RAIDERS DRAFT,MAXX AND COMBINE

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This episode features an in-depth discussion on NFL draft strategies, combine insights, quarterback evaluations, and team building tactics. The hosts analyze prospects, draft rumors, and the importance of combine performance, providing valuable insights for football fans and analysts. In this episode, the hosts delve into NFL draft strategies, team trades, and player evaluations, with a focus on maximizing draft picks and team building. They also share personal stories, opinions on players, and insights into team management tactics. This episode features an in-depth discussion on NFL draft strategies, player evaluations, and team management insights. The hosts analyze draft picks, player impact, and the evolving role of AI in sports analytics, providing valuable perspectives for football fans and analysts alike.

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NFL draft strategies and trade considerations
Impact of NFL Combine on player evaluation
Quarterback prospects and draft order
Team needs and positional priorities
Rumors and rumors management in NFL NFL draft strategies
Team trade negotiations
Player evaluation and contracts NFL draft strategies and player evaluation
Impact of AI and simulators in sports analytics
Discussion on top prospects like Mendoza, Caleb Downs, and others

Transcript

speaker-1 (00:25.39)
Don't hesitate, boo-heels grind Sparks every night, we don't fade into the night No mercy, no retreat

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Smoke

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Here are my fists Take the field Stand tall

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speaker-0 (02:34.726)
Welcome back everybody to the next episode of the most notorious podcast with myself for when ready to Jeff ready to will from the silver and black podcast and I guy at the end Leo Cheeto Linus. What's up, John? How you doing?

speaker-2 (02:47.918)
What up man, what up, what up?

speaker-1 (02:49.272)
Salute, salute, salute. What's going on, baby?

speaker-0 (02:51.95)
How much? Was that a better intro?

speaker-2 (02:53.624)
I've got no strings to hold me down. I'm still in Disney mode, doc, you know?

speaker-0 (02:58.03)
I'm stunned.

speaker-1 (03:01.518)
Cheeto-landia, bro. Hey, that looks such a good time, bro. I'm so happy you got out there and enjoyed some Disneyland action. How was it, Cheeto? I'll be like, how's the weather out there? I'll be like, want to ask Jeff, because fuck, bro. That looks kind of rough on the East Coast.

speaker-2 (03:17.71)
It was nice. It was nice. was, it was like 80 degrees midday. So the sun came out a little bit, but it was cool. It cool. It was cool. I wish. See, I got to meet Darth Vader and.

but he does it in character though they have this whole thing where he talks to you that way and being the nerd that i am i went along with it because i had on my anacond skywalker shirt so i went along with it and it was fucking awesome but the dude only took pictures they didn't do the video like god damn it yeah but anyway it was a lot of fun it was a lot

speaker-0 (03:52.532)
You're excited to see a guy in costume. Just go to read his game. You'll see plenty of guys like that.

speaker-2 (03:57.902)
Yeah, but I'm a fan of this guy, not them, so there's a difference.

speaker-2 (04:07.278)
I'm fan of the movies. I am a fan of the series. That's how I learned to speak English Was Star Wars was one of the first movies I ever saw like that. Yeah

speaker-0 (04:17.517)
Thank God it wasn't the Phantom Menace because he needed to how to speak like JoJo Binks. We'd be fucked.

speaker-2 (04:24.862)
Yeah, no, this is this is a, this a best idea that I learned from, you know, from a look.

speaker-0 (04:32.416)
Yes.

speaker-2 (04:34.158)
Me, I know I was not like that.

speaker-0 (04:36.318)
Last time I went to Disneyland they still had 20,000 leagues under the sea that right doesn't even exist anymore and even Ireland

speaker-2 (04:42.252)
Last time you went to Disney, actually kicked it with Walt.

speaker-1 (04:45.646)
It's like you're watching.

speaker-0 (04:45.976)
Okay.

speaker-1 (04:51.054)
Hey, do they still got that ride that's like a a roller coaster ride? Almost it goes inside the dome it freaking like it's all dark. I forgot what

speaker-2 (05:01.282)
mean the Matterhorn. The Matterhorn or Space Island?

speaker-0 (05:05.774)
Bye.

speaker-2 (05:06.754)
No, they have space monster. It was closed though. didn't get to go on it, the Matterhorn still there.

speaker-0 (05:13.294)
Don and I went down to Disney on a honeymoon in 91 and it was like, the anybody in the Disney world, we rolled space. We did it like 36 times. 36 times we rode that ride. We'd get off and get right back on. There was no line. was nobody there. Place was dead. We just got hit with that hurricane Bob. So like nobody was there. It was

speaker-2 (05:19.342)
Okay, here we

speaker-2 (05:26.988)
Disney World, World

speaker-2 (05:41.55)
Dude, 91 had just graduated middle school.

I remember because our tassels said 91. Yeah, 91.

speaker-0 (05:56.454)
let's check in with the chat. Let's see his hand and we'll get rolling tonight. So we got Sactown Mike's in the house. luck. No, Leo was on time. It was on time. Jarrad is in the house.

speaker-2 (06:01.346)
What up, Mike?

speaker-2 (06:08.098)
I had to my wardrobe ready, you know, I gotta make sure.

speaker-0 (06:10.316)
the

speaker-2 (06:17.454)
No.

speaker-1 (06:19.155)
Red

speaker-0 (06:25.674)
here who else i don't mean to be a downer but i don't like the song not really my forte

speaker-2 (06:33.326)
No, I'm Jeff. We gave Jeff creative control and fitting Jeff's image. think the song is very suiting.

speaker-0 (06:34.07)
We get we

speaker-0 (06:43.444)
Let's see, who else did I miss? Did miss anybody else?

speaker-2 (06:46.83)
Kind of like why the connection one is more like the hip hop thing because it's different with me, Nate, Jay and you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

speaker-0 (06:52.716)
Yeah. of them or it's his refrigerator. I don't know. Could be Bueno. So those that are not aware, I do have a poll up on my channel right now. I'll read it off to you guys if you two haven't seen it. So what is the room you're most tired of this?

speaker-2 (07:01.016)
But.

speaker-2 (07:14.062)
Did you hear the latest? Do there's two. The Max Crosby is no longer going to play football, he's going to play European football because he bought into a team. So that means he's getting ready to go. And then the one today was he had this this influencer who's into mental health and weightlifting. So now Max is going to, you know, leave the Raiders and go do that for a little bit as well. So just putting it out there, just putting it out there. Don't shoot the messenger.

speaker-0 (07:15.884)
Which one?

speaker-0 (07:26.264)
There you

speaker-1 (07:27.33)
bro.

speaker-0 (07:45.676)
Jesus Christ. Well, here's here's the, here's the questions on my poll. So what, what is the room where you are most tired of? First one is max wants out and we will trade. We're going to trade the number one pick Mendoza is the savior for the Raiders and we always mess up the draft picks. So there's your four options.

speaker-2 (08:05.516)
Well, number four is not really too far.

speaker-1 (08:10.4)
Yeah.

speaker-0 (08:11.884)
he's a leader at eighty seventy five percent

speaker-2 (08:13.012)
Yeah.

Well, I'm pretty sure everyone's tired of Max.

speaker-0 (08:19.97)
What's up, 805?

speaker-2 (08:23.95)
What a Bob what's going on Raquel I need to get that show again

speaker-0 (08:28.706)
Manuel, so what's up, my man?

speaker-1 (08:32.151)
Raider Shopping Max. Now that's another one, Raider Shopping Max.

speaker-0 (08:35.758)
What's up Dave we draft them in knows in number one hate that damn room I mean to

speaker-2 (08:41.774)
I mean, I guess that one is he's going number one period, whether it's us or somebody else. That's just the conversation we're trying to have. And I think that's where it gets twisted when it comes to me and you, Jeff. Right. Thinking that he shouldn't go number one. It's not that he shouldn't go number one. We know he's going to go number one. I mean, you just don't want it necessarily to have to just be us. There could be other options. Yeah.

speaker-0 (08:52.684)
Yeah.

speaker-2 (09:11.534)
I like that one, Manuel.

speaker-1 (09:13.998)
and

speaker-0 (09:17.356)
Next is gonna be us, we come part of SpaceX and fight.

speaker-2 (09:21.254)
speaker-0 (09:26.334)
as well as now in on Windows or number one just

speaker-2 (09:29.294)
Answer that like what I just said, it's not that you're against him being number one, right? you think he's going number one regardless of the team that's picking him Is he gonna get picked number one?

speaker-0 (09:40.812)
Regardless of who the team is?

speaker-2 (09:42.21)
Yeah, regardless of who the team is, is he getting picked number one?

speaker-1 (09:45.454)
Weber is moving up to number one. Absolutely, Cheeto. I mean, it doesn't make any other sense.

speaker-2 (09:50.776)
So he's going number one,

speaker-1 (09:52.694)
He's going number one. I'll be like.

speaker-0 (09:54.158)
I think it depends on who the team, in all honesty, think it really depends on who the team that held that would hold the number one. If it wasn't Oslo or the Jets, it's going to be a different player at number one.

speaker-1 (10:04.718)
I love that Jeff, but I'll be like if right now if anybody's making a move up to number one to trade with us, it's for Mendoza. Period. I'll be like if anybody's making a move for us it's for Mendoza.

speaker-2 (10:14.049)
Yeah.

speaker-0 (10:17.944)
The one like, like you think Tennessee would take him if they had the number one pick.

speaker-2 (10:22.018)
But why would Tennessee move up to number one?

speaker-0 (10:28.547)
We don't even- we shouldn't even be taking him at number one, sorry.

speaker-2 (10:31.8)
That's not the debate, my thing, that's the problem. It's not that we're saying he's not gonna go number one. It's that we're open to options, right? If somebody was willing to trade it. The fact that he's going number one, I think is like gonna happen. Whether it's us or somebody.

speaker-0 (10:51.118)
I imagine.

speaker-2 (10:52.758)
Hey, Lorenzo, let's get him to come to Bakersfield before he leaves us. out to Lorenzo. Hey, make sure you get your summer kickoff ticket. You know, they're doing it a little different this year. There's personal canopy space is available this year, so they are limited. So make sure you hit up Raider Crusaders on our boy Lorenzo. And because you would definitely see me myself, 805 severe, we'll all be out there again. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

speaker-0 (11:16.238)
I'm treating it. Don't tell me how to room up my

speaker-2 (11:20.226)
Bad, my bad, it'll f-

speaker-1 (11:21.996)
Yeah.

speaker-0 (11:24.614)
Thank you, Mike. Don't forget to that subscribe on all three channels if you haven't already. Do you trust me, Bailey?

speaker-2 (11:35.426)
Bro, trust me, Pig, I've been working on a how to rumors get started t-shirt.

speaker-0 (11:43.534)
the

speaker-2 (11:54.222)
They're really pretty

speaker-2 (11:58.222)
Which one's wasted again?

speaker-1 (12:00.033)
The chat goes on with crap.

speaker-2 (12:02.414)
okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

speaker-0 (12:03.97)
That was on me. Big bye. That's a goddamn.

speaker-1 (12:09.144)
Well, I think it's because everybody is so enclosed man. I mean like yeah, I get it. The quarterback is the primary position that everybody wants and honestly I can see what they're saying. When is another opportunity that we're going to be able to get a quarterback? God be like and that's where people and I get what they're saying. I get where they're coming from and that is.

speaker-2 (12:28.59)
100 % like a legit reason like yeah, it makes sense

speaker-1 (12:33.006)
When is another when is the other opportunity because we keep saying hey the draft is going to get better next year. That's what they said last year for the quarterback draft this year. I'll be like that's what a lot of people were saying for a lot for this year's draft and you know we keep saying hey next year that quarterback draft is going to be better, but we don't know.

speaker-2 (12:42.99)
I didn't say that last year

speaker-2 (12:53.038)
think a lot of parrots say that because they hear it on ESPN and then they repeat it without even realizing or looking at who the class is going to be next.

speaker-1 (13:03.367)
All And so I'll ask you this, Tito, do you believe next year's quarterback class is going to be better?

speaker-2 (13:08.17)
It can be. But like I said earlier on our shows, a lot of it has to do one injury because look at what happened this year with drew all or he got hurt. Stock completely dropped right the way they had a drew. Aller was one of the top ones. Yeah. Nussmeyer looking Nussmeyer Nussmeyer was supposed to be one of the best ones coming into this year's drive from right now. You're like, what this do you might just participate in the combine just to get a stock up like you did in the senior bowl? You know, it can be. It's like you don't know who's coming out.

You don't know if it's arch. You don't know if more is going to come out, even though he stayed in one more year, right? Like you really don't know until it comes that time. Yeah, so it's a risk. It is a risk. Yeah.

speaker-1 (13:49.23)
So and I get that when they say, hey man, like, when are we going to get another opportunity? And I can't, and I can't hate on them for having that thought because I'm like Cheeto, like you said, and I just said, when is the next time we

speaker-2 (14:02.572)
Nope. All right, right, right.

speaker-0 (14:04.334)
In all honesty, only reason I'm really pushing to trade out of the number one is because of how many more picks we can get out of it based on the team has. We don't have as many needs next year. So if we did for some reason finish with the number one for next year, we use the number one pick. We don't trade out of it. This year, I think we needed to trade out of it.

speaker-2 (14:12.462)
Bye!

speaker-2 (14:25.922)
I think, I think one thing that I did notice a lot was, was people just saying the, the, need, we need, we need, need, of course we need, we're drafting number one for a fucking reason. Right. We have a lot of needs. If we didn't have a lot of needs and we wouldn't have the number one fucking pick, right. Now the, I think the notion where a lot of us goes, we're not ready to have a quarterback. get it. But what team picking number one is picking number one for a fucking reason.

Right. They suck. But to Jess point, it just goes to how you're going to go about building it. Right. Do you go and get the guy because he's there and you keep building each year or do you stack up on draft picks? Right. And you use that draft, this draft to get multiple people or even say the Max. That's why I like as much as I fuck with Jeff about Max. Logically, it makes sense. You trade him.

You get capital. You use that wisely to develop your team because you have multiple needs. Right. Like I get, need online. We need a quarterback. We need everything. We need everything. There's a reason we're picking number one, you know, we need, and the whole time we're all talking offense. We completely forget about the defense. Like we need linebackers bro. Right. We need corners. Like, are we really going into next season? Hoping that we resigned Eric Stokes and that our rookie.

speaker-1 (15:40.738)
Yep.

You need quarters,

speaker-2 (15:52.046)
is developing even more and that's only two, right? Like who else?

speaker-1 (15:56.334)
100%. And then you'd look at Palo Mao and I mean, like, look at our savings is Jeremy Chen really the long term solution there? I'd be like, there's a lot of like questions that

speaker-2 (16:07.054)
And the U.S. Palomar was playing out of position last year. Yeah, right. Like to me, I think that's the thing is how is the the new DC, how is he going to use these new players? How's his game going to differ? You know, because a lot of it right now, we're blaming it on Pete and that cover three system. Right. That Pete and that cover three. Right. How did that work? How was that?

speaker-0 (16:31.118)
Jack Jeff wants to trade everything and Jack wants APJ to play center and center only and only player that will play for the weight is Jim Otto. So Jack, I got you. And if anybody hasn't noticed yet underneath my name, Gutsnow, I do and will ship to you. So if you need some snow, let me know. I got about three feet of it on my property right now. We got another think anywhere from four to five inches coming overnight tonight into tomorrow. And then we got another

speaker-2 (16:41.592)
You're right, right.

speaker-0 (17:01.25)
decent size storm coming again this weekend. anybody needs snow. I'll ship it to you.

speaker-2 (17:07.288)
Sir, I would like some snow. Can you send some over please?

speaker-1 (17:12.586)
Shoot.

speaker-2 (17:15.662)
I had a busy weekend last week and so I didn't get a chance to go up to the mountains and they started melting already because we're in SoCal. So yeah.

speaker-0 (17:24.993)
Well, before we get into the Max talk, the Mendoza and all that, I want to bring this up. So we're to talk a little bit of the underwear Olympics because it's this weekend.

speaker-2 (17:34.498)
Jeff, what is the Underwear Olympics?

speaker-1 (17:36.748)
Come here!

speaker-0 (17:37.198)
The 2026 South Scouting

speaker-2 (17:40.302)
Right.

