Optimal Human Experience with Dr Joseph Diruzzo

Ep. 7 - Talk About Everything: Oriental Diagnosis & Emotional Health

Dr. Joseph Diruzzo (aka "Dr. Joe")

Ever wondered about the role of calcium and vitamin D in children's health? You're not alone! We've invited the remarkable Dr. Joseph DiRuzzo to join us, sharing his gripping stories and experiences from his private practice near the Canadian border. Dr. DiRuzzo’s simple solutions, like calcium lactate and cod liver oil, dramatically improved the health of countless children, and he has plenty of insights to share about the relationship between these vital nutrients and our well-being.

As the conversation progresses, we steer toward the riveting world of traditional Chinese medicine. Dr. DiRuzzo's astounding patient recovery stories speak volumes about the efficacy of Oriental diagnosis and the large intestine meridian in patient treatment. But it doesn't stop there; we also dive deep into the concept of report deprivation sickness and its impact on the younger generations. We highlight the urgency of acquiring practical life experiences and managing relationships, both personal and professional, for a well-rounded, fulfilling life. This episode promises thought-provoking discussion that will leave you contemplating long after it's over! So grab a cup of your favorite brew, sit back and join us. You won't want to miss it!

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Speaker 1:

This is the Optimal Human Experience Podcast with Dr Joseph DiRuzzo. To learn more, visit OptimalHumanExperiencecom. And now. Dr Joseph DiRuzzo and the Optimal Human Experience Podcast.

Speaker 2:

Welcome to Episode 7 of the Optimal Human Experience Podcast with Dr Joseph DiRuzzo. I'm Paul Andrew, I'm the Ringmaster of sorts, but the main attraction in the center ring. Ladies and gentlemen, dr Joseph DiRuzzo, what do you want to talk about?

Speaker 3:

Let's talk about everything. Hey might as well.

Speaker 1:

We've got 30 minutes We'll talk about everything.

Speaker 2:

You go first.

Speaker 3:

How it all fits together. I delight in pulling things together from obtuse sources and this will make perfect sense to you after you hear it. I was practicing privately in private practice in way up near the Canadian border, where it is cloudy most of the time and it is so dark that if you're thirsty you can take a cup, go outside and reach up and scoop a cup of fresh water out of the clouds. I used to wash things, wash clothes and put them outside to dry, and three days later they'd still be wet. So it was dark and in the absence of sunlight, to generate irradiated ergotarol in your skin or vitamin D. There is a relationship between the absorption of calcium and vitamin D and hydrochloric acid.

Speaker 3:

So these moms would bring in these little kids and they'd be sick. They'd be blowing green stuff out of their nose, they would have tubes in their ears, they would be oh and so they'd say, and the mothers would be like psychotic with frustration and I'd say, well, what's wrong? And they'd say he's sick and I've taken him to every doctor and he's on penicillin and moxacillin and erythromycin and he's not getting better. And if you're a parent, if you're a parent, you have. I mean, there's no desperation, like when your child is sick or whatever.

Speaker 3:

So I would give them calcium lactate, a very easily digested calcium, and I would give them a cod liver oil tablet. Sometimes I'd give them a teaspoon of cod liver oil and characteristically, the kids would just simply fall asleep in their mother's arms shortly after they got the calcium, and they were always running a low grade temperature. Why Well? The body was trying to dissolve some calcium out of the bones and put it in the circulating superficial circulation right Universally. Almost every time, within a couple of minutes, the kid would quiet right down and the moms would look at me with eyes of silent adoration.

Speaker 2:

I mean boy, did I get him to sleep? He's not screaming with pain and in horror.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and the green stuff you know coming out of their nose and various orifices In the industrial age. All of a sudden we had food, we had lots of it and much of it was refined and they took the goodness out of the food and fed it to the pigs and then you paid extra to five pig meat and almost everybody is sick. And along with this sickness comes an accentuation of the problems that come inside of interpersonal relationships. You know, I know this guy who's? He's a good guy but he's a little short of patience and he's irritable and uh, oh, please. There are times when I'll say something to him and he'll. You know he'll, he's right on, he needs is right on the edge.

