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The Nightingale by Kristin Hannah - Book Talk
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Have you ever felt as if a book could reach into the depths of your heart and squeeze? That's exactly what happened to us as we unpacked Kristin Hannah's "The Nightingale" in our latest Book Talk of the Lazy Girl Library. Darbi and Mikayla traverse the harrowing and heartfelt paths of sisters Vianne and Isabelle, whose stories of love, loss, and resistance during WWII France resonated with us on a deeply emotional level. We not only explore the intricacies of their bond but also confront the moral complexities they face, allowing for a candid reflection on our own potential responses to such trying times.
This episode is a testament to the emotional impact of a well-told story, and we invite you to join us as we peel back the layers of Hannah's compelling narrative that might just have you reaching for a box of tissues.
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Welcome to the Lazy Girl Library , the podcast , where reading is a pleasure and captivating adventures happen from the comfort of your couch . I'm your host , darby , and I'm Mikayla , and if you've ever spent more time rearranging your bookshelf than your priorities , then you , my friend , are in the right place . Hey , hey , hey . Welcome to episode six of Lazy Girl Library .
Speaker 2We're back and heartbroken and ready to digest yeah , I sounded way too excited and eager during that um hello excited and eager during that , um hello , I'm actually not feeling that way . Uh , this book was just . It was an intense one , and we're so excited to actually get to talk about it now , because we've been waiting for this podcast to record all of our thoughts and I'm so intrigued to hear your thoughts on this , darby .
Speaker 1I know I I told Mikayla before we started recording . I was like I hope I don't cry during the podcast and I'm not kidding . I was like when we start talking about things like , yeah , just if you hear me sound a little whiny . I'm so sorry , but man man , man , what a good , good book .
Speaker 2It's going to be a good book talk this time around . This is our book talk episode , so we'll be talking about our book club book of the month , which was the Nightingale by Kristen Hanna . In this episode , we're going to talk about our thoughts on the book . As per usual , answer some book club , ask questions about the book and give our final ratings , which it was a great one .
Speaker 1And then also we have our new book club book for next month , which is going to be fourth wing by rebecca yaros . So stay tuned at the end of the book for the book description . Um ,
Spoiler Warning!
Speaker 1warning , book spoilers ahead . Please head to the description and show notes to find where to skip to . You have been warned , yeah , so to kind of
Reading Recap
Speaker 1spark notes the Nightingale . It's basically a historical fiction that is set in France during the time of World War II , and it's about a family of two sisters who their mother dies when they're very young . They do not have a great relationship with their father and they don't even have a good relationship with each other and as this war starts you kind of get a dual perspective of both of their lives as they go through the war . And so the older sister she has a husband who gets deployed . He's forced to go serve in the war . He ends up going into like a work camp or something like they keep him in germany like he's a prisoner of war , thank you .
Speaker 1So he's there . And then she has a nazi who actually stays in the home with her . It blight , I think . How do you bill it ? Bill it something , yeah , um , war terminology the , the nazi , lives there with her and her daughter , and so you kind of see her journey of coping through not having her husband there , also having the restrictions .
Speaker 1She's much more of a rule follower and trying to just kind of stay under the radar , whereas her younger sister , isabel , has never been like a rule follower and immediately when the war starts she's like I need to help , I need to figure out what I can do . And so , in essence , she makes her way through the war and serving by helping with the resistance , basically , yeah , and a big part of her thing is that she helps soldiers who have fallen out of airplanes . She helps them get back out of france so they can do it again . And for the allies , yes , for the allies , yeah , um . And so then you kind of see her perspective of war through , um , kind of being in the thick of the resistance . But there are so many more details that go into this . You see the family that was not close , men back together .
Speaker 2you see the love stories that happen you see the character development from like the start of the awards , because the book takes you through the start to the end of world war ii . So you see the character development and how much these characters change and evolve in their thought process on everything , completely develop as time goes on and they're experiencing more of these hardships and what they've had to like overcome for it .
Speaker 1There's also a kind of narrator of the present day of one of the sisters and what's kind of happening then , and they're invited to go to France . She lives in America now and she's invited to go back to France for a like , reunion of such and as , like a like she's being honored there , Sorry .
Speaker 2And you don't know which one it is . As you're reading too , you kind of assume that it's one . Until the very end , we'll get there , we'll get there . But yeah , oh , it was so good , all right , so
Initial Thoughts on the Book
Speaker 2let's get into it . Darby , what were your initial thoughts for this book ?
Speaker 1I can't get into it . I'm going to cry . I don't have a heart anymore because it's been ripped out . Essentially , it was seriously so good and moving and powerful and I just I don't have enough good things to say about the book . I think it should be read in schools .
Speaker 1Like it was really good , moving , enlightening . I felt so many emotions . It was really good , moving , enlightening . I felt so many emotions . It was a really good book and we've been reading a lot of fantasy , fictional books , so this was just such like a you know brought back into reality , Even though it's still fiction .
Speaker 2It just it's a different type of adventure and it's like a breath of fresh air from , like , the fantasy realm , but still having such a moving and compelling story that really like captivates you and draws you in , but being based on like no , the story isn't based on true events , but just like true events of like the war in that time that the story is set well , I um read , like the author's note , like acknowledgements or whatever , and she does say that they were like she did hear stories of obviously not these exact stories , but she heard stories from two women that like that , like , oh , I'm so glad you read that I always skip the author's notes and anything extra .
Speaker 2I get straight to the meat and potatoes .
Speaker 1I might be like miss saying a couple of things , but I'm pretty sure it was like she heard like two stories about like two women I don't think they were sisters , but it kind of like started her and then , through writing the book and I think since the book has come out , she's heard various other stories wow , and in doing research she found so many other stories that like led to addition . So I feel like there is a lot of like realness in it as well . But yeah , my thoughts , initial thoughts , are just wow no same .
Speaker 2I mean , I think the book left me such an emotional wreck like reading the ending it really knocked the wind out of me . I've never had that feeling . I literally it was a gasp . I literally it was a gasp , an immediate sob like I . Just it was phenomenal . 10 out of 10 for me you couldn't get like any better than what this book and I love , like the ethical and like moral dilemmas that she brings up it was in the war .