Right after you make sure there ain't no yellow snow.

speaker-0 (17:48.638)
Yeah. These are just basically the by position group. The days that if you're going to watch it, these are the these are the days like that's when they're going to do their stuff. So DB's sorry, the defensive line linebackers and kickers are on the 26. That's when they're doing their on the field stuff. They're they're 40s. They're actual run drills and all that other shit.

speaker-1 (17:49.08)
That's

speaker-2 (17:54.488)
Uh-huh.

speaker-0 (18:18.656)
On the 27th, which is Friday is the defensive backs and the tight ends. That's their on field workout day. So that'll be Friday day. Saturday is the big one. like the skill positions basically. So it's going to be a QBs, you're running backs and wide receivers on Saturday. I will probably be live during that. Like I was last year.

speaker-2 (18:29.102)
Mm-hmm.

speaker-0 (18:44.078)
But the one I really want to pay attention to again this year, just like last year, is this one. That's Sunday, so that's going to be the offensive line one.

speaker-2 (18:48.994)
Yeah.

speaker-1 (18:50.286)
I think that's

speaker-2 (18:54.732)
And you want to pay attention to that one.

speaker-0 (18:58.19)
Why? I want to see what some of these guys, you know, like I want to see this kid from Iowa. I want to see a few others. I want to see what slaughter does. You know, I want to see what some of these other things because as of right now, I don't know if anybody else has heard this yet. There was the rumor out there about Lindner bomb. Supposedly, Baltimore offered him the bag. Really good contract.

speaker-0 (19:28.79)
He's the best

Yeah. They went from the rumors is they went above and beyond what his market value is. So they basically out pricing him from anybody else that wants to go and get him unless you really, really overpay. So it's going to be a bidding law for him.

speaker-2 (19:47.022)
Better than that what was said that was gonna happen from the get-go anyway with him.

speaker-0 (19:50.932)
yeah, we had talked about that, but I didn't think Baltimore was going to have the cap space to do it for the ship. They might be in the works to rework and someone's contract that we don't know about. So they may have just been prepared.

speaker-2 (20:01.762)
the chiefs reworked my home's contract so they can have more cap space.

speaker-0 (20:05.836)
Yep. So we'll know a little bit more coming up. so basically what rate of fin should watch for. So on the QBs, you want to watch mechanics and arm talent. Cause don't forget, yes, I know it's Mendoza, but there's other quarterbacks in this draft. you still want to watch for them too. We should grab two quarterbacks.

speaker-2 (20:23.967)
I think the only one that might throw Simpson from what I saw. think the other ones are doing it just for their pro day. Yeah.

speaker-1 (20:32.374)
Is Diego Pabllo not throwing at the combine?

speaker-2 (20:35.138)
Diego's going to do everything in his life. But he might not, though, because.

speaker-1 (20:37.87)
You know

speaker-1 (20:44.002)
Go ahead. Can hurt you. But let me ask you this, Chido. So when you're in his situation, because his situation is total opposite, right? He's a kid that's being looked at as a partier, a kid that's a bad apple, probably things like that, right? Total opposite of Mendoza. But Jeff just hit something on the head. We have to look for a quarterback, maybe in the later rounds as well. We can't just go and say, hey, Mendoza is the only answer. Maybe we load up in later parts of the draft. We wait on a Diego.

speaker-2 (21:14.604)
You mean if we, if we pick Mendoza, we pick another one.

speaker-1 (21:19.138)
Later on in the draft in seven?

speaker-2 (21:21.262)
That would be dumb if we did that. would be dumb if we did that. Basing out on the fact that this kid is our number one overall pick, that's our future.

So why are we going to pick another one later on in the drive, even if it is six or seven?

speaker-0 (21:40.002)
What's up, Anthony? We should still be picking a quarterback.

speaker-2 (21:44.45)
No, no, I'm not saying no, but I said, if we pick Mendoza, why are we gonna get another one later on?

speaker-0 (21:50.766)
You have you got to think about it. Do you know more than likely is probably going to get cut? And if we don't bring in another quarterback like the rumor, you know, Kirk Cousins, whoever, then that means we're going to go into the season with just AOC and Mendoza, which means AOC is. You know, now we don't have that third quarterback.

speaker-2 (22:11.264)
Right you can go out and sign go sign them. There's veterans out there, but yeah

speaker-0 (22:13.986)
the quarterback situation. Now we have no viable backup immediately.

speaker-2 (22:19.69)
But I get that, but how does drafting a late round pick fix that problem? It doesn't, right?

speaker-0 (22:25.57)
Well, it doesn't, you still don't know you grab somebody late. You grab say new smile late in the draft.

speaker-2 (22:31.39)
No, no, I understand you, but you just don't not if you take my nose the number one

speaker-1 (22:36.312)
So I'll tell you like this, Cheeto, I see what you're saying, but I would do this. If you grab a veteran QB, like, if you bring in a Kirk Cousin,

speaker-2 (22:45.902)
Remember, remember, and this is why I hate doing the whole drafting because three agency comes first. Yeah. So by the time April comes, they could have signed another fucking say when Jamis Winston or whoever one of the fucking dudes that's out there, right? They could sign one of those dudes. And then at that point, you're like, well, OK, they're bringing in this guy to be the veteran guy while they draft Mendoza and he sits a year.

speaker-1 (22:52.654)
I

speaker-1 (23:14.303)
So this is what the question I was just about to ask you, Cheeto. You know, Kurt Cousins just became a free agent.

you look at it, do you take shot on Kirk Cousins? And sip Mendoza and say hey, you know.

speaker-2 (23:31.128)
think the funny thing with the cousins talk is we're talking, we always talk about the money, the money. we need this, we need that, we need that, right? Cousins ain't cheap, y'all. I don't know if y'all understand how many times cousins has gotten paid. Cousins is not cheap.

speaker-1 (23:45.121)
no, he's- he's exp-

speaker-0 (23:48.224)
So well, average price right now, basically for a veteran, it's going to be about the 30 mil mark. And that's the goal rate. And that's the game for him.

speaker-2 (23:54.67)
Exactly, exactly.

Right. Yeah. So why would you invest that much? Like that.

speaker-0 (24:03.906)
gonna button some fucking you know that's sure

speaker-2 (24:07.702)
Right now, but why would you invest that much of your salary cap? When you just said earlier, Jeff, in the beginning, we have so many needs. Why are you going to invest that in a veteran quarterback who's only going to be here for what a year before we let Mendoza take over?

speaker-0 (24:25.006)
That's why I'm fine with sticking with Gino for another year. I don't see why not. even. I know you're here. You know, now there's 18 mil dead cap on you. Then you go. You're paying one quarterback that's not here anymore to pay another quarterback that's going to come in for one year possibly. Maybe you sign him for two years. What's what's the sense in it? Why? Why we think when we need all the money we can get to bring guys in.

speaker-2 (24:28.856)
Even O'Connell!

speaker-2 (24:43.991)
speaker-2 (24:51.062)
Let's just bring back Derek Carr. Why not?

speaker-1 (24:53.664)
I'll bet you'll come.

speaker-2 (24:56.588)
Alright.

speaker-1 (25:00.686)
So are we said, let me ask. So I thought Gino's time was done with us.

speaker-2 (25:06.112)
Why would you say that?

speaker-1 (25:07.662)
I'd be like, I'd be like, honestly, when you flip off the fans.

speaker-2 (25:12.812)
Okay, first off, we're not gonna do the whole flip off the fan sings when the fans themselves are the ones being soft when they flip them off as well.

speaker-1 (25:19.97)
No, no, no, no, I'm just saying you're disgruntled.

speaker-2 (25:22.152)
When he flipped off Seattle, motherfuckers made shirts about it. And we're wearing that shit proudly.

speaker-1 (25:28.446)
I get you Cheeto.

speaker-2 (25:30.259)
like what

I know that I'm not saying he was

speaker-1 (25:36.362)
That's why I'm saying I'm not saying like hey, he was disgruntled. He wasn't happy So I'll be like I really Howard how do you even come back and try to smooth that out with Gino and say hey, like our fan base is just a bunch of assholes and Just come back and play for us

speaker-2 (25:54.946)
No, I think we talked about this before. That relationship is ruined just in general about the environment from being able to play here that way moving forward. The pushback that would come from the fans, right? The fact that he was still here. The minute he threw one incomplete pass, the booze would come out and then you'd be more pressured to bring Mendoza in. Even if we were winning.

speaker-1 (26:20.578)
No, 100 %!

speaker-2 (26:22.434)
Yeah, but there's so many other quarterbacks out there that you could bring in.

speaker-1 (26:27.662)
Who would you like to see?

speaker-2 (26:29.998)
Aw man. I like Jamus. I like Jamus. media television purposes. I would love to see-

speaker-0 (26:39.588)
Jesus. That's like the people that they want to draft. Mendoza just because he's a God fearing man. Other reasons just like that.

speaker-2 (26:47.982)
I thought I'm safe!

speaker-2 (26:51.854)
Imagine pairing those two together though. Imagine pairing Mendoza with Winston, bro. Like, it-

speaker-0 (27:00.096)
I hope we'd end up on Hodnox because that's comedy gold.

speaker-2 (27:03.726)
That's what I'm saying. Like that's what I loved about James when I saw him on Hard Knocks. Was he such a cool fucking dude? You know what I mean? Like I just love to see him like wear our fucking arrayed jersey. I mean, hey, I don't know.

speaker-0 (27:18.574)
Just real quick, I want to get through these and then we can talk about whatever. Yeah. What Raider fans should watch. So I'm a QB's mechanics and on talent. You won't have to see that from Mendoza because he's not throwing, which I think is ridiculous. should throw. anyway. Why not? Because he want to show off his incompetence.

speaker-1 (27:31.948)
No.

speaker-1 (27:37.359)
And this is the

speaker-0 (27:39.832)
the

speaker-1 (27:48.812)
Because it does it because everybody's going to be talking about it, Jeff.

speaker-2 (27:53.144)
Time out, time out. If you're this competitor who loves to con- Why are you afraid of hurting your stock?

speaker-1 (27:57.04)
I get what you're saying

speaker-1 (28:01.534)
Every single quarterback has done it.

speaker-2 (28:04.312)
I get that. know that. You don't tell me. I know why he's not doing it. I'm just helping Jeff argue his point.

speaker-1 (28:10.318)
And I get what Jeff is saying. What I'm telling you is, just right now, it's just not done anymore, Jeff. For them, because people will go out and say, my gosh, did you see how terrible he was at the combine? but he's no longer the number one draft. And you know how it is.

speaker-0 (28:14.338)
You can expect

speaker-0 (28:21.143)
Why not?

speaker-0 (28:32.302)
then don't fucking combine then. What do you want me to say? But the guys that are out there for the linemen or whatever, their stock can rise and fall because they misstep on what the coach. Let's put it this way. If you watch the offensive line when they do their thing, the coaches give them direction one time. They say it and then they have a guy run through it and that's it. And then they just do it. And if you mess up, you mess up. Guess what? That's the battle. Drop your stock a little bit. So if they're telling you is the quarterback.

speaker-2 (28:32.91)
What the?

speaker-0 (29:02.434)
do this, throw this pass to this guy. He's going to, okay. And you overthrow him or you way on the throw him. That's on you as the player because you're not doing what you're supposed to be able to do by putting the ball in that guy's hands. And don't give me this. well, he's not familiar throwing to him.

speaker-1 (29:18.83)
So let me ask you this, Jeff.

speaker-0 (29:21.051)
for the

speaker-2 (29:27.626)
Throw into Megatron Jr. And he can't hit him.

speaker-0 (29:29.813)
Yeah, right.

So anyway, why do Steve's you want to see their separation? We don't want to see guys like thought and who can't separate what the shit.

speaker-2 (29:39.854)
20 you bring up wide receivers because did you guys actually know who Xavier worthy was until he ran the 40?

speaker-1 (29:47.34)
No, I did not know who Xavier Worthy was.

speaker-0 (29:50.243)
really?

speaker-2 (29:50.958)
Now, I'm not saying he wasn't, he was a good receiver, but that's someone who by participating in the combine, upped his stock to be a first round pick. So it has its positives that it can do for you. Yeah.

speaker-0 (30:07.31)
And

speaker-1 (30:07.662)
It does right you know if you're a lower guy that's not very very looked at you got a Chance to shine and show what you can do like Jeff said offensive line. They're gonna check their hips check How they flow check how they move check their foot?

speaker-0 (30:21.814)
measurements, big time like offensive lineman, you know, if you're coming in as a tackle, one of the biggest thing that is this the sound point on you is your arm length. Yep. And you saw what happened with with Tyree Campbell in New England, bro. And all that was big knock on him last year in the even

speaker-2 (30:43.118)
The big thing with Tyree was his physical specimen of a body that he is. Right? Look at how big this dude, look at how long his arm, remember they had that thing of him next to a truck, right? With his wingspan.

speaker-1 (30:56.11)
Now he has a 7'4 wingspan.

speaker-2 (30:58.324)
right but but what did you do in the NFL

speaker-1 (31:00.61)
Listen to edit. Yeah, I'll be like right now people.

speaker-2 (31:06.368)
It's cool to have those. It's cool to have those. But I mean, hey, yeah.

speaker-1 (31:12.098)
But I'll tell you like this.

speaker-0 (31:13.57)
There's no QB and projected number one should ever throw in the combine when he has a pro data throw to play as he is familiar with it helps him and his teammates I get the help in his teammates. I understand that pot but look at CJ Stroud He didn't have to throw his at the combine and he didn't he put on one heck of a performance out there He solidified why he would be the number one

speaker-2 (31:35.032)
thing with CJ, CJ carried a lot of that stigma of bad OSU quarterbacks. And until that Georgia game, right? Cause a lot of people said he wasn't mobile enough. He proved the mobility. They're like, shit, he is mobile, right? So then of course he did the combine and he made himself more solidified in that thing, those doubts that people had. Although even in that draft, if you remember with CJ,

speaker-0 (31:41.097)
Yeah, he did.

speaker-2 (32:02.218)
There were some people who put that out there about him not being smart. That he scored the lowest score ever on the Wonderlicker.

speaker-1 (32:11.106)
Yeah, I remember that that was a knock on him. Was he the consensus number one, Cheeto? I don't think so. That's why he went out and performed because he was trying to elevate his stock. Yeah, because he wasn't the consensus.

speaker-2 (32:18.254)
No, Bryce. Bryce was always number one.

speaker-2 (32:27.746)
No, no, no, was.

speaker-0 (32:31.374)
again, on the offensive line, we will, still, and this is the wide receivers. want to see their separation and their 40 time, offensive line, definitely their footwork and like their ability to anchor down there. That that's a big one is the footwork. Cause that's what I was looking for a lot when during the combine last year. And which is the same thing I watched when I saw Caleb Rogers get out there. I didn't care about.

What went on with the play? I was focused on watching him when he finally got his first chance out there on the field. Yeah, and his overall stance like his his framework. He just looked good and it made me really shake my head. Like why is it taking this long for this guy to get out there with his first game right away? He already looks like he should have been playing for a few weeks already.

speaker-2 (33:17.208)
True, but then when he played against better talent, the Philly game, it showed why he needed more time to develop.

speaker-0 (33:24.79)
I know what you need. Yeah, there was nobody on that team. You're going to have to freaking.

speaker-2 (33:32.691)
about the Philly defensive line that shits no joke bro.

speaker-0 (33:37.646)
And then on the defensive line, the explosiveness, you know, how fast they get off the line, you know, what type of. That difference. And then obviously the interviews, leadership and football IQ. So make sure everybody's watching for this stuff. So again, here are the dates. So the 26 is DL in linebackers. 27 is defensive backs and tight ends, which is kind of like the boring one, I guess you could say.

speaker-2 (33:47.128)
They have.

speaker-1 (34:07.458)
Me, bro.

speaker-0 (34:08.234)
I want to look 40s on those and they're measurables because you want to see if shorter dude taller dude, you know

speaker-2 (34:15.579)
The one that gets the most views is probably the quarterback running back.

speaker-0 (34:19.822)
This is the Oh, your skill position. And also definitely tune in on that one on Saturday. And then because I mean, we're going to be looking for wide receivers, too. So I want to see who who's who's looking good out there, who's going to possibly move up on the, you know, the potential draft board here. And then March 1st is the offensive lineman. So Saturday and Sunday will be live for those. So. And that was it. That's the end of the slides. So through that today, real quick.

speaker-2 (34:42.573)
money

speaker-0 (34:48.75)
wanted to make sure we talked about that because again, it starts in, mean, they're already all there basically. They're already talking about players and interviewing players and such and coaches and GM talking to each other. So this was where deals will be made too. That's the other thing I think about. This is the first time that they're all together, you know, GMs, scouts, coaches, and also there's going to be a lot of talking. There's going to be a shit ton of rumors that come out of this for the next.

speaker-2 (34:53.838)
Yeah, they're already out there and stuff.

speaker-2 (35:17.23)
So get ready for more Max Crosby rumors.

speaker-0 (35:17.794)
The Rimmelmann is going be massive.

Yeah, because if you think the Max Crosby stuff stopped, forget it. It's gonna keep rolling.

speaker-2 (35:26.221)
Yeah

speaker-2 (35:30.082)
Yeah, I mean, I know, Will, you asked earlier, like the combine was coming where we're going to talk about today. Like, why does it matter? Like, what's the point of it? Honestly, I've always seen the combine as one. That's where people who are below the radar can stand out. You know, I agree. You don't watch the combine to go see Mendoza throw, right? Because he's not going to he's going to do his pro days. They've been doing this for a couple of years now. You know, Cam Ward didn't throw. It's been going on for years now.

Been going on for years these top guys don't throw the only saber for the pro days, right? but you get to see some of these guys like when you watch shows like 805 and then more you listen to Todd McShane and things like that the guys they bring up these guys to look out for You look at them on the tape right to like what Jeff was saying, right? You start to see that. Yeah, then you can start to see like hey this guy's that or somebody like I had no Xavier were they had no idea he was that fucking bad

When he ran that 40, I was like, God damn that dude. When you see shit like that, or even with running backs, you see running backs, gente, gente didn't run the 40 last year.

speaker-1 (36:32.152)
quick.

speaker-1 (36:40.928)
It was questionable, right?

speaker-0 (36:44.558)
Just walked in the water, sure enough.

speaker-2 (36:46.094)
Well, a lot of people said it was because he didn't want to because of the speed. said he didn't have to. He was already solidified at the top running back. So there was no need, but yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And honestly, I wasn't mad because I've seen running backs there run amazing 40, but they didn't have the other skills needed. Complete running backs in the NFL. Yeah.

speaker-1 (37:06.402)
Hey Archer.

speaker-1 (37:10.466)
You know what you know, I love what you said, man. It's abs. You're absolutely correct. What the draft is about is finding that guy that you see something late draft that you're like, who is that guy? What school is he from? And then the one thing that I do like is like, once you see that a lot of coaches are like, show me how that transfers over to the game. You start digging in on that guy. You can start looking in on that guy that you didn't see because you were like, hey man, he's at a division two. He's at the division three.

