Beyond the Walls with Jeremy Thomas
Jeremy approaches Bible teaching with a passion for getting the basic doctrines explained so that the individual can understand them and then apply them to circumstances in their life. These basic and important lessons are nestled in a framework of history and progression of revelation from the Bible so the whole of Scripture can be applied to your physical and spiritual life.
Beyond the Walls with Jeremy Thomas
NT Framework - Does Jesus understand Science?
Many modern theologians and Christians believe tha Jesus doesn't understand biology or astronomy because HE got such obvious things such as gender wrong. What?
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Jeremy Thomas is the pastor at Spokane Bible Church in Spokane, Washington and a professor at Chafer Theological Seminary. He has been teaching the Bible for over 20 years, always seeking to present its truths in a clear and understandable manner.
Welcome to Beyond the Walls with Jeremy Thomas and our series on the New Testament Framework. Today a smaller, bite-sized piece from the larger lesson. We hope you enjoy it.
Speaker 2:Another issue, very, very modern issue Gender, marriage and the universe. Did you know you could put those three words together in the same sentence? Gender marriage, yes, but the universe. Mark 10, 5 through 8. Let's go to Mark 10. What I'm trying to show you is because you may be asking yourself why are you bringing up these texts? I'm trying to show you that texts that deal with very what we might call issues of faith and morals, like marriage and gender, are tied up with scientific evidence. What we might call issues of faith and morals, like marriage and gender, are tied up with scientific texts or texts that touch on scientific issues that relate to the universe. And by showing you that, it shows you that it becomes.
Speaker 2:It's very difficult to say, yes, jesus was always right when he spoke to faith and morals, but he made technical errors over here when it dealt with issues of history or science. They're tied together in the Bible. So Mark 10, 5 through 8, and this is a quote from Genesis 1 and Genesis 2. So one of the passages he quotes is Genesis 1, 127, and the other is Genesis 24. So let's see what he said. They're asking a question about divorce, right? May a man you know permit, or would God permit a man to divorce his wife for any reason? So in verse 5, jesus said to them because of your hardness of heart, he wrote you this commandment. That's, moses wrote a commandment, verse 6. But from the beginning of creation, god made them what male and female? That's from genesis 127. And then he says for this reason, a man shall leave his father and his mother, and the two shall become one flesh. Say so, they shall no longer be two, but one flesh. What, therefore, god has joined together? Let no man separate which verse 7 and 8 there is from Genesis 2.24. Here's the question Did Jesus not know that there is no such thing as male and female, but gender is fluid? Well, he was just a man of his time. He didn't realize that gender is a choice that you make. In fact, that choice can change just as night follows day, because gender is fluid. Poor Jesus. And you know, the worst thing about it is, jesus built this whole doctrine of marriage and divorce on it. Oops, but that's just a blunder. Jesus just made a mistake. He was a man of his time. Well, evidently Jesus believed in cis or binary genders, didn't he? But they say well, that was just an error. Another one age of the human race.
Speaker 2:Let's go to Matthew 23, 35. Matthew 23, 35. Matthew 23, 35. This is a quote from Genesis 4. So I did one from Genesis 1 and then a 2, and now we're jumping 3 over to 4. We could do something from 3, but we don't have time to do everything.
Speaker 2:Matthew 23, 35, where it says Jesus says so, that upon you, that's, the Jews of that generation that he came to, first century Jewish people upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Barakai, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. All these things, I say, will come upon this generation. Now it's interesting Two people are mentioned as being murdered here, right, abel and Zechariah. And he's saying you're guilty of all the blood from Abel to Zechariah. In the Jewish canon of Scripture they arrange it a little differently than our Old Testament is arranged. Their first book is Genesis, though like ours. And who's the first person murdered in the Bible? Abel, he's the first person in history. This is what Jesus is saying. The first person in history that was murdered, abel, you're guilty of that blood. Now in their Bible. The last book is what we would call 2 Chronicles, and the last guy in the Old Testament who's murdered is guess what? This guy, zechariah. So what does Jesus say? He's saying you're guilty of all the blood from the beginning of history up to where we are now in canonical history. You're guilty of all that blood of history up to where we are now in canonical history. Okay, you're guilty of all that blood.
Speaker 2:Now, how long has the human race been around? When did Abel live? Did Abel live? Modern people, truly modern, you know, really intellectual, very wise academic tell us that we've been around for 200,000 years or so. Well, wouldn't that mean that there was some blood shed before Abel? Who was only about at this time, 4,000, 5,000 years before, I mean, was anybody murdered for the first 190-something thousand years of human history? Do you think any humans may have killed other humans? I guess Jesus was just ignorant about that. Jesus just didn't know what an idiot. We know so much more than him. See, we've advanced the Bible. It won't permit that type of chronology. 200,000 years, and the Bible is insistent that. You know this is the first murder. But according to other people you know who are, many evangelicals would have to admit that there were murders before that. So it's inconsistent. It has problems with the text. How about the global flood of Noah and the fossil record which I mentioned to you earlier? Matthew 24, 37. I'll just turn one page over 24, 37.
Speaker 2:In Jesus' Olivet Discourse In verses 37 to 39, he's describing the global flood as a model for what it will be like when the second coming transpires. So he says in verse 37, the coming of the Son of man will be just like the days of Noah, for as in those days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, they were marrying and giving in marriage until the day that noah entered the ark and they did not understand, until the flood came and took them all away. So will the coming of the son of man be now? In other words, did jesus build his doctrine of the second coming on the flood? Of no, yes, and he said there's an exact parallel. He says it'll be just like in verse 37, which is a term of identity. It'll be identical in the respect that he's describing.
Speaker 2:So maybe Jesus just made a mistake by building the doctrine of the second coming on the flood. What do you think? I mean, are we just going to. Well, if you wipe away the global flood of Noah, right, and you say, well, in these modern times we know better that there's been many local floods, you know, over the course of time, and that explains the fossil record, which is what they basically say, then you're denying the global flood. But if you deny the global flood of Noah as an evangelical, which many do, how can you hold on to the second coming?
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