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Farm to Table: Inside Sanger's Downtown Farmers Market
Ever wondered what truly makes a farmers market the beating heart of a small town? In our conversation with Amber Whitworth-Spagner, Director of the Sanger Farmers Market, we discover how a simple agricultural marketplace has transformed downtown Sanger into a vibrant community hub where nearly 1,000 visitors now gather on market days.
Amber shares the remarkable journey of relocating the market from its previous location to downtown's beautiful square, creating an atmosphere she describes as "like nothing else." The market has stayed true to its agricultural roots while expanding to feature an impressive variety of local treasures – from dairy, eggs and meats (including bison!) to artisanal crafts, tamales, pasta, cheesecake, and ginger beer. There's something for everyone at this certified Texas farmers market.
The downtown location has been transformative, providing vendors with protection from dust and wind, access to electricity, and improved accessibility. Downtown businesses have embraced the market, reporting increased revenue on market days and supporting its continued growth. Most touching is Amber's revelation that visiting vendors have fallen so in love with Sanger's welcoming community that many are looking to relocate their homes and businesses to the town permanently.
Looking ahead, the market has exciting plans including specialized themed markets, moonlight markets running from 6-10pm, agricultural education events, and potentially a community garden and homesteading classes. The market operates March through November on first and third Saturdays and third Sundays.
Ready to experience this community cornerstone yourself? Visit www.thefarmerswifemarkets.com or follow DS_FarmersMarket on social media for updates. As Amber says, "Come to the farmers market and support your local community. The atmosphere is really great. I feel alive whenever I'm there."
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Welcome to the 266 Express. This is John Noblet with my co-host, donna Green. Donna, who do we have with us today?
Speaker 2:We have Amber Whitworth-Spagner. She's the director of the Farmers Market. That's downtown.
Speaker 1:Welcome Amber.
Speaker 3:Hi, I'm glad to be here. Thanks for joining us Well we're glad to have you.
Speaker 1:Well, let's get right into it. Tell us a little bit about the vision and the goals of the Sanger's Farmers Market.
Speaker 3:Okay, so originally the goal was to help spread our love of agriculture and to help teach people about where their food comes from. It's kind of morphed into something a little bit bigger than that even though my main focus will always just stay on keeping it about agriculture and, honestly, our vision has pretty much just been realized. Downtown Sanger is a beautiful area, and having farmers, ranchers, artisans and small business owners come together in one area to provide for the community, that atmosphere is just like nothing else. Good good, good.
Speaker 2:So on that. So what types of vendors and products can people expect to find at the farmer's market?
Speaker 3:Oh, we've got lots of products, so we've got dairy. There's a dairy vendor that comes out and she provides pasteurized milk and yogurt, and then, in season, she also brings some produce. We have meats, so we've got two meat vendors. They've got beef, lamb, pork, chicken, goat and bison, eggs, produce, baked goods, artisan crafts We've got a bunch of salsa vendors, a tamale vendor, plants, flowers, jams and jellies, and then this year we have a few new vendors like ginger beer, cheesecake and pasta. Oh wow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a lot yeah.
Speaker 1:Wide offering. Yeah Now, it's been a long journey for you guys, and now you're downtown. You just mentioned that. How does moving that market to downtown Sanger on the square? How does that enhance the experience for your vendors now and your shoppers?
Speaker 3:Honestly the atmosphere.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:The atmosphere during the market is just absolutely amazing. I don't know if y'all have gone to it, but you definitely should. The downtown Sanger Square is already one of my favorite places in Sanger because of just how beautiful it is. The Parks and Recreation Department does an amazing job of keeping it all maintained. The vendors already love having it downtown because the location is better. You're not getting assaulted with dust from the gravel down at Stephen Baker Field or chasing a runaway tent from high winds. The highway noise was also pretty bad at our last location. Plus, there's an option for electricity downtown which is able to open up new doors for vendors we may not have been able to host at our previous location. And then some parts of the park are also more accessible to those with disabilities or strollers, so those shoppers are also able to enjoy the market more.
