Optimal Human Experience with Dr Joseph Diruzzo

Ep. 5: Stress in Life and Perceptual Filters

• Dr. Joseph Diruzzo (aka "Dr. Joe") • Season 1 • Episode 5

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Have you ever wondered how much influence the prenatal period has in shaping our lives? 

Prepare to have your mind expanded as Dr. Joseph Diruzzo takes us on a fascinating journey through a key tool for obtaining the Optimal Human Experience: the world of Prenatal Re-imprinting (PNRI). 

We discuss the significant role of the prenatal period in setting our emotional, neurophysiological, and chronological set points. Learn about simple Pavlovian Stimulus Response Reflex arcs, and how they lead to resonating feedback loops, both emotional and physical. 

The end result? People tend to recapitulate actions, circumstances, and situations in order to have the same experiences over and over and over again. 

"Always" make the wrong decision? "Always" choose the wrong person for a relationship? Do people "Always" take advantage of you? Yes, there's a common denominator and it can be changed and transformed to experience different results.

Dr. DiRuzzo sheds light on our parents' emotional experiences and how they can deeply impact us, with the biggest impact happening even before we're born. We unpack the potential of prenatal re-imprinting in resolving these deep-seated psychological patterns and restoring the Optimal Human Experience.

Learn to unlock the most ancient parts of your brain through posture. We'll also tap into how this knowledge can act as a therapeutic tool when you're feeling tired or stressed out.

Embrace the profound role of neurophysiology and acupuncture in this process. Moreover, we delve into the world of perceptual filters, how they impact our life experiences and can be shifted by incorporating artificial memories to rewrite prenatal experiences and imprints.   

A whole new perspective on your past and your optimal future awaits you in this enlightening conversation.

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This is the Optimal Human Experience Podcast with Dr Joseph DiRuzzo. To learn more, visit OptimalHumanExperiencecom. And now. Dr Joseph DiRuzzo and the Optimal Human Experience Podcast.

Paul Andrew:

Welcome to episode 5 of the Optimal Human Experience Podcast with Dr Joseph DiRuzzo, where we discuss - you guessed it - the Optimal Human Experience. Dr Joe, what do you want to talk about?

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

Let's talk about perceptual filters, the prenatal experience and what we end up with in life and how we can get more of what we want out of life in all the categories that really matter. Okay, I'm on board. you're on board, all right? Well, one of the main tools that we work with Pavlovian Stimulus Response Reflex arcs, conditioning all of that One of the more powerful tools is the prenatal re-imprinting technology. So let me give just the basic dogma of prenatal re-imprinting. What we find in our newest studies of psychology and human excellence and learning is that personality structure begins in the womb and the formal dogma is a sperm. It's an unfertilized egg. They come together and make a fertilized ovum that divides into two cells, four cells, eight cells, 16 cells, and when it reaches the 32 cell stage it's called a blastilla. It's a ball of cells. At that point the inner cell mass of the blastilla begins to spread out toward what will be the head and toward what will be the feet and immediately forms the neural plate. The first differentiated tissue of the human body is nervous tissue and at this point personality structure begins to be established as a set of simple Pavlovian Stimulus Response Reflex arcs and all of the problems that people have in life without exception are the end result of maladaptive reflexes established in the prenatal period under conditions of maternal and or fetal distress.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

Now I often have people ask me what is this thing about taking the prenatal position? Well, when you're in the womb there's not a lot of room and we're curled up and our head is down. And when we come out we start crawling around, we put our head up and then the curves in the spine begin to develop. If you sit and put yourself in the prenatal position, what you'll notice is, as soon as the axis of the eyes, the horizontal axis of the eye, goes below the horizon, all of a sudden it deep inside of your brain. It gets real quiet. That's what I call entering the prenatal state by taking on the prenatal posture and at that point, all the firing of the various joints in the spine going into the brain are what they were before you were born, and that makes it possible to alter complex generalizations and install new information deep in the deepest parts of the brain, the parts of the brain that we're forming when you were in the earliest part of gestation, the earliest part of the prenatal experience.