I'd be like, look at the senior book.

speaker-2 (37:41.582)
It's funny you bring that up because I was listening to Q's show and they were talking about one coach who used to work with Belichick and there was a scout and the scout used to tell Bill, hey, look at this guy. Look at this guy. I've seen this. I see him do that. Like as a scout and then Bill Belichick would tell him, okay, show me where what you're seeing translate to game film on the field.

speaker-1 (38:06.274)
He got that from me.

speaker-2 (38:07.534)
And I was like, dude, that's fucking like Bill Belichick. And that's fucking like you would say some shit like that. Yeah.

speaker-1 (38:14.946)
Belichick got that from Parcells. So I was reading the Bill Belichick's biography and he got that from Parcells. So that's super interesting.

speaker-2 (38:24.238)
Yeah.

speaker-0 (38:24.705)
of one.

speaker-2 (38:27.662)
Yeah, so it's cool when you see that.

speaker-0 (38:29.89)
No.

speaker-2 (38:33.048)
Well remember that year the Raiders fell in love with the Combine Warrior offensive lineman?

speaker-0 (38:37.74)
Well Armstrong, right? Wasn't it? what the hell was his name?

speaker-0 (38:45.474)
The guy because they're actually like I told you this before guy. They came here to give me quotes to replace our windows. That's his cousin.

speaker-2 (38:52.814)
think you did say something about that. I think you mentioned his name and you were like, who knows his name? And I remembered I was, oh, was that dude. We fucking drafted because he fucking amazing in the combine and then he couldn't block for shit.

speaker-0 (39:07.819)
Cuz that's how the guy even said it to me he goes hey, you know that guy You know that you guys drafted and he was like a superstar in the combine I said

speaker-2 (39:17.194)
I had a feeling it was Campbell something Bruce

speaker-2 (39:26.254)
Bruce fucking Campbell, bro

speaker-0 (39:30.982)
I gave him all my info and everything. I'm like, dude, I'd love to get him on a show someday. So I gave him all my info, but we didn't go with him for the window. So I never heard from him. Jason's right to medical evaluations.

speaker-2 (39:40.312)
Bye!

speaker-2 (39:46.502)
Yeah, that's another one too, That was the big thing with the. That was the big thing with PENIX. Can remember PENIX had been hurt so much. It was like a big thing to be able to look into PENIX's injury thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

speaker-0 (39:48.526)
Yeah, right.

detected yet.

speaker-0 (39:56.888)
No

speaker-0 (40:09.111)
so I'm just going to put the banner up and we're just going to free ball at this point. ready?

speaker-2 (40:16.61)
Yeah, GFam, I only had two left, bro. It was an amazing day at street.

speaker-0 (40:19.886)
Let's let everybody go at it now.

speaker-2 (40:22.158)
They left me with two dollars, bro. That was it you believe that shit. Yeah, she cuz bonitas was popping, bro

speaker-1 (40:30.442)
you were stripping bro I was like damn dude

speaker-0 (40:33.815)
the

speaker-1 (40:42.542)
I think Andrew Luck was Andrew Luck was

speaker-0 (40:46.478)
was a quarterback. just career. I. What the fuck was it? Maybe it wasn't a quarterback. Because it used to be one of Bill Belichick's famous things. He would always go look for the smartest guy. They weren't always necessarily the most talented. But he was always big on grab and really super intelligent guys that were easy to learn stuff. Those are the easiest ones. He always said that he could coach.

speaker-2 (41:11.307)
Not always sometimes he just went and got players Hernandez probably wasn't the brightest cookie in the in the box, but he was a fucking football player

speaker-0 (41:20.812)
No, I don't want to remember the leather wood. DB's 40 time vertical. That's jogger.

speaker-2 (41:25.39)
I'm gonna man, John Gruden's pick right there.

speaker-0 (41:33.186)
So we're not gonna talk about Max? I mean, put it up there, Max talk.

speaker-1 (41:36.674)
There's no reason to, I'd be like.

speaker-2 (41:38.254)
No, but I will say this and I think it's how when Max came on and he said He came out and said he wasn't People were mad cuz he didn't come out and said that he wasn't going anywhere, right? All he said was I just plan on being here. Whatever he said, right people took it all he never said he wasn't leaving I Didn't hear that same pushback today when spy tech said I expect him to be

Now we don't plan on

speaker-2 (42:13.066)
Right. Cause if Maxwell would have said some shit like I expect to be there. you hear that? He said, expect. That doesn't mean that's a for sure. This could have been his time to say, I'm not going anywhere. Nope. But spy tech said, I expect him to be here. You didn't hear all this outcry about like, they're going to dadada. You know, like come on now. Keep it the same for both of them. Now I'm not saying they're going to trade them. I understood what he meant by that. Even when they asked him at the end about the offers or whatever.

Right

speaker-1 (42:44.078)
I'll be like it's funny because people like and you told me will context I Was like, know, I was like, wait a minute Context but I get what you're saying people are gonna say because he said that we're listening Immediately we're trading match. We're trading them now. I'll be like you have to listen though I mean like if somebody came up and said and again the Micah Parsons trade and it's not happening because I'm telling you right now if it was happening People would be talking about it

I don't see two number ones and an extra guy coming. You know, so the trade value really for max, isn't what people think that it would be.

speaker-2 (43:25.303)
No.

speaker-1 (43:26.648)
So are you really gonna trade them for a one and a two? Or two number twos?

speaker-2 (43:32.536)
Hey, Jeff, take a wild guess. What position player had the highest wonderlick score ever?

speaker-0 (43:43.092)
Offensive linemen.

speaker-2 (43:46.061)
No.

speaker-0 (43:47.512)
What position?

speaker-2 (43:48.736)
It was a punter. The only player to get a perfect score on the Wonderleg test came from Harvard and he primarily played special teams. He was a punter. What a 50 perfect score of 50. Yeah. The second was Mike Mamoula defensive end. After that was Kevin Curtis wide receiver and then Ryan Fitzpatrick. He got a 48. Yeah.

speaker-0 (44:00.846)
If you see windows for a perfect.

speaker-0 (44:17.58)
Which factor is a smart dude? Yeah. He went to an Ivy league school, right?

speaker-1 (44:19.64)
Okay.

speaker-1 (44:23.086)
Harvard graduate.

speaker-2 (44:24.229)
Yeah, Harvard Harvard project and Ben Watson a tiny and you remember yeah, Ben Watson got was fucking 48. Yeah

speaker-2 (44:42.508)
That's crazy, that's crazy.

speaker-0 (44:44.878)
Actually, silver smoke usually goes to the combine. lives right in Indianapolis. I haven't talked to him. I

speaker-2 (44:50.542)
would be cool to go if you lived nearby. That would be some cool shit.

speaker-0 (44:53.006)
Last year he he when I was live he he called the he came in live on the channel while he was there Did he had a real? Yeah, yeah, he had a bad feed while he was there. So it was really tough to see We happen to be on the phone with him When I forgot who it was that was running

speaker-2 (45:15.675)
wow, Frank Gorka

speaker-0 (45:16.974)
I think it was when the running backs were doing their 50s, their 40s.

some of the other, you know, like obviously the Mario Hampton and some of those other guys were going through when he was.

speaker-2 (45:32.29)
down.

speaker-0 (45:34.126)
But he was even talking about the wide receivers, I just have fastened them for more.

speaker-2 (45:37.71)
I would go to meet the to meet the players to network with some of the other people. Yeah

speaker-0 (45:42.638)
you

speaker-2 (45:48.314)
Yeah, when I've gone to private practices, you meet a lot of the dudes, a lot of the writers that way. They just walk around, come up to you. Like, hey, so and so, da da da. This is what I saw. What do you think?

speaker-0 (45:59.662)
the

speaker-2 (46:11.534)
Honestly bro, I wouldn't even panic

speaker-0 (46:16.428)
Because I know that I'm just saying how funny would that be if you like really bombs this thing? I think it would be hilarious.

speaker-2 (46:21.205)
Yeah.

It would be funny because you would see a lot of content coming out about we bombed it and yeah. And I think to me it's like when you, when they talk about him being smart, I don't necessarily think they mean his grade point average. They mean his football smarts when they talk about him being smart.

speaker-0 (46:41.39)
I think everything though, think is, I think is even as yeah, his academics and everything, he's up there.

speaker-2 (46:46.828)
What's his GPA at Indiana?

speaker-0 (46:49.243)
That I don't know. I'd have to look it up. I'm not sure.

speaker-2 (46:52.222)
That's what I'm saying. So why are people saying he's smart in school too? Like, how do they know?

speaker-0 (46:55.758)
Well, they might know that. I just didn't look it up myself. never had the desire to.

speaker-2 (47:01.048)
Yeah, Vince Young bombed the one. So I Frank Gore. Frank Gore was one of the lowest scorers too. Yeah.

speaker-1 (47:06.936)
Just as you do good on the Wonderleak doesn't mean you're going to be a good football. So I'll say like at the end of the day, the Wonderleak is only one evaluation part of the whole process.

speaker-2 (47:10.779)
no no no

speaker-0 (47:23.214)
Accepted a he better score higher. I'll laugh my ass off. Exactly. That'll be funny though. I thought so

speaker-2 (47:34.072)
Yeah, I don't think it would matter to me because it's more about his football

speaker-0 (47:36.984)
Thank you.

speaker-2 (47:39.52)
I the perfect example was remember the movie, the program,

Remember Alvin Mack? Right? Box rocks could not read, could not spell. when they asked. The film study in the room. Cry.

speaker-1 (47:55.531)
speaker-2 (47:59.79)
you

speaker-2 (48:09.39)
Play telly.

speaker-2 (48:17.442)
The coach has what has them identified the offense the other team is running and then what the defensive call is gonna be and then third was what his assignment was That motherfucker was like boom boom boom That's all I want our football players to have is that football smarts I don't give a fuck about the other part

speaker-0 (48:38.123)
Yeah, really,

speaker-2 (48:40.526)
man.

speaker-1 (48:48.142)
So he's coming off me to hold off on trade value. We can't hold off on trade value.

speaker-0 (48:58.062)
All right, do you know how to read, Mike?

speaker-1 (49:00.076)
What it is? Yeah, it's just hold on.

speaker-0 (49:03.0)
his message. says, he goes, Max is coming off a major surgery. Hold expectations on what he is valued at until he is healthy. That's what he's trying to say.

speaker-1 (49:12.918)
Yeah, but I'd be like, we can't hold on expectations.

speaker-0 (49:16.287)
EY!

speaker-2 (49:17.195)
He's not telling you to hold on, he's saying your expectations.

speaker-0 (49:20.822)
You're going to hold back on the expectation.

speaker-1 (49:22.766)
I get you, I get you. I was like,

speaker-2 (49:25.122)
Relax, Tigger, relax.

speaker-0 (49:26.612)
the

speaker-1 (49:28.78)
YERRRR

speaker-2 (49:30.348)
Hey, I actually got to draw Yeah They taught us how to draw to draw strings around the fret well

speaker-0 (49:33.496)
Bye bye, guys.

fucking marine.

speaker-1 (49:43.14)
Shit.

speaker-0 (49:44.969)
Thank you.

speaker-2 (49:46.206)
I love you, Doc.

speaker-1 (49:48.712)
Fucking...

speaker-0 (49:49.742)
I

speaker-2 (49:51.054)
I saw another one the other day and I was gonna send it to you, but I got caught up in what I was doing. But this time it wasn't one of you guys, it was one of my guys. I was like, happens in every branch.

speaker-1 (49:59.342)
Go by.

speaker-1 (50:02.882)
He does,

speaker-0 (50:03.598)
I love the G-Fam

speaker-2 (50:08.546)
What's up, G-F?

speaker-1 (50:09.794)
Let's go G fam.

speaker-0 (50:12.446)
My stream elements is finally working. He's definitely a smart kid. talk about how he doesn't need football. He'd crush it with his own business or something. Yeah.

speaker-2 (50:26.28)
Buendosa, that doesn't sound right.

speaker-1 (50:29.624)
So and.

speaker-2 (50:31.134)
The land the Nandalorian sounds better

speaker-1 (50:34.114)
Hey Cheeto, so you know they asked Bytech today about the NIL and how he feels like, you know, it's affected kids coming out. And he, he came out with the response that really like, it caught me a little bit off guard, but he's like, you know, I kind of like it. He's like, it shows me what kids are really about when they already get the money. Yeah. You know, and a lot of people hate on the NIL for, you know, saying, man, these kids are getting paid.

And this would be like, I really, that response really like, was like, Hey man, that that's factual right there as a GM that shows you, if this kid got paid in college and he's still busting his ass, making millions of dollars, he's going to do it in the NFL.

speaker-2 (51:20.846)
put it this way. Jamarcus Russell was a physical specimen. Had a fucking cannon, big games, all that shit, right? The knock on him was when he got his money, he stopped trying. It changed him, right? He didn't have to anymore. Now imagine if Jamarcus would've got paid in college. It would've shown a little bit more, wouldn't have? You would've been a little more reluctant, like what the fuck is this we're doing with that money? See what he's doing.

But remember, they used to come younger, too. They used to come younger. Yeah. You're talking about, oh, 19, 20 year olds, right? Right now. Now we got 23, 24 year olds. Like, what the fuck? Yeah, no, yeah, I heard what he said, and it was definitely a good insight and a way of looking at the new college player. And we've talked about that, too. Remember, Jeff, about how certain players that bounce around schools. What does that say about them character wise?

speaker-1 (52:00.002)
We got 26 year old coming out to get a draft.

speaker-0 (52:13.806)
school.

speaker-2 (52:17.068)
As opposed to a kid who stayed with the same program, you know, for multiple years. Now I get it. There's circumstances where your coach leaves. So you, you went for the coach. So if he left, you're leaving too, but I mean, the ones that just bounce around to paycheck to paycheck. I'm sure that gets into the GM's mindset about when they're evaluating this guy, this guy, you know?

speaker-0 (52:36.276)
Like what's his loyalty and you know, like if you stick it out with a shitty team, but you're just phenomenal at your position and what you do and everything, you're just that top notch guy. Then that speaks volumes to me because you don't care what team you're on. You're still out there balling and you're making a, you know, you're making a name for yourself and you're doing what you can to help this team win. Right. You know, but if all of a you're on a shitty team and you're like, I'm out of here and skips to another team.

speaker-2 (52:38.917)
Yeah, yeah,

speaker-0 (53:04.683)
And the G family didn't say that right. It's wicked smart. You got to get rid of that.

speaker-0 (53:11.82)
We reached 3A's in that.

speaker-2 (53:13.55)
man, yeah, yeah, it's it's it's part of the new way of evaluating these kids. It's different. Yeah.

speaker-1 (53:24.238)
And I mean, like, also said something else interesting, which I know the chat, bro, is probably going to kill me because they already said it. You don't draft a guy number one to sit him on the bench, but he said, hey, I might draft a guy number one and sit him on the bench.

speaker-2 (53:36.366)
I think it depends on who's the one saying that when you say you don't draft the guy to sit him on the bench

speaker-1 (53:43.31)
That's what the chat is saying. I just said, the GM, right?

speaker-0 (53:46.062)
I said it like

speaker-2 (53:49.546)
Get it as a fan as a fan if we're drafting to do number one, I want to see him on the field, right?

speaker-1 (53:57.954)
Yeah, I agree with you. But you know, I like that. mean, like all the things that he said today made a lot of sense to me. I'll be like when he's like, hey, I can draft the guy.

speaker-2 (54:08.934)
You know the coolest part about spy tech now, Jeff, and I don't know if you noticed it, but last year it seemed like Pete did more of the talking than the spy tech. This year you see spy tech's personality more on the team than we did last year.

speaker-0 (54:25.686)
I think it's his personality, but he's he's in charge. Yes. Coming in is in charge and making the decision. You know, like he's already got a big media presence this week at the combine than he did last year. Last year he was just like, there's the GM. but he has me. Carol, let's go talk to you. I get it. I definitely get it. You know, it just goes to show.

speaker-2 (54:31.746)
That's what I mean. Yeah.

speaker-0 (54:53.144)
how much control he actually had on this team last year. he should be the focal point. know, mean, Kubiak, it doesn't even seem like he, don't see him all over the place being interviewed and you know, you're not in the same meaning as like spy tech where he's like everywhere. Every time I turn around, there's this something coming out about spy tech saying this, saying that.

speaker-2 (54:56.302)
Right, right.

speaker-2 (55:06.264)
No, he's he's too-

no no no

speaker-2 (55:17.42)
Yeah, he's a he'll be interviewed tomorrow and a shape G fam. Thank you, brother. Appreciate it

speaker-0 (55:22.584)
Shout out to GFam, the five members gifted on Cheetah Linus.

speaker-2 (55:27.146)
Mm-hmm. But yeah, man, that thing with spy tech, I noticed it and a part of me is bugged. That didn't happen last year. But then I have to remember that because it was Pete Carroll, I guess they gave him that control because of his name. Right. Well, he's the he's the veteran. He's the one who's done it before. So maybe, you know, John, you sit back a little and maybe you learn, you know, from his experience this year or whatever the fuck. Right.

