Most Notorious Podcast TBH Chapter Buzz & NFL Draft Pittsburgh Talk

Summary

In this conversation, the hosts discuss the dynamics of the NFL offseason, focusing on coaching changes, quarterback decisions, and draft strategies. They emphasize the importance of building a strong team culture and the need for patience from fans as new coaches and players are integrated into the team. The discussion also covers potential trade scenarios and the significance of evaluating coaching candidates and players effectively. In this engaging conversation, the speakers delve into the potential trade for Joe Burrow, discussing the implications for the Raiders and the team's future. They explore drafting strategies, emphasizing the importance of building a strong foundation for the team. The discussion also highlights upcoming events, including the NFL Draft and community engagement initiatives. Additionally, the speakers reflect on fan culture, questioning what it truly means to be a fan in today's sports landscape. The conversation wraps up with thoughts on future plans and reflections on the season ahead.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Show Dynamics
02:58 NFL Offseason and Team Dynamics
06:03 Coaching Changes and Team Culture
08:54 Coaching Candidates and Fan Expectations
11:56 Quarterback Discussions and Team Strategy
14:55 Draft Strategies and Player Evaluations
18:02 Trade Scenarios and Future Prospects
20:53 Final Thoughts on Coaching and Team Direction
01:06:08 Trading for Joe Burrow: A Game Changer?
01:12:18 Drafting Strategies: Building the Future
01:16:02 Upcoming Events: Draft and Community Engagement
01:24:59 Fan Culture: The True Meaning of Fandom
01:54:41 Wrap-Up: Reflections and Future Plans

Transcript

Speaker 2 (00:00.205)
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Speaker 4 (00:07.926)
Welcome to the show!

Speaker 4 (01:24.91)
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Speaker 1 (02:41.607)
Hey!

What is up man? I forgot about that song That's what we were trying to get out. Yeah, okay. Okay, but but There's not a picture of me in the video now. What the fuck?

Talkin' about this, there's be a floor in there, you!

don't know, maybe I looked down at that time. gotta rewatch it. saw like 20 of Jeff's Hollywood.

Crosby, you looking right at the camera. could see you looking at the screen.

Speaker 3 (03:06.798)
I saw like 20, 20 of fucking Hollywood over there.

Speaker 3 (03:13.838)
With the tank top

Yeah, that was after the games the Patriots game that was the victory party afterwards

The one game you saw us win, right? I saw us win two. I saw us win two. Hello, I know James, we see you. We see you. We'll let you in right now.

Yeah.

Speaker 4 (03:36.45)
No

Hahaha!

You're late.

Right. just listening, man. See, I'm glad you played that song because we need some better shit than fucking ABBA. Yeah, that is like, yeah.

I guess we can say new year because we're already in the offseason. The Raiders are already in the offseason.

Speaker 3 (03:58.99)
The new NFL season hasn't started yet.

But

Speaker 4 (04:03.532)
Yeah, correct. So I'll be like for us we're already on and looking on to next year.

Speaker 3 (04:12.238)
Accelerated said Leo you think Raider love we want over with my lines a bro future shot Shoot your shot, bro. If you're one for 20 that ones all that matters, dog

the

Just beat Dennis Rodman grab all the rebounds, bro

Be be be meta world peace, dog. You just got to hit that one three and the Clash. That's all you got to do. that's funny, man. That's funny. That's funny. That's Hey, but shout out. Shout out to everyone joining us today. I was able to make it here on time today.

good defense.

Speaker 3 (04:53.486)
I was,

the

Notice that in the comments, bro, a lot of people calling you skipper now, huh?

Yeah. Well, actually, Robert Penny has been calling me that for a long time. Yeah. I don't know if that means I look like Skipper from Gilligan's Island.

Yeah. Speaking of that, I mean, like.

Speaker 3 (05:18.642)
I saw it. I was like, I do see it. It just needs a little sailor hat. Damn is

Speaker 4 (05:27.15)
Just need the little sailor hat. He's ready to go.

Right, right, right, right. It's okay, man. It's okay. It's all right. I gotta show you guys the the animation. Raider mation Ron drew he made a cheeto lioness cartoon character I gotta show y'all And he drew it chip tooth and all just to let you know

shit.

Show us,

Speaker 4 (05:49.346)
Let me see the chip. I want to see the chip tooth first.

So, yeah, we'll show that later, but we can bring, I think we can bring James back in now once you get done with the chat.

See, Afakas even saw it. There was a bunch in there, you see?

I know, I just like giving you shit. You know that.

This is an ad.

Speaker 3 (06:11.31)
Yeah

Speaker 2 (06:21.473)
I hate you.

You got a show tomorrow night, Yeah, maybe just maybe I'll crash your show tomorrow night. Right now. Yeah, but they're on they go on two hours before we start.

Sure.

Speaker 3 (06:37.259)
I'll go crash the cage match tomorrow night with my belt. I will bring James in.

There he is! What is up?

Holy cow look at that comment John Raider

Already know He already said that that's why It's cuz I don't want my job jobs 100 % sold on that Kubiak wants to come here We are the most attractive job in the NFL apparently, you know Right, that's what I'm saying

Speaker 4 (07:13.838)
I've been.

I don't know, Tom was the last guy I want. Especially now that I know what I know about him.

Would want fucking Tom, but we don't deserve a coach like Tom, you know, what do we do? know, what do we know about stability in a fucking organization? What do we know about 19 straight winning fucking seasons, right? What do we know about that? What do we know about making the best out of what's giving to you, right? What do we know about creating culture, you know? I got Justin Fields and He had him playing so well that the Jets gave him a fucking

What a-

Speaker 4 (07:33.815)
Thank

Speaker 3 (07:49.058)
Just in fucking fields

What do we know about that, right?

Yeah, but what are you willing to give up for him? That's the problem.

I'm just saying we don't deserve it period period look Mike Tom and you give my you give the seals wherever the fucking You don't give them a first-round pig, you know, you don't do any of that no Survived his seasons with Mitch Trubisky. He survived his seasons with Mason Rudolph. I mean do we

We've seen so many back-up products come into these fucking games that my countless quotes means they didn't work. Why not? Bro, I didn't argue with you about bringing Tomlin. What I'm telling you, you don't give him whatever he wants. You said give them whatever they want. Stupid. You're gonna give him?

Speaker 4 (08:34.414)
Look at the team zone. Look at

Speaker 4 (08:46.414)
That's exactly what you said.

You don't give them the first-

Give them Max Crosby. They want to give him that. That's why you're sitting here next to us on your fucking couch on a phone. Not even on a computer. That's why. I know. No, no. Max Crosby for Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin might be the one coach for all my fucking ain't no condo stands out there. They could fucking win with a no condo. Oh, you call it a no condo stands. You're there.

No.

Speaker 2 (09:16.578)
Did you-

He wants to call people stands and he's over here jerking off at the motion about bring our back my god

Well, first of all, James, you're muted for a second. So just to, just to catch everybody up on the last two shows. All right. So within the last two weeks, he's wanted pretty much every coach that was either fired or was available. Okay. He's wanted to recycle coaches. He's never stuck to one particular decision. Okay.

And he pieces them together like they all

Speaker 3 (09:57.902)
Give me Mike McDaniel as coach with day ball as the offensive coordinator. Yeah, stop.

He's playing the match game. Okay. Um, and even some of the moves he suggested. So James, you've been way off base. So I'm going to unmute you again. We're going to try this again.

He said, we're going to try this again. We could go round two.

I told you Christian Wilkins was gonna be on the team if I've been way out base how come I was the only person I told you Gino Smith was gonna be your quarterback this And that was a good thing you that Tyler Lockett was gonna be your wide receiver one because it was obvious bonehead It was obvious. He was gonna be your wide receiver. You are you are you are You are you are you you are off base? Okay, you predicted shit. That was obvious, bro

What?

Speaker 4 (10:51.896)
Hey, hold on. It was all time.

You know what else you predicted you said you Kobe Myers wasn't worth the contract and what did you Kobe Myers go do asshole? Lost in the first round, but he made it right in there, right? Yeah, okay. So then what did your boy Gino do?

What? Hold on

Speaker 4 (11:13.358)
Okay, Chiro, get him, Chiro.

Season for us. So look off base one fucking game, my god, and what did he do the following week when you said he was gonna do it again? did shut up exactly And what did he do

What do you do?

He went for 250, but no, he fucking did it. So he threw interceptions and we lost stop. He's still through for 250. You're that guy that loves to think when he's right, but fucking refuses all the times he was fucking wrong. So stop. Well, I was wrong about the draft. We got genteel. Right. Stop.

Speaker 3 (11:56.398)
Okay, LeBron, okay LeBron! That's I'm gonna call you. You're LeBron now. You only want to point out the shit you do good, but not the other shit. You make it seem like you're the one who started it or something. You go watch Mitchell Rinse and you bring that shit over here. Like you're starting it.

Kids don't get drugged

Speaker 3 (12:21.954)
He makes it seem like he's the one who started the Max Crosby trade room.

So first of all, James, you should be ashamed of calling Tyler Lockett a number one receiver. You said he's a number one receiver. I don't give a f... Hey, look. We had 67 yards, James. No number one...

our team he's the one as it stands we had games

I... RECEIVER?

has 67 yards or less in the game. Number one receiver.

Speaker 3 (12:59.278)
I remember that one. He said Jack George I will clarify this I told you he was the wide receiver one on our team I did not tell you he was the wide receiver one if he was on a different team I told you what I mean this team as it stands He's the wide receiver one and that proved to become the fruition. No shit. It was obvious wide receiver

James, do you have amnesia?

He only remembers what he wants to,

Yeah, he only remembers what he's got selective remembering.

That's what I'm telling you.

Speaker 4 (13:36.238)
Uhhh... I'm gonna pack a money. You know what?

Hmm

You're a subsistah.

Cooper knew what the heck was going on bro. He smelled was going on in that kitchen and he

the couple weeks ago, right? stuck to the ideas of Kingsbury and fucking, which one called John Harbaugh and tell the news of Mike Tommy came out, which barely came out today. So obviously when Mike

Speaker 2 (14:04.674)
the

Speaker 1 (14:19.49)
And now you

Before Harbaugh, it Cliff's Kingsbury.

I'm what never came out of your mouth until today

Hey, can I just put it like this? James, I love you to death, bro, but both these guys are going to come in. They need a GM. They need a strong team around them. Yes, we can talk about how Tomlin had a playoff team. We can talk about how Harbog had a playoff team, but those rosters were totally different than this team. This team is in complete shambles.

Cause he wasn't an option.

Speaker 2 (14:52.75)
What's up Israel?

What up, biz?

There's no culture. There's no nothing like that. And you keep going back to saying, Hey, we need to bring in the first coach that comes out. That's the hottest name. But I'm you right now, if Mike LaFleur gets cut from or gets booted from the Packers or Matt LaFleur, you're going to tell us that Matt LaFleur is the next guy that should be that red. red. Be come to have some conviction, bro. If you want our book.

pound the table for Harbog and tell me till you're blue in the face, but have some conviction with the guys that you're picking. It can't be the next guy that comes out.

Because what you're doing James is

Speaker 3 (15:36.696)
the

You know what they call a typical flip flop. One week you're this week, next week you're this way.

