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RHOSLC Brooks Is On A Plane and Everyone Must Suffer
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RHOSLC Brooks Is On A Plane and Everyone Must Suffer
RHOSLC Season 6 Episode 14 My Big Fat Greek Mother's Day
Mother’s Day in Greece kicks off with breakfast, bonding, and barely concealed tension as the women navigate Angie’s “Friendship Commandments” game—where red marks mean you’ve committed a social sin and prizes are on the line. While Heather declares it the best Mother’s Day ever thanks to being responsibility-free on a girls’ trip, Brittani opens up about the pain of having a complicated relationship with her kids, creating a rare moment of vulnerability. Meredith’s absence from breakfast quickly becomes the elephant in the room, with Heather openly (and perhaps unwisely) holding out hope that Meredith will finally take accountability—something no one seems confident will happen.
The group splits up for activities, with donkey rides for some and a Greek cooking class for others, but Meredith’s emotional spiral follows her wherever she goes. She vents to Mary about feeling mistreated, labels Heather and Whitney “mean girls,” and insists she’s exhausted and done being spoken about. Lisa repeatedly jumps in to defend Meredith, even as others suggest Meredith needs to speak for herself. Meredith’s frustration peaks when she can’t talk to Brooks while he’s on a plane, leading to tears, a dramatic walk-off, and confusion over whether her pain is really about her son—or unresolved issues with Whitney.
By the time moussaka is served, things finally inch toward resolution. Whitney acknowledges that her comments about alcohol and pills crossed a line and offers an apology, opening the door—slightly—to moving forward. The episode ends on a lighter note with a pool party, swim races, wild one-liners, and trademark chaos: Bronwynn embraces her flirtatious side, Brittani announces she trademarked “high body count,” Mary delivers another iconic deadpan zinger, and Meredith reemerges in a fabulous pool look that reminds everyone why they’ve been waiting for this version of her all season.
Takeaways
The episode opens with a light-hearted introduction to the hosts and the episode's theme.
Discussion of Mother's Day leads to reflections on friendship and the complexities of relationships among the cast.
Meredith's behavior is scrutinized, highlighting her tendency to play the victim in conflicts.
The group dynamics are explored, particularly how Meredith's actions affect her relationships with others.
The cooking class serves as a backdrop for personal revelations and tensions among the women.
Brittany's humorous spreadsheet of her romantic encounters sparks a conversation about relationships and self-worth.
Angie's comments about hair lead to a deeper discussion about self-image and the pressures of appearance in the group.
The episode concludes with a reflection on the absurdity of the drama and the importance of self-acceptance.
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Kelli (00:01.282)
Hi, welcome to We Wine Whenever, I'm Kelly.
Lori (00:03.705)
And I'm Lori.
Kelli (00:05.838)
Tonight we're gonna talk about Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, season six, episode 14, My Big Fat Greek Mother's Day. I love the title.
Lori (00:14.277)
I like that, I like that, I like it.
Kelli (00:17.462)
Before we get started with Salt Lake, I just want to congratulate the daughter of Real Housewives of New Jersey, Kathy Wacheeley. Her daughter, Victoria, had a baby. Everyone will remember, but you might not, Laura, because you didn't get to season three, four, and five of Real Housewives of New Jersey. She's the cousin that Teresa, Judice, Judiche, Rueles, whatever the fuck she's calling herself these days.
She called her cousin Cathy cancer. So, lovely, right? We should all have a cousin like Teresa, shouldn't we? Yeah. Yeah. So.
Lori (00:51.815)
Okay.
Lori (00:55.673)
Yes, most definitely. right. So cancer has had off cancers. Cancer has this offspring. OK.
Kelli (01:01.4)
Cancer has a new grandchild, so we wish them well. And in the pictures that were posted on Instagram is Dr. David, who is Dolores's ex-boyfriend. So he is a high-risk obstetrician. So he either, I would imagine he either delivered her baby or he works at the hospital where she delivered, and that's why he's in the picture, but he's wearing a t-shirt that says, Real Housewife of New Jersey's bitch.
Lori (01:16.815)
Okay.
Kelli (01:30.818)
which is pretty funny. Because he's Dolores' ex-boyfriend. He was in the show, like he was in the show a couple of seasons. Really funny. But congratulations to Victoria and her very handsome husband. I forget his name. But he's very handsome. So God bless. Hope everyone's doing well.
Lori (01:34.727)
boyfriend and that's funny.
Lori (01:40.231)
That's funny.
Lori (01:52.697)
Very good.
Kelli (01:54.166)
Yeah, so the season, the episode opens and it's Mother's Day. I think that would be a great Mother's Day trip.
Lori (02:02.196)
we'll get into that. We'll get into that when we talk about what Heather says about that. We'll get into that.
Kelli (02:08.374)
Yeah, I liked how they had the friendship commandments posted up and Angie and Heather can't figure out if the checks are a good thing or a bad thing and they basically need Bronwyn to come explain it to them. I like the idea of friendship commandments.
Lori (02:19.643)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Yes.
Lori (02:28.999)
I like that. Yeah, I like that. It's just odd, like, it's odd talking about these girls and friendship because like the two things just don't go together. Like we'll see. No, but like later on the episode, Lisa's like, you know, I'm going to be a good, I'm a good friend and I'm going to keep standing up for Meredith. Okay. So you are a really great friend when you were like saying that shit that you said about her.
Kelli (02:41.934)
Well, they're because they're not really friends.
Kelli (02:58.19)
Your hot mic moment. But that's why Lisa now has blind loyalty to Meredith. Because of that.