Speaker 2:

Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 3:

Every relationship has to be managed, there's no question about it. Your primary relationship, the relationship with your kids. I suggested something for you to do with your children about a week ago and you did it. What's what?

Speaker 2:

do you notice? Well, we got what's called a knock hockey game. It's like a big board and it's a hockey with little hockey sticks and a wooden puck, and and you, you slap the thing off the board and try to get it through the through the goal. And what I noticed is, first of all, it's fun. Second of all, I beat them mercilessly to know not really they actually, you know pretty dang you, they're pretty good at it.

Speaker 3:

Let them win once in a while. But what do you notice?

Speaker 2:

Let them win they win, they went on their own. What the heck are you talking about? Let them win. Yeah, they kick my butt, all right. So what do you notice? Well, I tell you this there's a lot more human interaction than there is when we play, for example, a video game together, or we sit down in front of the, the pixels of the of the television, and watch some seemingly child show that invariably has some other hidden message right underneath the surface.

Speaker 3:

That's probably inappropriate for children, but so intergalactic entertainment really doesn't compare to like face to face doing something with your hands, kinesthetic yelling, having fun smiles. How hard would, how hard would it be for your child to turn you to you and say I hate you, you never did anything for me. I mean, it's not going to happen.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. They can say mostly what I hear is dad, Because I made some bad joke but it's as bad as it gets.

Speaker 3:

We have report deprivation sickness between the generations and on top of it, the younger generations has a severe disorientation from not having enough practical life experience. You know, and I was watching on on YouTube, there was there's a guy and he has those show and he has a half a dozen women and they all talk about how horrible things are and how men are inadequate and women are worse. And there was a gal sitting second row behind and the camera was focused on her and she had a. She had a hat that was reminiscent of Kaiser Wilhelm. Ever see that one?

Speaker 2:

And she had long beautiful hair. Kind of weird reference.

Speaker 3:

Okay, oh, she did this and anyways, she was not on the camera To the bus, best of her knowledge, she was sitting back and I got the opportunity to watch her face in and Unguarded moment. She had this sad little face. Where did she have that sad little face for the very first time?

Speaker 2:

Okay, the very first time Dab in the dark. I'm going to say she probably was making that face before.

Speaker 3:

she was even born and it was so obvious. That was her natural face, that was the face that she, that was her default position. You can almost hear her father in the background going Doris, I thought I told you to make sure that you got your birth control pill prescription filled up. You didn't forget it, did you? We can't have a baby now, poor girl I mean. So here she is. She's getting report deprivation sickness installed almost on a professional basis, and you can see. You can see it. You can see it in the, in their faces, just sitting there, the sad little face. She's 22 years old, nobody loves me, and she was beautiful. All relationships have to be managed. All relationships have to be managed. All relationships have to be managed and it can be fun and easy.

Speaker 3:

Dave Dobson, when he met a new client everybody has a characteristic pace and walk and waddle, you know, and he would like he would, from across the parking lot, walk up to them in the same walk that they were walking up to him with. It's a mirroring and pacing kind of thing. He would get reported them right down to their toenails and then he would ask them their name. He'd repeat their name back to them in the same tonality, cadence pace. And the guy had fabulous report and he used to say, and it's true, you just don't know it, a stranger is just a friend that you haven't met yet, a stranger. And he meant it. And boy he could. He. He said the world, if you understand it, the world is just full of really neat people who have got all kinds of information and other resources for you and they can be your friends Absolutely Well.

Speaker 3:

So all relationships have to be managed. Report is based on matching matching external behavior, internal states, tone of voice, object, you know, content, whatever. And Dave used to say just go back every once in a while and model back to them some of their external behavior. It doesn't have to be long, it doesn't have to be long, but you have to like touch base from time to time. Right, and if you want to have a relationship, you're going to have to manage it. Fortunately, we have our NLP tools, we have prenatal re-imprinting, we have all the other technologies, dave Dobson's, other than conscious communication, and it's fun and it's easy and it's extremely productive.