Speaker 2Yeah , it's such a complex book that it's really like . I think you can enjoy it if you're just reading at surface level , but if you are a reader like me , it really brings in a lot of these like in-depth , like analysis or like not analysis , but things for you to contemplate while you're reading that don't necessarily have a true defining like answer , right or wrong , yes or no . It's living in this like gray scale of it all that really makes you think about that time period too and like what those people were going through .
Speaker 1Yeah , it's so neat . Everyone . I have not heard a single bad thing about this book from anyone that I've talked to that has read it . I've only heard raving reviews , and it makes sense because I am now a raving reviewer .
Speaker 2We can now attest that this is a fantastic book .
Favorite Part
Speaker 2Yeah , did you have a favorite part ?
Speaker 1Yes , I did have a favorite part , but actually it's so hard to think of a favorite part because I'm going to say this the whole time .
Speaker 1It was also good , like I think some of my favorite parts was just how the family was able to reunite in a sense of like healing , like past healing , because obviously at the start none of them were close with each other and it seemed like they didn't close with each other and it seemed like they didn't really like each other much . Right , and just to see that like healing was so cool , like I really liked that part . And then also I loved just how much value was placed on loving in the present , because you don't know what's happening tomorrow . And that goes for like all of the relationships , not just any romantic relationships in the book . But I felt like that like love and value and connection with people was like a main point , at least for me . That like stayed at the top of my mind of just like the people who were friends and stuff , like everyone was just so loving and that was a big deal . So I very much enjoyed that and also more story I really loved Gaten from the start .
Speaker 1And I loved how he was like , weaved through . I liked his character .
Speaker 2I love how it wasn't like an emphasis on the book or like it wasn't like a main plot point , but it was like a nice addition to it , like if you took that part away , it takes a little bit away from the story , but not a whole lot .
Speaker 2You still get the compelling story that it was . It takes a little bit away from the story , but not a whole lot . You still get the compelling story that it was . It just adds this new dynamic to it even more and helps really show the growth and progress of Isabel too , from where she started with Gaten because he was basically with her from the beginning of the story to then how they ended . Yeah , I think it helped show her growth through and supplement that .
Speaker 1Yeah , and my first thought that I was going to say is like , well , if he wasn't in it it would be like even sadder . But then I was like , wait , no , he still had . Like there was still so much sad storyline with him too . So but I do , yeah , he was one of my faves . What about you ?
Speaker 2What were your favorite parts . I loved the like feminist themes of this book because it was done in such a beautiful way . It wasn't very in your face , like if you're comparing to something like thrown a glass which I absolutely love still too but she's very much like the main character . There is like in your face like I can do anything the boys can do and I can do it better , like the swagger for it all yeah , whereas this , or even like sorry not to cut you off , but or even like the barbie movie , where they have a whole monologue of like right , like that's a great movie in itself , but like this is a cool different way absolutely , whereas this one was much more subtle .
Speaker 2It was like I am woman hear me roar very graceful and it's like the quiet strength of it all which I think spoke more volume than the ones that are in your face not to take away from that , but it's just different and it spoke to me far greater than like some of these other ones and hit the point home , I think , a little bit more , for how much like these women went through and like their own battle in the war that people don't remember , forget about because you're so focused on the actual war itself and the men putting their lives on the line at the front , but you forget about the woman left at home and what they're going through with the enemy invading and everything too , and what they're doing to help with the war . So I think she did a phenomenal job and also showing both sides of that . For the two different women . They handled the situations very differently Like Isabel going out and like putting herself out there , becoming part of the resistance , like what can I do to help ?
Speaker 2What can I do to help , versus vianne being at home . And like I have to take care of my home . I have to take care of my child and do everything that I possibly can to make sure we stay alive and survive through this but then she still knows , like well , these things aren't right .
Speaker 1And she still does have an impact too right it just isn't a different way absolutely .
Speaker 2It's like it shows the different heroes regardless , but the different paths , that in the heroism that you could take , and I really loved that
Least Favorite Part
Speaker 2about this book . Did you have a least favorite ? I know it's hard to talk about with this book , but did you have a least favorite part ?
Speaker 1yeah , I think the least favorite part for me was obviously the dad dying , which like needed to happen in the story . Like it . It did add a lot um to it , but it was just so sad . And also realizing that isabel was dead and was not the present narrator was also sad , because she makes you , like on purpose , believe that like she's the narrator . So that was just gut-wrenching .
Speaker 1But then kind of that just leads me , honestly , all of the deaths it just like had such a big impact like all of them felt so heavy because I think so much was so sparse for them during that time , like you only had the people you had , and so when that was gone , it was like oh , like no food on the table , no friend across the street , like I don't know it , just that I feel like so much value was placed on the love and the people that you have , and so every time that someone was taken away it was just like such a dagger , like oh that must have been so hard , so like we have nothing , but at least we have each other .
Speaker 2But then even that starts dwindling . Yeah , yeah , absolutely .
Speaker 1And like knowing how , like , in a sense , a lot of this and this is fiction , but this is a real war that they're talking about and so just kind of you know being reminded of that and like the real people that had to go through lots of these things right in different ways , in a real way , not a fictional way like that added to the sadness too I think my least favorite part is also my favorite part of this book , which I think speaks to the author's like abilities , because it's the character complexity .
Speaker 2I started off and for a good half of this book both sisters frustrated me entirely Because , like on one hand you had Isabel , who is just like too pushy , too forward , too arrogant .
Speaker 1Yes , they both were definitely on like opposite extremes .
Speaker 2And she was like you know , she was thoughtless and careless and like putting people in danger without realizing what she's doing , and so that's really frustrating . To like watch or like read as the reader with her , but then with Vianne , she's like the ostrich sticking her head in the sand . If I ignore the problem , it's just going to go away . When that is not the case , like you need to buck it up , girlfriend , pull yourself up by the bootstraps . And like you got to do something because you have a family to take care of and you have a house to take care of . Well , your husband's not coming back right , at least anytime soon . You don't even know if he will . Like you got to take care of yourself and do something . You can't just hide in the corner and hope everything will work out .
Speaker 2So on both ends it was really frustrating for me , but that's what led to it being so beautifully complex , because you got to see that growth in both of them move forward throughout the story . So from where they started with that to where they ended , it was like 100 necessary . I don't fault the author by any means for it , but it's like when you're in the moment , you're like , oh , these people there are definitely times where I was like , okay , come on , like don't act that way , yeah , so I feel you .
