Obstacles to Opportunities
When faced with life's obstacles, let's channel that negative energy into positivity and forge opportunities. Throughout the nation, business owners will share their experiences of triumphing over daunting challenges in their careers and lives, illustrating how they've harnessed these experiences for growth opportunities.
Obstacles to Opportunities
Rising Above Storms: Desiree Haight's Roofing Journey
Meet Desiree Haight, the owner of RRCA Roofing and Sky Diamonds University in Naples, Florida. As a dedicated mother of two and the wife of Lee Haight, she and her husband run a thriving company. Their shared passion extends beyond their own success; they're committed to helping aspiring roofing professionals achieve excellence in the industry. However, their path to success has been marked by challenges, including the unique experiences of being a roofer's spouse and the impact of Hurricane Ian on their family. Join us on this episode of "Obstacles & Opportunities" to explore Desiree's inspiring journey in the roofing world and beyond.
Okay, welcome to the obstacles opportunities podcast.
Speaker 1:I'm your host, jess Powell and I'm your co -host, heather Kane, and today we are so excited to have our guest here in studio, desiree Haight, and she has been a friend of mine for the past couple years and, honestly, I met her and it was just like one of those things where I was so inspired by things that she's accomplished in her life, but also her attitude. I think her attitude is probably the biggest thing that I have just seen over the past even I mean especially the past year and how she's been able to overcome adversity and rise above it, and so I'm excited to bring her story to you.
Speaker 3:Thank you, guys. I'm so happy to be here.
Speaker 1:Okay, so let's get into it. I've got to hear let's start with moving 15 times. Oh, my goodness, let's start there. Can you explain this to us? Because whenever I first met our mutual friend Emily, she explained her lifestyle in the industry that you're in. And she said we have moved over and I don't know how many times it had been, but she had her babies. She moved every whatever six months to a year and she explained the lifestyle and kind of the industry you're in. And when I met you it was like that times a thousand of what you've gone through. So can you kind of take us through like just that part of your life?
Speaker 3:Well, it sounds like really crazy, like whenever you explain it to people, because it kind of is. But our business is dependent on the weather, which we all know is like super unpredictable. And so when I met Lee, he was actually in Atlanta working a hail storm, and by that I mean like we had a giant hail storm there, lots of homes damaged because of it, and so Lee would come in and help evaluate the damage, and once there's a storm that large, you know, the local companies just don't have the resources and the manpower to be able to service everyone that has been affected by the storm. So Lee was there working a hailstorm, and so I was actually in radiology school whenever I met him, to get my degree as a radiologic technologist, and so I did finish school, but before I finished school we had our daughter and got married, and so right after I finished school there was a hailstorm in Novi, michigan, and like I had no idea, like at that time, really, what that was going to be the start of for me. So did you know what you signed up for? I did? I mean I was 22 years old and you know I thought like, wow, this is crazy and cool. Like you know, wow, I get to go all these different places and I traveled a lot like as a kid, but not anything like I have over the past, you know, 15 or 16 years. So I was excited for, you know, something new and you know I also knew that I was willing to do whatever it was going to take to keep my family together.
Speaker 3:You know, at that point Lee and I were young, we were, you know, newlyweds, we had a baby and I was like I'm going wherever he goes, like I don't, I don't care what it is. So we went to Michigan and then from there we went to, like, phoenix and then Pittsburgh, knoxville, nashville, st Louis. I wish I had done a better job now of like keeping track of all the places. I wish I had like saved all of Rayleigh's like boarding passes, because we flew all the time like between going from office to office or visiting family or anything like that. We just traveled non-stop. So I wish that I had done a better job of like keeping up with it and documenting but you were busy, I was very busy, you were busy, you had more babies in the midst of all of that too, not until later Rayleigh was almost four when I had Harlan.
Speaker 3:But yeah, I spent, like most of my pregnancy in Minnesota because we were working there for a hillstorm. It wasn't until Irma that we worked a hurricane, so that was that was new after Irma for us, and but it's hurricane work more long term.
