Obstacles to Opportunities
When faced with life's obstacles, let's channel that negative energy into positivity and forge opportunities. Throughout the nation, business owners will share their experiences of triumphing over daunting challenges in their careers and lives, illustrating how they've harnessed these experiences for growth opportunities.
Obstacles to Opportunities
Giant Killers: Overcoming Life's Giants with Angi Jeffcoat
In this deeply moving episode, we sit down with Angi Jeffcoat, a former musician turned pastor with over 20 years of experience helping people heal from the pain of their past. Angi shares her powerful journey of overcoming childhood trauma, including growing up with a verbally abusive father and the emotional scars that lingered. With vulnerability, she opens up about how these experiences inspired her to write her transformative new book, Giant Killers.
Together, we dive into the themes of faith, resilience, and emotional health, exploring the role of self-awareness, forgiveness, and divine guidance in healing. This episode also touches on the challenges many face with anxiety, low self-esteem, and the pressures of raising confident children in today’s world. Angi’s story is one of triumph over adversity, and her insights offer hope and healing for anyone looking to slay the giants in their own life. Plus, don’t miss the personal testimony of how faith saved a life in an unexpected way. Listen in for inspiration, community strength, and a reminder that no giant is too big to conquer.
Find Angi's book, Giant Killers, here: Giant Killers on Amazon.
Welcome to the Obstacles Opportunities Podcast. I am Jess Powell, your host, and I am Heather Kane, your co-host. Guys, welcome to episode two, season two, and we're coming in hot with the guest.
Speaker 2:Oh my gosh. This is actually something that I'm super passionate about, because, you know, we are all about our faith over here. And to have a pastor in the house, 23 years of pastoring so many questions I have for you. Incredible church here in Southwest Florida. So I'm like so pumped.
Speaker 1:So I first met Angie at Ocean Church, so she hadn't met me yet. I saw her on stage and felt like I met her, and we had a mutual friend that said, hey, you guys should get coffee. So we got to know each other a little bit better, and so then that opened up the doors for me to invite her into the podcast. But I can't wait just to for the listeners to be inspired by you. You just recently authored your first book, giant Killers, which is amazing. And if I didn't say your name already, angie Jeffcoat, let's make sure to you know talk about who you are. So you're a mother. You are a former Disney performer. We're going to talk about that. Are. So you're a mother. You are a former Disney performer. Yes, we're going to talk about that.
Speaker 3:Yep, you have some stories. I bet Two daughters, yes, okay, yep, how old? 15 and 11.
Speaker 2:Okay, I have a 15-year-old. Right now, too, it's a journey Driving. She drove to school this morning.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, she did, yeah, oh, I know.
Speaker 2:That's a journey driving. She drove to school this morning. Yeah, oh, she did. Yeah, oh, I know that's a whole new era. That's a whole yeah, don't get me started, yeah oh gosh.
Speaker 1:So, um, I started reading your giant killers book. I would say, um, I just love how you it seems like taken kind of some things that have happened in your past and really like breathe life into it to inspire others to kind of, you know, overcome some of the things that you know you face, which were huge or massive in your life that you identified that were like holding you back. So our whole theme around obstacles opportunities is that you know, people face obstacles every day and they have a choice on how they want to overcome them. So I would love just to hear what inspired you to write the book, what really kind of gave you that vision for what you wanted to write.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, you know, I think really through the book I'm really kind of sharing my journey of emotional health and healing and just becoming a whole person again, you know, because I experienced this pain in my childhood and then I really suppressed it and compartmentalized it. I put walls around my heart, I did all these things to try to protect myself from further pain, you know, but it was very isolating. It was very, you know, and I was constantly around people but still feeling alone.
Speaker 2:I feel like so many people do, which is why we have such an issue with depression and anxiety these days. Yes, would you mind sharing some of the obstacles you had as a child?
Speaker 3:Yeah, absolutely so. I'm the oldest of five kids and grew up in a home where my dad was verbally and emotionally abusive and there was kind of the mindset of like, well, he's not beating us physically, so he's a good dad, you know, and I thought that all this was normal. And being the oldest too, I think there's a different dynamic, because you become protective, you know, of your siblings. So it was easier to forgive you know him calling me stupid or you know outbursts or whatever, but towards my siblings that was really hard. So childhood was that, was me trying to sort of protect them.
