A conversation between Dale Dougherty, the founder of Make Magazine and Maker Faire, and Brian Wagner, an educator, coder, and maker. Brian Wagner talks about his life as a maker from his first encounter with computers to his current career in teaching and creating a how-to-code video course. They discuss his early fascination with computers, transitioning into engineering and teaching, his experiences in founding a hackerspace, and his efforts in introducing youngsters to coding. Brian emphasizes the importance of a growth mindset and talks about the connection between making and coding, indicating both to be essential skills. He also shares his experience about launching his own online platform "Coding with Mr Wagner".