Speaker 1:I would almost expect possibly then a hillstorm, like yeah, your base there, possibly longer mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:Well, for, definitely for Irma it has been. Yeah, some of the places that we were in, like in Phoenix, arizona, like that was more short-term, we were only there like six or seven months and you're just renting houses too.
Speaker 2:So it's like, did you feel? I mean, I always tell my kids houses are sheet rock, home is where the family is right, because we were always moving as well. Do you feel, like, as far as the stability now that you've been here a while, like are you like okay, like maybe this is home, or do you kind of detach yourself from a location as home?
Speaker 3:oh, no, this is definitely home for us. Okay, and I always, like worked really hard like to make sure we, wherever we were, was home for us. So, even like, whenever we moved, like we had, lee hated it because I like stuff and he was like, why do we need all these things? You know, he was used to being like a bag of bond, like a single male with like no single suitcase. Yeah, he didn't care. You know, he had his truck. Decorative pillows yeah, exactly all the holiday decorations at the reeds, yeah, and I'm very into, you know, making our house a home and, yes, it is just the house and that's why it was fine for me. You know, I knew that I could make that for our family anywhere we were, as long as we were together.
Speaker 2:So yeah, it was. It was actually positive because you know you're. You know it's hard, I would think, because you're coming into a disaster situation right where people need you. But then how do you stay positive through all of that with your family?
Speaker 3:well, I mean, we had a lot of fun doing it. Like the there was, we would travel like with a group. You know, like she's saying, dustin and Emily, they've been to a lot of different places with us, so we would bring your staff with you okay, so that's fun.
Speaker 1:I didn't even think about that, so you almost have a little bit of a built-in support or a community of people when you're moving well, and it's like you're your.
Speaker 3:Your team becomes your family because you're away from your family. You don't, I didn't, you know, I didn't have my, my parents or my in-laws there when my kids were young and I didn't have my best friends close by to be able to watch my kids when I needed them, or something like that.
Speaker 2:I don't even think about that. When I'm meeting with roofers, I don't even think about the sacrifice that the family is doing for them to be there. It's kind of like military you know, you don't. You don't even think about how much the family has to sacrifice for for that. I didn't even think about that. Did you ever think about?
Speaker 1:that I have now that I know Emily and Desiree I really have and and I think about you know, emily has told her story too of having two kids kind of on the road quote, unquote you know and how, when you guys both kind of settled into Naples it was kind of the first place you guys had both kind of called home for a long period of time.
Speaker 1:So I got to kind of see that with you guys like enjoying getting settled with the kids and I and now I have to bring this up because this is the part of maybe your story that you know it really like hits home for a lot of people. But you got established in Naples, got your house together, lived here for how many years, or how many years have you lived here?
Speaker 3:Since 2017, so but so that I mean, I guess we had been, we were, we were. We rented a house for about four years and then we bought a house whenever we decided, like where exactly we wanted to be.
Speaker 1:But yeah, so it was about six years, six years of living in Naples, and then 20, let's see 2022 hit. And that's when Hurricane Ian came through. And I remember I was flying back from Germany because we were in Germany during the hurricanes for another podcast. Oh wow, I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah, and I pulled into my driveway and Desiree is outside with her whole family, her dogs. She's out in our neighborhood walking the dogs and it was just, you know, during Hurricane Ian. It was such a crazy period of time. It's fine.
Speaker 2:And it was actually one year, like to the day, like I keep saying, like yes, yeah, 28th my son's birthday was when it hit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was. Yeah, my son was sheltering in place on his like 10th birthday, so Desiree's outside, and that's when I found out that her home had been almost completely like destroyed, flooded. I mean, how high was the water? There was about three feet of water, yeah, three feet, and so she. So they had to start all over.
Speaker 2:So I'm, ironically, the reason that we were here in the house before it flooded to about two years. So here you've been waiting how long to create this home for you and your family. Then you're in it for two years and one of the largest hurricanes that's ever hit us comes through like how did you? How?