Speaker 3:And, you know, I found ways to cope. Like if he came home from work and the house was clean and dinner was cooked and the kids were quiet, maybe he wouldn't be in a bad mood or yell or, you know, go off. So that was childhood. And then I went off to college and I noticed that my body started to settle down, Like my, my nervous system, you know, started to calm down and I didn't even know that we had just been. I had been living on eggshells, you know. So, um, so I think that's when I first started to realize like, hey, I don't think that that was normal.
Speaker 1:You know, I'm like maybe that wasn't okay, like your body was telling you it wasn't normal yeah absolutely.
Speaker 3:It's interesting. Yeah, Our body is telling a story, you know, and we need to listen. Amen to that. Yeah, so I started to, I just started to kind of heal a little bit.
Speaker 3:In college I met my husband and my husband was just so calm and, you know, um, just so loving and and I think that helped me to, um, to heal a little bit. And I remember this moment when we were first married, I was doing the dishes and I broke a dish and I remember clenching and like waiting for my dad to run into the room, you know, and just start yelling and berating me for it and nothing happened and I realized, like that's never going to happen again. You know, it's okay, I'm free, yeah so. But then, you know, my siblings were still at home. My dad left the family in the most cowardly way possible, like tried to sneak out, you know, while everyone was at work and school and um, so the way I watched the way they were processing this pain, you know my mom was having panic attacks Um, it all kind of culminated with my little sister, the youngest, trying to take her life.
Speaker 2:Oh gosh.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was just. It was just so dark, you know, and so all of that, I just I didn't forgive my dad. You know, I put up walls. I didn't want to talk to him, didn't want to interact with him, didn't want him to see his grandkids talk to him, didn't want to interact with him, didn't want him to see his grandkids. And I was telling myself that I had forgiven him. But again, my body was telling a different story.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, and in your mind you're thinking you're protecting your children yeah, so that they don't experience the hurt that you've you experienced. Yeah, absolutely, but at the end of the day, you're not facing Right?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was. I was justifying, you know, I was making excuses um not to face something difficult, and so, you know, my body would react like if he called. If someone brought up his name, you know my blood pressure would rise and I would get angry. I wouldn't be able to let it go. So, again, my body was like telling this story.
Speaker 2:You know that I was living with this bitterness, don't we all have that? Sometimes your body can be triggered by just a name. Yeah, oh my gosh, I had that happen the other day, where someone mentioned someone's name and I, like, full on, felt my my blood pressure raise. I felt flushed, I felt like I had a hot flash, but it's like telling you there's like unresolved things, yeah.
Speaker 2:So how do you fake? Because I know, for me one of the things that I do is when I feel that way, I love to run towards I don't want to say run towards confrontation, but like address it, yeah. So how have you? How have you addressed?
Speaker 3:that. So I think I lied to myself for so many years, you know, and said that I had forgiven them, which I hadn't. Clearly, and it really wasn't until I, you know, one day, in my prayer time, I felt like God was nudging me to reach out to my dad and to try to approach reconciliation, and I fought against it. I didn't want that, you know. I didn't think my dad deserved that, but I didn't know I was punishing myself, you know, all the while. So, finally, at the end of that week, I said okay, you know, I'll reach out, but I need a little time to figure out what this looks like. Well, that Monday my dad died unexpectedly, so I never got to reconcile with him on this earth, you know. So his funeral really is what sent me into a journey of emotional healing, because at the funeral I would hear myself say things and I would be like that that didn't sound like me. You know that that was. That was unusually dark.
Speaker 2:So do you think God was giving you that nudge and you you purpose like if you could go back? I know for me in my quiet time we listened to the Holy Spirit. For me it's like, okay that that's there for a reason, so people need to be listening. And when they hear that you need to do something about it Because we don't know the future. But he does?
Speaker 3:Yeah, absolutely. So I try to encourage people, you know, if you feel that nudge, act on it right away, you know, because I wish I would have, but I think I didn't have the courage in that moment, you know. So that sort of launched emotional healing and me facing these giants that I had lived with for years and didn't realize you know, and so to be able and really and didn't realize you know, and and so to be able, and and really, like I like to explain, um, like my experience with counseling this way. What it felt like is like you're cleaning out your cabinets, you know, and you take everything out and you have to put it on the counters and like everything looks way worse when it's out of the cabinet.
Speaker 1:It works. It looks so much worse before you're like I didn't realize I had that much stuff in there, oh my gosh. And it's out of the cabinet. It works. It looks so much worse before it gets wet. I didn't realize it had that much stuff in there, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:And it's so dirty inside and where did this come from?
