Optimal Human Experience with Dr Joseph Diruzzo

Ep. 13 - The Power of Congruence and the Law of Attraction (proven by science)

• Dr. Joseph Diruzzo (aka "Dr. Joe")

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Ever wondered how the power of congruence shapes our relationships and overall well-being? Prepare to be enlightened as we, your hosts, Paul Andrew and Dr. Joseph Diruzzo delve into this fascinating topic, drawing from compelling references like the law of attraction and constructive interference. We dissect the crucial role of a robust primary relationship and its positive impact on our internal health, setting the stage to enhance your life.

We then navigate the intriguing concepts of status, prenatal re-imprinting, and their interplay with our brain's pattern installation. You'll discover how prenatal posture and eye movements can unlock your paleocortex and amplify creativity. Speaking from personal journeys, we share how these insights birthed a unique creativity technology that promotes positive prenatal patterns and rapport skills, key ingredients to the optimal human experience.

Finally, we invite you into the world of creativity technology and prenatal re-imprinting, shining a light on how these tools can empower you to overcome life's hurdles, and usher in love, happiness, prosperity, and self-empowerment. Moreover, we venture into scientific proof of the universal law of attraction and its correlation to constructive interference. You'll be surprised to learn that your authenticity emits a more potent frequency from the human body than even love. It's a fascinating discussion you won't want to miss — a chance to truly enhance your human experience!

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Speaker 1:

This is the Optimal Human Experience Podcast with Dr Joseph DiRuzzo. To learn more, visit OptimalHumanExperiencecom. And now. Dr Joseph DiRuzzo and the Optimal Human Experience Podcast.

Speaker 2:

Welcome. Welcome to episode 13 of the Optimal Human Experience Podcast with Dr Joseph DiRuzzo. I'm Paul, andrew, and the question must arise what are we going to talk about? But I'm going to answer it this time. Are you ready? Absolutely, I am ready as I'm going to get, I can tell. I can tell by your reaction of shaking your head vigorously in a no manner.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready, it's okay. Yeah, we can talk about it. Let's talk about congruence. Let's talk about congruence. Let's talk about being congruent and dynamic and forceful and centered and passionate and powerful, and let's talk about being congruent.

Speaker 2:

Well funny. You should bring that up because, as you might recall, amir, 12 hours ago or so, I sent you a video by this fellow, gary Brecca, and in this video he claimed to have found the secret, the hidden secret to the law of attraction. What makes the law of attraction work? He said there is a power on the earth, a force of nature, that is four quadrillion times stronger than the power of love. Well, I might be exaggerating. He said a lot, though. What do you say? 4,000, 40,000?

Speaker 3:

Some huge amount, I believe it was 4,000 times more powerful than love.

Speaker 2:

Which I want to know who measured that?

Speaker 3:

but still, yeah, how do you measure that? And his whole.

Speaker 2:

Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 3:

He made a good point. Well, let's see, did he made a good point? If you look at an oscilloscope and you try and chart out neurological behavior and etc. He had a marvelous sine wave on his oscilloscope and he showed that if you increase the intensity, the sine wave gets bigger and stronger and more wonderful.

Speaker 2:

Are you hearing that?

Speaker 3:

Are you hearing that the bottom line is being congruent, having all of your intention? You know there's a thousand different ways to talk about intention, congruence, dynamic etc. But we can tell people who are not congruent, who have not given a full commitment, who are not really on board. And in prenatal re-imprinting we talk about the relevance criteria. One of the relevance criteria is physical resources, money, things like that, and I've met many people who were incongruent about money. Guess what?

Speaker 2:

I'm going to guess they had some issues, slash problems, slash frustrations, slash any number of other terms around money.

Speaker 3:

Sometimes they'd have a lot of money, sometimes they have no money at all. It would go up and down and sideways, but it was a consistent theme because the same brain waves, the same behavioral patterns, the same neurological patterns, the same degree of incongruence was present their whole life. So the first thing we want to be is congruent when it comes to our physical resources. If you are congruent in making money, it will show in your bank account. The second one is we want to be congruent in our choice of significant other. How many people have you heard say, oh, I really love my wife, while they shake their head or the women will go yeah, I've been with Harry 20 years and it's been wonderful. And they'll shake their head and the tone of voice will turn into a tone not associated with wonderfulness. Be congruent in your primary relationship.

