Navigating Coaching Changes in the NFL

The conversation explores various themes surrounding NFL dynamics, including the impact of weather on games, the significance of coaching changes, and the importance of community engagement. The speakers discuss the complexities of drafting a quarterback, emphasizing the need for a strong supporting cast and strategic team building. They also highlight the unique challenges faced by the Raiders, including the necessity of finding a head coach and navigating the upcoming draft. In this conversation, the speakers delve into the complexities of NFL team dynamics, focusing on the importance of a strong defense, the evaluation of quarterback prospects, and the ongoing coaching search. They discuss the potential of quarterback Fernando Mendoza, the need for a solid offensive line, and the implications of drafting decisions on team success. The dialogue highlights the challenges and strategies involved in building a competitive football team, emphasizing the need for patience and thorough analysis in both coaching and drafting processes. In this conversation, the speakers discuss the current state of the NFL, focusing on quarterback options, team dynamics, and the importance of stability in management. They evaluate the potential of drafting a new quarterback, the impact of coaching changes, and the necessity of building a competitive team. The conversation highlights the challenges faced by teams in making strategic decisions and the expectations of fans regarding player performance and team success.

Takeaways

Weather plays a significant role in game dynamics.
Coaching changes can impact team performance and fan engagement.
Community events enhance fan experience and connection to the team.
Drafting a quarterback requires careful consideration of team needs.
The importance of building a strong supporting cast for a rookie quarterback.
Fan opinions on player performance can vary widely.
The significance of continuity in coaching and player development.
Community support is vital for team morale and success.
The draft strategy should align with the team's long-term goals.
Understanding player potential is crucial for making informed draft decisions. The importance of a strong defense in team success.
Evaluating quarterback prospects requires a comprehensive analysis.
The coaching search process is more thorough this time around.
Drafting a quarterback should consider the overall team composition.
A heavy running game is essential for a rookie quarterback's success.
Criticism of Mendoza's performance in key games is warranted.
Comparative analysis of quarterbacks can reveal hidden gems.
Future quarterback drafts may offer better options than this year.
Team needs should dictate draft decisions, not just player hype.
Patience is key in the coaching and drafting process. We should have done it last year before the drought.
It's a team sport. It's not an individual sport.
We need somebody on the other end of that ball.
It's a gamble. You draft somebody. You don't know.
We haven't had a winning season since 02.
It's not the play

Transcript

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Raider will baby, what's cracking? It's good Jeff. What's going on man? Long time no talk.

What's up, man? How you doing?

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Right, right. It's been a week and about almost two feet of snow difference from last week to this week.

Yeah, you ain't lying, man. Even out here in Colorado, I'm starting to get a lot more snow.

And we got buried this weekend, so was. It's nice when you don't have to go nowhere and you can just look out the window and go.

Right? No, you're bro. You ain't lying. I mean like I literally You know last week I started feeling like crap, you know I loved the show early one day and then you asked me on Thursday I was feeling a little bit better and then on Friday, bro ended up feeling like crap again, Yeah, I did and I was just like what the heck is going on but man Friday was one of the coldest days that I have seen

I'll be back.

speaker-1 (02:23.734)
And I'm glad it was cold man because I'm gonna tell you like this. Hey, that game that fourth quarter in Denver. Holy smokes, bro.

It's. Was it like six minutes into the third quarter and it started snowing like because they showed a time lapse after the game, like during the night game, I was watching. I was like, well, that's pretty freaking cool because earlier in the game, the sky was open. It was nice. Beautiful, beautiful day. The weather wasn't the temperature wasn't bad. And then I am second half started and started getting cloudy. then the snow came and you just watched the field throughout the third and fourth.

or to just go from green to just pure white. was like, holy crap. You couldn't even see the lines. And this was the first time I saw them do this, where they did that computer generated overlay over the field with the lines.

That's the first time I've seen that too.

Never seen that before. I've seen the obviously the yellow lines and the red lines that they do every now and then, but I've never seen it where they actually had the the oddage down because I couldn't tell I was doing a live during the game and I'm like, I can't even tell what the ball is right now. It's first and 10 from somewhere out the field.

speaker-1 (03:39.284)
You weren't thought you weren't the only one brother I'd be like we were watching the game and the announcers literally had a play Where there was no down marker. It just said first and ten Middle of the field somewhere, but let me ask you this Jeff

Does this change your mind? Because this is where I keep going. Like people say the Super Bowl needs to be played in beautiful weather and it needs to be in like a nice place. These games like this, but this weather makes these games so unique and so good. I'd be like, for me, the weather is part of the game. It's part of the essence. It's so involved.

It is and I get what you're saying. I think on the conference side, like when they're still playing in their own conference before the Super Bowl, that's why home field advantage is so important. You know, because if you're a warm weather team, last thing you want to do is have to go to Denver or come to New England or Buffalo if you're Miami, say, or Dallas Cowboys going up north.

So that's where that number one seed is so important. But I can understand why they do the Super Bowl in better weather because you want an even playing field for these two teams. So no one's got an advantage one way or the other. Because even in Florida this time of year, normally, it's fairly decent and everybody's kind of used to a warmer weather. It wouldn't be fair if the game was in Green Bay and it's Miami versus the Chicago Bears in the Super Bowl.

One's used to playing majority of the season in colder weather, whereas Miami's not. Miami always struggles when they come up north during the winter when they have to go to Buffalo or go to New England. They tried it once with the Giants hosting the Super Bowl at the Meadowlands. It was successful. They got lucky the weather was decent. But could you imagine a game like, just for instance, this past Sunday, if Buffalo would have won in Denver the week before?

speaker-0 (05:45.07)
That game where all that snow that we got in New England would have been here on Sunday in New England. And they would have been buried under a foot and a half to almost two feet of snow. So imagine playing that game. They wouldn't have been able to keep up with it on the field. I can tell you that right now. That snow would probably be about that deep on the field by the time they were done playing.

I get what you're saying and I get like it would be ugly, right?

Yeah.

It would be a number stop or what is it? A snobber knocker. Like bro literally be, yeah, it would be such a tight game. would bring me back to Gale Sayers running like he was just the wind on some muddy field where people are like, holy cow, bro, this is incredible. And I mean, like that's where some of those games come out. And I'm like, man, I really wish the NFL would reevaluate that. I get it. I get what you're saying.

It was-

speaker-1 (06:40.504)
We want fans to go to cool, great weather games. We're not going to fill up a stadium that people are going to be like, I'm freezing my ass off in Chicago.

would still go but I don't think you're gonna be able to charge the same price either though that's the other thing it's a different experience not only does Super Bowl come to town but everything that goes along with it like that whole fan experience and that's an outdoor thing you know I mean that that's easy to put it into a convention center nearby whatever but still it's more of an outdoor thing it's if you don't get to go to the Super Bowl but if it's close by and you can still go in

I agree

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take part in the NFL experience on the Super Bowl weekend. That's a great thing too. mean, I wish I could do that in New York when they were here. Because again, that's fairly close for me.

I did it in Phoenix. My father-in-law lives down there. I my daughter. I took my kids man great experience. Yeah, man, it's great and I think it's it's a great experience I do think that even if you did it in a cold weather you'd still have those abilities now, of course We're talking snow and everything like that would be a little bit more difficult. But yeah, man I mean like what a great game this weekend. I'd be like I was not just like

You know what it's like.

speaker-1 (07:57.698)
You know, after the Raiders are out, of course, I'm like, I continue to watch. I'm still a, I'm still a football fan. You know, I don't really cheer for any team. I'm kind of like F both these teams. can go both good, go to hell. But at the same time, great games this weekend. Jeff. I'll be like Patriots Broncos games was tight. I'd be like Stiddy. I'd be like they, they rode with Stiddy.

And they actually played a decent game.

I, that game turned out to be exactly what I thought it was going to be. And it was a defensive battle who, if, if you're a fan of a lot of scoring, then you were bored guaranteed on that. But when you're just a fan of the sport and seeing our teams try to readjust to each other, that was a good game. Even though it was a low scoring game, the second game, that was just ridiculous. I mean, that was, that was a great one. mean, I was more wired into watching that game because of.

Kubiak and wanted to see what he was going to come up with and how he adjusted and how he handled that offense. And I thought he did a hell, they did a hell of a job with how they, they came out with that offense, especially with the fact that they didn't have Chabonet. So you pretty much only had the one running back with Walker. Yeah. You had a couple others in there every now and then contributing, but you know, when you've got that one, two punch of Walker and Chabonet, that's a little bit different, you know, but I thought they called the hell of a game. I mean, that was a, those two quarterbacks lit it up.

I mean, 360 and the 370 odds for each. mean, that was insane. know, Smith and Jigba was playing out of his mind.

speaker-1 (09:38.26)
lying. my God. And you know what? You also said something, man. Kubiak showed me something in this game because they went blow for blow. This was, this was a Titan, like a Titan matchup, bro. It was a battle of the Titans and they're just out there throwing haymakers in Kubiak. There were some play calls where I was like, okay, this guy is creative.

He knows how to take advantage of his players and he puts Sam Darnold in such great position by running the football. I'd be like, look at their offensive line, Jeff, moving people. We were moving people, bro. And when you literally control the line of scrimmage, this is what happens. You win football games. They controlled the line of scrimmage on offense.

Yep.

And you know what and for some reason man, the stars are aligning I'd be like the sky is opening up for Mr. Kubiak to just walk down that aisle of the silver and black and be the next head coach

We'll see, things to be seen, but we'll definitely start talking at in a few minutes, but let's just hit the chat up real quick. Let's see who's checking in with us. We've got Raider News Central. We've got Robert Pena. We've got A-Lon. We've got Chris from Protect the Shield. Make sure you guys check him out along with Sevier and 805 on the War Room each week. We got Daniel Berry in the house. We have Perry Stevenson. Hello everyone to get the ball rolling. I hope we hire Webb, but who would the DC and OC be?

speaker-0 (11:23.31)
That's a good question because we have no idea what that coach is going to want for staff, so that still remains to be seen. With web has improved every QB's work with need him for Mendoza. Chewie's in the house accelerator's here. Tyler A is here. P &W Mark Sactile Mike. Rader Ryan. Harry and all the way here. The only way we trade them more figures of jets give us six.

Six first.

Six first three seconds and three thirds He says Jeff I send me something it's real Clint Kubiak will make a decision February News is he's very intrigued with the biggest job. I hope so. crap was stuck with will oops What's up, Jay, it's going on my dad Good evening from Arizona. Hope you stay warm, brother. Yeah, I'm trying. It's freaking cold out there right now,

Okay.

speaker-0 (12:23.252)
Let's see who else we have. Well, Linda's here. How you doing?

speaker-1 (12:45.528)
You know what? Right after that game, bro, I left with a smile on my face because I was like, I could already hear the go Broncos like I was hearing it at the bar and I'm like, fuck, man. I feel your pain. I feel your pain.

You're welcome.

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What's up?

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Tana Jackson in the house. What's up, Tana?

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Jay's here. Jay from Just Readin' His Babies here. What's up, Jay? My guy. Rorschach's in the house.

Daniel's here.

speaker-0 (13:26.574)
Tony chef it's in the house. What's up, man? I've seen in a little while. How you been? Six one nine, you know hire a coach already You know real quick. I want to do hit on that. I'm kind of glad that they kind of Doing their due diligence and I'm sure you know, we're not we're not jumping the gun here and just hiring the first guy we brought in you know It felt like last year. We got so far behind on going after coaches

that we had a set, I think we had a settle for Pete Carroll last year is what had happened. It wasn't like he was the choice from the very beginning. If it was, then it might have been, but who knows? It just felt like that's who was left. know, sort of like when you're picking dodgeball teams and the only person left is the big fat kid on the, sitting over there you're like, shit, you know, and you're going to pick him for your team. And he's always the first one out.

You know what man, you're absolutely right. So my boy sent me a text up We have another chat with some of my friends and he's like a this coaching cycle feels different Just the way that we are interviewing coaches the amount of coaches that we've interviewed Like there's really you know, yes to be acts been linked We've had a bunch of coaches linked but you don't hear a lot of chatter coming out from the organization

You don't hear like, you know, it's mostly reporters, beat writers, people like that, that are coming out and saying, yeah, you know, this guy's linked here and there. And you know, of course you get your other, bait clickers that immediately they see something and they'll start saying, this guy's already on his second one. You know, he's, he's looking like he's going to be a guy, but man, from what I've seen Jeff.

really no noise coming out of the organization. know Kubiak is supposed to be the lead dog, but I'd be like, Kubiak was supposed to be, he's the hottest coach without Harbog. And I'll tell you what though, McDermott is an interesting look for me, but Kubiak right now is leading it.

speaker-0 (15:40.022)
I think the other thing I like is you're not hearing players saying that to me, that's the biggest thing. There's no players getting involved like saying, we should get this guy. You know, there's no there's no players out there advocating for certain coaches to come in. If they are, I haven't heard anything. I don't know if you have, but I haven't heard anybody squawk and like we need to get this guy like you have in the past, like how everybody was petitioning for AP to stay on as the head coach.

You shit like that. You're not hearing any of that, which is fine with me. You're a player, just shut up and you deal with whoever comes in at the head. If you don't like it and your contract's up, then there's the door.

Bro, it's strictly business. I'd be like, tell me when's the last time you heard the Raiders acting like the professional organization. I'll be like, we're out here strictly business.

Probably never.

Hey, and again, I go back to it, right, Jeff? Like I'm at I'm like, how many coaches I mean, like we got defensive coordinators coming in. We got offensive coordinators coming in. I'll be like guys that I didn't even expect to get looked at or like get a phone call. They're getting phone calls. I'll be like, spy tech is doing his due diligence. Whoever he selects. I'll be like, it's going to be a really good pit for us.

speaker-0 (17:01.35)
Perry, I saved your question. I started. We'll come back to that because that's a good, I want to get Will's take on that because I really don't even have a clue as to who would be a good fit. So let me just get through this. Jason likes chunky peanut butter. That's weird, but okay. Arnie's in the house. What's up, man? MC. What's up, MC Rader? It got so, so now I, on their chat, on their show, I asked in the chat, he's like, anybody got any questions, go ahead and ask them in the chat. said, do you like smooth or chunky peanut butter?

speaker-0 (17:33.516)
What's Roy? Brandon, what's going on? How you doing man? Let's see, you're having a below zero wind chills? It's pretty freaking close, I will say that. Arnie, I'm coming back to your question too man, I gotta finish getting through this.

There you go, shout out to MC Ray, I watch your TikToks, you're hilarious man. He's a funny bad-

He's so funny and he keeps it in a book. He keeps it a book, you know, I love the one where he looks like a dead body. I feel like that every day.

Yeah. All the one where he's walking off into the water.

well, that's that's I feel that I feel that 100.

speaker-0 (18:17.128)
If anybody has it yet, make sure you get over to MC Rader. He's on TikTok. He's on YouTube, Facebook, all that. He's Rader fan, but he's also a stand up comedian. He is one funny bastard. He's he's stationed out in LA area. So it's good friends with Leo Cheetahlinus. So if you don't know who he is, look him up. See, didn't realize Rooney Rule applied to OCD. Does it? I didn't know that. That was just head coaches. James Ferpo's in the house. What's up, Ferpo?

speaker-1 (18:50.478)
Let's go.

Let's see, back into the bottom here yet? Yes, thank you, Chris. Make sure you guys hit that thumbs up, hit the subscribe, hit the notifications if you haven't. I'm 401 Rated Jeff. Next to me is Will. He's Silver and Black Podcast on YouTube. And then obviously we've got Cheeto Linus. So make sure you hit all three channels up.

And make sure you hit up our boy down there and make sure you subscribe to his he got some good podcasts going They're like always informative always like lively, man

Anthony Bossonier said the Raiders flagship radio station that needs close to remove a Kubiak as a candidate for the Raiders job. Kubiak has not come in for a second interview. I think we can, we can't bring him, can we? What's up, Dixon?

How is he going to come in? He couldn't come in before this championship game. Every single OCDC that I've seen have interviews does it during this week.

speaker-0 (19:52.642)
Well, I guess there was something I read that only us and there was one of the team that he interviewed with were the only two that can actually interview him during the time between the Super Bowl and now in the Super Bowl. So like nobody else that still has a vacancy that hadn't interviewed them, they can't contact them. It's only us. I think I'm getting to the end. I am at the bottom. Yes. Okay.