But this year, like I'm buying into the spy tech so far this year, man. We'll see what happens after March 11th, right? When March 11th comes, you know, and we're like two weeks in and we're over here like, wow, fuck, you know, next year might be a little different. Yeah.

speaker-1 (56:13.942)
I'd be like this year it's been like that from the beginning from the hiring of Kubiak. Mark has taken a step back. He's letting spy tech come out in front and he's being the lead dog.

speaker-2 (56:25.87)
I don't think Mark ever was the guy though.

speaker-1 (56:28.694)
Yeah, but I'd be like if when you looked at him as the franchise, everybody, you know, always had him and his dad, right? As the face of the franchise. you know, so I'll be like, now he's like really even taking a step back where he didn't even make it to the podium to announce that coach. It's huge.

speaker-0 (56:43.544)
Which was.

speaker-1 (56:48.76)
blue collar gym. How do you know this? I'd be like, do you do these guys like live with Mendoza? And like, do you not have a job or something, bro? He's gym rat. He's

speaker-2 (57:00.722)
You I don't think you understand the day and age you live in you can basically know everything about these motherfuckers through social media alone

speaker-0 (57:11.724)
You go back 10 years ago.

speaker-1 (57:13.102)
that they want to post about themselves.

speaker-2 (57:13.387)
You got hype

speaker-2 (57:17.09)
They had enough interest in you, they would, but they don't. So be grateful. Right. Yeah, no, no, for real. That's real talk. Imagine being like that that much where people can look at everything you do, you know.

speaker-1 (57:41.567)
Yo has a football. Go Harvard every year.

speaker-2 (57:42.422)
Yeah, they do. Yeah, I have a photo.

speaker-0 (57:45.526)
Yeah, but then...

speaker-2 (57:47.362)
Because they don't win. They're not known for their football program.

speaker-0 (57:51.572)
if he's that good they would have won four championships he's the guy remember he's the consensus number one overall pick for the eternity of my man he's the savior of raider nation let's go

speaker-2 (57:54.613)
God

speaker-2 (58:02.464)
Jeffrey

speaker-2 (58:09.198)
Hey, he's such a gym rat. works out at Planet Fitness now, right?

speaker-0 (58:16.846)
wear no quarterback jersey and it's not because of Mendoza's just this frame does not look good wearing small guy. Yeah, he needs a

speaker-1 (58:17.791)
Yeah. Get outta here.

speaker-2 (58:19.937)
Yeah

speaker-2 (58:27.444)
He needs a three digit jersey!

speaker-1 (58:30.658)
Damn, he said three digits.

speaker-2 (58:33.518)
have one too. Well, I didn't know. on Jeff. I have one. I have one that has my error code. 909, three-digit jersey.

speaker-0 (58:39.054)
I need a four digit.

speaker-2 (58:41.688)
I didn't go that far.

speaker-1 (58:43.214)
He's almost zip code.

speaker-2 (58:45.966)
He's like, what the f-

speaker-0 (58:46.574)
Good. Two players numbers at one time. I'll have like double zero and 63, you know.

speaker-2 (58:52.11)
Yeah, no, it's different. It's different in Ivy League.

speaker-0 (58:58.466)
Pause it.

speaker-1 (58:59.468)
Yep, absolutely.

speaker-2 (59:01.11)
What up Tanner? What's going on brother?

speaker-0 (59:03.182)
previous con.

speaker-2 (59:06.604)
I'm not as high as Spitek as a lot. No, with reason though, because there's a lot of reason not to. You look at last year's free agency, bro. It was not a success. His job is to do that. And if you go by it last year, whatever you say, it wasn't him, was Pete, whoever. That's his job and it falls on him. And all we got was what? Kappa, Ylanden Roberts, right? Eric Stokes.

We lost Chase on we lost Blaine, right? So I understand the skepticism on him. But also like I'm open now more now where I start to see has more of an influence on the team.

speaker-0 (59:47.884)
GFam, the last comment I see from you was you were talking to Alex. I don't see anything else.

speaker-2 (59:54.232)
Yeah.

cap of the goat.

Uh-huh.

speaker-2 (01:00:05.006)
You had this really good interview with um Clintons dad. I don't know if you guys got a chance But the whole thing that just clips like here's a whole thing

speaker-1 (01:00:15.598)
I only heard the clips that he brought up.

speaker-2 (01:00:17.87)
No, no, no. That's what I'm saying. Like, no, you hear the whole thing. And I like to listen to them all the whole thing because it gives you a bigger context of how the story got there, what they were talking about when they got there. What do you say? Mendoza, what?

speaker-0 (01:00:30.476)
Is that if Mendoza wins the Super Bowl, Jeff will be wearing his shirt, hat, tattoos and a fridge full of Mendoza. What fuck are Mendoza treats?

speaker-2 (01:00:36.907)
HAHAHAHA

Right. You ever watch that movie? Yeah. Friday Night Lights. You remember when that girl made like that jello of the readyback? Roll ice cream treat. And she's like, here, I made this for you. That's what Jessamyn does and treat with a glass.

speaker-0 (01:00:47.01)
Yeah.

speaker-0 (01:01:02.894)
guess that's what Chairman Dozer lives his life like it's 1956.

speaker-2 (01:01:07.534)
Coach that's hilarious coach is not a Mendoza fan coach is not a Mendoza

speaker-0 (01:01:16.96)
This is the full chant. Yeah. Wow, you just call me fat. That's not

speaker-1 (01:01:18.915)
Wow.

speaker-2 (01:01:21.098)
Right? Damn, now we're f- gaming folks.

speaker-0 (01:01:23.854)
It's called a patch, too. Those are big-o lettuce, too. God damn it.

speaker-2 (01:01:27.456)
you

speaker-0 (01:01:31.66)
My tag was definitely handcuffed

speaker-1 (01:01:35.438)
And you know what? He wanted a lot of his guys. He wanted to trade a lot of the draft capital into at least somewhat. So the rumors are right.

speaker-2 (01:01:44.43)
What do mean a lot of the draft? He don't think he traded was.

speaker-2 (01:01:52.95)
Do trades? Who? Huh? Who?

speaker-1 (01:01:57.1)
I don't know the names,

speaker-2 (01:01:58.666)
You mentioned the rumor- don't just TIT the rumor, dog, tell us the rumor.

speaker-1 (01:02:03.438)
So from what the rumor.

speaker-2 (01:02:09.054)
aw bruh i didn't even fricking adjust that i will gfam i haven't i- dude i haven't even set up the store there's so much on that i haven't even done

speaker-1 (01:02:17.166)
I think he wanted to bring over, who was it?

speaker-1 (01:02:23.672)
Wanted to bring over some more offensive linemen. Also wanted to bring over some DB's from freaking Seattle. agree with that. to make more movement again. Supposedly there was in fighting inside of I'm going to get you this article cheeto. Supposedly there's some like some supposed in fighting.

speaker-2 (01:02:43.244)
I hope you didn't get it on Facebook. I'm just saying.

speaker-1 (01:02:45.806)
It was on like a freaking article

speaker-2 (01:02:48.148)
There was this there was this article floating around Facebook about how we signed this offensive lineman from the Lions and he can't wait to get here and play for us Yeah, what's going on man

speaker-1 (01:02:55.842)
What? No, no, that I haven't heard.

speaker-0 (01:02:57.453)
Yeah

speaker-2 (01:03:09.71)
Oh, and Tanner, I saw this list today. Thank you. Appreciate it, Big Dark. This is the Viva Los Raiders.

speaker-0 (01:03:12.181)
He your hat, Leo.

speaker-0 (01:03:18.655)
Italian colors.

speaker-2 (01:03:20.588)
Really?

speaker-0 (01:03:27.382)
the

speaker-2 (01:03:36.462)
think that's the part people get twisted. Right. Yeah, they think because we were like against or we're pro trade that it means that we're not going to be happy. They're like, no, at the end of the day, whoever the fuck is on our team, that's who we're going to cheer for.

speaker-0 (01:03:59.246)
Arne's got a question. Which of our own free agencies is top priority to re-sign?

speaker-2 (01:04:05.038)
Hmm the landing

Dokes.

speaker-0 (01:04:13.262)
We'll about tomorrow.

speaker-2 (01:04:14.902)
Nah.

speaker-0 (01:04:16.908)
What do you think about poons?

speaker-2 (01:04:19.406)
I wouldn't make him a priority necessarily. It's a lot. It depends on the price, bro. I think we gave him a lot for what we got last year. And the shitty part is one, we let Chase on go and paid him instead. And you saw the year Chase on had. And then the other part is like, this would be the year that he fully recovered from that injury. So this could be the year where he has a bigger year, right? Because his body would have fully recovered from that injury. Yeah.

speaker-0 (01:04:48.878)
Hopefully.

speaker-2 (01:04:49.676)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

speaker-1 (01:04:52.398)
I'll tell you like this with Coons, man.

speaker-0 (01:04:52.801)
ZOMB

speaker-1 (01:04:58.158)
We gave him $13 million as a proof it. So what is he going to take this year? Think he's going to take less than 13 million.

speaker-2 (01:05:07.982)
I know, maybe even he knows, hey, I didn't prove it unless there's other teens knocking, banging the door to bring him over, know? What up Israel, what's going on, big dark?

speaker-1 (01:05:20.77)
Man, blocks in there.

speaker-2 (01:05:23.02)
Yeah, we need to get we need to get a love lock or Steven back on the show.

speaker-0 (01:05:31.286)
All of God and colors.

speaker-1 (01:05:32.566)
Sacramento.

speaker-2 (01:05:33.518)
HA

The fuck are all of

speaker-2 (01:05:41.934)
That was a good one. That was a good one. Okay

speaker-0 (01:05:47.406)
Ramalai, he said 51's a bum.

speaker-2 (01:05:51.544)
Mm-hmm.

speaker-0 (01:05:53.057)
We're milk our yeah, what's up Israel?

speaker-2 (01:05:56.056)
That's funny, the guy on the milk carton.

speaker-0 (01:05:58.03)
your comments say otherwise Jeff that's a fact then you try to play it off and brace Fernando mania will feel what

How many times do have to explain this though?

speaker-2 (01:06:12.126)
see okay if I didn't know you and was on live with you all the time and I would just tune in every now and then or whatever I would think you don't want Fernando period he has no business no no no I mean but I know you

speaker-0 (01:06:23.93)
I explained this to you the other day too. No, no, no. And I explained it to you other day too is because so much of the chat is not paying attention. I'm not saying not to take the kid that he's not worth the position. What I'm what's happening is enough of the chats are pushing me to the point where I'm starting to hate the kid because they're just thrown it in my face. And it's forcing me to defend myself to the point where.

speaker-2 (01:06:47.37)
And that's where I think.

speaker-0 (01:06:53.26)
I don't even want the kid type of thing. Like I think he's garbage. That's what I don't think he is. But that's what it's coming off as because that's just the direction I'm being pushed now. It drives me nuts. It's like if we take him, we take him. I'm going to support him. I'm going to stand behind him. I'm not going to sit there and hope he fails.

speaker-2 (01:07:13.675)
ohhhh

Yeah!

speaker-0 (01:07:19.404)
Yeah.

speaker-2 (01:07:21.122)
You're right, you're right bro Jeff has his opinion

speaker-0 (01:07:23.8)
Believe it or not, that's crazy.

speaker-2 (01:07:26.67)
No, and I get it I think I think that's the part that gets miss Instrued and when you when you'd say you want to trade right? Yeah, yeah, I fuck with you all the time when you say trade max I go he hates max cross me. I know you don't hate him

speaker-0 (01:07:45.494)
I'm still holding a grudge with Max from last year when he was still on the contract and he was like, I want more money because I'm out of guarantee money. You bitch, you signed a contract. You're stuck on that for two more years or whatever the term was still left on. It's like play your contract out. You know, plain and simple.

speaker-2 (01:08:03.32)
Damn on your neck, that's fucking hardcore. Damn, Frank.

That's where you're hardcore. So yesterday I saw someone and I don't mean to judge, I don't mean to judge, but we were at Denny land. She had like that chicken wire fence, but on her neck.

I don't understand it. Like, I understand people get nicked. And that's what I'm saying. I'm not. Everyone gets tattoos a certain way. I would tattoo my neck if I could. But my profession would limit my opportunities, if that makes sense. Right. If I showed up with the big ass neck tattoo. But yesterday, we're at Disneyland. She had like it looked like chicken wire fence right here. And I didn't understand it. I was like, I felt like Googling it like, fuck, like.

What does it mean? You know how certain tattoos have certain meanings or whatever? Yeah. I was like, what the hell, Yeah, I don't understand.

speaker-0 (01:09:02.122)
He's not drunk. You realize those are small clips that are generated after the live show. So it's not taken in full context to remember that if you watch the whole thing, it would explain further. So.

speaker-2 (01:09:16.702)
And Rick and it's doing its job though. The shorts are meant to draw attention. Yeah channel for that reason

speaker-0 (01:09:26.017)
I agree with it.

speaker-1 (01:09:30.307)
Fucking big luck, Chido. Is she the throat goat?

speaker-2 (01:09:33.901)
D'oh! I-

speaker-0 (01:09:37.229)
Listen, I've said this before too. I'm at the age where I don't give a shit what people think about what I say or what I do. And I've got enough friends in my life. I don't need anymore. So I could give a shit what people think what I say. I could kill us. You know, I will defend myself on certain things. So again, I'm not saying that he's a horrible player and then we should never draft him. There's other guys that say that that have shows.

that are actually in the chat, but nobody says what they say to them that they say to me, which is funny. They're the ones that say he's not as good as everybody says, and I'm not saying that. So let's just put it in fact, okay.

speaker-2 (01:10:11.726)
Yeah

speaker-2 (01:10:21.388)
She probably from one of those Disneyland Gangs. See I told people there's Disneyland Gangs, they don't wanna believe me.

speaker-0 (01:10:28.166)
shoot. Disney then.

speaker-2 (01:10:30.414)
Yeah, coach, I was at Disneyland because according to my girl, it's not football season anymore, so we don't have to do Raiders. So she's getting the most out of it in the football season. Yeah.

speaker-1 (01:10:50.2)
What was your favorite ride Cheeto?

speaker-2 (01:10:52.844)
I brought all the Star Wars. No, I'm not gonna lie. I love radiator Springs the cars, right?

That's a California- Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, but to me it's always the Star Wars riots. It's always the Star Wars riots.

speaker-0 (01:11:03.021)
Yeah.

speaker-1 (01:11:08.75)
Okay.

speaker-2 (01:11:10.53)
Hey, that's a good point, Ja. Maybe it reminds her of a point where she got stuck. Okay. All right.

speaker-0 (01:11:16.222)
She gets stuck in chicken wire?

speaker-2 (01:11:18.126)
No! Like a point in her life. I understood what you meant.

You got stuck in chicken wire. my lord.

see that thing with team Donald Duck.

speaker-0 (01:11:36.59)
went there for the food some of videos from yesterday they were all about food

speaker-2 (01:11:39.542)
I did, you know what?

speaker-2 (01:11:44.078)
So that wasn't even my idea that was her idea the minute I told her where I was taking her She went on Instagram and looked up all the food spots. Yeah, I Was like, okay, like I never like okay. I'm outing you about the fried chicken and the dough with like, all right

speaker-0 (01:11:54.563)
YEAH!

speaker-1 (01:11:59.938)
Did you go to the secret bar that they have at Disneyland? We didn't go that far. My wife will find the bars and stuff like that.

speaker-2 (01:12:08.558)
Well, all the alcohols on California Adventure Side.

speaker-1 (01:12:12.002)
Yep.

speaker-2 (01:12:13.752)
Join in the cult.

speaker-0 (01:12:15.443)
Well, you let me know when you dip your toes in it, because then I'll join. You help people, right?

speaker-2 (01:12:18.35)
I know right? Look who's talking over here. Talk about anti-Fernando not being called out, right? You know, I think with 805, it's the way he says it. He articulates it so well. It doesn't come off as hate.

speaker-1 (01:12:37.218)
He's such a nice guy, maybe.

speaker-0 (01:12:38.584)
Donald Duck and those Disneyland gangs. What's up, show deuces? What's going on?

speaker-2 (01:12:41.276)
man.

