Obstacles to Opportunities
When faced with life's obstacles, let's channel that negative energy into positivity and forge opportunities. Throughout the nation, business owners will share their experiences of triumphing over daunting challenges in their careers and lives, illustrating how they've harnessed these experiences for growth opportunities.
Obstacles to Opportunities
Built to Rise: How Vicki Paquette Turned Setbacks Into Strength
In this powerful episode of Obstacles to Opportunities, hosts Jess and Heather welcome Vicki Paquette—REALTOR®, entrepreneur, and former personal trainer—whose journey is nothing short of extraordinary. From building a fitness business in her early 20s to surviving cancer, navigating chronic illness, and pivoting fearlessly into real estate, Vicki opens up about the hardships that shaped her—and the mindset that helped her rise.
She shares raw and real insights on grief, resilience, reinvention, and the drive to keep going when life throws its hardest punches. Whether you’re facing your own uphill battle or craving inspiration to take a leap of faith, this episode will remind you that adversity can be the starting line—not the end.
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Welcome to the obstacles to opportunities podcast. I am Jess.
Speaker 2:Powell, your host, and I am your co host, Heather Kane, and.
Speaker 1:Vicki Paquette is in the house to actually not in the house, she is remote in her house, which in her house, and so we are going to, you know, just introduce you to this amazing colleague that I met, gosh. I don't know how long ago it was, but Vicki and I were both kind of career changing around the same time into real estate. We met and she had owned a gym previous to starting her real estate business. She was passionate about flipping homes and investing in homes. At that time we were sharing our love for design schools that she had faced just getting to this point in her story. I was shocked and inspired and all the things. So I just can't wait for you guys to meet her.
Speaker 2:Yes, so I would love for you to introduce yourself, vicki, to the audience and share a little bit about yourself, is that okay?
Speaker 3:Yeah, absolutely so. I am Vicki Paquette. I'm a realtor with Lair Realty Partners up in Massachusetts, southeastern Mass. My husband and I and our 12-year-old son live in Carver, massachusetts, which is just borders Plymouth, so America's hometown Nice, so, born and raised in this area, always been in Massachusetts. Sometimes I wonder why, but I do love it and, yeah, it's been a journey. We'll find out, I guess.
Speaker 1:Okay, so I love your entrepreneurial spirit. I mean, when we first met, you had career change from the gym industry and you were going to venture out and do something a little scary, which is, you know career change and you have a family, you know you have a lot of things that you know to hold together to career change. It's not like being 20 and having like this carefree attitude. It's like I'm making a big switch, and so we were kind of talking about that. But what I'd love to do is some people will look at you know entrepreneurs, and they just think, oh, you know, they're skating through life. It's so easy for them. You know, I see on the outside what Vicki's accomplished, because she actually has, like her real estate career kind of took off. She's done amazing. I've seen all her listings and closings this year. In a market where typically people are down, what 20? Yeah, at least.
Speaker 3:At least 20.
Speaker 1:Yeah, 20% down and you're like thriving. So people Same, are you?
Speaker 2:though. Well, I mean, you've had more closing your first quarter than last year, girl, so I'll toot her horn real, real quick your real estate career take it out.
Speaker 1:But we, you know, we just, we really just jived over our philosophies with business and things like that. But what I'd love to talk about is take us back, like take us back to a time people may be surprised to hear how you got to that point, right. Like take us back to a time where, um, you know there's a couple that you mentioned what has been one of the biggest obstacles that you face getting to where you are. Because we want to dig into those, we want to get into the real nitty gritty.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, I guess kind of sticking with that entrepreneurial mind. So I've always struggled with ADD my entire life but never knew. Because, you know, in women it's it shows different. In girls, through school it shows differently. And my parents, my parents, immigrated here from Portugal in their 20s and just didn't. They gave us everything we needed but they didn't kind of dig into that side of things. So from their perspective it was like go to school and you just suck it up and you do it and you know you're just hyper, right. Well, so for in girls it's the opposite Like we're not hyper, oh really, okay, disinterested, like either all in or all out, okay, and it just kind of became like oh, you're just lazy or you don't have discipline, because you can't suck it up and do the things that you're not interested in and that you know that kind of that kind of idea of like you have to really like it and that's just a discipline problem, right, it's a kind of spoiled laziness, discipline, yeah.