I agree.

speaker-0 (20:22.008)
So let me go back to those Mark questions real quick. Yeah, so first, bring up this one. Freight is higher web, who would be ideal DC and OC? I'm gonna let you take that one because you probably know the intricacies a little bit better on what you think would be a fit for web. I don't know web that well.

I know Webb, but I don't know what type of offense he would want, right? Because I haven't seen this experience from him being an offensive coordinator. This is where it's tough.

You can

Yeah. He's a quarterback coach. So he's going to come in. He's going to tell you what type of playbook he's we're going to run. It's going to be similar to Sean Payton. I don't know. That's his tutor right now. You would assume. So my thing is this, Jeff, when you, if you hire a web, you're taking a big risk. I'd be like, he's inexperienced play caller. He's never had a head coaching experience.

Thank you.

speaker-1 (21:21.496)
So you have to bring in somebody in my opinion that would be a heavy hitter. A guy that can come in and like either steady the boat or a guy that's gonna come in that he brings in. Again, I don't know who he would bring in. I don't know who's in his coaching service.

Yeah, mean, well, the thing that I guess would kind of.

speaker-0 (21:48.246)
like what are even options are still out there that are not in the college ranks? You know, for what would be an offensive coordinator? know, Dayball's going to Tennessee, so he's out. McDaniel's went to the Chargers, you know, which is gonna, he's gonna kind of tie in the next question that I got here.

They're like Kingsbury. I'd be like, you could bring in a Kingsbury, but a Kingsbury is going to.

Basically, if you hire Davis, think you're going to have to take a flyer on. It's going to be a whole rookie coaching staff, to be honest with you.

Get out.

does that force us to have to keep Patrick Graham here because we don't want to go with another rookie first-time offensive defensive coordinator you know or do we give Leonard the shot you know me personally I didn't want anybody left from this coach's staff nobody you know but I think it's gonna get to that point where what the hell are we doing

speaker-1 (22:50.25)
Right and that's where like I go like where's his coaching tree, you know web comes from the Broncos So right now I don't know who he's coached with before Sean Payton. I mean like this young We're talking like this is his first year really being high. I think the smart move for him is to do Exactly what he's doing. You've become the offensive coordinator, you know, you're getting more experience and make your name go higher

Everybody because if you go to Raiders.com and look at the coaches that everybody's still on the coaches that nobody's gone The only one that's missing is Pete Carroll Everybody it's still there even Brennan Carroll still there which still blows my mind that he's even still listed on the coaches that that hasn't been shit can already

speaker-0 (23:44.226)
So I don't know what they're gonna do with that. mean, all those other moves on the other coaches staff, it's probably gonna wait until the head coach is finally named and then he'll come in and either clean house or keep certain ones and scoot the rest out the door. Because the GM and.

be involved in what he brings in for staff. That should be his choice. These are the guys he has to work with on a day to day basis. Let's see, I hope we don't waste time waiting for Kubiak only to lose him to someone else. I get that.

I mean like who are we gonna lose him to? He hasn't interviewed with anyone else except for who was it? Who did he interview with Jeff?

Off the top of my head, don't know. I'd have to look at the actual breakdown who he interviewed. His short list, he only had like three teams on a list. All those other teams have hired a head coach. We're the only ones that haven't hired anybody yet. So we were still the only team left on his list of teams he would have wanted to go to.

I know it's us and I think...

speaker-1 (24:50.41)
My question is this, why are we such in a hurry to get this head coach in place right now? We still can't make any moves. If we get the head coach in place right now, who are you going to hire? You can't hire offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator unless they're not on a staff right

You know, you kinda have to wait.

Well, we can agree to hire him when the season's done. We can offer him and say that, we're going to hire you once the Super Bowl is over, which we have to wait until I think Tuesday before we can actually finally give him offer him a contract.

I mean, we could have, we could have, we could have should have done that this week. Who knows? mean, again, the week's still young. It's only Tuesday. Yeah. And so there's still time, but I'm fine with taking our time right now because there's still, I mean, another name that could still fall on our lap is if we turn around to Mike McDaniels, Hey, listen, you know, we want to offer you the head coach because it's still, it's not a lateral, it's still a move up. If they want to offer him the head coaching job, he's still available technically for head coaching job.

McDermott still available. Not saying that these are my top choices, but this goes to Arnie's question here. He goes, if Cubac decides to stay in Seattle and all the head coaches are hired, who's your worst case hire after Cubac, LaFleur, Davis are gone? After that, my personal favorite out of what's left would have to be, let's reach back out to Mike McDaniel and say, listen, we want to interview again for the head coaching spot.

speaker-0 (26:31.542)
I mean, I don't know who else after that. I mean, do you want to take a flyer on a really unknown? You know, are we going to go as deep as into the college ranks now? You know, if those three are gone, all the floor says he wants to stay in LA and Kubiak wants to stay in Seattle. And Davis doesn't want to leave Denver. We're limited.

unless you can pull another name off that I haven't thought of.

I'm literally

speaker-1 (27:08.824)
So I'd be like, and that's one open spot. mean, like literally. So now Arizona, ourselves and Cleveland is left, right?

speaker-1 (27:21.592)
Hey.

I'm calling Sean McDermott and I'm fucking coming to his house. I am, I am bringing the bag because I'm telling you like this, Sean McDermott is a real deal coach. I mean, like this guy has proven that he can change culture. I'm not saying that he's going to come in and win championships. I'm saying that he's going to come in and make us a contender. And for Raider nation to say that word.

and tender it's a lot right now where the first round rapid what's up brother what's going on big easy hey did you see a guys hit up hit up my boy big easy if you guys see his picture right there he gots a patch coming out with that logo right there it's dope ass logo man but you have to call McDermott you have to call McDermott and yeah you have to call

Yeah.

speaker-0 (28:23.706)
he doesn't want to coach in 2026, you still got to call him and give him a shot at it. I would. If those other three don't pan out for whatever reason, I mean, you got to reach out to him and I know you don't want to coach until next season, here's the options. The only downside is that makes us look desperate. Those three are still available right now. So it's like, I don't want to sit here and be, you

I'm just gonna...

speaker-1 (28:54.284)
to Debbie Downer.

Yeah, I don't want to be that. I'm in a good mood this week.

But let's be real Jeff, like even if these coaches say, Hey, Mike, no, not my marks, bro. No, no Kingsbury. Yeah. No Kingsbury. It's not that he's a risk because of what he did last time. He's the risk because he doesn't have a proven track record of going somewhere and building something.

I'd be like, we keep talking Kingsbury. He's a great offensive innovator, a guy that can come in and, but tell me like this, where do you see his proven track record of building something and making something happen in the NFL?

the

speaker-1 (29:57.58)
So, and that's where you look at that and you say,

What happened in Washington?

gone because they said he's going to look for better opportunities. Look at how many people have come a calling. That's what his market is. So why would you want him as a head coach?

Mm-hmm.

speaker-0 (30:19.82)
I mean, Roy, that's not a bad option either. Charlie Boyce would LSU.

But again?

Is that where went? No, he was with...

he went to gym. was with Ole Miss.

Yeah, because he moved with the lane kippen. But let me ask you this, Jeff. Yeah. Now you bring in a guy from the college ranks that has what proven track record to change an organization, to bring in culture, to bring stability. I'd be like Charlie Weiss Jr. is a name, a hot name. I get it. His daddy used to coach that he's coached in college and now we want to bring them to the NFL and say, Hey,

speaker-1 (31:01.464)
We're going to take charge of this team that just went number got the first round draft pick.

I don't think you do that to Charlie Weiss. Charlie Weiss needs to get experience, man. He needs to be a coordinator for a while first, or you know, and he needs to grow in that.

I mean, I get that too, but at some point you gotta give someone a chance. You know, I mean, do we want to be that team? Not really. Not if you're to have a rookie quarterback in here possibly, which still not 100 % sold out.

See, Raiders are screwed painting interfering with what I'm...

What's up man? Some die hard fans being a fan gonna be hot. Yeah it is. Vance Joseph is still out.

speaker-1 (31:41.74)
Yes, it is.

speaker-1 (31:45.953)
I'm like, no.

Thanks Skyler, we know that, that's why we're all here talking about it. Yeah, Raven's Titans Raiders, that's right.

Damn, we were the only ones left.

speaker-0 (32:05.883)
If we're going be back to go and we have to go with another option, maybe bring in McDermott. I agree.

trying to get through this.

You do what want, Jason. Why you asking me?

We've done that. The Patriots took that to a whole new level. They cheated worse than anybody. Jeffery withdrew his name from the Browns Cardinals. I'll you a DM. Yeah, it's tough for me to look at it while I'm in here right now. can pull it up later. Rams is all left to it was for coaches pretty much at this point. Let's see. Otschel 3.0. That's as bad as Gruden 3.0. No thank you. No thank you. thank you. Dayball's gone to Tennessee as the OC.

you

speaker-1 (32:50.412)
Yep. But no, but there's in, but again, he can get, do you offer him the head coaching job?

speaker-1 (33:01.602)
Debaugh, Jeff, let me ask you that. If we don't have Kubiak or Webb or anybody else that comes in, do you seriously look at Debaugh as a serious contender?

Because he does have that written into his contract. That if he does get the head coaching job, that you know, he'll take it.

I mean, he could, you could. I mean, I wouldn't be opposed to it. mean, all those other options would have to be gone before I would go that route. I would have rather had him here as an OC, to be honest with you, but.

Great.

That's a tough one.

speaker-0 (33:46.794)
This chat is jumping tonight. Holy crap. Ryan Flores.

I don't like flurries, a lot of football players seem to like them a lot.

speaker-0 (34:04.506)
It's like all the time. Yeah, and that's the thing. Tomlin, we can't bring Tomlin in unless we trade. I'm sorry. Anybody that wants to trade for a coach, but trade away draft picks for a coach, but won't think about trading back from the number one for more, you know, for more picks to get more players, but would be willing to give up anything to bring Tomlin in here. You you're smoking something because you're freaking crazy. Why would you strap the team for a coach when you could?

make the same type of trade by trading away at number one and gaining picks to bring more talent in to fill this roster better. Let's get by our number ones so we can grab a head coach.

So Jeff, let me hit you with this, If we call Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh tells me,

speaker-1 (34:56.534)
I'll consider it for a third round or fourth rounder. And we're thinking that we're going to make that move that you just said, you know what? And again, Raider Nation is going to implode right now. We're saying Mendoza isn't our guy. That's what they're saying. We're going to move back.

Then do you really consider if you call Pittsburgh and Pittsburgh says, hey, maybe third, fourth rounder, depending on where the number's at. But that's what we're looking at for Tomlin.

Does that make it so, and again, this is where we're saying, we're trading back. We're going to acquire more draft picks with the first pick. We're not drafting number one. Do you consider it then? Do you see that as a possibility with Tomlin coming in?

You're not trading away your first.

I still don't want to give up draft picks. We can't afford to give up draft picks. The only thing we can afford to do is gain more picks. Do something to gain more draft picks. We can't be giving away draft picks no matter where they are in this draft for a head coach. I'm sorry. I've never been in favor of trading a coach away for draft picks. I'm sorry, bringing in a coach, trading away draft picks to bring a coach in.

speaker-0 (36:24.526)
You want to trade away one of our coaches like we did with Groot and get draft picks. That's fine. I don't have a problem with that. I don't want to be giving away draft picks to bring a coach here. I just, I don't agree with that. I don't. Any team that's willing to give up draft picks to bring a coach in.

Unless your team is set like Tampa Bay was set. I mean that wasn't even Gruden's team when that happened. That was Tony Dungey's team. They just traded him, traded draft picks for him and he took him to a Super Bowl with a pre-existing team. He added very little to that. So that was Tony Dungey's team that he won that Super Bowl with. If your team's set and all you need is that one coach that can just give it that something extra in order to push you over the edge.

then yeah, okay, might be worth the shot. You might win one Super Bowl with them and then, you know, everything's gonna fall apart after that, but well, you know, but I'm not giving up draft picks. I don't care what round they're in.

Dookah!

No, no, I just, can't agree with that at all.

speaker-0 (37:36.558)
This chat is ridiculous to me.

Alright Jeff, Jeff's trying to catch up.

speaker-1 (37:47.438)
Here's been Dozal.

Had like 60 people rocking him for a while and it's just been banging, banging, banging.

Yeah. let me ask you that. Jeff, let me ask you that. Do you think Bendoza's a franchise guy?

speaker-1 (38:02.762)
No, not at the moment.

I just don't I'm sorry. I I know I get pushback from everybody when I say that But it's funny because I see other people that do YouTube shows Say the same thing Nobody says boo. I say it everybody wants to go for my jugular You know, it's a I just don't see the value and taking a quarterback at number one We've got so many holes to fill if we were ready like if we were a team that like say

Say Gino, say our team was doing good last year, but our quarterback just wasn't good enough. And we needed that quarterback and this guy happens to fall into our lap at number one, but we've got all the other pieces of the puzzle. We don't know what we've got still. You can only guarantee pretty much, I can only right now guarantee one offensive player in a skilled position that I know is good and is damn good and that's Brock Bowers. We still don't know how good Gent is because of just how we ran last year.

Okay, yes, he's good, but he could be so much better if things the right things were in place. All right, so that's the jury still out. Didn't get enough time. Tucker, I'm still not sold on him. Michael Mayer, we still haven't seen the full potential of what he can do as a tight end. Thornton can't catch the ball. He's like another Darius Heywood Bay out there for us. If that's I see him, that's all I see is a skinnier, goofy looking version of Darius Heywood Bay.

Okay, we throw the ball, hits him in the hands and he drops it every goddamn time. Drives me nuts. We have no, really have no backups for running back. So we're gonna have to look at a running back in this draft that's gonna help offset Gentie. We're gonna need offensive lineman, whether it's in free agent or the draft. So, but if we didn't need all these other fixtures and this quarterback fell to us, if we had the number one pick, then yeah, get him.

speaker-0 (40:03.416)
He may have to sit for a while going into next season, but it's something that we can improve in a dire need right now. Yes, the quarterback is a dire need for us, but we need so much, so much. just like Vic just said, why the fuck would we trade out of the first round when, and if we don't have the first round, you guys are saying to give up draft to get Mendoza makes no sense. Like we don't have.

speaker-0 (40:31.918)
Why would we give up draft picks? Oh, not that one. was the one about Tomlin. Why would you give a draft picks to bring in a coach when we've got so many goddamn holes to fill? You know, we can't afford to lose draft picks. We need more is what it is. I just I just don't see him. I like when I consider a value for a number one pick, it's somebody that I'm drafting is going to be put on the roster starting right away. A plug and play type of player.

Mendoza is not a plug and play. I'm sorry. He's not going to be starting week one unless he absolutely just blows everybody away. In preseason and just, know, from the first game goes out there and just has a freaking killer game and it just keeps going. A guy like a like a Caleb Downs or Bain or Reese, those are guys that are going to as soon as you sign, as soon as you draft them and you give that card up to the podium, guess what?

Get his ass on the plane back to Vegas. Start getting his sizes for his uniform for week one because he's going to be starting right away. You know those guys are going to start immediately because they're just that talented. Quarterback needs too much support to be effective. He needs a supporting cast. And if we don't have a supporting cast for a rookie first year number one overall pick, that's not value.

Defensive end doesn't need a massive supporting cast around him He's gonna go out there and do his thing whether he's one on two or one on one He's gonna get his job done somewhat in one way or another You know or a linebacker. He's gonna get his job done regardless Porta back if that support and cast is bad

It's be a bad sitcom.

speaker-1 (42:21.934)
No, and you know what you just said something so key right there, right? I'm not gonna say that he isn't can't be potentially a franchise guy Can he be that yeah? But am I gonna say that he's gonna come in right now because I'm gonna give you guys the facts Okay When he was at Cal and he didn't have all these stars around him Okay, because Indiana was built differently

Indiana had four and five year seniors on that team.

And they had a lot of guys that were under like, what is it? under value.

Mm-hmm.

Right? So he had a star-studded, he had grown ass men. He had a star-studded team playing with him. Now you're going to take him to the Raiders and put them with who to block for him. Who's going to catch the ball? Everybody says Brock Bowers. He can only catch so many passes. Doesn't have a number one receiver. Doesn't have a number two. I'll be like, things like that come into mind. I'll be like, but can you draft them? And again,

speaker-0 (43:29.602)
Martinez.

speaker-1 (43:37.186)
you draft them, you're going to have to put them on the bench. It's just like you said, Jeff. To me, he's not an instant starter. He's not a guy that's going to come in here. He's the best player on the roster, unfortunately. But if you put them out there, Jeff, with this roster, with this offensive line.