Lori (03:01.634)
Yeah.
Lori (03:08.293)
Yeah, either she's still trying to make up for that and or there's something Meredith knows. I'm thinking legal wise that Lisa doesn't want known. yeah, because there's just times when I'm like, I don't like there's, I don't know.
Kelli (03:29.804)
It's probably a combination of both. I'm sure Meredith knows where the bodies are buried, yeah. You know? And I also think that Lisa really regretted that Hot Mic moment. Like really regretted it.
Lori (03:41.393)
Probably. Well, who wouldn't if that's your job and that's how you're acting?
Kelli (03:45.768)
Yeah, exactly. And Bronwyn said that the person with the least amount of red marks is going to get a prize. I really am enjoying Bronwyn. I don't know if we brought this up, but she apparently has filed for divorce.
Lori (03:52.791)
It's so funny.
Lori (04:02.011)
Yeah, they're separated. Yeah, they're separated. Yeah, separated. Yeah, I didn't, I don't know whether I'm to say I'm surprised about that or not. It felt like a setup though, from the beginning. Like it felt like, I don't know, like she was trying to get her own income going or something, cause they don't have a prenup.
Kelli (04:03.734)
Yeah, or they're separated. Yeah, maybe she didn't file yet, but they're separated. I don't know if we've talked about that on the podcast, but...
Kelli (04:22.38)
Yeah.
Kelli (04:29.661)
they don't?
Lori (04:30.491)
They don't. I remember that from the beginning. That, yeah, that they don't have a prenup. I remember that from like the first or second episode.
Kelli (04:34.776)
that's interesting.
Kelli (04:42.574)
But she had some good career when they met, right? Like, yeah, so she had to come in with some money.
Lori (04:45.551)
she had a great career. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Lori (04:50.503)
maybe, who knows, but maybe, you know, that's always what it felt like to me, like, you're coming on the show, your husband's not digging it. So I was thinking, maybe you're trying to set yourself up something before you, you know.
Kelli (04:58.574)
Mm-hmm.
Kelli (05:05.802)
It does sound like he has been, there has been infidelity though on his part. Right? So like, you know, that, mean, to me, that alone is a reason to be like, yeah, I'm out. Especially if you're now on a show and you're getting some attention and it's like, you know, I don't fucking need you. I mean, I guess other than financially.
Lori (05:12.1)
yeah. yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Lori (05:21.339)
Yeah.
Lori (05:27.031)
Mm-hmm. Right. Right. And I would imagine for her, she seems to be the type that because of the situation with her parents, that she was always, I mean, even now still, always striving for not attention, but validation from somebody else.
Kelli (05:53.432)
validation. Yeah.
Lori (05:55.599)
And I feel like maybe now that she's on the show and maybe make her own dough again and just has like this platform where she can burn him publicly that she's probably now getting a little more confidence in herself to be like, you know what, I don't need you and you're cheating bullshit, but maybe she put up with it because she needed him and she need not only did she need him financially,
Kelli (06:06.445)
Right.
Kelli (06:17.176)
Exactly.
Lori (06:25.447)
take care of her, Gwen, but she needed him to validate her. And she needed to be a success at something because she saw herself as not a success. Even though she was a success and had a great career and raised a wonderful child, I don't think she ever saw herself as that.
Kelli (06:44.106)
No, I mean, it's obvious she needs validation from him and her mother, quite honestly. It's very obvious, yeah. So everyone shows up at breakfast. Heather says, best Mother's Day ever. I'm alone on a girls trip with no responsibilities.
Lori (06:57.094)
Yes.
I agree with that and I agree with that because, you know, and I've always said this, always forever and ever, the best Mother's Day gift would just be me in a hotel room. I could just be by myself. I'd be very happy. Because when you're a mom, you're a mom 365 days a year. So to get one day off to not be a mom is really the epitome of Mother's Day.
Kelli (07:21.326)
Yes.
Lori (07:29.703)
Other than wanting to be with my friends on like a girls trip, I would want to be with my mother. But that's not possible any longer. So that's just null and void. But you know, I've had people say to me, oh, like, that's weird. Like you wouldn't want to be with your kid. No, no. 364 of the other days. Right. Right. The other 364 days, I'm all yours.
Kelli (07:29.984)
Absolutely.
Kelli (07:46.082)
No, because if they're around, then I have responsibilities because I do everything for them.
Kelli (07:57.625)
Bye.
Lori (07:59.239)
On day 365, I'm good. I'm good. Yeah.
Kelli (08:01.442)
Yeah, I totally, totally agree with you. And you know how I am. I like to be home. I do like to vacation, but I also like to be home. And, you know, I like to be, I like to be with my family. I like to be with my husband and my kids, but I agree with you. think a lovely mother's day would be to be with girlfriends and responsibility free.
Lori (08:24.153)
yes. Yes, having fun and yes, absolutely. Caring for no one else except for yourself. Nothing wrong with that. I think it's healthy.
Kelli (08:33.9)
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Totally agree. Brittany is finding it hard to watch the other ladies because, you know, I guess they're talking about their kids or, you know, whatever. And she has such a difficult relationship with her kids at this point. And it was funny when they were talking about Meredith and how she came down and tried to make a cup of coffee. And Whitney was like,
Lori (08:59.784)
she was all pissy.
Kelli (09:01.63)
my God, Whitney's like, it's not working, something's jammed, but I'm working on getting it out. I think it was Whitney, maybe it was Angie, maybe it was Angie. But Meredith said nothing, the lips were zipped, and she walked right away.
