Optimal Human Experience with Dr Joseph Diruzzo
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Ep. 6 - Life is Difficult, Life is Hard...
Life is difficult, life is hard... but does it HAVE to be? Maybe not so much, especially with the tools we have available to achieve the Optimal Human Experience.
Explore how telomeres, those shoelace-like ends of our chromosomes, play a significant role in the aging process. From the effect of stress on the Hayflick limit to the implications this holds for our daily lives, our discussion will leave you reconsidering your life's pace.
Finally, get ready to examine the power of emotional states and their impact on our well-being. From the implications of using drugs to alter perceptual filters, to the potential healing power of prenatal experiences, we'll delve deep into the science of emotion. Our explorations include cell receptor site coding for certain emotion molecules and the importance of neuropeptide release for fostering positive patterns.
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Speaker 2:Welcome to episode 6 of the Optimal Human Experience Podcast with Dr Joseph DiRuzzo. I'm Paul Andrew and I consider myself kind of like the ringmaster of this podcast, because these conversations could go just about anywhere. It could be in that ring or that ring or the third ring. It's a three ring circus around here, folks, and my job is just to try and keep it, if not under the big top, at least somewhere inside the fairgrounds. But the one thing you can count on it's always a barrel of fun. So, optimal Human Experience, dr Joseph DiRuzzo, what do you want to talk about?
Speaker 3:It's difficult to pick something that we can talk about.
Speaker 2:It's just difficult, that's all. It is hard, isn't it? Yeah, it's very hard. It's not only hard, it's difficult and hard. And sometimes the difficulty makes it even harder.
Speaker 3:Life is difficult. I've heard it said.
Speaker 2:It just is.
Speaker 3:And once you just accept that life is difficult and you're going to get your butt kicked all for your entire lifetime, it's a little easier to endure, because then you realize it's just the way it is. Now the road less traveled with Dr Scott M Peck, the psychiatrist. He wrote then. He just said life is difficult. The Buddhists say life is suffering. But is that the way it is? I mean, why would it be that way? Is that the way it is for everyone? All?
Speaker 2:the time. Well, let me think about that. Yeah, pretty much. Everything's hard, everything's difficult, Everybody all the time. No, of course not, of course not.
Speaker 3:It is so informative to see videotape footage of primitive people who are in a more natural setting and for a lot of them life really is just a barrel of monkeys. I mean, they're just having a great time. We're talking to each other and out hunting and looking around and sometimes hunting monkeys. Sometimes hunting monkeys are digging up roots to eat and the odd thing is not everybody all the time. But there are groups that are, for the most part, actually pretty much in rapport and they don't have a lot of contention in their issues. They all pretty much agree that the rivers over there and the deserts over there, and it's better to have shelter and it's better to have food and it's better to have a fire. They don't, they don't have, you know, they don't argue Republicans versus Democrat, capitalist versus communist. They don't have those arguments. Matter of fact, they really don't have too many arguments at all and when they cooperate they do better. They have more game, they have more to eat, they have a fire, they have firewood. When they cooperate, each of them on an individual basis can really say I do better because I'm with this group and I do better because I'm in rapport with people in this group and we all have similar values. So the question must arise is for everybody, like this whole thing is.
Speaker 3:Life is difficult. If you look at people in an unguarded moment, you know you take your sanity, if not your life, into your own hands and watch people's faces. And I saw, I saw this young woman and she had died, part of her hair green and part of her hair purple, and she had put a bone through her nose, tattooed her neck and was lying on the ground screaming and thrashing around and kicking the ground with her feet. And I said, my goodness, this is really not what I had in mind when I thought about the optimal human experience. What's going on here? And if we apply our primary tool, prenatal re-imprinting, we do a little analysis using our anchoring techniques from neuro linguistic programming. First of all, let's just let's just review the, the fundamental dog of prenatal re-imprinting.
Speaker 3:A sperm eats an egg, makes a fertilized ovum that divides into two cells, four cells, eight cells, 16 cells and when it reaches the 32 cell stage, is called a blastilla. At that point the inner cell mass of the blastilla begins to spread out rostrally and tautily toward the head and toward the feet and immediately front forms the neural plate. The first differentiated tissue of the human body is nervous tissue and at that point personality structure begins to be established as a series of simple Pavlovian stimulus response reflex arcs. And all of the problems that people have in life without exception are the end results of maladaptive reflexes established prenatally in the prenatal period under conditions of maternal or fetal distress, and I challenge people to prove this or disprove it. But you will find that's the case over and over and over again. So life is difficult.