He's gonna crumble. He's gonna have a terrible, terrible, terrible time. And you know this.

You know, yeah, and you see it in the chats all the time too. Like I'm seeing it right now. They're like, well, we'll just get the offensive line. There's no guarantee. That's right. You have to understand too. We're not a desirable location. Okay. Right now we have no head coach. We don't know what the rest of the coaches staff is going to be. We have no idea. Even when the head coach comes in until he picks an OC, we don't even know what type of offensive system we're going to run. You don't have any clue on

any of that right now. So right now, priority one is the focus is on the head coach, the drafted, the number one pick's not going anywhere until draft day. Okay. So right now it's the head coach. Head coach is the most important thing that we need to really talk about or throw ideas around, talk it up, whatever. Free agency is the next thing, but there's no guarantee you're going to be able to get these guys in free agency that everybody wants. You know, yeah, it's

we can reach out to these players and hopefully throw bags at them. You know, like everybody wanted Linda bomb. So did I. want to lend Linda bomb in the worst way, throw a bag of money at him. But there's already rumors of him saying that he wants to follow Harbaugh to New York. So you're now going to compete with the Giants, not with the Ravens, because the Ravens don't have enough money. We can outbid them easily. OK, they may franchise him. Who knows? They may not.

speaker-0 (45:30.03)
Actually, I don't think they can because they didn't pick up this fifth. Yeah

speaker-0 (45:35.842)
They denied they turned down his fifth year, so something along that line, I thought. So now you're going to compete with the Giants instead. For that player, you know, there's other offensive linemen out there that may want to go to a different location where they'll have a better chance to make because everybody's goal is to win a Super Bowl. No toys about it. You know, so there's no guarantee we're going to get certain offensive linemen that we're looking for. We may end up have to just suck it up and deal with what we have on the roster now.

and added the guy or two in the draft. And even that, you still don't know fully what we're going to have. Now, yes, obviously the offensive line coaching during this past season hurt us more than anything. And that's been evident as to why, because of he wasn't doing his job. So the new coaches staff will have an effect on this offensive line for the good. Will they still be eligible

you know, able to stop and hold back players, who knows? And we don't have an easy schedule next year. That schedule is rough. I don't know if you looked at our.

it. that's why I'm saying Jeff if we draft a quarterback and we put Fernando Mendoza behind this offensive line right and we have all these things happening that's a recipe for disaster and then you're gonna have this young man come in there and have his freaking everything that he's built is gonna get fractured everything that he's put on the line

and everything, all his confidence is just gonna be fractured. So I'll just put it like that. I'll be like, we have to look at more things and people have to be open also to just seeing more things than just Fernando Mendoza. I get it. People are enamored saying, the franchise QB, franchise QB. But at the same time, I'm like, what we're doing is drafting potential. We're looking at the potential of him being a franchise QB.

speaker-1 (47:38.05)
How many QBs have been drafted in the first round that have not had success?

speaker-0 (47:45.932)
more than more well more than is more than success and have success

But and then is it because they go in there and they have these all like the guys that have success they have quality pieces around they have quality coaching they have quality players there. They have people there that are able to take advantage of what they can do.

Do we have all that in place yet? No. So we got to look at that. You have to give those guys all the ability in the world to be successful. In order for that to happen, there has to be more than just saying, hey, we're going to draft you at number one. And because you're the number one draft pick, you're going to change this organization.

speaker-0 (48:37.366)
Max for Tomlin and Pittsburgh's faith trust.

Hey, I'll tell you what Pittsburgh might take that

See, I don't agree with this either though. He's the most NFL ready QB in the last five years.

Jaden Daniels just came out. Did we not see what Jaden Daniels did last year? Are we not looking at what Drake May and Caleb Williams are doing this year? I'd be like, come on now, man. Come on.

I mean Drake May, obviously he got even better once McDaniel got there. As much as I hate to say it, McDaniel's, I fucking hate that fucker. That was the best thing that could have happened to that kid, because he had a phenomenal year this year. And I hate it every minute.

speaker-0 (49:28.738)
Yeah, see, and I didn't know someone else said you want AOC to start. I never said AOC to start. There's so many, there's other things we can do. I mean, everybody's just like, as soon as we miss out on Mendoza, it's like, there's no quarterbacks. Who says you can't take a quarterback later in this draft? There's no telling what can happen. Everybody's just, again, all they see is Mendoza, Mendoza, Mendoza. mean, how much of it is actually people watching him play?

and saying, yes, he's it, or just people following what everybody else is saying, Mendoza, Mendoza, because that's all you hear. I want to know.

How many people have done their research of more than one year of Fernando Mendoza? I'd be like, did you see the way that he played at Cal? Did you see what he did at Cal? Did you see how he moved in the pocket there? I'd be like, all these things.

I didn't know anything about him until this season started.

No, and then that's the thing. Everybody sees him at Indiana with this powerhouse team. You guys see my beautiful wife walking by? Yeah, she can't hear you.

speaker-0 (50:38.603)
I... she can't hear me.

speaker-1 (50:44.078)
But like I said, Fernando Mendoza, everybody's enamored what he did this season.

I'd be like, we need to see a body of work. We need to see really what this guy can do. So at the end of the day, until that all that happens, man, I'm being like, I don't want to hear about what he did this season. I don't want to hear about what he did this college playoff system. Because guess what? That's just part of the equation. You can't just out balance that with the whole rest of his last three years of what he didn't do at Cal.

What's up, Big Mutt?

speaker-1 (51:21.912)
Did he do this at Cal? Did he make them a championship team? Why did signetti make him a champion? What was it that made him successful in Indiana? Can we reproduce that in Las Vegas? Those are all questions that come to mind when I think about Fernando Mendoza.

speaker-0 (51:43.758)
Again, it's not how much money we have. It's whether people even want to come here. That's the problem.

Love it. You're talking about who's gonna block for who's gonna catch the football. We still got to get a number one and a number two receiver I'll be like, yeah if you're talking about a hundred million dollars in cap space and if we do go out and get a number one receiver That's 30 million dollars plus a year Right if we're talking about getting offensive line if we're talking about getting Tyler Lindemann, that's 20 million dollars

I'd be like, these numbers, I don't know how many people are going to fill this roster and how many free agents do we have this year?

21, think.

21 free agents we have a hundred million dollars, but we have 21 free agents to fill that with too

speaker-0 (52:37.228)
Yeah, but there's a lot of those we're not going to bring back.

No, no, I'm just saying, but those are roster spots. Those are 21 roster spots we have to fill with that money.

So I'll be like, I don't know.

We're gonna be going on the cheap again, too Which is why the extra draft picks would help too, especially early on you know, You know the roster and all line won't be the same you say The roster won't be the same the old line. I look at it this way So if you look at what's on this roster right now, so Colton Miller left tackle he'll be here JPJ Depending on where he plays he'll still be here Caleb Rogers will be here

Absolutely.

speaker-0 (53:19.458)
Grant will be here. DJ Glaze will be here, but at what capacity, we don't know. So if you take Glaze out of the equation, that's four guys. know JPJ's starting, Miller's starting. I think Caleb Rogers is definitely a start at the beginning of the season next year. I can't imagine him being relegated to a backup to start the season. I think you give Grant now another off season.

with a whole new coaching staff, new offensive line coach. I think there's your four new starters. Now all you need to do is either find a center or another guard, which means JPJ is either playing center or guard. Preferably, I'd rather have him at guard because I he's better used at guard. And I would put him on the left side. Strengthen your left side. You got Miller at left tackle, JPJ at left guard. You can lock that side down. And you just run gently off of that constantly.

and then occasionally off the weak side. Break it up. You know, Glaze regressed, but I blame that on the coaching. The whole offensive line regressed. know, Colt Miller was injured a good chunk of the year. We still need depth at offensive line. We need depth. We're going to need at least one or two guys to come in and push these guys to take their start jobs from. And I'll that that's a definite. But again, it's it's who we're looking at.

You know, know Neil, Devon Neil from the Giants is one that I was intrigued with. You know, but what's going to happen there now? Now that Harbowsley, now they got a coach there that these guys are probably going to want to go and play for, you know, and they're a young team on talent wise, like skill position and everything. They got a good defense, young defense, and as good as they were down the tail end of the season, Thibodeau still wasn't playing for them either. He was out injured. So you take Devon to a place and you throw him into that and they have a high

first round draft pick early first round draft pick. I go defense again or if not they go wide receiver or something. You know you got Malik neighbors over there you got second year quarterback coming back with dark you've got scatable you got Tracy. I mean they're right they did people I players would want to go and play for them why wouldn't they they're gonna do some damage in the NFC East because I think the Eagles are on their way down the Cowboys are gonna do cowboy things.

speaker-0 (55:44.748)
Redskins, who knows what's gonna happen with them now? know, Kubiak's Kingsbury's going now, so who's gonna take over his OC there? No.

Lots of questions, right?

We are not in a good spot.

And I'm going to tell you right now, Jeff, he's correct. Big luck. You're right. The roster will be different. The O line will be different, but then guess what? We're still going to have one problem. We still got to gel together. There still has to be continuity being built. There still has to, if you're bringing in new guys, right? You're bringing in new coaches. You're bringing in a new scheme. You're bringing in all these new things.

There has to be time and continuity. And I'll be like, at the end of the day, I'd be like, there is not very much patience in Raider Nation for that to happen. it'll be like, honestly, what can we expect, Jeff? Are you going to expect this team to come in and all of a sudden, hey man, we signed two offensive linemen and everything gets fixed? And a head coach and a, you know, we

speaker-1 (56:56.288)
All of a sudden, you know, we draft a couple of players in this defense, all of a sudden becomes shut out defense. mean, like we have linebackers all over the field. have corners all over the field. have an opposite side defensive, a defensive end of Max Crosby because you know, we drafted them too. And a D tackle. mean, like does that's kind of a big wish list, right?

You know, and Chewy, I get what you're saying, but in all honesty, remove the first two words out of that QB and the word and. Head coach is the main priority. Head coach, not QB right now. You know, head coach first, then your free agency, and then your QB. You know, especially if you're going to draft one. Head coach is a one, man. Why

was that?

And the other thing too is I'm here. Well, we're going to bring a guy in that can, that that's a good coach. That's good for, for Mendoza. You don't hire a coach based on a play. Especially one that you don't even have yet.

Well, that's the thing, right? They say, you've got to hire a coach based on a

speaker-0 (57:57.966)
coach for Max Crosby. That makes no sense. You need a head coach that's good for the team and the progress that you want to do going forward in the culture and everything that you want to do, not for a specific player because he's a because he's good for the Mendoza.

speaker-0 (58:17.048)
That blows my mind when I hear that. I'm not saying we be saying that, I've heard that elsewhere too. We're going to bring in a coach that's good for Mendoza tonight. No, you don't hire the coach based on who's going to be your potential quarterback.

Well, I

speaker-1 (58:30.188)
And here's the thing, right?

I don't want Mendoza.

Yeah.

Everybody's like, well, you know, we'll get Mendoza. What if he doesn't want him? What if he wants to bring, you know, offer a trade to bring someone else in? We have, you have no idea. You know, so now you're forcing the head coach and an offensive coordinator that's going to have to come up with a game plan that suits him best. Instead of what suits the team and the talent that you have, you can remember the talent we have on this roster right now. And that's what people forget. We've got very little talent, if any.

in skill positions on the offensive side. We need so much it isn't even funny but everybody's just so focused on that one player. That's what drives me nuts.

speaker-0 (59:19.118)
Hang on, we're at a crossroads with this organization. We've got two things, and I said this last week, are two things, a few things that have never happened to this organization before. We need a head coach and we have the number one overall pick in the draft. Okay. And we've got a hundred million in salary cap. We've never had all those combinations at the same exact time. This is a potential that set us up going forward for the future and set this

this team up right if it's done right. Meaning we bring in the coach that we know is going to help propel this team if we give him the right pieces to the puzzle. And with that, mean, don't just rely on picking that one player just because he's the best quarterback in this draft. Talent wise, I don't even think he's the number one overall period in this draft. There's at least three players I can name right now that I think it definitely bona fide number one picks and not him.

But he's number one for us because we need a quarterback.

Let me ask you this, And this is where my question comes. Because we're talking like people are saying he's a franchise QB.

If he came out the same draft that Jaden Daniels, Drake May, and who was the number one pick that year?

speaker-0 (01:00:45.826)
What, Jaden Daniels was?

No, he was the number two pick by the commanders.

it Caleb Williams.

and Caleb Williams came out, would he be the number one draft pick?

There was those two, they were the first two.

speaker-1 (01:01:02.55)
No, but I'd be like, would Fernando Mendoza? he came out that same year and we're talking franchise guys.

You're also talking a couple of years ago and everything that that's I don't necessarily agree when people start going back saying, well, would you be the number one in this draft of that draft? mean, he'd only hadn't even had a full year of starting college beyond, you know what mean?

Even with this season, even with the season that he had this year. The reason I say that is because right now, honestly, I feel like we're really enamored with this guy because this draft is such a quarterback depleted draft.

And it's a quarterback-driven league.

Mm-hmm.

speaker-1 (01:01:48.739)
Yeah.

I don't miss a bunch of chats, but I'm like almost 15 minutes behind on the chat. So I'm just, I skip a lot of it. I am so sorry guys. If I missed your chats, your messages, folks, I apologize. I try my best to get to everybody, but when I got to stop and talk and it's just usually if the third guy's here, we get another guy in here talking. So it kind of gives me a chance to zip through a chat a little bit faster. Why are you scared Draftford into a number one?

Nobody's saying that we're scared to draft Fernando number one.

Yeah, but see, is the other thing though. If it doesn't work out, then now we're gonna have people saying, see, we shouldn't have done that. And I'm gonna be one of them. I'm like, this is why I didn't wanna take quarterback with number one. It's not that I'm scared. I'm not scared. I just know in my mind, in my thought process, when I look at this team and how bad we've been, one guy is not going to fix the problem.

I'm sorry. And if I'm wrong, I'll be the first to admit it. All right, everybody else in the world was right and I'm the lone one that was wrong. I will take, I will eat crow and I will stick up for what I say till the day I die. That's why I didn't want to do it. And I will, I will admit it. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But right now that's just my personal feeling. I just don't think that's the right move. You know?

speaker-1 (01:03:17.75)
And for me, I'm going to tell you like this. I'm not scared of drafting Fernando Mendoza. What I'm saying is that if we draft Fernando Mendoza, we have to have the right situation for him to have success. I'd be like, it's not like we're sitting here saying, we don't want Fernando Mendoza. If Fernando Mendoza can come in here and make a great change and start getting W's, we're more than happy to have them on this team. But the problem is we look at it and we say that

He's just part of the solution. He isn't the solution. He's a part of it. Can we agree with that,

Yeah.

question if we don't draft Mendoza who do we get at the QB certainly in that it again a so if we don't draft Mendoza it doesn't mean that in later rounds you can't draft a Trinidad Chambliss you can't draft another guy that the coach does that like that the coach likes what we're saying is again hey all depends on what he has around him to be successful

We want Mendoza to come in here and be successful. We see that this team needs more pieces around them in order for that to happen. And if he comes in here and starts as the number one draft pick, we see him having no success because the team isn't ready for him. It's just that plain and simple.

speaker-1 (01:04:52.878)
some positions we don't have a number two. You could argue that we are better off at comparing other positions. We don't have a number one at certain positions, Jeff.

But he's still not wrong. He's not wrong.

Yeah, we don't have a number one. Hey coach, you right. We don't have a number one or number two.

We have no depth. had no depth during the season because our depth was on the field already. Whether it be for injury or the jumbling around bullshit we were doing with the offensive line and everything else and flop, flip flop and YBC was in and out. This guy scratched this week. this guy's going to start at left guard this week. And next year, know, day before the game, both be scratched. Everybody got excited. Caleb Rogers was going to start one week and then comes the weekend. It's like, no, healthy scratch. I'm like, what the fuck?

They started telling me Trey Tucker and people were trying to sell me Trey Tucker as a number one option.

speaker-0 (01:05:50.136)
they still do. Some people still do. It's crazy.

Dude, guys, develop, okay? McDermott is the best.