Speaker 3:did you manage that? It was like pure chaos, would you say. I was like I felt pretty chaotic for a little while. It was like I don't know. I feel like I thrive under pressure, so I was just like going through the motions, like, okay, we got to do this, we got to do that, we're gonna I have to, you know, and we're contractors. So thankfully we have the resources and men, people to be able to just like get the house gutted, and we have like a partnership with serve pro, and so we were one of the first houses that they came to whenever they got into town. So that was such a blessing. So it was just like get everything dried out and you know, get, get all the stuff out. And I mean it was, I feel, like pure chaos for like a good couple of months because we were in even having to deal with all that.
Speaker 2:Go to temporary housing? Yeah, I'm assuming which was how you'll find.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Well, she was staying with a friend who's our mutual friend, so she was staying with her for I don't know how long you stayed.
Speaker 3:We stayed at Dustin and Emily's for about a week A week.
Speaker 1:And so we got to see each other in the neighborhood and I was keeping tabs on what was going on. But then you found a rental and I mean we didn't hear from you for a while because I feel like you were so busy with your task list and getting things done and, like I was checking with Emily, I was like is she doing okay? She's like, yeah, I think she's doing okay. Now, like once you've gotten to the rental, like you kind of knew-.
Speaker 3:It was very stressful getting into a rental because it was like everyone that had lost their homes, which was a ton of people were all looking for somewhere to go.
Speaker 2:My sister got nine feet of water in her house, oh wow, and they ended up having to live on the second floor of the property because they couldn't find a rental which would almost be I think worse because it was so bad.
Speaker 3:Well, it's like you never get to leave it.
Speaker 2:No, you never get to rent. And then the noise nonstop.
Speaker 3:Oh, yeah, and the people I mean it was. Yeah, we were very blessed to find a rental house close to the kids' schools, close to our office, close to our house, because I was going there every day to manage the rebuild and meet with contractors. So are you in the new house one year later? Yes, we moved back in May, so it took about eight months and yes, we're back home, we're settled. We're Now? Do you?
Speaker 2:like the house better. Now I do. Oh my gosh, that's like an obstacle to an opportunity. Her house for sure looks amazing. Yeah, it looks so good. Probably would never have done that as a timeframe right.
Speaker 3:I actually had just redone a lot of things in it because we had a plumbing issue in March of last year and so or the year before, I guess now. But we had just redone, like we had to re-pipe the whole house overhead. It's an older house and so we did all that. Then there's drywall repair, and then there was paint, and then there was flooring, because they had to tear up our floors. And then we did all that and I was like well, lee, why don't we get some you know some new furniture? We've had some of this furniture for a long time, and so we had just gotten new furniture. Like we had slept in our new bed for like 30 days and it flooded.
Speaker 2:So but I Do you have a chance to get the things that mean the most to you out of the house before it hit? Or were you kind of in denial, like this is really not, because many people, you know, we've kind of been teased that we're going to get all of these high, you know, a combination of the high tide and the surge, and it never has happened. And then this time it actually happened. Would you were you feel like you were prepared for that? No, no, no, no, yeah.
Speaker 3:But we didn't really like lose anything that was like super sentimental or meaningful Good, like I mean we I have all my pictures were up high. I mean I would say the thing that upset me the most for one of some weird reason, I don't even know why, it was like my kids' yearbooks. Like I was fine until I found my kids' yearbooks because to me I guess that felt like a keepsake or something and they could care less. They haven't asked for the yearbooks one time. They probably won't.