Speaker 2:

I mean, it's a matter of and it makes I'm going to interrupt you right there, just like I did. It makes sense. I'm sitting here thinking as a layman. It makes sense because people gravitate toward a particular type of other people. They feel comfortable in this group. They don't feel so comfortable in that group. And what is it about that group? Well, that group probably is kind of like them. I remember my one of my older daughters went through this phase of. I don't know if it was goth or emo or both, oh God that's wonderful, but it was basically.

Speaker 2:

You know she wore black all the time. She had black, you know eye shadow and you know this drippy stuff on her. I mean, it's a little horrible, right, because she was such a pretty girl, but who am I to judge? And then I noticed she was hanging around with guess what Other people that looked like her and I said well, you know, why is it that? Why is it that you wear black all the time and you put this weird makeup on and you do all these things and you walk around with a big sour look on your face? Well, just trying to be different.

Speaker 3:

I look at her and everybody else.

Speaker 2:

I'm trying to be different by being exactly like my friends. Ok, ok, you know what. They were managing their relationships because they they felt comfortable hanging out with each other. Now, happily, she's through that phase.

Speaker 3:

No disc, no disrespect to all you goths or emos or whatever it really is you know I would have paid you to take a black marker of some sort you know cosmetic and make three little tears under your eyes when you went and talked to her. I would, I would, I would Anything, you would get rapport with her.

Speaker 3:

More than likely More than most people like, try to get rapport through screaming and by and large, it really doesn't work. It just doesn't work all that well and and it's rapport over time when I come from, there's this fellow named Simeon. He has a restaurant and he has, you know, like Syrian food and they have shish, kebabs and hummus and all this stuff and he will remember somebody's name if he hasn't seen him for five or 10 years. Oh wow, I mean, and he does the rapport thing to an extraordinary degree in a town that was population collapsing. Guess what there is a cost to he never had a problem.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, probably made a big difference.

Speaker 2:

People never knew about where to go. Where do you want to go? Let's go over there to that monkey guy. Oh, not, simeon Like.

Speaker 3:

Simeon, simeon, ok, usually it's Syrian or what. Anyway, ok, yeah, it's. It's so much of it is, you know, based on rapport. So much of it's based on rapport. So, if you're, if you want a relationship and you have to do what is known as a second position, shift right. You have to look at a person and say, well, what are they experiencing when they're in my presence? Hmm, ok, and you have to be mindful of not only here's what I'm getting out of the deal and here's what I want to get out of the deal, but you also have to be mindful for the other person if you want a relationship that lasts over time. Short term rapport you just mirror back to them their external behavior. But long term rapport, you're going to need to model their external behavior, values, et cetera, and stay in rapport over time.

Speaker 3:

How many you were in financial services? How many people send a Christmas card to their clients in the holidays? Well, most, if not all, most if not all. Guess what? It doesn't say anything yet. So, as I'm, I we're still in touch. I think of you from time to time. I still value as a client most if not all. And guess what? It's always Christmas time, always Christmas time. It's always Christmas time.

Speaker 3:

Right, I got to buy more cards staying in rapport Absolutely critical. So you have the keys to the kingdom in the sense that you will play knock hockey with your kids and that will lead you to do other things where mind and body are involved. Your rapport will go be an ongoing thing long term and you will be spared A lot of the grief that comes from you know what goes on these days where the kids die their hair purple and decide and decide they're a cat, get a gay cat at that.

Speaker 2:

Well, nothing with a happy cat.