I don't Arnie's been asking a million questions on it. There's no way I'm getting to all your questions tonight, brother. I am so sorry

He a lot of good ones too man, I like Arnie's questions. He's so smart.

speaker-0 (01:06:29.502)
the haven't even talked about anything that's going on this weekend. So, Will, I'm to let you have this opportunity. So maybe the chat will calm down for a little bit so I can get through it. There's something big going on this weekend, if I'm not mistaken.

Man. All right guys. Hey, so give me one second here. I'm gonna pull up all the information here. We got Tom Flores is having a thing at Tom's Watts parties all over the place I'll be like you're gonna have these all over the country guys If you guys have a Tom's make sure that you get in contact I know that there are some black hole chapters as well doing it at their local locations guys This is a great opportunity to meet Tom Flores

He's having a really tough time right now if you guys don't know and if you guys don't know who Tom Flores is He is the first Latino quarterback for the Raiders He's also the first Latino coach and a Super Bowl winning coach for the Raiders And if you guys happen to go to all these events, hey, I know that Mike Haynes will be in Denver We got here in Sacramento. We're gonna have Markham Byron. Well Mario Salote

Mervin Fernandez, you'll see super fans at all these events. They're gonna have them in Las Vegas They're gonna have them everywhere. So guys make sure that you guys take the opportunity to go to Tom's or hook up with your local booster club That's having this watch party because it's gonna be one that you don't want to miss man. It's gonna be a legendary watch party and it's Great Jeff. I'll be like how many times do you hear that word? Especially nowadays

that event already went down.

speaker-0 (01:08:15.608)
So.

So a stream is going to start at 1 p.m. The doors open at 11.

This is going to be at one o'clock. It's going to be a live virtual stream on YouTube. So you're going to have people checking in from all these different locations across the country with tributes to Tom Flores. So keep an eye out on X, Twitter, YouTube. As soon as we get a link, we'll make sure it's posted. I'll post it. We'll have it posted up and we'll be sharing it around.

So if you guys wanna check it out, look for it, for sure.

speaker-0 (01:09:03.992)
So that's this Saturday. So don't miss it.

Yeah, man, it's crazy. When I saw that event go up and I was like three, I was like, man, that's insane, especially at all the times locations that they're trying to have players there. They're trying to have people signing stuff. So make sure that you guys get out there, take your stuff, man, especially with your local booster clubs.

speaker-0 (01:09:35.022)
You just have one pick in the draft. think you should also need a new...

speaker-0 (01:09:45.378)
Yeah, because he's talking about what you said earlier, if he was in the draft with them. And I agree with that. Sometimes that's tough to compare. mean, again, that was two years ago.

No, but and that's why we said I'm like it's a quarterback to play the draft

If you want to compare them against guys that would have come out this year, but elected to go back. You know what I mean? Then that could be a little bit different. You know, the guys that are going to play into the year of college, but didn't come out in this draft because that's level playing field at that point, because they both played in the same. You know the same time frame basically, you know, like what's his name? No more from Oregon. You know he's he going. He's going back. You know if he came out, where would that put him in the ranking? You know, I know.

get what you're saying. I guess the way I was saying is this,

that Mendoza, you know?

speaker-1 (01:10:39.082)
But the way I say it like this, I'm like, do you look at it? Because if you look at him as a franchise guy, in any draft, he should be considered something solid, right? I mean, like a first rounder, at least.

That'd be the best player on the team if we're using the number one pick on them.

speaker-1 (01:11:01.294)
Hey, don't be saying we should pick somebody else number one. saying, Hey, you can, you have to draft them. You draft.

I get the answer on this question that Ani just posted. I got the best positive answer on this one. Because if we draft him, that means his parents will be all the games, and that means his hot, sexy aunt will be at the games.

my gosh, bruh.

I'll get to see her every home game because you know the camera will be like all their mom and dad all missed on

Hey, if you guys see Jeff on the back of a milk carton, you know what happened. Don got him.

speaker-0 (01:11:37.294)
I'm going

Hey, but I'm gonna say this Arnie the thing is with me I will say this

In 1983 you might be right, but I'm gonna say like this I have questions on Mendoza just because of the system that he was in it was a one read system I Really never saw him make more than one read and in that game versus Miami I saw college corners Baiting this guy into that throw where he made those reads and he made some

some throws that he probably shouldn't have made. Did he win the game? Yes. But did he make some throws that were questionable? Absolutely. So my question comes to how well does he read the field?

You know, and that's where I question that. I can say, hey, I haven't seen this guy go through his second, third, fourth progression.

speaker-0 (01:12:45.774)
That's why I don't see the whole he's pro ready thing that everybody keeps saying

speaker-1 (01:13:03.84)
if you're

I don't know. It's my opinion. That's just the way I feel. Some people don't like it. It's like the political stance nowadays. It's like, my opinion, you have yours type of thing. And if you don't agree with me, then just agree to disagree and move on. But some people, man, they take it to an extreme. It's like, OK.

speaker-0 (01:13:31.31)
I'm sorry if that's that's way I look at it, you know

So Jeff, let me ask you this, is it because we're starving for a quarterback?

Gino, that's the other thing. People keep putting words in my mouth. I've never mentioned Gino's name in all of this. I don't want him here anymore. And I never said to let AOC stop. That's up to the GM to figure out what he's gonna do. And the coach, if that's not the move we make with Mendoza, then it's up to them. And we gotta deal with it. You know?

it's funny because i look at this

have to deal with the fact that if we've dropped Mendoza number one, I'm gonna sit here and take it. I'm not gonna, what am I gonna do? Not be a fan? I didn't like the move last year with Genty and it wasn't because of Genty and his talent, it's because the offensive line was gonna be shit and I called it early on and I was right all throughout the entire season that the offensive line was the problem. Little did I know it was the coach, not so much the players but...

speaker-1 (01:14:28.046)
So I'll say this, nobody said that we should keep Gito. Why is it that we only got to draft Mendoza? It's like literally everybody just says, it has to be Mendoza. OK, tell me another player that we're going to draft in this draft to address another issue. Because I mean, if you're really telling me that Fernando Mendoza is the only solution at quarterback for this team,

Mm-hmm.

I'm like, that's a one in a million shot, Jeff. We could slice this thing several different ways. It depends on what the coordinator's looking for. I'd be like, if Kubiak doesn't like him, then we go with somebody else. But it's all whoever the coach and the GM want. And if it's not Mendoza, we got to be with that.

speaker-0 (01:15:19.502)
And I got to disagree with Rick.

It's that defense. It's that defense. not watch that. People not watch. This is the thing. Okay. I have to watch these games, right? Because I live in Colorado. So I'm always watching football and you got to watch for freaking donkeys because it's right around the Raider game. Well, this defense is for real. Bo Nix was an added bonus for the Broncos. He's the guy that brought them over.

If we had a defense like that, then drafting Fernando Mendoza makes absolute sense because we had an absolute the number one defense in the league.

That's what Denver is. Then you can say, yeah, you have a strong team, but tell me that that we have the number one defense in the league.

No, were we even top 28 or 25? No.

speaker-0 (01:16:21.174)
we finished, but I doubt it.

So then I mean like come on man. I mean like that's what makes the difference You see nobody's saying that Mendoza's a Superman or anything like that

the thing. They are basically saying like he's the

Exactly, I agree with you Jeff. We're making Mendoza's like the savior of the Raider.

chat tonight that he's the guy, he's gonna come in and cook, he's gonna be the chef, he's gonna light shit up. And don't say no, because I'll scroll back through and find them all. Because it's been said multiple times tonight that he's the man, he's the man, he's gonna do this, he's gonna do that, he's gonna light the world on fire, he's gonna save the world. You see him pick up that school bus and move it off those kids? That's basically what they're saying. So.

speaker-0 (01:17:09.87)
I'm saying that piece of the way he's the savior. The guy is here.

That's what I'm saying. I'm like we can't make this guy out to be that which could be in this draft is better than Mendoza Arnie there is no other QB better than Mendoza But what we're saying is that the reason is because this is a quarterback depleted draft I mean like if you're looking at other things I'm right Trinidad Chamberlain ain't no scrub either

I would take Chambliss over him. Not at number one, before anybody crucifies me, not at number one. That would be if we trade back from number one. Say we trade with the Jets, we move back and we get their two first rounders this year or first rounder next year. I would take a fly on Chambliss in like the second, you know, if he still.

Second third round. Yeah

I could take a shot at him because you know what? You could have something there. I think he's more talented than Mendoza. I'm sorry.

speaker-1 (01:18:11.054)
I think that kid's a hidden gem. I think that kid's a hidden gem.

I so too.

speaker-1 (01:18:19.15)
We got free agency and nine other picks. sure we can add talent to the team. I'm sure we can, but you better hit on those draft picks.

We can't do what we did last year where we drafted and then we got guys that just couldn't amount to shit. only one, all right, Gentie, yes, worked out obviously, because he's just a talented kid. Porter, I think is gonna be fine. I'm not worried about him. Betch didn't get enough play time, not really all on him. But when he was out there, he caught pretty much anything that came anywhere within his arms reach. The kid was good. Do I think he's number one material? No.

Thornton, I don't think he had enough experience coming out of college, honest with He had 25 catches this senior year in college. He had just about the same amount of catches this year on the pros. We need more earlier round picks is what we need to do. We need more guys that we know, like your first, second, third rounders and sometimes your fourths.

especially early fourth rounders should all be starters or at least making the roster and be contributing in some factor. You know, not riding the bench most of the season like you had with Porter. He didn't really get a lot of chances early in the season until later on. Rogers and Grant, you know, I thought for sure Caleb Rogers was going to be starting by the bye week. Man, I was way off on that one. You know?

You know what this comment right here makes the most complete sense We cannot start him right away. I would love for him to hold the clipboard This right here. I can agree with if you draft Fernando Mendoza number one You don't put him in there. You don't put them to the fire. You say hey, man You know what we're gonna let you sit on the bench We're gonna have another guy come in here get beat up and show you the ropes

speaker-1 (01:20:24.536)
Jeff, I think that's a great move if we are looking at drafting Fernando Mendoza and a lot of the issues are not addressed. I mean like,

And I would we should be we should be a heavy running game for us. We have to. Yeah, we have to. It's the only way you're going to keep pressure off of him if he's the guy. It's the only way you're going to keep pressure off him because. They're here keep flinging the ball. Defenses are just you're to look at just in our own division alone between the charges, the Broncos and the Chiefs. You're talking about three.

That's why I like Coobia!

speaker-0 (01:21:04.556)
three really good defenses again on toughest division in the NFL outside of probably the AFC NFC West right now is dead.

They just need the charges just got better Mike McDaniels becoming their offensive coordinator is a big boost in the arm I'll be like the Chargers just got better. We got to compete We got to control the clock. We got to run the football play good defense

Hey, what's up, Bueno? I even see you drop in here. I'm sorry, bro.

speaker-0 (01:21:38.134)
Yeah, hell no. Pickens intrigues me, he just comes with baggage. think overall, yeah, think he's, I think, in my opinion, I think he's the top free agent wide receiver out there. But if you want to bring in a guy that could help groom these other kids, Evans from Tampa wouldn't be a bad move. I know he's older, but he's a lot more stable. Then you go.

dollars.

speaker-1 (01:22:05.58)
No

Pierce from Indy. There's one other I thought I heard too. There's another name. I don't have the list in front of me. I don't feel like looking it up right now.

the

Chef's a party.

speaker-0 (01:22:40.226)
you

speaker-1 (01:22:46.712)
man. But let me ask you this, Jeff. Why is it that right now you feel like,

that this coaching this coaching search has been different. What what in your opinion has been so much different for you from your point of view?

For what? I'm sorry, I missed.

or this coaching search you talked to me earlier about this coaching search and how it's different. What have you noticed in this coaching search that you've seen that's different that really stands out to you?

Yeah, the past years that we've been looking for a coach, we've got a lot of experience with that, but just not good decisions. No, it seems like they're not jumping the gun, like I said earlier, they're taking their time, you know, they're bringing... How often have you seen in the past when we've brought guys back for second interviews?

speaker-1 (01:23:42.862)
I don't remember that.

You know, multiple phone calls, you know, they go down the Miami for the national championship game. They meet Mike McDaniel down there, you know, they're doing their due diligence. You know, they're not just like, we want this guy and this guy only. They're looking around what fits best with their vision going forward with this organization. Not necessarily a guy that they can bring in that they know can.

coach a certain player or run a certain scheme. No, it's what's best for the organization going forward. What's going to put us in the right direction? What type of coach is going to come here that's going to be able to draw players, which we thought was going to happen with Pete Carroll because of the respect he had in the NFL that players would want to come here. Yeah, players came here, but they were all, you know, basically geriatric for the most part, or they just sucked like Kappa, Forsythe, you know, it's

You need someone that's going be able to attract players that's going to be not just attract players to fill Rossi spots, but attract players that are going to contribute and do something for this team going forward. And that's one thing that I felt that we didn't do last year. You know, we didn't bring in enough players that helped us progress. We regressed. We lost. We won one game less than the year before. And that was with.

a rookie head coach. put up four wins versus Pete Carroll, who's a seasoned veteran head coach, Super Bowl winner, national college championship winner. And he gets one win less. He finishes the season with three wins. The guy the year before, first time head coach ever gets four wins.

speaker-1 (01:25:34.67)
Hmm.

No, I get what you're saying.

They're doing their homework. And that's why I've been saying you have to have patience with this. And yeah, it may feel like coaches are falling by the wayside. Options are starting to thin out. know, Joe Brady's off the list now. So you can forget him. know, Dayball's off the list. But when they're signed on as an OC, they're technically not off the list yet. Because you can still talk to them and still possibly pull them away from where they're going to be. It's happened before.

You've seen it happen to us.

himself. Yeah, it happened was Bill Belichick did it himself. know, when he was going to be the Jets head coach, and then resigned on a napkin walk down and went to New England. You know, so even a head coach, whether he's on that, whether he's with that team or not, he could turn around and say, you know what, I'm taking the job in Vegas. Or it can happen to us. We go ahead and hire someone.

speaker-0 (01:26:38.698)
And before the final decision is made, he's like, nah, I'm not taking that job. I'm going to stay where I'm at instead.

And you're right. And that's where people got to look at that and say, man, I'd be like, it's interesting because it's almost like you said, we want to put the car before the horse, right? Because everybody wants Mendoza. What I'm going to say something controversial is shit and giggle. You don't want to draft Mendoza, then you're done with Isoma.

I I'm.

speaker-0 (01:27:08.811)
You

speaker-0 (01:27:13.006)
the Seahawks. Seahawks. I live in New England. Patriots.

See Hux. What? There's no number one QB that you draft that you say there's a franchise guy. He will put this winning play 90. Who?

in this drought.

speaker-0 (01:27:32.12)
He's going to be talking about Fernando.

Let's be a Jeff. How many times did you see Fernando Mendoza audible? How many times did you see him audible?

I don't know.

He doesn't audible very much. They run RPO.

Here we go.

speaker-1 (01:27:52.142)
three

Everybody's gonna start saying it now because I said that earlier the superhero thing

Yeah, so he was, he got denied. Now he, James needs a six year to prove himself. Hey, how many years was Fernando Mendoza in college?

speaker-0 (01:28:17.102)
I think this shows four.

Isn't he in the same boat as Chambliss where he's been, I think he was like a super senior?

He wasn't part of the 2020 COVID season, so he doesn't get any extra time.

Hmm. Because I know that if you read shirt, you get that 50 or senior option.

speaker-0 (01:28:46.51)
All right, and are you gonna do if we outplays Mendoza and becomes the starter permanently? That's what I'm saying. You don't know what we're gonna get you don't know what these who would have thought Brock Purdy perfect example would have turned into what he turned into Tom Brady by the luck of the draw he gets picked where he gets picked and Bledsoe gets hurt Brady enters and the rest is history for them for 20 years of it bullshit now that fucking five years bad and now they're

Super Bowl bound.

the

This one kills me.

How does this guy know that he's gonna be a good practice squad guy? So Chambers is the hidden gem but Shadoura is trash, right? You raiders ferns.

speaker-0 (01:29:44.767)
I never said should always trash first of all, so.

I guess the door should have been a first round draft pick. that what is this guy saying? I'd be like.

He was passed on for five rounds or four rounds, so.

Like what? let me guess they're gonna say should yours go into the Pro Bowl Yeah, they're going to Pro Bowl Okay, that's a popularity contest, bro

It's so bad.

speaker-1 (01:30:13.548)
I want to see that he's all pro.

speaker-1 (01:30:19.736)
These bad people are crazy. This is why I agree, Rick. I think Kubiak is a great coordinator with the run game. I love that he goes that West Coast offense.