How are you not gonna wait more options as more options come out that doesn't you are and that's what the team is doing and that's fine But you love to come up here and pound shit week after week like you're the one who said it

I've said plenty of shit. Exactly. A lot of shit. You don't remember certain shit. That's the problem. What's the shit I don't remember? A lot of stuff. Read the comments. Afakasi just told you. Yeah. Afakasi just told you shit you

Yeah

Speaker 4 (16:17.42)
That would have been

Speaker 3 (16:24.256)
I remember that Jack Jones at nickel. remember that shit. my God. I remember when he said that bullshit. Yeah.

We could have.

No

mother

The fucker who can tackle, you're gonna put him at nickel.

Speaker 2 (16:39.51)
So sticking with this James had code search will move on so we all know who's been invited for interviews Obviously some we can't touch now until the playoffs are over and such Can't have face-to-face with certain ones because they're still in the playoffs so we're until

Until I think the players rova we're not gonna know who the head coach is. So we are gonna possibly miss out on some guys to be honest Well, because you some teams are gonna make a move on someone else so that's fine with me though because if it's some of the ones that we're seriously not looking at or we're not in favor of That even works out to our benefit because now that just scratches the list down a little bit. So

This out

Speaker 3 (17:27.63)
Who? What do mean?

Well, could be anybody that's available right now that's already been eliminated from the playoffs. Anybody from any of these 14 or 16 teams that just lost this weekend?

That's way you made it sound like who would we be missing out on?

I don't know that we don't want. don't, don't know that. don't have the list in front of me right now, but it's going to get dwindled down each week at this point. You know, like you've got four games this weekend. So there's going to be four teams that are going to be on the outs that are going to have possible coaches that are going to be available. You you're talking Buffalo could get knocked out. Denver could get knocked out.

Yeah.

Speaker 2 (18:06.54)
Patriots would be nice Seattle could get knocked out and then now we can actually get a face-to-face will be active

Who be acts the hot name right now?

Yeah, it's gonna be the hottest name, but I mean like so my question is like I put it in the chat earlier, right? I really feel like Raider Nation thinks that this job is so big and valuable and it's big and shiny and beautiful, right? we got the first round draft pick. yeah, we got a lot of money and free agency. Well, I really think this is. Or second most, think really honestly, this is like the fourth or fifth best job in the NFL at the moment.

second most

For

Speaker 3 (18:44.688)
I think would drop after the Steelers job opened up.

Well, okay, now that the Steelers job opened up your right, sixth or seventh or fifth or sixth best job in the NFL when you're looking at it, right?

Well, you're saying this was moved ahead of us, you think?

As far as like going to an organization that runs shit. Well, I think that's appealing to one a young coach at that Right because at that point you're like this team doesn't flip-flop coaches They're not gonna like one three games in right ahead You know what I mean? like even if they do they're not gonna just let me go cuz steeler fans have been asking for Tom that's had for years for years And even to that point they didn't fire him he resigned which is why you would have to trade for him

True.

Speaker 3 (19:30.328)
But at the same time, like as a young coach, to me that would be more appealing.

Yes, I agree with you.

an organization they're more stable.

They may be more stable, but they're devoid of talent to be honest with you. I we are

We're at talent. We're good at talent too.

Speaker 4 (19:48.654)
They just made the playoffs.

I know we are, I'm not saying we're not.

What makes it a better spot than us?

I'm

Speaker 2 (19:58.264)
Say that again.

What makes them, what makes us a better spot than Pittsburgh? What makes us the Raiders? A better landing spot than Pittsburgh.

I mean, yeah, they got TJ. Yeah, but what do they have on offense?

No, They have stability. have tradition there. They have things that are untangible.

We have an offense. They are.

Speaker 2 (20:18.786)
the

I they're not gonna do that, I mean there's no-

They've never done that.

They've never done that They've they've altered their roster They still would been as long as he could and then even with Ben they brought in rust they brought in fields You know, they saw people like Pickens and Brown as trouble and sent them on their merry fucking way Yeah, that's the thing that chips me when people tell me like people would want to come to Vegas instead of Pittsburgh like why

Exactly.

Speaker 2 (20:53.952)
I, if anything, it's just, it's right now it's going to be that number one pick. I'm telling you. Yeah. was max, if he's still here in Gentie, other than that, we ain't got nothing tax free.

We have more than that as Raiders

the

the

Baltimore way better than anything spot, bro

Speaker 4 (21:24.302)
Stable GM.

Other than Atlanta's Atlanta's cap issues, I would say Atlanta is a good landing spot.

Yeah, you got young wide receivers. got B John is B John was one of the best runner backs in the league. You Penex defense isn't that bad. No, you know, you got a brand new facility there. So I mean, that's not a bad

You got PENIX as your quarterback.

Speaker 3 (21:47.671)
You and then you've seen teams that are like negative in the cap space and then when the shit comes up all of a sudden It's it's clear. All right. Well, people know how to work

the

.

These guys draft well. I see you use them drafts well. He's not worried about

This one's not there anymore.

Speaker 2 (22:18.262)
not new some has been there for a few years now

Well that whole... The Ravens whole organization has drafted well ever since. Ozzy Newsom's been there.

yeah, that's the other issue.

And that's the thing, like we talked about it. We said the biggest difference is organization wise Baltimore and the Steelers are both far superior landing spots than the Raiders. Hands down.

there's there's Atlanta Miami Atlanta New York to me New York is yeah.

Speaker 4 (22:51.575)
Bye bye.

Speaker 4 (22:55.214)
I think that's a shoe in for Harbog.

He hasn't been the GM since 2018, but he is still.

You're still there though.

He's an advisor.

He's an executive vice president slash player personnel. But he's not the actual GM when he was a GM, he was damn good as a GM. There's no two ways about it.

Speaker 3 (23:09.251)
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:15.118)
So Ozzy still has input on the fucking player? He does.

He's not the overall GM anymore. has the world.

in the world. Yeah.

It's not that's why I did there in it because they're have a later first round pick because they made it to the playoffs. Aaron Rodgers still hasn't decided he's not going to decide for a while he's going to hold them hostage again.

He's done.

Speaker 3 (23:41.686)
I don't think you can hold a franchise like the Steelers franchise like this thing, you know, they can be like, you know what, bro? If you don't want to decide, let us know now. If not, boom.

Honestly, this is what I'm gonna gone. Yeah, good with Tomlin as soon as they said Tomlin you're fired That's letting me know Aaron Rodgers. See you later

Billy, I'm your

Speaker 2 (24:02.427)
We got Trippie Soil, he's a Steelers fan in here. Do you want Aaron Rodgers back? Probably not.

Speaker 2 (24:12.814)
Who's your ultimate number one as you as you as your head coach must start with you well

If everything panned out perfectly right which I don't think it will and Jesus now I Would like to see I'd like to go young with Kubiak I'd like to see Kubiak get his opportunity like I was you know talking with James before on the other show Hey, man, if you look at it

Kubeck is a young offensive coordinator. mean, like we could be having the next hard bog for the next 18 years. This is him getting a shot. Every coach needs a shot. And we need to like get with the times and give another coach an opportunity. We've tried everything else. We've had Gruden that was like a retread. We tried Josh McDaniels, another retread head coach. We tried AP and inexperienced head coach and play caller. We've tried.

Bringing in Pete Carroll with all his championship mentality stuff. Why not bring a young offensive coordinator that has made play calls on his side of the ball, has managed that time, and is young and ingenuitive, and then he can grow with the quarterback? That's my reasoning behind Kubia.

you

Speaker 1 (25:39.148)
See ya.

And Leo, who you looking at?

I think my problem with the retread thing is you can't compare someone like hardball To McDaniel's or even Carol. I put them way above those guys Because he was there so long so stable That it's different, you know, you gave McDaniel's another chance. Yes, right Carol same thing Seattle moved on for him for a reason we saw why you know

What's going on over there in Baltimore? They have their own little issues, whatever, but that's why I can't, I can't see hardball as a Richard when it comes to that. But I am open to that. It is time to go young. Um, the kid from, from Denver, you know, he really, really, really entices me a lot him. QB coach. really, really interest me a lot as well as a homeboy from, um, from the Rams. You know, he's another one that I would like. And then one that we.

Have you been-

Speaker 3 (26:42.092)
just became free, you know, thanks to Houston. And I think he's really good, but I think he might go to Baltimore is a mentor. I think Minster would be a really, really good head coach. And if you could pair him up with a good offensive coordinator, when it comes to that, then that will probably work. I think Kubiak to us is a dream. Like last year with Ben Johnson. I think there's just too many things out there. We all want to believe, know, Brady's here. Brady's going to bring them.

Everyone thought the same thing with with Ben Johnson last year the guy who predicted four years in a row He says he's coming. He's the same one who said Ben Johnson was gonna come here and he did it, right? I think even chef had said Ben Johnson was about to sign with those right and the next thing, know Was breaking news. He signed with the Bears. I wouldn't mind Kubiak though He's one of the young the young minds as well. But I think with Kubiak You guys know his family. I'm sure his family's gonna influence him on this

I did. I don't wanna

And I don't see them saying, yeah, you should definitely go to the Raiders. You know what I mean? There's a lot of shit going on. You know? huh. But for the most part, would say if I can't look the floor or maybe even mentor. Yeah. See how that works. I was shocked that hardball reached out and he wants to come check out what we're doing. You know?

or...

Speaker 4 (28:06.156)
That's crazy. can I say this? So do you guys think this is also a Matt Stafford situation where you how Matt Stafford leveraged the Raiders to get more money out of the Rams?

he used this as like bait,

yeah so i'll be like you could be

possible you know

Yeah,

Speaker 4 (28:23.618)
Yeah, because you're talking to all the teams and then you go like, you know, hey, they're offering me a little bit more over there in Oakland. I know it's a big build. Oakland is my best. My bad, bro.

Yeah.

and get the no one retread like yeah McDaniel's that's a retread I don't and Harbaugh and Tomlin they're not considered retreads because they've been both recently successful in their in

You know, like a Mike McDaniels would be a retread basically. Not not because he's not going to get head coach job this year. Mike McDaniels. He's going to have go back to being in Europe again for a couple of years.

Yeah, somebody's gonna take

Speaker 3 (29:10.638)
When you look at what happened with McDaniels, Miami ran that shit so bad. Like how many years were they over the cap that they couldn't keep their players? And that's not McDaniels' fault, you know? Yeah.

I don't think he's going to get a head coaching job out of all these vacancies.

to

You know

You know where the best spot for him and I only say this because I like him I really like him is to go to Detroit and meet their offensive coordinator go help

Speaker 4 (29:49.134)
down with that type of like aggressiveness. That means they're gonna unleash this guy. They just take the chains off of them. You got four downs. Basically got four downs.

As much as I would like to see McDaniel here, like do something cool with a new quarterback, right? With Bowers, with Gentie, with Mayer, you know, with go get a wide receiver because you know, Jack Besh ain't it. Go get something like to see what he could do. I would love it. But I just don't see it happening. If that makes sense. I mean, it's not realistic.