Speaker 2:They're going to ask for it when they're like 20. How old are you? Right, a, 13 and nine. Okay, so I have 14 and 12, and now my 14 year old, she took her yearbook to sleep away camp and I'm like, why do you have your yearbook? She's like I want to show it to all my friends. I'm like, really, that's so random. Yeah, yeah, no, I'll ask for it later in life, but I'm sure you could contact the school and I'm gonna ask if they have it. Oh right, and think about that. Yeah, I'm sure you could. Yeah, get a reprint. Yeah, yeah, someone has to have it on file. Yeah, you know what I mean. Yeah, and if you tell them that you lost the yearbook because of the hurricane, I'm sure people will move heck in high water to try and get it for you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's a good idea. Yeah, yeah, I should do that. But other than that, no, we didn't really lose anything meaningful. I did, luckily, like put all of our like important papers up on the kitchen counter, and even Lee was like what are you doing? Why are you doing that? And I was like I don't know, it just feels like I'm supposed to, and that was literally the only thing that I did. Yeah, you weren't in the home, though, when, no, we left, okay, good, but we were just like right outside of it and at the Hyatt house, like right next to the neighbor. It was crazy.
Speaker 2:Because that's where my sister, they, her husband, stayed and she came to my house and he saw the tide coming and he was prepared to jump. He was on the second floor and prepared. Their floating dock came right up to their master bedroom window so he was prepared to jump out of his master bedroom window onto the floating dock because he wasn't sure how high, how high it was gonna go. And I feel like he's still there's some serious. That's terrifying, terrifying, yeah, yeah. So I'm glad you guys left, thank God.
Speaker 3:Yes, we took our dogs and left.
Speaker 1:So you guys were out of your home for eight months and during the eight months you were just kind of like hanging out not doing much, right, yeah, just totaling my phones, nothing to do. So what's so impressive is not only is she like helping you know to like project manage, build her home, she's running you know multiple businesses with her husband and they're thriving and you know it's that part was like very, you know, amazing to me, cause it takes. It takes really like an attitude adjustment and at one point I remember you being like it's just stuff, you know, like we're okay and it's just stuff. And I think you're able to compartmentalize a little bit and like keep your life moving, you know and and yeah, great things Like during that year, I mean and I have to brag on you guys a little bit it's like when I look at I know parts of your team, I've met people like on your team that work with you.
Speaker 1:You have amazing people that work with you and it's a testament. It's like over 14 years you guys have moved the business from a five to $10 million business to a $100 million business and one thing that I've I really saw that really stuck out to me is, I don't know, just a testament to your characters. You guys are kind of turning around and trying to help others build their businesses Like you've built yours. So can you kind of tell us a little bit about that? Like what, what does that take in to move a business from you know that point to where it is today?
Speaker 3:Well, I would say the number one thing has been key people Like, yeah, we couldn't have done any of it without having amazing people on our team and, just you know, really finding people that have strengths in the areas where we were weak and trusting them with the task that you know we're at, we've asked them to do. Lee is extremely passionate about showing everyone the opportunity of being able to change their family's lives with. You know, just one yes to a new job or, you know, a new opportunity, or he just loves, like, really sharing with others, like things that we've experienced that we've had to overcome, and teach them how to do the same thing and to be able to, you know, grow their businesses or, you know, reach their sales goals or, you know, grow with inside of our organization, and that's just one thing that he's just always been very, very passionate about. Like in the beginning, I was like why are we telling the other roofers about how we do it?
Speaker 1:Why are we telling the competition what we're doing? Why?
Speaker 3:are we doing this? And he was like we just, you know, there's so many, there's so many roofs, there's so many opportunities, there's so much work to go around. You know, why would we not share that with everyone? So it took me a little while to get on board with that because I was like, what are we doing? Why? Because he has another business where he does like coaching and consulting for other contractors too, in addition to the roofing business. So that's where he just really, you know, obviously, if someone can't come and be a member of the RRCA organization, he still wants to share with them how, you know, we've been able to achieve the success that we have and let them, you know, learn from our mistakes and not have to make the same ones again.
Speaker 2:So that's incredible.
Speaker 1:I mean, that is such a testament, though, to the type of leaders you guys are, because there's so many people that I feel like could have that scarcity mindset. That's like. You know, I'm keeping this for myself. You know I'm going to rise up as high as I can and forget about everyone else.