Speaker 2:

Well, I really, I really, I really love.

Speaker 3:

Harry, what's amazing is, after Grinder and Bantler pointed out, that people who are in report tend to use the same posture, gestures, verbs, nouns, pronouns. And if you look at people who are not in report, it is astonishing the degree to which they will not match one another's external behavior. One will be sitting down, the other be standing up. One will be facing left, the other be facing right. They do not match. That is incongruence inside of the relationship. So the first thing is to get in rapport by mirroring and modeling back to people so that you're comfortable. And then you want to be congruent about your relationship, and it's a wonderful thing. And it is just as horrible to be in a relationship with someone where you're just not congruent and neither are they. I mean, it's just ghastly.

Speaker 2:

So we want to be congruent and it sounds like congruence. Referring back to this video I sent you, he talks about constructive interference, where if you're feeling happy and you're putting off those vibrations and then you enter into a communication with someone else who's happy, well then you can measure that the wave of happiness is bigger than it was just with you on your own.

Speaker 3:

So it reinforces it.

Speaker 3:

You can see it and I would say that a man will live approximately 12 years longer if he's married. I always I kind of took that as a very indicative, very indicative. If you have a good primary relationship, your lungs, large intestines, stomachs, lean heart, small intestine bladder, kidney, gallbladder, liver, all your internal organs, your adrenals, your endocrine system is going to operate at closer to the optimal human experience. It is not really. It's not.

Speaker 3:

If you look at you know anthropology, it's not a usual thing for people to be alone over long periods of their life. It's quite common in Western civilization but it is not. It's not the optimal human experience. The optimal human experience is to have someone with whom you're in rapport, you have common ground, you have common values, you use a lot of the same external behaviors and you have rapport and you have congruence in your relationship. It's much to be preferred, but a lot of people can't find it and a lot of people can't create it on their own. They don't know how to do it. Our job is to help people identify the optimal human experience and then engage in those behaviors, emotions, perceptions that are going to bring them to the state of happiness that I believe mankind. I believe that mankind really should experience much more happiness than anything else. Right, right, I think that's the natural state.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so there you talked about congruence with regard to your resources, with regard to your loving mate Going through the relevance criteria. What other areas of congruence must there be to experience?

Speaker 3:

about how? About allies? If you are congruent with your allies, then you're going to achieve a lot more. Our friend, andrew Tate, and his, his, his boys boy, are they in rapport about finances and money and honor and keeping your word, and it works for them. It works for them. So, congruencing your business relationships. I don't do business with people that I don't want to do business with and I don't want to do business with people if they're incongruent. But if they're congruent it's a pleasure, it's an absolute delight and everybody makes more money and your clients do better and it's just more productive. Overall, congruence in your business relationships is absolutely paramount.

Speaker 2:

Well, and not just business relationships, but friendships, extended family, I mean. There comes a point where people even blood relatives. It may make more sense to dissociate yourself if if they're not supportive and on the same page as you and my gosh. I've heard rumors that there are some families that where, like, people don't even get along and they're negative. Have you heard such a thing?

Speaker 3:

Can you imagine Now, I don't encourage people to stay in relationships that that are not productive for them. However, you know, having said that, I think it's important to try to get in rapport model back external behavior, tonality, voice values, criteria and over the long term, you can see where it's not working. Because you just don't have the same values Right and it's tough to be congruent in a situation where you're having values that are not important to you Be imposed on on on your value system. That just doesn't work very well.

Speaker 2:

Right, right. Well, you can't really get in rapport if, if, if you're that far apart.

Speaker 3:

Very, very difficult, very difficult.

Speaker 2:

So resources, mate, allies, status, status, self expression. Hold on, let's talk about status, because I Well, here's this example that comes to mind when I was in high school, this kid moved from Indiana down to Texas and he told everybody he was great at basketball. He was great at basketball and it was basketball season and he was coming out for the basketball team and he was great at basketball. He was going to show us how people play basketball down here in Texas, because in Indiana basketball is the thing, man, and so I'm going to show you guys how to play basketball. And he kind of had. He built for himself a high level of status right up to the point that he got out on the court and his speech and his level of pomposity was not backed up by his skill set, and he made it through half of one practice before he was like oh man, I'm really not that good. Oh dear, oh dear.