Speaker 2:

That's about that's a let's take a short break here. It's about halfway through our time. Just a reminder if you're enjoying what we're talking about, or you want to learn more about what we're talking about, or you want to see what kind of programs and courses Dr Joe has come up with over the years, we are in the process of making those available in an online format for the first time in decades and decades. The website is you guessed it Optimalhumanexperiencecom Optimalhumanexperiencecom. You can go there and find out more. Get on our mailing list. There's a, an email, kind of a short course email program that'll walk you through some of the basics of the optimal human experience. What is it? How do you, how do you get there? How do you have that experience for yourself? So, dr Joe, back to calcium lactate and you.

Speaker 3:

Managing relationships. Calcium is such an important mineral in the body. It's a huge you know percentage and it's extremely important for the functioning of the nervous system. I had a fellow who was an engineer at General Electric and his wife was extraordinarily irritable.

Speaker 2:

And I don't know why people like that. How can they act like that? That's just horrible.

Speaker 3:

Well, they were, they were she was going to be admitted to a mental institution. I mean, this is a true story. Oh, Did I, did I tell you about the son who had the infection in his toe?

Speaker 2:

Okay, which which story would take, maybe but uh, let's talk about the true story of the woman who was going to go mental because she didn't have enough calcium and she was irritable all the time and why does that interest you so much?

Speaker 3:

I don't know. So they brought her to me and I sat with her for quite a while and I said you know what? Have you had surgery? And then it is. And the other thing she said oh, you had my gallbladder removed, you know, 10 years ago.

Speaker 3:

Well, the function of the gallbladder is to put a, is to store bile. After red blood cells are broken down in the spleen and the stores bile. And when fat goes past the, the, the gallbladder, it squirts a little bile onto the fat, emulsifies it. The purpose of bile in the system is emulsified fat and fat soluble vitamins, vitamin A, d and E are you know they're? They're critical. So I looked down there and I said okay, let's try this. I gave her some calcium. I gave her some uh cod liver oil and I gave her ox bile of an ox, ox bile tablets. Right the next day she was dramatically improved. They did not have to put her away. So I gave her some calcium. I gave her some calcium, she was dramatically improved. They did not have to put her away, isn't that, isn't it?

Speaker 2:

Oh, hold on, hold on Time out. She's on her way. She's in a straight jacket, on her way to the insane asylum. They they pull over to grab a Coke and happens to be near your office. They say, oh, let's go see this guy.

Speaker 3:

She walks in.

Speaker 2:

She walks in. And suddenly oh wait a minute, here's your Coke. You want some bag of chips with that? Oh, by the way, let me give you some calcium lactate and and uh, and cure you instantly.

Speaker 3:

I. It is when you work with nutrition. You will be shocked at how fast people come along. I mean, it's just astonishing. It really is Okay, all right. I mean I had battalions of little kids who were sick. 40% of my practice at one time was pediatrics and I used to do.

Speaker 3:

I used to do all kinds of stuff. They would have tonsillitis and they'd be scheduled for a tonsillectomy. Right, and you can. You can put on a glove, put on some eucalyptus oil and have the child open their mouth, lay him on their back and put your, put your finger like this so that they can't bite you, and like this first. This is audio.

Speaker 2:

Like, yeah, it's being like, put your finger had the cheat.

Speaker 3:

Well, you put it in, you push the cheek in such a way that if they bite, they'll bite their cheek. Then you take the finger of the oh and you strip the just quickly. You strip the tonsils both sides, rip, rip, with that glove hand with the eucalyptus oil on it, while you're holding their cheek in such a way that they can't bite you. The kid will look at you with. They'll give you that dirty look and begin to kill you at that point and spitting. They'll spit up pus and all kinds of junk that came out of the tonsils. Guess what happens the next day?

Speaker 2:

Either they do come and kill you or they feel better.