Speaker 3:Let's take two different scenarios. We'll take one 50,000 years ago A young woman has gotten pregnant. She doesn't have any guilt or shame about pregnancy or sex and her parents are supportive of the process of the pregnancy, or in-laws or supportive. Everybody in the tribe is delighted. There's more, there's going to be babies and the tribe is going to continue. And she is giving birth and out comes a little baby and she takes it and puts her on her breast and the baby begins to suckle. Everybody is as best as can be really happy. I mean, it's the ideal situation, but that happened quite often. Now, comparing contrast that where a woman goes to a big brick building and there are plenty of right angles in that area, all of the buildings have floors and there's all these right angles. Notice sometime, if you sit by a river and notice the fractal patterns in the river, they don't have any right angles. And then you go to a city and guess what happens? It's right angles everywhere. It's right angles everywhere and it's extremely stressful.
Speaker 2:Harsh right angles and loads of stress.
Speaker 3:Loads of stress and you can find sharp angles in crystal structures, but you walk into a forest and there aren't any right angles. You go and look at a stream, and there aren't any right angles. Look at a tree, look at a flower, there's patterns, but there aren't any right angles. Right angles are extremely upsetting. They're harsh. So, anyway, she goes into a OBGYN doctor's office and the person sitting behind the desk has, you know, subclinical cancer, diabetes, you name it.
Speaker 2:She's metabolic syndrome.
Speaker 3:Metabolic syndrome.
Speaker 2:She's under eye she looks like a raccoon Yep metabolic syndrome.
Speaker 3:She's very much overweight and very unhealthy. And so our gal walks up and says, hi, I'm here and I've got an appointment. And the assistant there says, okay, please have a, have a, pick some right angles to make yourself uncomfortable with and go sit next to them. And so she goes and there's a. You know, there's a time when she sees the doctor in the early days of industrialization.
Speaker 3:Do you know what was really stressed people the most? What's? That they had to be to work on time. Oh, on time, on time. They had never like, they didn't have this concept of being to work. Everybody had to be there at eight o'clock. It was very stressful. It took a lot to take a pastoral type of people who you know more or less. It was sunup when they got up, give or take 20 minutes and make them come and punch a clock and be on time. So there's another stressor and every time a person is stressed it affects their lungs, their large intestine, their stomach, their spleen, small intestine, bladder, kidney, gallbladder, liver, thyroid, adrenals. It shortens the number of Haiflich replications they can go through. It's a stress.
Speaker 2:Say more about that. The Haiflich limitation, what is the Haiflich limit?
Speaker 3:There was a doctor who I spoke to not all that long ago, dr Leonard Haiflich, and he discovered, back in the 60s, I believe, that human fibroblasts go through approximately 52 replications and then they become senescent and then they die, and that is known as the Haiflich limit. Now, if you get enough cells that die, what happens to you overall?
Speaker 2:Well, you're not far behind, since you're made of cells.
Speaker 3:Follow the yellow brick road. So he really made a huge contribution. And the Haiflich limit is very important. You know, when I go to seminars and sell in molecular biology, I will ask people with PhDs and master's degrees and sell and I'll say, tell me what you know about the Haiflich limit and they'll say I never heard of it.
Speaker 3:It is absolutely foundational if you're going to understand longevity. So one model that I like because it's nice and clean and neat, says that we're born with approximately 7,500 base pairs in our telomeres right T-A-G-G, t-a-g-g, t-a-g-g, t-a-g-g, over and over and over again. And when it's time for a cell to replicate, the chromosome opens up and Mother Nature arranges it so that a primer goes in and sits on the end of the chromosome and then an enzyme, dna polymerase two, fits in right on one side of the primer and then copies everything all the way back. What does it not copy?
Speaker 2:I'm going to guess something having to do with the telomeres, but that's a guess. Where the primer sits, on the chromosome doesn't get copied, which is at the end of the-. Which is at the end. Okay.