Speaker 2Yeah , I don't know . It's a complex book for me , darby complex yeah it was crazy
Which Character Do We Relate To More
Speaker 2.
Speaker 1Speaking of the sisters being so different , who do you think you related to more if you were in that situation , or were you like a mix ? I ?
Speaker 2wish I could say it was Isabel . I think anybody that reads this book wish you could say like I would be the one putting myself out there on the front and like putting myself in danger to help the cause .
Speaker 2But if I'm honest with myself , I know I'm not . I am not that person . I would 100 be a vian in this situation . I'd hope I'd be a little bit more graceful in the beginning with it . But it is a time of war . Who knows like to even think and put yourself in that time period with those people , knowing that it is like a real thing that these people went through is just something that it's like a humbling thing to think about and like you think you'd act one way . But how would you really in these situations ? But I think I would , just , knowing me and myself , I'd be more concerned with like taking care of my family , taking care of my friends , my community , and keeping us as strong as possible , moving forward , helping however I can in that sense , but not risking their lives to help those of the strangers , kind of thing , I guess . So that's where I land . What about you ?
Speaker 1Yeah , kind of copy-paste , took the words out of my mouth . I would love to say Isabel , but I think more Vianne . It's really tough to say because I would love to say Isabel , but I think more Vianne . It's really tough to say because I am , for sure , a rule follower , teacher's pet , like I just want to do the right thing . But also I think what's hard is I want to do the right things , I want to help people is kind of what drives me to want to follow rules , because I feel like it then helps others . So in that sense I don't know what I would be like , because I think it's a mix of the sisters like I , I would think that I would follow rules from the start , but I think I would have been more empathetic to people around me , right , but at the same time , like we're saying , like I .
Speaker 1I've never been in that position . I hope to never have to be in that position . Like I don't , I don't know . So also , I am like Isabel in a sense of sometimes I like act first , then think later . Not a great trait , but no , it can be , yeah , but so so I do think I could be a little impulsive and I don't know what that would do to me in a worse setting . But also what if I'm like too scared ?
Speaker 2I don't know , I have no idea . I have no idea . It's so weird to try to put yourself in that position to think about like what you would even do because you think you know yourself . But then also hard times do crazy things to people . Yeah , like what you're willing to risk what you're willing to do things to people .
Speaker 1Yeah , like what you're willing to risk , what you're willing to do , yeah , I think , okay , now let's do each other . I think you would be more vianne , but like I think you're a mix . I think you would stay home like I don't think you would go out and have an impact , but I think you would have stayed home and started helping children right away . Like I still think you would have looked for ways to help , but you would like stayed with your family and would still like followed the like general rules . But I think you would have like started quicker with like okay , this isn't like you would realize . Like , okay , hubby's like not coming back , might not come back ever . Like I need to do something . That's a great picture for you .
Speaker 2I appreciate that to do something . That's a great picture for you . I appreciate that Similar but different , because again I think you'd stay home too late at the end . But I think you'd be more like Isabel in the very beginning of this book , where she's like doing the small rebellions , where she's like helping pass out the papers or like , honestly no , I thought about how she uses her like girlhood to get away with things and how she's like I'm just a girl , like I know nothing I totally could see you pulling something like that off for sure absolutely like in the bookshops or like to get away with like things like that , because if anybody could , you totally could well , that was really nice .
Speaker 2I actually don't know how to flirt but but you're so good with people and just like , yeah , I'd be nice to everybody .
Speaker 1Yeah I would definitely be nice to all the people , whether they're invading me or not . I would be like please , I'm just a little tiny girl .
Speaker 2Yeah , I like that I love how we're the similar but different yeah , same same , but different yep ,
Discussion of the Ethical Complexities
Speaker 2okay . So another real big ethical question here is like what are your thoughts on captain beck ? Just for context for any of you is the first Nazi that was billeted at Deanne's house .
Speaker 1I feel like you have more of an emotional connection to this question and to Captain Beck , Whereas , like I followed Isabel's story , I feel like more strongly and all that was going on there , and also I could be wrong . We haven't talked about this , but it was just my assumption . Anyway , my thoughts on Captain .
Speaker 1Beck . I think that Captain Beck was as ethically perplexed as Fianne , or he like , left me that way Because of all the gifts and help that he provided with her . You could tell that there was more than just like I'm a brute soldier staying here . Like you could tell that there was more than just like I'm a brute soldier staying here . Like you could tell that there was empathy . However , right before his death makes me question it . He was really hard to read , since they're both trying to stay so surface level with each other . So you don't know , I don't know , it was very it's very difficult to read him , but I do think he had empathy and I do think that he could have crossed lines with her if the chance had presented itself .
Speaker 2Oh yeah . I think there would have been regret , but I think that it would have happened does a phenomenal job with his character , specifically for showing the humanity of the enemy , because it's so true , like in war in real life , and like how there's , even though you're fighting for different causes , there's still like they're still human on the other side there's still emotions , they still have a family , like they think that they're doing the right thing , even though it's not the right thing .
Speaker 2I think that this whole character and this complexity between captain beck and vianne like really does a good job kind of giving the reader that different perspective on that , yeah , so often they mention like they're just boys .
Speaker 1They're just boys like you know . You don't think about . Like they're not the ones creating the master plans , they don't know what they're doing .
Speaker 2They're not Hitler , no they are not Like .
Speaker 1they are just fresh kids , most of them .
Speaker 2They just signed up to join to fight for their nation , just like any other person that joins Something , initially they probably thought was like a good thing not knowing Serve their country , a good paying job for their families , like going gonna bring honor to their family , not realizing how heavy things were going to get from the other side .
Speaker 2And you're just following orders yeah , at that point , because you can't just turn around and opt out either like then you're almost a prisoner , a very different kind , but like well , an ethical prisoner , yeah well and even in the book he talks about , like how his superiors are getting so frustrated with him for , like , losing the airmen or different things that are going wrong , that he could lose his life too .