Speaker 3:

You know, I'll turn on some of these shows and the young men will ask the women what's important to you in a, in a suitor, and then they'll say, is confidence important? And the girls will go yeah, the confidence is important. Well, my question is is all right at the ripe old age of 22. What skill sets have you developed that you can say you should deservedly be confident? I mean, anybody can strut around and look like they're being confident. Okay, when you can be confident because you can actually do something, that to me is much to be preferred. But you know different story. So you're. You're a guy who had there, who played basketball. He was confident until he had to get out on the floor.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so he had to actually, you know, put up or shut up and what. He just kind of put his head down and walked back to the locker room.

Speaker 3:

You know, this thing about status is really very interesting. I believe that status is conferred in the prenatal period and I'll give you an example. I am Dr Joe Duruzzo, dr Joe's Vander Duruzzo, and when I go into a room, our mutual friend Dr Ross Stewart said to me one time boy, you know, when you walk into a room, it's really obvious that you know what the heck you're talking about. You know, when I walk into a room, it doesn't matter where it is, I always have a certain level of status. Why, where did that come from? Where did I feel that degree of status?

Speaker 3:

for the very first time, the very first time. The answer would never Donna knew in a million years. So I'll just give it to you. My father went off to fight in World War II. He joined the Navy, became a gunnery instructor and my little Italian grandmother thought he hung the moon. Then, when they defeated Hitler and Tojo and Mussolini and they came back, my grandmother thought he had hung not only the moon but the stars as well.

Speaker 2:

So and there's a lot of stars. That's a lot of work.

Speaker 3:

There's a lot of stars. When my mother was pregnant with me, my grandmother looked at me and she was so proud. And what did?

Speaker 2:

I get out of that. Wow, you got the status of someone who very much believes that he hung the moon and all the stars.

Speaker 3:

You know I didn't do a thing for it. You're a legend in your own mind. You've known me for 15, 20 years. What happens when I walk into the, into a room, in terms of status?

Speaker 2:

Well, people, you know they pay attention. I got, I got to admit, no matter, I mean, if I'm, even if I'm, like you know, blowing spitballs at you or you know don't matter doing a you know the old trip, the trip and fall is.

Speaker 3:

You know, it doesn't matter, you hung the moon, that's I walk into a room and I don't do anything except be me and I have a certain amount of status. When we eventually go to the group that meets and talks about prenatal psychology, I'll walk into the room and talk about prenatal re imprinting and the neurology behind it. What kind of status do you think I'm going to have there?

Speaker 2:

Well, probably just like you did in all those group sessions where it was remarkable, yeah so remarkable status.

Speaker 3:

One of these, one of these days, we're going to put together a program for people who would like to have more status and would like to have it just spontaneously be their experience Well and it's, that's the fascinating thing about your technology.

Speaker 2:

Just allow me to, you know, increase your status a little bit here, if nowhere, but in your own mind, the fact that, using your technology, one can install the same type of experience that you had with your grandmother, who imprinted on you before you were born. This, this impression in this feeling of, hey, I hung the moon, I hung. Well, wait, not just the moon, but the stars too. My gosh, I really have done something here.

Speaker 3:

When I walk into a room and I mean I'm not saying you know, I'm saying really everyone can have a significant increase in their status in a very good way in a way that favorably impacts other people, makes it easier to have relationships, makes you feel stronger as a human being, and it's genuine and sincere and comes from the paleocortical structures of the deep reptilian lower parts of the brain the amygdala, the lenticular, the lenticular nucleus, the hypothalamus, the brainstem. All of those.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and also from my experience with you and you entering rooms that sort of thing. It's not. There are some people that that have status at the expense of others. That's not the case with you. It's you, you have status in a room and it's, it's uplifting to the people that are there. It's, it's kind of weird, really, but it's, it's fascinating.

Speaker 3:

Well, big part of it is. I intend to make a contribution to their life, and it's the same feeling that my little Italian grandmother had when my father came home and he had won the war and he and his buddies in the Army, navy, air Force, marines had made a significant contribution to her life and the lives of everyone in America and the world and the world.

Speaker 2:

Okay, we're a little bit past halfway. I just want to mention real quickly that if you like what you're hearing or you want to learn more about Dr Joe and his programs and his, his teaching, we have a website, OptimalHumanExperiencecom. That's OptimalHumanExperiencecom. You can get on a mailing list and get a course through email. That's free. There's a bunch of videos. There's links to all the previous podcasts, OptimalHumanExperiencecom. Okay, so we've been through. We just finished. I don't know if we finished. Is there more about status and congruence? What do you want to move?