It's too big of a job for him. Yeah, I think it's too big of a job. This job, this is why I keep saying the rate is huge, bro. This isn't just that you're going to go grab a quarterback and a couple of pieces. You have to change the culture. You have to change the whole organization's way of thinking from the inside out. This is a big task. And I mean, like we said, if you look at Baltimore,

Thank

Speaker 4 (30:49.324)
Hey, that's an easier job, man. I mean, like they got that. If you look at the Steelers job, they got that.

Steelers don't have a quarterback if they can lock one in yeah

And that's the big I think that's the biggest deficiency in Pittsburgh is is there is there a quarterback situation. Right. mean, the option is Rudolph and that's who played that's who came out and played the tail end of that game last night. I forgot he was even still there until he came out on the.

They can always drink

Speaker 3 (31:14.648)
Let's send them Aiden O'Connell since you know we all tend to believe

I sent him genome, yeah!

I'm dead.

You your backup I'd rather have a OC 12 is our backup than Gino. I don't want Gino anyone near this

Yeah, no, I think the Gino thing is gone now that his daddy's gone. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (31:33.603)
I think he just gets released. He's a post-Jubilee.

or eventually he asks for it.

Thanks. Who's your guy?

Thank

I was going to ask James what what his who in all seriousness without being you know, no no freaking. This is no Stephen A. I don't want to see 50 million options. Just pick one guy you think would be the best fit for this team.

Speaker 3 (32:02.968)
Tomlin. It's not an option, bro.

And why?

Yeah, he's not.

Speaker 3 (32:14.03)
He said Tom and he said Tom

Okay, he said Tom. Hey, wait, hold on. hey, Tom and Wyatt. What would you be willing to give up for? He just said.

What would you be-

Speaker 4 (32:28.546)
No, no, no.

I wanna give it whatever the fuck

So you're willing to give up the first round draft pick.

Yes. Go ahead, chat.

That's all I needed to know. I mean, I know it. feel like kids working. I don't need to go off the gadget. You said you'd give up the number one draft pick for a head coach. I just got let go by their teeth.

Speaker 3 (32:50.178)
Yep. For a coach that hasn't lost in fucking.

What? When?

He lost on Monday.

Yeah, yesterday. He lost last night.

I get what you're saying, the guy that has a winning tradition, but again with one organization that has a ton of stability that he came in with, that he hasn't worked with any other organization outside of

Speaker 2 (33:15.342)
Rebuild any other-

Speaker 3 (33:20.73)
We've only had three coaches in my lifetime bro. That fucking shit of having Russell Wilson and Justin Fields split the season was fucking immaculate. But it worked out for them. Exactly. But that was a coaching decision. They were tomming me. And it was fucking He literally won with both.

But here's the thing look at the culture look at the tradition look at the organizations Okay, our organization is nowhere near What Baltimore and what the Steelers are right now? Okay

That was building that culture. Do you think that culture just came overnight?

them.

Speaker 4 (33:59.566)
and the Steelers is already there.

and

Milk hour was there and then

the

Maybe too young to know this, but Pittsburgh's culture has been the same.

Speaker 2 (34:18.817)
Pittsburgh's called a day one basically. Yeah. Okay.

change

Speaker 4 (34:24.343)
So yes James

of the

And you want to talk about the Ravens? Ravens culture has been there forever as well, ever since they went to Baltimore.

I hear it. say like Cleveland. 19 seasons doesn't lie. OK, the team's definitely going to.

You want to give up your first round pick that everybody's been so clamoring over. You want to give up the first round pick for a coach and now you don't pick again until number 36 in the draft. And everybody wants that starting quarterback, that franchise. even say you to up that. You want to give up that for a head coach.

Speaker 3 (34:43.201)
Jesus.

Speaker 3 (34:57.035)
I do

Speaker 2 (35:08.288)
Once before, I wanted that dupe.

the the

Speaker 2 (35:18.092)
enough stupid

what again what I would be stupid while you're sitting here and not

together.

Fucking draft pick we did. Drafted fucking Gentie at number six without an offensive line. What's the fucking difference?

That's a big difference.

Speaker 4 (35:34.03)
I'm gonna give you I'm gonna give you

He wasn't stupid in our offensive line. saw how.

We can address, we can still address the head coach position without giving up our number one draft.

Yeah, we've got a stupid things like draft Marcus Russell. What are you talking about? Stupid.

Wait, you're the one that told us wait, hey, you're the one that told us that we can't have PTSD that we need to drop Mendoza

Speaker 3 (35:56.898)
See how he doesn't remember shit he says?

Because Marcus Russell was in the past!

I remember seeing I remember saying we need to draft Mendoza, but just like everything else, the coaching landscape and everything else changes in the league every fucking day.

I agree with you, but you can't say.

i can't change my opinion based on- can we move on? he just wants to trade everything and everybody for tomlins

Speaker 4 (36:21.676)
Okay. So Tom, I got you. Okay.

Speaker 1 (36:28.482)
Hmm

So that.

Speaker 3 (36:37.549)
Metal floor.

Speaker 3 (36:48.386)
Although I did say Webb really, really, really interests me though, bro. The fact that Webb is out there and he's so young, right? Like we, this could be like the way we got that next young guy, the way the Rams got their fucking coach right now. Even when Al, Al picked Gruden before anybody fucking thought of Gruden, you cause he was so fucking young. Like I think this kid could be that for us if he was to work out.

Charles, we would have to give up a draft pick or we would have to trade for Tomlin because he resigned. He didn't get fired. So which means Pittsburgh still has his rights for the 2026 season. And I think there was an option for the 27 season was the rest of his contract. So if we were to want to hire him, we would have to work out some sort of. Deparations to Pittsburgh in order to acquire his rights, sort of how Denver had to do with.

the Saints when they took Sean Payton on because he was still on the contract. If they had fired him, there'd be no questions asked. We could just interview him and move on and hire him if we wanted to. But he's still under rights with Pittsburgh, so we would have to we would have to give them something for it. And you know, they're to want a first round pick because Tomlin's a name that just garners that respect and that that that exchange in value, to be honest with you.

Cause you offer them anything less than the first, especially the number one overall, they'll laugh at you. They're not going to take it. You know? So that's why we would have to give up a draft pick for Tom one. It sucks, but.

Nobody's a fan of Stefanski

Speaker 4 (38:26.08)
No.

Speaker 2 (38:33.754)
and I have is that I can't settle on a quarterback. How many? Seriously, and not just any old quarterbacks. He's had he's had first rounders multiple times. He's traded acute. had a huge trade to bring into Sean Watson. And that's been a disaster blew up in their face. You know, there's just been so much with that organization. That organization is just shit.

Yeah

Speaker 2 (38:57.408)
And how Miles Garrett even wanted to stay there is beyond me. I don't get it. But well, I'm sure that someone else would have thrown a bag at him to bring truck, you know, if you really want it out of. But that's why I don't believe it.

Have a state tax, Ohio.

I don't know. I do. Yeah. Also, I die. Who knows? It's a dumb, you know, but I don't ask Chris from a protected house. He lives there or he lives in that area. You know, so that's why I'm a little sound on Stefanski. I know he's a good coach, but. Couldn't get it right with that, and they had the number one pick. How many years now? How many have they picked in the top five in the last X amount?

Peace.

I was gonna ask Chris

Speaker 3 (39:42.25)
There was a year they had two number one picks and they took Richard and and

Speaker 2 (39:54.626)
Yeah, the perennial bottom of the barrel every year. just have this.

No, no, no, they really are I don't know why but right now when I say Cleveland I could imagine Mike McDaniel there maybe

Cleveland?

No, because here's the thing, bro, you need to draft well. And the reason I don't like stepanski is because I really do feel, bro, like he didn't set up to do our standards or success at the end. And yeah, and it's okay that you don't want a player, but you don't set up the player for failure. So the team can fail. You see what I mean? I'm like, even if you make him look good,

I don't he wanted it. He didn't want it.

Speaker 2 (40:36.814)
Big lucky mixed up dude

And the kid looks great if you don't like him.

Speaker 3 (41:08.098)
Trust me, I know, because if you get a Ray Lewis rookie card, it is not with the Baltimore Ravens. no, no, but I can see.

No, it's Cleveland Browns.

Speaker 2 (41:19.936)
the

Yeah.

There you go.

So I guess, mean, except for James, we're kind of on the same page. I mean, we want an offensive minded head coach, young coach. and just reading the chat, I mean, there's some other names out there. I've seen Harbaugh's been one nobody's really, yeah. I there's out there. I see that name come up.

Who was the name that popped

Speaker 4 (41:51.298)
Byron Lefwich. What do you guys think about that name?

Leftwich I think could be an option to give him the shot at offensive coordinator because he was cooking he was doing some shit in Tampa and then I don't know what happened like I don't know where he just Like I don't know what happened. Like I really went after Tom. It was like what happened And then like I was like what happened to left which I think I'll talk to Chris about this too Cuz I mean Chris are talking about left which maybe he does come back over here with Tom and with

Bytec over here, but as head coach no, I don't think he's ready for a for head coach. Yeah

you're saying.

Thank

Speaker 3 (42:36.527)
man, these Mexico fucking, know, companies are fucking dope.

I mean, I think Kubiak is definitely probably the number one, to be honest with you out there.

I think his everyone's number one

Exactly,

I want to, want to post a point. mad about Kubiak, right? Right. 60 seconds. Will went ahead and said something about the Raiders not having PTSD. How do you know that us Raider fans that do want the Raider fans that do want Kubiak are not looking at Kubiak like he's the shiny trophy in the fucking trophy case thinking he's going to be the next coming of fucking Ben Johnson. How do you not know that? Because last time I checked, we haven't seen Kubiak develop a motherfucking thing. Sam Donald.

Speaker 3 (43:19.468)
His career was not revived under Kubiak, okay? Is Kevin O'Connell playing complimentary football? Is he playing great football? Yes, but he is not playing great football because Kubiak fixed his career. Kevin O'Connell fixed his damn career in Minnesota.

So let's.

Let's get that straight when the biggest, one of the biggest problems we have right now is at the quarterback position. Hey straight, I'm going to throw you a curve ball here. Who calls Seattle's Who calls Seattle's plays?

Yeah, Kubiak calls the players. What kind of offense do run?

West Coast.

Speaker 3 (43:59.912)
Are they do they air out the ball with darlin?

Timing offense. Thank you. Go ahead. Okay.

Have you never seen them play or should I ask will?

Hey, hey, hey.

You don't know I get it you don't I'm talk shit about a coach that you don't even know what kind of offense he runs or what they do No, I'm telling you You're thinking that it's coming here The way he calls a Game that's not why that's in your little mind what you think because that's what you hear

Speaker 4 (44:14.827)
Offense. It's.

Speaker 4 (44:23.138)
Hey, now hold on!

Speaker 4 (44:32.92)
the

Speaker 3 (44:38.946)
What do mean? want an offensive minded coach to run a prolific offense.

Speaker 3 (44:49.715)
I'm stuck in your mind that he's developing quarterbacks. You can't

What effects did Ben Johnson have guys he had Matthew Stafford and who Jared got?