Speaker 3:All right. So you've been to Grand Central Station and you've seen where a train comes in and there's a stop at the end of the track, so the train doesn't fall off the end of the track. Well, that stop is hooked onto the track, it's bolted on the track and it's a short segment and the train can't use it. But if it isn't there then the train would fall off the track. But it's not really usable track. So when the chromosome opens up and the primer sits on the chromosome that's similar to the blocking piece on the end of the railroad track. Then the DNA polymerase two comes in, sits on it, copies everything all the way back. There's usually 150 base pairs approximately underneath the segment covered by the primer. So every time we have a replication we lose approximately how much 150 base pairs, 150, okay, 150 base pairs, all right. So you've got 7500 base pairs. You start out with what's the Hayflick limit? Approximately 50. 52., 52. All right, so do the math 50 goes into 7500, 150, 150 times that, that, that, that you lose 6 billion, 42.
Speaker 2:Oh math, you're math in my head. You're trying to get me to do yeah.
Speaker 3:You lose 150 base pairs. You have approximately 50 replications. That works out to 7500. That's your telomere. That's the mechanism of aging and that's why we age slowly and not all at once. Okay.
Speaker 2:And so the point. The point is as, as a, because I've heard it said that the every cell in your body is replaced over a period of about of about seven years or something like. So You're not the same person you were a number of years ago, because every cell is replaced periodically. You know, I've heard I've heard.
Speaker 3:I've heard that many times, but it's not. It's not the mechanism we're talking about and looking at right here.
Speaker 1:Oh great.
Speaker 3:And I and I don't think it's correct. I, you know, I think Dr Hayflick's material really is is right on the money. Well then you've, you've got the telomere and then the other side of the telomere, you've got the sub-telomeric area right, and then you've got the peritelomeric area, and as the chromosome gets eroded with the replications and you get into the, into the part of the chromosome that codes for protein synthesis and gene expression. And as we age you know, I was, I was with a little old lady the other day and she's going into senile dementia and it's still her. But inside of every one of her cells those chromosomes are just slowly, slowly, slowly shortening and the proteins that are generated as a result of her gene expression. Why do? Why do older people have, you know, skin that it's? It's because the proteins they're generating are not healthy. They don't come off a full chromosome, they come off of chromosome that has been worn down by the Hayflick limit, the Hayflick phenomena.
Speaker 3:I've heard it.
Speaker 2:I've heard it described also that the telomeres the longer your telomeres, the longer your lifespan, your longevity. And I've heard it described as shoelaces the little plastic parts on the end of the shoelaces. If you wear shoelaces a long time, those things tend to wear out and get all fluffy and scraggly and and wear out, we'll be, we'll be into you if your chromosomes get scruffy and try that Exactly Scruffy. So that's a science, that's a science term.
Speaker 3:That is as good a a explanation as you can get. I mean, it's like the little plastic clips on the end of a shoelace and as they wear out, you know. Then you got problems. So stress tends to turn cells over faster, which means the Hayflick limit comes up faster. And you look at people who've been stressed. You know people that went through concentration camps. A lot of them died, they lost a lot of weight, they looked terribly stressed and then shortly thereafter they went away.
Speaker 3:So the point is the less stress we have and the more ease and comfort we have and the fewer right angles and the more time we spend with people who love us and are like us, the better your life and your health and the closer to the optimal human experience will you will you have in your life. So here's our prenatal commentary you got a mother who's like stressed out of her mind, but it's usual, it's normal. In other words, it's normal for people to jump on a car and go 60 miles an hour and then go meet somebody they don't know is dressed all in white and sitting in a room that's all right angles and talk to people who are horribly ill. But nobody acknowledges it and that's usual I would have people say to me I'd say, what are you eating for breakfast? They'd say, oh, good food, usual stuff. And I'd say, really, what do you eat for breakfast?
Speaker 3:They go, well, you know milk on cereal and plenty of sugar and you know just white toast on white bread with plenty of margarine Good stuff. You know standards. I said you know. You know, in the his physiologic history of Homo sapiens that has never been up to this modern era, that has never been even remotely acknowledged as food Right. So the point is, the point is we live these really artificial lives and if you look at people in an art and guarded moment, they are experiencing far from the optimal human experience, right. And then they go and they have the. They have a gestation period in which mom and dad fight each other and the uterus is, mom is under stress, so the uterus does what clamps down, right, and so when it comes time to be born, it's like an ordeal, and the complex generalization that pops into their little head at the deepest level is life is difficult.