Speaker 3:

The kids, you know, their temperatures come down, they're they're dramatically better. There is a plethora. That means a lot of. There are many, many, many tools inside of physiologic health care and whether you're using Chinese medicine as a diagnostic tool or as a treatment, or in in in uh, in Oriental diagnosis, you can look at all the points of the body, right, you've got all these lines that they call the meridians and they're a therapeutic, but they're also diagnostic. So I had a man come in one day and he had this huge blemish on his, on his face, right here, and it was like it was, you know, caked over and awful. I said to him have you been constipated? And that's the last point on the large intestine meridian he said yeah, how on?

Speaker 2:

earth, did you know? So the blemish was next to his nose, right here on his face right next to the.

Speaker 3:

You know what an inch above the corner of his mouth, right next to the, is the wing of his nose. Okay, got it Large into last point on large intestine meridian. So I gave him something to improve his colon. I told him go home and take a hot washcloth and just soak this area and improve the circulation. Well, we came back three days later and he was dramatically better.

Speaker 2:

Okay, now we were talking about relationships.

Speaker 1:

You talked about the crazy woman. Everything you do together.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we were talking about everything and you mentioned the guy with the toe. Did I tell you about the guy with the toe? You're not getting away with that. What about the guy with the toe? What toe, what guy?

Speaker 3:

There was a young man. He got an appointment to Annapolis. He was getting out of high school and he had letters and he was an athlete and he got an infection in his big toe.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 3:

So they took him to every doctor and they couldn't for some reason they couldn't knock the infection out. They brought him to me and I just happened to have an office across the street from the general electric plant and that's where these people worked in. So they brought him to me and they said he has a toe problem, he can't go to Annapolis. Did you call a tow truck? We're terrified, sorry. Sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 3:

So I looked at the acupuncture point. And what was it? Liver point number one. I gave him a bottle of desiccated calves liver. I said take this home and take plenty of it. And his father called me the next day and he said I don't know what you did, but it's dramatically improved and we no longer live in fear that he can't go to Annapolis. So that I got a lot of points for that. And that's what had them bring me their wife, the one who was, you know, really, really upset. People, wait a minute, wait a minute.

Speaker 2:

The kid with the toe yeah.

Speaker 1:

That was just the woman in the straight jacket was his mother.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, okay, small one.

Speaker 3:

But you know, people, I would fix a tonsillitis and somebody bring me somebody with hemorrhoids or the I'd fix it, you know.

Speaker 3:

I see the brain, ankle and they'd say, well, how are you with your aches? So there's no rhyme or reason of people like you and you stay in rapport, they will bring you. I used to build a practice in 90 days. I'd have a practice in 90 days that other doctors would, who'd been in practice for 10 years, would envy. They were green with envy. It's easy, you know, and you have the force and power and authority of mother nature. Who can stand in your way, whether it's an infection in the, in the tonsils, or a toe that's problematic or somebody who needs to be put in a nut house. I mean, you know, if you work with nature and if you understand all of this stuff and it all fits together. That's why we call it the Optimal human experience, where you have rapport and healthcare and communication and identification of your own personal criteria and it just. It just makes life worth living and without it life can really be unpleasant.

Speaker 2:

It does sound better than the say, for example, the the mediocre human experience.

Speaker 3:

And yeah, really, if for a lot of people you know they need to step up and we're here to provide it, yeah, For some people, some people mediocre, would be a step up. It would. For many people, mediocrity is an elevated state to which they can only aspire. But setting that aside, let's have fun with it and and be effective and do good and help people. Okay.

Speaker 2:

So we've got about a few minutes left, four or five minutes Do you have? What else can you say about managing relationships? Because there's, we have all these different relationships in all different areas of our lives. We have work relationships, we have family relationships, we have friend relationships, we have more family relationships. What are some other things that people can do to help people that people can look to or at least consider to have in place, managing all these different relationships.

Speaker 3:

One tool that I will use characteristically is when people come together to talk, each person will have an ideal distance from the other person. So they'll shake hands and they'll get, say, four feet apart, right, all right, I'll back up six inches. I'll let them establish the distance they're comfortable with in regards to me, and then I'll back up six inches. And what do they do?