They were pretty balanced this weekend too.

Yeah, and it's a great balance to have with the rookie quarterback. That's the way you want to go.

We cannot compete with the top-match quarterback and I am fine with these six, four, eight games. He needs to sit the whole year.

Yeah, if he sits the whole year, I'm good with that too.

speaker-0 (01:30:53.218)
What's up, manual? What's going on my guy? What's up? Food crash? What's up my guy? And those are best QB we got. He starts. I believe those are as better QB than car was coming out and he started.

speaker-1 (01:31:14.402)
Mendoza was a car was a second round draft pick for a reason,

don't see that either with the receivers from there either. The only one is, what the hell's the kid's name? Sarat? Right? Sarat? Sarat? Ali Kimbela, if you're gonna take any receiver from that team, it be him.

Because Omar Cooper reminds me of too close in the name to Omari Cooper.

You

That's the first thing I saw when first saw the kids' names. I saw Ova Cooper out there and I'm like, nah, nah, nah. It reminds me of Omari.

speaker-1 (01:31:48.653)
No.

speaker-1 (01:31:56.62)
You know what though Jeff? You said something on one of our past shows. Hey, Omari was smart man. He saw the writing on the wall. He lasted there a week and he said, nah, I'd rather retire.

Yeah, yeah, two days before just before the team got on the plane to fly to New England.

I'm out guys have a safe trip see ya I'm going home. He was the smartest player on that team with the shortest tenure. walked in the door like a revolving door walked in saw the shit shows. Bye.

I'm gonna

This is gonna be a shit show.

speaker-1 (01:32:27.8)
Yep.

speaker-1 (01:32:35.66)
I'm gonna walk right back out.

Felix by tech and ready to talk to Kubiak's agent let him know I Mean we can come to a date suppose that we can come to an agreement that we're gonna hire

Like one of the only teams that can.

speaker-0 (01:32:57.966)
It's supposed to do with us having a hidden coach in the game. I don't know.

speaker-1 (01:33:05.454)
Yeah, you ain't lying. We tried to bring Cooper. He said deuces,

speaker-0 (01:33:17.324)
Yeah, we're here, Sue. How you doing, Sue? Welcome in.

healthy is a must. Doses 22. Yeah, see, so he's only four years, three years.

Okay.

speaker-0 (01:33:34.778)
Did you see that there was a bullshit thing put out just the other day about the whole mock Cuban offered him like 36 million to state Indiana for one more year? Like if that was only true

If that was true, do you really think Fernando Mendoza would have came out?

No, I just saw that, I'm like, yeah, that's bullshit.

I would literally been like, okay, man, he's going to make more money on his furt on his $36 million in one year than he does almost his whole rookie. His whole rookie year contract.

Yeah.

speaker-0 (01:34:11.158)
It's gonna make people regret not taking him

my gosh.

I don't think he's that good. You render fans trash the hell out of your door. Now you complain about Mendoza, quit crying and get your damn quarter pack. You raider fans trash the hell out of your

Don't worry.

I'm not complaining about Mendoza. I'm just...

speaker-1 (01:34:38.092)
And then what door are we trashed?

All right, I guess I need to set the record straight again because I've said this I don't know how many damn times I It's not that I have a problem with Mendoza. I just don't agree with him as the number one overall pick

I just don't. Now, again, and I've said this, too, if we do address the offensive line and free agency, because there's no guarantee we can. But if we do and we get the right guys in here that we know can protect and help this offensive line going forward, then by all means, go get the fucking kid. OK, I will be all on board with it. But if we can't address an offensive line.

and free agency and bringing at least one or two veterans that we know are going to be able to help and not guys like Kappa and Forsyte that I know are going to be able to do the job and do the job well enough to support this kid. Again, part of his supporting cast, because the supporting cast is garbage right now on this team. Then I'm all for it. Get the right guys in there in front of him. Protect him. It'll help the running game. Help the running game. You help your quarterback.

no matter who's

speaker-0 (01:35:48.866)
Joe Schmo from down the street who walked in, had a tryout and they loved him. Or if it's Mendoza or if it's Will decides to fly to Vegas to try out for quarterback and they're like, you're the man. You're gonna stop for us. That's gonna make you look like a superstar. Okay, I'm fine with the kid. I'm not questioning his ability to play the game. I just don't think he's the right fit and I don't think he's a number one overall based on talent.

Go to the Super Bowl.

speaker-0 (01:36:18.306)
This guy's in his draft at a more talented in different positions than a quarterback being unfortunately Mendoza because he's the highest ranked quarterback in this draft. And that's one of our blaring needs as a quarterback. get it. So I'm not shitting on Mendoza and not saying that he can't play the game. I just don't think he's the right fit for us at this time.

Damn!

clip that.

Trash the hell out. All right, that's he said you reader fans trash the hell out of seeing this now You're complaining about me and there was a quick finding it you damn quarterback And I said the same thing last year about Shadoor. I was never on board with him from the get-go. I I thought the hype was too much because of the name. I didn't think he was that good I'm sorry. I in that case. I don't think it was that I think it was talent wasn't that good I don't think his talent was that great at all

Never on both.

speaker-1 (01:37:13.442)
think Travis Hunter covered up lot of his flaws and having a team like that built around him at every stop in college, Bates should draw his draft stock that much more weaker as a quarterback.

How much did Travis Hunter help him too?

That's what I'm saying. I'm like, that's why I'm like, he covered up a lot of his mistakes. He covered up. I'd be like, if I watched CU football, bro, like, Hey, look, look at the shirt, Jeff. says, see you run, run, run, bro. We watched the games.

I'm telling you right now, I'm like, should you or did it from having a big team around them?

No, coach.

speaker-1 (01:37:58.614)
No, Sirot did not look good.

Yeah, you made the full ball. What can you say? be a public- I'm not being a fucking hater, dude.

I said it. He made the Pro Bowl a... The Pro Bowl is a popularity contest. Stop acting like the Pro Bowl is like the All-Pro

the super bowl. He made it. **** man. Look at God and Minch who made the Pro Bowl a couple of what? Yeah, like year, two years ago or whatever but he made it as an alternate and he was like the sixth option as an alternate. So, yeah and he'll let forever be known as a pro bowler in that year because you know, two other guys were playing in the one was playing in the Super Bowl. This guy was hurt during the season. So, by default, he makes the Pro Bowl.

You know, it's a watered down version. Thank God they still don't play the actual football game because. Talk about watered down version. I mean, you you go to the Pro Bowl to watch these guys play. You're expecting all the real superstars and then you go on to Minshew starting for the AFC. What you know?

speaker-1 (01:39:02.807)
It's like the NBA All-Star team now. It's all just a freaking popularity contest. like, it's not, is, but he's being picked by his peers.

try the ultra-teens

Because you're picked by your people. Yeah.

See Jared, Saddam, O'Connell, Jimmy Garoppolo, Brian Hoy, Ganda, Minshew, Aiden O'Connell, Desmond Rana. He had listed O'Connell twice, but that's okay. Geno Smith, Kenny Pickett, you guys want a defensive end or left tackle, okay?

speaker-1 (01:39:38.094)
Hey, we're not saying that any of these guys were quality picks. What we're saying is that this team isn't ready for Fernando Mendoza.

speaker-0 (01:39:50.318)
Fucking coach, I wish I had pulled a Marri, my senior high school on my football team.

Eee!

speaker-0 (01:40:03.298)
And if C cell shall rise again. you mean the division where nobody could decide if they want that a winner or not until one team lost and by default someone get in?

Hey, man, the Panthers, the only thing I remember about the Panthers is that home opener last year where they fucking came in here with the red rifles, banked our.

the

I want us to do an all-black uniform.

that would be so dope. Black on black.

speaker-0 (01:40:33.038)
Well, I want one game. Imagine how much merchandise they'd sell like that, man. If you change the design up on the shirts, you know.

You're a

Mini helmets in black you would sell? Or real authentic style helmets?

Well, on black on black uniform for the Raiders that it would sell like hotcakes.

like your day's ending.

speaker-0 (01:40:58.252)
I think people is number one priority over everything else social media star rap here. They don't believe it's gonna make us regret not taking them till that happens will be trash

Thank you coach, I agree with that.

805 is sticking up for me here. Don't worry, Jeff. can say I have a problem with those are at number one. can yell at me. They already yell at me anyway, so I don't really care.

And I mean, it gets funny because we're not saying again that Mendoza is not a good player. We're saying that he's just not the right fit for the Raiders at this time.

Yeah, he retires after he left here and went to New Orleans for two years. Who do you think is worth passing on Mendoza for? trading the pick away, first of all.

speaker-1 (01:41:47.054)
If we were to pass up on Mendoza and we say, will tell you like this, Bane.

I would take bang so that way we could match them up opposite side of Max Crosby. And you're going to have a 272 pound defensive end.

back in mall people. And he's actually, he almost reminds me more of a Khalil Mack. If you remember when Khalil Mack came out, he was built thicker than a snicker. And I'd be like, he's kind of has the same body build. He has the same hands. And I'd be like, bro, how do you see that?

that's good

The snicker, the nisnicker

speaker-0 (01:42:31.054)
care.

Ha ha!

I just tell you man

All I got from Jeff, from what Jeff said is he hates Mendoza.

man.

speaker-0 (01:42:46.158)
there are zero generation of plays to trade down

Whoa whoa whoa, Bane is- Bane could be that guy!

speaker-1 (01:42:55.574)
Roan Man.

I-I-I-I-

I think they're more generational than a quarterback. I'm sorry.

And the funny thing is I remember everybody last year saying, if we don't get a quarterback, 2026 is going to be a great year for quarterbacks. That's the year. Now they're already saying 2027 is going to be even better. I'm never on that kick, wait until the next year type of thing. Like, oh, they're going to be better next year. Let's, you know, and that's the other thing you hear. Oh, 2027 is going to be so much better. Yeah. You know why? Because of one person and his last goddamn name. That's the only reason.

then you're going to have guys come out like more next year. If Chambliss stays, he's going to get another year under his.

speaker-1 (01:43:40.622)
No, he's not saying they already denied it

Well, they denied it, but he's a P.O.

Dude, he's not gonna get it. He's going.

Raiders have no talent, but I hear your mom's got a lot of it.

speaker-1 (01:44:07.732)
Exactly, I don't see anybody.

who's a tight end, not a wide receiver.

That's that's a great freaking argument against yourself who do the Raiders have no

Tim Brown ain't gonna miraculously show up and be

Hey, Trey Tucker. Trey Tucker's the number one. Don't you talk about Trey Tucker like that,

speaker-0 (01:44:29.688)
The speedy midget that could not jump anybody because he's so small.

born who's tall as can be as tall as a fucking beanstalk but he doesn't have the strength to out-muscle anybody for a ball that's a fucking jump ball. Good luck! He's got little fucking toothpick arms.

speaker-0 (01:44:50.567)
They like the size of my two fingers. What the fuck, Guys, have you seen his calves? Holy shit.

Yeah, right here. Hey, Sanders was selected. Let them know why why Sanders was selected to the Pro Bowl Jeff. Let them know. I'd be like Laker nation. Do your fact checking. This is why because he somebody else turned it down.

Thanks to that guy

speaker-0 (01:45:19.436)
Because of Miles Garrett. Yeah, but I thought Drake may not going in though too. Because he's playing in the Super Bowl, so that opened up quarterback slot right there.

speaker-0 (01:45:32.11)
Yeah, it's so stupid.

The problem was black football 100%. The right is far from the exception, Lake Jerry.

Yeah, there it is. He reverted it again. Sanders was selected in the polls as Miles Garrett turned it down.

speaker-0 (01:45:50.626)
They were coming to the bowl ball as an alternate, but I don't hear anybody trash him. What's the difference? Just like, I never trashed him. I never even, what's your point? I don't get it.

Eric Khan made the Provo as an alternate, but I don't hear anybody trashing him.

Derrick Carr also had some playoff wins there, bud. And he had winning seasons.

When did he go in as an alternate?

Was he an alternate after he had already left us, but he was still picked in the Pro Bowl?

speaker-1 (01:46:26.392)
I don't know, I think it was the year before that. Cause he was still a raider.

Well, I think this is your participated in that pro bowl as a radar because he was still technically on our roster.

Yeah, I think it was the year we got the Bonte.

Cause I think he went that year with the Vonte Adams, right?

I don't remember now. I'd have to look it up. I honestly don't remember. I do know that when he was in the Pro Bowl, after we knew we weren't bringing him back, he lit it the fuck up in the skills. Sort of like, because that was the one in Vegas. That was the Pro Bowl in Vegas. It was kind of like a, fuck you. He lit it like he

speaker-1 (01:47:07.564)
No, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you're

speaker-0 (01:47:14.006)
Was it that one?

He went to the Pro Bowl four times bro. He went 2015 through 2017 and then 2022.

speaker-1 (01:47:28.28)
So he has four times, he's a four time pro bowler.

Yeah.

speaker-0 (01:47:37.367)
I so...

the the

No, I haven't heard of anything like I haven't heard of a second interview though. I think we did like virtual him and shula

speaker-1 (01:48:08.974)
hope you guys like the writers writing QB.

I mean, in all honesty, mean, look, if you if we go by.

If you look at our roster right now at quarterback, because obviously we're not going to probably trade for a quarterback. So it's going to be somebody that's already on the roster now. And with that being said, you're looking at Gino Pickett. Well, Pickett's a free agent. No, and ALC 12. Those are your two options right now. That's all we have. So unless we trade for somebody that's a backup that we think coming in stock.

You know, you got to go with either one of those two as of right now. And it's not like that's who I want. It's just being realistic. That's who's on our roster right now. That's under contract for at least another year a piece. So it's not like I'm sitting there saying this is who it has to be. Realistically, that's who it's going to be right now until something else is done. So again, you have to look at everything as the roster sits right now as we're talking.

because there's no guarantee the roster is gonna change going forward. We have no freaking clue. You don't know what's gonna change between now and.

speaker-1 (01:49:28.224)
My first question would be instead of who do you guys want to start in QB to be is who do you guys want as head coach? Because that's who's really going to be the guy that's going to decide that. I'm like, whoever is the head coach is going to come in here and say, Hey, this is the guy that you need. This is the guy I want to coach. So instead of being like, who do we see as a QB of this team? We need to say, who do we see as the head coach of this team?

speaker-1 (01:49:58.242)
Well, big luck, I agree.

But that's you got again, you're look at what's on the roster right now the season gonna start right now. You'd have no choice We have no idea unless you've got a crystal ball and you can foresee the future that this is what's gonna happen comes then Why is everybody so negative on everything tonight? Why why is nobody just see I? Don't get it

So I'm gonna ask Chewy this. I'm gonna ask Chewy this.

How much better is Fernando Mendoza than Gino Spada?

How much better is he?

speaker-1 (01:50:36.622)
I'm like, is he going to come in here and all of a sudden, just because he's here, the whole culture is going to change?

You're not gonna like the answer they're gonna give. Well, that's a bad question.

No, I'd be like, they're going to say, yeah, he's far superior because he had this guy played in the NFL. This guy. Yeah. He's had a pro bowl. He's had all these things that we keep talking about, but at the same time, I'm like, we got to be real with it. We don't have the coaching.

I'm going to show you why you're not going to like the answer. ready for this? So big luck. This Bain is better than Mack was in college. Okay. That's a legit take. All right. I respect this take. Trading the pick would be incredibly stupid. Bain has short arms and the tackles from old, old miss worked him. All right. There's another take. Here's my favorite.

speaker-1 (01:51:38.094)
Hey, hey, so hey So you're gonna tell me that Bain is mid as fuck But then I'm gonna ask you this what did Fernando Mendoza do in the championship game? 187 yards passing

Rated D.A.K. Beta.

187 yards. Tell me that he had this game where he took over the game and made you say he's the number one pick.

Miami's defense kept that game close and Baines part of the reason

Another one, Bane will get pumped in the NFL. Exactly, don't wait for next year for a QB.

speaker-0 (01:52:19.63)
Let's see, do it this year at Mendoza, Albert sports. Tweeted Davis, left Vegas, is flying out of Denver and he's going to Baltimore for OC.

See, coach says it too, what makes you say that. That was this comment.

Yep.