Tell you what, James, go do your homework. Watch the last 49er game. Watch last 49er game. See what Seattle did. How Seattle beat them. One game, Controlled offense.

to number one pick

Speaker 2 (45:07.501)
right

Speaker 4 (45:11.362)
How are we gonna win a right game? We don't have an offensive line.

That was in your argument earlier though, your argument earlier.

Point is James if you're talk about a coach know what the fuck he does first Before you're all stop over here. Well, what is he done? What is he developed?

What has he developed?

Speaker 2 (45:35.552)
So you

It's coming up in Johnson basically.

I didn't say that that's what you said

The same thing they say about Ben Jones?

Who spread it? No one else spread his name!

Speaker 4 (45:47.052)
Wait, you said that. He got his career fixed before he got there.

All right.

And who keeps it going the offense that's being ran in Seattle

Yeah. Yeah. Hey, here's the thing. no, you don't know.

You don't even watch the Seattle game, so don't know.

Speaker 3 (46:07.918)
That's what I thought.

West Coast offense.

the

Give it to him. Where's the thing?

I got it.

Speaker 4 (46:22.859)
Raaaa-

Speaker 3 (46:27.352)
Right?

Thank you, my guy.

Jai even throw you in some more knowledge for you for free so you don't have to do your homework. He coached Arnold in the Vikings as offensive coordinator under Kevin O'Connell. Would you look at that?

Or is it? There it is.

Yes.

Speaker 3 (46:51.822)
All right. No, I'll tell you about this one right here. Look, look, look, look, you know, Clint Kubiak coaches Sam Darnold in the Vikings. He was the offensive coordinator there.

I don't know.

Speaker 3 (47:03.03)
Hmm. So was in Minnesota. shit. Yeah, do your fucking homework, bro.

He's doing it.

Don't come up here like Stephen A Smith and just yell shit and think it makes you right.

Hmm

man. I love it. I love it. How did I do? Can we just end the show now?

Speaker 3 (47:34.862)
That's what makes me laugh though. Like come on bro, like I get it. If you don't want him, you don't want him, fine, that's cool. But come up here and say the real reasons why, like legit shit.

Okay. And you, and you said, Hey, we're going to act like he's the second coming up. The thing if we never take the shot, take the opportunities with the young head. Then are we going to find the next Ben Johnson? When are we going to find the next coach to like that? That's young. We don't give them the opportunity because guess what? All we're going to be doing is going off the same thing. And this is why we, keep saying, I get the thing with Harbaugh. We're enamored with the resume.

Good one.

Speaker 2 (47:55.17)
the

Speaker 4 (48:16.312)
We're enamored with what he did in Baltimore.

I get it, but if he comes over here, he's only gonna be here for a short time. He's been in the league coaching 18 fucking years. So he's only gonna be here maybe six, eight years, 10 maybe at most, if he can change the culture here. If you hit with Kubiak and you take that opportunity, he can be here for the next 20 years. 20 years.

lot of

that

5 years would be great, 10 is almost like year

Speaker 4 (48:57.448)
Wait wait, let's let's

Let's not get our expectations too high.

the

But again, I'm working at the longevity.

Let's keep-

Speaker 2 (49:10.881)
Yeah.

I get what you're saying. I get, I get what you, but I mean like this is why I say go younger because I see the possibility of having a guy here a longer time.

Right. No, and I get that. And that's why I like the WebKit. But I get it. People say he needs time calling plays as an offensive coordinator. Right. Whatever.

And that's why I like Kubia.

But yeah, either way to speed this along

Speaker 4 (49:37.4)
Look at that, we locked in, papi!

I'm gonna go

We're going to Calibash on Friday.

Either way to speed this along there's not much we can we can't do anything until obviously would Till they decide and what coaches are available and again if they're still in the playoffs and Kubiak is still so if he's their number one option that they're looking at and we're gonna have to wait

But whoever we bring though like can we be patient and let them yes, yes Yes, yeah like like you know Don't be like hey cool. They're gonna bring you but we need you to work with day ball, know, like day balls gotta be your own Yeah, you know shit

Speaker 4 (50:11.766)
be patient.

Speaker 2 (50:21.806)
No, the fans have to be patient too and not want to you know, lynch mob the guy five games in if we're 0 and 5 it's

You can save this right now.

No, it's a big ask, but man, we just can't be so quick to want to shit can somebody again, we'll never get out of this stuck cycle of being trash constantly. Anything try and develop. Right.

Absolutely

Speaker 4 (50:47.182)
I'm gonna tell you guys like this just because we draft Mendoza and get a new head coach Raider nation It don't mean that we're gonna be fucking playoff team

Thanks

You might not even play next year.

Right now because I'd be like I've already seen it. we just get Mendoza we get a new head coach We're gonna be in the playoffs next

I know. One play is not going to change anything, but with Robert DiValli, Rob's question here, what will we do with the first pick? So let's just talk a little bit about the draft. I'm going to go too crazy with it because in all honesty, until a head coach is picked and he fills out his coach and staff and the rest of the homework is done on these college kids.

Speaker 2 (51:32.226)
There's, no telling what the actual true pick is going to be or what we're going to do. I know everybody, the consensus overall, number one is Mendoza. So do you guys have anything different other than that? Or do you guys just so strict and stuff with Mendoza?

I'm not I get it. He's a consensus everyone's favorite fucking Abbas like Surpassed Prince probably on Spotify because of the Raider nation But I'll say this and I'm gonna and I'm gonna try to say this as nice as possible College football casuals y'all need to chill and not get so enamored with the awards or even the winning of a national championship Because we could come on here and have a show one day and I can tell you

Quarterbacks who won the Heisman Trophy winner who didn't amount to shit in the NFL? Right. I can tell you quarterbacks who led teams to undefeated seasons won the NAD and Didn't amount to shit in the NFL and at the same time quarterbacks who didn't even win a bowl game Let alone a national title to win have amazing fucking careers in the NFL So if you're if you're hung up on the fact that he's an Heisman Trophy winner that he's about to win the national championship

And those are the reasons why you have to take him number one.

Speaker 3 (52:54.082)
You need to do more and understand about why the good thing about him. The one thing I will say about Fernando, he is smart. He does look like a smart kid. He, he's smart. he has good, he's big, he's got the measurables. He's got the measurables. But I mean, other than that, I mean, that's all I will say as far as it comes to Fernando. Cause I just seems that that's what everybody wants is Fernando. And I get it. We don't have a quarterback. So I would be the same fuck, same. get it.

We want a quarterback. want a quarterback. need a quarterback, right? Yeah, but.

Shout out to Afakasi with the $5 super chat. Genuinely curious who would Jeff take if it ain't Mendoza or QB?

20-O lineman.

the the

Speaker 2 (54:08.93)
which I think is what number 18 or something like that. And then if he's there, I would take Chambliss and I would go with the top best player available at number three. I just, sorry, I'm just sold on. I like Chambliss. really do. There's just something about that kid that I like. And it's not that I don't like Mendoza. I just want more value with that number one pick than just grabbing a guy that we may not even start or probably won't start this coming season.

What is gonna happen?

Explain that more about to have them come at me

It's not like it's anything new people know my take if it comes to the pool where we stick it number one and we take Mendoza I'm fine with that. That's the decision. I'm good, you know As long as we address in free agency, which is prior to the draft the offensive line If we get if we take care of that offensive line and we get a true bona fide at least two guys Veterans on the for the offensive line and you want to go with Mendoza all good. I'm on it, which is what we should have done last year

before we drafted Gentie and we would have had a better season. We would have actually won some more games because Gentie would have had a much, much better season and he still had a decent season for a rookie. So last year I wasn't against the Gentie pick. I just didn't like the way we went about it because we didn't support him enough. And it's going to be the same situation if we don't address the offensive line and free agency. And if we don't, then taking him first could be a big issue. That's my take on that. It's not the kid's talent. It's not that I don't like him.

Speaker 2 (55:42.126)
Has nothing to do with that. think he's a great quarterback and he's got a bright future in the NFL. I just don't think the time is right. I just don't if we can't solidify him. If everybody wants to win games next year, whether it's him or not, we gotta address the offensive line. And if we don't wish group will be right back. This past season.

100%.

Thanks Afakasi, I appreciate you.

I'm saying this to start my life. My treatment choice.

Will, what's your take on-

Speaker 4 (56:11.715)
Man, if you don't take Mendoza at one, right, because the quarterback position is so high, I'm with you. We trade back. But and I'm taking Bain out of the youth. I trade with the Jets. I trade back to the Jets and I take Bain out of the youth and I

out.

Speaker 4 (56:31.616)
I'm pretty sure there's a good chance he'll be there at three.

The giant like who's got number two? No jets at three

The Jets.

Speaker 4 (56:41.73)
Giants, but they have Aaron Burns. They just drafted him last year in the first round.

Hang on, am I wrong? I could be wrong, hold on.

Speaker 2 (56:56.29)
No, Jets are too. All right. It's us. Jets, Arizona, Tennessee. the Giants are five.

One day you guys will believe me.

It should have been there I take Bain I Get more traffic tonight acquire more now if we're saying that we're gonna draft the guy at number one Besides Mendoza because nobody else wants to trade with us

Exactly

Speaker 1 (57:24.6)
truthies.

If we don't trade the pick, I think we take Mendoza. There's no

I believe.

Speaker 3 (57:34.636)
That'll be like when homeboy in the movie draft day he moved up and he took the fucking linebacker that he wanted. Remember?

Yeah.

It would be some shit like that, like yeah.

Guys James, what's your thoughts man?

definitely John NFL's a lot faster than college.

Speaker 4 (57:56.256)
And you know what? I'm Mendoza or trade back. Mendoza or trade back? You know what? That shameless kid is an interesting project, right?

He is as long as you're not a fan of measurables because he's not that big, right?

He played D2, like I told you guys. I followed him up. I actually know his coach because I went to a coaching clinic with his coach. I feel like the things that he does are great. But again, I'm like, I'm looking at it. Will he be able to do that type of things? the next level, right? Where he extends the plays and does the little flick of the wrist gets the ball out. I mean, like that's very Patrick Mahomish.

Yeah.

Speaker 4 (58:45.326)
Right. People are like, my gosh, bro. That's like Patrick Mahomes.

Thanks.

We need to stop like that we're gonna find a Patrick my homes

There's only one packet of all

And there's a reason why he's that you know what I

Speaker 2 (59:02.638)
I'll line back to you, think it eased them in tables too.

Yeah, it's more exciting. Dart. Dart! Dart was a fucking dog. Dart was a

I would have taken dark and a hot beat last year and I don't know. Not at six, but if we were to move back and move back into the first round to get them. But the Giants made a smart move, man. That's I'll tell you what, man, that that coaching job for that team.

That is six, but yeah

Speaker 3 (59:30.158)
Yeah. Yeah, people want to chat talking, you could take Chambliss in the second. I don't think you can anymore. This. Driven that even if you grade a player second or third round as a quarterback because of their positions.

It's it's it's it's it's it's it's

Speaker 2 (59:45.32)
He's on that crossword now.

Let's be real, this draft is quarterback depleted.

And that makes it even more like

Cause more's not coming out, so he's going back in for another year.

see, so now there's news. So the kid out of Nebraska, the quote unquote next Patrick Mahomes is going to Oregon. We transfer to Oregon. So with that news, that news coming out. So now everybody's saying because he's going to Oregon. That means more must be coming out. Yeah. He's going to Oregon. Yeah, he's going to Oregon, bro.