Speaker 2:

They kind of shuffle forward about six inches, oh, to get back to their distance that they're comfortable with.

Speaker 3:

Get back to their distance that they're comfortable with, and so then I will kind of shuffle back. You know unobtrusively about six inches, six inches, six to eight inches, and so what do they do?

Speaker 2:

They. Well they're now. They're no longer comfortable because you've changed. You've changed the distance, so they close the gap to get their comfortable distance back.

Speaker 3:

And then, once they're comfortable again, I will shift back another six inches. And what are they going to do?

Speaker 2:

They move forward again and they're thinking by this time no, they're not thinking this, but they're going. Oh, why does this guy?

Speaker 3:

keep moving. They don't think that at all. What is usually the convinced number for most people?

Speaker 2:

Most people need to hear or experience something three times. Some people have four, most people three.

Speaker 3:

Yeah. How many, how many strikes until you're out? Three strikes and how many outs until you change the inning Three outs, okay. So for most people it's a three time convinced or mechanism. So I'll let them get their comfortable distance and I'll back up. They'll kind of move toward me, I'll back up, they'll move toward me, I'll back up, they'll move toward me and bam, what complex generalization sets inside of their entire nervous system. Generalize they to move toward me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And from that point forward, I'll walk in the room.

Speaker 3:

And what do they do? They're going to get a move toward you, they'll move toward me, and it just helps make everything smooth, it just helps develop rapport, isn't that kind of slick?

Speaker 2:

Right, it's kind of slick and it kind of I get this image of you ever been to one of those Marionette shows. You know where they you know the puppet masters that you can't see him and there's just strings coming down on the stage. You know, with these puppets, hi, how are you?

Speaker 3:

Well walk over here.

Speaker 2:

Walk over here.

Speaker 3:

There's two ways to take all of this stuff. You can say Dr Joe's going way out of his way to make people comfortable with him and to develop rapport so that things work. Or you can go uh-oh, there's manipulation here.

Speaker 2:

Well, it's not like I don't have rapport everywhere I go and I'm not cynical at all.

Speaker 3:

No, you know, the only people that get upset when you bank away from them are people who are irritable because they don't have enough vitamin A in their system.

Speaker 2:

And it happens every time. It's overrated. It's overrated.

Speaker 3:

Vitamin A really lubricates the in the kidney membrane so people would have so much of our health related problems is related to the fact that we need to have real strong, good, healthy, robust nutrition a lot of it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I did hear this nutritionist speak one time and he said that they had done tests on back in the fifties of different fruits and vegetables and that sort of thing and measured the vitamin content. And the one that stuck out in my mind was I believe it was an apricot currently raised organic apricots. The apricots in 1950s, when things didn't have to be organic because there weren't all as many near as many pesticides and poison sprayed on the crops, those apricots from the fifties had 58 more, 58 times more vitamin A than the finest organically grown apricot that you can buy today. And this was 10 years ago.

Speaker 2:

So, I'm not telling what it is now.

Speaker 3:

So yeah, and that's I mean, and it's horrifying, Almost everybody is walking around with some degree of nutritional deficiency and it's surprising that we don't have more problems, but sooner or later everybody ends up in the hospital, pretty much yeah yeah, no wonder.

Speaker 2:

Well, on that note, that's a. That's about our time here for episode 7 of the optimal human experience.

Speaker 3:

I'm gonna back up.

Speaker 2:

Glad you could listen. The optimal human experience, the optimal human experience, the optimal human experience. That's right. Yeah, so we will see you next time. Poco, apoco, poco, apoco. Manager relationships, which means get a stick Poco, apoco, little by little. That's like one time I was listening to this musician play and I brought my Mexican friend with me and my Mexican friend said Olay at the end of the song and my musician friend says what does that mean, olay? And my friend said with milk, olay.

Speaker 3:

I don't think so Are you really Mexican?

Speaker 2:

I'm not sure that you are. I'm not sure.

Speaker 3:

See you next time.

Speaker 1:

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