Speaker 2:Huh, yeah. So how did that pivot and change that? You really understood that that's something that you faced, and how I mean gosh to think that that you would be undisciplined, but all that you've accomplished? Obviously, discipline is the number one thing. You need Discipline and consistency to accomplish what you've accomplished. So how did you overcome that?
Speaker 3:It was my second attempt at college that made me realize like there might be a problem here. I think I might need to like go talk to somebody. And that's when I finally like went talk to a psychologist and they were like I'll just never forget the look on his face when he's like no one's thought maybe you might have an issue with ADD and could get some help. Like it's all new to me. So that's when I really started understanding and having more grace with myself about what I dealt with and how I felt about things and my motivation and ups and downs, and really attempted to work with it. And just you know, I did try medication for a while and I just didn't. I didn't feel like myself, so it was just back shift of like okay, I need to really embrace the way my brain works and work with that, because there is a place for that. And digging into all the other entrepreneurs of the world and you kind of find like musicians and artists and entrepreneurs they all tend to struggle with those things as well.
Speaker 2:They're all dyslexic or have ADD. It's in hand, it's crazy how much?
Speaker 1:Yeah, it does, I didn't hear about that. I mean it's like the creative brain, right, I do. It's all one's little neurodivergent, you know, like you're not just the cookie cutter, you know.
Speaker 3:But what is cookie?
Speaker 1:cutter Right. What's a cookie? Cutter brain anyway.
Speaker 3:I mean, nobody wants to fit in a box. Jess, no, who decided what the box looks like?
Speaker 1:Right, I know it's through the box, it so through the box, but it's like, you know, it's the institution, it's schooling, it's, you know, like if you're not normal or going through school in the normal way, that makes you different, right, or you don't understand things the way that typical people learn things, right. And I think what you said was interesting, which I've experienced. It's like in the 80s they weren't labeling stuff like they are now. Like in my mom had no clue what anxiety was. No idea, no clue. That wasn't a thing to have anxiety. And it's like I had all the signs, you know, and symptoms, but it was just oh, you have a nervous stomach, you're blah, blah, blah, you know.
Speaker 2:Well, we laugh. My daughter's dyslexic and when my husband was talking to my mother-in-law he's like yeah, mom Reagan got diagnosed with dyslexia. She goes oh yeah, you have that, he goes. What do you mean? He goes oh yeah, you got diagnosed about the same age. And he's like you didn't think to tell me or like, did I get anything? She's like no, we didn't want you to feel like you were stupid. And he was like okay, like first off, dyslexia and stupid do not. They're actually not at all related. But it's like the mentality then was like you're fine, suck it up. You might have a little bit more difficulties, but move on Like it's just now. We actually dive in and try and understand how we can help people yeah.
Speaker 2:How we can help people. So how did you take that diagnosis? And then, knowing what you knew then about yourself, how did you pivot that as a strength to help you grow in your business?
Speaker 3:I quickly learned that a 9 to 5 sitting behind a desk, being told when I had to be at work and when I could take a break, wasn't going to work for me. And I learned like I loved being physical. So when it came to starting the gym, I really excelled and did really well when I could be physical, because it makes sense, you know, looking back on it like okay, like you're releasing all those endorphins and that's what somebody with ADD truly needs is working with that and the creative piece of it. So that's when I really just I found my home in the gym. I loved it. I loved having that control over myself and being able to help people and it was just this natural progression into personal training. But I still felt like I wanted that bigger, just that the challenge. I've always been somebody that loves challenges, that tackles them, and if somebody tells me no, like that's the oh, I'm going to do it.
