Obstacles to Opportunities
When faced with life's obstacles, let's channel that negative energy into positivity and forge opportunities. Throughout the nation, business owners will share their experiences of triumphing over daunting challenges in their careers and lives, illustrating how they've harnessed these experiences for growth opportunities.
Obstacles to Opportunities
The RISE Team Story with Katrena Meyers, Brittany Androchuk, and Nikki Hagmann
SEASON 2 is up! Meet the powerhouse women of KW Elevate Luxury in Naples, FL. Katrena Meyers, Brittany Androchuk, and Nikki Hagmann, also known as the RISE Team. Last year, they closed $45 million in volume and continue to make waves in the SWFL real estate market. In this episode, we dive into their mindset hacks, their unique perspectives on failure, and how they're all committed to raising confident, hard-working children. Be inspired by their journey to build a massive real estate business while balancing motherhood and entrepreneurship.
Welcome to the obstacles opportunities podcast. I am Jess Powell, your host, and, and I'm your co-host, heather Kane. Guys, we're sharing our mic.
Speaker 2:so this, this may be a little different.
Speaker 1:It's gonna be fun today, but it's season two, episode one, and we have a packed studio.
Speaker 2:We do, and I absolutely have fallen in love with these three ladies that are in our studio today, so I cannot wait to talk about their journey.
Speaker 1:And they are gosh. You just said it. I think this week You're like they are doing big things.
Speaker 2:I mean, I am so excited to see where they're going to be in one year from now, where you see right now and take this and multiply it by abundance and that's what's going to happen.
Speaker 1:It's so exciting and so, just a little bit, some things you guys all have in common, so I'm going to go through who we have here. This is like the mystery, right? So who we have currently in the studio. We have Nikki Hegman, we have Brittany Androchuk and we have Katrina Myers, and we are just so excited for you to meet them, guys. Last year their team grossed $45 million in real estate. They have a booming property management business. That's going on, and I think you said it best, heather, last week. You said these ladies are going to be doing big things.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. You know it's not even just about their business, but you can tell just the mindset growth that I know is about to happen for them. So it's the sky's the limits. But whenever there's success there's obstacles, and we all know that and we all go through a journey in life and without failures and without obstacles we actually don't appreciate the success that we have. So this podcast is all about obstacles that if we turned into opportunities to be where you are today and how you are doing big things in your business, absolutely and so, guys, let's start with whoever wants to answer this.
Speaker 1:So you guys you know we've talked about this and I talked with you a little bit about it, Katrina is that a lot of people just see your success and they see, you know where you are, but they have no clue the journey it took to get here. So could you guys kind of share like a few moments in time to how you got here and just like really bring us back to like how did this all begin for you and you know, how did you guys meet and what kinds of things you have in common, because I think you do, like have a lot of things in common and that's like what brought you guys together. So share with us.
Speaker 4:Let's hear it okay so we came together because I feel like we kind of all attract similar personalities to ourselves and what we obviously enjoy being around mindset and goals and what drives us so specifically. We all have a drive to really want to take our lives and our families to levels that we can't even think of at this point.
Speaker 2:Where did that drive come from, Katrina?
Speaker 4:I think the drive comes from just you know, never settling, you know, always.
Speaker 2:I'm not good at this you're talking, okay great, you know this is raw, authentic and people are going to relate to that, so we're not going to cut this out. So there's a few that are listening. This is real. So the reason why I'm asking you that is, whenever you have a drive, whenever you have something, it's because something happened in your life that gave you a little bit of scarcity. Yeah, it gave you this feeling inside of you where you have to push through. Okay. So where do you feel like that came from?
Speaker 3:Brittany, I think that we all relate in the sense of like to go way far back in childhood and being grateful and having to really work for ourselves and build a life for ourselves, because it wasn't given to us. So I think that we had that challenge, like all of us share that, that challenge of scarcity and not having a lot in the sense of being in our teenage years and a lot of, you know, a lot of the time being in certain areas. You see your friends and things are handed to them, whereas for us, you know, it's a completely different situation, where we had to figure out a place to live at 18. We had to work multiple jobs and it was just like hey, hey, you're out, figure it out. And so I think that we're almost grateful for our hardest times because now, like coming into a position where we have more opportunity and we can actually give back to other people that were like in our situations.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I don't think any of us had a silver spoon situation. Like we all came from very hardworking families and that really shapes like your values and what we want to present to our children as well. Like I think all of our wives are our kids.