Speaker 2So like , even if they wanted to opt out and they realize that they're in the wrong , like sometimes they just there is no option for that without losing your life in that as well , and when you have a family you get back to , like he did , then that's like something that you're having to deal with internally and ethically too . But at the same time he was . He kind of falls into the bystander situation where it's like he might not have been doing the wrong by his hand himself , but he was still the bystander , watching and letting it happen . So like when they were um , the first time that they were deporting the Jewish women and children from Vian's town , he was there with a whip in his hand , corralling all these people into these train cars to deport them . Now , did he use it ? Was he yelling ? Did he actually hurt women and children ? He says that he didn't , but even just by being there and having that there , like you're still complying with it too .
Speaker 1Yeah , but also , would he have been whipped if he wasn't there ?
Speaker 2Right , that's another . Exactly , it's such a complex situation and I think , for as like short a time as he's kind of like part of this , it's such a huge part of this story and , like the war itself , at least for me personally , it's something that really stuck with me that I knew he would . You know me . Well , it really it does . It makes you question things , um , and just like in real war too , it makes you like kind of like remember humanity a little bit within such an inhumane like situation which the next nazi was not exactly he had no humanity , not at all .
Speaker 2That was . That was a real , real bad situation . Yeah , actually wait that , adding that into my least favorite , it's just him , his character oh true , yeah , and that whole scene with him and vianne , yeah , it was oh heart-wrenching , so hard to like stomach when you're reading like some of like the abuse that she's suffering . But he is very much emotionally manipulating her by like if you don't follow what I'm telling you to do , like I'm going to hurt your kids , kind of thing .
Speaker 1So it makes you realize , like , how great Beck was because , like the whole , pouring out the leftover coffee , like even the smallest of human , decent things that he could have done , he didn't do Right , like the new Nazi didn't do . Also , this leads me to another thought of just how powerful , like every it's so crazy Every character is so like powerful and impactful and I don't know now I'm thinking about Sophie and all that she went through and how strong she was absolutely like it's all she knew pretty much from like childhood and growing up .
Speaker 2By the time , I think , when we meet her she's like what ? Like 9 , 10 ish , something on those , and then by the time you end she's like 14 , 15 , so like that's her entire childhood , that she and she's not young enough to like forget about it . She's gonna remember it all , and to have to see your mom go through that , understand things that you shouldn't have to understand at that age , makes you feel for the children that truly went through that too yeah , even though van's trying to hide so much from her , it's almost like none of it's hidden , like none of it .
Speaker 1Because how can it be ?
Speaker 2she's in the , she's there too right in the same house , same town . She's seeing everything that's going on and to remind you like children are so much more perceptive than we give them credit for too yeah , it is interesting .
Speaker 1I wish we could have heard a little bit more about her post the war , because she seemed very bitter at the end . So I I wonder , like as as an adult , how she was .
Speaker 2If there was one thing that I wanted to change because I'm going to talk about this later , but we can talk about it now One thing I wanted to change about the book would be that I wish that we could have heard a little bit more about Sophie after the war and like , because she was such a pivotal part in this whole thing , because she was such a pivotal part in this whole thing or not pivotal , but she was woven into this story and she was such a driving factor for Vianne throughout this whole thing . And then I feel like at the end , when we're doing the flashback into the present day or what's present in the book , that to find out she had cancer and then died so young . But that's such a tragedy in and of itself . Was there any happiness for her ? Did she have a husband ? Did she have children ?
Speaker 2Yeah , it's very glossed over , yeah , I wanted to know , just like okay , I understand that there's not always happy endings for people , but just to know a little bit more about her post-war life . I would have liked to see .
Speaker 1Yeah , I think a lot of the post-war in general . I wanted like a little bit more from but , yeah , um , if we're jumping into this , something that I wish like happened or addition , I would love more background on the dad and just like what made him the way he was . Like I get the first or the great war changed him , but like what else ? Like how was he before ? Like what was the stark difference ? Like we get like little bits and pieces of it , but not enough to truly understand .
Speaker 2Enough for me , absolutely , I agree I'm like enough to like why vianne then wanted the name like her son after him too .
Speaker 1Like , obviously , to have like such greater impact on them yeah , that leads me to another thing why , like I would love to have gotten more background on vianne in the present day why she hadn't shared with her son that I kind of get like you don't like how awful , but at the same time it's like well , I want to know .
Speaker 2That was shocking in and of itself too , to put those puzzle pieces together from the time that the Nazi was there .
Speaker 1I thought I was done crying and then I just started back up again . Exactly I realized .
Speaker 2And then it is . It is . It's the when , at the very end of this book , when the puzzle pieces start coming together for so many things you're like , oh my gosh wait a second .
Speaker 1Yeah , also a fun addition when I was predicting I don't really think ahead but one thing I initially thought when we learned that gaten was working on bombs and that kind of stuff , I thought that was going to play a bigger role , and so I originally thought that Gaten was going to bomb the camp that Isabel was at and that's how she would escape , or like something like that . Like his bombing was going to be somewhere that , like another main character was Like that was going to have more of an impact . That would have been good .
Speaker 2This , ironically , is the only time that I wasn't like predicting Wow , it was the only , and I think it's because , if truly I underestimate historical fiction , uh-huh , because I feel like when I'm reading historical fiction it's much more like this is present , this is the story , like I'm not predicting anything because it's based on something that happened in the past . I'm already living in the present of it , or like know of whatever present happened . Yeah , so , even though within the story you're kind of predicting a little bit , for me it's not as much as like this greater unknown , I guess , so I'm more present within what's happening . Um , so that's kind of funny .
Speaker 2Oh , how the tables have turned , but that's why I think , like at the end , like you don't think about historical fictions having the plot twists , that they do not , that they don't , obviously , but when you pick up a fantasy or like a mystery , like you know that there's something coming to like surprise you or shock you , versus with a historical fiction . It's not as like expected . So when it does happen , it's even more like a head turn , like , oh my gosh , wait a second , it's crazy and it's also .
Speaker 1It's like like you could argue like it's not necessarily even a plot twist , it it's how the story's told , which is crazy True , absolutely , like you know . So that's cool too . Testament to Kristen Hanna . Like can you make any story like have a plot twist just in the way that you say it ? Right , maybe , like I don't know about , that was cool .
Speaker 2Mm-hmm .
Speaker 1It was Kristen and Hannah . Phenomenal job . I have a question Do you or what were your thoughts on sending Ari away to live with his Jewish family in America ? Do you think that's what Rachel would have actually wanted ?