Speaker 1:I was hanging on to that from 1995 or whatever. Were you even born then, jess? I was born Heather. Goodness, I'm only a few years younger than you. Sorry, but no, I think that's, and I heard it in your book. You were talking about the voices and that was some of your baggage, right, like some of that was some of the things that you those were your I'd like to think of sometimes, like the red flags or the like, the, the things that came up where you were. You needed to pay attention to those and like where did they come from?
Speaker 3:Yeah, came up where you were. You needed to pay attention to those and like, where did they come from? Yeah, yeah, you know, and the thing is is that I think we're all dealing with these internal giants. You know, and I've seen like very successful CEOs and you know, it doesn't matter whether you're a man or a woman or it, just what your background is, everybody deals with these giants. You know anxiety, fear, low self-esteem.
Speaker 2:The name of your book is Giant Killers. Yes, it is, yeah.
Speaker 3:And because we can have victory.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so yeah, I think, whatever it is you know how did you go about tackling these giants? So first I had to face them. So I think that was the benefit of counseling. You know, and I highly recommend counseling I don't know why I waited so long to go you know, did you go through a faith-based counseling?
Speaker 2:I did, yeah, I think that that's so important, like if you are very strong in your faith, just making sure that you find someone who also believes in the same.
Speaker 3:Yes, yeah, yes, because you're at such a vulnerable place, you know. So, really, I mean, you could be given some crazy direction in that moment and you would listen to it because you're desperate, you know. So I think that counseling was a good step. I think listening to my body was a good step, you know, I think listening to my body was a good step. There are times when I'll feel anxiety, but it's not like big bad anxiety. It's a warning sign that I'm trying to control, something that I need to release. Amen.
Speaker 2:I mean, how many of us can say that right?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, it's not always like this big, you know spiritual thing, but but so I think, listening to those indicators, um, sometimes there's people that will come across your path. You know that they see you wrestling with these giants and you don't see it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1:I know it's like getting me really thinking, you know, and I I think one thing that you know as we've done this podcast, we've sat with a lot of just people let's say we're at 20 perhaps and I almost look at it like a little science experiment. I'm like how are people overcoming obstacles? And there are some themes, you know there are some themes I wonder and I'm curious about you know, you've been in ministry for 23 years what are the top obstacles that you find people coming to you like with, just in help, like, what are, what are some of the themes of things that you just see come up constantly with people?
Speaker 3:Yes, so definitely in this day and age, anxiety is huge. Yeah, you know that's, that's a big one, um and and with that, like I just want to say, like we have lived with it for so long, a lot of times that you just tell yourself, well, I'm just an anxious person, you know. And so the the chapter on anxiety, my, my friend, amy, her story is at the front of it and she was even, like you know, on anxiety medication, you know, on and off all throughout her life and she just had accepted, like this is the way I am, you know, and I feel like it's affecting so many young kids now.
Speaker 2:Absolutely yes, yeah'm. I believe right now we're in the era of fomo, because everyone sees everything right now, of everybody, yes, and it throws people into these anxiety and depression and plus the information overload.
Speaker 1:I really don't. I don't believe we were designed or made to have this much information.
Speaker 2:Yeah we have no time to calm our brains ever yeah.
Speaker 3:I think another one that was kind of surprising to me is low self-esteem, really. So that's the second chapter, and I've been surprised at the people that have been so courageous, you know, to come up to me and say, hey, that really spoke to me. You know I was.
Speaker 2:I was struggling with this in secret, you know, but like, let's talk about this you know, do you think low self-esteem is um lack, obviously lack of loving yourself, but also understanding who you are through God's eyes and the gifts God's given you, and like really leaning into those? Because I feel like that's for me when I see someone struggling with low self-esteem, I don't think that they've seen what God created in them yet. And it's like if and sometimes as an outsider, you can see it, they can't see it. It's like how do you, how do you get someone and people ask me that, like how did you understand your gifts God gave you? Like what would you say to someone like that?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think, leaning in to the word, to God in prayer, you know the Holy Spirit knows you, like God knows you better than you know yourself, so he can reveal what your strengths are. And and I think too, if you're asking him, if you're just saying God, I'm struggling with this, would you help me? You know he can also send people across your path, like you said, that they see it in you, like it's so clear to everybody else. Absolutely, you know, right, but maybe you've been comparing yourself to people and that can lead to low self-esteem. Yeah, you know, we just get so in our heads and having two daughters like this is very oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Right this is very relevant.