See wait until the JV phenom comes out then then get QB. Transfer call to ruin the draft. Oh, definitely 100 % went over. Re with that 100 % man. Yep, if he doesn't like the team with the number one overall, they feel like they could improve their stock. They would just stay in the year in college. Yep, guaranteed money for them. They're not stupid. Absolutely not stupid.

Yep, 100%.

speaker-0 (01:53:10.956)
I I still tried to touch it.

It's to the mad and GM's in the chat. Why do you think Bain will get punked? He's talking to Rick. So here it is. Bain has short arms and those tackles at NFL will neutralize him.

Did you see that against Indiana?

Bain played, you fucking know, Bain played against some future accountants. The NFL is different.

What?

speaker-0 (01:53:43.638)
And keep in mind, someone said earlier that, I think it was coach, I'm not sure now, I forget, or it big luck, that they thought Bain was better than Mack coming out of college. Remember, Bain's at Miami, okay? Where did Mack play?

Bye for now.

How big of a school and what type of school?

Small division 1A school. Almost 1AA.

Thank you.

speaker-0 (01:54:16.504)
minutes good in that you know at a bigger school like a Miami or Alabama shit like that no no I'm not saying that but you're gonna compare apples to apples here I mean you're talking totally different levels in college too how did that offensive line for and I did too for for Indiana but that offense I did not have an easy time in that championship game against Miami that was probably one of the toughest games they played this season I mean they did

And I'm going to tell you like this.

speaker-0 (01:54:46.316)
They were getting worked a little bit.

Jeff, I'm gonna tell you like this. Bain went against Indiana's tackles. Old Miss. Ohio State. Texas A

Who's this?

That's the schools that Bain went against. And you're telling me that he just went.

I was just freaking the chat, my bad.

speaker-1 (01:55:14.378)
the list was the teams that I just mentioned were Indiana, old miss, Ohio state, Texas A and played all the, he played those four schools, not including, you know, the teams that he had at Notre Dame. They played, all their guys in the season. You're telling me that this kid didn't go against the best. went all the way to the national championship game.

And Jeff, did he get erased in the national championship game?

speaker-1 (01:55:51.96)
So how is this guy mid?

speaker-1 (01:55:57.506)
He shows up at every game at every level and you're going to say that he has short arms that he's going to get erased but he's been playing against those guys all season long. Division one tackles plays ACC football. He played against the SEC. He played against the big 10.

Hey, you know, we'll said short arms come out of the drop last year and everybody said he was horrible and you shouldn't be picked and where is he playing next two weeks?

Oh, I'm in the Super Bowl left tackle for the Patriots. Yeah, and I even said it. I'm like, oh, yeah, he's got short arms. Not gonna be good. Oh, guess what? I was fucking wrong. He started all season long to rookies on that offensive left tackle and a left guard playing side by side to rookies. And look at that team. Protective for a kid that's possibly going to be the And he said.

speaker-1 (01:56:55.034)
We're looking at arm length.

We see how long Max's arms are and nobody's like, you're gonna be that long. Sort of like you're gonna be this tall to ride the ride. And if you're not this tall, can't ride it. Well, if your arms aren't 33 inches, but they're 32 and a half.

All I gotta say is John Randall.

Sure. Sure,

My God, was not even him. Look at what's his name? Harrison from the the from the Steelers. Do you ever see how small he was compared to other guys when he's out there? Well, isn't a big tall wise. He was jacked as shit, but he was just super aggressive and strong. Randall, same way.

speaker-1 (01:57:33.996)
And with defensive ends, you almost want them to get short because then they get that edge and you can get them to get underneath the pads of the left tackle. A 6'5 left tackle dealing with a 5'10 defensive end, it's hard for them to stay low. It's hard for them to stay in position. mean, like the bane is not a 5'10 defensive end either.

Yeah. How often does he get home now? Gets a lot of QB precious. Remember that always leads a league in QB precious.

I haven't seen that many sacks, seen them miss more sacks this year than make them.

because he takes too wide of a swing all the time. He goes too far outside the lane. If he would just spin back inside a couple of times, he would just be even more disruptive. I just, you see it when the play's developing. It's like, does he just not cut back inside?

And just because Max Crosby has long arms doesn't mean there's not defensive ends that are successful that have short arms.

speaker-0 (01:58:36.338)
Yeah, he did He did blur eyeliner.

speaker-0 (01:58:44.098)
Draftman does and let's build it on his rich contract.

speaker-0 (01:58:51.95)
Beautiful, beautiful lady, man.

No.

Yeah, that's not I'm not when yeah, he's delusional web playing Kingsbury Glenn Schumann as head coach hosting DC Shaman where's he from? Obviously is the DC

Yeah, I'm like...

Shuman,

speaker-1 (01:59:21.262)
You

Always the man right then bringing in Gino the bum smith another who's a season and some more horrible takes when it comes to the nation she Here we go

speaker-0 (01:59:34.006)
Hey, ate crow on that one. I don't think anybody expected us to be that bad with Pete Carolell last year. That bit everybody in the ass.

Yep, I agree. So Glenn Schuman is the defensive coordinator for Georgia.

he said eight interceptions.

Whatever that question was, I forgot how far back that was. mean, I'm 10 minutes behind still in the chat.

Seriously, I can't catch up no matter what I do.

speaker-1 (02:00:06.126)
Uhhhh...

And you're right too, when you add receivers.

Yep. And an O-line in a run game.

speaker-0 (02:00:21.944)
Miami lined up wide and Indiana punished them with inside runs.

speaker-0 (02:00:30.158)
I'm sorry, I'm a Mendoza fan, but he did not win the game. look at this. So, John Rader. I'm sorry, I'm a Mendoza fan, but he did not win the game. If Indiana's defense was not that good, I say they lose it. How about you just take away that block punt for the touchdown? That game's over, right? That game's different right there. They lose that game.

And I agree with John Raider. mean, like, again, that's why I said, Hey, show me where Mendoza took over that game and made it his own. He didn't. He struggled. I'll be like, that's why I said, I'm like, how are you going to be a franchise guy? And if in the championship game in college football, you can't take over the game.

picks as Bain is fine showed on defensive ends are just extremely rare in the NFL versus tackles insane length on every team.

speaker-0 (02:01:27.749)
I can't disagree with that either. Jeff Doritos is gonna give me an ulcer. Yeah, give me an ulcer. They're gonna give me another heart attack. Yes, another. I've already had one heart attack in 2017. So don't want another one. Chat's gonna give me a heart attack tonight. But online in general has been trending down over the last 10 years.

That's why we keep saying we have to address the O line. If you want to get Mendoza, you have to address it.

What's up, John? We've pretty much been on the same topic since we started the show. few hours ago, we started talking head coaches. And then as always, pretty much on every show I've watched, it always transitions to a heavy Mendoza talk. That's why sometimes trying to have a flow on the show just doesn't work. because the chat just drives you into the Mendoza side of things.

Yeah, we can't

speaker-0 (02:02:26.21)
Yeah, the arm debate is destroyable. Yeah, so we're talking Mendoza still obviously we're talking who's actually valued at, know, if it's not Mendoza, who's actually the top pick in this draft? It's definitely not Mendoza. It's only Mendoza because the teams up front need quarterbacks and that's us. Take us two out of that equation. It's not Mendoza until wherever one of us

the

Yep.

Trade max two firsts. Now I'm all for that too, I'm a Raiders fan since 83 this franchise. Second worst is Cleveland. I wish Cheetah was here for this Bane propaganda.

Yeah, you're not lying.

speaker-1 (02:03:26.584)
Can't do it.

Yeah, Randall was an email. What's his name was an ELA. No, Harrison, he was a driver.

Because people look at them and they say, you can't play because you have short arms. Guess what?

the

I guess what they go John randall didn't fit the measure of balls, but he has a yellow jacket. Yeah Harrison didn't fit the measurables, but he has a couple super bowl rings and then a big play in the Super Bowl That's probably idolized For like years to come Yeah, short arms is the problem

speaker-0 (02:04:02.222)
What's the NFL has short arms. I don't know. I don't go around looking at measurements. Bain had three and a half sacks last year. Kudos to him for having a good year. The other defensive end at Miami is pretty, yeah, what the hell is his name? Begins with an M also, with an M. Meter, meter?

Meiser, I fucked it. Because he had a good game. I think he had two sacks in that championship game. Julius Peppers was pretty good. Yep, was about how much better Mendoza would have been over Gino. yeah. That's it, Macedo. That's it. I think Macedo will have more success in the NFL than Bang. Yeah, I'll take him too.

speaker-0 (02:04:46.798)
that's where the guy the guy he was talking about that show Shalman Sherman Yeah, he's George he's turned down NFL jobs in the past, but I think we could convince him Be nice 2016 the whole line was good. Hope we get back there. That was a good old line back then That's not act like Indiana won a lot

speaker-0 (02:05:09.784)
They were shit. I don't think they were shit. I mean, they went.

I mean like they won the national championship. If you're a shit show and you can win the national championship, damn.

Then shit, we're a shit show, we should be winning the Super Bowl again by the

What happened to the Raiders?

speaker-0 (02:05:26.956)
I'm gonna get a heart attack if we don't get Kubiak or Webb. What's up, Jordan?

What were Mendoza stats in the college football playoffs? I don't know, do have them there?

No, but they're going to talk about how he tore up the first two teams. I know, yeah, he had a great success against those teams. I'm just talking about the national championship game.

speaker-0 (02:06:07.438)
Do you see another Max Crosby in the draft?

Could be Mesodore, could be Bane. Yeah.

Anybody. We got to look at it. It's like how much can we get for a value for Max now? Because after this year, it's only going to keep going down. That's why we should have done it last year before the drought.

And that's why I say I'm like, I think you could probably get two number ones right now. That's probably maxed out.

level people cite the exception to the rule. I just can't get on the Mendoza kick. I'm sorry. just, and again, lucky as drunk. Building an old line before getting a QB is a pre-salary cap old school way of thinking. This is all but gone with the salary cap and QB's taking 20 % of salary winning on a rookie deal is almost a bust.

speaker-0 (02:07:03.342)
I just can't trust this team to do anything right. That's why that's the other thing that makes me.

So so he wants to get the offensive line after he gets the quarterback.

speaker-0 (02:07:21.176)
What? So Raiders are doing second interview with undisclosed candidate. If your private individual can request it not be disclosed, NFL appealing again to Supreme Court. John Gruden is still a possibility. I'm just, God. I know you're just saying, but please no.

That would be crazy

speaker-1 (02:07:44.599)
my gosh, 3.0.

So I'm a big IU fan and I don't think Mendoza would be an okay pro. So you're a fan of Indiana and you don't think Mendoza would work out.

Interesting.

But that just goes to show you man. mean like people are really divided and how many people really watch the game the whole season

politics you've done some that are going this way and some going that way and it's the same thing with this, you know, it's it's Well, I find there's more on the Mendoza side versus the non Mendoza side in this case, but either way, we're still divided

speaker-1 (02:08:29.39)
We're starving for a quarterback. It's because you know, because we haven't had one so long since Derek Carr left and had a quarterback that we consider a franchise guy, right? So I'll like, that's what the and I'm going to tell you like this. 90 % of those people think as Mendoza as the solution. Like they just think we're going to draft Fernando Mendoza and all of a sudden we're going to win games. And all of a sudden we're going to be competitive in every single game. Jeff, you and I know.

takes more than one guy to make your team competitive.

Well, that's how some people look at it. They go, he's, you know, he's going to be the saving. He's not going to the savior. There's so much. It's a team sport. It's not an individual sport. Basketball. Yeah. You've got to have one Michael Jordan and a couple of decent guys and you're going to win and you're going to win consistently. You know, players like that, you know, that's different. This is 11 guys on the field and you have to be so well coordinated.

You need somebody on the other end of that ball that you're throwing it to or handing off to. Basketball, you just dribble it down the line, shoot it and you're in. Hey, I just hit a free. Did it all by myself. You can't do it all by yourself in the NFL. You can't do it all by yourself in the NFL. could have made your leagues if you're just hitting home runs every time you get up there.

But I'm going to tell you like this, Jeff. This isn't your local high school football game where one kid you hand it off to like Derrick Henry and he's going to get 2000 yards in one game, right? This is the NFL where every single player is the cream of the crop. I don't care. And it makes me laugh when people go like, oh, that guy's a bum. He sucks. I'm like, that guy made it to the NFL.

speaker-1 (02:10:17.08)
That guy is just not as good as the other guys in the NFL. But does he suck? No, he's the top 1 % of every single player that has come through in the whole country. People need to like get off that pier.

Yeah.

speaker-0 (02:10:36.27)
So did Casey get an O-line first? Well, first of all, they had a fide starter before Mahomes was there.

Yeah, at Alex Smith.

Yeah, Alex. Absolutely. My homes didn't start until the second year there. They were a different team then too. If they build an offensive line around him, then he can march down the field. Do you see another player that's coming out of the draft that's top pick? Yeah, that's fortunate. It's on the defensive side. Undisclosed his Kubiak because of Super Bowl.

That'd be...

Maybe he doesn't want his business out.

speaker-0 (02:11:17.081)
Yeah, Jeff's not going to like this. The mysterious candidate of radius I'm going to interview that Mark Davis is going to is John Grudnich.

no, bro, no!

She signed Jaylen Phillips and free agency. Oh, we got a 999 super chat from Sal. Very interesting the way coaches been hired. wouldn't count on group. couldn't wouldn't I wouldn't count out room NFL appealing again in South Carolina. Oh, so great. Great is meeting with someone second interview and they are not for the team. They requested it to not be disclosed.

No, no, no, no, no.

I could see that though. I could see what they're saying.

speaker-1 (02:12:19.35)
Yes, they did. And that's why Aaron Rodgers slid down to 24.

And he sat on the bench and he became great.

Yeah, people knocked Brady before his draft. What's the point? And Brock Birdie went last man in the draft, so... That's just, you know what? You're just solidifying my point though when you say that because it necessarily doesn't have to be a first round number one overall pick that becomes the gem. You could find one later in the draft. You don't know. Again. Just like anything. It's a fucking gamble. You draft somebody. You don't know.

Yeah.

speaker-1 (02:12:55.052)
It's a 50-50!

No thinking we will win every game if we draft. No, I don't think so.

speaker-0 (02:13:06.178)
Well, you better get used to it, John, because right now that's what we got until something that again, as of right now, as we sit here talking to you, looking at you right now on the camera. That's who our players are on the quarterback room. It's Geno Smith and AOC 12. No other options at this time. That's it.

people were knocking Drake made before his draft. I didn't say shit about Drake because I don't even fucking know about him.

They're saying that because he played in Duke and like the competition he played against.

fighting words

Okay.

speaker-1 (02:13:47.822)
I got you, Roy. I got you.

I'm born in 1970 and became a fan in 75. So trust me, I feel your pain, man. These fans need to let go of John Gruden. So what? He got us in the right spot. We still lost that year. We haven't had a winning season since 02. We've had it.

Is that 2021?

We had two winning seasons since then not that that's a good thing either trust me. I It still sucks

So I correct me about that in 20 years, two good seasons.

speaker-0 (02:14:27.726)
with the 499 super chat again on Leo's channel. Appreciate you. Jeff, you heard me last week. Think people on this narrative. You went Heisman and then you have to take him and Dozer is not the savior.

And it's true.

trophy. They're looking at Mendoza as that trophy. got him on this pedestal. And again, it's no fault of their own to be honest with you. It's because we've been so needy for a quarterback. And then finally we get the number one pick and unfortunately it's not a great quarterback draft. There's one option with the number one pick. It's just the right away that this happens that we get the number one pick. There's not even options. We're not even, we're not even talking about

What are the quarterback option at number one? Like last year there was there was two options. Obviously everybody was talking about Chador and Cam War. You know, so there was always those two options and then unfortunately Sanders fell out till the fifth round. You know, years before look at the yeah, that's it. Look at the Brock Bowers rookie season that draft. There were a bunch of quarterbacks in that if we would have the first pick in that one, we'd be sitting pretty because we would have had either Jaden Daniels or Caleb Williams. And then if those two didn't fold,

you know, go our way. But again, we would have had the number one. You know, so there's no debate as to who's the number one quarterback. There's it. It's him. He's the only one. We can't even have options. There's nothing to compare him against at number one. You're to take him over number one overall. The next closest right now is what? Simpson?

speaker-1 (02:16:02.99)
Yeah, and since the main even close I'll be like we are we can all agree on that

You know, if everything would have gone the way it should have, which more coming out, then you could possibly say you can compare the two because you could take him number one or you could take Mendoza, but people would still sway towards Mendoza because he the national championship, the Heisman Trophy winner. He'd have more in his side on those accolades. I get that. I still don't think he should have won the Heisman, but that's

commencement trophy winner.

speaker-1 (02:16:36.716)
You know what? I love this comment, man. He's saying it. Hey, he's not the savior, but can he be part of the solution? Absolutely. And we've said it. The team just isn't ready for a guy. And he's not this guy that's a game changer. mean, like, tell me that you see this guy coming in and making this team an absolute winner from day one. He's not that type. He needs people around him to be successful.

speaker-1 (02:17:07.68)
in a trade. Let's not let go.