Speaker 5:Yeah, and we have that 100 percent and that really brings us together. It's not every day that you find a team that really aligns with your goals for your family. You know you can find people who you align with in business, that all want to go the same place in business, but it's always how's your kids, how's your family. What do you need for this, what do you need for that, and that really, at the end of the day, keeps us together?
Speaker 4:Yeah, it drives us to do as much as possible so we can offer them. You know I always joke around. I'm like I want to be my kid, you know, like I want to be my kid, like I want to go to Jumping Jacks today. Yeah, they have like just the cool. All of our kids have the coolest lives. Yeah, they do, they get it really, and we're trying to provide experiences that are also outside of the box, you know, so that they really just get to live the but get to experience. You know what goes into, you know, having that full life.
Speaker 2:You're taking an entrepreneurial path and a lot of people like yourselves that had to work really, really hard and get jobs. They have a fear of going out on their own and taking an entrepreneurial path, like what gave you the heart and desire to take that path versus a job.
Speaker 4:I mean, I'm speaking for myself, but I didn't really have an option. It was, you know, figure it out and or fail, and I'm not going to fail, so you've never failed. Well, I mean, we all fail, but that's part of the process of number one failure.
Speaker 2:Well, I've had a lot of failures.
Speaker 4:The process of number one failure. Well. I've had a lot of failures, you know. I just think that my number one failure would probably just be mom guilt.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I have that big time. Yeah, massive. I mean like I could tear up just seeing you tear up, yeah, yeah, always feeling am I could tear up just seeing you tear up? Yeah, yeah, always feeling am I doing enough? Right, because you are building a bigger life for you and your business, right? Yeah, I think a lot of people that are listening can relate to that too.
Speaker 4:Yeah, because you just like want them to have like the best lives and you want to have the best life for yourself and for your family and just requires working a lot and that requires a time balance. And I think that especially during COVID, you know, with so many unknowns, you either decided you know I'm speaking for myself and for us I kind of sat down with everybody and I was like, well, we can either, you know, I kind of sat down with everybody and I was like, well, we can either, you know, stay home and we can fear, or we can go out and we can do our best and we can see this as an opportunity and we can try our hardest and we can be the small percentage that comes out of this, you know, and not let the fear scare us in this situation.
Speaker 2:It's a pivotal move that you made in your business. Yeah, and how many rentals do you, ladies, have now?
Speaker 4:We have. We have a. It fluctuates between 75 and 150 because my owners love to come in and come out, you know, through the retirement phase.
Speaker 2:If those of you that are listening like to manage 75 to 100 rentals and to have that big of a business, that takes some serious dedication and hard work.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah so I've got a question. We may maybe you're off a little bit, but I came from a similar background, like I didn't get things handed to me either, you know college. Like I came out with loans. My first car I was the. You know I started working early to, like you know, I wasn't given a car or anything like that right now I was given a dodge, caravan, minivan, oh and paneling oh, that was my dream, wow I wanted one.
Speaker 2:Wow, oh yeah I was rolling up and like wow, I think. No, we couldn't even sell it, it was so bad. No, that's what I was handed, oh my gosh, I mean, that's a vibe. Like when you rolled up that's a vibe, but how? Many people.
Speaker 5:Did you fit in there?
Speaker 4:How many people did you take home after school?
Speaker 2:I had literally like eight girls mega moms, you name it Everything. I call it the grocery getter. The grocery getter, really.
Speaker 4:The grocery getter and I bet everybody wanted to jump in because it's all the way you make it right 100%.
Speaker 2:I think that's what we all have in common. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So I guess what I'm curious about? I'm still trying to figure this out myself. You're raised that way, right, and like now, you guys are doing some really great things in your business and, like you said, you can afford opportunities and you can afford experiences with your kids. What boundaries do you set so that they still have a similar upbringing, like you did, so that they know the value of work, they know the value of you know what kinds of things do you guys do as mothers to like ensure that they get kind of that? You know that same experience, right.
Speaker 4:I think we have this in common as well. It's just you know being really transparent with our children and expressing you know why we have to do something. It's not just you know being really transparent with our children and expressing you know why we have to do something. It's not just like we're on a call, it's like mom has to take this call for work so that we can do X, y, z. Not trying to make them feel guilty in any manner, but just trying to always have clear transparency. Brittany's really great at that and that's actually who I learned it from. Let's hear what you did, okay yeah, tell us it is.