Speaker 1:Good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so what are the operating hours then scheduled for them?
Speaker 3:So we're running from March to November. We do the first and third Saturdays and third Sundays. So Sunday is just once a month market. We do 9 am to 1 pm on Saturdays. Sundays runs from 10 to 2. Starting in July it's 8 am to 12 pm and then Sundays are 9 to 1. And then our moonlight markets are a little bit different. So we're having three. This year it's from 6 pm to 10 pm.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and the moonlight markets are a little different for us too, because they're set up as actual events where there's more street closures and things like that. So it becomes uh, becomes an expanded and enhanced time for the farmer's market, right? Yes, yeah, we're excited about that and they have been wildly successful in the past.
Speaker 3:Yes, I don't think we expected it to be as successful as it was, but it was pretty successful last year good well, you know the farmer's markets, farmers markets.
Speaker 1:there's always been communities that host farmers markets. It's kind of a base service that a lot of communities had, especially in Texas, over the years. There's still a lot of farmers markets in other communities and so there's a lot of opportunities for local artisans and farmers and producers to be involved. How can these farmers, artisans and businesses get involved in the Sanger's farmer's market?
Speaker 3:So you can apply on our website. Our website is wwwthefarmerswifemarketscom, and if you apply on our website, you can also. We run the Valley View and Tioga market as well. So if you apply to Sanger, you also have the opportunity to apply to Valley View and Tioga.
Speaker 2:Wonderful. So what steps are you using to attract diverse and a variety of different vendors, and is there a type of vendor that you currently don't have, that you are, that you maybe would like to have, that you're looking for?
Speaker 3:A cheese vendor. I've been trying to find a cheese vendor everywhere, okay, but probably the biggest thing that I do to kind of get diverse vendors there is research. So if I see that our market is lacking a specific type of product or a vendor, I'll research a business or just kind of people around our area and invite them out. I've done a lot of research on social media platforms. Probably two of our vendors I've actually found off like Facebook marketplace or they were selling their stuff and I saw that they had a business. I'm like, hey, so not even just that, but my friend and I have been to probably a million farmers markets around DFW, just kind of talking to vendors and letting them know about Sanger. I actually reached out to a vendor at the Dallas Farmers Market who does mushrooms. He was at our moonlight market and I reached out to him and he said, yeah, I just actually moved to Sanger, I'd love to come to your farmer's market. So that was actually pretty exciting yeah.
Speaker 3:Um and then. So that same friend that I went to uh all the farmer's markets with she's actually a uh vendor at our farmer's market now, selling pasta.
Speaker 2:Nice.
Speaker 3:It's just been like a what can we do? As like like, what can I do to bring more people here and invite them out? And then my friend has been really helpful with I couldn't get a pasta vendor out here, so she's making it now. She's sold out at this market, and then I've also been trying to find somebody that sold like flour. I haven't been able to sell. Anybody sell flour, so I'm growing it.
Speaker 3:There you go, I'm going to grow. I already have the wheat in the ground and hopefully next year we'll have some flour at the Sanger Farmer's Market.
Speaker 2:That's great.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what you're saying here is right on par with 99% of what everybody does and what small businesses do. Certainly it's relational, building relationships, making those connections. The support from the downtown businesses to helping you work that process with the council to get located downtown showed a tremendous amount of support and partnerships. Can you tell us about some more of those partnerships with the local businesses or organizations that help support the market?
Speaker 3:Yeah. So Vintage Variety they've been a huge help. They've gone to a lot of the city council meetings. Gypsy Cowgirl she's been really supportive. Honestly, a lot of the downtown businesses have like they came out right after Moonlight Market to talk about how great their revenue was right after Moonlight, so they've been a big help. And then we actually had a lot of sponsors this year that helped like monetarily, like donate to the or I shouldn't say donate, but sponsor the market this year to help us. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean that's huge. I mean we can all be honest, right, I mean that's huge, I mean we can all be honest, right. The downtown Sanger area ebbs and flows, but you know for a lot of years it's been kind of dead there's. You know the way the traffic works in downtown. Those peaks have become less and less over the years, you know. I mean you have businesses like Babes that does really well, but they have a very specific set of hours and over time regionally people have known those.