Speaker 2:Oh, ok, we're. That's about halfway through. We're going to break for one second and we're going to come back and discuss how life is difficult, especially from the earliest moments of development. But first, if you're interested in what we're talking about, you can go listen to any of the other podcasts there on all the platforms. Also, visit the website optimal human experience dot com, and we've got a page there with the podcast along with all the platforms there's links to get to. New podcasts are published Monday and Thursday at 10 o'clock am Central Time. Monday and Thursday 10 o'clock am Central Time. So look for that and again go to the website. There's more videos there and we're also putting together different courses and training that for the first time in decades, you can have access to in an online format. Up to this point, dr Joe has only worked with people in groups in person or in one on one sessions, but now we're putting it together in a format for online use. Now back to life is difficult.
Speaker 3:Well, you have. You have this little infant in this uterus and the molecules of emotion or stress and so on and so forth, so complex generalization that this person gets. His life is difficult and you know that is really very much supported by the life we lead. And you just look at the the faces in an unguarded moment, of most people on the street and it's pretty obvious that life is difficult. Do you remember Frederick Leboye? He was a Frenchman.
Speaker 2:You're shocked. Leboye was the Frenchman. So he had all these women have the the gentle, gentle birthing, the Leboye method of, am I correct?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, Again. Well, I'm just.
Speaker 1:Leboye.
Speaker 3:So he had these women have their birth in a nice warm water and there, you know, there were some sterility issues that that nurses, you know, wondered about. But nonetheless I saw some pictures of some of these kids being born and when they popped out you know it was not they were not reeking of the feeling that life is difficult. So it was good it was good.
Speaker 2:So the point is, I think what you're trying to say is that, shockingly, the experience that the prenat has, even from the as far back as the moment of conception, I mean certainly when the neural tissue starts forming at about the 32 cell stage. That because you made you made a comment about molecules of emotion and you've talked about that before. My understanding is the molecules of emotion are when someone has an emotional reaction, whether it's positive or negative. There are chemicals, there are neuropeptides and peptides that that are produced and they circulate through the system. And so at that point, if you've got this little developing baby, the baby is going to create cells with cell receptor sites. That code for whatever is floating around in the in the system. Am I on? Am I remembering this correctly, because that was a couple episodes ago?
Speaker 3:And whatever they're immersed in, they will become sensitized to and look for. And you know the ever hear the old saying I married my mother. Oh yeah, really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I said that too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know and the interesting thing is this this harks to a concept of, like you know, a lot of people are using drugs these days and they will say to me hey man, you want to talk, I'm getting stoned. And I go no, really, I'm okay, I'm, you know, I'm fine. They go no man, you know I'm shooting up, you want to hit, I'll give you a, you know we'll. You know, come on, come on.
Speaker 2:And when was the last time someone came up to you today, dr Joe, I'm shooting up man you want to hit. Hey, come on, get some, get your stuff you would be surprised.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I would be, but you know, I well, I hang out, or I was hanging out with a younger crowd for a little while and on, you know, it all went to jail or dead.
Speaker 3:And and but though. But I've done so much prenatal re imprinting that the molecules of emotion and most of the molecules that run around inside of me are actually pretty good. So I'm not like terribly bundled out all the time and I don't need to get stoned and I don't need to get high and I it's not, it's not on my menu and I it would be a diminution of my emotional state. I would actually feel worse.
Speaker 2:So you don't need to to chemically alter your your perceptual filters in order to feel like you might be approaching normalcy, like no.
Speaker 3:I'm, I'm, I'm hunting down the optimal human experience, and that is, you know, your perceptual, emotional, your internal states, and I, I one time I had a really high blood pressure and I stopped at a dock in the box place, and I got some Benzo diazepines.
Speaker 2:You know what they are Benny's, benny's that's like Valium and yeah, it was Valium was injectable Valium shot me up with that.
Speaker 3:Whoa, whoa, this is wonderful. And I realized I mean they're known as being highly addictive. I said this stuff is wonderful and it's so wonderful it's bad. I never, never, touched this stuff again. That was. I won't say it was a mistake because I'm not addictable, but I can see where people would be addicted to it and I would just say to them put your head down.