Lori (09:07.749)
Yeah, Angie, Angie.
Lori (09:15.825)
So I'm thinking Merith is definitely one of those people who just does not function without coffee.
Kelli (09:22.338)
Yeah, no, clearly, yeah. And listen, I get it.
Lori (09:23.431)
It does not function without quality.
Kelli (09:28.78)
That first cup of coffee in the morning is my favorite time and I'll tell you why. Because right now I put cinnamon and honey in my coffee and oat milk and it's delicious and it's an anti-inflammatory and it makes my knees feel better. And I sit on the couch in the living room and I do my daily devotional and I say my prayers. It's literally like my favorite time of day. Nobody's around. They're either sleeping or have left already. It's my favorite time of day.
Lori (09:37.059)
There you go.
Lori (09:52.049)
There you go. Right. Yes.
Kelli (09:58.403)
that first cup of coffee. I can function without it, but I prefer not to. Yeah.
Lori (09:58.553)
Nice. That first cup of coffee. Nice.
Kelli (10:11.758)
Mary goes to find Meredith.
Lori (10:14.502)
Mm-hmm.
Kelli (10:16.25)
And then we find out from Angie that Angie, Lisa, Brahman, and Mary are going to ride donkeys, and Heather, Whitney, Brittany, and Meredith are going to a Greek cooking class.
Lori (10:31.856)
Nice.
Kelli (10:33.364)
It's very interesting that she put Meredith with Heather, Whitney, and Brittany. Like literally all the people she's not getting along with right now.
Lori (10:41.495)
Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Kelli (10:45.614)
you know, Meredith tells Mary that she's very overtired. She's tired of being treated like a piece of dirt on the ground. And then she calls Heather and Whitney mean girls.
Kelli (11:02.73)
I don't know. Do you think that I don't think they're acting like mean girls.
Lori (11:03.597)
I don't know either.
No, I just think that Meredith wants it to go away because Meredith wants it to go away. But, you know, at some point is Heather harping on it incessantly? Yes. Is it a show where that's your job? Yes. But on the other hand, just because you want your bad behavior to go away, Meredith, doesn't mean that it's just poof, it goes away.
Kelli (11:14.818)
right.
Kelli (11:22.924)
Yes, she sure is.
Lori (11:39.002)
I mean...
You gas lit her. You gas lit Heather. And like I said before, I think that for Heather, it's a huge trigger from her past and her husband and maybe her family and people within Mormonism. And she's not fucking having it. And should she let it go and just move on? Yeah, I'm sure she should. But sometimes there's some shit that just gets you.
Kelli (11:54.541)
Yeah.
Kelli (11:58.873)
Mm-hmm.
Lori (12:11.473)
that just jacks you up and gets you the wrong way.
Kelli (12:14.828)
Yeah. Yeah. No, I totally agree.
Lori (12:17.723)
So, but now trying to act like this is the problem that I have. You obviously went above and beyond in your venting to Lisa.
Obviously. But now you want to turn it around and make yourself the victim because you're being called out on it.
Kelli (12:44.684)
Right. No, that, but that's, that's, that's Meredith's M.O. and it has been since the beginning. Like she'll never take any account accountability. And then all of a sudden she's the victim and everybody else are mean girls and they're being mean to her and they're lying about her and they're like, that's been Meredith's M.O. since the beginning of Salt Lake City.
Lori (12:46.025)
Where are you going with that?
Lori (12:52.465)
Mm-hmm.
Lori (13:07.269)
Mm-hmm.
Kelli (13:08.364)
I mean, don't think if, listen, if there's a listener out there who disagrees with that, please let me know, because I don't think anybody who watches this show could see any other side to Meredith.
Lori (13:19.403)
no, there's people that I watch on YouTube that see it totally different.
Kelli (13:24.566)
a totally different Meredith. Isn't it interesting?
Lori (13:26.209)
totally. Isn't it wild? Yeah. That they think that Heather and Whitney are totally bullying her and, you know, targeting her and Lisa.
Kelli (13:33.807)
think they're bullying her. But I do think that when Heather and Whitney get together, they do too much. I do agree with that. But in this case, mean, Meredith was obviously wrong. Like, six people are saying the same thing. However, I will say this again. I don't know why not a damn one of them stood up on that plane and said, Meredith, enough. Enough.
Lori (13:43.208)
yeah. Yeah.
Lori (13:57.967)
and said, knock it off. Right. Or like I said, Whitney changed seats with me.
Kelli (14:05.43)
Right, exactly, exactly.
Lori (14:06.641)
So who knows? But you know what? It's all a show for bullshit anyway. So whatever.
Kelli (14:09.812)
Exactly, exactly. So Meredith says she's not feeling very positive about her crew. And then I guess they're on the Sprinter van going to their destinations.
Lori (14:17.901)
Ugh.
Lori (14:24.421)
Mm-hmm.
Kelli (14:29.482)
She, Meredith says it's the plane. She's not supposed to talk and says it's because she is educated. So Heather says she's also educated.
Lori (14:37.799)
She's too, yeah, she said, I'm not supposed to speak and then when I do speak, I'm too educated and I speak too eloquently. And I was like, oh my God, shut the fuck
Kelli (14:54.71)
It's outrageous.
Lori (14:56.484)
my gosh, it's just, it's like-
Kelli (14:58.422)
And then her son Brooks calls her and, she was in the middle of, she was kind of in the middle of something with Heather, right? When he called and she picks up the phone, which listen, if it's really what it was and you know, you're in Greece and he's getting on a plane and you don't know when you're going to just, don't just pick up the phone and say, Heather, this is important to me, but I really don't want to miss this call from Brooks.