Speaker 1:We've had businesses come and go and those are discussions that I've had with the council and you know I know the chambers had where sometimes it's very difficult to run a business in downtown Sanger specifically, to run a business in downtown Sanger specifically, and so again, that support that was provided to the farmer's market and the support that you guys provide by helping drive that traffic, I mean it's an indication of the type of community we live in. I think and again, it's not always an easy process.
Speaker 1:You know I'm a bureaucrat- so it's not always an easy process and sometimes it takes some time, but we're very pleased that this worked out because everybody benefits.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and so I know we've talked a little bit about this, but explain how the farmer's market supports our local agriculture.
Speaker 3:Okay. So, first and foremost, the market has always been a place for local farmers and ranchers to kind of come together, sell their goods and connect with the community. We also strive just to keep the market as agricultural as possible. But we also every season we bring out the Antique Tractor Club at least twice, and this year they'll be back for both the Harvest Festival and our so Know and Grow Ag Education Market, which that's a special event that we do, that's just dedicated to agricultural education.
Speaker 3:Last year we had an amazing lineup for that market, including the Texas Department of Agriculture came out, denton County Farm Bureau, the AgriLife Extension, and then Honeybees Unlimited. They actually brought like live bees that people could come out and kind of look at them. They weren't like out in the open, they were in a little glass container, but that was pretty cool. Um, and then we also had farm equipment on site so visitors could get a closeup look of inside um this tractor, and then we hosted a seed swap and like an ag scavenger hunt. So it was a great event. Um, we do plan on having another one this year. It's the sono and grow ag education market. So, um, like I said, I try to keep everything really ag focused and related um. I want it to be an actual farmer's market instead of mostly like just crafts, like some other markets do yeah, a lot of people would say farmer's markets for flea markets.
Speaker 3:They're two different things. Oh yeah, or a craft market or a craft market, yeah, there's, I mean, but farmer's markets, I mean there's a specific set of regulations and rules that the state requires you guys to follow to be really tagged as an actual farmer's market. Yeah, and we are a certified farmer's market with the state of Texas.
Speaker 1:So I mean we have to follow those rules, especially being certified with how we are, and you mentioned one of the benefits of being involved in the market here is that you run a couple of other markets and other communities? Are there any other special incentives or benefits for vendors who participate in the farmer's market?
Speaker 3:I think probably the biggest incentive I can offer our vendors is marketing. I do everything in my power to help market these small businesses. Well, I should say everything in my power and within my resources to help make the business successful. I've done Facebook ads. I've put up flyers, yard signs. I've put up stuff on like Nextdoor Facebook events newspaper mentions. Last year we had a billboard outside of Northlake to kind of help advertise our business and overall just advertising. And then last year we did a vendor appreciation dinner. So everybody came out and we had catering and live music. It was a good time.
Speaker 1:But you can't underestimate that right. I mean because you have a group of people that are pulling resources, you know, together and you're right, a small business independently doesn't? You know? Even billboards and things like that are typically out of their reach. I mean that's not an inexpensive endeavor to get a billboard. So that's, I mean, that's huge to be able to provide those types of resources for these businesses. You know, because a lot of these businesses right they are some of them are side hustles, but some of them are.
Speaker 3:That is their principal direction that their business is headed Right yeah.
Speaker 3:I've and like kind of touching on our economy I guess, um, I've had so many vendors like just in discussions, like just talking to them, say they lost their job and so this is now their full-time job is just doing farmer's markets. So it's just really it's a big deal to me to kind of go out and market this farmer's market and make it to where people come out and just exposure as much as we can get so they can be the most successful. And I think honestly, moving downtown has made us more successful as well. I count as much as I can people when they show up. Like the attendance and we had our average was about 250 people. When we were at Stephen Baker Field and it has, let's see our opening day market I counted almost 1000 people.