It was funny because we saw someone because my girl thought I was just bullshitting and they had like a kind of like a biker vest, but it was all Disneyland out and I'm a seat right there. There's one of them right there. And she goes, oh, shit, I told you. I think I'm over here playing. Yeah, I saw that.

speaker-0 (01:13:06.254)
to be minimum of 19. Yeah, it's going to be. I'm willing to bet it's over 20.

speaker-2 (01:13:12.002)
think it's going to be closer to 25 by the time it's all done. Right. Mm-hmm.

speaker-0 (01:13:15.182)
That would be smart. agree. lot of money. Yeah. But he's that good though.

speaker-2 (01:13:21.248)
I wish I got a pass at Disneyland Hopper,

speaker-0 (01:13:27.5)
Costco packet.

speaker-2 (01:13:28.782)
They work at Disney and then they get me in. So I get that and the lightning pass.

speaker-1 (01:13:35.586)
Damn!

speaker-0 (01:13:37.262)
Yeah, right. Money Chuck. In all honesty. Yeah, absolutely right. There was there was a time where like cops couldn't even show their tattoos. I mean, there was a time where we still had to wear long sleeve shirts. And, you know, once you're on so long, it's like you're going to terminate me because of tattoos on my arm that I had the whole time, but now because we're wearing polos instead. Now you give me.

speaker-2 (01:13:49.228)
You trust me.

speaker-1 (01:14:06.816)
I

speaker-2 (01:14:07.262)
You grow my hair out because of my job. I was bald before I think you guys met me. I used to shave my head, but a client's mother was intimidated that I look too much like a gang member with a shaved head because of my tattoos and stuff. Yeah, me,

speaker-1 (01:14:25.806)
What? You look like a gang member?

speaker-0 (01:14:26.958)
You

speaker-2 (01:14:29.506)
Yeah, it was intimidating. Yeah. So then they asked me to grow my hair out a little. So I just let it grow out. And then whenever I go to that person's house, I would either wear a hoodie or I would wear a long sleeve shirt.

speaker-1 (01:14:41.772)
the

speaker-2 (01:15:03.788)
When I was in, you needed permission to get one.

If they saw you with one, a new one, you would get in trouble if you didn't ask permission. Yeah. I didn't get the majority of mine till after.

speaker-1 (01:15:16.874)
you see like ours were like you didn't have to ask permission in 2000. They were just like.

speaker-2 (01:15:24.174)
Alrighty, I was trying to pick up the chicken wire girl.

speaker-0 (01:15:27.512)
Definitely more bulls fan vibes doesn't roll like a silver and black fan. Why? Because I'm not on board with everybody else that wants a certain player or because I got

speaker-1 (01:15:37.036)
Makes no sense.

speaker-0 (01:15:39.245)
What does that even mean?

speaker-2 (01:15:41.934)
Yeah, why the bills?

never said anything about how great Josh Allen is or anything like that. You know what I mean? Like, yeah. But I mean, I've never seen you like talk about him in that way where you're glazing over him on the show. The way Nathan does with Dart, right? Like I've never seen you talk.

speaker-0 (01:15:50.718)
He is one hell of a quarterback.

speaker-0 (01:16:01.972)
my God. You would think anybody want to bust balls come Wednesday and bust Nate's balls about being. That's on the cinema because he watched him at USC, so I got it.

speaker-2 (01:16:08.247)
Yeah

speaker-2 (01:16:13.527)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

speaker-0 (01:16:16.005)
Bell's Famine.

speaker-2 (01:16:18.27)
god, Chris is so right. He said 805 is a nice guy, a teddy bear until he gets sh-

speaker-0 (01:16:25.678)
Thank you.

speaker-2 (01:16:29.26)
speaker-1 (01:16:29.998)
Is he one those guys that like gets a little tipsy tries to fight everyone?

speaker-2 (01:16:34.144)
No, he doesn't have to fight everyone, but he his patience for tolerating stupidity is a lot less when he's more like most people, right? I mean, we could tolerate a lot of shit, but if your tipsy, you're drinking your tolerance, patients gets a little thinner.

speaker-0 (01:16:49.064)
sober all the time and I still can't stand people so

speaker-2 (01:16:51.63)
You're just a grumpy old man, just want us to get off your lawn.

speaker-0 (01:16:55.864)
Good luck.

speaker-1 (01:16:58.702)
Two.

speaker-0 (01:17:01.772)
Well, you never saw the you never saw the show about a year ago in 805 when we resigned Adam Butler.

speaker-1 (01:17:10.734)
I did it man, did that.

speaker-0 (01:17:13.102)
Oh my God, Comedy gold. He came in with a bottle and hand and a glass and he was just like,

speaker-1 (01:17:21.55)
I'm gonna need a direct leak so I can rewatch that episode.

speaker-2 (01:17:28.354)
Yeah, it was on this page a year ago during a during free agency. OK, we signed Adam Butler, man. Jesus Christ. Mm hmm. Yeah.

speaker-0 (01:17:39.214)
Don't ever take me to Disneyland. I'll be out of your sight in seconds to go to get food nachos and churros and then to pay like a fucking Beetlejuice.

speaker-2 (01:17:48.043)
Bro that fucking garlic cheese pretzel was fucking amazing

speaker-0 (01:17:53.742)
What's up AR?

speaker-2 (01:17:55.426)
What up man, what's going up gang? How you doing? How you doing?

speaker-2 (01:18:02.098)
Mm-mm-mm.

speaker-0 (01:18:06.722)
Yeah, right. I guess so. God forbid I have an opinion on something. Sure. I'll just sit here and I'll do like James used to do for the rest of show after he'd go on his tirade and just stare at the screen. Here we go.

speaker-2 (01:18:18.382)
I thought you said you were going to clip your toe.

speaker-2 (01:18:25.806)
That was cool. I remember how I'm mad at Jif guy.

speaker-0 (01:18:28.416)
He's like...

speaker-2 (01:18:31.758)
You were like a dad in that moment, bro.

speaker-1 (01:18:34.818)
Are you serious?

speaker-0 (01:18:37.388)
I mean, common courtesy etiquette, it's like, I'm surprised he didn't put his foot up on the table and start doing it. mean, he's doing it off camera and you can just hear the click click and then all of he's in front of the camera doing it. It's like, dude, are you seriously cutting your nails right now? He's like, yeah, why get the fuck out of here, Come on.

speaker-1 (01:18:41.664)
EY!

speaker-2 (01:18:47.214)
That's funny.

speaker-2 (01:19:00.398)
It's because you live in Maine, so it's closer.

You don't

speaker-1 (01:19:06.872)
He doesn't freaking Providence. They are like, they and Providence are pretty far away from each other.

speaker-2 (01:19:09.518)
RYLAN

speaker-0 (01:19:13.967)
I'm like two hours away from me. Yeah

speaker-2 (01:19:17.928)
my God, I did not wear a Mendoza jersey, but I had on my Super Bowl hat that AR gifted to me for winning his trivia game. But I put on magnetic Mickey ears. You guys know how many times I got stopped and asked where I got my fucking hat at. Like, bro, where did you buy that Disney Raider hat, bro? Where did you buy that Disney Raider hat? I'm going to just go start selling those next time, I'm just going to make some raider hats and add the ears and be like,

speaker-0 (01:19:42.552)
i'm a sh-

speaker-2 (01:19:49.294)
Yeah, there were so many dudes that were like hey, bro. Would you get that? I like this magnetic ears, right? Just put them on like that was all I did

speaker-1 (01:19:58.946)
Give away your secrets bro. Why are you giving away your secrets there, Chino?

speaker-2 (01:20:03.17)
Yeah

speaker-0 (01:20:04.066)
Did you see do you see Sacton Mike's comment? I don't know if I want to put it up, but it was pretty funny.

speaker-2 (01:20:09.71)
Let me get to it, where is it? is it? Yes. Find the prison on Black Hole Chapter. He is. The New England one. Yeah. Hey, Lucky, welcome, brother. Welcome, welcome. What's going on? Sup, sup, sup.

speaker-0 (01:20:11.502)
You

speaker-0 (01:20:19.192)
Thanks Mike.

My guy.

speaker-2 (01:20:35.694)
parent?

speaker-0 (01:20:38.55)
I'll check your resume then.

speaker-2 (01:20:40.558)
God, see?

speaker-0 (01:20:43.534)
Why not? Betty, call in Saturday night and you can tell it over the phone. Show Saturday night. You can come on and talk. I'll even bring you on goddamn screen. I don't give a shit.

speaker-2 (01:20:56.908)
Jeff says no manscaping in lives.

speaker-0 (01:21:03.896)
Yeah.

speaker-2 (01:21:06.412)
Look at Big Luck.

speaker-1 (01:21:15.406)
Wow, bro

speaker-2 (01:21:18.446)
It has big luck called the end to your show on Friday or Saturday.

speaker-0 (01:21:22.254)
no.

speaker-2 (01:21:23.627)
No?

speaker-0 (01:21:25.774)
Jeff told me it be just something, a noun or something. Someone who would sell trucks on the radio.

speaker-2 (01:21:33.528)
Yeah, I saw that. Hey, thanks, Chris. Appreciate it, Big Dark. I think I'm going to make a couple more. I only bring them out every now and then, all the time.

speaker-1 (01:21:37.646)
huh.

speaker-2 (01:21:46.626)
Do I tell you are any business man? Although I couldn't like my my girl was getting a little annoying people get asking me about my hat. Because it was supposed to be a non Raider day.

speaker-1 (01:21:59.222)
And it became a Raider Day because of your hair.

speaker-2 (01:22:01.218)
A little bit, a little bit, a little bit.

speaker-0 (01:22:03.31)
Are you sure we're on the same team? Because you just questioned my, my radarism and think that I'm a Bills fan. So apparently we're not on the same team by your.

speaker-2 (01:22:11.764)
Just how do you guys say that over on your coast? Bustin' balls.

speaker-0 (01:22:15.426)
Yeah, busting my balls. Don't disrespect sack town. can disrespect me all you want. Don't disrespect that now. Sorry.

speaker-0 (01:22:29.17)
Yeah, the Army Airborne Ranger and fucking in the hundred and first, we ain't no fucking dummy.

speaker-2 (01:22:43.79)
gonna get jumped by Disney characters for hustling on their chair man that's funny that's funny bro

speaker-0 (01:22:49.902)
speaker-0 (01:22:58.402)
Yeah, hour and a half. Leo, how long did you have tonight?

speaker-2 (01:23:01.802)
Bro, whatever. It's not because I'm stoned, Arnie. I'm just tired. I'm still tired from yesterday.

speaker-1 (01:23:07.872)
He's Cheeto land yet out.

speaker-2 (01:23:09.888)
I am, bro, I am.

speaker-1 (01:23:11.576)
No, it's crazy to think right like the day after is when you're more tired than the day that you go through it.

speaker-2 (01:23:17.23)
And that's only because I'm 48 gonna be 49. That's why.

speaker-1 (01:23:20.694)
Bro, don't be giving out those young digits right there. I'd be like...

speaker-2 (01:23:26.062)
Yeah

speaker-0 (01:23:27.17)
the

speaker-2 (01:23:30.702)
That's why I said Paul.

speaker-2 (01:23:36.408)
the

speaker-1 (01:23:37.514)
Japan

speaker-2 (01:23:44.898)
Lord. Actually, Jeff, Jeff made a video about this, Arnie. For the GM, what would your first roster? It was what is what Jeff said, what his first 10 minutes would be in the NFL draft. You should go check it out. It's on his YouTube channel.

speaker-1 (01:24:01.088)
His first 10 minutes in the NFL Draft?

speaker-2 (01:24:03.65)
Yes, what do you

speaker-0 (01:24:04.238)
It's 30 seconds long.

speaker-2 (01:24:06.444)
Like 30 seconds, but yeah. huh. Yeah.

speaker-1 (01:24:10.558)
man, is it gonna be a controversial?

speaker-0 (01:24:13.282)
See Arnie, I think it was your question the other night actually. It was your question from Saturday night. Yeah. Because you asked Jason and I what we would do with the first 10 minutes if we were the GM.

speaker-1 (01:24:28.482)
speaker-2 (01:24:29.566)
Exactly. Me too. That's why I wanted Jeff to say it. Whenever I hear busting balls, I think of Billy Bats from Goodfellas. Jeff has the accent to say it.

speaker-0 (01:24:40.29)
Yeah

speaker-2 (01:24:42.892)
No way.

Lord

speaker-0 (01:24:50.894)
I would that's one thing I said I would never do is get a tattoo on my neck. No, and it's not the pain thing. It's like I just I just I don't know. Sometimes it just doesn't look right on certain people and I just. know, at least if I need to cover it up, it's on my arms. You know what I mean? don't have one. I mean, I'm thinking about getting my hands done. Be honest with you. So.

speaker-2 (01:24:55.415)
No?

speaker-0 (01:25:18.924)
I a little more weight. want to get something on my chest for sure. But I got to get my grandkids done. haven't had, I haven't had theirs done yet.

speaker-2 (01:25:27.864)
Your grandkids?

speaker-2 (01:25:34.847)
will

speaker-2 (01:25:39.193)
that's right. He was born last year. I remember that. Yeah.

speaker-0 (01:25:43.116)
Is now we have we've got four birthdays in May now we've got my grandson is. 17th of May my daughter is the 18th and then don and I are both on the 20th.

speaker-2 (01:25:53.442)
Yeah. And just y'all know, last year in May, that was Jeff before he wore a hat.

speaker-1 (01:25:59.65)
Wow

speaker-2 (01:26:01.23)
He just got the hat that he's wearing not so long ago. Yeah, he used to always just wear this beanie all the time

speaker-0 (01:26:07.854)
Yeah, I got this in Philly at Mitchell and Ness.

speaker-2 (01:26:12.398)
All right, well, question for you, Will, what would you do in the first 10 minutes if you were hired as GM?

speaker-1 (01:26:21.496)
Fuck, bro. In the first 10 minutes? First price to shit myself because I got hired as a fucking.

speaker-2 (01:26:24.366)
First 10 minutes.

speaker-2 (01:26:28.782)
the

speaker-1 (01:26:36.012)
right. Honestly, man, I mean, like a like you're addressing all the situations that you're that we talk about, right? You're looking into a scene of the 10 minutes.

speaker-2 (01:26:46.35)
Bro, you only got 10 minutes. What are you gonna do?

speaker-1 (01:26:49.442)
Bro, I'm calling to see if the Mac situation is for real. If this is a...

speaker-0 (01:26:55.342)
Why are you calling this if the max thing is real?

speaker-1 (01:26:58.518)
Well, I'll be like, I'm trying to get information. I'm trying to find out like the information is this situation a real thing?

speaker-2 (01:27:04.878)
If it is, you're trading back.

speaker-0 (01:27:06.552)
the latest.

speaker-1 (01:27:08.302)
If it is, if it is, if Max is asking for a trade, then I'm...

speaker-2 (01:27:13.667)
you're gonna ask Max

speaker-1 (01:27:16.122)
I'm trying to figure out yeah whoever it is whatever the situation is I'm going straight to the freaking horse's mouth I'm going to Max Crowley and I'm going to hey Max do want to be here?

speaker-2 (01:27:28.014)
It's funny the way how it's two people were both greater fans But you two are completely different than your thought to Jeff. I don't know Jeff You tell me if I'm wrong, but my assumption I get from you don't give a fuck if he wants to be traded or not. It's not up to him. He was he wanted to ask Max if it's true and If it is then he would go accordingly and if it's not then yeah, see Jeff would have been like I'm gonna flex that up to you

speaker-0 (01:27:41.579)
Will's first theme

speaker-1 (01:27:53.422)
I get what you're saying.

speaker-0 (01:27:55.41)
I'm about that player in that moment. I'm thinking about what's better for the team and not for nothing. What's better for my job? I want to keep my job. And if it means making the team better for the future, because again, I honestly don't believe Max is part of the future plans of this team.

speaker-2 (01:28:11.34)
That would be you as a GM not believing that.

speaker-0 (01:28:13.738)
Exactly. And I don't, that's my opinion on this. He's not the future of this organization going forward. I'm sorry. There's going to be a new face coming in. That's going to be the future of this team. It's going to be an offensive faced team going forward after this year. It's plain and simple.

speaker-1 (01:28:32.494)
And I get what you're saying Jeff. I'm like for me, like I said, I would ask because I'm like. For me, I think. If he's not saying it, if he says he wants to stay with the program and he's in, then hey, I'm still going to listen. I mean, like it's still my job to listen. If somebody calls me and says, bro, I got three number one picks for Max Crosby, I still have to listen. I'll be like, you know, obviously I'm going to make the best move for the team, but if I go and I say hey man.

Really the value in those guys that they're trying to trade me for. He wants to stay here. I don't think that valuable is equitable.

speaker-2 (01:29:10.338)
Who are you telling that to? You're the GM. You're making-

speaker-1 (01:29:12.338)
Well, that's what I'm saying. That to me factors all in. That's why I'm like, hey, I'm gonna see if he doesn't want to be here and they're only giving me a one and a two, but I think he's worth two number ones, I might trade them for a one and a two.

speaker-2 (01:29:26.19)
I'm like, I'm like in GF GM Jeff better. He seems more aggressive. You seem very passive to me as a GM.

speaker-1 (01:29:33.934)
It's good.

Hey, Chido, how do you play it? How do you do it? Your first 10 minutes is GM of the Raiders. What do you...

speaker-2 (01:29:40.152)
HUH?

speaker-2 (01:29:45.39)
ain't even fucking with the maxing my first 10 minutes, is this- I'm looking into how many of these motherfuckers want Mendoza and what are they gonna give me for Mendoza?

speaker-1 (01:29:48.146)
So what are you doing?

speaker-1 (01:29:54.424)
So you're calling other teams to trade back.

speaker-2 (01:29:57.1)
Well, obviously he's got rid down somewhere who's called. So I look like, OK, these team calls. The part is, I'm going to look where they are in the draft because I'm not trading him to like a team that's picking basically in the second round, right? A bottom fucking first round pick. All right. Yeah. So I'm trying to see what it is, where it's at. But yeah, I'm listening to it. Right. I might catch a few notes. so and so called about Max. Detroit doesn't pick that high. What else are they offering? You know.

speaker-1 (01:30:01.55)
HA! You gots it, don't you?

speaker-2 (01:30:25.582)
Let Detroit let Detroit send a receiver and two picks like maybe I'll do it that way. All right, maybe maybe but yeah My first thing would be to honestly listen to those trades and signed Eric heart. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding

speaker-0 (01:30:41.326)
You just got fired. What if season even starts? You're outta here.

speaker-2 (01:30:43.438)
You

It's cuz I listen to his stupid show all the time and it makes me like like him again as a person not a player but as a person

speaker-0 (01:30:55.042)
No, well, if you haven't seen it, what I basically said is if it's if I'm my first 10 minutes of, you know, at drag because it was actually worded at the draft, like what would I do with that time as we're waiting to make the pick as the GM? I'm holding I'm holding that card in my hand until the last possible second. I have to hand it over to somebody because if I've already got Mendoza's name written on that pick, I'm holding it tight to the chest until I have to absolutely last second hand it over.

because I'm waiting. I'm not going to run to the podium with the Mendoza. No, I'm going to take the full time allotted for my pick and I'm going to give time for these other teams at the last moment. They may call and offer us something that's so good that you can't pass it up because if you pass it up and it gets put out there that this is what they were offered and they turned it down, that could make a break the career of a GM too. Because if you get handed the golden ticket as the number one pick.