Speaker 4 (01:00:06.03)
Are you kidding me?

Speaker 4 (01:00:18.071)
No

Reola, Dominic Reola?

Yeah, yeah, yeah,

He was just at Texas A wasn't he? Because they were saying, he's going to go to Texas A or was it Oklahoma?

One of those, forgot what it was, anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:00:35.374)
But whatever school it is, he followed him down there because you know, he wanted to be like him. Yeah, and like the hair thing and everything was going on. That's insane, bro. What Dominic Raiola now is going to Oregon.

Yay!

Speaker 3 (01:00:50.104)
Yeah, transfer to Oregon.

Travis says it's hard to not take you serious without that big hat on you.

would wear it right now, Travis, but I left it in Chona's truck,

Headphones like shit

Yeah, and it's funny. That's the thing. People always ask me like, how does it fit on your head?

Speaker 2 (01:01:13.07)
Bueno, we're going to draft Alberto Mendoza. Yeah, his younger brother.

Who was the guy that we said that they drafted accidentally?

Was bright the wrong bright young. No was it something like that?

Yeah, was the wrong Bryant Young.

They're supposed to one another one. Yeah McDaniel's and fucking Zeigler shit right there. My thing with the number one pick You're not you hopefully you're not here again next year, right? You're hopefully you're not because this is our opportunity to go get our guy You know if it's Mendoza, it's Mendoza You cannot refuse to listen

Speaker 3 (01:01:56.728)
to people whom what they're gonna offer you for the number one pick, right? The same way people say you have to keep your ear open for offers on Max, right? You have to keep your ear open for offers on the number one pick as well, right?

So Cheeto, what opera would interest you?

I don't know, I don't know what happened.

so it's funny because our homie, shout out to our homie JT the brick, right? You know, he talked about it on his show today. So because he mentioned it, everybody's talking about it now. But I think me and fucking Jeff have been talking about it for a while about trade that shit back.

But what came up is what would it take? I think JT has said four number ones. That's too much three three number ones in a player like whoa, I'll be If it was like Caleb type quarterback or say arch coming out Then I could see you getting three number ones and shit like that, right? If we got three number ones if somebody offered us three number ones for our number one pick And they will say someone like the Jets. So only drop one spot To me that would be a good trick

Speaker 3 (01:03:04.27)
Cause either way, obviously they're going to take Mendoza. And then if you want more, if you want whoever, that's who's going to be there at number two for you. But three number ones can be fucking awesome for your future. Yeah. Two number one? I don't know about you. think so. Yeah.

In all honesty, this is what I was kind of hoping if we did trade with the Jets, right? So we go from one to two, they move up to the one we get the second first round pick. So they still get their overall number one pick in the first round. And then they've got three first round is next year. Yeah. And two, one is Indies and one is Dallas. So if we could get one of those two, I would prefer the Dallas one. Cause that's an expendable pick for them.

If they want Mendoza that bad and they don't call our bluff, like if we, we try and bluff with them that, Hey, we're to take Mendoza unless you really want them, but this is what we'll take instead. Well, and if they don't call our bluff and they, you know, and they, they make, they bite on it and they take that trade. think three could be possible because they've got expendable picks for next year, which they could still do something to move around the board for next year too. You know,

Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:04:12.578)
No.

Speaker 3 (01:04:20.106)
I don't want it to be in the teens, you know what mean? It has to be a team that is still in the top of the draft So if we go down from one, we're not going down from like one to twelve, you know If we are that should better be fucking no I know that that's what I'm saying. But what I'm saying is I'm not saying that's I don't want to trade like that either I don't want to go from number one to twelve

go from

Speaker 4 (01:04:44.6)
Saying that if we get one that puts us out of the top 10. A lot of. Yes, I see a lot more like capital for it.

Yeah, I wouldn't I would be a lot more

Allah

Speaker 2 (01:04:54.498)
Well, that's why I'm in the three first round is two this year and one next year.

I don't know, he said he wants more than that if we go on uptown now.

one from next year.

And not even the two years, I've owned three years bro, three years of your number one.

You can do that too.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09.986)
You three years of your number ones.

the

That's why I'm hoping as much as I want Miami to win on Monday, I'm hoping that he balls out on Monday. Because if he balls out on Monday, that's only helping us as his stock continues to rise. Right, because then people become more enamored with fucking Mendoza and the value like Jeff said of that pick, right?

becomes even greater. Did you see that? So let me ask you this, you know, if the jets give you their number one this year, which would be their number two, and then 18 for this year, and then give you a number two for next year, or this year or this year's number two.

Ugh.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03.916)
Do do it? Or does it have to?

Technically it's two number ones this year. So it would be the two and then the 18, right? And then a second this year or next year?

Plus.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18.242)
We do a second this year because.

Second view.

Sure would be good too. You know why? Because they're at the

That's why I'm saying

at that point.

Speaker 3 (01:06:27.982)
I'm putting all your marbles in mid-drive.

So I'm gonna throw a monkey wrench into this for you too.

Yeah.

Joe Burrow.

I'll trade James.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41.678)
the borrow what do you do it's hypothetical it's hypothetical I don't want anybody in the chat to kill me over this but I'm just throwing it out there because it's been talked about and I just want to hear your two takes on that

Just one

Speaker 4 (01:06:58.658)
This one pick? This one.

one pick we're giving them my number one overall

It goes right now. Smoking Joe Barrow, you'll be in Las Vegas tomorrow, baby. If it took only this one pit, this number one pick for smoking Joe Barrow to come to the Las Vegas Raiders, we do it. The reason is because you're looking for a you're talking about a proven commodity about a guy that's a winner, a guy that doesn't need an offensive line, which we don't have.

Hehehehehe

and can take you to the playoffs and make you a contender instant. Huh? He can take... Look at what he's done with the bangles!

Speaker 2 (01:07:35.854)
Okay, easy on the pole.

the the

I'll see you

Speaker 3 (01:07:59.32)
There's two things with burrow. One is Alan think there's two elite quarterbacks right now. And then if I want three, I just don't want to say 15 because he got hurt, but it's 15 Alan and burrow to me. Those are the top fucking three. Right. So if you can get burrow just for your number one pick. Yeah. But you got to understand at the same time, we do have a lot of salary caps. We're also going to inherit that contract. And that's a big fucking contract.

But we could also renegotiate with him too. We could extend that contract, give him more guaranteed money upfront too.

and then

Speaker 3 (01:08:37.679)
You could do that, but that's what I'm saying. But it's just one. Like basically you're asking me if I would trade Joe Burrow for Fernando Mendoza.

It's Joe Burrow

Speaker 3 (01:08:49.119)
My answer would be yes, I would. Yes, I would.

So you would take Joe Borrow over Fernanda.

yeah, dude, to me, Joe Burrows, one of the best QBs in this league, man. Yeah.

Could you sweet, could you see that? That's going to be like TB 12 aura in Vegas, bro. That's the way that freaking he walks into the building. Yeah, bro. Are you kidding me?

But you gotta protect the kid you the same way we're talking about you gotta protect for now Fuck take Joe, man

Speaker 4 (01:09:13.451)
you got you

you have to have the same game plan for protection for no matter what quarterbacks here i don't care who would be on the roster or anybody would bring it in whether draft or trade you got to go with that protection plan other than that it's often often

No, not only-

Speaker 3 (01:09:31.704)
Hey, you would really have to focus on giving Joe that run game. Give Joe that run game? my God. You're over like. Remember how different John Elway looked when they got.

Yep.

You c-

Speaker 4 (01:09:41.037)
Did you see him with Kubiak?

Speaker 4 (01:09:47.937)
Bye, game.

It was like the world got lifted off John always fucking shoulders, not

Hahaha!

Yep. And we would have to be, we have to become a run first team. I said, this even when I don't need a quarterback to come in here and throw for 4,000, 5,000 in a season. If he throws for 3,500 and I'm running back is getting 1700 yards a season running. I'm fine with that. Cause that means guess what? We'll probably more than likely winning games because we're pounding the ball on the feet, on the ground.

Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:10:01.966)
This last week.

Speaker 2 (01:10:22.878)
and

Right coaching staff coaching those hogs developing those hogs, you know, and to me that's like back to what you were saying Jeff and all that Who's gonna be here coaching these guys, you know, who's gonna be developing these guys?

Ha ha!

Speaker 4 (01:10:48.886)
Yeah, could you see smoking Joe Burrow behind a Kubiak led offense? And I mean, like honestly, if you get a Joe Burrow and you then you talk to the coaches, did you say, Hey, Joe Burrows going to be your coach? Attractive is that.

know, beach houses.

Joe burrow won coach a national championship bro coach is never gonna win himself another fucking national championship if you know who coach

I love Kojo!

Speaker 2 (01:11:21.71)
the

And we're

What he was young in that movie he was a coach of what team in that movie Shit who was it? man, but I yeah, yeah, he was on that I have been I want to take you know, cuz Ole Miss was where he ended up going right? I can't remember

It wasn't what LSU was- NO!

Speaker 2 (01:11:40.462)
Was he with Ole Miss at the time? He by-

Speaker 2 (01:11:47.724)
Yeah, but I think that's who is the coach.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a good recruiter. He's a damn good recruiter. I know that.

Speaker 2 (01:11:57.888)
Yeah.

Yeah, for real.

I mean this combination right here, I know it's a pipe dream, but I just had to throw it out there. I just wanted to get you up two takes on it. was just clear.

man, I'm a big big fucking fan of Joe burrow

know you are, that's why I wanted to make sure I brought it up tonight. could have saved it for tomorrow night, but I really didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:12:18.977)
Yeah.

I mean, and it still gives us a chance to, you know, we got to grab a quarterback regardless in this draft, whether it's with the number one pick or later on in the draft, because we can't fall into the same rut that we did when we had Derek Carr here. As good as Derek Carr was for us, and nobody can deny that, we didn't do any, we didn't give him any help either to help progress him, make him play better. We never, we never really high, we never really drafted anybody to give him competition.

know, the time that got a fire under his ass was when we brought Mariota over here. Yeah. That was the only time.

Yeah.

And that's it. Draft two quarterbacks this year. Draft three. You got to draft as many hits as you can. If you think the guys are there.

Speaker 2 (01:13:04.652)
What about like one of them's gonna stick

I think a lot of the misconception thing too is when we talk about drafting quarterback and we say, we need a lot of pieces. And I know for you guys too, probably, but for me, I know we're in a rebuild because in a rebuild doesn't mean you can't go out there and get your quarterback either way you're still building. So that's why to me, it's so important who the coach is, who the coordinator is. Cause if that's their guy. And I said this on Monday, as much as I've been saying about how I don't think Fernando this Fernando that, but if we go out there and draft him,

But just

Speaker 3 (01:13:37.038)
Guess what I'm wearing coming back from Pittsburgh, right? A Fernando Menjosa jersey, because he's a fucking raider. And same way, like I wasn't happy when we drafted Genti. You know, I thought the value this, this and that. But same way, I have two Ashton Genti shirts. I have an Ashton Genti jersey. Actually, I have two Ashton Genti jerseys, right?