Speaker 1:Oh, heck yeah, that's how Heather is too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you tell me I can't do something. It's like game on baby.
Speaker 3:Exactly so. That's yeah. So I started working in a gym with the idea of okay, I know I want to do something for myself. Do I want to own a big gym? A small gym, let me just learn the ins and outs of it. So I worked at like a full scale gym for a while and then shifted gears and worked in a small personal training studio gym for a while, and then shifted gears and worked in a small personal training studio. And then that's when my intention was to learn all like what to do, how to run a business, and I learned all the things not to do, which is equally as important, I guess it is Absolutely. It's.
Speaker 3:Very shortly after starting with them and having to commute 45 minutes to work at 530 in the morning, I found out from a client that the studio was going out of business. They were finally for bankruptcy. So I had I was living on my own, renting an apartment with a friend I had just started dating, justin, who's now my husband, and it was right after Thanksgiving. So we had just run this massive Thanksgiving promotion for everybody, for all of our clients, and brought in all these new clients. And then, the start of December, I got a phone call from one of my clients saying I'm so sorry this is happening. This is such a terrible time for this to happen. No clue. What are you talking about? Oh boy, I got the letter from the owner that you guys are shutting down, you know, as of December 31st. It's like.
Speaker 2:They didn't tell any of the employees. That's called poor leadership right there. That's tired of him.
Speaker 3:Wow. So I called my manager and he had literally like just found out seconds before I called him, so he was all thrown off and yeah, that was just like OK, what do I do? I have to pay rent. I have this. Like I don't have anywhere to go. My family isn't here. My dad had moved back to Portugal at that time. My mom was up in New Hampshire. Like I have this boyfriend that I just started dating. I'm not going to go move in with him. Like what do I do?
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're like hey, what do you think about?
Speaker 2:moving in with each other. So is that when? Because I saw I hate to say the C word, but I had it too that ends with an R. When did that hit? Was that between this career change of gym to real estate, like what?
Speaker 3:Tell us a little bit about that was so that I started. I ended up um taking some of my clients leaving, starting the personal training studio and actually Justin at the time was like let's do this, like and you guys weren't married at the time.
Speaker 1:You're just like gonna be business partners.
Speaker 3:He is so like type a accountant like analyzes every little thing that he does. So I I was shocked when he's like I've always wanted to run a business, sure. Well, it's like let's do it Wow.
Speaker 1:Was there a moment where you're like, if it's not going to work out with this guy, this could be a total train wreck?
Speaker 3:Yeah, we made sure to have things on paper of like hey, listen, this is going to be my livelihood. You have a real job. Yes, something livelihood, you have right. Real job like yes, something happens like you sell this to me for a dollar like there's no, yeah, yeah, 100 percent, um, but yeah, so then that the whole cancer scare situation that that was later on, like after I had had my son, um, okay, that's what I was asking.
Speaker 2:How long did you work? I started my gym in 2009.
Speaker 3:Okay, 2009.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I had my son in 2012. Okay, and then it was sometime around like 2018, 2017, 2018 that I just went for my regular annual exam and then, like a couple of weeks after that, got the phone call of you know, your test came back abnormal, and I don't even know the language that they use because you know, you just kind of chat by app and my doctor and I don't know if this was the right approach, but he kind of was like this is very common, like don't worry if this was the right approach. But he, like you know, he kind of was like this is very common, like don't worry about it, we can take care of it, but I do need you to come into the office. And he had told me about like whatever the name was of something. So he kind of talked me down and I was like all right, like I'll go in. I didn't bring Justin with me, cause in my mind I was like it's fine, this is a common thing, like easy fix, whatever. I'll just go in and talk to him because he has to talk to me in person. So I get in there. And then he's like okay, I didn't want to tell you all of it over the phone.