Speaker 2So again , so many complex questions , and whether I have a trance or not , I really don't .
Speaker 1I feel like you're going to be thinking about this book like 10 years .
Speaker 2This will be my Roman empire . Exactly Every time I see you , you're going to be thinking about this book .
Speaker 1Like 10 years time , this will be my Roman Empire . Exactly Every time I see you , you're going to be like I thought of another epic . It's so true . It's so true Because they're honest and it's text at midnight .
Speaker 2It's such a gray scale which I love . Like I think that's like one of my biggest things . If you know me , I say it all the time . We don . We live in a gray scale . Everything is there's no . Like black and white , yes or no , right or wrong , like it's all fluctuates , depending on the situation how hard we try to be .
Speaker 1Everyone loves to try and even ourselves any room to like . You know , we love to categorize ourselves , but we're it's different ?
Speaker 2oh , absolutely so , and that's why I find so compelling about this book , because there are , it's , such a like gray scale within this . So for this I mean , obviously I'm not jewish , I can't speak on it as like an expert by any means or like , especially at that time and with all they went through .
Speaker 2So this is sheerly outside perspective my opinion from reading this book as a fiction novel yeah um , I think I can understand the want to send him to his american family because from the jewish community he lost so much it's almost like edge of extinction . You want to send him to his american family because from the jewish community he lost so much it's almost like edge of extinction .
Speaker 2You want to preserve , and they say like whole generation exactly , you want to preserve as many people as you can , to like build your generations back up and like preserve your culture from dying out . And so I totally understand that , like vianne can't give him that jewish life that he would have with his jewish family , and so I don't fault them for that by any means . But on the other hand , I do think that rachel loved vianne so much that she gave him ari to protect , and that I feel like that was almost the like that's where she wants him to be , and so that's where I think she would have wanted him to be . And like even Vianne said like yes , she can't raise him Jewish because she's not Jewish , but she can do her best to like remind him that this is still his identity and that he's not Catholic French boy yeah , kind of .
Speaker 1But what's to say he would follow that if none of his family , which he believed they were at that time , he didn't even know he .
Speaker 2It's true I think at that point you're leaving the choice up to him in a way and like what he wants to follow , but at least you're not like denying him that cultural , that right kind of . But again he's also like super young in the book . So , yeah , can a four-year-old really make that decision ?
Speaker 2absolutely not but just like as you grow up , it's kind of like when you adopt a little kid from like a different culture .
Speaker 2You want them to like , learn and understand and know about their culture . But that doesn't take away from the fact that they're living with you in a different culture . But if they're young you it's kind of hard to make them understand that till they're a little bit older you just can do the best that you can , yeah , so I think it's kind of like that situation . So I think that in my personal opinion , I think that if he was in an orphanage , like some of these other children , it makes perfect sense send him to a family that's going to love him , to teach him , to learn . But he kind of already had that . He had a family structure that because he's so young he thinks that that's his family to . Then he already lost so much of and from his original family to rip him from his new family again the like emotional trauma that can cause and psychological trauma . I feel like I just wish that he could have stayed or at least stayed in contact yeah , that was my big thing , um , when I was thinking about this question .
Speaker 1Is that well one ?
Speaker 1similarly , this isn't really something that I don't know if I feel qualified to even like answer , um , having never been in any situation like this , but from a fictional perspective , if I were to give an opinion , I think it was right for him to be with his blood family , but I I do simply think that they should have let vian and ari keep in contact , whether it's like you know writing letters , or at least even just knowing where they are , even if it's like hey , like please don't write him for like five years , even if it was something crazy like that , but just to like like let them know that they're okay , because like that was a loss for vianne too , like her one last tie to her best friend . So I think contact would have helped in that situation . I think rachel herself would have been conflicted on it and I think it would have helped the reader more if we had ever heard rachel talk about that family right .
Speaker 2So I think that would have added so much more and made this a different answer maybe or like her faith , like we heard so much about their friendship , but you never knew that rachel was jewish until they start to the stars .
Speaker 2And then you heard the list when she has to make the list of all the jewish teachers , like that's the first time we ever hear about it . And even then , the only time you hear about is if the end mentions that oh yes , rachel's jewish . But you never hear rachel truly like talk about it either yeah , that's true .
Speaker 2So I feel like if she was more like not to say that she was devote , because now we're talking about like the theories of fictional people and like what goes on in their brains , which I mean they're fictional at this point . But if you , I feel like , from at least my perspective and various perspectives , if you heard about them more , it might have like swayed me a little bit differently , like because she's like so strong in her faith and she really wants her kids to grow up in this faith . But you didn't have that . So it means maybe leans me more towards like the inside . But I do understand it's complex it's complex .
Speaker 1Yeah , I feel like there needs to be a different book for like her story and her side , because obviously this one was about two france , right , catholic girls , you know . So it was very interesting . Yeah , what about their father ? Do you think he redeemed himself from his past with a sacrifice to save Isabel ?
Speaker 2I don't know if he redeemed himself versus truly gained forgiveness . I don't think that he had enough time to redeem himself for the failed childhood that he gave them and being basically an absent father after their , their mother died . They grew up orphans , in a way , because the father , just like , was not present whatsoever and then , even when isabel tried so , so desperately to get him to love her , even just pay attention to her , that he wouldn't . I don't know if , like this one single act can like redeem you for everything , but it's not to say that it wasn't worth their forgiveness and the like , thank him for his sacrifice and , like I forgive you from from this point , like from the , the letter that he wrote them and everything , to apologizing . I think , yeah , I think it's . You can't erase the hurt by it and that's a better way . I think you can't erase the hurt by it , but you can heal now by forgiving yeah , I think it goes beyond , like the sacrifice of his life .
Speaker 1I do think that , in the end , redeemed is such like an interesting word . I do think that , like you're saying , they were healed , like they , like Isabel , felt love for him and felt loved by him . And same with the end , but in a different way . I think that the letter does more justice than the death itself . Along with seeing Isabel as an adult like him , like finally seeing isabel as an adult and working with her during the war , like you can tell that that was something that they both needed so desperately and didn't know that they needed . Well , maybe isabel knew that she needed him , but you you could just tell that there was a bond growing right between that and I think that that for sure helped mended things as well .