Yes.

Speaker 2 (01:13:58.382)
What are you saying? You're better than me? Cause I don't

I'm going to.

No, what i'm saying is i'm still gonna support them when we draft them because they're fucking raiders at that point. Yeah

Jarrad you lost me on this list. What you lost me when you got the parham?

He lost me a betch bro. Tucker was a stretch.

Speaker 3 (01:14:29.87)
You you you don't like him. I know I brought it up on my. Raider for you and Parham was under. And then when we said his name, I think a couple of oh yeah, you could bring them back. That's a piece this and that I can hear Jeff in my mind like.

the

Speaker 2 (01:14:44.91)
the

Yeah.

But we need to slow down with throwing jack best his name up there when we talk about what our team can be right? Yeah

I mean, I know, honestly, he just didn't get enough chances. And I think he shows promise. Yeah. Could he be something in the future? Jerry's still out. But I think, you know, given the fact that, know, if you look at how many passes were thrown his way, how many he caught and then how many were thrown Thornton's way and how many he caught, you know, how many bobbled and hit him in the hands and you drop that thing, drop many. I think he missed 10.

Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32.268)
Now he didn't drop that many, but the thing is you still got to create separation, right? And I get it with the right offensive coordinator. Maybe he can scheme him wide open. Look at Renfro. I think Renfro excels on the type of offense that we ran because you let him do him. You use him for his strengths, right? Right, yeah.

He hasn't meant much of anything since.

Speaker 2 (01:15:57.282)
Well, as far as.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02.654)
So we just covered the head coach covered the draft. Now the big talk on the black hole side of things is the talk of actually going to the draft April 23rd to the 25th. Those are the dates of the draft. That's a Thursday, Friday and Saturday. So Thursday night is round one. Friday is round two and three. And then Saturday is the rest of the rounds.

I normally stay for day one and two after that I bounce.

Yeah, I mean, my game plan is to drive out there on Wednesday and then come home Sunday because Saturday I'm not going to go to the actual draft because it's, you know, round four and to the end, it was just one of our.

I ain't singing Fernando, dawg. You better do name more than two dollars you want me to-

Yeah, not for two bucks. I'm Because on Saturday I want to go to the Hall of Fame It's only two hours away from Pittsburgh. It's worth it. I've never been before and I definitely want to that that's on my bucket list for sure

Speaker 3 (01:17:07.81)
Yeah, I'm Trip to the Hall of Fame for when Marsha gets in. I want to be there.

Pittsburgh for the draft to be that close to it and not want to go.

some reason I went to Pittsburgh for a game and didn't go to the Hall of Fame.

That's crazy. Yeah, you're crazy.

Thanks.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27.788)
I wanna go, but I wanna go when Marshawn is being inducted,

my gosh.

So shout out to predator with the $2 super chat. I want to hear all three of you guys sing for me. I do a lot of things in my life, but I ain't singing that couldn't stand.

Negative ghost, right?

Speaker 3 (01:17:46.54)
I spot doing a five spot might get you a little chorus.

Hahaha

Right? There might be something in the air for a little five spot. I'm just saying.

Ahem.

Bye!

Speaker 3 (01:18:01.89)
Gadgin plucking needs to be in bro. I wish I wish man if Jim Plunkett gets in. my lord, bro, you know,

Yeah.

So much hate for

Speaker 3 (01:18:17.336)
I don't understand it.

What a spot.

Hey, he really left, he didn't say nothing, huh?

Nah, he just... go on.

It just bounced.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30.56)
Yeah, you know what everybody keeps on I mean I get the sentiment for Plunkett but he's not gonna I'm telling he's not gonna get in anytime soon. He's gonna he's gonna get it after he passes. He's gonna be

Speaker 2 (01:18:44.28)
You know, because everybody will sit there and say, well, won Super Bowls again. The Hall of Fame is personal accolades first. And he doesn't have the stats, you know, the touchdowns, the league MVPs. Yeah, he won a Super Bowl MVP. He was the winning quarterback on the Super Bowl winning team twice. You know, he doesn't have the numbers to back it up and people be like, well, what about Kurt Warner?

And I used to bitch about this. How does Kurt want to get in ahead of him? But Kurt one has got the staff. He's got the league MVP. You know, he's he's he's won a Superbowl. I mean, he's he's got all that.

You cur-

I

Cardinals.

Speaker 3 (01:19:31.084)
Granted, he had one of the best wide receipt.

the

The back of the Eli.

Speaker 2 (01:19:50.028)
Right. Then the Saints didn't have.

Yeah, they're the ones that beat the greatest show on turf. Yeah. Beat him by a field goal. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:20:17.388)
And I get that, you have, think that's the thing that gets left out is heiress. The numbers one around in the air is either. you look at Eli, if Eli gets in, you're putting Eli in there for winning two super bows over Tom Brady. Cause Eli don't have the numbers.

Nah.

But you know Eli's getting in why? Because he's a manny.

Well, there's that and he also played a lot longer than Plunkett. Plunkett didn't have a long career as a starter either. He had a very short career as a starter.

Big falls no doubt

Speaker 2 (01:20:49.684)
What was that?

Nick Foles for his ballot.

the You know, so anyway, so we're talking about going to the draft. Anybody that's in here, that's a chapter president. Make sure you reach out to me if you're not on Instagram or reach out to Will or Leo on Instagram. We've got an Instagram chat started for the draft talk as far as trying to coordinate stuff or who's going. If you know how many people from your chapter are going so we can kind of hang together.

I guess why we're there that day. I know some are looking at Airbnb's, and just to see what, type of traction we get with how many people are going to this, because if we can plan something, we'll plan something.

Jeff is gonna go streaking after the first round draft pick. Be prepared guys.

Speaker 3 (01:21:43.758)
Yeah.

No.

Lester Hayes is another one.

Yeah, he should be in.

Yeah, yeah, I don't think staplers numbers weren't the best. And you have like a bunch of interceptions as well.

Speaker 2 (01:21:58.754)
Yeah, he was his stats weren't the best deal about now. He was he was him now. You know what I mean? At the time, he was that guy.

It was another era where we were a heavy-run team too. Especially with that off lead.

The league was a heavy run team back then bro. They meant to name it is another one that pisses me off that he's in there. Yeah, he's in that one game, bro, like flashing this guy.

Good luck.

But

Speaker 4 (01:22:26.472)
Don't name it!

and

Yeah.

That's what it is. He's in there because of his recognition. That's pretty much what it is.

Give me Lavender Bird Williams, bro. I would say Lavender would excel in today's NFL.

Speaker 2 (01:22:44.236)
Thanks for the back with the $1.99 super chat. With the number one pick, select Lavender Bird Williams. No.

You guys know who that is? The movie Wildcats, Golden Hawn.

shit, I remember that movie now.

The court

That's a

Speaker 3 (01:23:02.532)
Where Woody Harrelson was a quarterback at first, remember?

the

Yeah

There you go

Speaker 3 (01:23:19.534)
But I thought the thing that matters is the rings.

How many quarterbacks got a shirt?

Next dance,

Yeah, exactly.

One way like I would never tell you Trent Dilford deserves to be in the Hall of Fame never no one

Speaker 2 (01:23:34.346)
the

Yeah, but you're talking about doing it twice.

even brad

I'm remember more Jeff, we weren't supposed to that Washington team. That team was supposed to beat the Brakes Off of us.

hell no

Speaker 3 (01:24:00.846)
The defense had a lot to do with that game as well, you know.

But the defense was just phenomenal that day.

She showed her headlight and wop.

Okay.

You guys are old as fuck, man. I wasn't even alive. I was barely alive.

Speaker 2 (01:24:22.336)
I mean, I was-

I was seven years old? Six, seven years old?

as well.

What both of those 80s games, the Eagles game and then the Redskins game. mean, I the 76 one too.

Jeff still had hair, bro. I'd be like, the hair was flowing.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38.286)
He look like you again.

That's a skipper.

I haven't shaved my head since before we went to Philly. I just shaved it again this morning. I was like, I can't take it anymore. was driving me nuts.

Speaker 2 (01:24:55.17)
So if anybody, there any events you guys know of coming up?

Yeah. at the end of this month, cause Rudolf's is going to have an event down there in El Paso. I know that they're going to have that event. know that, also just sent me a message that they're going to have their event in April for their barbecue again. Yeah. 11th of April. Yeah. And I know that, the event in may is still going down, which is the event that's going to be up there in Reno. So

Yeah, I'm not going.

Speaker 4 (01:25:28.034)
Those are gonna be three or four.

You just skipped over to take over Bakersfield because you ain't And he went from like there to the end of May so fuck what's going on in between

well, I forgot.

Speaker 4 (01:25:40.494)
what is it called the summer takeover for summer kickoff and that's gonna be what April 11th?

Yeah

Speaker 3 (01:25:48.706)
May,

I might even I might make it out I'm trying to

You should You'll to meet Jack you'll meet Raider Mike will be there

All I want to do is I'm gonna make sure that I got that VIP ticket to the Cheeto Lounge I gotta make sure I got a VIP ticket to the Cheeto

Reddit.

Speaker 2 (01:26:16.524)
the

Speaker 2 (01:26:26.486)
805 will be there, severe might be there too,

Yeah, severe probably go. Yeah. We're trying to convince Chris, but I doubt Chris goes.

So hot so hot

Thanks.

It's going to be outside too, but it's going to be barbecue barbecue style this year.

Speaker 3 (01:26:44.822)
He wants me to read his last comment? Which one?

Right here, this one I just put it up.

We should hire Coach Monty McGrath.

it's-

You're a shit.

Speaker 3 (01:26:56.878)
What is it? What does he say something something for coach McGrath? my god. I love when she reads the fucking stopwatch

We love you from Europe!

Please.

You know the fucking kid watching that movie. I had no business watching that movie

pretty much. Well, wills ready to try this and don't bring your coin.

Speaker 3 (01:27:19.63)
So

Speaker 4 (01:27:24.034)
bringing my coins I got three of them so

Also, which is a black hole thing so the black hole in an empire right that is I your president

Look at

The lobby

with Mike Raiders Against the World and Joe Sugarfree from Misfits. We will be doing an Easter event March 21st in the city of Montana. Save the dates, save the date, more info to come. I'm actually gonna meet with them on Thursday to work out the details for food and stuff like that. The girls are already on it as far as activities and baskets and things like that for the kids and the families.

Speaker 2 (01:27:48.962)
So say.

Speaker 3 (01:28:03.374)
So it's going to be a family event. Make sure you come out. Um, but yeah, in Fontana.

March 21st.

March 21st, y'all save the date. I call him an empire. You're not 50.

Hahaha.

People believe anything I say, so that's why I said 50.

Speaker 4 (01:28:21.462)
Yeah, I'll take that. I'd look good for 50, I think.

Yeah, I mean look at me wouldn't know I'm 70. Look how good I look.

Speaker 2 (01:28:33.088)
If I look like this at 70, I'm fucking doing something right.

I guess.

Keep her on.

So Tito, let me let me ask you this. This summer event that you talked about in Bakersfield, what's it like? What's the environment like there? I've never been. So let us know what it will be like.