Lori (15:07.557)
with Heather. Right. Right.
Lori (15:28.251)
Yeah, it would have been fine. It would have been fine.
Kelli (15:28.61)
Had she said that, I think that it would have been different. Yeah. But she's so passive aggressive, then she says to Brooks, I'm getting yelled at to hang up the phone on Mother's Day.
Lori (15:39.943)
Just that she was being very, very, very melodramatic. I was just like, oh girl, you're just, you're getting on my last nerve now. You're just being way, way, way too dramatic. Like over the top dramatic. I was like, oh my God, you need to stop right now. And it, you know, and later on in the episode, she's acting like she didn't get to talk to him. You fucking talk to him? What, so.
Kelli (15:45.016)
very.
Kelli (15:53.186)
Yes.
Lori (16:05.911)
So what was the difference between you hanging up then and you hanging up five minutes later into that phone call? so, okay, so are you trying to tell me that you would have extended your phone conversation for like the next 10, 15 minutes that you would have sat there and talked to your kid in a van full of other people? Get the fuck out of here. You weren't doing that. You were talking, maybe you would have stayed on the phone with that kid for like five more minutes. Stop, stop.
Kelli (16:30.69)
Right, right.
Kelli (16:35.404)
It's crazy.
Lori (16:37.037)
I want to be with my family. Well, what'd you come for then?
Kelli (16:39.298)
Yeah. And everybody else is like, we're happy without our families.
Lori (16:43.289)
Yeah, they're like, yeah, it's fine.
Kelli (16:47.726)
So then Heather gives another whole speech and explains and goes into it again. And Meredith does wind up saying, I'm sorry, right?
Lori (17:00.101)
Yeah, but I feel like she just said it so Heather would shut the fuck up.
Kelli (17:03.224)
She did say it so Heather would shut the fuck up and quite honestly at this point I fucking appreciate that because I want Heather to shut the fuck up at this point. Like it's enough with the dissertations Heather.
Lori (17:09.807)
Right, absolutely, yeah. Because she's never gonna get what she's looking for from Meredith. She's never gonna get it.
Kelli (17:17.056)
Honestly, it's really not about Heather like Lisa says let's talk about the real issue. Meredith is hurt by Whitney and then and then Whitney and Heather tell Lisa to stop talking for Meredith But Meredith isn't talking and Lisa's actually saying why Meredith is upset with Whitney So instead of receiving it Whitney's like I need to hear it. I need to hear it from Meredith But Meredith isn't saying anything
Lori (17:38.886)
Right.
Kelli (17:46.072)
So just take what Lisa's saying and go from there.
Lori (17:48.039)
Cause Lisa was on point about it.
Kelli (17:51.695)
for sure and she's at the point where she's like my god let's just fucking get over it already
Lori (17:56.591)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
But you know, it was true what Heather did say in the Sprinter Band. So she said, Heather said, I'm in trouble for you being not okay.
Lori (18:14.309)
Which is true. Yeah, Heather was saying like, you were the one who acted fucked up. I told you I saw you acting fucked up. But then you told me, no, I'm fucked up because that didn't happen.
Kelli (18:14.85)
Meredith. Right.
Lori (18:29.754)
So like.
Kelli (18:31.768)
Well, it's like what Whitney said last episode, like we're all fighting because of Meredith's bad behavior. And it's really just because she won't fucking admit what happened. She just won't admit what happened. Yet everyone else is on the same page. And we've said it before, when Mary says it, it's like, all right, I'm sorry. Mary's not gonna lie about this. You can say what you want about her, but she's not gonna lie about this.
Lori (18:38.49)
Absolutely.
Lori (18:43.291)
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Lori (18:53.519)
Right. Okay. Yeah.
Lori (18:58.767)
Right. Right. I loved when they got dropped off for the cooking class and Angie was like, have fun with your baklava.
Kelli (19:10.991)
And Meredith just walks away. Like, where are you going? She just starts walking. You don't know where you are.
Lori (19:16.623)
And what you wear them fucking heels for with those cobblestones? What are you doing?
Kelli (19:20.302)
It's so funny because, you know, I dated somebody for a long time. We were engaged to be married. And when we broke up, like I had just turned 21. Like that's when I started going to the Clarebs and I had the best fucking time for four years before I started dating Eric. But one outfit that I used to wear to the Clareb that really stands out that I remember was I had this denim mini skirt.
and like a white tank and I would wear it with heels. As soon as I saw her I was like, my God, that looks like me circa 1990.
Lori (19:51.452)
He'll see ya.
Lori (19:55.333)
It's me!
Kelli (20:02.766)
96, 95, 96, yeah. Going to Jenks, going to Seaside, that was my outfit, that was my go-to.
Lori (20:06.79)
Yep, yep, yep.
love it. It's you go to. I love it. It's so funny.
Kelli (20:13.422)
It brought me right back.
Lori (20:15.985)
That's so cute.
Kelli (20:17.59)
I thought Giovanni was very cute, especially when he said he's half Italian and half Greek. He's kind of like a Greek salad. That was adorbs.
Lori (20:23.719)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Kelli (20:28.43)
You watched it on Peacock, right? So I had to watch it last night because I had to work today. So I watched it on demand. you may have like if I if there's something you might have seen something I didn't see because I find that a lot when you watch it on Peacock you get more.