Paul Andrew:

So you're saying that the position of the head is critical? Just by tucking the chin into the chest and changing the angle of the bones in the neck, the cervical spine, that seems to be the key to accessing these more ancient parts of the brain that were first developing it's a big part of the key.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

But if you put your head like this and you're sitting up straight and you put your head like that, that's not it, that's not the prenatal position.

Paul Andrew:

Well, this and that this is audio, so I can see what you're doing.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

No one else can.

Paul Andrew:

So okay, so everybody just put your head like this and then put it like that.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

You need to lean forward and put a curve in the thoracic spine, in the curve, especially the thoracocervical junction, the area between the thorax, the chest and the neck. You got to make a continuous curve in there. But this is, you know.

Paul Andrew:

Okay, okay, so it's not just tucking your head down in your chest, because that's just putting your head down. What you're saying is to kind of curl, curl over, even in the lower your back, the middle part of your back, a curve all the way up and then your neck your head down into your chin, into your chest, but your back needs to be curved around much like an embryo would be tucked into the womb.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

Okay, you know, and I'll discuss prenatal re-imprinting with people and they'll say, well, that doesn't make any sense. I, I could never do that. I couldn't remember what my parents felt and what they were talking about 50, 60 years ago. I'll say why. I put your head down and tell me what comes to mind and they go well, that's silly, you know, I can't do that. It was. I was born 60 years ago, so we'll just give it a try. They put their head down.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

The next thing you know they're going oh, my mother and father don't want to the pregnancy. Mom and dad are fighting and they're out of rapport, they're not gonna get it. And it's just below the surface and, characteristically, if you look at people in an unguarded moment, you'll see what their base internal emotional state is and it shows on the face over and over and over again. Everybody has had prenatal experiences. Rarely is there a disconnect between what they're experiencing in their ongoing life and what they experienced in the womb, for example. People will say to me I'm lonely. I'll say alright, put your head down and tell me what's going on. They'll say well, my mother doesn't want to be a pregnant and she's ignoring me.

Paul Andrew:

Now is there a.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

Seraparallel there, or what right Yikes. So the prenatal period it established us is establishes all kinds of set points emotionally, neurophysiologically and or chronologically. When a person is, you know, stressed in the prenatal period, they come out and guess what One of the most interesting tools of the prenatal technology is. I will ask people how are you doing? They'll say well, I'm tired. I'll say, alright, put your head down, assume the prenatal position, take a deep breath. Imagine yourself floating in the amniotic fluid. How's your mother? They'll go. She's exhausting.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

I'll say she's stressed out, she's not getting along with my father, she's exhaust. I'll say, well, alright, well, is she giving you energy or she taking away from you? And Then there'll be this long silence and they'll go. She's using me like a battery, and so the the circuit for the pre-nate, in terms of the Adrenal glands, and the circuit for the mom, you know, for the, they're one in the same. As a matter of fact, one of the most healing things you can do for people is have them assume the prenatal Position and get their nervous system firing the way it was when they were in the womb and have them say over and over again Mom and I are one Mother, and I are one mother and I are one. And they begin to get a sense of safety Because they're not all alone, even though they're being ignored and they're having a poor deprivation and sickness installed in them in the prenatal period Mom, mother and I are one. It's very healing for people.

Paul Andrew:

So tell me, tell me this, because I have. When I've discussed prenatal re, I've known you for a long time. When I've discussed prenatal re-imprinting with other people, they'll say well, you know, I've done hypnosis and it sounds like that's just hypnosis, and so I've been hypnotized and it didn't really help anything. What's the difference between prenatal re-imprinting and hypnosis?