Speaker 2:That's wonderful. And the marketing I mean again, like you said, a small business. Marketing does cost, but it's a great way to get their name out there. So if they're a part of this, they're getting the advertising as part of whatever the fee is to be in the market. So it's great, that's wonderful.
Speaker 1:Well, and you'll see that right. That traffic increases too. It's 455 and 35 are completed. That traffic increases too. You know it's 455 and 35 are completed. There is a portion of Fifth Street which runs there. That will become a little bit of a bypass for some of those things, because as much as they want to relieve traffic in these areas and they're working hard to do it will push more traffic onto Fifth Street over time as people are looking for alternate routes to get around, because some people just don't like traffic and so if they can find a route that's a little less congested, they're going to take it. So when you're looking at being able to hop around and scoot through downtown, I think for us, we hope that that helps drive our long-term plans for downtown, which is to redevelop that into a walkable economy.
Speaker 2:So you mentioned a couple of your like a seasonal or your themed markets, but can you just tell us a little bit more about what those are, how they're different, what people can expect? Because it is it's more of an event versus a. I mean, it is a market, but it's an event as well, yeah.
Speaker 3:So our first event coming up is actually going to be the first Saturday in April, which is April 5th. We're having a plant sale market just to kind of get people jump-started on their summer gardens. So with that we have a lot of many like plant gardening type vendors that are going to come. So I think I have three compost vendors that are going to come, just like a regular compost, a vermicompost. So vermicompost is like with worms, like worm poop, so he's going to have his worms and his compost and then I think he might be selling compost tea. And then I actually have another vendor coming who sells compost tea. So we have a lot of like additional farmers who are bringing like specific things and then with that I also have I think she does pottery, she's selling like little garden type decorations. So they're super cute.
Speaker 3:They're like little mushrooms and stuff. So she's going to be coming that. So that's our first one. And then plant starters. I've got a lot of farmers who are going to be plant starters for your garden.
Speaker 2:So is that both like vegetables and flowers?
Speaker 3:Yeah, we had a few opening day and so I got some for my garden, but there was cauliflower and cilantro and I also got a little flower pot for my backyard. It's going to be great. I think we have five or six people who are bringing plant starters. We've got our Sow, Know and Grow Ag Education Market. That's going to be May 3rd. We'll have all things agriculture and ag education there, and then some people who will be bringing demonstrations, just like how I mentioned with the bees.
Speaker 2:That's something great for the kids too. So, if people are looking for something to do with the kids, that might be a great day to, because they can expose them to things that you don't. Kids don't see that stuff anymore.
Speaker 3:No, no, and then we'll have three moonlight markets this year. Those dates are going to be June 7th, August 2nd and September 6th. All of those are from 6 to 10 PM and then we're going to attempt to pull off a farm to table dinner. I've been kind of in the talks with like a chef and stuff, so we're going to see how I can, if I can pull that one off. But or we can pull that one off, I don't know if we will, but that's going to be October 4th and then October 18th and October 19th. That is our third annual harvest festival.
Speaker 2:Wow.
Speaker 1:That's a full slate. Yeah, that's a full slate.
Speaker 3:That's a full slate.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a full slate. That's a lot of work In between all of the. Just the regular markets too. Do you have music and stuff at the markets or Okay, yeah. Some entertainment too. Yes, awesome.
Speaker 1:Donna's ears perk up when she hears events, events. Yeah, I'm like, let me tell you what you need to do. Yeah, it's a whole thing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's like we never just have anything. You have to turn everything into an event.
Speaker 1:I like to hear you go. This is what we're doing. That's what we do Because I can go see Donna. Other people do that too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I like when you tell me about the other things John's like. See, John, I told you it needed that, yeah she does.
Speaker 1:So now you know farmers markets, you know again, you have created a community, right, that market is a community. Tell us a little bit how you see, vision-wise, the market contributing more to the overall sense of community here in Sanger.
Speaker 3:So I think overall, sanger is already pretty community-oriented. I've lived here my whole life and I've grown up here and I think that's why I can't really get myself to leave. But everyone is just so nice and wants to do whatever they can to help you succeed. I will say that since starting the market I've talked to so many of our vendors who have told me that they love Sanger and they want to move to Sanger or they're looking for houses to rent or who want to move their business here. I just really think that's saying something when vendors who are coming from other towns feel so at home here that they want to make it permanent.