Speaker 2:You know, and I always say, like, imitation is the best form of flattery, right, because you've done something incredible. Right, so people are wanting to do what you do so that you can elevate, but the original is always the best, right, so it's it's, it's fantastic. I mean, I think that that whole sharing is caring. I wish more business owners would adopt it, right? Yeah, especially in the real estate world, because I feel like so many people have this like it's not a barrier.
Speaker 2:It's a barrier and I, you know, we as a team, we share everything. That's how we've always been, and a lot of people have said, well, why are you doing that? You know, we even built a staging and design platform that's across the country and people are like why are you sharing your trade secrets? I'm like, well, why not? Why not?
Speaker 1:It's going to elevate the whole industry really.
Speaker 3:And that's what Lee's goal was, exactly how you said it just to elevate the whole industry. Because you know, I feel like construction specifically, and roofing very specifically, has just always had like kind of a negative connotation and people look at contractors in a bad light, and for good reason. I mean, there's lots of shady contractors, but like just being able to teach someone else like you know how to acquire more business, or how to you know acquire more business, or how to have better marketing, or you know a way to manage their like a business management system or things like that, I mean, why not share those things if you can help? You know Lee wants to be able to change the status of the roofing industry and really as a whole just be able to help change the way people view contractors and just so what's the?
Speaker 2:name of your company, r RCA.
Speaker 3:RCA is that same for roofing and reconstruction contractors of America.
Speaker 2:So is it almost like an association. But that's your, that's that sounds like. It sounds like you can almost become part of it. Like are you a national franchise of that, or is that just your?
Speaker 3:local. So my father in law actually started the business with a vision very similar to that in mind. So he would love to get RCA to the point to where people are buying franchises of. That's what I see it. Yeah, you know, and that that was exactly. You know what his vision for it was was. You know just that it would be like a, a society of contractors.
Speaker 2:They leverage your systems and models to take it to the next level.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he would be so happy. I'm going to tell him. He said that name.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she got like a. I guess I get it. I get it. I mean that's you Like if he's empowering people across the country? You know, you basically put the roofing business in a box and you because most roofers are not business men, most contractors, the reason why they fail is because they're terrible business but they're great at roofing right, they're great at roofing.
Speaker 3:So if you can be the leverage and solution for them to empower them to build a bigger business by leveraging your systems and models through your society organization, I mean that's, that's the franchise model right, and that's a lot of what Lee does like with his coaching program, and it's just, you know, like teaching them, like how to like people, like you said, have a small mindset and they are. You know, they they're like I don't, I don't want to hire someone to do this, if I can do it myself, well, it's like you have to leverage, yeah.
Speaker 2:People with scarcity minds that are afraid of leverage, and when they don't leverage they don't grow, and so sometimes they just they don't get it. And once they get it, it's such a beautiful thing, right, right, why did that do this years ago? Well, you said what hit me the most. I always say you can never take your business to the next level without the right people. Right, and I always say with the right talent. Right, because I'm weak in so many areas and the goal of a business owner is to find the people that, where you are weak, that they fill that void so that you become stronger.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, I love whenever we find someone that has like a strength in an area where we're not great at something, because it really just, you know, freeze up our time to be able to do other things that we are really good at, and, rather than having to try and figure out how to recreate the wheel or get something done when, when someone else is an expert in that area, I let them be the expert.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Thank you so much to all the people. I mean it's good leadership, it's just great leadership. I mean the best leaders are the ones that empower other people to rise up. They're not trying to be everything to everyone, they know themselves enough. And we were actually talking about that a little bit you know about, and we went into a little bit of Heather's story in episode one. So we'll have to, you know, listen to that. But one of the main things, or my takeaways, was that when you have a really clear vision, you can kind of get through anything you like. Hang on to that vision. And so I think a lot of times as you're dealing with, like you know, as you hire people or you're doing this, you know it's gonna be hard, it's just gonna be hard.
Speaker 2:And many people are not gonna get your vision. No, and that just means they're not sitting in the right seat. Right, we joke around and say there's a boat and that means they're just gonna jump out of that boat and we're not gonna give them an order to pull them back in.