Speaker 4 (01:28:56.476)
my f***ing gosh, it's a f***ing majestic unicorn that comes out, bro.

Yeah, what?

What it is is you think about when it is it's after the draft, right? It's after the draft. We already have our coach we've gone through free agency So it's like we're ready ready to go for the season god. We're ready to go for the season. So If we're ready to go on for the season while you're always looking for discounts, bro If I go to Fontana do I get a discount discount for what man? Right like anyway

Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:29:31.03)
Anyway, the whole thing is, bro, it's to kick off. That's where we all get together where our season starts. Our fucking our our energy, our hopes are at an all time high, right? They haven't really fucked shit up for us lately, you know, because we're in a new season. We haven't lost anything yet. So we're ready and we're all in. Last year we were there. We were all excited about Pete Carroll. Right. We had Jeremy Chin there.

Cheap Bucks.

Speaker 1 (01:29:58.593)
Hahaha!

JPJ's parents were there. Yeah. So yeah, man, it's just really, really fun. Fun, fun event. We all get together. It's like, it's like kind of like a reunion. Like if I said the last game in Vegas was like the last day of school, right? The last day of school. So then Bakersfield is kind of like our welcome back to school. Like, let's get ready for the season type shit. Yeah. Yeah.

of it.

Speaker 4 (01:30:28.546)
Okay.

Like you want to know if there's a vet discount or an AARP?

No, that's why I'm laughing. There's no cover charge y'all. It's a event an easter

the

I'm just wondering what makes people think, hey, do I get a discount? Why?

Speaker 4 (01:30:49.194)
already. let me ask you this, know, is there a cover charge for the summer for the summer bash or whatever it is?

Yeah, the summer kickoff you buy tickets. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah, you find out and Yeah, mm-hmm. Are you guys ready though? Are you guys ready? Remember? I told you I was gonna share with you something

Yeah, go for it, I'm good. I'm sorry, I had to blow up Will's picture because I could see the picture behind him in the back. It looked like he was wearing like a 70s leisure suit. All I could see was the big blue collar sticking out.

right here.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22.968)
There you go. Now this I can make happen. You might get a discount to the Cheeto Lab.

BWAH-AY

Speaker 2 (01:31:36.264)
Is this what you were telling us about at the beginning? Yeah. God. I can kind of see it already.

Yeah.

Here you go. See it if I said it Baker's field is all about the after party.

Some people make it to the after party, some don't, okay?

Bye.

Speaker 3 (01:31:54.118)
Yeah, there you go see it's like that last day where we are the class. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, bro Yeah, but this is it shout out to my boy Ron I'm reader mission. I asked them to make me into a cartoon character And when we had this conversation, it's like what do you want? I was like, you know, give me like my personality the way I am We'll do a great job in that picture. He took that's me right there The only thing we're missing was the big hat, right?

Ha ha ha.

Okay, so when it comes to that, so he made this and this shit made me laugh.

That is the cartoon character he made.

my god, I love the tooth message.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36.93)
That's what I s-

That's perfect!

Speaker 2 (01:32:46.282)
the the

is perfect bro. Hey, your new logo? Is that the new, is that the new Pluto Raiders?

I do what I want with it. was a he gave it to me. He drew it for me. I had originally hired him to do it, but he said, don't worry about it. Just posted a tag and things like that. But yeah, I'm still debating what to do. My girl already wants one.

shirt you

Make your shirt, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:33:22.078)
Good, you know that.

Someone made a Lego one of me already. Yeah, someone That's what I was thinking on a hat so yeah, I might do that

the the

Speaker 3 (01:33:47.352)
That sure was awesome stickers too. That could be my sticker or my patch. Yeah, I was asking me Cheeto You don't have a patch that could be my patch your

don't have

Yeah, I made a new patch like I got mine do the same thing on that idea My shield almost looks the same as that the same like bigness like that

Shout out to Ron, cause my boy Ron, he's in a tough time. He's a graphic designer. He's an artist in an era where everyone's using an AI. It's tough. So I can appreciate like stuff that was designed and created and you know what?

Speaker 3 (01:34:26.668)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:34:40.546)
May you have a great tree, Leo.

I'm excited for our event in Easter. I'm not going to lie. It's my first one, you know, this season coming up. I'm glad to be pairing up with the people that I am with. I've worked with Mike. I worked with Joe. So, you know, we're excited to be able to bring that.

That's awesome, man. mean, like, so what made you decide to do Easter?

You know me and my girl have been talking about it. Like what are we gonna do next year? We want to do a different something for the for our fans But she's been really really pushing me to do community stuff give back to the community stuff like that So when we said Easter and I was perfect

What is that?

Speaker 4 (01:35:21.358)
Would you please show the picture?

in the background look at that picture on the wall that board all I saw was the blue collar sticking out and it just looked like it telling you from a distance it looked like a blue 70s like leisure suit

my lord!

Speaker 3 (01:35:36.808)
Leisure suit Larry, bro

You better get it right. That's fuck you. Scarface right there, motherfucker.

You're about as Scarface as Fernando Mendoza is.

Speaker 2 (01:35:52.579)
my

I get a I'm gonna think so I'm gonna ask you guys something anytime I hear him talk right this does it not remind you of like kind of the Tim Tebowish like kind of vibe well and a Mendoza

At who?

Speaker 3 (01:36:10.406)
no, no, he's cornier than Tim Tebow.

Speaker 4 (01:36:17.646)
But he's cornier than-

Yeah.

He looks like a Latino Scooby friend from Scooby Doo.

Speaker 2 (01:36:27.468)
all he

god. What up, Ken?

Can we do that side by side? Can we bring up a side by side of Fernando Mendoza?

He said Mendonza is Opie Taylor. wow.

Speaker 3 (01:36:51.118)
That was him at Cal with his blonde hair. Seriously, mm-hmm seriously, that's what makes me laugh when I see people post pictures of him as like Tony Montana and all this shit like you mean Slim Shady like fuck out of here

Seriously.

Speaker 1 (01:37:07.63)
Wait.

my God.

Yeah, Fernando got a manscape contract. That Fernando Mendoza.

Y'all are- Y'ALL ARE-

Speaker 4 (01:37:25.454)
You

my god. That-

Yeah. Does that look like Tony Montana to you?

It looks like Shaggy

Yeah, yes

Speaker 2 (01:37:33.966)
It's gonna be G

He looks like the kid from Meet the Millers.

the

Speaker 3 (01:37:48.758)
Yeah, that was, you thought that was like AI or something?

I didn't know what it was. I thought somebody just colored his hair and I didn't know that. my God. Looks like he's straight out of the early 2000s Blink 182.

Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:38:05.358)
Bye!

Tom from MySpace.

bye guys.

It looks like he should be on a wanted poster for driving around in a white van offering candy to kids or something Jesus Christ. He looks creepy as fuck in that picture

my gosh, bro.

Speaker 2 (01:38:27.31)
the

Yeah

Speaker 3 (01:38:39.83)
No, ended up, remember, because I'm doing the driving right now.

yeah, that's right.

So what are you going to figure that out?

told you Thursday will work, Wolf right now.

you didn't let it get that message. Yeah. So Thursday, yeah, lunch, we will be going.

Speaker 2 (01:38:53.454)
the

the

Or to end it.

He does look like Beavis more than anything though. Yeah, that's a good one. So alright, what do you got coming up Will?

So yeah, guess Thursday we're gonna be going live at lunch with Cheeto. Then I got a silver and black radio podcast. We're gonna be shooting the shit at seven o'clock on Thursday night.

Speaker 3 (01:39:21.998)
Are you guys doing that Thursday night? It's been a minute, right?

Yeah, we're to do it Thursday night. We're just going to be shooting the shit. Just you know what, right? Kind of open platform where we're going to talk a little bit about everything like you know, not nothing too serious, nothing too crazy. Be like we're to talk a little bit of sports. Just enjoy kind of just chilling, hanging out in the offseason at the moment, right? Because we see a lot of things going on and everybody is going to be talking about everything in their mother. But honestly, the first domino guts to fall.

that's us getting into the off season and us getting our head coach. So until that happens, really, later news is kind of on a stall. So yeah, man, I'm like, I'm gonna be doing that. And then I'll be back next Tuesday here on the silver and black radio podcast and the most. No, this on this one is broadcast like so many podcasts like, man, I remember, can't remember which ones was, but go ahead. What you got going on?

The same to silver and black hours.

Speaker 3 (01:40:20.526)
Tomorrow we're back on Raider connection with my boy Jeff my boy Nathan I'll be reader 10 and then of course our boy Jay will be on as well. So make sure you

you like you like

Speaker 2 (01:40:36.43)
the

no

do start up the studio, but I ran the show.

Well,

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think JG hasn't gone yet this offseason. Yeah. We'll see. I know it can't be anything because Nathan, don't you stream yard? Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:41:01.93)
I still BS stuff.

coming up with a and well on Thursday.

Yeah, just me and Will on Thursday. Yeah, yeah. Mm hmm. Save the date. Fontana, y'all. I'm on Empire.

Speaker 1 (01:41:21.774)
the

Discount double checks.

The only thing I got coming up on not the only thing but I got like Leo just said tomorrow night then Thursday night Nate and I are back for our next rate of connection last week we did a We each compiled the wish list Of the top five things we want to see this going into next season So I got to come up with another little thing this week as far as whether it's a game show or something So stay tuned on Thursday night 10 o'clock Eastern time myself and me

And then Friday nights, my, episode number three of the no huddle. So again, if you know anybody that's a, fan of any of the other 31 teams in the NFL, tell them to pop by at nine o'clock Eastern time on Friday.

And then that's it until next Tuesday.

Speaker 4 (01:42:14.332)
Where's championship belt?

Fenty's going to win offensive Ricky Lear.

Yeah

That's the belt!

That's the balance.

Speaker 2 (01:42:24.864)
Regular size. I'm just so big. mean

Bring it up close to the camera. It looks tiny on you.

That shit's Teemo as fuck, bro.

Ha

look at that.

Speaker 3 (01:42:36.299)
Actually, it looks like it fits around your arm.

Where's your where's your championship belt there cheeto? Yeah

Even get the dub dubbies logo on it. This was the cage match from the Wednesday night show that's saddened asylum do

Good job. Good job on winning that though, Jeff. Good job.

I finished overall in fourth place and I ended up winning the Super Bowl. The two teams that finished third and fourth, myself and Savage played each other in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (01:43:07.97)
Don't be sounding like James over here.

Speaker 4 (01:43:12.952)
Wait, didn't James win your Super Bowl there, Cheeto?

Yeah, he won the league this year. The league was pretty bad, though. There was only like five, six. Yeah. But Jeff had a headband.

It does fit him around my neck.

You look like a choker bro, there you go.

Bye guys, bye.

Speaker 3 (01:43:35.886)
Yeah, but apparently Gentie is one of the finalists for offensive rookie of the year.

Well he should be. I mean, he's the top running back out of the rookie group.

Yeah, but he's yeah, I think I think that T Mac wins that

absolutely.

You don't think that will?

Speaker 4 (01:44:00.374)
He made the playoffs.

Speaker 3 (01:44:04.48)
Actually, Jeff took Will's belt. is why his pants are always sagging. Damn, now you're always sagging, dog.