Speaker 2:Very relevant for our time. I'm going through it right now with a 13 and 15 year old. You know it's just like everybody. Oh, it's just this self making sure that they're self-confident. You know, with everything changing and with all the social media, I mean I feel like it's just devastating. I wish none of it existed. Yes.
Speaker 3:I think that I really could like just go into the woods and like be okay without social media. I want to live on a farm in Germany.
Speaker 1:It doesn't seem so bad right now. We just went through northern Indiana, we went through some of the Amish towns and I was telling my kids I was like they don't have electricity and they're like they had so many questions, right, and I'm like I mean, maybe that's not so bad, like maybe we all are just happier with candles and you know like no television. And yeah, we're not overstimulated. Yes, yeah, absolutely I know I. I was um.
Speaker 1:I think we've talked a little bit about some of the giants in our lives, I suppose over the podcast episodes. I think it's so fascinating that what you said about really listening to your body, listening to your voices, and I've had some very like embarrassing times where someone would ask me a question about someone that was very close with me and my family and my response was like, just, it was angry and I didn't know this person that well. You know, I decided to speak poorly about this person that's close with me and my family and I left. I knew he was an atheist and I left in my car. I was so convicted.
Speaker 1:I was like I did not represent Jesus well, I did not represent God well. My anger was literally just spewing off of me and I thought that I had forgiven, I thought I had set boundaries, I thought I was done with it, yeah, and then I thought I am not. I'm like carrying this. You know I've got a bag on my back, yeah, and I'm not. There's something here. So I agree with you that one of the more pivotal points of me turning some of that around was just like first recognizing you know, like you said the thoughts in your mind. What are you saying, yeah, and then like really facing it Like I don't want to be that person. Yeah, I don't want to be that person. I don't want to be the one with negative thoughts in my head, like that's not the story we're writing here.
Speaker 1:Right, that's not the story we're writing here. That's not my story, that's right. So I I've in times felt that and the way I got through it was I and I tell people this and they sometimes think I'm completely crazy but I try to envision this person like God would envision them. It's their gifts, their talents, what he poured into them, how he made them, and I just like would meditate on that, on the goodness of this person, and then I found myself releasing some of it. I was like, oh, they're human, they were made in God's image, like he had a plan for this person. He made some mistakes, like you. You can, you can gain some compassion for that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I had an interesting thing Um, so I've I've had some health, um struggles. So I, about five years ago, I was in the word and I was, um, I literally felt God speak to me and tell me I needed to get a colonoscopy. So I was like not even 40 years old, you know and I went to my and there's a story behind this. I went to a gastro doctor that was referred to me and he's like okay, what's going on? And I was like I, god told me to have a colonoscopy. And he was like. He looked at me, he was like what? And I was like yeah, I know that sounds weird, but like, and then he was asking me questions. He's like do you have this, do you have this? I'm like no, no, no, no. He's like so you have no symptoms? I was like no, I don't. And he's like well, let's just say you have something so that way we can have insurance. I hope my insurance company's not listening to this. And he ended up I had a colonoscopy and I had a 12 millimeter polyp in my colon.
Speaker 2:Wow, and if I had waited five years it would have killed me, oh, my word. And he said to me um, you listen when God speaks to you, because I kind of was like, yeah, this girl I mean whatever you know, but the long story, the long story short, is whatever you know, but the long story, the long story short is um, it's been a journey through my my health and yesterday I had a follow-up endoscopy and when I was finished with the endoscopy, you know, he came into visit me and he goes. Do you know that that day, in your office, you told me that God spoke to you, which is why you were here. He goes. I have never forgotten that and I want you to know that.
Speaker 2:That impacted me and I thought to myself like, wow, how many people don't share with other people because they don't want to be judged. That God spoke to me. But in that moment I don't know what came over me. But I told the doctor, like why do you need a clonox? Well, god told me to. But I told the doctor, like why do you need a clonox?
Speaker 3:Well, god told me to. I feel like you would only do that.
Speaker 1:you know if God told you to, yeah, and he's right on your, on the pad next to your name, like crazy.
Speaker 2:And then here here I go. It's like can you imagine so how many times? And those of you that are here, how many of you are searching for answers and not listening and not not truly getting in to? Like you said, god knows us better than anyone else. We just have to take a moment to be silent and listen.
Speaker 3:Yes, and if we pray and we ask him to bring healing to our hearts you know, healing from past wounds he will always be faithful to do that. You know you'll find yourself, you know, you know talking to somebody that you never thought. You know you'll be in the, in the doctor's office getting a colonoscopy.