Speaker 2Right , yeah
Emotional Impact of Historical Fiction
Speaker 2, so sad . This year ripped away Gosh . Which gets into this next question , which is which is the most emotional or like moving part of this book for you ? Obviously , the whole thing is just emotional , yeah .
Speaker 1All of it , but one thing I kept thinking about how this was truly reality for so many people Because , again , it's historical fiction but it's based on a real war and real people . And so I mean selfishly , I started I was thinking about myself and how I'm so lucky and blessed that I'm sitting here on a comfy couch , with more shoes than I can count , you know , and that I'm not living in war right now . So I think an emotional part for me was just like putting it into perspective of just like gosh , this was so real , and like I can't even like pretend to imagine what any of it feels like Right , we get so comfortable Like Vianne was the perfect example that we get so comfortable in our lives and everything going great that it can truly change in an instant .
Speaker 1Yeah , we take that for granted .
Speaker 1Yeah , so that was a really big part for me . And then going back to the dad , the dad sacrifice was like so powerful , I think , because I'm really close with my dad and so trying to put myself in her shoes made it so much worse and hit so hard . Oh my gosh , I was like shaking on the couch , justin . Uh , my husband was playing video games and like yelling and like bogey . My dog is sitting on the couch with me and I'm like convulsing and he walks out and he's like . He's like are you actually crying ? And like laughs and I'm like it's not funny , like it was . Oh my , I was like get out of here .
Speaker 1But also give me a hug .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , no , I think I agree . For me it is . The whole book is very emotional and it's very heart-wrenching and just kind of like the boy in the striped pajamas type of thing , where you're like oh my gosh I've never seen that movie , oh don't . I know , I think that's why . I haven't watched it . I know that I , that these people went through , and to remind yourself that it is a real thing , that happened , is like even worse , especially when they're describing , like Isabella going through the concentration camps and everything Like it's just so hard to picture and to know that it was real is so heart-wrenching , so like .
Speaker 2That's definitely like one aspect I think is so real throughout this whole book . But for me , the one thing that got me was the very end Because , like I definitely like I don't cry a whole lot , I'm not a big crier I definitely , reading this book , got a little teary-eyed , but no tears fell on my cheeks like I . It was emotional for me but it didn't hit me the way my more streaming , my more racing down my face . I just it's not that it didn't hit me but it was just like I'm not a huge crier .
Speaker 2Yeah , until we were at that podium and all of a sudden we realized that this is my sister isabel I think that's what she said .
Speaker 2It was the shock moment for me , like I still had hit me yet because this entire time I was living in the comfort of thinking that isabel survived so like even going through the horrific like concentration camps or coming out of that and being so sick she's coughing up blood . I'm like it's okay , she's gonna survive , because she's only telling this story . Yeah , and then , immediately when it was vianne , my heart dropped . I was like it was literally a moment of sheer shock . And then the next few sentence when she's like and isabel died in gaten's arms .
Speaker 2In that moment , when everything was pure bliss , I'm getting chills and goosebumps right now . I cannot even describe to you that moment . I'm getting chills and goosebumps right now . I cannot even describe to you that moment in me , darby . It literally felt like a bullet train hit me in the gut . I lost my breath . It was a true shock and I immediately , like started saying things . I convulsed Like , I sobbed , like just sobbed so hard and I couldn't stop . And through the end of the book I was just sobbing . I had to take laps around the house , like I'm thinking about this for 10 minutes straight , like afterwards , like just sobbing , like trying to calm myself down , trying to process these emotions .
Speaker 2Only other book that I've sobbed like this for was Kingdom of Ash .
Speaker 1And I still think that this one I sobbed more , oh yeah , at this point in the book or at the end , because I was the same way . I started convulsing again at this part . But now Justin was sitting on the couch watching Brooklyn Nine-Nine and like we're not talking to each other , I'm just like holding the book , shaking holding the book and like sobbing , and we're not even like . He doesn't even like say anything , like he just knows that I'm like I'm in another world right now . But I felt the same way . But it was just a really funny scene , like I wish someone could have recorded it because it was like justin bogey me .
Speaker 2I got lucky because my fiance , josh , was at a golf tournament that time , so like I had the house to myself . But I definitely I don't know if you do this with justin , but as soon as he came home I was like , oh my gosh , he'll never know what I just read . Like I just went through this most dramatic thing and telling him about like like just coming back , walk through the door like he doesn't know anything about anything , like I'm sorry that happened to you .
Speaker 1Yeah yeah , the only . I don't really do that with justin one because , like fantasy stuff , he hates mythical things like , so does josh yeah .
Speaker 1So even if I try to like a vampire , he's like no , like , so typically I don't tell him stuff . So I didn't really tell him this either , because also I knew he wouldn't get it Like it's not going to hit him the way it's hitting me right now . So I didn't really say anything besides the first time he asked me if I was okay and I was like no , her dad died . That was the only thing I told him , and then I just said like it was so powerful .
Speaker 2Yeah , I'm just such a like I've come to realize like , in order for me to process things , I'm very much a talker , like I have to talk out loud to process everything . Um , like I can think through it in my head , which is fine , because you're an introvert I know right , um , and I can do it in my head and process with myself to a point , but it takes me much longer other various michaelas , it's true , I have a problem .
Speaker 2My mom says I'll never be lonely because I always have myself . Shout out mom , I have a wall to talk to , so I'm good , I can process it myself . It'll just take me twice as long versus if I can like . You might not have zero idea of what I'm talking about , but if I'm just vocalizing it to you , it processes like twice as fast for me in a way . So like for Josh poor guy .
Speaker 1Even with fantasy things or anything like I'll finish a book and I immediately will just like dump everything on him and all my thoughts and he's like uh-huh , uh-huh , scrolling on tiktok . Oh no , I can't do that . I need active listening . So like I need them to be like oh , no way . And then what did the , the stegosaurus like then what happened ? Like I don't know . I need more like attention .
Speaker 2It depends , like if we're talking about like true topics , then yes , but like in this case like or if just coming off In book worlds .
Speaker 1We know that's not there for today .
Speaker 2I'm good , I just need to dump it , just dump it . Yeah , yep , I need to get off my chest , but yeah , that was the most wrapping it back around after our tangent . That was the most emotional part . Something fictional that it's just . Oh my gosh .
Speaker 1You know what I want to know , listeners If you read this book and didn't cry , please let us know . Yes , I'm so curious because , if so , there's something wrong with you .