No.

Hey, peace out. Peace out, brother. I'll see you later, Anthony.

the

this guy. I had peace.

Speaker 4 (01:44:25.33)
Jeff walks in with the champ is here and then they see his ball.

Oh my god, champ is here? Champ is here?

You say what? Do you-

You know what? You can get one of those big hats, Jeff, and put it on the big hat. Get you a blank big hat and put it on there.

Yeah

Speaker 2 (01:44:40.872)
I mean like a crown

Yeah

Speaker 2 (01:44:47.554)
The funny thing is Savage is expecting his back next year when he thinks he's gonna win it, but I'm sorry, but I'm defending it and it's gonna stay right here.

He said, Will next time come on with that butterfly color.

for

What's going on G fam 87 nada what's up with

What's What's up, G-Fam? What's up, Sac-Hell Mike?

Speaker 3 (01:45:11.86)
Yeah

So I got nothing else. You guys got something.

No, no, no, no, bro. I'm done. I'm done. Yeah. Yeah What you got

I do got something. Yo, hey guys, what I want you guys to do is hit up my boy Cheeto Linus, his merchandise store. We're trying to get his store going. We're trying to get all his birds sold. So do them a solid, y'all. Make sure that you guys hit them up on Facebook and Instagram. He's been putting up his brutal Raiders shirts out there and all that stuff. Do our brother a solid man, go out there, show him some support.

Yes, that's true. I did beat him with a kicker.

Speaker 3 (01:45:48.45)
Thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:45:55.246)
Savings taxes.

What fuck is it? What is Ja talking about? That is so confusing.

This is you all seen a patriot fan get exposed someone asked him who's the better QB Peter Griffin or Drake Maine he said Peter Griffin he knew Brady he knew the system. Peter Griffin is the guy I know.

Peter Griffin is so they were asking this Patriot fan like yeah, he was a real fan and The guy must said dr. Peter Griffin was really a quarterback

I guess.

Speaker 2 (01:46:24.432)
my god.

It's kind of like when there's this video going on about 49er fans if they're real and they asked them who their greatest coaches Bill Walsh, right? Yeah, it's 49. Yeah Not a doubt bro. These people Keep saying like Shanahan Hardball it just random shit, bro. Not I think like maybe like one person said yo Walsh

Out of doubt.

Speaker 2 (01:46:48.062)
I'd say George Seifert

And it's jersey, right? That's what i'm saying. Yeah

49ers fan and I know that coaches they don't basically

the dude did the video for that reason saying these guys are such new fans they don't know their own history that they have no idea who bill walsh is

the into Allegiant Stadium. I saw guys dressed up like super fans and you know who I'm talking about. Absolutely blank. Did not hit on one picture and you call yourself a super fan and then you say, this is just too hard.

Speaker 3 (01:47:26.246)
You know what we should we we need to we need to rectify that Anthony if you're still listening We're next time we see you at an event or a game, bro. I'm gonna have you redeem the super fans I'm gonna come up with a little quiz and I want you to answer the question So can you show them the Raider fans know who played on this team? But yeah, I saw that I know AR I think I saw AR's comments on there if he commented on it, but he was living how this guy did not know

any other

That's why I'm like, bro, you claim to be a super fan just because you on a costume does not make you a super fan.

I remember that.

It's embarrassing, know, it really is. a Raidafan, you get embarrassed for it.

Speaker 3 (01:48:05.038)
Yeah, that one that one was pretty bad when I saw that video I was like, bro

Bro, literally I was like sitting there like, how do you miss every question? Like not even close.

Well, my favorite like it happens around here with New England. I'll ask. I'll ask a patch fan. like, I said, do you remember when Rod? I said, do remember who the coach of the one in 15 Patriots were? no, we were never one in 15. Yeah, you were. But do know who that coach was? No, I don't. I don't. I don't follow the rate, the Patriots. Then don't call yourself a true fan. I even know it's Rod.

You say you're a newer to the team, right? Like, he's be honest. Like if you were to ask my girl, she would tell you she's new. She don't know the history, but she knows about Max Crosby and company. You know, she knows how much we hate Gino Smith. You know, she feels bad when we make fun of Tyree Wilson.

the

Speaker 3 (01:49:02.817)
You know?

you

But at least be honest with your level of fandom, I guess.

right there bro what Savage just said so after they leave the spirit of Halloween store 100 % bro tell me it doesn't happen every year too

Every year offseason I see someone come on costume or whatever there they're not in it and they get asked something and Then they'll say something like I wish we need to resign this guy and my guys already like another team. We're like

Speaker 2 (01:49:35.694)
Mm.

Hahaha!

Right? Or what do you think about the about the draft? The draft didn't even happen yet. Right. Like you like I love the guys that we took. We took no one yet.

Hahaha

Or the guy that they're talking about, like you said, is already traded. Somebody that we cut somebody that's an absolute bum and you're like, Oh man.

Speaker 3 (01:49:57.058)
Hmm

You know, you're right too. We know more about other fans teams, but that just shows you how much of a true fan you are of the sport itself.

I know that because I'm a fan of the sport.

Yeah. And I say that I'm a Raiders fan first, but I'm a football fan. I can talk history on a lot of other teams and know more about some other teams history than some fans do. And it's like, how do you not even know about your own team?

Yeah, like I remember when Jacksonville in Carolina came on the scene as a new teams or even that it was the Cleveland Browns that became the Baltimore Ravens, right?

Speaker 2 (01:50:34.53)
Yeah.

And you see for me, I don't know as much like as people like as in history, I don't know a whole bunch. I don't feel my I don't feel like I'm at that level, but I'm like an X is a nose guy. Mm hmm. Strategy. I look at the things and I look at different things like that where I go like, hey, I can talk scheme. I can talk blocking. I can talk how to defeat a block. Things like that where it's a little bit different for me because I don't know.

You're more of an X's and O's type of guy. You know the integral part of the game itself. know, whereas I don't know it in that aspect like you do because you coached it for so long too. You know, I know it from a player's aspect a little bit, you know, and more of like just the history and watching games through the years and watching all these NFL films and shit like that. You just learn this stuff, you know.

Yeah, plus I'm younger than you guys.

Lots.

Speaker 4 (01:51:33.846)
So you guys lived it. You guys lived it.

Speaker 3 (01:51:45.518)
17 because I was born in 77. Yeah No, but I grew up a football fan. I loved watching the game Barry Sanders John Montana Jerry Rice fucking yeah, Randall Cunningham. We talked about Rhonda Cunningham like what? Rhonda Cunningham was around in this era. Jesus Christ

Gosh.

Speaker 3 (01:52:15.918)
When I was eight.

Speaker 3 (01:52:20.974)
There was no opportunity Amazon Prime to watch it you need to have Netflix to watch it

No, that's-

Yeah, you needed the bunny ears and your buddy to hold the antenna one way and put some type of electrical tin foil.

my god, when the red TV came out with the Sunday ticket? That was like fucking a gift from above man. I could watch all the games now. yeah

How much did Sunday ticket cost when it first came out, Cheeto?

Speaker 3 (01:52:51.726)
Well, that's 200 bucks.

It was 200 bucks for the season. Me and my brother used get it every year.

I didn't start getting the Sunday ticket until about six, seven years ago.

yeah?

Well, I didn't have direct TV. yeah, TV. Yeah. Well, the only other way to get it to before that was you had to get it through an app. If you weren't part of direct TV.

Speaker 3 (01:53:18.254)
And that's recently that was like

If you didn't own a, if you owned a home, you had to get it through a satellite dish. The only way you could get it through the app is if you lived in an apartment.

And they don't allow the satellite.

Correct. So I would use, I used my mother's address where she was. So I used her apartment so I can get it. I paid for it, but it was in her name so I could watch the games.

Dan I remember that the card you had like a direct TV card that was program and you would put it in your box and you have everything Mm-hmm. I remember that

Speaker 2 (01:53:52.686)
Yeah.

I for the longest time, I was going to the bar with the booster club to go and watch the games anyway, so it didn't matter to me.

I was cheap. just stole it from the neighbor. They used to this satellite dish outside and we just hooked up and took it. Okay. Then I got caught and they thought,

shit.

You know what this would fit I could put this on my grandson actually this might be too big

Speaker 3 (01:54:21.428)
somebody was saying that if it's their grandson.

I got my granddaughter wear it. I'm going to next time they come over, I'm to put it on.

It's still cool though. It's awesome. I love it

But anyway, you wanted to keep it to an hour and a half. went to two hours.

Yeah, as in either.

Speaker 2 (01:54:44.235)
I'm ready, I'm...

Yeah, you know, so guys, he don't need stuff.

D-Menace! What up my boy D-Menace! The creator and the originator of the Cheeto Lounge, thanks to D-Menace.

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Speaker 1 (01:54:58.959)
much

Thank you for the $5 super chat my guy and we're give you this

Speaker 3 (01:55:09.038)
We said I wonder how people got caught games in the night you didn't bro. You only watched it on YouTube or live

Yeah

That was it. That was it.

Cheeto sells jerseys. Yes, he does. Make sure you hit him up, man. He got nothing but the highest.

Right

Speaker 4 (01:55:32.878)
AIDERS! Wait Cheeto, if we order a jersey do we have to order a size larger?

Depends how you like it fit some people the dudes that go to the gym like how they fit If you're not

You've been nullifying

If you're a regular looking guy

He he.

Speaker 4 (01:55:57.343)
He needs a jersey. There's two people that need a jersey makes. So he does Instagram man.

at Cheeto Linus, Big Dog Instagram. Hit me up on there. You too, Steven. Let me know.

Mia dump the mana see that spellings right there cheeto Linus at cheeto Linus

Speaker 4 (01:56:19.938)
Why 13th?

I remember those,

or the radio. When I was in the Navy, we used to listen to games on the radio.

You had that's the only way you could get it out there. I could still watch

Some people, you can get it on ship.

Speaker 3 (01:56:39.66)
Not during my time bro, maybe you're During when we actually worked. Yeah, no.

Not during your time?

Speaker 2 (01:56:47.003)
well he was a Marine anyway, he was just leisurely sitting on the

So he was not a marine.

Yes he is.

Yeah, I just sat on the ship, bro. I did not damn thing on ship.

That's why he would know that you could watch it on there. He saw what he did.

Speaker 2 (01:57:04.76)
the

that's it all the time, bro. my God.

They fucking hated us, bro. I'd be a child

Speaker 4 (01:57:24.022)
Jeff, bro, that's all we did, bro. All you had to do all day long was eat five times a day and go to the gym five times a day and then go to sleep. Well, that's all you do on ship when you're a Marine. All you do is work out.

You're not getting fat.

You just told you you work out.

All you do, yeah, we work out five times a day.

Make you swim behind the ship to lose that weight. Catch up. Come on.

Speaker 4 (01:57:51.328)
We did did rep runs on the on the big aircraft

If you were fat while you were on there, it was a choice.

Trust me. Yeah. It was a choice.

No

All right, everybody, we're taking off for the night. Everybody have a wonderful evening. We'll see Leo and I will see you tomorrow night on the rate of connection with Jay and Nate. And until next time, stay safe. Go Raiders, baby.

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