Speaker 3:So. It's just my son and myself and I'm a single mom, and so there's a ton of challenges that come with that time and, like I'm still on the up right, like we're all, we have our goals, I'm not where I want to be. Yet and again, who knows if we'll ever be where we want to be.
Speaker 2:Oh, we will.
Speaker 3:I mean okay. So when I say that I so, when I say that I mean like when I reach that goal, I'm gonna have a next goal. Oh, I don't mean it in a negative way. I mean like hey, I was, I hit this goal, what's my next one? So, like right now, for Zayden and I, we don't own a home and so, like he knows, like my number one goal in life is to give my son a home. I would love him to have a yard. Like it's hard raising your kid in an apartment, like they don't have that freedom of like running around and like having fun, like that. So anytime I'm doing work, like I tell Zayden like Zayden, I really want to buy us a home and I really want to get you a yard so you can go play soccer, like whatever you want. And he's like no, mommy, like I know. Like you go sell some houses. I love that. He's like no, mommy, like I know like you go sell some houses.
Speaker 1:I love that. He's like cheering you on.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah he'll do like videos with me in the morning. He'll be like, oh, that outfit looks good or you should do this with your outfit. So, like it's funny, like I definitely incorporate him a lot into business. And a lot of people would say, brit, like he knows too much or you tell him too much, but it's just us. Like he he's my best friend and like I am transparent with them, because I used to hate when I was a child when people or my parents would be like, because I said so, right, right, you're a kid, like no, like it's okay. Like I can tell you like, hey, mommy has to work really hard so that we can afford X, y and Z, and then he appreciates it and he's all about saving his money and like learning from that aspect too. That's great.
Speaker 2:Do you guys have Greenlight yes, greenlight has been like a lifesaver for so if you and this is like not a promotion on Greenlight- we don't have any sponsorship If you want to, we would be open to it.
Speaker 2:Greenlight has been yeah, right, totally. It's like been a game changer, because it teaches kids to invest and save, and they've been like. My kids can earn up to $60 a week, but I have a huge list of things that they have to do and everything has a number, right? Yes, so based off of what they accomplished that week, they can get paid just like if they had a job. But that's the great thing about Greenlight and it shows you how to take that percentage and they can invest it and save it. So if you haven't ever, it's actually really good. Do you use that? No, oh my gosh, they have their own credit card. Oh, that's genius.
Speaker 2:So my thing is no money is given, money is earned. That's like our philosophy in our family is earned. That's like our philosophy in our family so if you want it, you earn it and you earn it and you can actually start a chore list and everything through green light and you can allocate how the funds are used.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh really, so you can tell, you can say, because I'm trying to institute the idea of savings with my children, which is, you know, hard right, like hole in their pocket type stuff, so you can allocate and say when you earn, 10% goes back into savings.
Speaker 4:Or you can allocate how the funds are used so they can't use it for certain things. Wow, fantastic, okay, okay. Green light Green light.
Speaker 1:Well, that's great, I mean, I just think it's actually really good because I bet a lot of listeners feel mom guilt. You know, anytime you're trying to achieve something in your life, there's always, I feel, like balance is elusive. You know, the idea of balance like is there really, like an honest to God?
Speaker 3:balance, right? No, I totally agree with that. I feel like I used to be a fitness trainer and you have to give 100% of your time, like wherever it's at. And sometimes I feel like with that mom balance and stuff, like hey, if you really want to push and work, you are going to have to make some family sacrifices and then other times, opposite direction, right. So I really think that like when you want something, you really have to go a hundred percent at it, because I don't really think 90% is enough if you want to reach that goal. There are times where it'll fluctuate, yeah, but especially like relating this to fitness, like you really have to have that mindset and like go hard on it.
Speaker 1:I always hope with my kids that they're and I know they're watching right, they're watching everything. So, even though you, you're feeling somewhat like guilt of pushing hard on something, they're they're watching everything. So, even though you, you're feeling somewhat like guilt of pushing hard on something, they're learning that Right, and that is something that you know they're they're learning and I love what you said about you know teaching them, like the why behind what you're doing is so important. You know so. And now you have a school in your backyard. Is that correct? Can you tell us about that? I mean, that's fascinating.