Speaker 3:Imagine your mother and father are deeply in love and they love each other and they've got all their attention on you. How does that feel? And you know people will walk in and they'll be like you know, and I'll say, here, put your head down and tell me what. What's it like to have your mother and father, you know, be okay about being in the same room with one another? And they'll go oh yeah, that's okay. And then what happens if mom and dad hug and you're in the middle there and it's nice and warm and safe. And so we begin plugging in generative patterns in the prenatal experience and the next thing you know, is life difficult. No, it's not so bad. You know, you start healing from the report deprivation sickness and you start getting some allies and your, your loving maid is actually a loving maid and you're not nervous all the time because you know your parents were worried about the Vietnam wars or some some tragedy that was imminent. And then people start to experience the optimal human experience, or at least closer to it.
Speaker 3:I had. I had a delightful young lady. She was in her fifties and her life had been one disaster after another, repeated over and over and over again. And I did some prenatal work with her and she took a deep breath and she let it all out. And I said how is that? She said it's wonderful, it's much better. I said well, what, what? What did you experience? And she thought from a moment and she said it was a letting go, a letting go. And I said you know, you're absolutely right. It was a letting go, wasn't it? And she said yes, so everybody's going to have their own code words for it, you know, but for a lot of people, guess what it is.
Speaker 2:It's a letting go which makes sense when you think about it. I'm I keep going back to that that cell cellular level, with the cell receptor sites. They're coded for those molecules of emotion that the mother experienced when she was pregnant, whether it was anger or frustration, or you know, she's chain smoking cigarettes, and there's all those cell receptors it's looking for those neuropeptides to read, to recreate, recapitulate that feeling that they had for the very first time when they were developing. So it makes perfect sense that when you, when they go through a prenatal session and put in and install a generative pattern, well what happens to those cell receptors? They have to let go of those neuropeptides to make room for the other positive neuropeptides to come in, and so she can go. Oh my gosh, that feels better Because from my experience that's very often the case one of those generative patterns and you work through something that's been bugging you your whole life and it it lets go. I mean it has to be happening on the cellular level.
Speaker 3:It has to be happening at the level of cell receptor sites and the specificity thereof. You know it's so crazy. If your mother was a worry wart, guess what kind of a woman you're going to marry.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't know I'm a little concerned about, I'm a little worried, but I don't think, you know, it shouldn't be that bad, should it? It's not gonna be that bad, is it?
Speaker 3:I mean, it's you know. And to think that Richard Banneler said one time to think that it takes a lot of audacity to think that if subatomic particles move in a fashion that's non random, it takes a lot of audacity to think that our emotions and our perceptions are just random. They're not. They come out of your prenatal period and and they're remarkably logically consistent. That's why everybody says I married my mother Right.
Speaker 1:Because they did.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they looked for somebody who would generate in them the same set of emotional states, the same molecules of emotion that mom did, and then they're all set there and they can recapitulate for an entire lifetime the circumstances of the prenatal experience and every day, for every meal.
Speaker 2:It's a big bowl of recapitulation molecules, of emotion stew Pretty much have some pretty much, you know.
Speaker 3:if you ask any accountant say, is the 1040 form the earnings record for your clients, does it change much from year to year? What will they say?
Speaker 2:Yeah, for the most part I would think it's not. It's pretty consistent. Once they're in a job and they're working, they're just kind of stays pretty within a range. It'll be in that range.
Speaker 3:I mean, it's the same with everything and it's because the molecules of emotion, perception, under, under the circumstances, you have your prenatal period, they pretty much everything stays pretty much the same.
Speaker 2:Well, again, which makes it I'm going to interrupt you again, being the ringmaster, I'm going to interrupt you again, which is letting go. Which you got to let, go, just to let you know you want to let go. Allow yourself to be interrupted. Well, I remember years and years and years ago, I listened to one of those. It was nightingale conant, which had all of these different training tapes and self development tapes and there was one by a guy named Dennis Waitley, if I remember and he talked about.
Speaker 2:He talked about the reticular activating system, which is essentially this thermostat in your brain in your brain, which makes perfect sense.