Speaker 3:There's two types that came back on your tests and the concern is that you know I've always had annual exams that you went from totally normal exams every year to suddenly this aggressive, abnormal, two different types of cancers in there. So that's not like, that's concerning. So he essentially told me, like you need to decide now, like if you're not done having kids, like you kind of need to like have a kid now and we have to monitor you incredibly closely and like immediately have surgery after that. So it was just and my natural reaction to like big news is to just freeze, like I kind of like go blank and I'm just it's like deer in headlights.
Speaker 3:So I just like sat there for a while and then I just remember being like looking at him, looking at him, being like I'm going to lose it, and then I just like totally lost it. That was yeah. And then you just don't know and like in the moment you're just taking it all in and like okay, I have to make decisions. And then the drive home was like now I have to call Justin and like what do I do? He was at work. So I was like I just need you to come home, we need to talk and, of course, like any husband is going to be like no, like you need to tell me now, yeah.
Speaker 2:So yeah, so that was scary, that is scary. Did you so? Did you have another baby?
Speaker 3:No, no, no, we weren't sure. I mean, we were kind of feeling like we weren't going to, but it was. It was like that, like I don't know if I want to and I certainly don't want to Because I'm being forced to and I have to. What's that pregnancy going to be like? Like freaked out the whole time. What if there's complications? I don't know, does anything pass to the baby? Like, does that cause risks? Yeah, it was just. It was so much to think about and take in. I just I couldn't imagine something that's supposed to be, you know, joyful during a pregnancy having that meaning over my head.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree. I mean, I feel like and please share what your thoughts are is, when I got the diagnosis, you know, they said I needed to come in, just like that, but they said, like you need to bring your support system. Oh my. And when I heard those words, that's when I freaked out. Oh yeah, and literally like everyone showed up my sister, my brother-in-law, my fiancee at the time, my parents. I had my entire room full of people. I don't know what's better, honestly, because it was so emotional having so many people in that room and everyone takes it differently. I almost felt like it would have been better being by myself.
Speaker 2:I know that sounds terrible. My mom freaked out. Yeah, so you're dealing with other people's emotions. It was like I couldn't process my own emotions because I was dealing with everybody else's. You know it's like I would agree with that.
Speaker 3:Like I was fine, like I prefer to be by myself in the moment. It was the drive home, yeah, that made it. That was like, okay, I guess I would have preferred someone else driving me right now, yeah.
Speaker 2:You know it's interesting. I was having a conversation with my daughter last night. She's 16 and you know she's going through all these ups and downs of relationships and she's having hard times and I said, listen, god gave me cancer in my 20s and I know that he gave that to me because he was preparing me for something way bigger in my life and he needed to give me strength, confidence and understanding of who I am and what I'm capable of, in order to prepare me for the next thing in life. And do you feel like sometimes, like the curse is a blessing, Like you've taken to see what you've accomplished from that to where you are today and I know that you're filming some great things that you can't really talk about but you have so many incredible opportunities. Don't you feel like that was almost a pivotal moment in your life where you're like, ok, tomorrow's not guaranteed.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, it makes everything so real all of a sudden and you just realize how fragile everything is and forces you to to just. You know, it's like the cliche to think about what's important, yeah, but, um, you know, I think everything that we face I don't know if I believe that it's like meant to be or not meant to be, so much as we always have the choice of what do you do with it like things are always going to happen. Nobody's immune, so you have to. There's always good and bad with all of it. So what do you do with it? Do you have a pity party?
Speaker 2:I know, you know maybe for a little bit.
Speaker 3:Sometimes you just call a friend and you have a little quick pity party and then you're like I'm done and then you go right yeah, I mean, there's something to be learned from everything, from even the most horrific experiences. So I think it happened, so we have to utilize it, get something from it. Otherwise it just was a crappy moment, and so I think it happened, so we have to utilize it, get something from it. Otherwise it just was a crappy moment.
