibu because I think she looks beautiful. I think it's such a nice song, and it's like a nice palette of like whole, you know what I mean? It's like it's such an easy listen. Um, but yeah, I think everyone likes that song.

SPEAKER_01 34:23

Like, yeah, even I can play it at work.

SPEAKER_02 34:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:26

And like put it on a playlist and play it at work, and people are like, oh, you know, it's not like who's screaming, you know.

SPEAKER_02 34:32

It's she also did um, oh my god. So did you watch her interview? Um Fashion, she's lying on the couch. It's a podcast. And oh, like the recent.

SPEAKER_00 34:44

Yes, yeah, I did see it.

SPEAKER_02 34:46

I don't remember the name of the podcast. I'll put it in the description. But one thing that I loved hearing about her, I was really high on mushrooms when I watched this. I was like, oh my god, this is so intense. Um said that when she was stripping, her favorite song to dance to was Betty Davis Eyes. And I'm like, if I had a million dollars, I would spend it all to see Courtney Love striped of Betty Davis Eyes. Cause like I like the mat, and she did a cover of Betty Davis Eyes, I'm pretty sure.

SPEAKER_00 35:15

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:16

Like though that combo is like earth-shattering to me.

SPEAKER_01 35:20

I that's funny you said that. Uh Betty Davis Eyes is. I mean, I have so many. If you put a lot of songs in a pot, like I'd say I, you know, it's hard to pick your favorite song, but Betty Davis Eyes is probably up there as one of my favorite songs like ever, ever. Yeah, same. Um, and I remember back when we made mixed CDs and playlists and stuff back in the early 2000s or whatever. I put that song on everybody's mix that I made for every playlist. Um, I still probably I don't make playlists for people anymore, but like if I did, I would. Yeah. And um, I just I just love that. I remember downloading it on like Limewire or something. And it's just like Naster or whatever was back then. And I was just like, I love that song so much.

SPEAKER_02 36:07

Yeah, it was a good one. I also loved her cover of um Bad Romance. I mean, I don't know if I loved it, but it was just really weird because she's like, rah rah, rah, rah, rah, rah, rah, rah, rah. Um, but anyway, Nick, thank you so much for coming on. I I I hope that the premiere comes and she does some kind of event with fans and you are on the list because of those reels. And I I hope you, I don't know if this is what you want, but it's what I want that you had a moment with her and she says hello and you get to take a picture or something because it's so rare for people to have an idol that they are able to connect with in one way or another. So thank you so much for coming on and sharing.

SPEAKER_01 36:49

Oh my god, thank you so much for having me. It's been fun. I loved I loved every minute of it.

SPEAKER_02 36:54

Yes, you'll you'll come back.

SPEAKER_01 36:55

I can talk about Courtney for hours.

SPEAKER_02 36:56

So I mean, me too, bitch. Me too. We'll have to do it again.

SPEAKER_01 37:00

Awesome. All right. Well, thank you.