And you have this plethora of offers that will just help better your team going forward instead of picking one guy when you can walk off with three, four additional guys between this year's draft and next year's what you're going to get in return for it. How can you say no to that? Seriously, how can you say no to that? When you know this team has so many holes and you're not going to be able to fill them all in free agency on the draft. It's just not going to happen.

speaker-2 (01:32:22.882)
GFAM, GFAM are.

speaker-0 (01:32:23.982)
that's what I would have just told that auditory last second

speaker-2 (01:32:27.8)
GFam already firing us for even thinking about trading away Mendoza.

speaker-0 (01:32:33.556)
the

speaker-2 (01:32:41.368)
Obviously, GFam, I wouldn't trade them for nothing, bro. It would have to be a haul, in my opinion. on the limited Dunkin' Donuts

speaker-1 (01:32:53.378)
Bro, people think that you're just going to trade out of that pick for one pick or for. I'd be like the value has to be equitable.

speaker-2 (01:32:58.158)
I

speaker-2 (01:33:02.558)
Mm-hmm. and it goes back to you think about what they did with Khalil Mac, right? Yes. That was a great trade. Yes. It was that but It also hangs on what happens with those picks you make Right if you think about what's his name? You imagine if Mayok right and grew it into whatever the fuck if the picks they got for Khalil if they would have hit What a difference that would have made

speaker-0 (01:33:18.542)
gonna put the glasses on.

speaker-2 (01:33:30.464)
As opposed to us always remembering right now having peace DSD when it comes to pigs. Yeah Yeah

speaker-0 (01:33:39.064)
Since I've been wearing the glasses, the beanie doesn't look as good with the... How silly it looks.

speaker-2 (01:33:44.792)
That's because you ran all the way down to the glasses.

speaker-0 (01:33:47.564)
Yeah, I like being in front of my eyes. That's the thing. So like when I wasn't wearing glasses, I liked it down low like this.

speaker-1 (01:33:54.954)
It's the B-

speaker-2 (01:33:57.856)
Hey, shout out to AR and I totally get and understand where you're coming from. It's because I'm not waiting any longer. Mendoza is a leader and a winner. So fuck the pigs. Right. The big picture is we need to try for you, QB. And if there was one worthy take them. I'm not waiting. And that's cool. I totally get that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I totally get. I will say, Matt, fucking when we were I wanted to get a Jaden or Caleb that year when I said, fuck those pigs.

speaker-1 (01:34:14.85)
I'm with you.

speaker-2 (01:34:27.523)
Yeah, I like fuck those vicks. Give me one of those motherfuckers.

speaker-1 (01:34:32.822)
You know, one thing that's by tech did come out and say, said, Hey man, it's all about drafting the right guy. That's player available at that moment. He said, it's not, you know, he says that there's a lot of positions of need and it doesn't mean that you have to make a guy fit that.

speaker-2 (01:34:49.666)
Yeah, he said that's when teams reach when they draft for need as opposed to best players.

speaker-1 (01:34:56.76)
they're available. I mean, like in that right there, I'll be like shows me like.

speaker-2 (01:35:01.646)
I mean, prime example was what's his name did with the Bowers pick. Right. Bowers, the position for whatever you want to say, it wasn't a position of need to tie in, especially in the first round. But look at that was the best player available when it fucking was. Right. So you had to take them at that point and look at where it's them. A great fucking tie down so far.

speaker-2 (01:35:26.604)
That he should. Yeah.

speaker-0 (01:35:28.046)
This is exactly what here is it.

speaker-2 (01:35:31.477)
Justin says that all the time,

speaker-0 (01:35:33.485)
Yeah.

Where is it? Here it is. John spy tech was asked by CBS Sports Media. If a team calls, calls you wants to offer a package for you to move down. Are you answering the phone spy? Text says, always answer the phone. Yes. Those are my guys. So, you have to listen. If you're not, if you're not listening to offers, you're not doing your job as the G

speaker-2 (01:35:50.85)
You always have.

speaker-0 (01:36:01.678)
because you're just pigeonholing yourself to just make that decision and that decision only but real quick getting back to the max thing Leo I put this because I think you would appreciate it

speaker-2 (01:36:14.254)
But I bet let me see if I appreciate it.

speaker-0 (01:36:16.93)
Hang on, get rid of this comment for us so the banner shows up. So this would be in my best Ted DiBiase voice. Everybody's got a price for greatest debt max. So just like the million dollar man used to say, everybody's got a price for the million dollar man.

speaker-2 (01:36:36.842)
Not everybody did. Hulkamania did not have a price and he never sold out to the million dollar man. And Mad Max is Hulkamania, god damn it.

speaker-0 (01:36:47.554)
I'm sitting here today looking at, know, typing up the banners and I'm like, and then I forget who I was listening to. And somebody said, yeah, you know, if the price is right and then I hit, then it just hit me. I'm like million dollar man always something like this, always a price. I typed it in.

speaker-2 (01:37:05.545)
everybody has a price

speaker-0 (01:37:07.5)
Yep, I went and I looked up million dollar man's quotes and that was one of the first ones that came up. I'm like, yeah, that's that's exactly what I was thinking. So I'm like, yep, putting that.

speaker-2 (01:37:16.238)
He used to have people do embarrassing ass shit for $100. Yeah Hey back then back then a hundred bucks was what a lot further, bro

speaker-0 (01:37:19.672)
Yeah.

speaker-0 (01:37:27.854)
I'm the best. It's like a thousand dollars now. Yeah.

speaker-2 (01:37:33.858)
Mm-hmm.

speaker-0 (01:37:37.859)
Yeah. Good. Yeah. I mean, we can train them, but what are we going to get in return?

speaker-2 (01:37:42.274)
That would be the best fucking scenario. Remember how you were talking about how Jimmy and that Herschel Walker trade got a bunch of players that were going to cut anyway? Like even if we were to get some bum ass players, right? But just the fact that you traded Gino and not have to take that cap hit. Yeah.

speaker-0 (01:37:44.662)
Even if, even if you

speaker-0 (01:38:04.62)
Yeah, but then the players that you get, even if you don't want them, you cut them. And you get compensatory picks for them. Yeah. It's like that was the years ago. See, that's a smart GM right there. That's what that.

speaker-2 (01:38:08.908)
Yes, I'm saying you can cut them.

speaker-2 (01:38:16.334)
That was Jimmy Johnson not Jerry Jones

speaker-0 (01:38:19.886)
the

speaker-2 (01:38:26.83)
not if you're a cherry

speaker-1 (01:38:32.462)
130 million because I mean like this number keeps getting bigger every

speaker-0 (01:38:36.82)
No, that's what we would have. Because we got about a hundred and what? hundred and one?

speaker-2 (01:38:42.936)
From like 98 to 101 and then the cap's gonna go up when the new season starts, right? Yeah.

speaker-0 (01:38:49.646)
that

speaker-2 (01:38:58.418)
For a quarterback right cuz who's the one that has like a 70 Lamar right Lamar have like a 73 million dollar hit on the cap

speaker-0 (01:39:06.048)
It's all that.

speaker-2 (01:39:10.776)
But mean, they have they have nerds, fancy account guys. know how to work the numbers, do all that shit for them. Yeah. Mm

speaker-0 (01:39:18.378)
I can eight five because Rick says spy tech is Mendoza's realtor. Then he goes, Rick is spy tech looking for a house in their MetLife stadium.

speaker-2 (01:39:31.454)
the Jets. I know I already saw those rumors about Mendoza looking at houses in Las Vegas.

speaker-0 (01:39:42.36)
But you know, the other good thing too, people really haven't hit on this too is the whole max thing. If we do trade them away, one of the huge selling points for him too is his contract. Is extremely team friendly. You're not on the hook for a shit ton of money for him.

speaker-2 (01:39:53.112)
That's friendly.

speaker-2 (01:39:59.982)
Which is why you would have to do it for more than just one first rounder.

speaker-0 (01:40:05.322)
Exactly. And it's not just like, it's going to be multiple things. It's going to be picks and possibly a player, you know, it's going to be quite a bit.

speaker-2 (01:40:15.776)
A player to be named later.

speaker-0 (01:40:17.966)
Well, that's a baseball thing.

speaker-2 (01:40:21.518)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

speaker-0 (01:40:25.954)
So Jocid,

speaker-2 (01:40:29.622)
Hey, Drew Aller is gonna throw in the combine,

He recovered from season ending ankle surgery and he will throw this week at the combine.

speaker-1 (01:40:41.432)
to the droop.

speaker-0 (01:40:42.03)
So Josh, the kind of trade Spitek will take with no questions. Jets number two, 16, 33 and 44 in the next year's first round pick. Yeah.

speaker-2 (01:40:51.566)
That's five. Yeah, that's. And if they were to do that, if you want Fernando Mendoza, all of you that want Mendoza, if we were to get that to 16, 33, 44 and next year's first, are you still saying no?

speaker-1 (01:40:53.408)
Yes.

speaker-1 (01:41:08.558)
It's hard to turn down.

speaker-2 (01:41:10.19)
That What do you mean hard? That's- That ain't hard, that's easy, yes!

speaker-1 (01:41:13.922)
Center away! That's what I'm saying, it's hard to turn down.

speaker-0 (01:41:17.998)
the

speaker-2 (01:41:22.647)
next year.

speaker-2 (01:41:29.93)
Yeah

speaker-1 (01:41:33.166)
That's five possible starters.

speaker-2 (01:41:35.8)
Yeah

speaker-0 (01:41:37.194)
And think about, on top of that, that's one, two, that's two in the first round this year, two in the first round next year. So that's going to be four rookie contracts. One in the first, you know what I mean? First round picks with the.

speaker-2 (01:41:53.902)
Because the ones with the first rounders, get the fifth year option.

speaker-0 (01:41:57.74)
You would have four of those guys.

speaker-2 (01:42:04.482)
I wanna meet- J- J- Uso got added to this. shit.

speaker-0 (01:42:09.688)
See, GFam says not only no, but hell no.

speaker-2 (01:42:13.805)
Yeah, I see.

speaker-1 (01:42:14.798)
Wow, okay.

speaker-2 (01:42:25.122)
you

speaker-2 (01:42:35.008)
The people who drafted those guys aren't here anymore

speaker-1 (01:42:37.89)
Yeah.

speaker-0 (01:42:40.78)
And the Jets will be asked next year, so you know you're going to have another early round pick with them too.

speaker-2 (01:42:45.422)
But will they if they get Mendoza? Because he's supposed to be the truth.

speaker-0 (01:42:48.654)
Yeah, but they still got they got no defense and if they don't be saying ball, they're have no running game.

speaker-2 (01:42:54.606)
Drew Aller is so interesting to me, because he needed more work like another year in college and he didn't get it. But man, that kid had some special shit to him, man. He had the dog in him. Drew Aller? Yeah.

speaker-1 (01:43:10.734)
I just thought that was like highly ranked from last year from Penn State, right?

speaker-2 (01:43:11.084)
I wonder

speaker-2 (01:43:14.83)
You didn't see him play last year?

speaker-1 (01:43:16.622)
I saw him play a roster. Yeah, I didn't see him this year. I'm like, I again, I'm like, as bright as he got injured, but I'm like.

speaker-2 (01:43:18.84)
Yeah?

speaker-0 (01:43:25.39)
So let me ask, I want to ask this, this is I have a thought. I'm curious to see what everybody's mindset is with all this with Mendoza. So let's say he doesn't win the national championship, doesn't even play in the championship and does not win the Heisman Trophy. goes to love. Will take Mendoza number one overall?

speaker-1 (01:43:28.568)
Is

speaker-1 (01:43:41.336)
We're not talking about-

speaker-2 (01:43:44.82)
think the hype train wouldn't be as fully loaded, but when you think about the quarterbacks that are coming out this year, unless it was Simpson that won the national title with Alabama, then he still would be the top rated quarterback coming out this year.

speaker-0 (01:43:59.534)
But would still take him number one pick overall. No Heisman, no national. Gets eliminated a big.

speaker-2 (01:44:05.304)
your only reason for taking him is because he won the heisman or because he won the natty? it's ridiculous

speaker-2 (01:44:24.28)
William McCarthy won the national championship undefeated. Right. The Michigan going defeated. Right. I think or did they lose one? I can't remember. Anyway, I think they lost once. Chris is here. I think they lost once to Ohio State. I can't remember anyway. But he won the national championship. Yeah, no, no. I still think he would be the top rated quarterback, though.

speaker-0 (01:44:46.594)
would be the top right quarterback would you still take him at number one or would you take a defensive one of these guys who who

speaker-2 (01:44:52.814)
Who else would you put? So at that point, if you're saying that, then he's not the best available player. So then who is?

speaker-0 (01:45:01.676)
He's still not the best available player right now. Wrong person.

speaker-2 (01:45:03.854)
I'm asking the chat who would be the best available player then.

speaker-0 (01:45:08.322)
They're all going to say Mendoza, you know?

speaker-1 (01:45:10.506)
If he...

speaker-2 (01:45:14.868)
Even Bain's not highly rated defensive. There's people that are rated above him.

speaker-0 (01:45:18.811)
What's up, BH Sniffer? As a Charger fan, I'm not sold on Mendoza and would love Mendoza to suit up for the Raiders.

speaker-2 (01:45:25.614)
Diego Pavia

speaker-0 (01:45:31.896)
So this still saying number one pick cool cap says Bane.

speaker-2 (01:45:35.366)
And it makes sense because it's the quarterback there's so much emphasis on this being me yeah and I'm with Mike I think a defensive player would be fucking amazing

speaker-1 (01:45:42.007)
Mike says

speaker-0 (01:45:49.486)
How am I being retarded? It's a thing that could have happened. He could not have won the Heisman Trophy. He could not have won the national championship. Those are two things that could not have happened. I'm just saying you take those two things out of the equation. Is he still the number one overall?

speaker-2 (01:46:04.148)
Yeah, but I think at that point you're just playing the what-if game.

speaker-0 (01:46:08.322)
People play the what-if game all the time with us. Are you shitting me?

speaker-2 (01:46:16.034)
But they don't argue the what ifs about Mendoza. They just point out to you what he's done.

speaker-0 (01:46:20.095)
the ball every snap.

speaker-1 (01:46:22.526)
Okay, yeah. Who's the center?

speaker-0 (01:46:23.426)
Yeah.

speaker-2 (01:46:25.495)
in the next video.

speaker-0 (01:46:26.682)
It's true.

speaker-2 (01:46:28.632)
Really? Who has more of an impact? Really?

speaker-0 (01:46:30.858)
haha

speaker-1 (01:46:31.308)
Hey, hey, I'm just calling it a fact. said the ball, QB touches the ball every play, so does the center.

speaker-2 (01:46:39.214)
So dumb.

speaker-0 (01:46:41.518)
The QB touches the ball every snap. Yeah, and he touches the center's ball.

speaker-2 (01:46:45.852)
So does the kicker when he kicks off, right?

speaker-1 (01:46:47.988)
No, no, he doesn't touch the ball every play.

speaker-0 (01:46:55.096)
Yeah

speaker-1 (01:46:55.426)
He does bro. I'll be like, if you think about it, Senna is an important position.

speaker-2 (01:46:59.118)
Yes, yes, I know. But no one's taking a center at number one, are they?

speaker-1 (01:47:06.786)
I'm not saying my- No!

speaker-2 (01:47:08.11)
Have they ever? Well, then don't compare the two with the same doubt. They are. Has anyone ever taken a center at number one? Why?

speaker-1 (01:47:12.642)
Minor variant of...

speaker-1 (01:47:18.316)
No. Because they're undervalued. We just said people think about offensive lineman as dime a dozen.

speaker-2 (01:47:25.752)
So then don't compare the two positions like they have the same value.

speaker-2 (01:47:32.93)
Soon!

speaker-2 (01:47:36.436)
Whatever. The same shit you do the same shit the other part is doing. It's a fact. Yeah. You know, as such as the ball time the ref so to see so does the umpire. Jesus Christ. That's what I'm saying. Like really, really well like really, that's your argument. So does the center. Really?

speaker-0 (01:47:36.974)
You do

speaker-1 (01:47:43.47)
It's a f-

speaker-1 (01:47:56.63)
Hey, centers do go round one. Yes, they do.

speaker-0 (01:47:59.79)
I'll give you, I just looked it up. Okay. So no, Ascenta has never been selected first overall in the NFL draft. The highest pick, no center has been selected in the top 10 in recent history. They are rarely chosen in the first round at all. Recent example in 2000, only a handful of centers have been since 2000 have been selected in the first round, including Travis Frederick, 31st overall in 2013, Mike Pouncy at number 15 in 2011.