Speaker 2:So you married your mother and your your your loving mate, who is your mother, generates the same neuropeptides and same same emotional stew that you experienced while you were a prenat. And you know what. If it gets, if it gets too low, if there's not enough of them, what do you do? You go and you find the triggers to push so that she can, you know, push your buttons and get you back into that state that, oh, okay, now we're, we're in this, we're in this narrow band, we're in this. We're in the optimal state for insanity and recapitulation.
Speaker 3:In statistics it's known as regression to the mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah within one standard deviation, typically. And where are standard deviations? Oh, no, that's you can't tolerate that.
Speaker 3:Where? Where are the tides the highest in on earth? The Bay of Fundy right up in Nova Scotia. Yeah, I was about to say that. Well, the tights are roaring in and but they only go so high and then they roar out. And every time they roar in or roar out, it's a what a regression to the mean is things.
Speaker 3:Yeah, things don't get too far out of whack. Dave Dobson used to say apples don't fall far from the tree. So the real question is if we want to experience the optimal human experience, what do we do? Oh, we started doing a little generative work with the prenatal material, and the nicest thing is to have an internal guided fantasy where your mother is just in a nice warm place Maybe she's outside on the on the porch sitting in a nice soft chair. It's a beautiful day, the wind is is just enough to brush the leaves, and the air is fresh and sweet, and she's having a wonderful time eating a large piece of fresh watermelon. And right, and it begins to put you into a trance already.
Speaker 2:Since you like watermelon when my mom eats it. Yeah yeah and yeah, there's something about being in that prenatal position. We talked about that in the last episode. We'll get into it again, I'm sure. And boy, imagining that that's what's going on and the attention's on the, on you as the baby boy howdy, doesn't get much better than that.
Speaker 3:It's, it's surprisingly effective. I mean, I have people who are just the you know, they're wildly upset and I'll say them okay, I got it. You're wildly upset, take a deep breath, let it out, put your head down and imagine your mother's got her hand on her tummy and she's thinking about you, and they will calm down and just go. It's the coolest thing. Yeah, it is cool. There is probably nothing worse for the prenat than for the parents to be in a state of denial regarding the pregnancy. I mean, you know, and people they'll say to me I've, I'm lonely all the time. I don't say all the time. They go yeah, all the time, yeah, every second. You know yeah.
Speaker 3:And every time when they're in a crowd and guess what, they're lonely. And this has been kind of the subject of existential. You know, writing for a long time. People feel lonely, they have lead the lives of quiet, desperation. And how is that that we didn't connect the dots? I mean, mom and dad are both. They both professionals, they both have careers. They don't want a pregnancy and they go around going I can't be pregnant, no, I'm not pregnant. And and what happens? Person is born terminal, lonely report, deprivation installed when in the prenatal period, and boy, is that a bugger. And then they marry six or eight or 10 or 12 or 15 people or they'll have lovers. And once, you know, I said to somebody the other day, once the body count gets above 20 or 30 thousand, you know the bloom and pen is off the rose.
Speaker 2:You know it's hard to it's hard to pair bond after it's just not quite the same Now. You didn't really say I sense hyperbole. I think that's a no, I said no.
Speaker 3:Really I said that to Randy Kelton. He might want other people like that. I said sure, yeah, we'll chamber. We'll change it.
Speaker 2:OK, that's. That's it for episode six of the life is difficult human experience. Oh boy, yeah, it is difficult, so we'll. We'll see you next time on the optimal human experience podcast with Dr Joseph Geruso and this whole thing about body count it's it seems like that's what it seems to be a very common topic of discussion, which is kind of weird in a way, isn't it?
Speaker 1:Or maybe it is?
Speaker 2:Maybe I'm weird and it's the.
Speaker 3:it's the big thing for the guys. I mean, you know, their probability of reproductive success, of their offspring, you know, goes down when the woman has a high body count. Oh yeah, horses, the horses are higher with women with high body counts.
Speaker 2:That I read. I read the story the other day about this might have been some celebrity, was quite the sports guy or something who had you know two or three kids and the guy raised them as his own and turns out it was one of his kids. It was his best friend's kids, who his wife had been having this. Oh God, you know, guys, this is, oh, I see, I see, how's my kid? I mean, you're good. Whoa.
Speaker 3:Whoa, whoa.
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