Speaker 3:Okay, that's a good one. I always said we use like if they're in the right seat on the bus. That's one that I'm not on our loss as a lot. Are they in the right seat on the bus? Yeah, are they in the right seat on the bus? Yeah, because I mean, oftentimes you might have a great person with great talent and maybe they're just not in the right spot Right, so you do have to move them to a different seat on the bus, depending on you know what their strengths are.
Speaker 2:So many times. I have a gal who started with me as a realtor and I just knew it wasn't the right fit for her, you know. And then she moved into my marketing director and she was good, but I always felt like that wasn't it. And now she's running the design side and she is flourishing. I mean the excitement, the energy, the attitude, the everything she's like off the charts. And then you know she got to the right seat. Yeah, and sometimes when they're good talent and they're good people, you invest in them to figure out what seat they should sit in Exactly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, that takes a lot of you have to really, you know, be committed to people and, you know, be willing to do the hard work to dig in and see, like you know, where should they go, what should they do.
Speaker 3:Well, and once you've invested time into someone, you don't want to just say, well, this isn't really for you, right? You've spent time and effort on them and you've poured into them. You want to see them be successful. So oftentimes you have to just like kind of rearrange a little bit and figure out where their strengths are going to be a better fit for them.
Speaker 2:Highways, you're like if they have loyalty and they're good talent, they have a positive attitude. That's everything. That's everything. Yeah, Put them anywhere.
Speaker 1:Yeah, any get-eat seat on the bus, just hop in.
Speaker 2:The door is open. We'll see where you go. If you fall out of the boat, I will definitely give you an oar.
Speaker 1:Got life preservers for you. Well, I've loved chatting with you. I mean, I kind of went through and I learned some new things about you, like as we kind of pre-did this. I know that you have like a special spot in your heart for your dad because you kind of share that he was the primary person you raised to. Yes, so how did your dad like what kinds of things that he instilled in you, I know, just at a young age like that prepared you for?
Speaker 3:this life. Like well, I even felt like him last night, actually, because Harlan came home from his little league team and he's been playing travel ball and he was like I don't want to play little league anymore. And I was like, well, guess what? You're mid-season, you're not quitting. And I was like, oh, my god, I sound like my dad, because so many times he would be like no, you started something and You're gonna finish it. And not only are you gonna finish it, you're gonna work hard until you're done.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I mean just like x-ray school. I mean, at the time when I thought I was Gonna, I thought I was gonna go get an x-ray job, but I didn't ever. But he was, you know, I had gotten pregnant during school and then Lee and I got married and I was like you know, and he was like, no, you started, you're gonna finish. Like this is, we don't quit halfway through something. You see it through, and Doesn't that have not taught you everything in life? Yeah, it really has. And that's what I was trying to tell Harlan last night and Lee was like getting frustrated and I was like, okay, well, he's nine, he's just not quite gonna get it. I mean, I probably was 30, you know, before I was like that was a good lesson yeah.
Speaker 2:But consistency, he'll get there yeah. But if you teach him now to quit, then what's he gonna do? And another obstacle arises later in life yeah well am I.
Speaker 3:He was a single dad.
Speaker 3:So I mean, you know, I think that probably single dads don't always get the credit that, like single moms do, because I know that's probably more often the case.
Speaker 3:But you know, there was a lot, of, a Lot of time where, you know, he was having to Depend on my grandparents to help him with, because he was a hard worker, he was working, you know, late nights and he was. He worked for Pike nurseries, a company in Atlanta, for like 22 years and so he had a lot of very important roles there and you know, I mean it was just hard for him, I think, sometimes, and so I saw him push through and, you know, keep his eye on the goal and just know that Just it takes hard work and so I just I've always been, I feel like, you know, just a hard worker, because that was modeled for me as a kid you know had a persevere right Because you've seen your dad do it, and we all are a product of our parents, as much as we don't want to say that, yeah, and raising me by yourself was a lot of hard work, I'm sure so surely not Perfect angel, right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, perfect, that's what I call my kids. Yeah, it is amazing just to kind of our upbringing and the lessons we've learned and and all that. So you know, as we wrap up here, what some advice you would give to someone who's like facing an obstacle, like facing something they want to give up. I mean, where do you, where do you go, like, what do you do? How do you, how do you dig in and, you know, find the Strength to get through it?