Speaker 1:And what's the point? Yeah, exactly, I remember whenever I was in high school I had two people in my family pass away within like 11 months of each other and it was just like terrible. And they were young, they were my stepbrothers, and I remember, like writing in my journal, I'm like you know it is a gift to truly understand, like your own. Like your own oh my gosh, what's the word? I said it so nicely in my diary, but like it's a gift to know how fragile life is. That's the, you know the guts of it. It's it's, it's a gift to understand that because you can look at everything with a different lens. Right, you do. You're like, okay, you know this is not all guaranteed, tomorrow is not guaranteed, so like, what am I gonna do with it today? You know, like there's so many people I feel like that can kind of maybe haven't had that brush yet, that really, you know it's like we're put here on this earth, we have this breath today.
Speaker 2:What the heck, are we going to do? I'm going to be like what's your plan? Yeah, where are you going? Like, what's what do you? What do you do? What do you want to accomplish? What do you want to be known for? What?
Speaker 1:are you?
Speaker 2:It. It's like are you, you know? It's like, go do it, go do it, because tomorrow's not guaranteed, you know. And so let's hear I'm, I'm curious, okay. So you, I know I'm curious.
Speaker 1:So yeah, yeah, do you guys. I don't know if you can see uh her evil hands.
Speaker 2:So you, when did you? So you, when did you make that shift to real estate? And yeah, so how did that come about?
Speaker 3:the shift to real estate happened over covid, um, so I had I had had my gym for 14 years, going on 14 years, but that's when I sold it. Um and my husband was in corporate, so he was the controller for a property management company and it was it was quite literally killing him like he was so stressed out all the time like he, so he would come like he would literally have a hole in his head and he just he had made a plan of like he needed to get out of it and covid really pushed that into happening faster and he's always like he's always done stuff to our houses, like got in the house, like the house he lived in initially and fixed it all up. So he's always loved doing it. So that was his plan of like to get in flipping houses. That's what he wanted to do and I was getting tired doing what I was doing. It was, I kind of, I think, maybe because I didn't set things up right in the beginning to really excel things the way I wanted to, because I didn't know what I didn't know at the time and I was ready for a change too. But it was also like he. He jumped in when we were just dating and supported me with the gym and like, really he let that be mine, like he let that be my baby and he was the finance and the help behind it and this was.
Speaker 3:I felt like it was his turn, like he had put his body through so much with the hours he was working and doing something he just didn't love. And I knew what it was like to work my butt off and be up at the butt crack of dawn and, you know, be at the gym from 5.30 am until 8 pm. But I loved it. It was that like I'm working just as much as you, but I love what I'm doing, and that you're immigrants, right, yeah, like you're coming home with a hole in your head over it. Like that sucks, that is not, like it's not a way to live. So that was that decision of like, okay, we're gonna make this major life change. He's gonna get out of corporate. He launched his business, our business flipping um. But I also knew like I need to do something for myself. I'm an entrepreneur at heart, you know.
Speaker 2:Strong woman need to make my own money I think we're all in that same boat, yeah yeah, we're in good company here.
Speaker 3:The whole thing that aligns with what he was doing too, so we wouldn wouldn't be pulled into different directions, cause you know, like running your own business, it's, it's, it becomes your life. So, yep, you know, it was just easier. I'm like all right, I want. I know my passion is helping people. I love helping people. I love being on my feet, moving around, doing things, having my hands in a lot of different creative aspects too in a lot of different creative aspects too.
Speaker 2:We're the same way. So yeah, I know, cut from the same cloth, girl.
Speaker 3:It made sense, like I can do this for myself. It fits perfectly with what he's doing. We can work together, still have our separate things as well.
Speaker 2:Like you also have this entire clientele and database that you've built owning your own business for the last 14 years, so you had an incredible network to tap into.