And Marquis Pouncy, number eight, 2010 back to back years. Those two guys.

speaker-2 (01:48:32.054)
We're dirty bro

And they were what, Pick?

speaker-0 (01:48:39.007)
15th and the 18th pick

speaker-2 (01:48:41.677)
Yeah, see?

speaker-0 (01:48:43.67)
The highest ever was Mike Pouncey at number 15.

Teams often wait to draft centers because quality interior offensive linemen are frequently found later in rounds and the position is not considered a premium spot that justifies the number one pick.

speaker-2 (01:49:00.056)
But hey, they touch the ball, so you better value them.

speaker-0 (01:49:02.764)
Hey!

speaker-1 (01:49:05.07)
You don't win games without offensive linemen.

speaker-2 (01:49:08.302)
I'd say that something about what you said about the center like really the same thing.

speaker-1 (01:49:13.006)
He just touches the ball every play. It's bad!

speaker-2 (01:49:16.258)
Right.

speaker-0 (01:49:18.978)
So CC and so look right here, Caleb Downs is the best player by a ass here over. So again, so you agree with me. Mendoza is not the number one overall consensus best player available in this draft.

speaker-2 (01:49:30.456)
But why won't nobody, why is nobody talking about taking Caleb Downs number one?

speaker-0 (01:49:35.516)
Taking a safety in the mall. I

speaker-1 (01:49:36.654)
position of impact because you said at Cheeto it's position of impact

speaker-0 (01:49:40.303)
Get rekt

speaker-2 (01:49:41.102)
Hey.

speaker-1 (01:49:42.542)
100%.

speaker-0 (01:49:49.175)
I was in the draft.

speaker-1 (01:49:50.05)
Yes they do Bueno. They do go round one.

speaker-2 (01:49:53.07)
Yeah, but it's rare. Look up the last one he told us about was Pouncy. Yeah. He doesn't make it like a thing all the time, bro.

speaker-0 (01:49:56.086)
and

Hey

speaker-1 (01:50:02.552)
Hey, hey, three is more than zero.

speaker-2 (01:50:04.686)
You like that guy one time? Talk about little giants now one time one time

speaker-1 (01:50:07.128)
That says it don't.

speaker-1 (01:50:11.912)
Three times, motherfucker, three times.

speaker-0 (01:50:14.126)
you

speaker-1 (01:50:17.378)
The hype started with this play from Big Ten.

speaker-1 (01:50:24.938)
damn. That's some old school right there.

speaker-2 (01:50:29.198)
19. Well, yeah, I be. Gould it. Nineteen forty nine. Yeah, was he drafted as a linebacker? Was he drafted as the center? Was he drafted as a two way player?

speaker-0 (01:50:32.046)
was he drafted as?

speaker-2 (01:50:47.446)
Yeah, we took a kicker. Number one. Exactly. That was not the brightest thing either.

speaker-0 (01:50:51.342)
Number 17

speaker-2 (01:50:55.192)
Yeah.

speaker-0 (01:51:07.8)
was he drafted as?

speaker-2 (01:51:10.583)
He played both ways.

speaker-1 (01:51:13.652)
That's back in the day, yeah.

speaker-0 (01:51:15.234)
He was one of the league's last two-way players too in 1941.

speaker-0 (01:51:27.63)
I'm just looking through this. I'm going to see what he was. So he was drafted.

speaker-0 (01:51:38.136)
Looks like he was drafted as a linebacker.

speaker-0 (01:51:45.292)
He did play center too, yes, but he was drafted as a linebacker. looks like it's saying.

speaker-0 (01:51:58.254)
Yeah.

speaker-2 (01:51:58.862)
You

speaker-2 (01:52:09.016)
Who is this one?

speaker-0 (01:52:16.226)
Right, Mike, can't we? We're all on the same team.

speaker-2 (01:52:20.75)
Even though Jeff starts it most of the time

speaker-0 (01:52:22.84)
supposedly

speaker-0 (01:52:29.112)
with his

speaker-2 (01:52:31.234)
with his Max Crosby hate.

speaker-0 (01:52:33.814)
Mandola is Mendoza. Ellie Ellie is ball placement accuracy football IQ and clutch playing is very Ellie He's writ the pick in first and second best play

speaker-1 (01:52:45.166)
does Ellie mean?

speaker-2 (01:52:46.574)
It means a re-

speaker-0 (01:52:50.446)
I'm just reading it that way, but he means-

speaker-2 (01:52:52.386)
Robert Carradine died? The guy from Revenge of the Birds? No way!

RIP to Lewis.

Damn, that's one of my favorite movies, bro. Revenge of the Nerds?

speaker-0 (01:53:07.884)
Wait, wait, did somebody die?

speaker-1 (01:53:09.502)
Are we really putting Kappa at center?

speaker-2 (01:53:10.552)
time.

speaker-1 (01:53:16.192)
Just

speaker-0 (01:53:17.228)
What is it with the, with the carries? Cause that's...

speaker-2 (01:53:20.078)
Yeah, I know. And that's 71, bro.

speaker-0 (01:53:23.854)
Damn.

speaker-2 (01:53:25.016)
Yeah. But I guess he was struggling with bipolar.

speaker-0 (01:53:30.707)
The Cabernetians almost had the same curse as the Von Erich family.

speaker-2 (01:53:35.478)
Almost, right?

speaker-0 (01:53:37.272)
Seriously, did you watch that movie iron claw? That was

speaker-2 (01:53:39.842)
Yeah. I don't even know that he fought with, what is it called? amputated leg with a.

speaker-1 (01:53:50.762)
I didn't know that!

speaker-2 (01:53:51.97)
I know you don't have a foot in that boot, bro. That's crazy.

speaker-0 (01:53:56.238)
I watched it when it first came out and then I actually just this past week and I watched it again. I just happened to be skipping through Netflix and I saw it on there and I was like, shit, I'll watch that again.

speaker-2 (01:54:07.502)
That's crazy.

speaker-2 (01:54:12.814)
That's crazy. Josh Jacobs sold his house in the Southern Highlands.

speaker-1 (01:54:15.992)
Yep.

speaker-0 (01:54:18.702)
I knew what you meant.

speaker-2 (01:54:20.91)
They're listing it for 6 million and never living in it. You sold it for 4.7 million. Yeah.

speaker-0 (01:54:27.352)
Who's house?

speaker-2 (01:54:29.058)
Josh Jacobs.

speaker-1 (01:54:31.736)
Which house? The one where?

speaker-2 (01:54:34.862)
Las Vegas Mansion.

speaker-0 (01:54:36.846)
Did he sell it to Mendoza?

speaker-2 (01:54:38.958)
Right

That's crazy.

speaker-1 (01:54:47.071)
If Mendoza equals Peyton Manning's career. Come on man.

speaker-2 (01:55:05.41)
Downs is good, but safeties aren't.

speaker-0 (01:55:08.19)
He's super athletic, man. just did. mean, you could do so much with that kid, too.

speaker-2 (01:55:13.07)
Mm-hmm. Yeah.

speaker-1 (01:55:18.894)
What's so crazy is everybody just talks about the number one pick. Nobody's talking about our second round, our third round, anything else. I'll be like, the only thing I hear.

speaker-2 (01:55:29.406)
I'll tell you this, I'll tell you why though, it, cause you don't know what you should be really getting until your free agency's over. And spy tech said it today. said it today. Right. When they talked about, well, are you going to draft so many lineman or are going to draft this? He's like, well, let's let free agency happen. And then we will reevaluate based on who we were able to acquire.

speaker-1 (01:55:37.582)
100 %

speaker-0 (01:55:49.836)
Broke.

speaker-2 (01:55:57.184)
And if we need to, then we can address it on the draft. You don't go into the draft saying we're going to get this guy and this guy and that guy when you could have already gotten that dude in free agency.

speaker-1 (01:56:00.664)
Yep.

speaker-1 (01:56:08.462)
You know what though, I did find it interesting that he says that they do have a simulator now that is putting in so much information that even the information that they get from people doing like their journalism stuff, they input it and it gives them like a mock draft. I thought that was interesting and that they are now building like AI systems like that to anticipate things.

speaker-2 (01:56:34.67)
It makes sense, you look at what you could do with ChatGPT.

speaker-1 (01:56:37.311)
No, absolutely.

speaker-2 (01:56:39.224)
create songs.

You could have AI create a fucking complete song for you, bro. Yeah.

speaker-0 (01:56:48.13)
What's up, When we gonna get a, when we getting to be the veteran QB that will mentor Mendoza.

That's the question, for sure.

speaker-2 (01:57:03.214)
But we gotta wait till free agency starts.

speaker-0 (01:57:05.58)
Yeah, I mean.

speaker-2 (01:57:07.95)
I mean, that would be the answer,

speaker-1 (01:57:10.958)
Absolutely. You know what? And I did like what spy tech says that if you draft a young quarterback, you have to address the offensive line. You have to run the football, play good defense, take the pressure off of. That's way that you team success.

speaker-0 (01:57:27.03)
I closed my poll that I had up. So it says, what is the rumor you are most tired of coming in at number one, max wants out and we will trade 57%. Mendoza is the savior for the Raiders 18%. We always mess up with draft picks 14%.

speaker-2 (01:57:38.19)
It makes sense.

speaker-2 (01:57:47.662)
thought a rumor though.

speaker-0 (01:57:49.23)
the

speaker-2 (01:57:56.376)
can see the maxing getting in there after a while. Especially when you so much attention into it. No, that would be second. Yeah.

speaker-1 (01:58:00.801)
I'm amazed that

speaker-1 (01:58:07.318)
No, I was amazed. It was so hard that people were like most people like that. Most people are on that train that Mendoza was the was the guy that was like, ooh, going to change the franchise. All of a sudden you draft Mendoza and we're going to start winning.

speaker-0 (01:58:25.272)
You know, I saw something on Facebook today and it made me laugh. And it was in regard. Yeah, it was actually it was about the quote from spy tech saying that, know, he expects Max to be here, blah, blah, blah. And it was like he said it himself. Case closed. Don't say anything. You know, all the chat. everybody responded and saying all this. And I'm sitting there laughing. I'm like,

speaker-1 (01:58:27.862)
Yes, John. Yes.

speaker-0 (01:58:54.562)
I'm like, of course he's going to say that he's not going to sit there and say, no, we're looking to trade him. He's not going to come out and say what they want to do or what the game plan is. He has to come out and say, we're hoping he's going to be here this year and no, we don't want to.

speaker-2 (01:59:09.502)
He's expected to be here, yes.

speaker-0 (01:59:12.832)
And if you just go out there and just put it out there that, you know, we freely want to get rid of them, then guess what? You're going to get less because people know you're desperate to get rid of them.

speaker-2 (01:59:22.648)
Will you though? Because everybody knew Micah wanted out of Dallas and they got a pretty good haul from Micah.

speaker-0 (01:59:28.15)
Yeah, but Mike is a different type of beast. Like Miles Garret, you could sit there and say we're trading him and people will line up with office for that guy, for that team because he's that good. know, Max isn't the same level as like Miles Garret. They're two totally different players.

speaker-1 (01:59:44.432)
Don't you say that Jeff watch out you're gonna get killed bro.

speaker-0 (01:59:48.394)
Hi, if anybody disagrees with that, you're telling me Miles Gavrid is on the same level as Max?

speaker-2 (01:59:54.038)
Miles is above. Max himself has said it that those dudes are above him, that he wants to get to that level.

speaker-0 (01:59:56.661)
Miles is in my-

speaker-1 (02:00:03.128)
I'll tell you like this, forgot who it was. think it was on here. I think it was Nav Man or somebody was telling me that Max Crosby was the most complete, that he was a complete defensive end. That he was a pass rusher, everything like that, even though.

speaker-2 (02:00:17.886)
You're confusing it what you said you said max was not a pass rusher Right, yeah, and that he's that and that's not and he said he was

speaker-1 (02:00:23.982)
Correct.

speaker-1 (02:00:28.846)
He said that he was a pass rusher and a complete defensive end.

speaker-2 (02:00:32.886)
Now, would agree more with him being a complete defensive end than just the pass rushing specialist. So when it comes to that, I think he was right. And that was Jack who was arguing with you about that. Cause cause all you said was he's not a pass rusher. No, he's not just the pass rusher. Cause there's the ends that are just pass rushing specialists and that's all they do.

speaker-1 (02:00:54.926)
And that's what they're known elite, ass rushing specialists.

speaker-2 (02:00:59.252)
All of them somewhere complete the ends and can still be elite. It just depends on the type of player you are

speaker-1 (02:01:04.078)
I agree with you when you're talking about miles Garrett complete defensive end absolute pass rusher etc. You know, but I'm like those are foreign for you

speaker-0 (02:01:14.407)
See, I don't think Jerry was in it for trading Parsons. I really don't

speaker-2 (02:01:18.496)
It was it was dumb in the fact that Dallas needed that on his defense a player like that But it was not dumb when you think about the drama that it was creating on You know what I

speaker-1 (02:01:27.854)
100%.

speaker-0 (02:01:29.29)
the

speaker-2 (02:01:38.664)
But you still could have traded for a D-tackle instead of trading away Micah. Yeah, there were ways to address it otherwise. Yeah.

speaker-0 (02:01:48.194)
What's up, Raider Pete? Will, Money Check says since you brought it up, who do you guys like in the second round? I really not going to say anything until after we see what we pull in in free agency. I mean, we already know what we're doing with the number one pick. That's obvious.

speaker-2 (02:02:05.166)
Trading it.

speaker-0 (02:02:06.702)
Yeah. We already know what we're doing with that. We're going to take Mendoza playing it simple. I know that's going to happen. What we do in the second round, I think it really depends on what we do in free agency. Do we bring it? Why do you see? Or are we going to be looking for one in the second round if we don't? You know, even if we do bring in one, are we still going to look for one in the second round or are we going to go defense in the second round? Are we going to go offensive line in the second round if we don't get a free agent?

Da da da da

speaker-2 (02:02:38.582)
That's why I say when you do all this shit about draft, let's free agency happen for us.

speaker-0 (02:02:45.357)
Now.

So I really don't know. I don't have a name to throw out there for the second round right now. I know who we would probably like more than likely, but

speaker-2 (02:02:55.424)
like to see a DB you know I love a fucking linebacker you know a fucking monster out there I would love an elite wide receiver an actual wide receiver you know not one that we're still hoping and he was a good story so we drafted him in the second round

speaker-0 (02:02:59.566)
You like, on? I would-

speaker-0 (02:03:13.326)
think if you traded oil that no one picked, you'd have all those abilities.

speaker-2 (02:03:18.294)
You still have enough picks to be able to do that anyway. Yeah, and you still have enough free agency.

speaker-0 (02:03:27.47)
One way

speaker-1 (02:03:28.674)
But you know what?

speaker-2 (02:03:30.348)
Is it more right than the other? You still have to hit and you can still hit with the ones you have. So one way is not more right than the other. It's just a preference.

speaker-1 (02:03:40.654)
And you know what? I like what you said though, because I've seen a lot of people put out like mock drafts and it seems like we are going so offensive heavy like everybody's just trying to address everything on offense that I'm like this.

speaker-2 (02:03:53.356)
Some people that are taking everybody from Indiana.

speaker-0 (02:03:56.672)
I actually know, I like my ass.

speaker-1 (02:03:58.862)
The wide receiver from Indiana be slotted at our number two. So number two to say that we're going to take so right because of the fat or you know they're familiar with with.

speaker-0 (02:04:10.522)
I've seen, I've seen in a mock draft, I've seen Mendoza, I've seen Surat, I've seen the other wide receiver, Cooper and I've seen, cog, Cogden, Cougan, the center, four of them. It's like,

speaker-2 (02:04:24.664)
center.

speaker-2 (02:04:28.83)
their corner to their corners pretty high up there. They have ponds. Ponds is another one.

speaker-0 (02:04:31.786)
pawns, right?

speaker-1 (02:04:37.24)
But I like that you said defense, man. like, I think that's something that people are forgetting.

speaker-2 (02:04:42.35)
You need a fight?

speaker-2 (02:04:46.638)
I didn't read it. What did he say?

speaker-0 (02:04:48.664)
This is GM's got to keep other GM's guessing during and after. I was just bringing that one up. As I've said this a lot, most of the analysts rely on simulator. Yeah. evaluations. No wonder why they're more wrong than right when it comes to projections.

speaker-2 (02:04:51.726)
No, 805.

speaker-2 (02:04:58.712)
Yes!

speaker-2 (02:05:05.324)
Because they're projecting right now before teams even add players to their current roster. And that's the simulators and the simulators basing it off of that. You know what I mean? Yeah.

speaker-0 (02:05:17.846)
I don't want to trade everybody, you know that. We should have done Max last year, but I'm actually, I've already said this. I'm glad we didn't because I think with Pete involved with those draft picks, that would have been fucked up. It wouldn't have been a good move this year. If we trade him, I trust this current regime right now with whatever picks we get for him. I really do.