Speaker 2:And you're like what is it? I guess it's been like six years now. He still remembers, you know, and you think like how did that impact him?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I always like the idea of, because sometimes I think you go through your life and you're like no one noticed. You know you can the low self-esteem talk like no one's paying attention, nothing I'm doing is mattering. But I love the thought of just like the seed planters, you know, just like planting little seeds around. You never know if you're faithful and you can live in your faith or speak kindness to someone. It's just like a little tiny seed.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know. Well, you guys are bringing up such a good point too that our giants, if they're unaddressed, they impact the people around us. Yeah, you know, and even the people that we love, I mean think about.
Speaker 2:The people that we love I mean think about love the most is usually who's impacted by the giant.
Speaker 3:I mean your children. You know your spouse, like the people in your life that, um, that you want to be there for they are going to be impacted by your unaddressed giants because you're taking them with you wherever you go. You know so, this doctor. You're taking them with you wherever you go. You know so, this doctor. You know, whenever you went in for the colonoscopy, by faith, you know, like you, you were ministering to him.
Speaker 2:You know so so I think people need to speak up. Yes, you know cause? I thought I could have easily said, oh, I have this, that's why I'm here today. But instead I was like no, god spoke to me, like yep, I'm okay, I. If you think I'm crazy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about it right, let's talk about it. That. What you just said, though, about your giants being like impacting those around you, I mean that holds some weight. You know you can go around your life and say like, well, I'm not dealing with it, I'm suppressing it, but it's my thing to carry and I'm okay with that. I'm strong, I'm dealing with it in my own time, or whatever, but that creates some urgency. Yes, because I mean the people that we love the most, right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if you're not going to do it for yourself, do it for your kids, right you know. Do it for your legacy, right yeah.
Speaker 2:My father was Marine Corps so he was militant. You know, most amazing, incredible man served our country proud, but he was militant. And so I find myself that even my oldest daughter said to me yesterday she's like Mom, you need to let up a little bit, because I can be militant, because that's how I was raised. We, we, we do mimic the behaviors of the people we are. So I mean for you, I mean that had to have been with raising two girls so hard.
Speaker 3:Yes, yeah, I think that, uh, for years I probably erred on the other side of like not addressing things with them that I should have addressed, because I was just so afraid that I was going to come across. You know, you like swung the other way almost yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, and because I hadn't really seen it modeled In a healthy way, In a healthy way, in a balanced way, right, yeah, you know. So I needed to deal with this in myself, just so that I could, you know, address the things, even with my kids, that I needed to address in a healthy way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, aren't kids just like mirrors into like the worst parts of you?
Speaker 3:Yeah, Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1:Yes, and I mean I mean just like, I'm just like I love them so much. And I mean I mean just like I'm just like I love them so much. Kids, I love you, if you're listening, I love you so much. But I mean it just. It pulls out all the gunk sometimes and you're like, oh, I have a temper about this, or I, I, this really pushes my buttons, you know, and you do start seeing some patterns from when you were raised, Because that's what you knew, right, that's where we dig back into for our toolbox. We're like, yeah, well, this is how they dealt with it, whether it was good or bad, and I always, I seriously I'm like we need more parenting courses. Yeah, I need more parenting support.
Speaker 2:I mean I'm sure they have that at Ocean's Church, jeff we do.
Speaker 3:actually, we have a really great parent to just sign up, do you like?
Speaker 2:that plug. That was great Nice plug.
Speaker 1:All right, they're trying to get me to go to church, guys.
Speaker 2:You go to church.
Speaker 1:I do, but I mean, you know, getting it plugged into all the other extracurriculars. I would say I actually talked to Angie about this. I feel somewhat guilty in my season of life right now.
Speaker 3:I felt guilty.
Speaker 2:I was just saying that to my pastor. I'm like, because we traveled so much all summer, I feel so unplugged, and when I'm unplugged I actually I feel like everything in my life is not working right.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like you need this community, jess, I know. Tell her.
Speaker 3:Tell her.
Speaker 1:I'm in community, I sit really close to you every day, no, but I do know I mean and I'm sure anyone who's listening I actually came to you about this a little bit. I was kind of teary. I'm like you know, there's a season you can look back in your life and be like I was kind of in sync then with where I feel like God wanted me and you know, you, you you always want to feel that right. And then, and then, sometimes, like life throws some things at you that make it very difficult, like I was helping an aging grandmother who passed this year and, you know, a new job, new industry. It's just like, yeah, things happen Right and you have to like stop and recalibrate.