Unfortunately, we can't fire Mark. That's the shitty part. I hope the mysterious interview is Kurt Signetti. I'd rather be him than Gruden. Even though I don't think he's gonna leave the college.

Yeah, that could be.

speaker-1 (02:17:30.168)
not for 13, less than 13 milliliter year.

not be disclosed, it's for all the reasons that are private.

Ha ha.

speaker-0 (02:17:39.907)
These guys don't finish products when Dill serves only 22 and he should get better.

There's a thing, he should get better.

Tomlin, I wish.

that

No.

speaker-0 (02:17:56.718)
What's up, A.L.? What's going on, my guys?

Have a one.

Patriots are on ranked 14th middle of the road. Yeah, that's what two rookies to start and rookies on the left side though They needed offensive linemen and guess what they addressed it in the draft and look what it did How did our last restaurant pick pan out? It can happen at any position. No guarantees no matter what position we draft. So why not Mendoza? No, I get that I told you I'm not against drafting them just

Wait, what does he mean can happen? Our last first rounder, our last first rounder is Gentie. Is he calling Gentie a bust already?

The last first round pick pan out can happen at any position. No guarantees no matter what position we draft. So why not Mendoza?

speaker-1 (02:18:46.574)
If you're calling Ash and Gentie a bust already, I'll be like...

speaker-1 (02:18:53.799)
How did our last first plan out?

speaker-1 (02:18:59.544)
What can you, but what do you be, so yeah, I'm interpreting it different, so I'm kind of confused.

talking about how the first pick pans out.

So we panned out okay with Genthe, even though the offensive line sucked, okay? But it's still panned out for us in the long run.

I see, I see, I see. Okay, okay, okay.

You look at you looked at it black and white. I looked at shiny and nice.

speaker-1 (02:19:24.622)
No, no, I get what you're saying. get what you're saying. You looked at all the other details. I looked at it like, wait a minute.

You didn't read the whole book, you just looked at the cover.

Yeah, that's what it is.

Kubiakobust. If it's screwed and the mysterious candidate we are interviewing and we hire him, I'm gonna lose my shit. Yeah, you and me both,

I don't see what we would get with Grunem 3.0 that we didn't get with 1.0 and 2.0.

speaker-0 (02:19:54.169)
The chats later Hello from cell phone 99. I rather trade back Came up with Crosby built inside out. We can hit next year with someone else's round one deeper class next year And that's what I was saying earlier. It's like everybody always says next year's draft next year's draft for quarterback, but That's value for your first round pick right there That's total value

The cleanup.

because you put those two out there together. First of all, Crosby has never had a guy playing opposite hit of him with the talent of this kid. That's number one. That's totally number one because as their double team in Max, guess who's on single? Who's being singled up? And the short arms aren't going to matter.

You're great.

speaker-1 (02:20:47.054)
Well, and if you're sliding protection, mean, like you put them on defensive ends, that's what gives you the one on ones.

Like I said, Leo's gonna be happy when he checks his super chats later.

man, that guy.

He's gonna be like, the hell happened? He goes, I oughta not do shows more often.

You're gonna turn down an interview with the Jets? Hey, I would too! Why would I? Let me tell you like this. Why would the Jets be interviewing anyone right now? Don't they still have a head coach?

speaker-0 (02:21:15.926)
OC OC OC.

Wow, OC, okay.

team that's three and fourteen with no blue QB is always ready for a QB and those would be the best QB prospect of course he's the best it's the only option this year

There is no other option. If you're drafting in the first round and you draft another quarterback...

We have no clues coming out next year

speaker-1 (02:21:41.294)
Exactly.

If you go baseline right now, Mendoza's hands down the only one.

But look at that. Look at I love that. Give him a legit O line. You have to give him a legit O line. Correct. Hey, if you give him a legit coaching staff and O line, hell yeah, he's going to bring a great prospect. I'd be like, that's exactly what we need to do in order for him to be successful. We said that like 15 times.

speaker-0 (02:22:09.526)
and get him people to help make him and us successful. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, that's still gonna be the toughie. Bears weren't ready for a QB either and that worked out after one year and they fixed the line. Same with Drake May, it can work, but it will take at least two years.

speaker-1 (02:22:28.566)
It can happen, but I'd be like the very-

Look at this ass whoop the first. Yeah, too. It's a

And let's be real. How lucky can you get when you find a Ben Johnson coming out one year as coach? I'd be like.

And that's what we're hoping we're gonna get if Kubiak's the one that's what what

We're hoping to replicate and fit gold. And I mean, like, but how lucky could you be? mean, like, honestly, the Bears, the way that they retooled, they had a massive amount of picks. You know.

speaker-0 (02:23:04.514)
Which-

You know this and they traded back in one draft. You remember that Jeff? They traded back to acquire all those draft pigs to get Willie or you know to get Caleb Williams. So.

thing is and then they went after Casey's offensive line they grabbed two offensive linemen which is why Casey was so bad and which is why my home's given a shadow of himself this past season he was horrible this year. He's got no he really doesn't have a lot of skillful players around him he's got Kelsey that's like the only one he can count on and he's not gonna have next year and they're not gonna have my homes for probably about maybe the first half of the season so they take two offensive linemen from there they bring Swift in

But Duse is already there. Caleb Williams is already there. You got Cole Comitt and they took Loveland, who's another great side add and they're off to the races and look what happened with them. They fall one game shy and making it to the NFC championship.

And I'm sure there was a player there, a nice shiny player that they traded back and they traded out of that position in order to make that happen.

speaker-1 (02:24:17.09)
Wait wait wait, he's always hurt.

Yeah, he hasn't. He missed quite a few games this season too.

this season.

speaker-0 (02:24:27.914)
Let's see, Mendoza will be that guy and won't be injured for him. Like these other groupies look at Daniel skinny and keeps getting hurt. Not if we don't protect them.

Hey, you seen, have you not seen how skinny Mendoza is?

Be like, we're trying to make this guy look like he's the Incredible Hulk or something.

Kids long and wiry too.

We should what then we end up with more clean. Yeah, Pharrell's Abrams Arnett's DJ Hayden's Not really

speaker-1 (02:25:02.106)
Wowowowow

I get what he's saying. I understand it. if you know anybody that knows Afikasi, he's very passionate about this team. And I get it. You know, he's tied to seeing us stuck in this rut of just suckage after suckage after suckage every year. We're just horrible. And we've always got these picks, like pretty much every name he's named down there have all been just complete wastes. Every single one.

And I get it, if he left out one to Leatherwood. It's a big swing in this we had. Yeah, I get what he's saying. And that's what we want to hopefully avoid too.

Yeah

speaker-1 (02:25:48.354)
No, I agree. I mean, nobody wants to miss.

Bro, I don't wake up and choose violence. can't... Bro, that's not cock blocking or whatever. It's a move. It's a strategy move.

What's up,

Plus that doesn't stop Webb coming from being the head coach. If you guys wanted Webb to be the head coach, that doesn't stop him from coming to Las Vegas and becoming our head coach.

speaker-1 (02:26:21.76)
Yeah, Bane does have short arms.

Well, he's on the Senate. He's whatever.

What?

He's using that as like a joke because that's what was said earlier. He's bringing that back up, which is funny. I love it. First round NFL quarterback draft picks have a success rate of roughly 40 to 50 percent with studies often indicating a miss rate higher than 50 over the last two decades. First round left tackles are among the safest high end draft picks with approximately 59 percent, 38 of 64.

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speaker-1 (02:27:06.178)
Mmm!

No, that's probably part of reason why Ma went back for him because he knew he'd be a jet if we didn't.

He's like,

Yeah, Sal, love to come on live for our fellows and explain to our fellow Raider fans why Mendoza isn't our guy. Coming from a former collegiate quarterback, there's a lot of holes. And another super chat at 499. You know what? Hit me up on Instagram.

We'll make that happen.

speaker-0 (02:27:36.462)
It's under the same name, 401 underscore, rater underscore Jeff. Yeah, hit me up on Instagram, send me a PM. If you don't have that, have Twitter, it's the same name. If you're on Facebook, my full name is, my last name's LaFontaine, just like it sounds.

I don't care if people look my last name. I could give a shit on my fucking shirt. See it all. So what's the difference? But appreciate you, my guy, with another 499 super chat.

Bears gave up 62 sacks. Yeah, not this patch. See I though right had to be laughs

That had to be a couple years ago.

those who will be better than Arch, Sellas, all these next upcoming QBs, Contrapraspects, among coming into NFL mock my words.

speaker-1 (02:28:31.724)
Wow, how are we gonna mark your words when Archmanny won't come out for another two years?

And I agree with you in a way, John, I definitely agree with you. It's not the players, it was the coaching that was the issue. Minus guys like Capa and although Capa did play center better than you did at guard. Capa, Forsythe, Parham has just been on, I've been on his case for the last two seasons. I'm just so done with him. But the thing is he's gone now. He's a free agent. So he'll be bye bye. Forsythe will be bye bye.

We only signed him to a one year deal. Kappa we got for one more year.

I'm a Mendoza guy, if we don't get online free agency, I'm sorry. Trade back draft, late QB Ole Miss, which is chambliss because Kubiak would tell Brady Spy take one of these QBs is my guy. Never know. he could. Drake, Maybonix, Caleb Williams, Jadendale, Joe Barrow all drafted and needed O-line.

Yeah, and look at Joe Burrow. He's about to retire because he's so unhappy. Like, let's just be real. And all these other guys, they're still young.

speaker-0 (02:29:45.046)
I would say though too is it. This is to defend him and I hate doing it, but he had a shitty first year head coach. Jared Mayo and he was horrible. As soon as variable showed up, the first thing he did was address the offensive line and he did it in the draft and they were a completely different team. Except for week one, cause they lost to us. Windows is 225. That's big for a QB to be honest.

Well he sticks five.

Yeah.

speaker-0 (02:30:21.096)
Mendoza will put another 10 pounds to Jaden Daniels. Can't put no weight. Here's a skinny frame. Yeah, why do we keep comparing Jaden Daniels?

Yeah, I mean, like, we don't want to compare guys when they come out, but we want to compare.

I'm done with that shit.

there were all resorts of trade downs.

Goat. The goat is the true definition of what goat used to be. OK, before it was the greatest of all times. Goat used to mean something completely different back in the. Just to mean you were the worst, you were the scapegoat, you were the worst player, you were horrible.

speaker-1 (02:30:51.884)
What did he used to mean?

speaker-0 (02:31:00.366)
When you were called the goat it wasn't a good thing back then

speaker-0 (02:31:13.208)
Yeah, because they just, they were like, look at the anagram this sentence. yeah, greatest of all time. yeah. Michael Jordan's a goat.

You

Areas another, but we didn't trade down for him. Yeah, true. We didn't. It was just a bad.

man, that was a terrible pick.

speaker-0 (02:31:40.009)
I'm not doing any mock drafts like last year. This time, we were doing mock drafts like fucking crazy. I'm not doing it this year. I'm not doing

even know who our coach is. How am I going to do a mock draft without even having an ad?

You know?

Like, yeah, we're just gonna drive Mendoza regardless of whoever's coming out. I mean like, it's it?

Hey, we can bring him back. I mean, if you want, we can reach out to his fan club. I'm sure he's got one hell of a fan club.

speaker-0 (02:32:24.437)
forgot to just be shitty. Yeah.

I'll take Rich Gannon's endorsement, thank you.

speaker-0 (02:32:34.797)
See, my mind caught up with this, good God. I'm supposed to be upset with you two, don't want Mendoza. When we've waited as a nation for years for a first round, potentially franchise QB since DC, but the other half knows you're not being biased. Or, oh, there's more. Or, you may just see something the majority don't see.

I don't think it's the fact that I'm seeing something the majority doesn't see. Again, I just want more value for my newborn pig, that's all. That's all I'm asking. It's just considerate. That's all.

You see, and for me, I'm looking at it as we're not ready for a guy like that. I'll be like, I want to be able to say like, yeah, we're going to have, we're a great landing spot for Mendoza, but Jeff, we both talked about it. We, this is not a good landing spot for him right now. We don't have the weapons. We don't have the offensive line. We don't have guys in place in order for him to be successful. So we're not saying.

Don't draft Mendoza because he's not a good player. saying if we're not ready for Mendoza, don't do it because you're just going to bring him in and then he's going to be added to that list.

Here's my other take on this and thank you, Sal. I'll I'll check it when we're done here. I appreciate that. Thank you for the dollar. Ninety nine super chat. Yeah, we was really going to love you time.

speaker-0 (02:34:14.112)
Here's the other reason, okay?

speaker-0 (02:34:19.586)
Because we, how do I want to word this so I don't sound.

Hmm.

speaker-0 (02:34:32.91)
It's gonna come out wrong. I know it's gonna come out wrong with the way I wanna word this. I'm just trying to think of how to word this so it...

speaker-0 (02:34:43.758)
I

speaker-0 (02:34:47.906)
You know what? I just can't think of how I want to word this. There's something I specifically wanted to say about this whole thing.

speaker-0 (02:34:59.982)
We haven't confidently, no matter who's in charge, and now we're getting a GM on his second year, until I see otherwise, this is what makes me nervous about going and making this move for a quarterback like this. We haven't shown stability in being able to do the right thing in free agency. And I'm not going way back.

I, as soon as I start seeing a momentum on what we do and building the team going forward, then I could, I could get behind something like taking him overall. Number one, am I making sense? I'm just trying to like everything. My head's like a fricking rat's nest right now.

Yeah.

speaker-1 (02:35:49.974)
You're trying to say is that you want to see stability you want to see here's the thing here's the hard

moving in the right direction first. You know, this is all going to take baby steps. And this is why going right after that quarterback is, that's not taking a baby step. That's taking a big leap forward because you're putting the cart before the horse at this point, because you're going to get that, that quarterback when we can't even protect who we have now at quarterback, let alone.

People are saying like, he'll stop right away or, you know, he's QE's NFL ready. You want to put him out there if we haven't shown that stability to grow this team and build this team in the right manner. And that's where my pushback comes from. Again, I'm not questioning his ability or his talent. I'm questioning us as an organization to do the right thing to help him so he's in the right place when it's time for him or whoever the quarterback is.

You know, the last thing I want to do is bring a rookie quarterback in and kill his confidence because we can't protect him. We can't put the right pieces around him. You know, that's how I'm looking at this. I know it seems like I just don't want Mendoza. That's and everybody keeps taking it this wrong way. That's what I'm going at here is I want to see us progress as a team and.

Exactly!

speaker-0 (02:37:19.734)
Reinvent this order. That's what we have to do We're pretty much gonna reinvent this organization going forward now spy tech and so Brady are the ones running the show basically Mark Davis is just sitting over there in the corner waiting to sign the checks. That's all he needs to do you just sign the checks and shut up The boys will take care of it Once I see that stability then I would have more confidence in making this move I don't know if I'm I don't think I'll ever change anybody's mind as far as

You know, everybody's got their mindset that want Mendoza. You're not going to change that. They're fully focused on that because we've been so quarterback hungry for so long. But I guess that's why I really feel this way. But I mean, you get it now, right?

Yeah, no, I get what you're saying. I mean like you want the team to have stability you want more pieces around I'll be like my biggest thing is this if we draft Mendoza and he doesn't have success and now we have another GM Are we gonna get rid of Mendoza and then go another way that quickly? I'll be like that's kind of a difficult move I'll be like that's where I see what you're coming from

I mean, like, how about we show some stability in the front office and with management before we start making franchise moves with the quarterback? But I'll be like, everybody has their way of slicing the pie.