Speaker 3:Yeah and that. So that network has been huge also for him because, as he's, as he's been building this flip business, he takes side jobs in between and, like all of those clients, have come from my client base of the people that the relationships I built. So it's been a really cool shift to see, like here's, these people that I was so afraid of losing contact with and not having that connection with when I sold the gym, but now, like they've built a connection with and it's almost making that a deeper connection, because now it's like it's not just me, it's a family and he hopefully has a full head of hair now.
Speaker 3:Well, it doesn't stress.
Speaker 2:Dang it. I was going to say alopecia is gone, right.
Speaker 3:I know alopecia is gone Now. It's just more of like an even.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, that's fine, I know. Now it's just more of like an even.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, that's fine. You know, worry, that happens with all. My husband's always like is it going back further, babe? I'm like no, babe, it looks great. It's like come on, man, that's my pieces right here.
Speaker 3:Exactly. It's been really cool. So the state piece has been fun.
Speaker 2:The design aspect of it, you know getting to know you guys with the style to design stuff, that's been awesome nice yeah, I know I'd love to chat more about with you on about that offline, because I'd love to be, you'd be a voice for me, because you know I run that business, I own it, but I'm always loving feedback so I can become better and teach and train my team to be better. So would love some of that, definitely offline, but we love that you're utilizing that. So share with us how this opportunity came about. With some. I know you can't talk a lot about it, so we're just gonna tease about some filming and what a lot about it, so we're just going to tease about some filming and what, so I can't say what the show is, okay okay, sounds like three words rhymes with no.
Speaker 1:I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3:Okay, keep talking there might be a bit of a floral scent to the name Okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right.
Speaker 3:So this current flip that we are, that we just started, is in a little beach community in Plymouth, so it's a neighborhood that has deeded access to the beach. It's right on Sagamore beach. It's beautiful and the owner of the home, when they when she was selling it, she's actually the one that reached out to me and had put me in touch with these people. She's like hey.
Speaker 1:Oh, so you were like kind of nominated almost for it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it was so they had. I guess they had reached out to her because they wanted to film in her house just to use it as like they do, like comp homes, so just to like fill in on a different show that they were doing. And they asked her if they could just film in her house when she was selling it and she said no, because it just didn't have any benefit to her. But then when we got under agreement to buy it, she was looking at my social media and then reached out and said, hey, this seems like something that could be up your alley. Let me forward you the email and get you in touch with them. So she did and they asked me like do you mind if we film in the house? And I said no, like I don't want you to because that's no benefit to me, but we're going to be renovating it. Yeah, Is that something you're interested in?
Speaker 3:And then it just all snowballed from there. They had they were going to be in the area already and that project ended up falling through. So they had crew members ready to work and know where to go. So we were able to get it going, because my husband was like this project can't be slowed down. We need to get in and get started and get back on the market for prime summer season. Our summer season up here is very short, so I can't wait for them to go through the process and start filming. So it was like within a week. It was just.
Speaker 2:That's wonderful, that's exciting.
Speaker 3:It came on the Zoom tomorrow Interview. Let me cruise out. And we've been filming for the last three weeks. Wow, there's a crew at the house right now filming with them and they're just following the whole process, I can't wait to watch it.
Speaker 2:So we'll have to tell the viewers that they have to stay tuned. They do. It's a floral scent. We can't disclose the network or the show, but you got to follow Vicki on social media and if you want to buy, sell in her area, she's your girl, right, yep.
Speaker 3:Southeastern Mass, plymouth County, especially parts of Bristol County and even like Upper Cape, absolutely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or Cape, okay, I remember you saying that, okay, and then you've got to Just over the bridge. Just over the bridge Okay, I've never been there, I haven't been over the bridge, but I'm sure other people that would be buying there would know just over the bridge, if I said it to them. They would know, they, they would know, they would know. But no, yeah, if anyone hasn't, though, please follow Vicki what I love about her and I, like she put me on this Marco Polo, where we have like a master, mini mastermind group of people that we're chatting with. But I love your creativity, vicki. I love that.