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

You know that's a good question. My observation is Hypnosis people do while they're sitting up in a chair or whatever and they fail to recapitulate the Affrentation. In other words, their spine is not the same as it was before they were born. You put them into that curved spine. Next thing you know, boy, they go right into the prenatal experience. They prenatal memories will pop up with enormous clarity and, characteristically, people are just shocked they'll go.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

That happened to me 50 years ago. I go yeah, and it's still in your brain, it's still down in the deeper parts of your brain, the part of your brain that formed early on in the gestation. And there's a, there's a, there's an analysis, there's a, there's a relationship between hypnosis. I use a lot of the words that come out of their Ericksonian hypnosis. But there's an interesting story. I had a student and it was a gentleman in his early 60s and he had been Studying prenatal re-imprinting with me and had fabulous results. He, his granddaughter, his daughter, had a daughter and she got pregnant and they did the wonder baby program with Absolutely fabulous results.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

But this fellow's name was Rick. He wanted some kind of certification. So we went to a hypnosis training school in Dallas and went through a lot of their training. And they were doing training and they were doing hypnosis and he was getting a certification so that he could feel better about Presenting himself. And this woman had problems. She was a client, she had problems with repeated breakups in her Primary relationship. She'd get Engaged and she'd get right up to the wedding date and she just backed out, she couldn't do it. And so the Hypnotherapy teacher there worked with her and you know all the students worked with her and Didn't get any results, really didn't change the internal state, didn't change the behaviors. So the instructor in the school turned to Rick and said why don't you try some of your prenatal material on this, on this gal? And Rick said well, okay, and you know now was this?

Paul Andrew:

was this a a true? Was the instructor really looking for? Well, we haven't had any success. Perhaps, rick, you could have some success. Or was it more like hey, rick, let's use so, talking about your fancy schmancy, prenatal stuff, let's see what you got. Yeah, come on, show us big boy you.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

It was done with an underlying tone of sarcasm and cynicism. Okay, okay, I mean, you know you'd have to maintain the pecking order. Well, this is way out of the pecking order. Well, anyways, rick, the other woman, assumed the prenatal position and talked. She talked to her about what was going on and her father had gone to Vietnam after getting her mother pregnant and he was either killed or didn't come back. There was some horrible trauma and the mother made a resolve. Molecules of emotion. The mother made a resolve that she would never allow herself to be emotionally vulnerable in that way again. Oh bingo, oh bingo. And here's this little baby in the prenatal period. They can't think rationally, they can't reason, but those molecules of emotion and this girl had it happened to her several times, literally, she'd get almost to being married and she would back out with a vengeance. And she had, when Rick resolved that for her, the rest of my knowledge and belief. She was in an engagement situation. She went forward with it and did get married.

Paul Andrew:

So so the theory is that the fact that her mother decided she's never going to be emotionally exposed like that again to a romantic relationship that produced different molecules, different peptides, neuropeptides. Something in the embryo was bathed. This woman was bathed in that as a child, so her cells all created these receptor sites. I said, all right, that's, that's what we're going to run on. We'll run on that one, Not the happy neuropeptide. No, we need that one over here where. Get away from me, you man, you.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

Well, you know, this is at such an so far below consciousness and people, when, when they've got one of these patterns stuck, they, they will give you reason after reason after reason after reason, well thought out, and you know, just absolutely adamant, that that's the way it is. And then you change the prenatal pattern and all that changes. And one of the ways I like to think about it is the concept of a reverberating circuit of neurons firing deep in the brain where there's a trauma that occurs and it excites neuron A and that excites neuron B, and then neuron B excites neuron C and then neuron C re excites neuron A, which then re excites neuron B, which re excites neuron C, which then re excites, and you get a reverberating circuit. And this is how people can be stuck literally for decades. They can have feelings of inadequacy for decades. They can have feelings of lonely lenientness for decades.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

There is currently in neurophysiology people who are having people with issues, take a deep breath, just take it and blow it all out. Well, what that does is it balances the sympathetic nervous system and the parasympathetic nervous system, the fight or flight, the stress or relaxation. And here's an interesting thing If you put a needle in a major acupuncture point, right, we'll say the intersection point of the kidney, liver and spleen, Sonny and co, in the inside of the ankle, one hands width above the ankle bone.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

Yeah, I was just about to say that and you put, you put a needle in there and wait and guess what happens to people After about five minutes they'll go right. What happens to people when they have? So they do so.