Lori (20:43.877)
Right, You do see, yeah, you do see more. Yeah, yeah. But when Lisa said in her confessional, it's hard not to look cute standing next to an ass.
Kelli (20:49.622)
Yeah, I just didn't have the time.
Kelli (20:58.286)
That was funny.
Lori (21:00.679)
funny. But then then Meredith finally shows up at the cooking class and oh my god she's just so she's being way over the top dramatic way way over the top with that with the with the hair and the voice and oh it's just like oh okay okay stop
Kelli (21:02.594)
That was funny.
Kelli (21:12.64)
I mean, talking about the phone call still, crying. Yeah, I mean, and Giovanni's like, can I help you? I think Giovanni was a little bit of a player and he was.
Lori (21:26.964)
way a player, way, way, way a player. Way a player. yes.
Kelli (21:30.606)
Can I help you?
Kelli (21:35.232)
And you know, Meredith starts to cry. So, Brittany says, well, I didn't talk to my kids for three years. Because Meredith is like...
Lori (21:43.973)
What is wrong with her? There is really, there's a missing chromosome something there because who says that? Like who, what were you, what?
Kelli (21:47.542)
I thought it was really funny though.
for sure!
Kelli (21:58.787)
Yet she wasn't giving Meredith any grace for that phone call with Brooks.
Lori (22:02.769)
But what were you even thinking, saying that about yourself? Like, just remind us that you're an asshole.
Kelli (22:07.604)
It's so funny. Exactly. Yeah, because it's not like it was their fault. It was your fault. You didn't talk to them for three years for crying out loud.
Lori (22:12.091)
Like what?
Lori (22:17.115)
I was just like, what?
Kelli (22:19.79)
You
Lori (22:23.345)
Fucking stupid shit.
Kelli (22:25.112)
mean, he's not gonna be on a plane forever for crying out loud, Meredith. You're gonna be able to talk to Brooks again, I'm very sure.
Lori (22:32.123)
Yeah, and it's not like he's five in your way. Stop.
Kelli (22:37.312)
Right, right, he's a grown ass adult. He probably wasn't even on the friggin' phone.
Lori (22:42.737)
Yeah, right.
Kelli (22:44.386)
The other ladies tell Lisa she might have to back off and let Meredith speak for herself and Lisa says she's a real loyal friend and she will never stop defending Meredith.
Lori (22:53.831)
Why? Why, Lisa?
Kelli (22:56.835)
I think we both hit the nail on the head in the beginning of the episode.
Lori (22:59.205)
Why? And I'm wondering if, I'm wondering if Meredith probably really wanted to go back to the villa and I'm wondering if production said, you know what girl, put your ass in a fucking cab and get back there and get your paycheck because this is what we're doing.
Kelli (23:16.354)
Probably because again Meredith's MO from the beginning of Salt Lake City is to leave To shut down and leave she doesn't finish scenes. She exactly she doesn't finish scenes. She can't handle She walks away because she can't handle it like Tamara Tamara on OC does that and Teresa on New Jersey? They can't handle it. They're not smart enough to handle the situation. So they have to leave
Lori (23:23.964)
Yeah.
You can leave to yourself.
Lori (23:38.983)
Right.
Lori (23:43.175)
Right. So I'm wondering if production was like, you know what, I think you better like back it up and go to work and stop your shit.
Kelli (23:51.385)
Yep. Right. Earn your paycheck. We've already protected you from the plane ride. Because we could blow your shit up right now. Now get back there.
Lori (23:53.776)
earn your paycheck.
Lori (23:58.032)
Right. Right. But now, now you need to get to work.
Kelli (24:03.756)
Right. Mary does say she thinks something's off with Merida.
Lori (24:08.432)
Mm-hmm.
Kelli (24:09.996)
So they make moussaka, which I love. Yeah, egg, you had me at eggplant. And again, Meredith said, the other ladies show up and again, Meredith says she was upset because she couldn't speak to her son. And Lisa says, and she did, right. And Lisa says, I don't think that's what it's about. She thinks it's about what's going on with her friendships in the group, obviously.
Lori (24:12.079)
Yum, yum, yum.
Lori (24:16.987)
Mm-hmm.
Lori (24:27.035)
But you did. But you did.
Lori (24:34.812)
Mm-hmm.
Lori (24:38.687)
huh.
Kelli (24:42.126)
And again, Lisa says we need to go back to ground zero because Whitney feels one way and Meredith feels another. And listen, I'm glad Whitney did this. She acknowledges that what she said about alcohol and pill popping wasn't appropriate and she apologized. She did owe her an apology for that.
Lori (25:01.548)
most definitely, most definitely.
Kelli (25:03.168)
I mean, chances are it's not, right, it's not far from the truth, but just to make those statements about someone on national television.
Lori (25:06.491)
the truth, right. Right.
Lori (25:16.047)
Right. I think she just got pissed and got in the moment and just like let it fly. Right. But she does tend to make those statements. Mary's church is a cult. You know, like she just...
Kelli (25:19.842)
Yeah.
Kelli (25:28.29)
Whitney.
Kelli (25:32.046)
Yeah, but does she not sound like a little girl when she talks? She sounds like a little girl.
Lori (25:35.655)
She does sound like, she does have a very infantile way about her. She does have a very.
Kelli (25:41.132)
Yeah, her voice is like so... It's like a little girl's talking.
Lori (25:45.991)
Well, that's why Mary calls her little girl. Do you remember? Yeah.
Kelli (25:48.596)
Yeah, I'm with you Mary Cosby.
I don't know what they were talking about a 10-1-2.