Speaker 3:you know well, I would say for me it's always been like a community. I've always, you know, if I was having trouble in an area, you have to just know, like who your people are that you can go to, that are gonna give you the pep talk and put you Back out there and say you got this, like you know, you got to figure this out and then figure out what's next, because Quitting's not an option. So I, you know, you have to. You have to know who your people are, that are your cheerleaders, that are Gonna be there for you no matter what and Lean on them whenever you need to like. I just I've always been like very independent, and so you just have to know that sometimes it's okay to say like I Need help or I'm going through a hard time, or I don't want to do this anymore or this is too hard for me.
Speaker 3:Yeah and just know who's gonna be there for you and say, no, actually you're really good at this part of it or you're gonna do really well you know with what, with this something. Once you're done, or whatever it is like, you just have to know who your people are and you just have to reframe your mindset and you're thinking and just decide like, okay, I'm gonna make something really positive out of this and Not let this be what stops me, because I mean it's so easy to just quit. It is, that's the easy. That's the easy out right?
Speaker 2:No, today I would. I had like a reflection. So I was working out and they had us do the exact same reps over and over and over again For 12 minutes. I thought I was gonna die, yeah, but then they then the next set was something different every minute and that was easy, yeah, and it made me reflect that whenever you have to do something consistently over and over and over again, it's mundane and it's not fun. That's what gets results and that's what's harder. Yeah, and life, and I feel like so many people, they want to change Because they think it gets better and it doesn't. It doesn't equate to any type of result. Right, it's the things that you could consistency that are hard. That actually gets you to the next level. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:I was talking about stay in the boat, stay in the bus day in the back.
Speaker 2:Don't stay around, not greener, just stay in, stay out. What I took away from what you just said to you for meme Was that you've got to have the right circle, you do right, yeah, and if you don't, sometimes you got to find the circle, get to build the circle. Yeah, absolutely. You have to be sure you are who you surround yourself with, and if you surround yourself with the right people, then they will help you stay on the bus. Absolutely, yeah absolutely.
Speaker 1:I've heard it call. I've heard people say circle the wagons, like. I've heard that Terminology where people like I need to circle the wagons, like I need my people, I need it, but dear. Something you said that stuck out to me was that you're, like I've always been, a very independent person. I think people that are, can you know, have a tendency to be successful, can be what's called independent, have a independent personality, which means that you may not be naturally drawn to like lean on other people. So what you said was I think really it's hard like you have to develop that yeah.
Speaker 1:You have to realize, like the humanity in it, that we're all. We all have weak, hard days and it's okay to show that to people and be vulnerable and, you know, find the people that will lift you up and they know you and they can pep talk you and encourage you. Yeah well, you can't do it all on your own.
Speaker 3:No, no, anything now. Whatever it is parenting If it's a, you know like, there's always going to be somebody that's gonna know a little bit more about it than you or a lot More about it than you, and there's going to be someone that has more experience and someone that's better at it, and Someone you know like. Just you have to just keep yourself surrounded with people that are going to push you and encourage you to do better, and you know people that you can learn from and you know they're not going to drag you down, they're going to help build you up, and and just stay Encouraging. I think is so super important. You can't just be around negative people. Nothing drives me crazier than negative people. Same.
Speaker 2:Diddow diddow. Well, I have loved my time with you. Thank you so much for coming.
Speaker 1:I really appreciate your time and, like you said, you are one of those people. For me, like whenever I think about Surrounding myself with like sharp, ambitious, right, positive people, I think of you. So give you so much for doing this and for sharing your wisdom with everyone and and I really look forward to sharing this with the rest of the world Absolutely. Thank you, guys, thank you.