Paul Andrew:

you put it in and it and it causes this relaxation response.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

They take a deep breath and it's the real and if the commonality is the relaxation response, you can reach over and hold that acupuncture point with your thumbs. It'll be sore and wait a couple of minutes. The next thing you know it'll take that deep breath. That deep breath is indicative of the parasympathetic and the sympathetic nervous system coming back into the optimal human experience. What happens when you resolve a psychological problem for somebody? What do they do?

Paul Andrew:

Right, they have that deep breath and let it out and and when and when you do a prenatal pattern right.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

So the whole thing is the optimal human experience. You don't want your adrenaline lens firing, firing, firing. You don't want a maladaptive neurological patterns, reverberating patterns, firing, firing, firing. You want the optimal human experience, optimal health, optimal relationships, optimal prosperity. You want everything to be optimal and that's the object and subject of our study.

Paul Andrew:

That's a perfect time to take a quick break and just say we're about halfway through this episode and if you want to learn more about what we're discussing here, there's a website, optimalhumanexperiencecom, and what you'll find on there is some more information and as the website is developed, you'll find, for the first time in decades, you'll find access to Dr Joe's material in an online format. Up to this point, the only way you could get Dr Joe's information would be through groups in person or one-on-one sessions in person, but now we're putting this together in a format that can be accessed online. You can learn more at optimalhumanexperiencecom Now. Dr Joe, earlier you and I were discussing, before we started recording, about the more about perceptual filters and the difference in perceptual filters that everybody has. Nobody has exactly the same perceptual filters, and you gave an example of walking down the street or something my brain is your back brain.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

The legend has it that your nervous system processes about two million pieces of information at any given moment, most of which you're not aware of. For example, if I say to you where's your left foot, then you become aware of it. It goes from unconscious to conscious. What's the temperature on your nose? You'll be able to tell me it's about 75 degrees, but until I mentioned it you weren't aware of it. So the real question is is what comes bubbles up out of this vast number of inputs and becomes conscious when we want the things that we want to be conscious of to be conscious, and the other things not so much. So we're walking down the street and I was in New York City taking my board exams and I had been recently studying Oriental diagnosis, boshin Jutsu, which is Japanese for Oriental diagnosis, for visual observation and before I started studying this, my perceptual filters were these are just people, they're New Yorkers, right? And then, after I read the book, my perceptual filters changed. I can see the ones. They had big, swollen noses and I knew their heart was stressed, big circles under their eyes and I knew they were having kidney problems.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

Mitsu Okushi wrote a book in which he said he went to meet a justice of the peace and he said, boy, this is going to be fabulous. There's a man here who understands justice and he understands peace. And he said I went into his office and there was this little guy sitting there with a big swollen nose, swollen lips, red ears and physiologically, and he just was so unhealthy and it kind of popped Mitsu Okushi's balloon. But the point about perceptual filters is you and I will walk down the street and we will see entirely different things. And the billionaire who walks down the street in Manhattan, he doesn't look at people's noses, he will look at a building and say, well, I can, I can hold that building out and turn it into apartments. There's another one, I can tear that one down. The gas station would do very well right there.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

So the question is where and when and how are these perceptual filters installed? And my observation is the earlier in experience they're installed, the more influence they have. You know, the Roman Catholic Church says give us a child before they're five and we will have them forever. They install certain perceptual filters and one of the tools that we have in prenatal re-imprinting is we have people put their head down, assume the prenatal experience, the posture, have the neurons firing in their brain, similar to that early, early, early experience, and then we can plug in whatever programming we want.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

And one of the things that is really easy to do is to help people become more affable, to have better rapport skills, to be more skilled with people and to get more enjoyment out of life. And another one that I work with people on is prosperity. There are patterns that you can install when people's head is in the prenatal position that has a profound influence on literally on every aspect of their life. But we now have the ability to literally program the deepest parts of the brain and have the result that we want and it's delightful to behold. Really, it's a lot of fun.