Lori (25:57.135)
You know what? I don't want to know what they're like. I don't need to know anybody's. I don't need to know about anybody's sex life. I don't need to know about anybody's bathroom bullshit. I don't need to know. I don't want to know. I don't want to know if you pissed or shit. I don't want to know.
Kelli (26:04.802)
Right.
Kelli (26:09.346)
rituals.
Kelli (26:15.37)
I totally agree with you. I'm all set.
Lori (26:16.935)
Like this was it was useless drivel. It was a waste of my I mean it's all a waste of my time but that was really a waste of my time. It's just like what am I watching here?
Kelli (26:27.062)
I totally agree with you. Right. Right.
then they go back to the Villa, which by the way is beautiful, isn't it?
Lori (26:36.292)
Absolutely beautiful.
Kelli (26:38.478)
they're gonna have a pool party and I loved when, I'm normally the one yawning, I loved when Meredith came outside and Heather was like, Meredith I think you mixed up the invitations, this is the pool party not a business meeting.
Lori (26:40.353)
Sorry
Lori (26:43.857)
Mm-hmm.
Lori (26:50.385)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Kelli (26:55.798)
Heather does have some good one-liners.
Lori (26:57.873)
yeah, she does come out with some stuff. How about Lisa when she's, when they were doing the tequila, Lisa's like, I only drink my own. Yeah.
Kelli (27:06.316)
Yeah, right. But I don't even think it's a real tequila. I'm going to Google it right now. What's it called? Vida tequila?
Lori (27:12.849)
Vida.
Lori (27:17.211)
How about when Angie changes into Meredith's cover up? That's so funny.
Kelli (27:20.824)
That was so good. Vita tequila. It's a thing. It's a thing.
Lori (27:29.883)
But you know, listen, for somebody who was so upset, Meredith ended up being pretty fucking happy.
Kelli (27:36.654)
Well, she did, she pivoted. She really did pivot. Ooh, 60 bucks.
Lori (27:38.897)
she pivoted. And how about when she was... How about when she was asleep on the Sprinter van?
Kelli (27:49.089)
Well, this is what I'm saying. She's always sleeping. Her eyes are always closed and her and she's always learning her words. Yes, exactly. So, you know, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck.
Lori (27:52.121)
I know it's a little... a little slur, I'm sorry.
Lori (28:03.107)
It's a duck. Listen, this is the thing. If it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck, don't be offended and don't be surprised when people assume that you are a duck. This covers many subjects, but that's the truth.
Kelli (28:04.396)
Yeah.
Kelli (28:16.919)
Right.
Kelli (28:23.096)
Right, right. You know what I was thinking? I would have kicked their asses in that swimming race.
Lori (28:30.648)
Kelly, you're so funny. I knew you were going to say that. I knew it. was like, God, Kelly's going to be like, I'm going to beat them.
Kelli (28:35.352)
knew it.
Kelli (28:40.686)
And Bronwyn says this is the Meredith we were waiting for. I agree. She was pleasant. She was having a good time. She was engaged. She was not disengaging.
Lori (28:41.519)
So funny.
Lori (28:46.393)
Mm-hmm. She was fine. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Kelli (28:54.606)
I did think it was funny. So Meredith then gets flowers from her kids, which was very nice. And Lisa says, I never want flowers. Now, exactly. Yeah, right. So I agree with the, never want flowers. And my husband knows this. don't want, once in a while he still brings me flowers, but there was a florist in Brick. Everybody knows him. May he rest in peace, Alan florist.
Lori (29:03.257)
I only want stuff. Okay.
Kelli (29:22.572)
And that's where my husband used to go get me flowers. Alan put so much glitter on the flowers that there was more glitter than flowers. So when Eric would bring me flowers, my whole house would be filled with glitter. looked like a strip club. And I hate glitter. I hate all that shit. So I, at one point was like enough with the flowers. That's enough. So I do agree with Lisa. However, I would not announce that after my friend
Lori (29:44.293)
No more flowers, right.
Kelli (29:52.14)
was just delivered flowers from her children.
Lori (29:55.425)
I would not announce that even if that's what I really thought I would keep that that's like Brittany announcing that she didn't talk to her kids for three years like what why would you say something so vapid and and shallow like why would you if that's how you really feel fine but don't don't be dumb enough to say it
Kelli (30:05.261)
Right.
Kelli (30:18.478)
Listen, you're talking about being such a loyal friend to Meredith. She's having a moment where she got flowers from her kids. She's so happy. You think you got to go and say that?
Lori (30:26.501)
Right, and then you're gonna demean it because it should have been a Prada bag? I can't, I can't with her.
Kelli (30:31.502)
Exactly.
Lori (30:36.975)
And then we go on to talk about, they were talking about Electra and then they were talking about when they were in high school and how Heather got one of the really hot guys and how they used to sneak in mini skirts to change into. And then they started talking about first kisses and Bronwyn says that she kissed several girls. So, interesting.
Kelli (31:05.998)
That was interesting.
Lori (31:07.015)
But it kind of, you know, ties into her handing out rainbow flags. Kind of a deal. Yeah, you know. So.
Kelli (31:16.516)
for sure.
and wanting to open up the conversation with Todd to explore, you know, possibly bringing someone else into the relationship. It does all tie in.
Lori (31:27.053)
Mm-hmm. Okay, so this this was crazy with Britney
She's kissed 367 boys and she's been keeping track since college with a spreadsheet.
Kelli (31:44.524)
And Mary says, that's how many members are in my church.