Speaker 2If so , you need help , not really .
Speaker 1It's okay , everybody's different .
Speaker 2Not really , not really , I cry when a butterfly dies , like you know , and I don't , and it's okay . It's okay to not be a crier . I am like that . Just you know , for me there's certain things that it'll just get you .
Speaker 1Yeah , it's just crazy , I wonder .
Speaker 2I am just curious , though , how impacted other people were , because I feel like this really , really hit both of us well and I think like the goodreads score , it's like a 4.67 or something , which is like huge on goodreads , like books . Do not get that higher rating on goodreads . So I think that just like is even more a testament to like how phenomenal this book is .
Speaker 1I'm curious . I want to go read some of the low scores and see why they wrote it low but I also kind of don't , because it'll ruin it for me a little bit too . I feel like no see , this is a , this is a five star for me , and so nothing can touch it . No one's opinions . I'm in a bubble now . It's perfect for me . What um ? And inside out it's like the core memory .
Speaker 2For me it's uh . It's not that it ruins it for me , but it's like adding more information to it because I'm you already it Because I'm such an over processor , like overthinker , so it's like it's not changing my perspective . It's adding more information to it . So I might point out things that I like go back and I realize I'm like oh yeah . So it does kind of change your perspective a little bit , if I agree or I understand what they're talking about .
Speaker 1I imagine like the SpongeBob scene , when they're all running around , chaotic , but not like they're throwing everything out , but they're just like , okay , where do I file this one now ? Yep .
Speaker 2Yeah , exactly . So yeah , maybe I will . I don't know , because I am kind of curious , like what people would find wrong with this book
Final Thoughts and Star Ratings
Speaker 2. Well , would you read another book by this author ? Absolutely , a hundred percent . Absolutely 100 . Me too . If it's a five star , absolutely , I'm really . She has a lot of tissues . First , I'm I'm very curious to see like the vibe is of the other books , because I think this one is like one of our most popular so , but I know that at least my grandma has like a bunch of them her books on her kindle , like she loves reading it and like the different time periods and things .
Speaker 2So I would I'd be very curious to see .
Speaker 1I am curious to uh , some of my favorite authors I will say no names , or sometimes one hit wonders like I love a series but then everything else . I'm like I just cannot get into that . So I wonder if for me personally , if it would feel that way right ?
Speaker 2um , no , I agree , but if a book is five stars , then I definitely it's an immediate like . I'm going to try another book . So now , whether that other book is five stars is to be determined .
Speaker 1Yeah , we keep saying five stars . Should we actively say what did we rate this on our star rating ? What are your final thoughts on the book ? It's a prize . It's five stars , oh , it's five stars . Oh , my gosh , me too didn't see it coming .
Speaker 2If I could have given it six stars , I would have on good grades , but I can't . Oh , it was so phenomenal . No notes from me well , actually I can't say that because I did say sophie but in general , really , like for me , like this was a no notes book , like it was emotionally moving , it was complex , it was . It made me think the author did a fantastic job portraying like how women were the backbone throughout this war and like really getting you to think and put yourself in their shoes at that time period . It was just so well done .
Speaker 2The storytelling , like you said , the way that the flash forwards made you believe one thing to then make that story hit so hard at the end was just beautifully done yeah , this was a five stars through and through for me .
Speaker 1Not a second of this book let me down . Like not a second . It was all phenomenal . I'm not one for like news and politics , but it also just made me so aware that , like there are wars , various wars happening right now , and like how are those people feeling , like how lucky are we , how blessed are we , and so it's also really moved me to like , want to explore more , like and it's probably going to be even sad , I'm going to feel even sadder and worse diving into it but I would love to get more involved and help make a difference , in what way I can , in current political wars and stuff going on right now , just to help in healing of any way . I want to show compassion to them . So it has really moved me in a big way , as little historical fiction has made me want to get involved .
Speaker 2I think it's so easy for us to like write off historical fiction because it's like fiction , quote , unquote and so , or it's like such a further time period that it does almost add into the fiction of it , where it's like , even though it truly did happen , it's almost so far out of grasp for us in reality , which is kind of sad to say too , because you learn from history .
Speaker 1But um , that's a topic for another time three hours of tiktok .
Speaker 2It's like what is real , exactly well it's like , yeah , because we're stuck with , like technology is so much more advanced now that it almost puts you feeling like it's such a huge difference in time because they didn't have that , especially like certain parts of the world , like in france , like that in the not even friends in the uh countryside of france , like you know , facebook , tiktok , like , not even like it's so far removed from that , but really it wasn't that long ago for you to think about . And , yeah , no , absolutely , with everything that's been going on , it makes you really stop to think a little bit more about it , yeah , and it's sad .
Speaker 1It's sad but it wow , this is just .
Speaker 2It was a really good book , highly recommend if you're just listening to us ramble and have absolutely no idea what's going on . Go read this book First . Five stars of the podcast .
Speaker 1Yeah , go read it and if you send us a picture , maybe I will send you $1 to go towards a tissue fund .
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May Book Club
Speaker 2on to May's book .
Speaker 1Totally different . Vibe , bring on the dragons . It's fourth wing time .
Speaker 2I'm so excited to get back to a dragon book . I love dragons .
Speaker 1I'm so excited , you little dragon slayer you , I love them , I love them , I love them , I love them . I'm honestly very surprised that we have not read this book before . Right , that it's kind of taken us this long to read it .
Speaker 2If I'm being honest , it kind of intimidates me a little bit . Not because the book itself is intimidating , but because of all of the hype behind it . I agree , and so I'm really and even reading the back of the book , I'm kind of like I don't know , because I could see this . I want to believe that it's going to be a great book and live up to the hype , but I fear that it might be like a trying too hard to fit into what's popular kind of book , which is why everybody loves it , because that's what people are desperate for .
Speaker 2But obviously we're different we're different girlies . My found family but I want to give it a fair shot , and I'm going to give it a fair shot and I . It is one that's been on our list for a really long time and I'm excited to dive into it yeah , I really hope it's good .
Speaker 1I feel similarly . I felt almost like I just felt not like bandwagon-y , but almost like everybody who was reading it . I think I felt too cool for it . I was like I don't need to read . Fourth , like I've seen mixed reviews , like I don't need to .