Paul Andrew:

So ultimately it gets back to. The theory is that by assuming the position of the prenat, of the embryo in the womb, and it's not just the tucking the chin into the chest, it's the whole curve of the spine, down even below the neck, that allows access to that period of time, in those parts of the brain, in the body, in all those cells that were developed during that period. And the theory is that you believe and I think I'm on the same page with you that by creating a different, an artificial but a different experience during some formative period, that it actually goes back and changes those cells that were formed at that time, that it actually regenerates neural pathways and experiences, so that even the memory of that time is no longer oh, mom's not paying attention to me, she's thinking about something else. But the memory becomes that no, mommy's got all her attention on me, she's focused in her and dad or in love now, and they can't wait for me to show up.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

Well, it's that precisely, and this whole thing about the prenatal period being very formative and foundational when you're arguing with your spouse what's going on, People will argue and then they'll have elevated bile salts and hydrochloric acid from their stomach. It really disturbs the physiology for people to argue, but if you're in love and you're in harmony and you have some degree of rapport and things are reasonably going well, you have an extended family that's somewhat supportive, you have finances that are somewhat stable. It's an entirely different experience than that of mom and dad or out of rapport, and I'm being subjected to uric acid and bile salts as my first experience in life.

Paul Andrew:

Here's my bath, here's your bath, baby, have your bath of amniotic fluid and bile salts and all the other things acidic and irritating.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

One of the interesting things is I'll have people put their head down and I'll say, how's the amniotic fluid? And they'll go oh, it's awful. I'll say what's wrong and that has been unexpectedly over and over again. They'll say mom is smoking and it really, really disturbs the pre-nate. It's not a nice experience. So all of the evidence we have in working with prenatal re-imprinting is anecdotal and it is close to 100%, as you can get right on the money.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

Early in the day, when I was just starting working with prenatal re-imprinting, every once in a while I'd find somebody that put their head down and we could not get the prenatal memory. And so what I would do is I would go back and I would re-anchor. I would anchor kinesthetically with a light touch on the shoulder or squeeze, and then I would turn my head just slightly and pick one of their ears left or right, and I would talk to them about the emotion that they were trying to resolve, with a specific tonality and a specific location and with a redundancy of anchoring. I would fire off the kinesthetic anchor, I would use the tonal anchor and I would use the spatial location of my voice. Every one of those.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

Those people would go oh yeah, here's what was going on. My mother and father, da-da-da-da-da-da-da. So sometimes just putting their head down and assuming the prenatal posture isn't enough and there's a learning curve. People have to learn to go back, you know, 50 years and if you help them by firing off an anchor associated with that feeling and using a tone of voice associated with that feeling and a spatial location for the direction of your voice, my experience is, these days everybody just goes immediately right back to the prenatal memory.

Paul Andrew:

That established the prenatal experience and, and that was the initial imprinting experience, and, more specifically, what you're talking about is if someone's struggling with some particular emotion that they feel frequently, that they don't like, that's not helping them. This is what you're talking about. Say more about setting an anchor and how that works in working with some specific emotional state.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

Well, you know, we're working with the optimal human experience, right, and so you've got two sides of the coin. People can come in and say I've got this and here's how I'm broken, I feel bad and I feel inadequate. Those are, you know, reparative therapeutic techniques. But the other side of the coin is what? It's, generative. And they'll come in and they'll say well, I'm good at this, I'd like to be better. I go wow, I'm good at making money, I'd like to even be better. I'd good at working with people, I'd like to be better. And you can always put them into the prenatal position, gain access to the deep paleocortical structures of the most primitive part of the brain and plug in some more fully adaptive, dynamic, powerful, optimal human experience reference structures. Then that's really a lot of fun. Okay, and that sounds good.