Yeah. All the free agents can walk. Devin White, Jamal Adams, Koonce, et cetera. They can all walk. They took plays off missing tackles. I don't know if I'd give her the Koonce. Snowden. I'm definitely all for this guy. I think Snowden showed up as the season went on.

speaker-1 (02:39:02.03)
I would.

speaker-1 (02:39:07.96)
I- was really disappointed by Coon's dis-

play ball and spend like crazy. Yeah, but New England did it in the draft though. That's the whole point I'm getting at. What they did with their offensive line, they didn't do it in free agency. They did it in the draft. They grabbed two rookie offensive linemen and they turned that team around. I said it during our draft watch party for the round one that night. said, New England is, need this, this, and this, and they're to be good. Trust me. And everybody was like,

Yep.

speaker-0 (02:39:39.842)
Where the fuck are they? Well, go back and watch recap from last year. They're in the Super Bowl. I said they need they need an offensive lineman, preferably a left tackle. They need a wide receiver. And they need a few little things on defense. What did they do? They fleeced us. They took off free agents that we didn't resign. OK, chase on spilling. OK, they drafted a fucking.

Tackle left tackle they brought in Stefan they brought in Matt Collins What did they do they drafted a run running a rookie running back that but one I really wanted us to grab because we didn't have to do that in the first round we could have done in the second round and Where are they they're in the Super Bowl? Everything that they did I wanted to do basically is what ended up happening Not digs, but I wanted Matt Collins. That's who I really wanted us to try and

bring back as a wide receiver. We had them before. I liked them. And they're in super.

Yes.

And everybody will be like, well, yeah, they got the quarterback team before. Why can't we do that? Okay. First of all, they didn't need as many pieces of the puzzle as we did. Well, we do.

speaker-1 (02:40:57.774)
100 %

It's crazy though, are high schoolers who have a faster twitch to get off the ball than Tyrese.

You ain't lying coach.

Hey guys, it's getting a little speculative until we get exactly. Thank you. Yeah, I'm free just until I see those choices. I'm going to refrain from saying anything I want what's best to win championships and that's what I keep trying to say. It's like all this talk is for nothing and everybody gets all worked up or until we get a high coach and they pick an OC DC and we know what direction we're going in your priority. Number one is head coach. Boom. Talking about right now.

100 %

speaker-0 (02:41:50.39)
Is this a double stream? What do mean? yeah, I got vertical in landscape. Sorry, Bueno, not everybody's together, but this three channel streaming, so you weren't all gonna be in the same one anyway.

Yeah.

yelled at me the other day. He goes, why don't you just do your show in one stream instead of doing the vertical and that so everybody's together in the chat. So I did it just for him. I did it in just the vertical.

that was that last show we did.

Yeah. Yeah.

speaker-0 (02:42:26.51)
Let's see if I'm GM and no online wants to come here and I draft Mendoza in his career is destroyed My reputation will be on the line. The media will be chasing me. I'll get fired next year

100 % you have to dress though.

speaker-0 (02:42:46.641)
So I'm gonna tell you right now I think I got a perfect show for you to come on My co-host Are you available Thursday night to get him on with me?

Yeah

speaker-1 (02:42:58.966)
Yeah, man. I'm like, come on Thursday.

I'll have them come on. If you're available Thursday night, I'll have you come on the Coast to Coast show with myself and Nate Thursday night. starts at 10 o'clock East and seven o'clock Pacific. I'm just throwing that out there right now. But I'll talk to you in the PM after the show's over. I'll hit you up. Yeah, RADA piece. PTSD, I've got PTSD for other reasons and I definitely got it as a RADA fan. That's my god.

The truth of the matter is the nation has been waiting for franchise QB as part of the nation. The other half on Latino fans especially Chicano said Fendoza gives off QB.

you will keep that right there that statement is 100 %

speaker-1 (02:44:01.006)
Fernando Mendoza is like the AP right we hired AP because we he was like a Raider and he had that swagger Right now everybody goes like Fernando Mendoza. bro. He's brown. I was like No, really Really? he speaks Spanish. Does that make him a better quarterback? Does that make him read defenses better? I'm like

I don't give a damn if he speaks Spanish, English, Portuguese, whatever. I'm like, I just need him to throw touchdowns.

speaker-1 (02:44:39.598)
should not worry if Clint Kubiak wasn't interested. He would tell his agent to call the Raiders if he didn't want the job. Brady has Kubiak contact both have mutual interest. Yeah.

We all are Milo. What's up, man?

speaker-1 (02:45:14.402)
We haven't drafted well. We haven't drafted well. We haven't look at the list that Afrikasi put out I'll be like there's like 20 names on there all bust in the first round

speaker-0 (02:45:28.898)
Yeah, and I agree coach and you're absolutely right every team that does well just magically has depth somehow Meanwhile, Raid has got to build a whole damn team instead of just select a few positions It's sad. It's sick. It's just I I asked the same thing and Another super chat from south 499 because I'll wait to go live to explain Mendoza is a

Yes, I agree.

He doesn't read defenses or change protectors.

What did I say? What did I say? IBS, we are on the same page. You didn't see him make any changes. He's straight RPO. He reads the defensive end and then reads one overhang and then makes the decision off those two things maximum. When you run RPO, you do not read the whole field. It's not meant to be that way.

speaker-0 (02:46:25.858)
Yeah.

805 is good something what they say all question Mendoza's ability and talent at the NFL over he wasn't even the main piece for the Indiana offense they won majority games through the ground game and our pure much and I've heard you say that before too 805

Yes!

speaker-1 (02:46:50.466)
No, 805.

I recognize you saying.

That running back, dude, that running back from IU is a straight dough.

Kid is a man eater. He pounds the Rockies physical. He was the difference maker in that game.

speaker-1 (02:47:10.889)
I agree 150 % with 805.

down to the GM coach and Raiders have three. Yeah. There's no stability. So how are we going to bring this kid into this type of world and say, yeah, we're going to bring you stability when we don't have any stability in the front office. We don't know who our head coach is. We don't know any of these things, but guess what Fernando, you're going to come here and you're going to be the solution.

Wait what day I want to hear this. Oh, you mean like to have him on the show It'll be Thursday this Thursday night if I can coordinate with them I think Jeff just I think Jeff just opened up to everything and not stuck on the main narrative going around at this point in time I know I try trust me We started talking head coaches like I said, and then you just get sucked right because it's usually the first couple questions right away Especially on the show that I'm on because everybody knows I'm not in favor of taking the quarterback

And it's not even Mendoza. It would be any quarterback out there. It would be any quarterback at this point. I'm sorry.

There isn't a game changer out there to that level right

speaker-0 (02:48:17.634)
But it's not even that though. If it was more coming out and he was just ridiculously good, better than what Mendoza is, I would still not be all on board with it because we just have so much that we need to do.

I getcha.

But I just don't want to keep beating it. That's what I feel like. feel like I'm just beating it dead lost. He's Cuban. He has Mexican relatives and shouts them out in interviews, particularly his Mexican American aunt. His aunt, that's all I care about.

I

speaker-1 (02:48:48.28)
Here we are.

speaker-0 (02:48:52.871)
Let's see, Philip Rubin's more Mexican than Mendoza.

yeah.

I'm answer all his presser questions in Spanish. Just the fuck with Grandpa Hondo. my god.

speaker-0 (02:49:11.202)
don't somebody's giving me Michael Jordan before he sells someone his cellphone. Yeah, I would totally suck.

man.

Alright, let's see. Jeffrey Giles, brother. I respect your point of view, but I see something special growing in the nation with Mendoza. Who knows? could be. mean, and again, I'm fine with that. I'll eat my crow when the time comes. I'll admit it. If it turns out the complete opposite of what I'm, you know, suggesting. Trust me, I'm not if we grab him, I don't want to see him fail because to see him fail means my rate is fail. So no.

That's not what I want if we drop the mom support them 100 % And don't agree And I'm not wearing anybody's I'm not wearing them in those are jerseys and right like that. First of all, don't I don't buy new players jerseys last time I did that was gallery So you're not gonna see me in that so if you're gonna see me in a jersey It's gonna be like a how how we long Otto art shell upshaw Those are the was new ski. Those are ones you're gonna see me in I don't buy new jerseys. Fuck that

the

speaker-0 (02:50:21.314)
waste of money because then they're gone in five years or four years or in jail and like all the people that have the Henry Ruggs jerseys.

This is this right here it says been those is the best pre play reading as pro adjusting QB since luck

speaker-1 (02:50:51.15)
I disagree. I'd be like, Roy, I really disagree here because if you understand the offense that he runs, it has nothing to do with any of those things you just said.

So much you Brady will leave, right? Yeah, hopefully.

speaker-0 (02:51:15.63)
Could be Hondo.

speaker-0 (02:51:26.758)
He seems like,

wonder about the most just a little bit. Yeah. Well, if we had an offensive line, we could push the wagon.

Mm-hmm.

Oh, all of them made of jerseys. Yeah, exactly. Besides that, you're not gonna see a guy my size wearing a running back jersey, unless it's Bo Jackson, I would probably be the only one. A running back jersey, wide receiver, quarterback. You're not gonna see me wearing jerseys of guys that have small frames than me. I gotta wear the heaviest. heaviest. got heaviest. the the got I got got got I got the heaviest. I got heaviest. I heaviest.

They want you to wear that

speaker-0 (02:52:07.244)
Hold off on that one for a while.

Get you a Mike Keynes jersey. Get you a nice DB number. 22.

looks so wrong. Royce Dizzy stands on this 100%. Another 999 Super Chat from Sal. I'll give the nation one more little insight on my points. Miami, PSU, Iowa, Illinois, Maryland, Oregon. First matchup, all have two things in common. I'll get a pass rush and disguise the multi defenses and struggles.

speaker-0 (02:52:45.255)
Thank you again for the 999 Super Chat. Appreciate you, brother.

And he's right what they're doing is they mug the line they come up and they drop different guys and they bring different guys and When you're telling me that Fernando Mendoza was reading all this okay and doing all this where was this in the national championship game Jeff Because I could just sworn I saw Miami corners jumping those freaking Throws to the flat after a while, but he was supposed to be reading them

speaker-0 (02:53:34.022)
I'm I'm like, like, like, like, I'm like, like,

It's a Tom Brady.

speaker-0 (02:53:53.902)
See, it took Tom Brady coming after he left New England, you know, he brought the New England way over there. He's following that. Fuck you, Pats fans. Kiss my ass, because I don't want to hear that shit either. Still doesn't mean if Tom Brady walked in this room right now, I'd still punch him in the face. Whether he's an owner of the Raiders or not. Still, just one shot. That's all I want. I just want one hit. And then cuff me, take me away. I don't care. I'll be happy.

No, I would not wear Alex Lowe would. All right, so that's end of the chat. right, Nightbot's the last one. All right, I'm ready to call it. We've been on for a...

Yeah, hey, but hey guys, so do you have the flyers for Cheetos event?

speaker-1 (02:54:39.247)
There is Easter event and do you have the flyer for the barbecue in May?

You mean this one?

Okay, so hey, I'll start with this one then. Hey guys, just so you guys know, May 31st, the Northern California, Northern Nevada, Black Hole Barbecue will be going down. It's gonna be a great three day event. We're gonna be out there Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Then everybody's gonna be driving back home Sunday. Guys, there's gonna be a lot of low riders. It's gonna be free food, free alcohol. Then on Friday, we're gonna go up to Lake Tahoe.

We're going to be enjoying some great stuff. As you guys can see, there's some cars right there. If you guys want to look on silver and black radio podcast.com, we also have a bunch of pictures there that we took last year. Guys, we're going to have several different car clubs from all over the country coming down. So please come on down, man. We're going to have free food. going to be some alcohol. We got some hotel reservations right here, guys. If you guys look at it.

It's going to tell you where to stay. It's going to have some discounts for you. There's going to be a rooftop bar where we're going to host a meet and greet Thursday night. Then Friday, we're going to be going to Tahoe meeting up at like a Damon Buster's at night. And then Saturday we'll be having the car show and barbecue. So I hope to see you guys there. Remember May 31st in Reno, May 30th weekend in Reno.

speaker-0 (02:56:21.858)
I don't. I don't know if you have it.

I do not, I thought it was in here last time.

speaker-0 (02:56:32.11)
I don't have it. That's all I did. I don't, unfortunately. It's not in it's not in Streamy Out.

All right.

speaker-1 (02:56:42.57)
Alright, so I guess we don't have that one but guys also so you guys know hey Cheeto will be having a combined event for Easter Make sure that you guys check them out I'm sure we'll start posting it to our page and start page posting it all over the place Make sure you go out there and support our brother he's gonna be doing it with Mike from Raiders Against the World and several other booster clubs in that area this will be in the

Inland Empire area for California.

Yeah, tomorrow night I'll be back on with Leo tomorrow night so he will...

That's the performers for the barbecue

I'm sure he'll bring up the Easter one tomorrow night on the radar connection for sure

speaker-0 (02:57:39.522)
There's a couple more chats I can't throw here See Brady is from the Bay. He grew up a Raiders fan and I miss mainly Raiders, but can't claim it Face of course is they're gonna fucking statue for most on the state We should have all got together that day after we beat them and ripped it down Should have treated that thing like Sodom Hussein's statue

Yeah.

speaker-1 (02:58:04.118)
Jesus! Grab some ropes and start turning it down.

it down. I mean, they'll make a picture of himself in front of that thing. It's a new series. Trust me, I want to QB just as bad as the next fan, but I don't work off desperation and emotion. People hated me last year when I had a third round grade on Chador. can do another off season of hate. If Brady was a plant this peanut.

You know my bad.

speaker-0 (02:58:37.912)
Jeff would make sure he is assaulted. You got it.

speaker-0 (02:58:45.304)
and

I was asking 805's number. Treat that with the Jets and get three first rounds. I hope happens. See, I'm right on board with you 805.

I agree.

speaker-1 (02:58:57.326)
I'm with 805 right there. I Want that second round or the the second pick I want the 18th pick and I want their first next

speaker-1 (02:59:09.154)
Yep, I want all three.

speaker-1 (02:59:13.197)
Yep.

I want their first round. I don't want the Colts or the Cowboys.

That's what I want. That's what I want.

Yeah

speaker-0 (02:59:27.68)
He grew up a 49er fan? That makes him even worse. Definitely then I know that Raider Nation will be on my side if I punch them in the face.

speaker-0 (02:59:39.52)
Alright everybody, appreciate everybody being in here tonight. Will, do you got going on this week? Sorry, final thoughts, my bad.

Hey man, hey guys, well, I'll be on with the on the Will and Cheeto show on Thursday We usually do that at lunch. Maybe Jeff will jump on you never know never know who's gonna jump on on that show We just shoot the shit I mean like really just relax atmosphere man and just talk everything that comes down the pipe We talk a lot of sports in general not just Raiders football, but we do address a lot of Raiders football on there Other than that man, just really chillin until like I figure out what's going on. I mean like

Listening to Jeff, Jeff is on quite a bit. So I'll be listening to Jeff tomorrow for his, what is it? The writer connection show.

Yep. It's a Cheetah Linus, Jay from Just Rate His Baby and Nate, LV Rated 10, the four of us tomorrow night, 10 o'clock Eastern time. I mean, yeah, 10 o'clock Eastern, seven o'clock Pacific. And I'm sure Mendoza is going to come up with that chat to that show to guarantee that Thursday night's Nate and myself, LV Rated 10, Raiders Coast to Coast, 10 o'clock Eastern, seven o'clock.

Pacific and then Friday night, no huddle. That's my show on Friday night solo. So anybody that knows anyone that's a fan of any one of the other 31 teams in the NFL, tell them to come check me out Friday nights, nine o'clock Eastern, six o'clock Pacific. We talk NFL. So if you got a team that just played in the playoffs or in the championship and got eliminated or playing in the soup bowl, have them come on in. I bring them up on screen with me and we talk to their team.

speaker-0 (03:01:26.702)
I'm trying to broaden my horizons instead of just have a strictly greater show and I'll try to

It's a good show, man. I love it.

speaker-1 (03:01:37.545)
I got you man, growing, you're growing.

You know, yeah, it's taking time. It'll grab at some point. So, let's see.

speaker-0 (03:01:49.902)
What do you all think the rate is chat spots? No comment.

Clickbait.

Yeah, I just it's not for me Not for me. I don't want to hear takes from a guy. That's not even a Raiders fan And I don't mean Mitch either. I'm talking about chugs Whatever not gonna get into it just would have to offer that if that's not on the table, what do you do? We're gonna have to follow that up tomorrow. Sorry coach

TMZ Raiders, yes, cool Kev, there you go. Everybody have a wonderful evening. Thank you for being here with us tonight. And as I always say, stay safe, go Raiders.