Speaker 3:

on. There's, there's more regarding prenatal re-imprinting and the relevance criteria, that's for sure.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so after status, what would be the next area to have the congruence?

Speaker 3:

You hit on something the installation of patterns. You've got your frontal orbital projection, you got your temporal lobes, you got your parietal lobes, but deep inside you've got all these really phylogenetically old, old, old structures, sometimes referred to as the reptilian brain. And that's really where you want to be operating when you put a person, when a person puts their head down and the axis between the external auditory meadus or earhole the earhole and your corner of your eye.

Speaker 3:

once that goes below the horizontal, then you get into programming the paleocortex and it works like a charm. And it works like a charm every time. It is one of the most powerful things that I've ever seen and, characteristically, a lot of different religions they will have people put their head down and pray.

Speaker 2:

Well, I hadn't really put that together after listening to you for 250 years. Yeah, yeah, that's you.

Speaker 3:

Bow your heads, let's bow your heads and give thanks and pray, and everybody universally feels better if they bow their head and give thanks. Very powerful tool. So when we talk about status and allies and freedom, self expression resources, loving mate, domicile, all of those relevance categories, you're going to want to install in the prenatal posture as much good feeling as you can have, and when you're not installing it, with your head down, you can have your eyes moving back and forth in the creativity technology. A mutual friend of ours, randy Kelton, told me yesterday that he was studying the video tapes of a genius whose IQ had been recorded as something over 200. Well, I've been told that anything after 150, the recording, the analysis, is really kind of meaningless. I mean, they're just extra, extra, extra smart.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and Randy said he watched this man who was not particularly happy, but he watched the man move his eyes left, right, left right, left right, left right, and as he moved down the visual field he said, dr Joe, it's exactly what you described in the creativity, whole brain, creativity technology. So the optimal human experience is having wonderful prenatal patterns and the optimal human experience also includes wonderful rapport skills, naturally occurring rapport skills, and it also includes the creativity technology, the use of your whole brain to make your life as much fun and enjoyment and productive and happy and satisfying as you can possibly make it. That's what we're all about. That's what the optimal human experience is designed to do.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and the creativity technology is also fascinating. I remember the first time you told me about it. To recount that, do you remember what you told me about? Because you put yourself in a situation and for I don't know how many days was it that you? What did you do? How did you develop this?

Speaker 3:

Well, there was a perfected there was a book called Tools for Dreamers by Robert Diltz and in it he talks about Leonardo da Vinci's creativity strategy and Albert Einstein visualized what it would be like to be on the sitting on the end of a beam of light as it went out into the universe and creativity and the creativity of Jesus of Nazareth. And he was operating at the level of strategies in NLP and I looked at it and I said what he says here is that there are certain strategies that turn on various parts of the brain and my conjecture was hey, what if we turn on the whole brain and not just parts of it? So I sat and I did a meditation in a dark room for three days and I call it the three days of darkness.

Speaker 3:

I just sat there and moved my head, my eyes left and right, left and right, left and right, left and right, left and right, and when I found that there were certain sticky spots and what I conjectured was that those were scotomas or areas of my brain where there was some something that not fluid, and I just practiced and practiced, and practiced until I could go down the entire visual field, moving my eyes from left and right, left and right, left and right. After that experience, after three days of darkness, working on my creativity, I was so creative I mean, it was brand new for me and I would ask people do you have any problems? Right, as my you know my clients, do you have any problems? And they say, oh yeah. I said, oh good, wonderful, they would give us something to work on.

Speaker 2:

Lay it on me.

Speaker 3:

So the three days of darkness, the whole brain, creativity technology, coupled with prenatal re-imprinting, coupled with all these wonderful, wonderful tools they're just. It gives you something truly remarkable, which you and I have identified as the optimal human experience.

Speaker 2:

And so with the creativity technology it wasn't a matter of just kind of randomly. Well, I guess it was. But when you say through the whole visual field, when you look up to the left and right, that is down a little bit left and right, left and right down and yeah.