Paul Andrew:

But what I didn't hear is say more about this setting and anchor. So you mentioned like a squeeze on the shoulder or some kinesthetic anchor. Just say more, just explain that. We've got a few minutes left, but just to clarify that a little bit. You know what?

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

did Pavlov do with the dogs? He put a bowl of food in front of them. They salivated and he rang a bell. From that point forward, anytime you rang a bell, what happened? They would salivate. They would salivate, right. Actually, what happened was, whenever Pavlov rang a bell, he would find graduate students looking around the laboratory trying to find dogs.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

Right, because everything can be an anchor or a Pavlovian stimulus response reflex arc. And this is very, very simple. But sometimes it's actually difficult to learn that everything can be an anchor. So people would say to me I feel sad. Now I'd reach over and I'd set I would touch their shoulder with a specific, precise, exact touch, and then I would let it go. And then, whenever I wanted them to access that feeling, I'd reach over and I would touch exactly that same place. And if I set my anchor and timed it right and touched it, exactly the same, the same feelings would come up. And if their head was down and they were in the prenatal, it would help them do a transderivational search and drift back in their memory to the time when they felt that sadness for the very first time. Okay, okay, right, and you can use.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

Any stimulus can become paired with any response. Sometimes I'll see somebody walk in the door and they'll be sad or angry or whatever, and it's not even time to start doing any work. I'll just go and I will anchor the internal state that they've got, I will pair it with and they don't know that's a covert anchor and they'll sit down and they'll say well, doctor, I'm having problems with so and so, and I'll say, all right, we'll put your head down and I'll fire off the anchor and if I have the right emotional state pegged and they're available for it and everything is just right, that emotional state and the memory that caused it for them to feel that for the very first time will come right up.

Paul Andrew:

So. So then just you notice that they're in a particular emotional state when they're walking in the door. You set this audible anchor and and it's not like they're going okay, set the anchor now. No, you set the anchor when they're walking and, and you're able to use that, fire it off and it takes them right back to that emotional state.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

Right back to you know, couples will have a song that they, that they enjoy dancing to during the first days of their relationship and that becomes known as what Our song. They're playing our song, honey. Remember when I had my, I had my red slippers on and you had your bow tie, and remember it acts as an anchor, right? What happens when a plane flies overhead and you? You don't see it because it's above the clouds, but you hear it and you turn to your wife and you say you know, remember when we went to Hawaii last year, we flew to Hawaii. I'd like to do that again, right? So these anchors, we live in a sea of anchors and if you utilize them, you can, you can do all kinds of things. The most, one of the most things, fun things to do, is have people think about earning, you know, a living, being prosperous, and anchor feelings of creativity, neurological activity associated with creativity, and then fire that off as they're thinking about their job, their business. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Paul Andrew:

So they get more creative about prosperity and making money yeah.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

And you can do this now we have the tools to do it deliberately, deliberately, not accidentally. We and this is behavioral engineering, and I really mean behavioral engineering we can engineer your experience to a very significant degree.

Paul Andrew:

Okay, that's about, uh, that's about our time here and that's a nice note to end on. So that that ends episode what are we on? Episode five of the optimal human experience with Dr Joseph Deruzza, and we will see you next time. Now just back to Pavlov and those dogs. I didn't realize this, but I read something where they were collecting the saliva they. That's why he was making those dogs salivate, because they were collecting it. And then they give it. They give it to people to help their digestion. Ugh.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

Ugh, did you know that? Yeah, yeah I. I heard that I didn't dwell on it. It wasn't something that fascinated me. It's horrible. I didn't think about it all the time. I didn't think about it all the time.

Paul Andrew:

Well, not all the time, but you know, deserved a couple of minutes of disgust.

Dr Joseph Diruzzo:

No, this one, you know. Another thing they're doing is they're taking shit out of people who are healthy and putting you're shooting it. You know they're using like a turkey baster. You're shooting it into the colons of people who are sick.

Paul Andrew:

Okay, well, I've actually done that. I want to talk to you about it.

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