Speaker 2:That's great yeah. So tell us, organizing a farmer's market is. You know people, when you organize an event, people don't realize all the stuff that goes into that, right? So can you tell us the challenges that you face in organizing and relocating the market and how you've overcome them?
Speaker 3:So a lot of learning how to organize the market came from experience. So before we even started the market, there was a whole lot of stuff that went into that. But I did about a year's worth of research on starting the market, like how to start the market, um, how to run them and what licensing people would need, and recommended spacing for a walking aisle, which is 25 foot, by the way Um, but all of that went out the window. The very first market in 2023, um, because I didn't factor in. Some of the vendors like to show up early to set up and it takes me way longer than 30 minutes to measure out 10 foot vendor spaces for 30 plus people. So, oh, and then there weren't any streetlights outside at Stephen Baker Field and at March in the morning, at 6 30 AM, it's still dark. So whenever I have two dozen people rushing at me to figure out where the heck they're going and it's dark outside, it's just it's a learning experience.
Speaker 3:It's a learning experience, so I kind of like adjusted and learned from a lot of the things over the years and I think that's really something that you kind of I don't know. When running a business that's true for everybody is you can do all the research you want to do, but when it comes to working with other people and just I don't know, experience is really the only it's experience Mike.
Speaker 1:Tyson right, Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face.
Speaker 3:So we all pulled it off together and managed to make the first market a great market regardless, which is kind of what happened when we started to discuss relocating. Everyone brought their ideas to the table and put it all into play. Lots of people supported the move by attending city council meetings to discuss why we felt it was a good idea to move, and we all stuck to it. It truly would not have been possible without our market family and the community's support. So if I were to have two words for how I and our market family have overcome challenges, it would probably be persistence and community.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Wonderful yeah.
Speaker 1:So long term. What are some more of your long term goals and your vision for the farmer's market in the future? Some more of your long-term goals and your vision for the farmer's market in the future.
Speaker 3:I think in the future I'd like to implement more classes in like homesteading and self-sufficiency. We tried to do that last year, but I just think overall the market wasn't really ready for it. So, like sourdough, I really want to do a class on like learn to drive a tractor or chicken processing, so stuff like that. We've discussed also possibly opening up a community garden and having somewhere that people can go and grow their own food, if that wasn't an option for them.
Speaker 1:So maybe like people who live in apartments or that kind of thing and want to grow their own food but wouldn't be able to.
Speaker 3:We literally had a community garden discussion this week, just the other week. Really, oh yeah, absolutely. I really think that would be a great addition to Sanger. Yeah.
Speaker 1:That is, timing is incredible.
Speaker 3:You'd be great for that, yeah, honestly like I've discussed with some of our vendors, because I mean we've got vendors that are like master gardeners and um, who I mean, it would just, it would be good yeah they can be that con point of contact for people who just hey, why isn't my plant growing?
Speaker 1:yeah, well, if you're, if you're curious about interest we we have interest in that absolutely have that conversation.
Speaker 3:Sorry to interrupt you should we should sit down with john and have a discussion about that.
Speaker 2:Let's do it. Let me, um, let me ask you this little off topic but these classes that you offer, are they one-offs, are they part of the market? How does that work? You know, because if I'm shopping and there's a class going on, I'm trying to figure out how it works, because I actually have some ideas for you. But I just wonder how that works for the person doing the class itself. The class.