Speaker 2But if you think about it from like a Sarah J Maas perspective too , like anybody new coming in to try to read those could feel the exact same way , whereas , like we know , on the opposite end , like no , it's worth it .
Speaker 1You have to read . I don't know what , why that happens in our minds of like like . It's not a competition of what , whether books could or not , but for some reason as soon as it becomes popular , it like adds almost a negative connotation . Yeah , and I don't know why . I'm excited for it and I hope it's really good .
Speaker 1I'm just holding on to the dragons because I love dragons and if you've somehow never heard of Fourth Wing before , I'm going to read the book description , so sorry if I mispronounce words . Fantasy words are hard sometimes they are . Anyway . So the book description for Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yaros .
Speaker 120-year-old Violet Surringale was supposed to enter the Scribe Quadrant , living a quiet life among books and history . Now the Commanding General , also known as her toughest talents mother , has ordered Violet to join the hundreds of candidates striving to become the elite of Navarre dragon riders . But when you're smaller than everyone else and your body is brittle , death is only a heartbeat away . Because dragons don't bond to fragile humans , they incinerate them . With fewer dragons willing to bond than cadets , most would kill Violet to better their own chances of success . The rest would kill her just for being her mother's daughter . Like Zayden Ryerson , the most powerful and ruthless wing leader in the rider's quadrant , she'll need every edge her wits can give her just to see the next sunrise .
Speaker 1Yet with every day that passes , the war outside grows more deadly . The kingdom's protective wards are failing and the death toll continues to rise Even worse . Violet begins to suspect leadership is hiding a terrible secret . Friends , enemies , lovers everyone at Bazgayeth War College has an agenda , because once you enter . There are only two ways out Graduate or die . What will happen next ? Yeah , it does sound intriguing . Yeah , I'm excited for it . I'll be curious .
Speaker 2One way or another , I'm going to have thoughts . If you've been listening this far , you know I have thoughts . I'll be curious to see what those thoughts entail .
Speaker 1Yeah , it'll be good , but so that is the future . Our next month's book club
Borrows & Returns
Speaker 1what about right now ? What are our borrows and returns ? Mikayla . Next month's book club what about right now ? What are our borrows and ?
Speaker 2returns . Michaela , do you want to get us started ? I'm going to be short and sweet here this time because I'm going to be real honest , life has been a little busy and we have not had time to prioritize reading . So as far as my returns , I have none other than the Nightingale , which we just reviewed , so I'm not going to review that again . 10 out of 10 . That's all I'm going to say For my borrows . I'm getting Back to Circe by Madeline Miller . I'm going to do my absolute best to try to finish this book before I start fourth wing . If timing doesn't allow it , then it might get put on the back burner until after fourth wing too , but we're going to try our absolute best . I'm really excited about this book . I want to give it the time and dedication and attention to read it and appreciate it for what it is and not just skim through it . But it is a shorter book , so I feel like I can do it , as long as I prioritize it over scrolling , tiktok and things like that then I should be able to .
Speaker 2And then I'm still reading Wild by Cheryl Strayed On audiobook . I listen to it on my commute . So sometimes you know life is life and things just trying to get through it slowly . It is a longer book but I am still reading it . I'm still enjoying it . After our hike that we just did not too long ago in sky valley , georgia , I definitely have a new appreciation for this book because , for our little like nature hike , just fun , like hot girl kind of hike .
Speaker 2Uh , trying to picture and imagine Cheryl hiking this like super hard trail , intense trail for like months on end . Oh my gosh , I couldn't even make it through two hours , darby , I can't . New appreciation , really enjoying the book . That's good . What about you I ?
Speaker 1want , I want to . I think I want to read that book too I highly recommend .
Speaker 1Yeah , I am in a very similar boat . I , uh , I am planning a gala right now and it's next weekend , and so I have been working at work and when I get home , life just happens . So so not too much time for reading this past month , but I have been living in Emily Henry land . I love that girl . Um , I finished book lovers and oh my gosh , it was so good . It made me like want to flirt so badly like justice . Yeah , let's pretend it's so hard when you're like I don't know , but man , it just had such good banter and like the main character was like oh , like , oh , it was so , so good , like I loved it . So that was a really great book .
Speaker 1And then right now I'm reading People we Meet on Vacation , also a great book . They're both of these I'm doing audio . So without audio books this past month , it would have just been the nightingale for me . That's all it was for me . So it's all good , yeah , but I love I've said this before but I love the voice actor who narrates the Emily Henry books . She is so good . People we Meet on Vacation is going really well too . I am very much enjoying it . I think Book Lovers is going to remain my favorite , but once I finish this one , then I'll be all caught up on Emily Henry's books , and she just had a new one come out . I think it's called Funny Story , so that one will probably be in my borrows soon enough .
Speaker 2Between , you and our other friend , samantha , who both love these . I really need to give her a shot . As soon as I have more time to commit to reading , I'm going to . It's on my list . I'm gonna give her . I'm gonna try it .
Speaker 1She's good , maybe for another book talk yeah , I want to finish the firebird trilogy because I just have one book left , so I might try and read that before fourth one they're pretty short and easy to get , yeah so that is potentially a borrow for me right now .
Speaker 2Yeah , we'll see . That's what we got going on .
Speaker 1We're still thinking at the library , yeah a little too lazy right now to pick up a book .
Speaker 2Well , no , you're not lazy , you're just .
Speaker 1You have a lot of better priorities Darby don't sell yourself short .
Speaker 2You are working hard , girlfriend .
Speaker 1Thanks , thanks , I am .
Speaker 2And you deserve a lazy day .
Speaker 1But it's okay , I'll get to dress up at the gala and I'll still be stressed , but in a dress , yay . Anywho , that was it for this month's book club episode . Make sure to let us know your thoughts on instagram . At lazy girl library . Let us know if you have any book suggestions in mind for any future um book talks that we talk about . Uh , and thanks so much for joining . Please leave us a review on anywhere your support .
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Speaker 1Do you know the vine ? Sorry , side track real quick before we end the vine of the little girl , that's like I want to be famous .
Speaker 2That's me right now , every time anyone says anything nice to me , I'm like I want to be famous .
Speaker 1I love it , I love it , and with that , we'll see you next time .
Speaker 2Bye , guys , bye .
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