Lori (31:50.063)
Meanwhile, I feel like Mary's meanwhile, feel like Mary's probably kissed like five guys max. And she, yeah. And she, and she's right. Probably looking at Brittany like, I know Mary's looking at Brittany and thinking about the germs in Brittany's mouth. know.
Kelli (31:50.852)
Who counts the guys they've kissed?
Kelli (31:56.353)
Right, right, Max, because she's been with Robert Senior since...
Kelli (32:03.297)
Yeah.
Kelli (32:07.776)
for sure. For sure.
Lori (32:13.799)
Yeah.
Kelli (32:15.278)
Yeah, that conversation took a left and then Meredith says when her mom was out of town one time they had a crazy party and they broke a dish and got in trouble and everybody was like, okay I just thought of Risky business with the egg
Lori (32:27.246)
Okay...
Lori (32:31.247)
Wild girl, Meredith.
huh, huh.
So towards the end of this episode, Angie's real bitchy.
Kelli (32:38.572)
Yeah.
Kelli (32:45.666)
Great.
Lori (32:46.215)
Like real bitchy. And I think so they're in this Sprinter van and they're going to a bar. Mary's like me. She'd been like at this age, I would have been like, you know, I'm just going to bed. So she doesn't go. But the other girls go and then I don't know how they get on the conversation of high body count hair. And Brittany lets it out that she trademarked that. And I think Angie got really pissed that she I don't
Kelli (33:00.365)
Yeah.
Lori (33:15.525)
I think she was pissed because she didn't think of it first. But she was nasty. And I'm usually a big Angie fan, but she was really- she was not nice at all. Not at all.
Kelli (33:18.222)
100%.
Kelli (33:26.784)
No, I totally agree. She got super, super insulting. And honestly, I had heard high body count prior to Angie. I never heard high body count hair, but I knew what high body count was. I really knew it because of Vinny Guadagnino from Jersey Shore listening to his podcast. But I had heard high body count before, just not high body count hair. But I totally agree with you. I think Angie was just pissed.
Lori (33:37.799)
Mm-hmm.
Kelli (33:56.078)
because she didn't think of it first.
Lori (33:58.223)
And really, who fucking cares?
Kelli (34:01.199)
Exactly. So, so what is she gonna do? She's gonna sell a couple of t-shirts? Okay. You own ten fucking salons. That's not enough for you? You can't throw this chick a bone?
Lori (34:03.141)
Like, who cares?
Yeah, what's she gonna do with it?
Lori (34:14.757)
Right, I mean, you've got a husband who loves you, you have a daughter, you have parents, you know you have your father, like you're successful, like she's a train wreck. So like, what do you, I didn't get it, I just didn't get it.
Kelli (34:22.742)
Yeah.
Kelli (34:27.363)
Yeah!
Kelli (34:31.212)
No, I couldn't agree with you more. And she did get extre- yes.
Lori (34:33.113)
and telling her that her hair's too long for her age. And you know, she did cut it, you see, in the...
Kelli (34:42.574)
The reunion?
Lori (34:42.887)
in knowing the after show. She did cut it. It's like here now, Britney. I would have never cut it after Angie said that. I would have grown that bitch down past my ass.
Kelli (34:47.052)
really?
Kelli (34:51.834)
no, and Lisa's hair is even longer than Britney's. Lisa's got like, like, share hair, doesn't she? Like, it's pretty long.
Lori (34:55.463)
Mm-hmm.
Lori (35:00.145)
But I thought it was really funny that Brittany said, like, I don't know what your obsession is with my hair. Like, I don't know if it's a problem for you because you just, your hair can't hold a curl.
Which actually, and truth be known, I'd rather have Britney's hair than Angie's hair. Because Angie's hair is pin, pin, pin straight. And pin straight is nice, but with pin straight, you get pin straight, and that's it. Your hair is really not gonna hold the curl. Like you can't go curly and straight. You can't do loose weight. Like you're just straight.
Kelli (35:40.303)
Well, but here's the thing. Angie's hair looks extremely healthy, right? Brittany's looks over-processed. Angie is a hairdresser and whose husband is also a hairdresser. She's using top of the line products, Kerastase, we know this, which by the way, I got some of that for tests for Christmas. Not cheap, but anyway. And she knows how to do it.
Lori (35:44.41)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Lori (35:53.602)
Your hair better look good.
Kelli (36:08.974)
I'm sure she's only washing her hair once or twice a week. I'm sure she's doing conditioning treatments. Brittany isn't doing that. It's not her career. It's not, she's not in the industry. Your hair better fucking look good, Angie. You're selling a service. You're selling your service, your company, your business. Brittany's in a cabaret show.
Lori (36:08.997)
Right.
Lori (36:19.023)
Right. Right, right, better.
Lori (36:26.127)
And not only that...
Not only that, you have somebody that you are working with in the public eye. You should be hooking the sister up. Her hair should be looking on point and you should be saying, lovely Britney's hair looks since I've been working on it. That's what you should be doing. Not like, acting like you're 10.
Kelli (36:40.462)
Right.
Kelli (36:44.279)
I did that.
Kelli (36:48.364)
Yep. Absolutely.
Right. She was very, very insulting. And I agree with you. I do like Angie, but I was not not on board with this, Angie. No.
Lori (36:59.271)
No, I didn't like that at all. I was like, no, no, no, no, no. So.
Kelli (37:08.982)
Yeah, so that's how we end it. mean...
Lori (37:12.359)
And it was funny how Brittany said I was smart enough to do it first. And she is right. That's exactly it. But I will say this for Brittany. You know, she does bounce back.