Speaker 3:Yes, and there's grace, you know like you just need to remember. There's grace. We don't, none of us, need to take on guilt surrounding this. You know what I mean? We're literally talking about overcoming these giants, you know, and one of them is guilt and shame. So let's not shame ourselves Like we're already, you know, being shamed by the enemy. So so you don't need to feel any guilt, and in the right timing, I know you'll do that guys.
Speaker 1:A pastor just told me that I'm good. No, but I I really appreciate your perspective and just I mean I can just tell you have. You have the ability like if someone sits in front of you, you instantly make people feel comfortable. You're a wisdom speaker. You are just like when you you pray, you have like the gift of prayer. I mean it's just, it's amazing. So this book is such a gift. I really hope people will get it. I'm excited to read. I know heather got a copy.
Speaker 2:I did get a copy how? Did everybody get a copy of this you can purchase it on amazon.
Speaker 3:She's on amazon, guys, it's called giant killers.
Speaker 2:Yesers. So it is a beautiful blue. You're going to see an image of it. We're going to make sure we have it up there, but it is. Yeah, go ahead and grab your copy.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's a good first step. I think, goodness, if we've got that, what you said about having a responsibility of everyone around us, that really hit home to me. Okay, wait before we get off, because I feel like I teased this. Now we've got to talk about it. Okay, performing at Disney World? Yes, okay, let's hear it. Tell us everything. What's it?
Speaker 3:like. So when my husband and I first got married, we were starving musicians, you know, living the dream, going from gig to gig and working at like the mall part-time to like pay our bills, you know, in between. And then we landed some gigs at Disney, which was so exciting. So my husband was at Epcot and he was in Morocco, and they were the Mo Rockins you gotta love the Disney men and I was doing a show out at Animal Kingdom in Camp Mini Mickey, and we were the happy campers, okay. And so I would do like my five sets or whatever, and then I would drive over to Epcot, I would catch my husband's last set and then we would go eat dinner in France. It was so romantic, there was pre-kids. That's amazing.
Speaker 2:That's so fun. Now have you always been in Florida?
Speaker 3:I was born in Jacksonville, grew up in Texas and then met my husband, you know, in college, and then we moved to Orlando because that's where the work was for musicians.
Speaker 2:And then you had the pastor route. Yes, yeah, wow, it's very true. Well, okay, so if you are local in Southwest Florida, ocean's Church is located.
Speaker 3:We are off of, we're 22100 South Tamiami Trail. Oh, good job, Okay good job, so where?
Speaker 2:are those intersections, that is Tamiami. That's 41. Is that like Corkscrew and 41?.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Corkscrew and 41 right near the Chick-fil-A. Okay, I can't get to Chick-fil-A.
Speaker 1:Get a chicken sandwich or no. You can on Sundays, you can on. Sundays Sorry never mind, just drive by, wish you had one and go to church. Yes, yes, that's what I normally do.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you so much for being part of our podcast. We love it.
Speaker 1:This is so good, guys. We're going to link giant killers and you guys have to check it out, um, or check out ocean church it's. It is a place where I immediately walked in and felt like home, so I one more plug.
Speaker 2:Ocean's Church is where you guys were a blessing. During the hurricane. I worked out of Ocean's Church for like a week. Oh that's amazing. Because you guys hosted all of the supplies for us. We did all of our deliveries there for generators, oh so many generators.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, keller, williams, keller.
Speaker 2:Williams. Were they incredible, they were so they brought in just semis of supplies and you guys were so gracious to open that up for us. So yeah, I didn't even like you didn't connect the dots, I didn't connect the dots, but yes. I lived at Ocean's Church in that whole week because I was making sure everyone had generators and supplies.
Speaker 1:So yeah, it was such a great effort. I went over there to see it and it was pretty amazing. I love seeing like the church in action. Yeah, it's like one of my favorite things.
Speaker 3:Me too, and like I just have to say like during that time, all the churches came together and that was so beautiful, and when you showed up to clean out someone's house that had been flooded, it didn't matter what church you're a part of.
Speaker 2:You were just a part of, like, god's church, yeah, so, um, let's do that more guys, we do, we do it, love it. Community right there.
Speaker 1:Really appreciate it, angie. Thank you. We'll have to have you back and maybe the next book, right, yes?
Speaker 2:Maybe I mean, I know you're laying low for now.
Speaker 1:No, pressure, but maybe right, yes, let's go, all right, Thanks, guys.