Speaker 5:I bought a property in Naples that had like a big steel barn in the back and my vision was that I wanted my son to be homeschooled. My son's name is Mikey and I wanted Mikey to be homeschooled. Okay, and I decided that in 2020 and moving forward, I knew I did not want that to happen inside my home, because I like order, yeah, I like peace, I need to be able to work from home during the day and things like that. So I went ahead and built out the inside of this structure with a 1500 square foot school. There's a kitchen, a laundry room and bathroom and he's homeschooled. Along with my really good friend, I sold her house down the street at the same time. We were like, let's do it. She has two boys. And then there's a ton of other kids from homeschooled families that we know that cycle in and out and we do summer camps and things like that. I do not facilitate that.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay.
Speaker 5:But I'm really proud of being able to say that he is educated at home and that's a big reason why I do that is because I want him to have, not that. What do these other kids at school have mindset? He's fine in his like Walmart jeans. I'm like, I'm not a name brand mom, I am not any of that. So for me that has played a big part in keeping him sort of humble is that he kind of doesn't know better. It's hard to do in Naples.
Speaker 2:It's really hard to do in Naples.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's really hard to do in Naples. And you know, when he spends his money he knows he needs to save a certain amount of it and he knows, like he's like Mama, it's not junk. This thing I'm buying is not junk, it will last. So that's really smart, Smart shopper, Smart shopper. So you know, those things play a big role. And in Naples, Florida, to raise a child who is grounded and humble and has an idea of what hard work is and what it takes to get the things that you want, and he knows that mommy has to go to work if he wants to continue to have, you know, the life that he has and go on the trips and the concerts that he goes to and all the things that he enjoys. And we do, we have that in common.
Speaker 5:We all have that in common Transparen, in common transparency with your children.
Speaker 2:Yes, we are so honest with our yeah, very almost like just very transparent, which is great yeah I mean, I feel like if, if you're a parent that's listening and you work really, really hard and you're not transparent, and you're given that because I told you so like, are they truly learning right the principles of what it takes to grow a big business? You know, if you have a, I think if you have an employee mindset, that's your response. If you have an entrepreneur mindset, response that you give is because you have that mindset. So I think it's a difference. And was your dad, was your family? Were they employees? They were yeah. So I think that's a very different cause. I love my family. My family was always employees and that was kind of their mind. I told you to do it. I told you so, right, but that's it and that's an employee mindset. Okay, yeah, no, interesting.
Speaker 1:I was going to ask so were any of your parents entrepreneurs? Did anyone your parents entrepreneurs?
Speaker 5:I grew up with my mom in the car business. So she was the general sales manager of very large dealerships and she was in charge of 20, 30, 50 car salesmen and she worked 60, 70 hours a week. I mean, she worked yeah.
Speaker 4:She still works. She still works.
Speaker 5:So growing up she was an employee of a car dealerships. She burned out on that after about 20 years, and now she's also in real estate. So so I have a little bit of both she's incredibly successful realtor Um, and she came from that car sales background. You can do that. You can sell some real stuff.
Speaker 3:Right you can sell a car, you can sell a house.
Speaker 5:You can sell a beautiful home in Southwest Florida. Yeah, absolutely Great.
Speaker 1:I love that. Well, I think we always talk about that. We're like, because it kind of comes back to like, where'd you get your drive? Because what I find, and I mean I don't know, I mean I think really glamorized going to college, getting like a corporate job, like something secure, because, like that was kind of you know what you did? Yeah, that's what you did, and get your benefits, you can get healthcare, like you can get a 401k, you can get all these things. And so you guys really took, like the air quotes like kind of riskier path, I suppose you know. So what kind of led you to that point? Is it just your personality? You wanted to be your own boss. Did you see more opportunity with it? Like, how did this all play out?
Speaker 5:I went the opposite from that. I didn't go to college. I didn't secure a good job with benefits. I went straight from high school where I graduated early and on my own, through a distance learning program. We moved from Ohio when I was about 16 and I was like no, I'm not going to school in a different state, so I'll do that on my own. And I immediately went to real estate school, got my license when I was 18 years old Happened to be about a year before my mom got her license so she kind of was like oh okay, that sounds like something I might want to do. So she kind of was like oh okay, that sounds like something I might want to do. And I've done that ever since. I took breaks to be a mom and during that time I started my own photography business and did birth photography. So that was a really cool experience for me as well, but it's never been an hourly employee thing for me.
Speaker 2:It's always been a figure it out thing for me. Do you think that comes, Nikki, from seeing your mom work so hard? And that's a life you didn't want?