Speaker 3:So last year how we did it, we I got with some of our vendors so we tried to do a sourdough class but that kind of fell through. So somebody who did sourdough. I reached out to her I'm like, hey, do you want to do a class? And she was like, yeah, let's do it. And then we had to charge for it and it was kind of an off market season or, I'm sorry, an off market day. We had it. We were gonna have it in the morning. So the sourdough. And then last year I tried to get the people that brought the bees to do like a beekeeping class. But she ended up doing like a beeswax, like candle making or something. It was just an off-market day. Then the market advertised it. We did it as a fundraiser to help raise money for the market. Where do you host these things? The sourdough class was going to be at the First Baptist Church. Like I said, that kind of fell through. Then the other one was in Valley View. It was at an RV park.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:One of the RV park in Valley View and then there wasn't really much interest for the other ones. It just kind of fell through. So I just don't think that we were where we needed to be to make those classes work. But I think we're getting there Good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, again part of the process, right? You're learning some of these things along the way. But when they happen, they'll be fabulous.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they'll be fabulous Because you've made that journey, that's great. I think there's a lot of interest in self-sufficiency and people are getting more into that, and being like know where your food comes from, type of thing. So I think it would be beneficial.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's you know there's talks about all the time about homesteading classes and things like that, because, yeah, even where I'm at, you know about every fourth neighbor has chickens, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, those are like gold.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was going to say thank goodness they have chickens, you know but I mean you're right.
Speaker 1:But I mean you're right. I mean it seems like there is a portion of us really, that groups of people that are kind of getting back to basics, you know, because we have much more information than we've ever had.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We went through a weird period of time 2020 and 21. And so there's been you know there's been a dynamic shift in a lot of attitudes, polarizing at times, but it has put an emphasis back on what you're saying. Hey, what are what? What are the things that we can do to be self-sustainable? And what are the things that we can do that provide um, provide for our family, that that we know where it's coming from you know the foods, the breads, the, you know whatever it is like a pesticide, yeah what what is it?
Speaker 1:what is it and where is it coming from, and how can I contribute to that? For for my health, the health of my family and the health of my community, right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I also think that the classes would be kind of a good thing, like maybe somebody's interested in raising chickens but they don't really know where to start, or like processing chickens or whatever. And you go to this class and you're like, oh, I don't think this is for me, because I went to a processing chicken class with this and that farmstead. She hosted one maybe a few years ago. She was a vendor at our market. I don't.
Speaker 2:Yeah, not for you. I could not. That's not for me either.
Speaker 3:In my head I can do this. And then I watched it and I'm just like I can't. No, that's really sad.
Speaker 2:I can't do that, so, amber, tell us where can people find out more information? Websites social.
Speaker 3:So we have a few social media accounts. We have Facebook, instagram, tiktok and YouTube, and then, of course, we have our websites, so you can find the most information, like market cancellations and that kind of thing, on our Facebook and on our website and what's your handle for Facebook and TikTok?
Speaker 2:So it's DS underscore farmer's market. Okay, we may need to. I may need to look at this and we will post it.
Speaker 3:So I think it's DS underscore Farmers Market and then Downtown Sanger Farmers Market for Facebook and then our website is wwwthefarmerswifemarketscom. You can sign up for our email, like our newsletter, and I'll send out like updates through our newsletter for Sanger Valley View and Tioga.
Speaker 2:Yeah, if you want to send me that link, we'll include it in the video. Okay, so that people can either scan a QR code or they'll have at least the website so they can access that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Okay, and if they can't find you there you've given the dates they can find you downtown, right At the market for sure, yeah, so show up right.
Speaker 3:Yes, please come, please come, for sure.
Speaker 1:Amber, thank you for coming in yeah thanks for having me.
Speaker 2:It's been a pleasure.
Speaker 1:Is there any bit of wisdom that you want to leave for the community?
Speaker 3:Not necessarily Come to the farmer's market and support your local community. It's, honestly, a great time. It's a beautiful atmosphere. The atmosphere is really great. I feel alive whenever I'm there. It's just got the beautiful buildings around and the community is just out supporting their neighbors. Just come out and see it, if you haven't already.
Speaker 2:An experience? Yeah, it is.
Speaker 1:And it is a better location. Yeah, you know. I'm sure you're very grateful for the time at Stephen Baker Field. But, welcome to downtown. We're glad you're downtown finally.
Speaker 3:For sure yes.
Speaker 1:Well, you've been listening to the 266 Express. I'm John Noblet, I'm Donna Green. Thanks for listening to what's Going On in our small little North Texas town.