Speaker 1:Thank you so much for just kind of opening up about your backstory, because a lot of people see the success and have no clue what it took to get there. You know, and it's, it's. It's often not an easy road. I don't know if we've interviewed one person so far. We're on episode what, at 29 or something. We have yet to interview someone successful to say, oh yeah, super easy getting here. Yeah, leave it to be of a fat childhood yeah, everything was great.
Speaker 2:It was great like no was great.
Speaker 3:Like no, there's always obstacles and you get to the point where, if things are going really smoothly, you start kind of like, ooh, is the bomb about to drop? Yeah, it's going to happen, don't get too excited.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean it's life right, but I'm so inspired this is like one of my favorite days of the week. Like I love sitting down with people like you that completely inspire me through kind of what you've gone through and where you're going, and I just see great things for you in your future. I mean I'm so honored to like call you a friend and you know I just love what you're doing, so just keep it up. We've never actually like met in person, yet I know.
Speaker 3:Me and I have never met in person yet. I know mecca and I had never met in person. No, no, no, like I like I honestly consider you like, of course, like just as a friend. Yeah, I've known you forever. Like, yeah, I prefer people down there. Like, oh my god, yeah, like she was like carrie feels great. And then, yes, how long have you known her? I'm like I don't know a couple years, like, do you?
Speaker 2:see her. I've never actually hung out with her. Well, she's super lovable. You will fall in love. I'll squeeze you real hard.
Speaker 1:We're going to hug real hard when you get here. Just get ready for it.
Speaker 3:I know going down there.
Speaker 2:You need to come for our grand opening. We're going to have a huge grand opening with our new building. We need to have you come down.
Speaker 1:Vicky has actually tried to come but hurricanes have prohibited her twice. She has signed up for your workshops.
Speaker 2:It's been terrible, so we're going to make it happen. It's got to happen. You're coming.
Speaker 3:I definitely want to chat with you about.
Speaker 2:I'm going to get your number from from Justin.
Speaker 3:We're going to make that happen, for sure, there are some other plans brewing and I I'm admitting that I don't know what I don't know, but I think you know.
Speaker 2:I know, I don't know what I don't know, but I know you tell her face.
Speaker 3:She knows. You need to get in that head and I need to learn the things that you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just get ready. Buckle up, vicki. Okay, it's going to be a wild ride when you get in her head, all right.
Speaker 2:It's kind of scary. I'm sure I have ADD, dyslexia, I think I have all the things, but you know.
Speaker 1:But that's the thing. It's like why she's so brilliant at what she does. But it's also like buckle up, you thought you were creative and had a lot of energy. Nope, nope, you don't. Yeah, because she's like on to next.
Speaker 3:That other. Are you like her balance? You definitely need that.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I don't. I don't say you're my balance, I think diane's your balance.
Speaker 1:I think like or sarah's your balance, like we're, we're definitely more like ying and ying, or yeah, we're less, yeah, let's go.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure, I'm her. Uh rally.
Speaker 1:I'm like, let's go we we have a lot of similar get or strengths. I'd say yeah, but, um, yeah, so we're, we're, we're ying and ying. Yeah, ying and ying, we're the ying yings, we're the ying ying sisters, with matching butt cuts. I know, yeah, we were saying we're like we both have butt cuts. What is wrong with us? Do you remember the butt cuts in like the 80s? Um, that boys would have where it parted, right down the middle, like we both have like boy 80s, like butt cuts right now, with these like headphones on? Oh, you kind of do too. Yeah, yeah, she's got a better angle. Yeah, I feel like we're like better, all right, well, hey, we, I want to get a picture really fast, um, before we head off and actually let me just close up this podcast. And then also, we got off track. Thank you so much, vicki, for you know, being open, vulnerable, being willing to just tell us your story, and we can't wait for you to come again and fill us in on, you know, the thing that we can't talk about.
Speaker 3:Yeah, next time maybe it'll be in person, I'll be right there with you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, let's do it, I would love it. Okay, thank you.