Speaker 5:Yes, I wanted to work hard and I wanted to be that level of success, but I did not want to be an employee and I wanted the flexibility. She worked really hard to make sure she was always there and when I look back I don't feel a ton of lack and that really kind of attests to what a superhero she is, because if I was gone 70 hours a week I think my son would lose his mind.
Speaker 1:I really do.
Speaker 5:So I wanted to figure out how to do that amount of hard work and have that amount of success and kind of hack it a little bit to be able to really prioritize family over that. Because for me it's god, family, business, and it will always be that way and business is very, very important, because without that I can't have the family life that I want and I can't praise god the way that I want. Um, but it is in that order. I'll let you Katrina.
Speaker 4:I was just thinking the same thing, like just the flexibility of real estate and just being an entrepreneur is what drove me, because I ask a lot of questions and I push a lot of boundaries when working under someone you know, and so it was a lot easier to work for myself.
Speaker 2:I love you.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean because I'm the same way, I can push myself as much as I want and if and if it isn't, if I go the wrong direction or if it isn't successful, then we just reevaluate and we go a different route. And you know, you have that flexibility to always like drive your business the way you want to and you're in control of it so that you can, you can determine that success and if you ask too many questions to yourself yourself, you're finding the answers.
Speaker 1:Do you talk back to yourself?
Speaker 4:No, it's usually Brittany and I bantering back and forth about what we think is the best.
Speaker 5:Brittany asks a lot of questions too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, I definitely push boundaries. Like I've had the salary position jobs and they weren't successful for me because I get so passionate about what I do and I don't necessarily not disrespectfully but I don't care if you're the CEO, I don't care if you're the manager. If I have an opinion that I think is best for the company, that you don't like, I'm still going to share it with you. And so those jobs weren't successful for me because they didn't like the pushback. They're like who is this young 20-year-old telling me how I should, you know, do my company? And I'm just over here like hey, like the more successful you are, the more successful I'm going to be. Yes, and I think a lot of personalities have a hard time with that to me. Yes, and I think a lot of personalities have a hard time with that. But this is with Katrina. You know I met her and I pushed back and she took it as a positive. She's like, you know, I think right, like wait a second. Like I have someone that's like saying oh, I love it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I think it's just an it's, it's a, it's a mindset shift of the employer.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Right and you just you know, and it's sometimes and the why's like, why, what, what? I I'm not opposed to it Like why do you think that that's a better way of doing something right now and always being open and modifying.
Speaker 3:We'll agree, like I'll agree with her. She'll make a statement. I agree with it, but I'll be like well we say we 100% agree.
Speaker 4:But why?
Speaker 3:Why do we push each other, which I think is great, though, because we both have the same endgame Like what's going to be best for our business, right?
Speaker 4:And sometimes, if you hear us talking, we're literally arguing the same or we're not arguing. We're arguing or discussing the same point and it will sound heated, and we're literally going back and forth on what this. We're getting to the same point. We have the same exact perception of it but we're trying to decide like why?
Speaker 1:why do we think they totally agree?
Speaker 2:but they're putting each other through it yeah, yeah, I love it. What's the future of the Rise team in?
Speaker 4:Florida. I think all of our goals are just to take this business, our businesses, to the next level and then expand different areas of how we can have additional businesses and grow those and just not settling, so just finding, you know, getting. We just got here, obviously, so learning they just joined, just if anyone's watching.
Speaker 2:we launched a market center with Keller Williams called KW Elevate Luxury, and Katrina and Brittany and Nikki were one of the first teams to join us. They're so grateful. They believed in our vision and we're just ready to roll yeah.
Speaker 4:So I think we're just learning. All the new softwares and everything that you guys have. It's amazing. When you come from you know, we always are just like, oh, we have this concept, let's try to implement it. And then we come here and you have all kinds of concepts, systems, social media, different opportunities for us. So implementing those to take our business to the next level, obviously first, and really growing it with all the tools that you guys have, it's amazing.
Speaker 5:We've been blown away, yeah, from different styles of brokerages to having somewhere with so much support. Yes, has really helped us kind of polish our systems. Yeah, polish our day-to-day procedures in order to really quote-unquote elevate our clients experience all around. And one of the things that heather said the first time I met her that stuck with me so much is that we are here to provide a luxury experience to our clients at all price points, and that really rings true for us. Yes, when we get a you know, if I was going to go sell one hundred and twenty thousand dollar condo, I want that person to know that I'm treating them the same as a two million dollar condo on the beach. And that is really, I think, at the core of our business model. And having this platform to kind of give those services to our clients has been a game changer for us and it's only going to take us so much further, yeah.