Speaker 2:

And then down more, and each one of those is targeting a different part of the brain and how the brain thinks and what the brain thinks like up is visual and and looking down is feeling, looking, looking looking in the middle is sometimes referred to as telephone postures Did you ever see a person sit in front of you and put their hand next to their cheek, and that's a telephone posture, that's auditory access.

Speaker 3:

And then all the way down, mostly down to the right, that's kinesthetic or feeling. I have an interesting story about that. I had a fellow come in. He was suffering from depression and he was on anti depressants. Now, by definition, an anti-depressant is going to work on the part of the brain that feels depressed. Right, you think so. He walks in and sits down. I say what's what's going on for you? And he says I'm depressed. He looks right at me and doesn't move his eyes the up, down, left or right. I said what's it feel like to be depressed? And he said well, I think it feels awful. Well, he didn't really know because he wasn't accessing the downright visual field which is characteristic for a normally organized right handed individual. They will look down to the right if you talk to them about something that they have felt, a feeling or emotion, whatever. Did I ever tell you when I came to call that that down into the right for people who have what Dave Dobson called feelings out of awareness or kinesthesia out of awareness?

Speaker 2:

No, what did you call?

Speaker 3:

that in Saudi Arabia there's one part of the Saudi Arabian Peninsula that is deadly. It is hot, dry. If you go there, you're going, without question, you're going to die. What do they call it, I don't know. They call it the forbidden quarter. I would watch a person who had been so traumatized that they could not access feelings. They never looked down into the right and I would say, oh, they cannot go into the forbidden quarter.

Speaker 3:

Those feelings that are there are so horrible. So here's this guy and he says I say, how do you feel when you're depressed? He says, well, I think it's not good. And I said, well, what do your family and friends tell you? And they say, well, apparently that's not good either. And okay, I said, well, all right. So there we have an interesting confirmation. Here's a person taking drugs that stop his brain, the part that feels, and so he will not look down into the right Right.

Speaker 2:

Whoa.

Speaker 3:

I had a woman whose wife was utterly in shambles. Life was horrible and I looked at her. She never looked up into the right Guess what was wrong with her life. She couldn't plan, she could not see anything in the future.

Speaker 3:

She could not plan in the future. Well, I anchored for her the feeling of not being able to think about the future and I had her put herself in the prenatal position, took it back and I said what's going on? She said my mother hates my father and he's coming home from work for dinner and she doesn't want to even think about it. I said well, what did you get out of that? She said I don't want to think about the future. Wow.

Speaker 2:

Because, it's too horrible to even think about, so I'm just not going to think about it. Don't go there.

Speaker 3:

The thing about all of this material inside of the optimal human experience is it draws all of the things that you've wondered about and makes them make perfect sense I mean perfect logical sense over and, over and over again. And it's held my fascination and the fascination of many people. For you know, I started. I started in this area in 1995.

Speaker 2:

That's a while back. It's a while back.

Speaker 3:

So, to sum up and the end for today, we've got some wonderful tools. We hope you take advantage of them. We want to see you experience the optimal human experience and have love and happiness and prosperity and freedom and self empowerment, self respect, self esteem and all good things for you. And there you have it, ladies, and gentlemen, this is Dr Joe and Paul Andrew saying. We hope you enjoyed our presentation and we wish for you the optimal human experience.

Speaker 2:

That's it, and that's episode 13 of the optimal human experience podcast with Dr Joseph Deruzo. I'm Paul, andrew, and we'll see you next time.

Speaker 1:

This has been the optimal human experience podcast with Dr Joseph Deruzo. For the latest videos and courses, visit OptimalHumanExperiencecom. Join us next time for the optimal human experience podcast with Dr Joseph Deruzo.

Speaker 4:

How many of you believe in the universal law of attraction? Because if you don't, you're about to. Because for 22 years I never believed in any of that spiritual mumbo jumbo, until one day I found a law in the physical universe. It's called constructive interference, and it says that when two wavelengths of equal length meet, the size of the frequency doubles. What this means is that you can get energy from conversation, you can get energy from the people around you, or they can take energy away from you. And so I started to go down this spiritual radical and I found a research project called the Spain Scale of Emotion. Spa and E Researchers were able to take 25,000 subjects and put them in a room, and they were able to measure the frequency leaving the human body. And do you know what? The most powerful frequency to leave the human body is? The frequency of authenticity. Authenticity is 4,000 times more powerful than love. Do you know when authenticity happens? When your words are truthful and you believe what you're saying?

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