Kelli (37:16.873)
Exactly, she's right, she's not wrong.
Kelli (37:25.282)
Listen, she's so unbothered by these women. She's just so damn glad to be there. And she does, she's just unbothered and they can do and say whatever they want. She's just not, you know, it is what it is. And God bless her for it. Listen, I was not a Britney fan and I was annoyed she was coming back. And I still have my moments, but this I like. I like when she's so unbothered by them.
Lori (37:27.276)
She does bounce back. Mm-hmm. Yep.
Yes. Yeah. I do. I do appreciate that about her. She does bounce back.
Lori (37:49.659)
Yeah, because I mean really, what's the I don't I don't get what the big deal was. I didn't I didn't get it.
Kelli (37:57.877)
No, and like I said, what's she gonna do? Sell a couple of t-shirts, sweatshirts, Like Summer House, Lindsay Hubbard said, don't activate me. And then she started like a whole line. She probably trademarked the word activated and she did hats, hashtag activated and t-shirt. I mean, she didn't become a millionaire off of it.
Lori (38:16.135)
Right, where you going?
No.
Kelli (38:20.748)
Let her have high body count hair.
Lori (38:24.133)
Right. Whatever.
Lori (38:28.871)
I don't know if you insult somebody and they want they want to make something off of the insult. Yeah, yeah, whatever. Yeah, well, I know what you meant.
Kelli (38:37.08)
Free game. Fair game.
free game.
Maybe I should have had a glass of wine too.
Lori (38:45.495)
Yep, I should have had a whole bottle with it.
Kelli (38:47.534)
By the way, I watched clips from our Beverly Hills episode. I don't know why my, did have my Christmas party that night. I did have a couple of glasses of wine, but I was totally fine. My eyes are like closed in the video. I'm like, why are my eyes like that? I was totally fine, but.
Lori (39:00.679)
I never even noticed.
Lori (39:07.899)
Did you have on light eyeshadow? Sometimes that will do it. Sometimes a light eyeshadow will make it look like that. You wouldn't think that it would, like you think it would be the opposite, but sometimes.
Kelli (39:11.565)
Yeah.
Kelli (39:15.594)
I only wear light eyeshadow.
Kelli (39:20.163)
Yeah.
Kelli (39:24.206)
And I also had my contacts in and I swear now since I've turned 50, I've worn contacts since my early 20s. Now that I'm in my 50s though, I've noticed, first of all, I wear my contacts, I have to wear readers. If I have my contacts in at work, I have to wear readers to see my computer screen. And I talked to the eye doctor and he was like, just keep doing that, because otherwise you have to get progressives and it's a pain in the ass. So.
Lori (39:41.755)
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Kelli (39:50.463)
I have to take my contacts out when I get home from work and put my glasses on because my eyes just can't tolerate my contacts for that long anymore and because that day was my Christmas party, I had been wearing my contacts longer than I typically would.
Lori (40:02.191)
Right, you had to mind your own business. So your eyeballs were like, get this out of my eye.
Kelli (40:08.162)
Get these fucking things out. Yes. Exactly. Exactly. Well, now you know the history of my eyes, everyone.
Lori (40:12.935)
All right, so we'll see what madness. Yeah. Yeah. So we'll see what madness and mayhem happens next episode.
Kelli (40:19.662)
Next week. Yep, please like subscribe share Give us five star reviews Comment yeah, please engage because we we like, you know, we try to respond as much as possible. We always like the comments
Lori (40:29.605)
Yeah, comment. We like it.
Lori (40:39.279)
Yeah, that's the first thing I do every morning is look at her comments. I refrain from typing back, fuck off. And you know, a of times I think,
Kelli (40:42.402)
Yeah, me too.
Kelli (40:48.142)
Not that we would. We haven't had too many old hags comments lately.
Lori (40:53.959)
Yeah, the old hag comments have calmed down. But then I try and think to myself, well, maybe someone's just having a bad day. But this is the thing. If I'm online and I see something I don't like, I just go past it. Like, would never waste my own time commenting about something that I didn't like. Like, I'll stop and comment if there's something I really like or congratulate somebody or...
Kelli (40:57.516)
Yeah, so we appreciate that.
Kelli (41:19.138)
Right. Right.
Lori (41:22.305)
or make a little comment about, but I don't know, I just find that very odd. That's an odd behavior.
Kelli (41:29.336)
I used to comment a lot more about Teresa on New Jersey, because I literally loathe this person, which is silly because I don't even know her, but I've seen enough. But I've stopped. I've stopped.
Lori (41:34.801)
can't help yourself.
Lori (41:41.543)
Well, you loathe the character that she has portrayed herself to be.
Kelli (41:48.428)
Yeah, but come on, that's really, that's gotta be really her. I mean, I don't know. But with that said, I don't anymore. I don't comment.
Lori (41:52.229)
It really doesn't matter. But it doesn't really matter. Because that's what you're presenting yourself to be. So whether that's really you or not.
Kelli (41:58.573)
Well.
Kelli (42:03.99)
Right. Right. That's who you want people to think you are.
Lori (42:08.071)
So there you go. Like I said, you walk like a duck, you talk like a duck. Don't be pissed when people say you're a duck. You know, you act like an asshole and then people are going to say, she's an asshole. It's not, you know, rocket science. Yes.
Kelli (42:12.95)
Right. Right. Right.
Kelli (42:23.244)
very clear. It's very clear to us. Right. It is not rocket science. All right. Bye.
Lori (42:27.973)
Alright, so, bye!
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