I'm glad we didn't do it last year. And if we don't do it this year, the value is going to drop. Drashley goes into next year because who knows he's going to make a full season next year, too. You don't know he's already missed ends of both seasons or missed time.

speaker-2 (02:05:56.679)
Mendoza can go out there and get hurt in the preseason.

speaker-0 (02:06:01.102)
the

speaker-2 (02:06:05.422)
But that's what I'm saying. Like if you go into it with the logic while he can get hurt, anyone can get hurt. You can't go into it with that logic. We got to get the most out of him before he gets hurt.

speaker-0 (02:06:07.116)
Like you go-

speaker-0 (02:06:16.514)
Hey, look at Antonio Brown. He burned his feet in a cryogenic thing or whatever, and it wasn't even at the at the gate at the team's facility. So you could get her anywhere. You get in a car accident on way to the on the way to training camp. Anything can happen. That's the case with the fucking bubbles that wouldn't go anywhere.

speaker-2 (02:06:33.934)
And then.

NFL simulators

speaker-0 (02:06:41.678)
Let him say that Max is generational in the way I put him up with the... Max isn't generational. We kind of...

speaker-2 (02:06:48.728)
Yeah

speaker-2 (02:06:53.044)
I won't big luck. promise I won't.

speaker-1 (02:07:01.998)
between braided and...

speaker-0 (02:07:03.598)
Yeah, that's true.

speaker-1 (02:07:06.6)
You know what? I believe that's by tech text with Max. He said it. He's like, you know, I have a great relationship with him. I text on a daily basis.

I like, do you really believe he texts him on a daily basis? Why not?

speaker-2 (02:07:24.11)
I'm just saying big dog. It could happen I did I only said that just he can't go into it like we got to do before he gets hurt because he can get hurt at any moment. Yeah

speaker-0 (02:07:24.43)
Hm

speaker-0 (02:07:38.306)
Well, didn't someone get her in the dry at the combine last year too?

speaker-1 (02:07:42.68)
Bro, players get hurt at the combine a lot like those.

speaker-2 (02:07:45.422)
Turn on the camera.

speaker-0 (02:07:46.87)
If somebody did last year, thought it was positive.

speaker-1 (02:07:50.582)
I thought somebody pulled a hammy or popped a hammer or something like that.

speaker-0 (02:07:56.524)
Well, we're at two hours. You guys ready? Yeah. Just think, Leo, we get the rinse and repeat and do this again tomorrow night.

speaker-2 (02:07:58.728)
Hell yeah!

speaker-2 (02:08:03.827)
good lord. That's why I said what I said about the mock drafting. I was like, really? Like at this point?

speaker-0 (02:08:10.414)
Yeah, I don't want to do mock drafts. I do them just for the fun of it on my own.

speaker-2 (02:08:12.418)
This is redundant,

speaker-2 (02:08:16.46)
down to read people's mock drafts like we did last time, like to get the chats, right? Yeah.

speaker-0 (02:08:23.83)
Okay, let's do that then we'll that out there right now anybody that's gonna be around tomorrow night Or if you're not Do a mock draft Send it to myself

speaker-2 (02:08:36.704)
Exactly, Piglet.

speaker-0 (02:08:39.798)
I get hurt. Yeah, exactly.

speaker-2 (02:08:45.152)
He heard standing in the long line of Disneyland. Feet start hurting.

speaker-0 (02:08:52.462)
Get cramped. Yeah, anybody that wants to do a mock draft and send it to us, send it to me, send it to Leo. If you know my Instagram is the same as my name right here, 401radarjeff and Leo's is CheetoLinus. Send it to us and we'll present it and we'll let the chat grade it. We won't say who it is. We'll reveal afterwards unless people guess it. So we'll do it like we did last time. Have some fun with it.

speaker-2 (02:08:54.638)
man

speaker-0 (02:09:21.324)
We'll break it up. just bashing on the chat and everything.

speaker-2 (02:09:25.934)
Whatever you want, 805. We had somebody send one in with like five trade backs, but just to make sure that we're able to tell. And if it's a lot, then just explain like what trades you made or whatever the fuck. Because that was one we couldn't figure it out. It took us a minute.

speaker-0 (02:09:41.258)
the

speaker-2 (02:09:46.882)
Damn, dick.

speaker-2 (02:09:53.972)
yes, right. He went into the twenty twenty seven draft. That's why I gave him a net.

speaker-0 (02:09:57.582)
the

speaker-2 (02:10:02.952)
Next year. hell. Yeah. And our day, I've been told that many a times people that are when I go out of state that I have that California thing.

speaker-0 (02:10:15.842)
BOOM!

speaker-2 (02:10:18.456)
Probably.

speaker-0 (02:10:19.002)
Is drafts I hit them out that good I'll send both the Jeff cuz I'll send both because Jeff ignored my no I didn't I brought it up I Didn't think no, I don't ignore anything. Anybody sends me

speaker-2 (02:10:42.403)
Mm.

speaker-1 (02:10:45.41)
Hey, did you guys, by the way, did you guys watch the hockey USA hockey? I don't watch hockey, but I was watching the Olympics, man. And a that's freaking bad ass. Congratulations to USA hockey, man. Hey, third gold freaking in 160 years.

speaker-2 (02:10:49.742)
I don't watch hockey.

speaker-1 (02:11:10.35)
was wild man, that was really good game. I don't know that was for nothing, but I was like damn that was an intense game.

speaker-0 (02:11:14.06)
I don't-

speaker-2 (02:11:19.63)
Can I ask you something? If you don't know the rules or anything, how do you know it was a good game?

speaker-1 (02:11:21.198)
Right here.

speaker-1 (02:11:25.762)
Because I was watching it.

speaker-2 (02:11:28.142)
Well if you don't know what you're watching

speaker-1 (02:11:29.422)
Because to me it was I'm evaluating it from my eyes. I'm not saying hey

speaker-2 (02:11:34.331)
Which is what? As long as the puck went in the net, it was like, yeah!

speaker-1 (02:11:38.382)
the

speaker-0 (02:11:46.222)
I will say the US goalie played an insane game. had 40 something shots shot at him.

speaker-1 (02:11:50.529)
I'm saying

speaker-1 (02:11:55.352)
Bro, he had one where he put this. Like, I don't even know how the fuck he stopped that. Like, he just had reflexes like I got to bro.

speaker-0 (02:11:57.014)
The ladies were all over the

speaker-0 (02:12:05.798)
I'll tell you where I was Sunday because I forget the game was on and also I saw my son post something about it being a great game. Sunday, I had to go. Dawn got her 10 year chip from AA, right? So I had my earbud in, I had the game on my phone. So as the meeting's going on, I'm like, I'm there just to present her with her coin, right? I don't go to the meetings.

speaker-2 (02:12:18.764)
Yeah, I remember you said that.

speaker-2 (02:12:23.886)
Wow.

speaker-0 (02:12:32.488)
I've been five years sober. I don't go to the meetings of the meetings. They don't do anything for me. So I had my phone playing it the whole time, but in my air bud, so you couldn't hear it. So I kept lifting the phone up a little bit, looking down and like, all right, yeah, keep watching. I watch a little bit more. And when it went to sudden at the overtime in the United States court, so the meeting was a few minutes in and then, you know, some people were up talking, everybody's quiet, sitting down there.

We scored the winning goal and I went just like this went yeah! In front of everybody! In the moment I forgot where I was. I said we just won! She was like, you're fucking watching the game? I'm like yeah look.

speaker-2 (02:13:03.319)
speaker-2 (02:13:11.01)
Fucking death

speaker-2 (02:13:19.288)
You're an asshole.

speaker-2 (02:13:43.496)
I know our day. want to go watch a Kings game. I haven't been to the staples. Well, yeah, it's a different name now, but yeah.

speaker-0 (02:13:51.054)
Fucking apocacy 14th on the metal tally and we don't even know we don't even have snow here 99 % of the country

speaker-2 (02:14:00.795)
Wasn't the breakdancer

speaker-0 (02:14:04.034)
Yep.

speaker-2 (02:14:06.272)
Jesus Christ.

speaker-0 (02:14:08.288)
And just as fast as they put breakdancing in the Olympics, was gone.

speaker-2 (02:14:12.686)
RUIN IT FOR EVERYONE, KAREN!

He's seen the Mighty Ducks, he knows the rules. I know right, that's about my extent of hockey goes between the Mighty Ducks and playing Blade of Steel on the Nintendo.

speaker-0 (02:14:27.982)
They practiced on sand dunes and still did great.

speaker-2 (02:14:32.174)
Hey, you could, you could, um, go down sand dunes like that. if you were, um, yeah, we used to do that when we were over, um, we were overseas and we'd go on the sand dunes on the boards and shit. Yeah.

breakdance or loosely use that

speaker-0 (02:14:55.96)
going to games is fun. Yeah, like we've got the the farm affiliate of the Boston, South Boston Bruins.

speaker-2 (02:15:07.714)
Here in Ontario, we have the amateur team or the whatever they the Ontario rain. Yeah, the Ontario rain.

speaker-0 (02:15:16.334)
Yeah, the step below. Who's who's their affiliate for the NHL?

speaker-2 (02:15:18.956)
Yeah

speaker-2 (02:15:22.38)
I believe it's the kings based on their logo. Yeah.

speaker-1 (02:15:28.186)
Colorado is known for hockey bro. DU is a national championship college team and Colorado Avalanche are freaking good hockey.

speaker-2 (02:15:38.232)
Did they win the championship last year?

speaker-1 (02:15:40.47)
I thought they did like they either wanted the year that last year or the year before.

speaker-2 (02:15:44.59)
Who won last year, The hockey championship?

speaker-0 (02:15:46.862)
for what.

speaker-0 (02:15:55.64)
Fuck, I forget.

speaker-1 (02:15:56.296)
Was it

speaker-2 (02:15:58.048)
that was a couple years ago yeah

speaker-0 (02:16:02.486)
Was it Vegas?

speaker-1 (02:16:08.11)
I don't think it was the Avalon.

speaker-0 (02:16:14.632)
Dallas size and the ones that used to be the

speaker-2 (02:16:17.72)
The Minnesota North Star.

speaker-1 (02:16:18.894)
You're so.

speaker-0 (02:16:20.162)
Yeah, there's still a. So there used to be a team in Hartford, Connecticut, the the Wailers. Is that their history of their team is still out there? I forget who they who they are now, though. Shipment, I forgot who won last year.

speaker-2 (02:16:26.508)
Yeah, I remember them.

speaker-1 (02:16:39.595)
Florida Panthers.

speaker-2 (02:16:40.181)
I was about to say I don't think Colorado one lies here, bro

speaker-0 (02:16:44.236)
Yeah,

speaker-1 (02:16:46.133)
Colorado.

speaker-2 (02:16:47.448)
Colorado 1, 2020.

speaker-0 (02:16:52.174)
And there's a goal.

speaker-2 (02:16:54.444)
The golden night swan.

speaker-0 (02:16:59.469)
I know he wasn't an active mute.

speaker-2 (02:17:01.184)
It was Panthers, Panthers, Vegas, Colorado, St. Louis, Washington, Chicago, the Kings in 2014. And that was the first time Colorado won in a while.

speaker-0 (02:17:05.325)
Carolina hurricanes. That's who it is.

speaker-1 (02:17:14.818)
Yeah, it was big time. remember.

speaker-0 (02:17:18.062)
Last time I went to an actual NHL game was in the old Boston Garden and it was the Bruins versus the Hartford Wailers.

speaker-2 (02:17:30.497)
Fuck the Boston Garden.

speaker-0 (02:17:32.61)
the old garden was amazing. All the stadiums now that built like this, that stadium was built straight up basically. The seats were angled in a little bit like where we were, we were on the top section and you could hang onto the rafters and lean over and look straight down at the goalie. It was insane. Look, if I spit, I'd land on the ice with it.

speaker-2 (02:17:34.894)
Nah, you're a lake man.

speaker-0 (02:18:01.095)
Boss.

speaker-2 (02:18:03.352)
Yeah, you keep telling me to go to a Golden Knights game. Tronin wants to take me.

speaker-0 (02:18:08.908)
If I get to Vegas with my kid, because he's a Knights fan, without him knowing I'm going to die.

speaker-2 (02:18:14.486)
Ethan's a Knights fan, right? LV? Yeah.

speaker-1 (02:18:18.841)
It's cool. You should definitely go to a game. went to a DU game and I thought it was intense. I never heard so many people cussing. Who's DU Denver University? It's just it's a big hockey school. So there I was like, my wife went to school there. So I was just like, cool. Like I went to a game and I was like,

speaker-2 (02:18:26.264)
VU.

speaker-2 (02:18:38.325)
NCAA Division I?

speaker-1 (02:18:40.494)
Mm-hmm.

speaker-2 (02:18:44.302)
I thought the schools over up there by Jeff were the ones who always won.

speaker-1 (02:18:48.334)
So did I, but I guess DU is really big in hockey.

speaker-2 (02:18:53.07)
Are they Jeff?

speaker-0 (02:18:54.023)
Here on the East Coast, it is big. It's usually Boston College.

speaker-2 (02:18:57.88)
That's what I thought.

speaker-0 (02:18:59.863)
Boston University.

speaker-2 (02:19:01.976)
The Gophers, right? Minnesota.

speaker-0 (02:19:05.122)
Minnesota's the goph is.

Maine, Maine hockey, Maine college, the hockey team is usually pretty damn good. Some of the New Hampshire ones that yeah, East coast is more of a hockey.

speaker-2 (02:19:18.103)
I just remember that when I watched Long Be a Miracle,

speaker-0 (02:19:27.534)
Because they all a lot of them are all Europeans and that's why some of them are so a lot of them are Polish to those names are tough to fucking pronounce Polish Czechs Russians

speaker-2 (02:19:39.95)
Yeah, the Eastern European dudes, yeah.

speaker-0 (02:19:42.19)
Yeah, good luck trying to say some of those names. Not many Smiths and Joneses in hockey.

speaker-2 (02:19:50.126)
California Steals Hockey Club. Why does that sound familiar, bro?

speaker-0 (02:19:54.99)
What's up SoCalCell?

speaker-2 (02:19:56.819)
I think I do remember that Ardell or Pete is it pizza said that pizza the California Seals hockey club that sounds familiar

speaker-0 (02:20:02.126)
Mm-hmm.

speaker-0 (02:20:08.725)
I wouldn't know.

speaker-0 (02:20:17.926)
So before we get out of here, will you got anything going on this week?

speaker-1 (02:20:21.698)
Yeah, man, I'm gonna kind of do a rinse and repeat on Thursday. We're gonna we're gonna spice it up a little bit differently though we got got some things going on and then after that.

speaker-0 (02:20:32.846)
Do you do that live or?

speaker-1 (02:20:34.636)
Yeah, we do it live sometimes. Sometimes we do it pre-recorded depends like on what everybody's schedule is looking like. So, but we'll be live on Thursday right before you guys come on. We come on before you guys do I think an hour before you guys do.

speaker-0 (02:20:49.358)
Yeah, we can want to.

speaker-1 (02:20:51.426)
Yeah, we go on about 7 p.m. and get off. We try to do about an hour, hour and a half.

speaker-0 (02:21:00.011)
are you doing a show again on Fridays or was that just a short-lived thing?

speaker-2 (02:21:04.878)
One.

speaker-1 (02:21:05.75)
I can't remember. Cheeto's busy, man. Cheeto's el trabajador right now. So he's out there working, trabajando.

speaker-0 (02:21:16.847)
Yeah, tomorrow night you'll see Leo and I back on again with the guys for Raider Connection. So two of us along with Nate and Jay from Just Raiders, baby. 10 PM Eastern time, seven o'clock Pacific. And before we go on, make sure you guys catch 805 Severe and Chris from Protector Shield doing the war room. Usually go on about two hours before us. So usually they finish up when we're getting ready to pop on.

than Nate and I would be on Thursday night. And that phone number is open. So anybody that wants to call me of a voicemail for Friday for Saturday night on a on a rate of take, you can leave a voicemail. I don't care what you say in the voicemail. can give to.

speaker-2 (02:22:03.778)
Does it have a caller ID?

speaker-0 (02:22:07.566)
Even voicemail they can just leave the voicemail I get the transcript

speaker-2 (02:22:13.026)
So you don't know who it was.

speaker-0 (02:22:15.444)
If they call me, it goes through my cell phone first, then it goes into the Google Voice. And if I got them in my phone, it'll tell me who it is. I don't have it, it won't tell me who it is.

speaker-2 (02:22:26.542)
I

speaker-0 (02:22:37.112)
So if I have you on my phone, we've exchanged phone numbers and you call me, I will know who it is.

speaker-2 (02:22:42.324)
Exactly exactly our doubt I was gonna bust one of those breath

speaker-1 (02:22:48.428)
I believe.

speaker-0 (02:22:49.23)
No.

speaker-2 (02:22:50.666)
That was the first thing that popped through my-

speaker-0 (02:22:53.102)
and

speaker-2 (02:22:58.09)
You ever watch the movie, Miss Delfire?

Yeah, how you would have got one of those for me, bro. I would have called in and like, yeah. Yeah. I am job.

speaker-0 (02:23:06.722)
Yeah!

speaker-0 (02:23:20.462)
So yeah, I got nothing else. Are we good? Nah. Alright everybody. Enjoy the new outro.

speaker-1 (02:23:25.963)
I'm good.

speaker-2 (02:23:32.514)
EEEE

speaker-0 (02:23:34.752)
everything. Stay safe, go Raiders.

speaker-1 (02:23:37.836)
RAAAA-