Speaker 2:For me, you want to. You know, whenever someone says to me, well, I only sell luxury real estate, it literally there's something inside of me that just gets angry and I think it's because I never had the opportunity in most of my life, not until the last few years, to ever live in a luxury home or anything like that, and the fact that someone wouldn't work with me because I didn't have the money, like for me, it's like no, we will. We will always provide that same experience, no matter how much, any money, any amount of money someone has, because their money doesn't dictate who they are, 100% yeah.
Speaker 4:And I think that as a team we're great at finding solutions to when our clients maybe don't know how to find a way for ownership, or just we just had a client who the deal is kind of falling apart, and I always think it's thinking outside the box and getting creative to make sure you can accomplish those. You know the end goal for the client.
Speaker 2:And that's one thing I know about you, ladies, it's you are creative, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely it's. It's just been so fun to watch you guys just grow and you know, see you guys get settled and get to know you and I know big things are on the horizon or just so grateful that you guys agreed to be our. You know, episode one here Like this we started off with a bang Exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2:It off with a bang, exactly exactly.
Speaker 4:So if you could real fast, before we close this, say one thing to the viewer of something that has helped you pivot your mind to take your business to the next level, I think that, no matter what happens day to day or when a challenge arises, if you can just find the positive in it or find one positive in the situation whether it's already positive or if it's a negative you can find that positive. That can really just help you get to the end of that task or that day and it can get you to the next level. Just concentrating on the positive, because good karma, good energy always comes back to you if you're just concentrating on the positive, because it just good karma, good energy always comes back to you. If you're just concentrating on the positive. Agreed, what about you, nikki?
Speaker 5:Yeah, like is attracted to like. So if you go out in the universe and you really put out what you want to get back from everybody, I think that's just your first step into being successful, not only in business, but in parenting, in your friendships and your relationships with your family and people that you love, and with your relationship with yourself, because I think we're all our own worst enemy. And so really being able to hack your mindset and knowing yourself, knowing where you're falling short, to be able to come up with creative solutions, because it's all about being creative to get yourself to over that hump and into that next level.
Speaker 5:If you need to wake up every day and make a list because you're disorganized in your mind, wake up every day and make a list. Yeah, and it's just little things like that hack your mindset. Yeah, that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 3:That's good I would say that if you're scared, go for it. Yes, like anytime something scares me, you run to it, you're like you're doing what you should be doing and if you fail like I know for me, I failed so many times, but every time I fail, I come back up 10 times stronger. So, like, if you're scared, go for it and find the positives in that failure.
Speaker 4:There's always positives absolutely true.
Speaker 2:I, um, was it about four years ago I for some reason got quite a few fears and I started just running towards them to the point where my husband was like what are you doing? You're like torturing yourself. And I'm like, yes, but I feel like that's the only way you get over it. And now I don't have those fears anymore. Right, so I love that I over it, and now I don't have those fears anymore. Right, so I love that. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1:So smart. I did that with running at one point where I was like I hate running, my body hates it, and I'm like I'm just I'm going to do it, I'm not like a lean into it because sometimes I really well. No, I sometimes like to your point. I feel like when you have that feeling of scared or like it's out of your comfort zone, like you said, like you step in, you grow, something good is going to come out of that pain or that pushing.
Speaker 1:It's not like you could ever say running is like bad for you too, I mean, it's like. It's not like I'm you know talking about like drugs or smoking. I'm talking about running and it's like, or you know, like an opportunity that comes up or whatever. So I love that, guys. I mean I need to hack my mindset.
Speaker 2:I hacked your mindset. Yeah, I hated running so bad that I bought a 16-pound weighted vest to start running with that. I saw that, yeah, I love it. That's running. Have you guys ever tried?
Speaker 1:that I thought you were walking with that.
Speaker 2:I thought that would be awesome. No, be hard.
Speaker 1:No, I started running with it it's really fun, but you have to hold it because it bounces. It bounces. Yeah, just climb the mountains with it. Yeah, it's so fun. Well, thank you, oh, so much. This is so good, so good, yes, okay. So, guys, next up, we got more people coming into the studio and I have a feeling we're gonna see these gals again. We're gonna have to catch up with you and see where you are in six months, in a year, and we're gonna need an update because I know you're gonna do big things. So, thank you, guys, so much for being a part of this podcast thank you guys so much.
